@@karans6762 I forget I think it was a frostbite but I could just be lying to you just look up VoiD Nairo smash 4 and look at the end of the sets it’s gotta be one of the top 3 results
>Be Void >Coney says finals are Bo7 after game 1. "these games go quick" >Coney's chat demands a first to 5. Coney caves >Go up 4-1 over Spargo >didiwin.jpg >"No it's ft5 idiot" >Spargo reverse sweeps causing the set to run late >Miss what you thought was the final mafia game
It's a shame, my mind spins with the possibilities for customs Ultimate characters could've had. Might be obvious but Sora is one of the ones I wonder about the most (Reflega replacing Counter, Strike Raid or Ars Arcanum replacing Sonic Blade, Glide Up-B, it'd be stupid but fun lol) Honestly I'd say the biggest mistake with customs in Smash 4 is just how fucking impossible it is to get all of them. There's stuff like the AFK Target Blast thing but it really should have just been as simple as making it not possible to get ones you already have.
The most baffling thing to me is how hard they were to get. For one, I'd already question them being unlockable to start with because it's a big gameplay mechanic that took a buttload of time to animate and program, and they're harder to unlock than trophies and CDs (the already-established collectibles). At the risk of sounding ignorant about how devs think, I would imagine some devs on the Smash 4 team being pretty pissed to have this much work basically shelved and hidden.
@@ShyRanger making them unlockables was such strange old-school gaming choice for what was a modern era game, but if they weren't unlockables then they probably woulda been DLC lol
@@crooker23 You say lol but honestly, that sounds like it would've been better to me. 1. You'd just have them. As they are in now you're basically spending hours upon hours getting them, so it's time vs. money. 2. Sure, making custom moves DLC risks "pay to win" but even with them in the game, they were still banned after first EVO anyway, so it's not like them being in normally really fixed them. 3. Them not being in would've opened up time for other things in the main game release. Even if no new modes, characters, or stages got in, more trophies and maybe songs to collect might've been okay cause they're collectibles. And best case something of more substance like another mode, even small would be fine, and touching up characters and mechanics. 4. If they were DLC and sold well enough, that actually might've enticed them to stick around more than just being basically a Smash 4 in-game mechanic. So yeah, no joke, I think them as DLC would've been better.
That Riddles comment made me realize I forgot about a lot of autopick names in Smash. They've been doing it since Melee, and Nintendo is cool enough to actually include in-jokes like "NOJOHNS" "BARRELROLL" and "KETCHUP" also one of them is... "DADDY"
I don’t usually watch the smash stuff on Coney’s channel, but I can’t skip out on these custom matches. This goofy, chaotic stuff is what I love the most about smash bros.
Fun things like Spirits in Ulitmate and Customs in Smash 4 is always a great change up from the normal sweaty 1v1s that we normally have. Let's people both be a bit competitive and also have lots of fun. Skyjay somehow just getting all the grappler like customs which was fun to see since his main is Incineroar. RIP Void missing out on what was supposed to be the final Mafia.
@@twelvevoltage Subspace got old after playing it once and the general 4 player / 8 player smash experience is far inferior to Smash 4's options of random customs and more stupid modes. The only thing that Brawl has over Smash 4 in this regard is 1 HP Stamina mode battles
i love how they just decided that for one of marios custom neutral b they just decided to give hi a gun. that fire effect isn't fooling anyone, with how these "fireballs" move mario definitely just pulled out a glock and starts shooting at people
Next time you do this, you should give first place the chance to double their money or lose everything by taking on a challenge round, which would just be coney playing unnerfed bayo
You had Captain Falcon’s lightning kick infinite, Fox’s twisting Fox killing off the side at 40%, Mario/Dr Mario/Luigi fireball spam cancer, and then lots of other silly moves I don’t remember atm
This is the greatest and most based tourney of all time. I miss customs. Added so much life and flavor to amiibo and casual play that I just don't get in Ult.
Still miss cuatom moves, the stats system can suck it but custom moves were my favorite part of the game as a purely casual player, when they were deconfirmed for Ultimate I honestly cried a bit.
Man I loved custom moves/stats. They're such a cool idea for casual play. The ridiculous thing is that I had hundreds of hours in 3ds Smash, and I still never got all of the moves... My dream is to have them return (at least in a small capacity), but I have a feeling that will never happen
My dream idea is for them to rework Customs entirely by tying them into alternate coustumes. With a setting that would turn them off of course. It would simultaneously force them to come up with cooler alternate costumes and more balanced but still sick custom moves.
Man I love seeing all the playing just laughing their asses off and chatting while playing, this is the kind of stuff that makes people fans of players
Dude wtf, hasn't anyone tried the custom moves ever? In single player modes you used to earn a lot of them every time you did anything, they were impossible to ignore and these pros were barely discovering a lot of them 💀
I get why competitive people didn't like the special moves & equipment in Smash 4. But my god was it fun for casual play, so pissed they didn't bring it back for Ultimate. The amount of people I saw complain about special moves in Smash 4 was wild because it was a completely optional feature, if you didn't like it, you didn't have to use it, but no, people always gotta complain and we lose cool features cause of it.
I was going to make a comment about Brawl but like.... At least Brawls problems are just a few very bad choices, Smash 4 was a series of ongoing bad ideas.
The chatter saying “I’ve seen VoiD lose these” with max rage ZSS on the screen is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
💀
I WAS THINKING THE SAME SHIT BRO THE NAIRO SET WAS WAY TOO FUNNY 😂😂
@@lagspike7763 Which set?
@@karans6762 I forget I think it was a frostbite but I could just be lying to you just look up VoiD Nairo smash 4 and look at the end of the sets it’s gotta be one of the top 3 results
I love it how these pro smash players just walk in and hang out like they're at their friends house.
How do you think competitive Smash Bros got its start?
2nd
rip smash summit :(
they pretty much are, they arent celebrities lmao
me when i figure out smash players are people too
>Be Void
>Coney says finals are Bo7 after game 1. "these games go quick"
>Coney's chat demands a first to 5. Coney caves
>Go up 4-1 over Spargo
>didiwin.jpg
>"No it's ft5 idiot"
>Spargo reverse sweeps causing the set to run late
>Miss what you thought was the final mafia game
accurate
least unfortunate day as void
Coney's Customs sounds like a legit automobile modding company
Dead on, sounds like a GTA car shop
Best mod shop of the midwest
@@DrSwazz ah yes, the very Midwest state of Maryland
Koney Kustom Kompetition
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 Kalm down, King K. Rool
So glad we have an event that acknowledges the pure comedy that is big doc pill
Can agree that doc mario is pure comedy
That and the rising spin animation makes him a complete wizard.
“The pill? Oh I _hate_ the pill”
It's a suppository
Open up its time for the pill.
Custom moves were the coolest idea for a smash game but there’s no way in hell they’ll do it again
It's a shame, my mind spins with the possibilities for customs Ultimate characters could've had. Might be obvious but Sora is one of the ones I wonder about the most (Reflega replacing Counter, Strike Raid or Ars Arcanum replacing Sonic Blade, Glide Up-B, it'd be stupid but fun lol)
Honestly I'd say the biggest mistake with customs in Smash 4 is just how fucking impossible it is to get all of them. There's stuff like the AFK Target Blast thing but it really should have just been as simple as making it not possible to get ones you already have.
I never played smash 4. Really wish ultimate had them. Seemed very fun for casual play
The most baffling thing to me is how hard they were to get. For one, I'd already question them being unlockable to start with because it's a big gameplay mechanic that took a buttload of time to animate and program, and they're harder to unlock than trophies and CDs (the already-established collectibles). At the risk of sounding ignorant about how devs think, I would imagine some devs on the Smash 4 team being pretty pissed to have this much work basically shelved and hidden.
@@ShyRanger making them unlockables was such strange old-school gaming choice for what was a modern era game, but if they weren't unlockables then they probably woulda been DLC lol
@@crooker23 You say lol but honestly, that sounds like it would've been better to me.
1. You'd just have them. As they are in now you're basically spending hours upon hours getting them, so it's time vs. money.
2. Sure, making custom moves DLC risks "pay to win" but even with them in the game, they were still banned after first EVO anyway, so it's not like them being in normally really fixed them.
3. Them not being in would've opened up time for other things in the main game release. Even if no new modes, characters, or stages got in, more trophies and maybe songs to collect might've been okay cause they're collectibles. And best case something of more substance like another mode, even small would be fine, and touching up characters and mechanics.
4. If they were DLC and sold well enough, that actually might've enticed them to stick around more than just being basically a Smash 4 in-game mechanic.
So yeah, no joke, I think them as DLC would've been better.
Lui$ winning the Skyjay best of 3 only for it to change to a best of 5 and get reverse 3-0ed is so fucking funny man
Even though it was just memeing with Customs, you don’t know how happy it made me seeing Sm4sh VoiD’s Sheik vs Marss’ ZSS in 2023
That Riddles comment made me realize I forgot about a lot of autopick names in Smash. They've been doing it since Melee, and Nintendo is cool enough to actually include in-jokes like "NOJOHNS" "BARRELROLL" and "KETCHUP"
also one of them is... "DADDY"
Sorry WHAT
Also what is the ketchup tag a reference to lol
@@DrSwazz it's probably a reference to zero as it was his tag
@@donaldcreswell4915 ???? You got it backwards. ZeRo used that tag because it was an autopick name.
@@FSLink oh i didnt know
I feel so bad for Void, missed the bag and the final mafia game
Well...He did get revenge on Sparg0 in bracket the next day
27:30 that synchronised drink sip was way too satisfying
They’ve entered the flow state
Can't tell me humans don't be hiveminding at least a little bit
Spargo looks like he’s having so much fun the whole time I love it
Riddles too I love that boy
12:05
Siblings "I barely touched you" proceeds to get 55%
Summary of Smash 4 Custom Moves:
“What even was that move?!”
“What the hell is happening?!”
“OH, now I’m glowing!”
I don’t usually watch the smash stuff on Coney’s channel, but I can’t skip out on these custom matches. This goofy, chaotic stuff is what I love the most about smash bros.
Can’t believe Coney RUINED Void’s summit forever…at least he got the runback where it really mattered in bracket on Sunday.
Fun things like Spirits in Ulitmate and Customs in Smash 4 is always a great change up from the normal sweaty 1v1s that we normally have.
Let's people both be a bit competitive and also have lots of fun.
Skyjay somehow just getting all the grappler like customs which was fun to see since his main is Incineroar.
RIP Void missing out on what was supposed to be the final Mafia.
This game was never meant to be taken seriously, this was peak party game Smash
What makes you put this over brawl(I'm a melee player so I'm just curious) I enjoyed subspace but wii u did let you have more players than 4
@@twelvevoltage Subspace got old after playing it once and the general 4 player / 8 player smash experience is far inferior to Smash 4's options of random customs and more stupid modes. The only thing that Brawl has over Smash 4 in this regard is 1 HP Stamina mode battles
@@Evan-mt7bctbf Singleplayer wise subspace is better than that shitty board game
Smash 4 at the time felt completely normal as my first smash game. Coming back to it after playing Ultimate feels like a fever dream
Coneys secret mission to turn smashers into casuals i approve
The only way to make Smash 4 fun is to play it casually.
custom moves were the best casual thing to be added to smash and im so sad they gave up on them so soon, imagine ultimate characters with new movesets
I forgot customs isn't only custom specials tbh... totally forgot about the stats system...
i love how they just decided that for one of marios custom neutral b they just decided to give hi a gun. that fire effect isn't fooling anyone, with how these "fireballs" move mario definitely just pulled out a glock and starts shooting at people
I mean that is original the concept for the Fire flower
Its confirmed. Coney is the funniest guy in smash
Next time you do this, you should give first place the chance to double their money or lose everything by taking on a challenge round, which would just be coney playing unnerfed bayo
27:18 Best ult modder is Vishera but not sure if he's still doing stuff
I promise you there's a Hikaru clip that looks EXACTLY like 17:32 DK was just like that
I think this is what Masahiro Sakurai meant Smash Bros to be like. To be played for fun.
Its really fun hearing the player mic, and just how everyone is reacting. Would love to see this in more content/events.
I really wish custom specials was tournament legal in Smash 4
Watching this dawned on me how many of players I've never heard speak
Agree
I miss Smash 4 so much. Unironically my fav Smash game. So sad it had to die
sometimes i wonder what Smash 4 wouldve been like if customs were super easy to unlock and legal in tournament cause this is super entertaining
We started with customs legal and it was the worst thing ever. They are simply too broken to be a functional format. It’s really funny tho.
You had Captain Falcon’s lightning kick infinite, Fox’s twisting Fox killing off the side at 40%, Mario/Dr Mario/Luigi fireball spam cancer, and then lots of other silly moves I don’t remember atm
There were a few good customs but generally a lot of them ended up being doo doo butter
I'm gonna miss Coney getting to do wacky stuff like this at Summit. Hopefully there will be new opportunities for this kind of stuff in the future.
This was a great idea, Smash 4 customs can be ridiculous and it was nice to see y'all just chumming it up!
I knew he'd do one of these one day, so exited for this, custom specials are so fun and fucky it's amazing!!
Idk if I've ever seen sparg0 look so happy 😭
I’ve never seen Spargo smile before
This is the greatest and most based tourney of all time.
I miss customs. Added so much life and flavor to amiibo and casual play that I just don't get in Ult.
It is terrifying to me that Smash 4 was 4 years old whenever Smash Ultimate came out, and Smash Ultimate is now 4 years old
I forgot about Marss being the TV and penguin slayer 😂
Now this is the kind of competitive smash I can appreciate... XD
God I miss customs, they were so much fun. As much as I want them in Ult however, they would be BUSTED.
89 characters in ultimate, 8 additional custom moves per character. That means 712 extra moves to design lol
@@DrSwazz Sure but if they end up making Ultimate Deluxe it's kind of the only real direction to go.
i hadn't seen pinkfresh in forever and damn the years all fell on my back lol coney looks the same as he did in brawl somehow
Spargo wanting that money so bad 😂😂😂
Smash 4 just feels like a prototype for Ultimate to me.
This concept is sick, would 100% watch more of this.
Still miss cuatom moves, the stats system can suck it but custom moves were my favorite part of the game as a purely casual player, when they were deconfirmed for Ultimate I honestly cried a bit.
The most fun Smash 4 tourney I have ever watched.
Man I loved custom moves/stats. They're such a cool idea for casual play. The ridiculous thing is that I had hundreds of hours in 3ds Smash, and I still never got all of the moves...
My dream is to have them return (at least in a small capacity), but I have a feeling that will never happen
My dream idea is for them to rework Customs entirely by tying them into alternate coustumes. With a setting that would turn them off of course. It would simultaneously force them to come up with cooler alternate costumes and more balanced but still sick custom moves.
Swear to God coney this better be clickbait, Smash 4 was goated
it was cheese central but it was also the first smash game i competed in so it will always hold a special place in my heart.
Man I love seeing all the playing just laughing their asses off and chatting while playing, this is the kind of stuff that makes people fans of players
Love seeing you lot goof around and having some fun. Amazing video as always Coney :)
I was just watching old Coney videos this was perfect timing
Still amazing to come back to
Easily one of the best silly smash events
7:29 I wish Riddles would have answered that question with “That’s the riddle!”
27:29 synchronized gamer sip
Dude wtf, hasn't anyone tried the custom moves ever? In single player modes you used to earn a lot of them every time you did anything, they were impossible to ignore and these pros were barely discovering a lot of them 💀
it took forever to unlock all of them, and they were banned from tournaments super early on
Good to see Lui$ and Skyjay being bros
Skyjay is bros with literally everyone on the planet
Where’s the revival smash 4 custom moves tournies with 1 move bans in each matchup
"here we go!" got me dead 24:32
I get why competitive people didn't like the special moves & equipment in Smash 4. But my god was it fun for casual play, so pissed they didn't bring it back for Ultimate. The amount of people I saw complain about special moves in Smash 4 was wild because it was a completely optional feature, if you didn't like it, you didn't have to use it, but no, people always gotta complain and we lose cool features cause of it.
13:36 Nothin personnel kid
You can't do true random Spirits in Smash Ultimate. It always selects one of the strongest loadouts you have.
Custom moves were absolutely broken
I loved SPARO lmao
I like when spargo popped off
During main bracket void must’ve remembered this smash 4 set
Imagine if Doc could move like that in ultimate
I want that boomerang in the main game!
Is Brawl 2 generally considered to be a worse game than Brawl 1 or Brawl 3?
Rosalina with custom moves looks so fun
It looks CHEESY
I think ganons side B should be the same as ult, but if you hold up it sends in that direction
And void took that personally
I forgot how wacky Sm4sh was. This contest was bananas!
Doesn't matter what the competitive side is like, Smash is always a top tier party game experience
Why is Sm4sh being played? I read worst game so i expected the absolute Glitchfest that is Melee
forgot how much better shulk's and ryu's face texture are in this game
I can't believe void and sparg0 lost mafia because of sm4sh
GimR looks like Tate broke out of prison just to watch a Smash tournament.
Coney really do be the goat making this stuff.
Coney’s BAHAHA laugh never gets old
Bro how many middrole adds do you need my guy
Alright before even watching the 5,000 dimes is a great bit
Im glad you forgived Marss.
Man Smash 4 looks so slow after years of Ultimate
7:29 - 7:45 Riddles' name origin? cool
My doc patch adams, your doc mr pib
Smash 4 > Ultimate
Oh my god I need more of this
Void lost in grands so he could win the run back in final bracket what a Chad 😎
nintedo would never take this video down
How do I still have friends who try to tell me this game’s better than Ultimate 🤦🏼♂️
where can I find the full vod for this? Couldn't find it in the side events playlist on the BTS channel
Nice to see disguisedtoast compete in smash bros now
I was going to make a comment about Brawl but like.... At least Brawls problems are just a few very bad choices, Smash 4 was a series of ongoing bad ideas.
why was walter white in the background after the very first game
Spargo popped off as yoshi 🎉
I'm sad this is the one Smash game I never played...
>calls SSB4 the "worst smash game ever released"
>Brawl exists
🤨
Brawl was fun at least
@@NOTCOLEADA Implying that ssb4 isn't...?