Great review ! Im diggin' the TCU _'Jungle_ _Fatigues'_ too. Looks like you're wearing the late version, third pattern TCU, which are made of cotton poplin ripstop material. Very popular in Vietnam because they were lighter, cooler and dried faster, and they were the precursor to the BDU uniform. Unfortunately, TCU's require starching and ironing. The 653 debuted in 1973/74, so its not _unpossible_ that a handful of them were used in the closing days of the Vietnam War, by soldiers wearing 3rd pattern Jungle Fatigues.
Thanks, yes the 3rd pattern jungle uniform is much better than the older og-107 especially for Vietnam. The poplin fabric while less durable is still much more comfortable then the ripstop bdu fabric, this is one of the reasons Army Rangers continued to wear jungle uniforms well into the 80's instead of the the newer RDF or BDU uniforms. The 653 while it was used with jungle uniforms like in the photo i show of rangers from 1986 it was 100% not used in the Vietnam war these were not purchased by the military until well after the war was over.
@@cloneordie3828 Agreed. The 653 is an 80's/90s carbine, (Panama and Somalia timeframe). Its cool that PSA offers a replica. There is nothing wrong with the older equipment.
@@newdefsys Yea im very happy someone was actually able to get these carbines to the modern market that much of the previous retro makers seem to have ignored, and well below the price point of old colts from the 70's.
@@cloneordie3828 It's not nitride, it manganese phosphate which is closer to black than gray. Zinc phosphate is gray, but nobody does that on an industrial level anymore.
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 I took a look at my upper and then a colt m4 upper i had just to be sure and my rifle does not have m4 feed ramps they make so many different versions of these guns im not sure if one has them and another doesnt
most companies want to be within the NFA while i wish they were more common i understand why they are not. The most common thing i have seen is guys that get 20in m16a1 barrels cut down to 14.5 ironically this is also exactly what the idf did to turn their m16's into carbines of various barrel lengths.
@@agent_espo yea they were selling it with an a2 marked lower and profile as a “early 723” and got called out on it. it’s why I never bothered before they actually started making the correct guns. Big fan of the black ops builds btw
@@pinkeypie1966 yes some were built with a1 uppers that were left over, just like how 733’s can be a1, c7 or a2 but most still don’t really consider those 723 pattern when it’s not built on a c7 upper
@@pinkeypie1966 psa was just in a rush to get guns to the market to fill the retro gap before the c7’s were available and calling something a 723 so people would buy it for their bhd build even though it really was not really the correct gun for that era. Colt was lazy and often built commercial guns with what they have left over from government contacts it’s why so many civilian guns were sp1’s. The overwhelming vast majority of 723’s are c7 uppers with m4 profile barrels and generally this is what is considered a 723 in the clone community. Skinny barrels and a1 uppers are typically for 653’s or civilian guns
It was reference to the scene where Sergeant Barnes shoots Elias with the 653 carbine the specific scene you were referring to was the last scene where Charlie Sheen's character kills Barnes with the AK.
Big props for taking frag to the face and finishing the larp, great vid on a niche little carbine
Thanks, accidents happen and I have very limited time to film lol.
liked for eating that like a champ. Sorry that happened but great video!
@@wellhello2828 thanks! video had to get finished so I kept going. Accidents can always happen I’m just glad I was prepared.
It's hard to beat this aesthetic and how light and handy these pencil barrel carry handle carbines are.
@@BenBelkin yea it’s hard to beat and these carbines look great and weight nothing. I do think they could benefit from a h2 like most 14.5’s though
@@cloneordie3828 I hear ya. Keep up the good work.
I zeroed a recent H&R XM177E2 acquisition this morning. I absolutely love what PSA is doing with these clones.
@@ai5dd aside from what I talk about so far I’m impressed with what they were able to bring to market better than what brownells could do
Great review !
Im diggin' the TCU _'Jungle_ _Fatigues'_ too. Looks like you're wearing the late version, third pattern TCU, which are made of cotton poplin ripstop material. Very popular in Vietnam because they were lighter, cooler and dried faster, and they were the precursor to the BDU uniform. Unfortunately, TCU's require starching and ironing.
The 653 debuted in 1973/74, so its not _unpossible_ that a handful of them were used in the closing days of the Vietnam War, by soldiers wearing 3rd pattern Jungle Fatigues.
Thanks, yes the 3rd pattern jungle uniform is much better than the older og-107 especially for Vietnam. The poplin fabric while less durable is still much more comfortable then the ripstop bdu fabric, this is one of the reasons Army Rangers continued to wear jungle uniforms well into the 80's instead of the the newer RDF or BDU uniforms. The 653 while it was used with jungle uniforms like in the photo i show of rangers from 1986 it was 100% not used in the Vietnam war these were not purchased by the military until well after the war was over.
@@cloneordie3828 Agreed. The 653 is an 80's/90s carbine, (Panama and Somalia timeframe).
Its cool that PSA offers a replica. There is nothing wrong with the older equipment.
@@newdefsys Yea im very happy someone was actually able to get these carbines to the modern market that much of the previous retro makers seem to have ignored, and well below the price point of old colts from the 70's.
The return of carry handles
@@JustSumGuy01 we like to make sure they never die
@@cloneordie3828 I am probably never getting rid of mine.
Got the H&R 654 the version with no forward assist I adore it
very cool cant wait to finish my 723
@@Duran-2a love the 723 a delta classic. we will eventually cover our 723 builds
@@cloneordie3828 hyped for that
I can't belive that PSA would stick a nitrided BCG 5:59 in their retro line, what the hell PSA??!!
@@JS-pn4jw yea I’m not a huge fan but it keeps the guns cheaper and it’s an easy swap
@@cloneordie3828 It's not nitride, it manganese phosphate which is closer to black than gray. Zinc phosphate is gray, but nobody does that on an industrial level anymore.
@@MikeCeoHR i stand corrected then, it is a manganese phosphate bcg. it still does not look correct so its something i would have replaced anyways.
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In the MARINES we called them Ranger rifles that's who we saw using these and so we dubbed them Ranger rifles.
How tiny are you that a 653 looks big in your hands? Loved the video.
Do these come without the M4 extensions and feed ramps like the original models have?
H&R rifles do not have m4 feed ramps on the barrel or upper
@@cloneordie3828 But then why does PSA's website say it has m4 barrel extensions?
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 I took a look at my upper and then a colt m4 upper i had just to be sure and my rifle does not have m4 feed ramps they make so many different versions of these guns im not sure if one has them and another doesnt
I wish someone made an actual 14.5 inch barrel assembly. So i could make a it even closer clone. It's all 14.7 or 16
most companies want to be within the NFA while i wish they were more common i understand why they are not. The most common thing i have seen is guys that get 20in m16a1 barrels cut down to 14.5 ironically this is also exactly what the idf did to turn their m16's into carbines of various barrel lengths.
Wasn’t PSA selling this in a slightly different config and calling it their “723” for like ever until they started making C7’s
@@agent_espo yea they were selling it with an a2 marked lower and profile as a “early 723” and got called out on it. it’s why I never bothered before they actually started making the correct guns. Big fan of the black ops builds btw
Now some of the early 723s had a1 uppers as far as I remember.
@@pinkeypie1966 yes some were built with a1 uppers that were left over, just like how 733’s can be a1, c7 or a2 but most still don’t really consider those 723 pattern when it’s not built on a c7 upper
@@cloneordie3828 huh ok. so psa isnt really wrong, but the c7 was more common?
@@pinkeypie1966 psa was just in a rush to get guns to the market to fill the retro gap before the c7’s were available and calling something a 723 so people would buy it for their bhd build even though it really was not really the correct gun for that era. Colt was lazy and often built commercial guns with what they have left over from government contacts it’s why so many civilian guns were sp1’s. The overwhelming vast majority of 723’s are c7 uppers with m4 profile barrels and generally this is what is considered a 723 in the clone community. Skinny barrels and a1 uppers are typically for 653’s or civilian guns
in platoon he shot him with a chinese AK...
It was reference to the scene where Sergeant Barnes shoots Elias with the 653 carbine the specific scene you were referring to was the last scene where Charlie Sheen's character kills Barnes with the AK.
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