People in the comment section are forgetting that this was several generations ago. I had my first child in 1971, and even then, most infant care books reccomended starting solid foods (infant cereal) as early as two weeks. Yep. Two weeks, and we were encouraged to get as much in them as possible. Luckily, my young husband and I were very poor. I breast fed almost entirely and when we started solids, it was cheap cream of wheat at about a month of age. Another thing stressed, was to have baby on a rigid schedule. I remember being admonished by my aunt for picking her up to feed her when she was crying because it 'wasn't her feeding time'. Yes, my loves...it was a different era indeed ;-)
@@theskyisfallingtom I couldn’t agree with you more! Ignorant people often don’t have intelligence or understanding. That is a typical response on his part
@@theskyisfallingtom Several is a minimum property of 3 you daft snowflake. Mind you to stick up for someone who needs it, and to stop making yourself look ridiculous to anyone with a functioning cortex.
@@GotoworkkkI’m sure it was. It’s just sad to see. And as I imagine it was an observational study, there was no education provided to make these mothers aware.
The moms are all yucky except first one. But.... People are screwed up. Who knows what the rest of the moms life was like. Hopefully they got help. To just monitor something as serious as raising a child would be crazy.
I can't believe how they're shoveling solid food into a tiny baby. Obviously these mothers couldn't read body language. I feel bad for those babies. Yes, I know, they are probably just fine but still. Now I wonder how many ended up being overweight throughout their lives. Force feeding even after they're full...
Most likely these women were 1st time experienced mothers with no guidance. My 1st son suffered Colicky made me nuts clueless until afterwards. New mothers need more support of efficient skills how to nurture.
No it's that there's no bond with the baby if you don't breastfeed. Plus lower IQ. It's easier to tell when your body is also running out of food when to stop, plus you can just shove a tit on their face over and over, you'll smother them. It forces you to be calm and collected when feeding, and disables you from fidgeting so much with the baby. Bottle fed babies are products of failed mothers.
Yeah it was all a bit strange wasnt it i wonder if they might or should have told each one what was wrong i felt sorry for the babys it definitely opens your eyes im glad to say I was mother number 1 lol in feeding my 2 boys thankfully for them but its intresting what others do I felt terrible for the babies omg some of the phrases used were strange indeed
@@LJBSullivan Not in those times. Many mothers used to roll the babies in a sheet so they could not move. It was thought that that would calm the baby down. Oft times mothers would not bother to unroll the baby at feeding time.
@@tracyhudson1674 I feel the same as you, and as we know now, feeding your infant has to be one of the easiest parts of being a parent. It makes me wonder how these mothers behaved as their children grew and the parenting became more and more challenging.
This was borderline unbearable to watch. And the coveted nearly aggressive burping! Sheesh! My Gran told me as an overwhelmed,nervous teen mother to simply be loving,tender,listen,observe and allow my baby to lead ME. Great advice which truly helped me navigate the first year.Daughter turned out perfectly fine,accomplished,stable
Beautiful. Your Gran is the example of why we should listen to and support the mother's wisdom and Gran wisdom. Never should have listened to men in medicine, religion, and psychology.
@@TheKrispyfort They were told to not breastfeed and feed formula milk, which by then was dried powder cows milk ( that is why babys had digestive problems because not realy adaptive formula milk like nowadays.) So it was a kind of propaganda. Which I called "propagaded"..
Type 4 Mothers seem to be straight up narcissists . All about them and how they are perceived as well as having no empathy for their child. The last woman telling the infant he would get no food unless he burped was maddening. Forcing solids was a thing back then, but the lack of recognition that the baby wanted the bottle more than anything was disturbing. Type 5, detached parents, are proof that child-rearing classes should be mandatory and/or that not everyone should have children.
Bernita Centeno: about BPD, is something female daughters/scapegoats of narcissistic mothers get, bcs a narcissist don't care about others and are without empathy, a new born can't get the care they need, a person with borderline are empty and fragmented inside, an psychologist said they are distroyed. Ppl with bpd change moods many times an hour, get easy angry, a daughter of a mother with the disorder, wrote a book called: walking on eggshell. Eating disorders are connected to bpd, it is the disorder where most ppl comitt sueside. A lot of them end up with a narcissistic partner. At RUclips Dr Romano and Dr Rosenberg and other psychologists have videos about it.
I agree with you. Some are up tight and tense as hell. They need to chill out, have fun with your baby. Don't ever wake a baby, and for God's sake if the kid isn't hungry don't force food.
I thought that was crazy too! Wait til the baby cuts some teeth! The digestive system will be more ready to receive those solids (about 6-9 month of age-ish). I have seen the torment of babies who had to pass stool when fed solids too soon. So sad to see them cry because of it.😔
Proud Indian Citizen That was a common practice back then, and it was even recommended by medical professionals. Now we know otherwise, so it looks shocking to us, but for them it was just a normal part of feeding your baby. They did what they could with the information that was available to them at the time. Not ideal or recommend by today’s standards, but back then it was all they knew.
Well back then they were pushing moms to not breast feed and they made it seem gross and primitive. It’s absolutely disgusting to give babies solids that early and these semi neglected poor babies have grown up to be...
Oh my god. That mother who doesn’t wanna turn into her own who beat her... already had as soon as she started threatening a baby and calling him naughty. That’s sick.
She also looked like she derived pleasure when she would startle him when he would almost fall asleep. Gave her some power that she didn’t have when she was little
Nvr Mnd I’m sorry. It’s a shame you had to endure that and you can’t enjoy the part of getting be a mom and have your own, but at least you know you are breaking that vicious cycle.
When the mom talks about how she wants to do the study so she doesnt react the same way her mom did (beat her)......my mind was spinning!!! Take the baby away!!! It is pretty safe to assume.......she was just like her mom.
Saudade73 They didn’t intentionally separate babies from their mothers for studies. That was done with baby monkeys, though. The studies that were done recorded mothers who were involuntarily separated due to events in their own lives, many from incarceration. In one study, they even went out of the country to a home for babies whose mothers had to be away from them.
When we got past type 3 I was actually getting anxious that we were going to journey on for more 😳😬 I want to find a time machine so I can rescue these poor infants. I think I have second hand ptsd
I don’t get it. How were these women raised that they act and feel this way? My kids are adults and I Still feel like I just want to hug and take loving care of them. Their distress still makes me feel bad and I want to fix it. I don’t fix it, but I want to. 🥰
I would yawn all the time feeding my baby, it didn't mean I was unreceptive or uncaring, it meant I was tired. And I always, and still do, play with his ears and hair while he feeds to sleep, it was soothing to both of us. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong or how else I could do things.
This mothers do not play with a lock of babys hair peacefully and quiet or touches the ear in a smooth way but interfere and stimulate and manipulate against all possible signs the baby could possibly give - that is impingement not carress.
The mother that did those things was unreceptive and detached. She never spoke to the baby or made eye contact. The only way she touched the baby was to inspect it never to provide affection or connection. Her facial expression was also uninterested or a blank stare the whole feeding. Watch her part then go back to the first 3 mothers & it’s night and day.
@@something4870 yeah well, some of them (and people today) really need to be thrown out into space! (I'm assuming that what you meant?? Your "sentence" really, didn't make much sense...) ✌️😂
Funny thing is all these babies in that generation were far more mentally and emotionally healthy than the spoiled over parented brats today. Attachment parenting like you support has been an abysmal failure for both mother's and children
My mother would have been a 5. No interaction. I was left to cry. She was told to let me self sooth ALWAYS. She gave no interaction to me or my siblings.
She could have learned that from her own mother, we get to be what our mothers made us. Feel sorry for you, I f you pray to God, you will find self love, I can learn you how to pray, if you want.
I think unfortunately that's the guidance they got. There were books around teaching parents how to feed a baby with minimal body contact. And of course the still famous Ferber book.
Yes, let's face it, I don't think any of us know what the helll we're doing! Just think about what it involves being pregnant, giving birth and raising a child. It's crazy! The miracle of life is bloody hard work😂
Interesting. I was a very natural mother; breast fed both babies for 9 months; they fed as long as they needed to and this relaxed them (and me). We would usually fall asleep together, my baby nursing for as long as it took. They never took a pacifier. They never sucked their thumbs. They both grew up to be stable, educated adults. Feeding schedules were unheard of-- - if they needed to nurse, they did, peacefully and uninterrupted.
Don’t get me wrong: I am totally for breastfeeding for a variety of reasons we all know; I breastfed my first son (up to 6 months, I could bear no more) and am breastfeeding my second as well. Both of them have grown very well, healthy and affectionate. Nonetheless, I never could get a joyful experience from any episode of feeding, rather than a burden, an inavoidable deed that keeps me away from all the other activities I would like to do, even for hours. With a 3-year old very very jealous first son, who does not accept the presence of a newborn at least for now, it is even harder - thankfully I have more aid from my husband and family this time, orherwise I don’t really know how I would manage it all. I guess I am a low empathy mother.. but I don’t think I’m the worst 😬
@@Clairs88 Why compare yourself with the worst? It's outstanding that you breast feed. It's a time to slow down and love. My babies would fall asleep at my breast, and I would too. It can be so relaxing.
I am a preschool teacher and this makes me so sad. I also give workshops to parents to help the parents be more interactive with their child. After one of my workshops a mother came up to me crying and told me this in Spanish thank you teacher I am glad I took this workshop. I have 3 children and I would have wished I would had this workshop when my other 2 children were young. I did not know that you needed to talk to babies when feeding them, washing them and even changing their diapers. I never talked to my children when they were babies because I thought they would not understand me if I did. I felt so bad and I told her that I was glad she was fixing her mistake with her last baby boy. I had her middle child in my class he was very quiet and did not say much. After showing her how to interact with her toddler and her baby they all had a better relationship. I am glad I got to help her out and this chain would stop with her. I hope this babies on this video turned out good God bless 🙏 them!!!
Alicia Garcia Developmental Early Child Development Programs AND their TEACHERS are worth there weight in GOLD. I'm still in touch with 3 preschool teachers and my sons are 30 and 27. One lives in Europe. :)
I feel that all these mothers truly meant the best for their babies but just didn’t know how to do so correctly, they could’ve also been struggling with insecurities and pressure so it’s best not to be so hurtful/judging :(
Also maybe they are still on postpartum depression, financial crisis or many factors it takes a village to care for a child actually also maybe the mother is expected to take care her house choirs, mother in law, father in law, own parents and her husband altogether taking care with her infant😢
"With a kiss to remind him of her feelings for him she tells him he should be ashamed of himself". That was absolutely heartbreaking!! She later said the happiest time of his day was when he's being fed. What does that say about how miserable he is the rest of the time if this is considered "happy"?! What is the most concerning about this is these woman are aware they are being studied on their feeding. If they are this callous about it in front of people, how horrible must it be at home, in private?
I was force fed from birth until I went to school!! I was actually surprised to find out that food can actually be pleasurable when I got older. the concept was completely foreign to me!!
Sally, it's almost as if these mother's like " OVER" Burping them because they were angry that the baby wouldn't eat it's own body weight in cereal, bananas, carrot's, a Thanksgiving turkey, Mac & cheese, a can of Spam, a bottle of beer, a quick smoke and one more bottle. These Evil Mom's need a swift kick in the ass!!!?
It must be very difficult for the researchers to watch and film the neurotic mothers without intervening. It's no wonder the kids have psychological problems as they develop. Parental psychological should perhaps be mandated.
We have to remember that for all the foibles and inadequacies seen here, these mothers volunteered for this project because they love their babies and want to do what’s best for them, ultimately. Based on the ending, it appears the vast majority were receptive to support and guidance. That’s a really big deal, because it is extremely difficult for a mother to ask for help, to admit that there are some things she might need to change or improve. As far as she knew, she was opening herself up to criticism and rebuke. So, kudos to these moms.
Yeah she was literally abused by her mom, and was trying her hardest to not continue the cycle. She literally had no idea how to feed and care for the baby, because she'd never seen it properly modeled.
She was so anxious to do a good job that she overdid it and he was exhausted and confused. She didn't even give him a moment to settle in for any activity, including rest, before jumping to some sort of startling action.
You have to remember that most mothers had to figure all of this "baby thing" out for themselves. Husband's went out and worked, and when he came home dinner was expected on time, a very clean tidy home, clothes clean and pressed. The judgement from society and demands from the husband were relentless. Often times babies were simply not "fun."
excellent comment , i'd have to ponder the timeline , but modernity and the industrial revolution , gradually but relentlessly destroyed the village and then the extended family , and now even the nuclear family , destroying the support networks that historically women thrived within
This has helped me so much! I have a month old daughter, not only am I a new mom I have never taken care of a baby before. I have learned to get rid of all distractions when I feed her, let her lead, and give eye contact.
Watching those babies push the bottles out of the way and seeing the moms keep forcing it literally made my heart rate increase. I jusr had a baby and i cant imagine not being in tune and responsive to her. I hope these moms and babies got into a better rhythm with each other 💔
First time I've watched one of these early childhood development documentaries that I actually thought it was useful. I would like to share this video with all new moms so they can understand the impact that the closeness that they could share with their babies at feeding time could have on the rest of their children's lives. Lack of emotional involvement from mom seems to be the stem of a lot of negative traits.
My mother had no problem telling me how much she hadn’t enjoyed taking care of me from the day I was brought home until the day I moved out after my high school graduation. She was cold, cruel with her words, and distant, thus we were never able to connect on any level throughout her lifetime. When I became a mother my only priority was my children, determined to do my best and love them dearly through positive reinforcement, kindness, empathy and endless love...thankfully my parenting style has given humanity well rounded, creative, and amazing people in the communities they now raise their own families in.
I'm sharing this with my daughter, and my niece. Both of which will be giving birth this winter. Not as a "how to"... just more of a "watch these interactions"... and hope they learn from these women and some of those poor babies.
Very interesting & educational to watch; should be shown to all new moms. It’s amazing how babies so young can tell/show you what they want & don’t want. Agree, let your baby guide you. I raised a baby in the early ‘60s & NO solids were given this early, only milk. This video surely shows what NOT to do. I felt sorry for most of these babies.
I got chastised for not feeding my baby solids 😅 Near exclusively breastfed for 12 months, then mixed for six. Only weaned after his Nanna took him for a couple of months to allow me to finish my final exams for my Bachelor degree, and lack of feeding led to drying up during the time despite pumping. My plan had been to continue partial breastfeeding up to 36months. The other two self-weaned at eight months 😢 when they discovered solids to be more satisfying.
Dude OMG type 3 mother's really made me mad. Then the next ones made me feel just sick wow hard to watch and believe how crazy these women are I am truly shocked
my mom and her friends from the old country were THE most neurotic and dare I say abusive mothers!! bad advice to new moms was their specialty!! one of them insisted that her children were completely toilet trained before 6 months of age which prompted the other more competitive ones to say the exact same thing!! another one used to advise the other moms to put all of the child's food in a blender because of a child's inability to fully digest food until they are much older!! I shall NEVER forget her poor 5 year old daughter being force-fed mushed peas and then mushed cheesecake for dessert. when I had my own child, my mom's best friend told me that if I wanted my child to quit wearing diapers (he was 2!!) I should hold a lit match close enough to his bum so he could feel the burning sensation and cease peeing/pooing himself!! PURE RIDICULOUSNESS!! their relationship with food was really warped as they had all gone through severe poverty in their country of origin and had to go hungry countless times!! but still...……….
A lot of these maladaptive feeding situations were due to the "Dr. is god" thinking of the time, the forcing of unneeded formula feedimg and the much too early introduction of solid food. ( solid food should never be given before the 6-month Mark. Baby should be able to sit alone, have a pincer grasp, And should be able to move food from the front to the back of the mouth and swallow without sucking. Offering or forcing solids before the baby is ready is damaging to the GI system and can be damaging to the mother-infant relationship.) I'm an IBCLC lactation consultant and I see when mothers think their babies doctors ideas and control carry more weight than a mother's instincts to hold, breastfeed and allow infants to feed uninterupted, plus encouragement to trust thier own instincts and *stop worrying so much about burping* will help better mother-infant attachment. I try to be tolerant, but the mother who said she didn't breastfeed bc it would make the baby "too deoendent" on her almost made my cry. Babies and toddlers are supposed to depend on their mothers. Independence comes from having a solid, trusting relationship with the mother. Back in the 40s, 50s ,60s ,70s and even the 80s, and even sometimes in this day some doctors, although they don't know the babies or mothers at all, try to control everything the mother does. The 50s and 60s were the height of homemade formula,( the recipes of which would often be changed weekly by the pediatrician, who needed control at all costs) force-feeding, too early solids, unnecessary formula, and that ridiculous reliance on repetitive burping. It's amazing that those of us born in the 1960s survived! Before the advent off almost universal formula feeding Pediatrics an was almost unheard of specialty. The specialty of pediatric medicine only came about when some overly controlling Physicians realized that they could control their patients and see those patients frequently making a patient's rely on them by changing the formula recipe every week or more frequently than that. Before the advent of the idea that chemically filled, man-made milk-like substance were superior to human milk and the process that a mother makes herself via breastfeeding babies are only seen a small number of times the first year to check weight and development. When it was realized that making Pediatrics a medical specialty could result in seeing a patient two or three times or more a month, bringing in a great deal of money, using the Advent of formula feeding as a method of control and income Pediatrics exploded Seeing as the specialty, especially when run by men who never parented, divorced women from their instincts, it has become a necessary specialty. Family Practice physicians often nicely filled the bill before hone made formula, which needed constant changing and tweaking by the new speciality. Now it has become a neccesary specialty. Watch how the introduction of more drugs and more and more "neccesary pracautions" are given for younger and younger children makes sure frequent visits occur, now that more women are bresstfeeding and home made formula is, thankfully, rarely used.( I have no problem with good, well trained pediatricians. However, I am simply delineating how the field became specialized and how it was made necessary by middle-class and upper-middle-class people who wanted to be modern by divorcing themselves from the intimacy and necessary learning curve of breastfeeding and the reliance on unnecessary early solid food feeding and often unnecessary formula feeding..) Breastfeeding failure was rarely heard of before the advent of powdered and canned infant food. Although, in very rare situations formula milk maybe occasionally necessary, Pediatrics relied on formula to make sure that they would be visited by the infant patient and their mother very frequently for many decades, and to some extent does today. Today, we must remember that pediatricians are only experts of illness and injury in infants and children. They are not Child Development Specialists, they are not Feeding Specialists, and the vast majority of Pediatricians have not been trained properly in lactation and breastfeeding. I have a number of clients who are Physicians and the question they ask me repeatedly is "Why didn't they teach me anything about lactation and breastfeeding in medical school?" I don't know how to answer them. I stick to my specialty, I don't try to treat illness or disease in infants, pediatricians need to do the same thing. Stick to their specialty: treating disease and injury in infants and children. if Medical School spent more time on teaching Child Development, as they did in the past, and spent at least two semesters on lactation and breastfeeding, we'd have fewer problems with these things today. But, I don't see that happening. Sorry for the text wall. That video really triggered me.
LCMary62 thank you so much for this post. I wish I could share it everywhere. I always say all of this. The blind worship of doctors, especially pediatricians, is scary.
My now 34 yr old beautiful daughter started having a nighttime snack of thinned out rice cereal and did wonderful at 1 mos.. She loved it with creamed apricots. I loved having a bedtime snack so that was hers. Just love your babies, no one is perfect, you'll hear a 1,000 different things and with our population people are doing just fine.
I read a book where was described that standard procedure during labour was to use chloroform and cut unconscious mum to be and take the baby out with forceps!!! 60's and 70's was look like that. After delivery baby was often taken away from mother for 24 hours and feed with formula even against mother wishes! That was standard procedure for 'mother and baby good'. After reading this in book ''food of Love'' i decided on home pool birth without any doctors interference. Thanks hospitals you will never see me during labour.
@@pixie1310 the Pincher Grasp or Grip is part of the neurological development of the baby. The ability to grasp a small bit of food with the thumb and forefinger is correlated with the development of the GI system's ability to handle solid food. In other words, nature knew what it was doing. If a baby can't pick up a small piece of food between forefinger and thumb to bring it to the mouth, they simply aren't ready for solids. Spoonfeeding is not the milestone for solids, proper manual dexterity is, as it it develops in correlation with GI readiness for solid food.
These mother needed guidance instead of criticism.. Back then mothers had big families, and babies were placed in their pram or sofa with a bottle in its mouth with a towel or blanket to hold it in place, and the babies only got held when the mothers were burping the babies.. They had other small kids to look after.. They did of course show love, and hugged their babies just not at feeding time.. Feeding was a long process, and with other babies, and toddler there just wasn't time.. The baby was fed as I described above, or by the older siblings.. As most families back then had 6 or more kids.. My mother was the oldest of a family of 9, and most of the time feeding the youngest baby was my mother's job.. All my aunties, and uncles were happy, funny, children, and where the same as adults.. With great stories of childhood, memories .. They all adored my grandmother (their mother ). I remember my grans house as fun and lots of love...
I understand what you're trying to say..nonetheless, these mothers were clueless and mothers with soooo many children..the children do suffer in 1 way or another! As children or teens or adults..and father's who show little affection..it's the same!
@@jameswells-uk6qu I agree with you.. My comment was based on stories my mother told.. You're right, and make a good point... Like everything else there are many difference of opinions, and everyone has a diffrerent story or opinion... Thank you for replying.. Xx
I remember pics of my mother feeding my premature sister cereal in the hospital. Formula was homemade and juices were given. It’s amazing we all lived.
A lot of these mothers may be suffering from postpartum depression. Also, a lot of them are probably forcing food and bottles because they’re made to seem neglectful if they’re baby isn’t a perfect weight. Not to mention the fact doctors told mothers that they have to feed newborns food and formula, which could upset their stomach badly. Some people really don’t understand how bad ppd can be. You feel lost, confused, suicidal, no love, resentment, no connection. I couldn’t even remember my full name or birthday when I was asked at the doctors. These women need help, love and guidance. How are people not understanding this?
My mom had her first child at home, in 1936. Not unusual for the time. She nursed her baby etc fine, as she had experience of childcare, as one of 12 children. In 1943, she had my oldest brother in hospital and she had to ask for my brother to be brought to her to be breastfed. All the nurses told her that was old fashioned, unsanitary (!) Etc. Really tried to dissuade her. Didn't work. She nursed all of us. Like the #1 mom's depicted here. She really was a #1 mom in all ways
I also heard of that generation being discouraged from breastfeeding and that it was widely considered gross. It was just something people just didn't do. My thinking is formula companies planted that narrative.
@@Blessed_Sound a lot of women do not recognize their trauma, or that their traumatized behavior is traumatizing the child. as you hear, neither did these healthcare professionals, they allowed it to continue in order to see the result after one year. These mothers are experiencing medical neglect and many still do today. They experience abuse from family or their partner and are expected to carry on like none of it happened or to recognize that they are behaving poorly as a result. I blame the culture.
@@hello7thgod So i have a question, and please dont take this has me trying to start a confrontation. So if a man rapes a child (and we know or find out the man has been raped when he was younger), do we lock up the guy who raped the child or the rapist who raped the man when he was younger?
I know a type IV mother personally. This is exactly how she treated her sons. Both are adults now. Both narcissists! One of them a malignant narcissist. Well done, great job! 🤦♀
Yes it would be fascinating and I would assume highly disturbing. I could tell you from my experience I suspect my mother was either type 3 or 4, because she was not empathetic and only cared for me if it met her own wants and needs. Now as an adult I have zero love or attachment towards my mother. It is very difficult for me to form close relationships with anyone. I have a hard time with trust. I learned at a young age that the only way I could cope was to dissociate from my emotions due to my needs being neglected, and I still struggle with disassociation. I have been going to therapy for over a decade, so that definitely helps, but I still resent the fact that I was not given the love and attention all children needed, and how my story isn’t uncommon. Some people do not deserve children.
@@Dania.q thank you for your deep sharing.. I’m so sorry to hear that you had a tough childhood. But at least you now acknowledge where your psychological sufferers come from. And they are not from you but from your mother.. I really pray that you soon overcome those difficulties as you shouldn’t be the victim of your own mother but it’s her who has to pay off for the way she treated you.. as for now and for good, she will never truly understand and feel how sweet, how dear it is a smile a hug and a invincible connection and love that a child can give to his mother whom he love truly...
It's unbelievable to sit and watch someone literally torture they're babies. Every new mother I feel should watch this film it freaked me out but also gave brilliant points.
I will always remember putting peas on my oldest son's high chair tray. He would squish each of them with his finger before eating them. He talked early. He called the peas "little green army helmets".
It's strange I would have assumed mothers had more teaching back then, due to closer multigenerational relationship. I'm glad we have more access to information for young mother now
@Denis Frampton that is such a lie. I can’t imagine why you would even think that. There was not enough support and education. And how many of these moms were maybe not pregnant by choice? Maybe they were not ready for this.
@@vanessasimmons1175 The people who said that don't know what they're talking about. Answering to a baby's needs consistently is so important for their development!
@The mysterious Miss X That's gold. Got to love advice from someone who has never had a child. BTW there is nothing mysterious about you, none can go to your channel and see what kind of lunatic you are. Love that for you 😀
This was so stressful to watch... If I saw something like this in public I'm not sure how I would respond. Also, the first group of mothers made me feel such sweet feelings that I was not prepared for how upsetting the rest of it became.
I agree. I feel so sorry for most of these babies. Where did these women learn these things? It was just awful watching these tiny babies suffering through this!
I think I would have a hard time not giving some friendly advice if I actually saw this in front of me. These are the moms who complain that the baby is always fussy yet have no clue that they are making them that way.
Hahaha, those of you saying where did these women learn these things- such inept care for an infant- you must be from middle-class Men ship or above. Come down here to poverty land and you will see plenty of this. In 2023, in 1973, in 1943..... Yeah, it's obvious you've never spent considerable time hanging out with the poor, especially not hanging out with the ultra poor. Been homeless for the last 15 years. Been a low-wage worker for 20 years before that & lived in the most inexpensive of areas in order to make due. I've seen it all. The failure of these women to understand the needs of their infants is not uncommon in the lowest of economic strata
I nursed my girls till almost 2 years old. I loved every moment and so did they. I read that a newborns vision is the exact distance from moms boob to her eyes. Beautiful. God is good. ❤️✝️❤️
I was bottle-fed and I bottle fed my baby. Guess what? Super healthy and super bonded! Feeding a baby a bottle is also the same distance to her eyes. And, my sweet baby girl is super bonded to her daddy. XO
@@tired6971 but by giving a bottle you don't have the felling yk? my cousin cried a lot and kept saying how wonderful it was to feel her finally sucking her when she breastfed her daughter for the first time (her daughter had to stay in the hospital for a while because of complications and she only was able to chance to breastfeed her some weeks after her birth because before she had to use a thing that is like a bottle but i forgot the name of it in english)
This reminds me of the practice so popular when I had my first son (1992), of letting babies "cry it out" to go to sleep. It was torture for him and for me. But I was told it was "best" 💔♥️
My mom told me that she was instructed to do this as well when I was a baby, but she just couldn't stand to let me cry. It's crazy how responding to a crying baby is sometimes considered spoiling them.
My first daughter was born overseas, I remember being told, the baby was held for 9 months inside you, they are used to being held. Also, we fed on demand. My husband was a huge supporter. Also, my mother in law told me when she lived in South Africa, she said she rarely heard a baby cry, because someone was always there to hold them.
I loved feeding my baby. When I was breastfeeding, it was our private time to bond and just be together in a warm little space. I can’t imagine a mother thinking it’s a chore, or a bother. :(
Well unfortunately some women don’t like the fact that their bodies will never be the same after child birth and now their breasts are owned by the baby, she feels like it’s not even her body anymore and it’s constantly used by the baby and the dad 😒
I loved feeding my kids, both bottle & breast. It’s hard sometimes sure, but it was a precious bonding moment! It surprises me a lot of these mothers weren’t listening to their cues.
Yes. I loved feeding my infant as well. Not only was it one of the most fulfilling parts of parenting, it was, without a doubt one of the easiest parts of parenting. I shudder to think how some of these mothers behaved as the parenting became more and more challenging.
I know that issues with breastfeeding can greatly impact the emotions and bonding of a feeding. It impacts the way I felt about how I was feeding my child. It didn’t feel like a chore but I felt like a failure. He never latched.
This is absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Although I am uncomfortable watching some of these types, we need to bear in mind that postpartum depression was highly undiagnosed in this era. Depression is obvious in the face of some of these women.
Well. First of all, my profound appreciation for those making this video and those posting it publicly. As a new mom, I have to admit that motherhood is not simple as it’s me who has to take all decisions for the apparently simplest thing like how he should get to sleep, eat...and that gets more compounding when thinking of his future begins from NOW.. Looking at this tiny-harmless creature every time I breastfeed him, I wonder a lot about how life continues, well my life perspectives get broadened .. why such little one just can’t speak to tell his needs but just to cry and cry for every cause.. And I think, it turns out those cries are just enough as mothers just need to respond to those cries and once those cries stop so do the problems..No need for verbal interaction, just acting wholeheartedly to respond to those cries..that’s all.. so finally it turns out that love is the key on which a baby thrives. So for me, motherhood teaches me to become a better version of me as I have to practice Love and Empathy everyday.. Therefore, I think the more Love and Empathy one acknowledges and obtains, the easier for them to practice Motherhood. In other words, before becoming a mother, one should train themselves to become a more well-rounded person in the first place and there would be less babies suffering from their own mothers 🙏🙏
Well said! How is motherhood going for you now? And good old is your little one? I’m a new mother too. My little girl is 2 months old, it is one heck of journey so far.
My mother was/is a vile creature. Zero empathy and not an ounce of maternal instinct. It took me 42 years to gain the courage to walk away from her and my narcissistic, sociopath younger brother. Has been the best 2 years of my life and to anyone who knows the constant feeling of dread and unhappiness of having a hateful mother and doesn’t know how to walk away....just do it. I promise you that you’ll feel so much better and it’ll change your life for the better. Life is too short to suffer at the hands of bad parents and I only wish I’d binned mine sooner. I have 3 kids who are grown and have left home. I used my own childhood experiences to make sure my kids were raised to feel loved and happy. My husband and I have been married for 20 years and I’m now the happiest I’ve ever been.
That poor woman, doing the exact opposite of what will make the baby comfortable, then kind of getting ‘mad’ at the baby, but also wanting to avoid being so angry and abusive because she knows that’s how she was raised. She got treated cold and now she doesn’t realize how cold shes being. The family really is a cycle.
Ahhhh doesn’t this so clearly show that mothers don’t just know what to do but rely on what we’ve seen, experienced, and learned. At that time there was a lot of weird instructions for mothers especially around feeding, adding to the fact that there were social expectations on mothers to be independently able to do it all. I especially feel for the last group of mothers who are clumsily trying so hard!
I lacked emotion and connection with my first but I tried to do my best with what i knew. I can say these moms mean well but will likely feel guilt over time. I bet these woman were amazing grandparents. They probably spoiled their grandbabies and vicariously re raised their own children through their grandchildren as if to do it over and do it right this time.
I can imagine that parenting trends change in a few years and what's being advertised today as hip will be seen as a completely monstrous (say: the cry it out method?)
Maybe because it's a completely natural act, which human have been doing successfully for millions of years. Seven billion plus people...mothers must be doing something right!
In my mother’s group I observed a few mothers who were like this. Very cold, distant, rigid and angry. Surprisingly they all went on to have another baby before the first one was a year old. It was shocking to be honest, they are not motherly whatsoever. I believe they had babies for the wrong reasons. Another point I noticed was their babies were put into childcare before 6 months old
I hate this a lot but I have met people who continue to have children for federal money. It’s gross and evil, and most of the time the children grow up poorly educated with poor emotional skills and end up hating their parents.
I hope they corrected or told them type 3 & 4 & 5 mothers they were wrong. They made me wanted to feed them babies myself! I hope those mothers got some type 1 feeding training and got to see themselves in the video. I bet they were just concerned with being in a video. I feel sorry for those babies. Some of them women shouldn't have them babies PERIOD!!!
@@TVwriter23 doctors had their own opinions, some told wrong statements. As you can see, some mothers were doing good. The others showed signs of frustration and did not enjoy spending time feeding the baby. They acted like it was a chore, whereas the better mother’s enjoyed the time. As you can see the narrator and who ever made that documentary was aware they were feeding the babies wrong, so we hope they did tell them
Some parts of this was hard to watch. I too wonder which my mother was. I was abandoned at 2 1/2 years of age. Alone for 3 days then found. 😢 Was naked, dirty, and hungry. Was beaten frequently. Mostly in the head with a curtain rod. Adopted after abandoned and mentally and sexually abused. Early childhood trauma can have tremendous affects on the baby and it continues throughout adulthood. It affects the child/adult both mentally and physically.
The first years are so important, I feel sorry for you, and have a lot of trauma too, 8 years ago, I start praying to God for cleansing and protection, several times a day and calmness and self love came automaticly. If we pray, we keep dark forces away from our energy field, spiritual warfare is going on. If you want to pray, it ends with: I pray to you, in your son Jesus name, amen. Important to pray before sleep, to keep the enemy away. I wish you the best! 🌹
Good grief, this was only two years before my era of motherhood and I don't recall so much concern about burping! Likewise, feeding solids before about 6-8 months was discouraged. It was shocking to see the tiny ones - 2 weeks! - having pablum rammed into their mouths. The one who kept her baby incessantly awake and flailing made me a nervous wreck!
I know back then solids were fed much sooner than now, but this video was amazing! I had the privilege of being in the hospital for 5 and 4 days respectively when I had my boys, which gave time for the nursing staff to do patient teaching. Now new moms and even the very young teen moms are out the door with no real guidance or understanding of taking care of a babies needs. This was very interesting, but 5000 tried in one feeding sessions to get the baby to burp! Incredible.
I'd be surprised if someone who gets no instructions at all will even consider burping the baby. This rather seems to melike they got too much instruction.
I loved this! The last mother and baby were my favorite. I wish they would have shown more of the other babies at 6 months and a year like the last one
I once worked in a child care centre. I hope people watching this realise that there are far worse infant feeders than any of these women and they get paid to feed babies in child care centres all over the world. I'm 44 years old. I was only 18 years old at the time I worked in this very respectable child care centre and I was horrified! I'm not saying that any of the workers were bad people or that they had bad intentions. But they certainly lacked empathy and I felt that the very aggressive manner of feeding the infants and toddlers was unwarranted. Eg, firmly holding the face of a child that is clearly no longer hungry and forcing food into their mouths even after they've began to cry and are clearly distressed. Add to their lack of empathy, the fact that they don't have any maternal attachment to these babies and they simply don't have the time to be patient, the end result is these poor little children have food shovelled into their faces like it's an Olympic sport. I will never forgot this one little 3yo girl. She was very timid. This one day she didn't want to eat her yoghurt. I think she wasn't feeling well. The centre manager was getting frustrated with her and forcing it into her mouth aggressively. I mentioned that she didn't seem very well today as her eyes looked tired and her cheeks were flushed. I was hoping this might convince my boss to stop assaulting this poor child's face. She paused to look at her, agreed with my observation and then continued force feeding her until she threw up. My boss huffed angrily and said "oh you naughty girl. Now look what you've done!" That little girls eyes have haunted me for 26 years. I quit the next day.
I also used to work as a daycare assistant in my early adulthood and I too felt uneasy about the way the lead teachers and directors would treat the children, especially the children who were shy or struggled to grasp new information.
Most of these mothers have no clue how to feed their baby and disguising feeding babies solids at 6 weeks of age. They only wanted to drink not force feed solids. So sad to see the detached mothers.
Back then that was the thought on feeding babies. Babies were introduced to feeding solids way sooner than now. Now we do it later and are mindful of potential allergies which I don't think they were thinking about back then. The solid food wasn't the mom's fault. They were told to give it by the doctor.
I was told to start them young by our first pediatrician when my milk dried up and we moved to bottles. She said full bellies sleep through the night. She was 2 months old and under weight. I waited until she was six months old, however some will take one doctor at their word and dismiss anything further...
Giving babies solids at that age was normal at that time. This isn't a current documentary so you have to think about what we know now is not what they knew then. I mean the smoked during pregnancy in front of babies and babies sat in car seats in the front seat and there was seat belts
lilblacklamb I did too. I admit though my youngest did get semi solids at about 3weeks. She was ravenous lol. I had two kids and I could only care for her because it was change baby feed baby burp baby change baby feed baby. I also did the absolute WORST OF THE WORST lol and gave her cows milk. I had no milk, I tried but she would have starved to death. So I started on formula and she projectile vomited every single one, so I moved on to goats milk, same thing, so out of frustration I tried good old fashioned cows milk. Vomiting stopped, belly aches stopped and she is a happy health 30 year old with no known allergies to any food, she’s incredibly intelligent, and though she was a roly poly baby she ended up a fitness model for quite awhile. She’s moved on from it now but still has the figure. I think we place to much attention on what we’re told and not enough on what our babies are actually showing us and telling us they need. They’re all different and can’t be stuffed into a cookie cutter mold. Although her pediatrician said that it was definitely unconventional and not the recommended course of action it was apparently what SHE needed and told me to continue unless we saw signs that it wasn’t working.
They said about one of the moms towards the beginning that she burped the baby 600 times! I think the narrator snuck a joke in there, I mean really they counted 600 times, lol! Towards the end they said one mom took two hours to feed baby and patted/burped 5,000 times! This is just nuts!! These poor babies, not all of them but a lot of them.
I'm a early 80's baby...my mother was and is amazing! But there's a picture of me laying in the bed only a month or 2 old, bottle in mouth being propped up with a pillow, eyes closed and my sister (just a year older than me) standing over me, naked wearing a cowboy hat....idk what the hell was going on in that moment but I turned out okay 👌😂
This is so interesting and I am sure still stands the test of time- for better or for worse. The fact that the type often remains the first year is fascinating. It just shows how little we as women learn about the experience- pregnancy onward...
To look "efficient" mothers. Like they "know the right technique" until they prove their point. I know people who still do that. They are mostly old ladies😥😫 kids wishes NEVER mattered.. . one of the kids even commited suicide as a grown up
It irked me how that one mom blamed her baby's distress on colic. How could she not see that it was really due to her manhandling him?! 🤦🏻♀️ Anyone of any age would be upset if force-fed and handled so roughly!
In those days, doctors didn’t know what post partum depression in new mothers was. Instead of putting these mothers into 5 categories regarding empathy towards their babies, why didn’t they say anything about what the mother was going through during that time? These old films make too much judgment on these new mothers, yet we can’t hear the mothers talking at all, just a man behind a blacked out window talking about them. Children are a product of heredity and environment and some may have unknown mental or physical disorders that aren’t diagnosed yet and it makes the mother look bad if the baby acts indifferent.
Wauuu I work in child care and I had no idea that how we feed a baby affects in his or her behavior. Important information but we don't know much of it.
The man narrating though, was right on point and 💯 %. I loved his style, anyway someone conducting this I’m sure gave these moms some help, whether it helped them is unknown. When I was a young mom i know I wasn’t perfect but love was always number one!! God bless all of us and may we always lend a loving hand
People in the comment section are forgetting that this was several generations ago. I had my first child in 1971, and even then, most infant care books reccomended starting solid foods (infant cereal) as early as two weeks. Yep. Two weeks, and we were encouraged to get as much in them as possible. Luckily, my young husband and I were very poor. I breast fed almost entirely and when we started solids, it was cheap cream of wheat at about a month of age. Another thing stressed, was to have baby on a rigid schedule. I remember being admonished by my aunt for picking her up to feed her when she was crying because it 'wasn't her feeding time'. Yes, my loves...it was a different era indeed ;-)
"Several generations"? Grandma, please. Quit the crack pipe. A single generation, maybe 2.
@@nathanielovaughn2145 Grandma's correct. It WAS several generations ago.
And the question mark goes inside the quotes.
@@theskyisfallingtom I couldn’t agree with you more! Ignorant people often don’t have intelligence or understanding. That is a typical response on his part
@@theskyisfallingtom Several is a minimum property of 3 you daft snowflake. Mind you to stick up for someone who needs it, and to stop making yourself look ridiculous to anyone with a functioning cortex.
It was hard to watch these babies in such distress and giving such clear signs. 😢
I know! The babies were literally pushing the bottle away - so amazing to see that
I promise you everything is all right
@@GotoworkkkI’m sure it was. It’s just sad to see. And as I imagine it was an observational study, there was no education provided to make these mothers aware.
I felt so sorry for these babies.. anybody else??
yes type 2 mother are idiots
The moms are all yucky except first one. But.... People are screwed up. Who knows what the rest of the moms life was like. Hopefully they got help. To just monitor something as serious as raising a child would be crazy.
Solid in 2 month old?!!!! Carrot for 2 weeks old? What the hell they were thinking?! I'm not surprised that most of those babies had terrible colic
@@oooollllmmmm0987 Heaven's, yes!
I can't believe how they're shoveling solid food into a tiny baby. Obviously these mothers couldn't read body language. I feel bad for those babies. Yes, I know, they are probably just fine but still. Now I wonder how many ended up being overweight throughout their lives. Force feeding even after they're full...
Let’s not forget that Postpartum Depression was highly undiagnosed during this time. I see it in the faces of many of these moms.
I was thinking the same thing. A lot of the type 5's seem to have it.
It takes more than a ‘look on someone’s face’ for me to diagnose them. They could be truly devoid of empathy.
Most likely these women were 1st time experienced mothers with no guidance. My 1st son suffered Colicky made me nuts clueless until afterwards. New mothers need more support of efficient skills how to nurture.
@@florencecavallaro4599 lmbo… exactly.
No it's that there's no bond with the baby if you don't breastfeed. Plus lower IQ. It's easier to tell when your body is also running out of food when to stop, plus you can just shove a tit on their face over and over, you'll smother them. It forces you to be calm and collected when feeding, and disables you from fidgeting so much with the baby. Bottle fed babies are products of failed mothers.
"The baby has freedom to discover his cheek" 😂😂😂😂😂
Kinda weird comment
That’s my kinda freedom lol
Yeah it was all a bit strange wasnt it i wonder if they might or should have told each one what was wrong i felt sorry for the babys it definitely opens your eyes im glad to say I was mother number 1 lol in feeding my 2 boys thankfully for them but its intresting what others do I felt terrible for the babies omg some of the phrases used were strange indeed
@@LJBSullivan Not in those times. Many mothers used to roll the babies in a sheet so they could not move. It was thought that that would calm the baby down. Oft times mothers would not bother to unroll the baby at feeding time.
@@tracyhudson1674 I feel the same as you, and as we know now, feeding your infant has to be one of the easiest parts of being a parent. It makes me wonder how these mothers behaved as their children grew and the parenting became more and more challenging.
Imagine if the mothers had heard the commentary during the feedings
😂
Maybe they'd stop being such C#*TS!!!
LOLOL
Some of them are not even alive today
Sucks they didn't
It would be nice to know if afterwards, they played back the sessions and told the mothers what was right and wrong about the feedings.
Amen! However, I get a strong feeling they would only get defensive about it and not actually take it in and learn
Like the mashed banana at 6 weeks old ?!
i cant beleive they would not help these mothers for the sake of the study HELP THESE INFANTS
They described the baby's behavior at 1 year as though no corrections had been made....just observation. That's too bad....they needed to learn!
@@Nessa___ I was thinking the same! Like, WtAf! 🤯
This was borderline unbearable to watch. And the coveted nearly aggressive burping! Sheesh! My Gran told me as an overwhelmed,nervous teen mother to simply be loving,tender,listen,observe and allow my baby to lead ME. Great advice which truly helped me navigate the first year.Daughter turned out perfectly fine,accomplished,stable
Beautiful. Your Gran is the example of why we should listen to and support the mother's wisdom and Gran wisdom. Never should have listened to men in medicine, religion, and psychology.
I love your Gran for this advice ❤
To let the baby lead was first propagaded officially by Magda Gerber.
@@anjaknatz7157 "propagaded"?
@@TheKrispyfort They were told to not breastfeed and feed formula milk, which by then was dried powder cows milk ( that is why babys had digestive problems because not realy adaptive formula milk like nowadays.) So it was a kind of propaganda. Which I called "propagaded"..
Very disturbing. I found myself wondering which one my mother would have been.
Well, how did u turn out?
@@margaretbriefs7347 About in the middle, I would guess. And you?
same.😱
l\ same
Same here!
The happiest time of my life was when nursing my babies. My heart was bursting with love for them❤️
That means your brain produces and responds to oxytocin. Lots of women don't have oxytocin
🤮
Type 4 Mothers seem to be straight up narcissists . All about them and how they are perceived as well as having no empathy for their child. The last woman telling the infant he would get no food unless he burped was maddening. Forcing solids was a thing back then, but the lack of recognition that the baby wanted the bottle more than anything was disturbing.
Type 5, detached parents, are proof that child-rearing classes should be mandatory and/or that not everyone should have children.
Narcissists destroy their children, their golden child turn out to be a narchissist themselfs, scapegoats get Borderline personality disorder.
@@tovenrvik6336 Tell us more please. I understand, but why borderline for scapegoats? I have some knowledge but not that much of why.
Bernita Centeno: about BPD, is something female daughters/scapegoats of narcissistic mothers get, bcs a narcissist don't care about others and are without empathy, a new born can't get the care they need, a person with borderline are empty and fragmented inside, an psychologist said they are distroyed. Ppl with bpd change moods many times an hour, get easy angry, a daughter of a mother with the disorder, wrote a book called: walking on eggshell. Eating disorders are connected to bpd, it is the disorder where most ppl comitt sueside. A lot of them end up with a narcissistic partner. At RUclips Dr Romano and Dr Rosenberg and other psychologists have videos about it.
@@bernitacenteno1326 watch dr. Ramani's videos on narcissism...you will learn all you need to know
Yea and posportum wasn’t really known back then
A couple of these mothers made me want to grab the baby away from them, and take care of it myself!
I agree with you. Some are up tight and tense as hell. They need to chill out, have fun with your baby. Don't ever wake a baby, and for God's sake if the kid isn't hungry don't force food.
Yes!!!!
Absolutely
Agreed
Of course.
How does one feed a 3 to 4 week old infant solids????!
I thought that was crazy too! Wait til the baby cuts some teeth! The digestive system will be more ready to receive those solids (about 6-9 month of age-ish). I have seen the torment of babies who had to pass stool when fed solids too soon. So sad to see them cry because of it.😔
Proud Indian Citizen That was a common practice back then, and it was even recommended by medical professionals. Now we know otherwise, so it looks shocking to us, but for them it was just a normal part of feeding your baby. They did what they could with the information that was available to them at the time. Not ideal or recommend by today’s standards, but back then it was all they knew.
Well back then they were pushing moms to not breast feed and they made it seem gross and primitive. It’s absolutely disgusting to give babies solids that early and these semi neglected poor babies have grown up to be...
Because of that moron Spock. Pediatricians recommended his books and that's how mothers raised their children.
Yeah. I am only 44 and my mom wrote in my baby book cereal at 3 weeks, then banana.
Oh my god. That mother who doesn’t wanna turn into her own who beat her... already had as soon as she started threatening a baby and calling him naughty. That’s sick.
I agree. I wish I knew how she was for his whole childhood and whether she continued the cycle her mother inflicted on her
She also looked like she derived pleasure when she would startle him when he would almost fall asleep. Gave her some power that she didn’t have when she was little
Oh yes that poor little one called naughty. If a baby is asleep dont hold it by the neck and startle it awake omg.
@@aterryadg i had a sad childhood so I'm not having babies because I'm scared I'll abuse them
Nvr Mnd I’m sorry. It’s a shame you had to endure that and you can’t enjoy the part of getting be a mom and have your own, but at least you know you are breaking that vicious cycle.
This should be called How to make a Serial Killer.
Exactly
TeeHeeHee!!!! Good one!!! These crazzzzzzy broads are really pissing me off 🙄😏
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@K. C. W. are you fricking kidding me? Most of the “mothers” in this video shouldn’t be mothers
Why doesn’t anyone help this babies by showing these women how to do it?
Omg. They did so many studies back then. They would even separate them for long periods of time to study how it affected them!!! Makes me insane!!
When the mom talks about how she wants to do the study so she doesnt react the same way her mom did (beat her)......my mind was spinning!!! Take the baby away!!! It is pretty safe to assume.......she was just like her mom.
Saudade73 They didn’t intentionally separate babies from their mothers for studies. That was done with baby monkeys, though. The studies that were done recorded mothers who were involuntarily separated due to events in their own lives, many from incarceration. In one study, they even went out of the country to a home for babies whose mothers had to be away from them.
It's making me sick to think it gets worse after 4...
They did! Who do you think these mothers got this from? The doctors.
When we got past type 3 I was actually getting anxious that we were going to journey on for more 😳😬 I want to find a time machine so I can rescue these poor infants. I think I have second hand ptsd
Tina, second hand PTSD!!! Good one. This flick is absolutely horrible. Poor babies!!!
Second hand PTSD. Bwahhhaha! 😂 Know what you mean though. I feel the same way.
Fuck i was like wtf it keeps getting worse
I don’t get it. How were these women raised that they act and feel this way?
My kids are adults and I Still feel like I just want to hug and take loving care of them. Their distress still makes me feel bad and I want to fix it. I don’t fix it, but I want to. 🥰
Vicarious trauma is a thing
Feeding the infants bananas and cereal was driving me crazy!!! My babies had nothing but breast milk for the first 6 months!!
Different time. Different knowledge.
Daily Dubstep That’s the best thing, for nutrition & bonding. My mother never breast fed me, not even once.
Good for you.
@@TVwriter23 Non-empathetic and lacks intimacy in type 111
@@snarkasticsquid2435 so? a lot of us weren't either. My brother and I were born in the 70s and breastfeeding wasn't encouraged at all
I would yawn all the time feeding my baby, it didn't mean I was unreceptive or uncaring, it meant I was tired. And I always, and still do, play with his ears and hair while he feeds to sleep, it was soothing to both of us. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong or how else I could do things.
I did that too, it's fine
This mothers do not play with a lock of babys hair peacefully and quiet or touches the ear in a smooth way but interfere and stimulate and manipulate against all possible signs the baby could possibly give - that is impingement not carress.
The mother that did those things was unreceptive and detached. She never spoke to the baby or made eye contact. The only way she touched the baby was to inspect it never to provide affection or connection. Her facial expression was also uninterested or a blank stare the whole feeding. Watch her part then go back to the first 3 mothers & it’s night and day.
That’s strange
That mother who constantly poked, shook, pinched and tickled her baby...I bet that kid grew up to HATE his mother. I know I sure hate her.
I had a mother exactly like this.. your guess is 100% correct.
Not necessarily true
It's amazing to me that the human race has survived as long as we have.
There’s over 17 billion of ya where else where we go space💀💀😭
I know right! I was getting pissed off with those type 3's
@@something4870 yeah well, some of them (and people today) really need to be thrown out into space! (I'm assuming that what you meant?? Your "sentence" really, didn't make much sense...) ✌️😂
Funny thing is all these babies in that generation were far more mentally and emotionally healthy than the spoiled over parented brats today. Attachment parenting like you support has been an abysmal failure for both mother's and children
@@keithmadden9260 what studies support the failure of attachment theory?
My mother would have been a 5.
No interaction. I was left to cry. She was told to let me self sooth ALWAYS. She gave no interaction to me or my siblings.
🙁😢
Awe. That's sad maybe she was depressed
That’s terrible. I’m sorry. Do you have a relationship with her now?
She could have learned that from her own mother, we get to be what our mothers made us. Feel sorry for you, I f you pray to God, you will find self love, I can learn you how to pray, if you want.
I’m so sorry, that’s really painful 💜😓
I think a lot of these mothers honestly just need some guidance.
I think unfortunately that's the guidance they got. There were books around teaching parents how to feed a baby with minimal body contact. And of course the still famous Ferber book.
well is different time we know better now
@@jmdelaquesta28 Do we?
Yes, let's face it, I don't think any of us know what the helll we're doing! Just think about what it involves being pregnant, giving birth and raising a child. It's crazy! The miracle of life is bloody hard work😂
@@AnnemieM yes and maybe in the future we will know more plus we have google google was my best friend 😅when I had my first baby
So which kids grew up to be Ted Bundy?
I'm going to assume it is the one whose mama told him he should be ashamed of himself.
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these one which mother force to eat carrot in 2 weeks old! if someone will try to do with me I swear I will hate all women in the world
You did idiot
@@oooollllmmmm0987 But the others are not responsible for that one.
"Type 5" ??? I couldn't imagine it could be any worse!
Interesting. I was a very natural mother; breast fed both babies for 9 months; they fed as long as they needed to and this relaxed them (and me). We would usually fall asleep together, my baby nursing for as long as it took. They never took a pacifier. They never sucked their thumbs. They both grew up to be stable, educated adults. Feeding schedules were unheard of-- - if they needed to nurse, they did, peacefully and uninterrupted.
The natural is breastfeed for around 3 years
Lucky you that did not have to do housework or cook or to get back to the office at baby’s 4th month
@@Clairs88 I did. It hurt.
Don’t get me wrong: I am totally for breastfeeding for a variety of reasons we all know; I breastfed my first son (up to 6 months, I could bear no more) and am breastfeeding my second as well. Both of them have grown very well, healthy and affectionate. Nonetheless, I never could get a joyful experience from any episode of feeding, rather than a burden, an inavoidable deed that keeps me away from all the other activities I would like to do, even for hours. With a 3-year old very very jealous first son, who does not accept the presence of a newborn at least for now, it is even harder - thankfully I have more aid from my husband and family this time, orherwise I don’t really know how I would manage it all. I guess I am a low empathy mother.. but I don’t think I’m the worst 😬
@@Clairs88 Why compare yourself with the worst? It's outstanding that you breast feed. It's a time to slow down and love. My babies would fall asleep at my breast, and I would too. It can be so relaxing.
I am a preschool teacher and this makes me so sad. I also give workshops to parents to help the parents be more interactive with their child. After one of my workshops a mother came up to me crying and told me this in Spanish thank you teacher I am glad I took this workshop. I have 3 children and I would have wished I would had this workshop when my other 2 children were young. I did not know that you needed to talk to babies when feeding them, washing them and even changing their diapers. I never talked to my children when they were babies because I thought they would not understand me if I did. I felt so bad and I told her that I was glad she was fixing her mistake with her last baby boy. I had her middle child in my class he was very quiet and did not say much. After showing her how to interact with her toddler and her baby they all had a better relationship. I am glad I got to help her out and this chain would stop with her. I hope this babies on this video turned out good God bless 🙏 them!!!
Alicia Garcia
Developmental Early Child Development Programs AND their TEACHERS are worth there weight in GOLD. I'm still in touch with 3 preschool teachers and my sons are 30 and 27. One lives in Europe.
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Imagine the ways the babies were emotionally conditioned negatively. Then as adults, can't figure out why they're so depressed or messed up!
This comment has me in tears. It makes so much sense.
I feel that all these mothers truly meant the best for their babies but just didn’t know how to do so correctly, they could’ve also been struggling with insecurities and pressure so it’s best not to be so hurtful/judging :(
Right they know they are being recorded. I bet a lot of them feel like they are being judged on “the right way” to feed their baby
You have empathy. You're absolutely correct.
Well they’re probably all dead now since this was almost 60 years ago so I wouldn’t worry too much.
There! Someone said it!
Also maybe they are still on postpartum depression, financial crisis or many factors
it takes a village to care for a child actually
also maybe the mother is expected to take care her house choirs, mother in law, father in law, own parents and her husband altogether taking care with her infant😢
"With a kiss to remind him of her feelings for him she tells him he should be ashamed of himself". That was absolutely heartbreaking!! She later said the happiest time of his day was when he's being fed. What does that say about how miserable he is the rest of the time if this is considered "happy"?!
What is the most concerning about this is these woman are aware they are being studied on their feeding. If they are this callous about it in front of people, how horrible must it be at home, in private?
It also shows they are think they're doing things right.
Ah, yes.
Performative Parenting 😢
Hopefully, some at least are more relaxed at home than in public.
It was maddening 😢
Some of those poor babies, ramming that food in. And heavy unnecessary burping!!!
I was force fed from birth until I went to school!! I was actually surprised to find out that food can actually be pleasurable when I got older. the concept was completely foreign to me!!
Sally, it's almost as if these mother's like " OVER" Burping them because they were angry that the baby wouldn't eat it's own body weight in cereal, bananas, carrot's, a Thanksgiving turkey, Mac & cheese, a can of Spam, a bottle of beer, a quick smoke and one more bottle. These Evil Mom's need a swift kick in the ass!!!?
It’s crazy to think that these babies would be around 53-54 years old today!
That’s what I just said above 👆
What about this is so hard to understand?😂😂😂
They should've gave the mother a bag of chips while they were hungry and then as soon as they bit one immediately took the chips away
Exactly. Show them how it feels to be taunted and teased.
And beat them on the back while they reached for another one
Or a cup of coffee. But their excuse is, that they are adults and can do whatever they want. They don't see the indifferencies.😀
This is hilarious
Lol! Too funny
It must be very difficult for the researchers to watch and film the neurotic mothers without intervening. It's no wonder the kids have psychological problems as they develop. Parental psychological should perhaps be mandated.
it definitely should, but then you'd have a lot of mentally ill people claiming it's discriminatory
We have to remember that for all the foibles and inadequacies seen here, these mothers volunteered for this project because they love their babies and want to do what’s best for them, ultimately. Based on the ending, it appears the vast majority were receptive to support and guidance. That’s a really big deal, because it is extremely difficult for a mother to ask for help, to admit that there are some things she might need to change or improve. As far as she knew, she was opening herself up to criticism and rebuke. So, kudos to these moms.
It could also be because the individuals who ran this study were offering money.
Wrong. They were compensated financially for their time.
Wrong. They were compensated financially for their time.
The one type 4 mother did not have any idea how to feed the baby, and telling him he should be ashamed of himself? Absurd.
Probably a good indication of how she was treated by her own parents 😢
Yeah she was literally abused by her mom, and was trying her hardest to not continue the cycle. She literally had no idea how to feed and care for the baby, because she'd never seen it properly modeled.
@@lisakemp7352 well she wasn't trying very hard not to be just as bad
@@heathernikki5734 We have no idea of that ! We don’t know what her life was like
She was so anxious to do a good job that she overdid it and he was exhausted and confused. She didn't even give him a moment to settle in for any activity, including rest, before jumping to some sort of startling action.
Did not make it past type 3. Was giving me anxiety
Very interesting but very disturbing. TFS
very
You have to remember that most mothers had to figure all of this "baby thing" out for themselves. Husband's went out and worked, and when he came home dinner was expected on time, a very clean tidy home, clothes clean and pressed. The judgement from society and demands from the husband were relentless. Often times babies were simply not "fun."
Good point Also they didn't have all the books available like today.
That's true, but their behavior harmed the babies regardless.
Two adults shouldn't have babies if they aren't ready.
excellent comment , i'd have to ponder the timeline , but modernity and the industrial revolution , gradually but relentlessly destroyed the village and then the extended family , and now even the nuclear family , destroying the support networks that historically women thrived within
@@mandypandy111ify Lack of education makes people stupid. They don't even realize what is the appropriate behavior towards their babies.
This has helped me so much! I have a month old daughter, not only am I a new mom I have never taken care of a baby before. I have learned to get rid of all distractions when I feed her, let her lead, and give eye contact.
Watching those babies push the bottles out of the way and seeing the moms keep forcing it literally made my heart rate increase. I jusr had a baby and i cant imagine not being in tune and responsive to her. I hope these moms and babies got into a better rhythm with each other 💔
WOW, there is a science to feeding babies. Always so much to take in. I loved how detailed this is.
First time I've watched one of these early childhood development documentaries that I actually thought it was useful. I would like to share this video with all new moms so they can understand the impact that the closeness that they could share with their babies at feeding time could have on the rest of their children's lives. Lack of emotional involvement from mom seems to be the stem of a lot of negative traits.
My mother had no problem telling me how much she hadn’t enjoyed taking care of me from the day I was brought home until the day I moved out after my high school graduation. She was cold, cruel with her words, and distant, thus we were never able to connect on any level throughout her lifetime. When I became a mother my only priority was my children, determined to do my best and love them dearly through positive reinforcement, kindness, empathy and endless love...thankfully my parenting style has given humanity well rounded, creative, and amazing people in the communities they now raise their own families in.
@@lainalopez3212 I'm sorry. I can't understand this. My kids are my favorite people! All we can do is learn from it. Love is free
I'm sharing this with my daughter, and my niece. Both of which will be giving birth this winter. Not as a "how to"... just more of a "watch these interactions"... and hope they learn from these women and some of those poor babies.
@@quitethesoph3558 yes! Ty for sharing.
You are wise and a good human being, who made that, and took a huge responsability, to change family patherns.🏆 A good rolemodel for your kids. 🌹
I'm surprised all of us didn't grow up to be bank robbers or serial killers, smh...
Not me! My mom didn’t treat me like this and my baby won’t be treated like this either.
I was surprised, that many around my age go to therapy. 🙂
@@oOIIIMIIIOo yes, I always think I'm the only fragile person around with a million hangups but as it turns out, we all are screwed up 😎
@@sandi21515 In different ways.
@@oOIIIMIIIOo yes so true
Very interesting & educational to watch; should be shown to all new moms. It’s amazing how babies so young can tell/show you what they want & don’t want. Agree, let your baby guide you. I raised a baby in the early ‘60s & NO solids were given this early, only milk. This video surely shows what NOT to do. I felt sorry for most of these babies.
I got chastised for not feeding my baby solids 😅
Near exclusively breastfed for 12 months, then mixed for six.
Only weaned after his Nanna took him for a couple of months to allow me to finish my final exams for my Bachelor degree, and lack of feeding led to drying up during the time despite pumping.
My plan had been to continue partial breastfeeding up to 36months.
The other two self-weaned at eight months 😢 when they discovered solids to be more satisfying.
@@TheKrispyfortI had my kid in 2012 and still got asked why I didn't feed solids to my infant.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of gradual solids after two weeks
Dude OMG type 3 mother's really made me mad. Then the next ones made me feel just sick wow hard to watch and believe how crazy these women are I am truly shocked
CoastGuardFamily
I think most of the time it's because that's how their mothers were with them
Not everyone can be Snow white
what was wrong with type 3 mothers?
Same!!! Dammit!!!! The looks on the moms' faces!! Infuriating
my mom and her friends from the old country were THE most neurotic and dare I say abusive mothers!! bad advice to new moms was their specialty!! one of them insisted that her children were completely toilet trained before 6 months of age which prompted the other more competitive ones to say the exact same thing!! another one used to advise the other moms to put all of the child's food in a blender because of a child's inability to fully digest food until they are much older!! I shall NEVER forget her poor 5 year old daughter being force-fed mushed peas and then mushed cheesecake for dessert. when I had my own child, my mom's best friend told me that if I wanted my child to quit wearing diapers (he was 2!!) I should hold a lit match close enough to his bum so he could feel the burning sensation and cease peeing/pooing himself!! PURE RIDICULOUSNESS!! their relationship with food was really warped as they had all gone through severe poverty in their country of origin and had to go hungry countless times!! but still...……….
A lot of these maladaptive feeding situations were due to the "Dr. is god" thinking of the time, the forcing of unneeded formula feedimg and the much too early introduction of solid food. ( solid food should never be given before the 6-month Mark. Baby should be able to sit alone, have a pincer grasp, And should be able to move food from the front to the back of the mouth and swallow without sucking. Offering or forcing solids before the baby is ready is damaging to the GI system and can be damaging to the mother-infant relationship.)
I'm an IBCLC lactation consultant and I see when mothers think their babies doctors ideas and control carry more weight than a mother's instincts to hold, breastfeed and allow infants to feed uninterupted, plus encouragement to trust thier own instincts and *stop worrying so much about burping* will help better mother-infant attachment.
I try to be tolerant, but the mother who said she didn't breastfeed bc it would make the baby "too deoendent" on her almost made my cry. Babies and toddlers are supposed to depend on their mothers. Independence comes from having a solid, trusting relationship with the mother.
Back in the 40s, 50s ,60s ,70s and even the 80s, and even sometimes in this day some doctors, although they don't know the babies or mothers at all, try to control everything the mother does. The 50s and 60s were the height of homemade formula,( the recipes of which would often be changed weekly by the pediatrician, who needed control at all costs) force-feeding, too early solids, unnecessary formula, and that ridiculous reliance on repetitive burping. It's amazing that those of us born in the 1960s survived!
Before the advent off almost universal formula feeding Pediatrics an was almost unheard of specialty.
The specialty of pediatric medicine only came about when some overly controlling Physicians realized that they could control their patients and see those patients frequently making a patient's rely on them by changing the formula recipe every week or more frequently than that.
Before the advent of the idea that chemically filled, man-made milk-like substance were superior to human milk and the process that a mother makes herself via breastfeeding babies are only seen a small number of times the first year to check weight and development.
When it was realized that making Pediatrics a medical specialty could result in seeing a patient two or three times or more a month, bringing in a great deal of money, using the Advent of formula feeding as a method of control and income Pediatrics exploded Seeing as the specialty, especially when run by men who never parented, divorced women from their instincts, it has become a necessary specialty. Family Practice physicians often nicely filled the bill before hone made formula, which needed constant changing and tweaking by the new speciality. Now it has become a neccesary specialty. Watch how the introduction of more drugs and more and more "neccesary pracautions" are given for younger and younger children makes sure frequent visits occur, now that more women are bresstfeeding and home made formula is, thankfully, rarely used.( I have no problem with good, well trained pediatricians. However, I am simply delineating how the field became specialized and how it was made necessary by middle-class and upper-middle-class people who wanted to be modern by divorcing themselves from the intimacy and necessary learning curve of breastfeeding and the reliance on unnecessary early solid food feeding and often unnecessary formula feeding..)
Breastfeeding failure was rarely heard of before the advent of powdered and canned infant food. Although, in very rare situations formula milk maybe occasionally necessary, Pediatrics relied on formula to make sure that they would be visited by the infant patient and their mother very frequently for many decades, and to some extent does today.
Today, we must remember that pediatricians are only experts of illness and injury in infants and children. They are not Child Development Specialists, they are not Feeding Specialists, and the vast majority of Pediatricians have not been trained properly in lactation and breastfeeding. I have a number of clients who are Physicians and the question they ask me repeatedly is "Why didn't they teach me anything about lactation and breastfeeding in medical school?" I don't know how to answer them.
I stick to my specialty, I don't try to treat illness or disease in infants, pediatricians need to do the same thing. Stick to their specialty: treating disease and injury in infants and children. if Medical School spent more time on teaching Child Development, as they did in the past, and spent at least two semesters on lactation and breastfeeding, we'd have fewer problems with these things today. But, I don't see that happening.
Sorry for the text wall. That video really triggered me.
LCMary62 thank you so much for this post. I wish I could share it everywhere. I always say all of this. The blind worship of doctors, especially pediatricians, is scary.
My now 34 yr old beautiful daughter started having a nighttime snack of thinned out rice cereal and did wonderful at 1 mos.. She loved it with creamed apricots. I loved having a bedtime snack so that was hers. Just love your babies, no one is perfect, you'll hear a 1,000 different things and with our population people are doing just fine.
I read a book where was described that standard procedure during labour was to use chloroform and cut unconscious mum to be and take the baby out with forceps!!! 60's and 70's was look like that. After delivery baby was often taken away from mother for 24 hours and feed with formula even against mother wishes! That was standard procedure for 'mother and baby good'. After reading this in book ''food of Love'' i decided on home pool birth without any doctors interference. Thanks hospitals you will never see me during labour.
What does a pincer grip have to do with solids? I've never heard that? lol
@@pixie1310 the Pincher Grasp or Grip is part of the neurological development of the baby. The ability to grasp a small bit of food with the thumb and forefinger is correlated with the development of the GI system's ability to handle solid food.
In other words, nature knew what it was doing. If a baby can't pick up a small piece of food between forefinger and thumb to bring it to the mouth, they simply aren't ready for solids.
Spoonfeeding is not the milestone for solids, proper manual dexterity is, as it it develops in correlation with GI readiness for solid food.
These mother needed guidance instead of criticism..
Back then mothers had big families, and babies were placed in their pram or sofa with a bottle in its mouth with a towel or blanket to hold it in place, and the babies only got held when the mothers were burping the babies.. They had other small kids to look after.. They did of course show love, and hugged their babies just not at feeding time.. Feeding was a long process, and with other babies, and toddler there just wasn't time.. The baby was fed as I described above, or by the older siblings.. As most families back then had 6 or more kids..
My mother was the oldest of a family of 9, and most of the time feeding the youngest baby was my mother's job..
All my aunties, and uncles were happy, funny, children, and where the same as adults..
With great stories of childhood, memories .. They all adored my grandmother (their mother ).
I remember my grans house as fun and lots of love...
I understand what you're trying to say..nonetheless, these mothers were clueless and mothers with soooo many children..the children do suffer in 1 way or another! As children or teens or adults..and father's who show little affection..it's the same!
@@jameswells-uk6qu I agree with you.. My comment was based on stories my mother told.. You're right, and make a good point... Like everything else there are many difference of opinions, and everyone has a diffrerent story or opinion... Thank you for replying.. Xx
@K. C. W. ❤🌹
I remember pics of my mother feeding my premature sister cereal in the hospital. Formula was homemade and juices were given. It’s amazing we all lived.
A lot of these mothers may be suffering from postpartum depression. Also, a lot of them are probably forcing food and bottles because they’re made to seem neglectful if they’re baby isn’t a perfect weight. Not to mention the fact doctors told mothers that they have to feed newborns food and formula, which could upset their stomach badly.
Some people really don’t understand how bad ppd can be. You feel lost, confused, suicidal, no love, resentment, no connection. I couldn’t even remember my full name or birthday when I was asked at the doctors. These women need help, love and guidance. How are people not understanding this?
This. Thank you. Ive got PPA, PPD, and PPOCD and people do not realize how much those can drown you.
My mom had her first child at home, in 1936. Not unusual for the time. She nursed her baby etc fine, as she had experience of childcare, as one of 12 children. In 1943, she had my oldest brother in hospital and she had to ask for my brother to be brought to her to be breastfed. All the nurses told her that was old fashioned, unsanitary (!) Etc. Really tried to dissuade her. Didn't work. She nursed all of us. Like the #1 mom's depicted here. She really was a #1 mom in all ways
I also heard of that generation being discouraged from breastfeeding and that it was widely considered gross. It was just something people just didn't do. My thinking is formula companies planted that narrative.
You are very very fortunate.
Yall want abusers to stay off the streets, first start with the mothers.
These mothers are traumatized. Start with addressing the trauma.
Denis Frampton lmao what-
@@hello7thgod I’m not gana blame the mother for having trauma, but I will blame them for putting that trauma on the kids
@@Blessed_Sound a lot of women do not recognize their trauma, or that their traumatized behavior is traumatizing the child. as you hear, neither did these healthcare professionals, they allowed it to continue in order to see the result after one year. These mothers are experiencing medical neglect and many still do today. They experience abuse from family or their partner and are expected to carry on like none of it happened or to recognize that they are behaving poorly as a result. I blame the culture.
@@hello7thgod So i have a question, and please dont take this has me trying to start a confrontation. So if a man rapes a child (and we know or find out the man has been raped when he was younger), do we lock up the guy who raped the child or the rapist who raped the man when he was younger?
I know a type IV mother personally. This is exactly how she treated her sons. Both are adults now. Both narcissists! One of them a malignant narcissist. Well done, great job! 🤦♀
Those poor sons! I hope they can get the help they need.
@@twindrill2852unfortunately, they'll probably just reapeat the cycle if they have children.
I’d love to know what the babies grew up like. What their personalities were like
Yes it would be fascinating and I would assume highly disturbing. I could tell you from my experience I suspect my mother was either type 3 or 4, because she was not empathetic and only cared for me if it met her own wants and needs.
Now as an adult I have zero love or attachment towards my mother. It is very difficult for me to form close relationships with anyone. I have a hard time with trust. I learned at a young age that the only way I could cope was to dissociate from my emotions due to my needs being neglected, and I still struggle with disassociation. I have been going to therapy for over a decade, so that definitely helps, but I still resent the fact that I was not given the love and attention all children needed, and how my story isn’t uncommon. Some people do not deserve children.
Yes I loved hearing how they were at a year
Black Widow I would love to know too! I wish they would have had another video of them at one and two years old!
@@Dania.q thank you for your deep sharing.. I’m so sorry to hear that you had a tough childhood. But at least you now acknowledge where your psychological sufferers come from. And they are not from you but from your mother.. I really pray that you soon overcome those difficulties as you shouldn’t be the victim of your own mother but it’s her who has to pay off for the way she treated you.. as for now and for good, she will never truly understand and feel how sweet, how dear it is a smile a hug and a invincible connection and love that a child can give to his mother whom he love truly...
Yeah. Also, there are many more aspects to a babies life than feeding. A persons personality is formed by other experiences and people too
It's unbelievable to sit and watch someone literally torture they're babies. Every new mother I feel should watch this film it freaked me out but also gave brilliant points.
idk the second mother in type 5 just seems anxious, whether it’s because she knows she’s being watched or because she was a worried first time mother.
The happiest time of the day was when he was being fed.😳
JESUS!?
Yeah right..😭💔
Lol really??
I will always remember putting peas on my oldest son's high chair tray. He would squish each of them with his finger before eating them. He talked early. He called the peas "little green army helmets".
It's strange I would have assumed mothers had more teaching back then, due to closer multigenerational relationship. I'm glad we have more access to information for young mother now
JAMSAI De Melo They must have told them to give them semi solids way too early. That seemed to cause lots of trauma for these babies.
@Denis Frampton that is such a lie. I can’t imagine why you would even think that. There was not enough support and education. And how many of these moms were maybe not pregnant by choice? Maybe they were not ready for this.
Perhaps some of the inappropriate feeding behavior was taught to these mothers from multiple generations of bad advice.
Seeing as previous generations were taught to deny children of affection to avoid "spoiling" them, I'd say it's the reverse.
Maybe they got there info from doctors... I'm sure they left the hospital with instructions.
I loved nursing my babies❤️
And I did on demand feeding for all. My first was fussy but I was young and nervous. Relaxing helps so much.
I fed mine on demand. Never left them to cry. Ppl said they'd grow up spoiled and demanding. They're now wonderful caring independent human beings.
@@vanessasimmons1175 The people who said that don't know what they're talking about. Answering to a baby's needs consistently is so important for their development!
@The mysterious Miss X That's gold. Got to love advice from someone who has never had a child. BTW there is nothing mysterious about you, none can go to your channel and see what kind of lunatic you are. Love that for you 😀
This was so stressful to watch... If I saw something like this in public I'm not sure how I would respond. Also, the first group of mothers made me feel such sweet feelings that I was not prepared for how upsetting the rest of it became.
I’m going to take your comment as a sign to get out now while I still can. I’m stopping watching at the beginning of stage four mothers.
I agree. I feel so sorry for most of these babies. Where did these women learn these things? It was just awful watching these tiny babies suffering through this!
Same!
I think I would have a hard time not giving some friendly advice if I actually saw this in front of me. These are the moms who complain that the baby is always fussy yet have no clue that they are making them that way.
Hahaha, those of you saying where did these women learn these things- such inept care for an infant- you must be from middle-class Men ship or above. Come down here to poverty land and you will see plenty of this. In 2023, in 1973, in 1943..... Yeah, it's obvious you've never spent considerable time hanging out with the poor, especially not hanging out with the ultra poor. Been homeless for the last 15 years. Been a low-wage worker for 20 years before that & lived in the most inexpensive of areas in order to make due. I've seen it all. The failure of these women to understand the needs of their infants is not uncommon in the lowest of economic strata
I nursed my girls till almost 2 years old. I loved every moment and so did they. I read that a newborns vision is the exact distance from moms boob to her eyes. Beautiful. God is good. ❤️✝️❤️
I was bottle-fed and I bottle fed my baby. Guess what? Super healthy and super bonded! Feeding a baby a bottle is also the same distance to her eyes. And, my sweet baby girl is super bonded to her daddy. XO
@@gregzgurl2004 Yeah but its not the same as feeding your child your own milk, just isnt.
lexy troon Theres really not much of a difference at all. It’s just preference honestly.
@@tired6971 but by giving a bottle you don't have the felling yk? my cousin cried a lot and kept saying how wonderful it was to feel her finally sucking her when she breastfed her daughter for the first time (her daughter had to stay in the hospital for a while because of complications and she only was able to chance to breastfeed her some weeks after her birth because before she had to use a thing that is like a bottle but i forgot the name of it in english)
I nursed my 3 children also such a different was of feeding and not so ruff
This reminds me of the practice so popular when I had my first son (1992), of letting babies "cry it out" to go to sleep. It was torture for him and for me. But I was told it was "best" 💔♥️
Wait, that’s wrong?
My mom told me that she was instructed to do this as well when I was a baby, but she just couldn't stand to let me cry. It's crazy how responding to a crying baby is sometimes considered spoiling them.
Soooo destructive to mental health long term. Children are mammals and pack animals. They should not have to cry alone in distress.
I hated it, and felt like a failure because I couldn't do it. It made me cry listening to him cry 💔
My first daughter was born overseas, I remember being told, the baby was held for 9 months inside you, they are used to being held. Also, we fed on demand. My husband was a huge supporter. Also, my mother in law told me when she lived in South Africa, she said she rarely heard a baby cry, because someone was always there to hold them.
I loved feeding my baby. When I was breastfeeding, it was our private time to bond and just be together in a warm little space. I can’t imagine a mother thinking it’s a chore, or a bother. :(
Well unfortunately some women don’t like the fact that their bodies will never be the same after child birth and now their breasts are owned by the baby, she feels like it’s not even her body anymore and it’s constantly used by the baby and the dad 😒
@@YoMamaIsSweet You’re right. That’s unfortunate.
I loved feeding my kids, both bottle & breast. It’s hard sometimes sure, but it was a precious bonding moment! It surprises me a lot of these mothers weren’t listening to their cues.
Yes. I loved feeding my infant as well. Not only was it one of the most fulfilling parts of parenting, it was, without a doubt one of the easiest parts of parenting. I shudder to think how some of these mothers behaved as the parenting became more and more challenging.
I know that issues with breastfeeding can greatly impact the emotions and bonding of a feeding. It impacts the way I felt about how I was feeding my child. It didn’t feel like a chore but I felt like a failure. He never latched.
This is absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Although I am uncomfortable watching some of these types, we need to bear in mind that postpartum depression was highly undiagnosed in this era. Depression is obvious in the face of some of these women.
AND, they're from The Great Depression experienced generations. That's another level of complication
@elizabethhalasz361 heart goes out to you
Well. First of all, my profound appreciation for those making this video and those posting it publicly.
As a new mom, I have to admit that motherhood is not simple as it’s me who has to take all decisions for the apparently simplest thing like how he should get to sleep, eat...and that gets more compounding when thinking of his future begins from NOW..
Looking at this tiny-harmless creature every time I breastfeed him, I wonder a lot about how life continues, well my life perspectives get broadened ..
why such little one just can’t speak to tell his needs but just to cry and cry for every cause.. And I think, it turns out those cries are just enough as mothers just need to respond to those cries and once those cries stop so do the problems..No need for verbal interaction, just acting wholeheartedly to respond to those cries..that’s all..
so finally it turns out that love is the key on which a baby thrives. So for me, motherhood teaches me to become a better version of me as I have to practice Love and Empathy everyday.. Therefore, I think the more Love and Empathy one acknowledges and obtains, the easier for them to practice Motherhood. In other words, before becoming a mother, one should train themselves to become a more well-rounded person in the first place and there would be less babies suffering from their own mothers 🙏🙏
Well said!
How is motherhood going for you now? And good old is your little one?
I’m a new mother too. My little girl is 2 months old, it is one heck of journey so far.
My mother was/is a vile creature. Zero empathy and not an ounce of maternal instinct. It took me 42 years to gain the courage to walk away from her and my narcissistic, sociopath younger brother. Has been the best 2 years of my life and to anyone who knows the constant feeling of dread and unhappiness of having a hateful mother and doesn’t know how to walk away....just do it. I promise you that you’ll feel so much better and it’ll change your life for the better. Life is too short to suffer at the hands of bad parents and I only wish I’d binned mine sooner. I have 3 kids who are grown and have left home. I used my own childhood experiences to make sure my kids were raised to feel loved and happy. My husband and I have been married for 20 years and I’m now the happiest I’ve ever been.
Do you have brothers/sisters? If so did they get angry at you or not speak to you bcause you chose to walk away form your mother.
The commentator is hilarious
Right?! "after being burped 600 times..." Hahaha! 😂
I totally thought so too, he was cracking me up!
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During this 2hr feeding she patted, and rubbed his back more than 5,000 times😂🤦🏽♀️😂
That poor woman, doing the exact opposite of what will make the baby comfortable, then kind of getting ‘mad’ at the baby, but also wanting to avoid being so angry and abusive because she knows that’s how she was raised. She got treated cold and now she doesn’t realize how cold shes being. The family really is a cycle.
Ahhhh doesn’t this so clearly show that mothers don’t just know what to do but rely on what we’ve seen, experienced, and learned. At that time there was a lot of weird instructions for mothers especially around feeding, adding to the fact that there were social expectations on mothers to be independently able to do it all. I especially feel for the last group of mothers who are clumsily trying so hard!
Every time I kept thinking it couldn’t possibly get worse, it did.
At 26:37 “incidentally at one year of age this was a beautiful baby” 🤣🤣🤣🤣He read our minds.
Lol ikr 😅
My baby used to look like that. He is SO handsome now. 😁
What made him say that? All the hair?
@@matthewthomasjames
Yup. That’s just too much black hair for a newborn baby. Makes it look like an old person. 🤣
I lacked emotion and connection with my first but I tried to do my best with what i knew. I can say these moms mean well but will likely feel guilt over time. I bet these woman were amazing grandparents. They probably spoiled their grandbabies and vicariously re raised their own children through their grandchildren as if to do it over and do it right this time.
It's so sad that not every mother has a natural motherly insinct..then the babies suffer..
Imagine them doing these observations and posting them today...
I can imagine that parenting trends change in a few years and what's being advertised today as hip will be seen as a completely monstrous (say: the cry it out method?)
I'd actually like to see that!
You need a license to drive a vehicle, own a firearm etc. But anyone can have a baby?
That's strange to me
Maybe because it's a completely natural act, which human have been doing successfully for millions of years. Seven billion plus people...mothers must be doing something right!
In my mother’s group I observed a few mothers who were like this. Very cold, distant, rigid and angry. Surprisingly they all went on to have another baby before the first one was a year old. It was shocking to be honest, they are not motherly whatsoever. I believe they had babies for the wrong reasons. Another point I noticed was their babies were put into childcare before 6 months old
;-_-
I hate this a lot but I have met people who continue to have children for federal money. It’s gross and evil, and most of the time the children grow up poorly educated with poor emotional skills and end up hating their parents.
@@jersieyDono that’s how the “hoods” got started my dear.😂
Happens so often 😢
@@blossom1643 So how did the 'hoods" get started?
The narrator gets more judgemental by the minute lmfao
I hope they corrected or told them type 3 & 4 & 5 mothers they were wrong. They made me wanted to feed them babies myself! I hope those mothers got some type 1 feeding training and got to see themselves in the video. I bet they were just concerned with being in a video. I feel sorry for those babies. Some of them women shouldn't have them babies PERIOD!!!
The doctors told them to do this. This was considered good at the time.
@@TVwriter23 doctors had their own opinions, some told wrong statements. As you can see, some mothers were doing good. The others showed signs of frustration and did not enjoy spending time feeding the baby. They acted like it was a chore, whereas the better mother’s enjoyed the time. As you can see the narrator and who ever made that documentary was aware they were feeding the babies wrong, so we hope they did tell them
Some parts of this was hard to watch. I too wonder which my mother was. I was abandoned at 2 1/2 years of age. Alone for 3 days then found. 😢 Was naked, dirty, and hungry. Was beaten frequently. Mostly in the head with a curtain rod. Adopted after abandoned and mentally and sexually abused. Early childhood trauma can have tremendous affects on the baby and it continues throughout adulthood. It affects the child/adult both mentally and physically.
I am so sorry to hear that. I pray you have a wonderful life from here on out. I hope you are in a better situation now.
I'm so sorry that you went thru that. That is so outrageous. How can ppl treat a baby like that? I hope things have turned around for u. 💖
I'm so sorry 😪
Very sorry Stephanie.
The first years are so important, I feel sorry for you, and have a lot of trauma too, 8 years ago, I start praying to God for cleansing and protection, several times a day and calmness and self love came automaticly. If we pray, we keep dark forces away from our energy field, spiritual warfare is going on. If you want to pray, it ends with: I pray to you, in your son Jesus name, amen. Important to pray before sleep, to keep the enemy away. I wish you the best! 🌹
Most of them are neurotic 😳 It would be interesting to know how each child turned out as an adult!
Damn stop taking the bottle 🍼 from them 😕
I kind of feel bad for some of these mothers ... they are trying really hard to meet their baby's needs (remember I said some!)
I hope they showed the mother's these videos so they can learn how to properly care their babies
Good grief, this was only two years before my era of motherhood and I don't recall so much concern about burping! Likewise, feeding solids before about 6-8 months was discouraged. It was shocking to see the tiny ones - 2 weeks! - having pablum rammed into their mouths. The one who kept her baby incessantly awake and flailing made me a nervous wreck!
I know back then solids were fed much sooner than now, but this video was amazing! I had the privilege of being in the hospital for 5 and 4 days respectively when I had my boys, which gave time for the nursing staff to do patient teaching. Now new moms and even the very young teen moms are out the door with no real guidance or understanding of taking care of a babies needs. This was very interesting, but 5000 tried in one feeding sessions to get the baby to burp! Incredible.
not exactly true
I'd be surprised if someone who gets no instructions at all will even consider burping the baby. This rather seems to melike they got too much instruction.
I loved this! The last mother and baby were my favorite. I wish they would have shown more of the other babies at 6 months and a year like the last one
I once worked in a child care centre. I hope people watching this realise that there are far worse infant feeders than any of these women and they get paid to feed babies in child care centres all over the world.
I'm 44 years old. I was only 18 years old at the time I worked in this very respectable child care centre and I was horrified!
I'm not saying that any of the workers were bad people or that they had bad intentions. But they certainly lacked empathy and I felt that the very aggressive manner of feeding the infants and toddlers was unwarranted. Eg, firmly holding the face of a child that is clearly no longer hungry and forcing food into their mouths even after they've began to cry and are clearly distressed.
Add to their lack of empathy, the fact that they don't have any maternal attachment to these babies and they simply don't have the time to be patient, the end result is these poor little children have food shovelled into their faces like it's an Olympic sport.
I will never forgot this one little 3yo girl. She was very timid. This one day she didn't want to eat her yoghurt. I think she wasn't feeling well. The centre manager was getting frustrated with her and forcing it into her mouth aggressively.
I mentioned that she didn't seem very well today as her eyes looked tired and her cheeks were flushed. I was hoping this might convince my boss to stop assaulting this poor child's face.
She paused to look at her, agreed with my observation and then continued force feeding her until she threw up.
My boss huffed angrily and said "oh you naughty girl. Now look what you've done!"
That little girls eyes have haunted me for 26 years.
I quit the next day.
Yeah I hate child care centers, they are the most horrible places for children to be.
No wonder there are so many school shooters and 14-year-old rapists.
I would've done the same to the brat.
I also used to work as a daycare assistant in my early adulthood and I too felt uneasy about the way the lead teachers and directors would treat the children, especially the children who were shy or struggled to grasp new information.
After watching this, I thank God for my Mom ( and Dad)!! 🥰
Most of these mothers have no clue how to feed their baby and disguising feeding babies solids at 6 weeks of age. They only wanted to drink not force feed solids. So sad to see the detached mothers.
That was the advise of the time to give your baby solids as soon as you can
Back then that was the thought on feeding babies. Babies were introduced to feeding solids way sooner than now. Now we do it later and are mindful of potential allergies which I don't think they were thinking about back then. The solid food wasn't the mom's fault. They were told to give it by the doctor.
I was told to start them young by our first pediatrician when my milk dried up and we moved to bottles. She said full bellies sleep through the night. She was 2 months old and under weight. I waited until she was six months old, however some will take one doctor at their word and dismiss anything further...
Giving babies solids at that age was normal at that time. This isn't a current documentary so you have to think about what we know now is not what they knew then. I mean the smoked during pregnancy in front of babies and babies sat in car seats in the front seat and there was seat belts
They didnt seem detatched to me, they were attentive, just misinformed. Why is feeding baby solids disgusting ?
This is sad to watch. I loved feeding my babies it was our quiet cuddly time ❤
lilblacklamb I did too. I admit though my youngest did get semi solids at about 3weeks. She was ravenous lol. I had two kids and I could only care for her because it was change baby feed baby burp baby change baby feed baby. I also did the absolute WORST OF THE WORST lol and gave her cows milk. I had no milk, I tried but she would have starved to death. So I started on formula and she projectile vomited every single one, so I moved on to goats milk, same thing, so out of frustration I tried good old fashioned cows milk. Vomiting stopped, belly aches stopped and she is a happy health 30 year old with no known allergies to any food, she’s incredibly intelligent, and though she was a roly poly baby she ended up a fitness model for quite awhile. She’s moved on from it now but still has the figure. I think we place to much attention on what we’re told and not enough on what our babies are actually showing us and telling us they need. They’re all different and can’t be stuffed into a cookie cutter mold. Although her pediatrician said that it was definitely unconventional and not the recommended course of action it was apparently what SHE needed and told me to continue unless we saw signs that it wasn’t working.
Omg same!
Yes it is if you have plenty of time to lose. Not all women have all this spare time. Especially when you have other children to take care of
Telling a newborn he should be ashamed of himself?😭😭
20:15 😁
Lol
They said about one of the moms towards the beginning that she burped the baby 600 times! I think the narrator snuck a joke in there, I mean really they counted 600 times, lol! Towards the end they said one mom took two hours to feed baby and patted/burped 5,000 times! This is just nuts!! These poor babies, not all of them but a lot of them.
I'm a early 80's baby...my mother was and is amazing! But there's a picture of me laying in the bed only a month or 2 old, bottle in mouth being propped up with a pillow, eyes closed and my sister (just a year older than me) standing over me, naked wearing a cowboy hat....idk what the hell was going on in that moment but I turned out okay 👌😂
lol
That is hilarious. Your momma might have went to take a quick smoke break and just had your sister watch ya for a few minutes lol!
@@jipfluffy2143 Smoke break ?! 😳
@@jipfluffy2143 I'm just now seeing this reply and omg! She really probably did! 🤣🤣
That was hard to watch frusterating and painfull the first 3 or 4 mothers where compforting and content
That baby discovers his cheek and it is of course adorable
This is so interesting and I am sure still stands the test of time- for better or for worse. The fact that the type often remains the first year is fascinating. It just shows how little we as women learn about the experience- pregnancy onward...
Why are they being so rough? Starting to piss me off!!!!
I know what hell. Force feedinh
What's new! They are like that just now. They are better at hiding it now.
To look "efficient" mothers. Like they "know the right technique" until they prove their point. I know people who still do that. They are mostly old ladies😥😫 kids wishes NEVER mattered.. . one of the kids even commited suicide as a grown up
Oh you should know my mother. She broke a bone of one of my arms when I was a newborn
It irked me how that one mom blamed her baby's distress on colic. How could she not see that it was really due to her manhandling him?! 🤦🏻♀️ Anyone of any age would be upset if force-fed and handled so roughly!
Some of this is clearly child abuse. Why didn’t the observers stop the abuse?
Science
Because the purpose was not to help the babies, but just for research.
In those days, doctors didn’t know what post partum depression in new mothers was. Instead of putting these mothers into 5 categories regarding empathy towards their babies, why didn’t they say anything about what the mother was going through during that time? These old films make too much judgment on these new mothers, yet we can’t hear the mothers talking at all, just a man behind a blacked out window talking about them. Children are a product of heredity and environment and some may have unknown mental or physical disorders that aren’t diagnosed yet and it makes the mother look bad if the baby acts indifferent.
Wauuu I work in child care and I had no idea that how we feed a baby affects in his or her behavior. Important information but we don't know much of it.
The man narrating though, was right on point and 💯 %. I loved his style, anyway someone conducting this I’m sure gave these moms some help, whether it helped them is unknown. When I was a young mom i know I wasn’t perfect but love was always number one!! God bless all of us and may we always lend a loving hand