Roman Military Standards
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History of Roman Military Standards
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Rome TV series by HBO (2005-2007)
Barbarians Rising (2016)
Ben Hur (2016)
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Courier: "I was in the 19th Legion with Varus in Germania, Caesar..."
Augustus: "Was? Have you been transferred?"
*Top 10 moments before Absolute Rage*
It must have been so great when someone was in a tough fight to see the reinforcements' shining eagle in the distance.
The Draco is prolly my favorite Roman standard. The idea just is creative & looks sick. Another great video.
The draco really makes me think of Chinese kites. It's interesting to imagine what a Roman cavalry charge would have looked like with these long beasts flying above the riders.
The dracos were kind of a staple of eastern cavalries. Romans got them from sarmatians. It'd be interesting to trace their origins
@@RomabooRamblings Nobody knows exactly from where Romans adopted it.There are at least 3 obvious candidates(sarmatians among them).There are at least 4 original Roman sources mentioning origin of standart.None of them attribute it to Dacians but all say that it originates in the east(although mentioned speciffic people are not always the same).
Roman Standard: *Exists*
Barbarians: "So, anyway, we started stealing"
Germanicus and Claudius: "Not on our turn..."
I'm curious what the duties of a standard bearer would have been. Surely they can't have been high ranking double-paid officers for just holding a big stick. Was it a kind of training/shadowing position, given out nepotistically so people could be close to the commander to learn the trade? Were they expected to be good orators, inspiring with speech as much as symbol? Was there a religious significance, perhaps? Were they expected to fight, or to keep a distance from combat, and if they were expected to fight, then how?
I imagine few of these questions have answers, but I'm curious nonetheless.
I'd love to see more videos on these niche military topics, rather than battles and equipment like so many others. Were there precursors to modern medics or chaplains? What about the instrument-players we see depicted in media ("Gaius, something more cheerful") - were they real, were they a dedicated position, or were people asked to pull double duty? Where on Earth did Republican Rome import all those wolf heads from to arm the Vexilarii?!
This was a good video. A mix of common knowledge and less known detail. Well done!
Yeah, my bad, the aquiliferi were in charge of soldier pay and mb some other stuff which I can't remember off the top of my head. On a topic of military-adjacent stuff, I did plan a video on Augustus' army medical corp.
also, :lizistyping:
Awesome video. Also would love to know more about military awards, decorations, and the duties of signifiers
Funny thing about the Chi Rho. It doubles as symbol for Christ and as a Greek mark for "good", typically written in margins of books/scrolls to denote a passage worth reading. Carrying the Chi Rho into battle works for both the Christian and pagan soldiers in Constantine's army, as both would see it as a sign of good luck.
And also a solar symbol.And many soldiers were adherents of solar cults-including Constantine until he started to identify Sol with Christ.
Source ?
@@pierren___ Not sure who you ask but what VerilyViscous wrote is also correct.
@@paprskomet i think it happened after christianisation
@@pierren___ What you mean exactly?The sign itself already had a very long history prior Christianity started to use it as its symbol with new symbolic meaning(letter Chi and Rho being 1st two letters of "Christos" in greek).As for what I read so far it is not attested in Christain use and sense until Constantine and the battle of Milvian bridge though.
Dude you need more views man. You, Maiorianus and Spectrum are all tied in my mind as the best Roman Empire channels atm. Fantastic shit
I’ve basically been living of those three channels lately. Historian’s craft also has some good stuff on Rome.
It was fascinating and lowkey funny to find out that these signifers and aquilifers were actually the chief accountants of their cohorts
Ever since, I can't get the image of an aquilifer marching into battle with full pomp and gear while tallying up his spreadsheets to find out who spent the extra 70 sestertii from the month's budget
Kicks your ass and does your taxes . Properly badass
My favorite is the flag of brazil, they knew who was number 1!
Words can scarcely express how much I love your content!
I heard that the Draco standard had a secondary function of showing the wind's direction for archers iirc
Such is the theory but it is nowhere recorded in preserved texts.Usually it is just said that Draco perhaps originated among nomadic tribes of Euro-asia as an instrument to discover wind direction to make archery as effective as possible.
How did a Roman flag, found in Egypt, end up in Russia?
good question
The Russian empire claimed to be the third Rome, so I imagine they wanted it badly. Probably bought it off the guy who dug it up, or one of their archeologists dug it up and presented it to the Tzar.
@@darthhoovy8332 That it eventually ended in Russia has nothing to do with their artificial concept of 3rd Rome.
@@paprskomet I see. Well I’ll have to look in to it.
Russia is the 3rd Rome. Land of art and culture.
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Soldier: "A thousand pardons, Caesar, but our men have not painted on the stands the sign you ordered. They fear that it may provoke the wrath of the Gods..."
Constantine: "BULLSH*T! LEAVE IT TO ME!" *Paints a Greek cross on a standard* "See?! Jupiter has not unleashed his wrath against..." *Gets burned to death by Lightning*
Keep up, man. Love your videos, I believe they're among the best Ancient Rome videos on the platform.
Are you going to do the Roman names video from the Byzantine period?
Yep, sometime next month
@@RomabooRamblings you’re awesome! Thank you for the amazing videos!
Are you going to continue the series on Nikephoros Phokas, or is it already finished?
I will once I get to 15k
Did you ever make that video on eastern roman military standards?
i could also see the wolf being with the triarii as a symbol of rome itself as the she wolf that suckled Romulus and Remus
Well this was interesting
Did fleets/ Classiarius Milites use Vexillum's or Eagle standards for Marine operations?
Each ship had its own vxillum.
@@paprskomet Are there any examples of this?
@@VaGTaSter69 Since I am long time interrested in Roman Vexilla I have to say that there are unfortunately very little preserved depictions of Vexilla on ships-espicially in color.Those preserved in color are showing just simple one colored piece of cloth without any text or decoration(I discovered one which actually used 3 different colors but I"ve lost that mosaic).Blue colored vexillum was given as a special reward to Agrippa for his naval victories but that was just form of military decoration(vexilla as a form of honorific reward were given also to land troops)though its blue color was speciffically becaouse of its association with water. Strategikon says that each ship should have its own regular standard on its masthead to make it clear which commander is in command.It mentions elsewhere that personal standards of Commanders(at the time of Strategikon old style Vexilla started to be replaced by new banners who already looked much more like modern flags so called Banda who were suspended verically not horizontaly like Vexilla)should be particularly distinctive and conspicuous so they can be recognised from a great distance.From land used Vexilla we know that commanders used as decoration of their personal Vexillum for example their own image,but also their name rendered in letters.Vexilla of units used to be decorated mainly with letters(stating name of unit and sometimes that of its commanding officer),images or simple geometric symbols.
@@paprskomet Good info! Thanks! Another question, did auxillery marines use them as well? I have a men at arms book depicting the many different Classiarii Milites and I think Marines themselves would also carry them onto land in the event of a shore based land battle?
Was there a command or was something said when the standard was raised? "Signa sunt!" perhaps lol.
Several commands are attested from late 6th century Roman military manual Strategikon.Though we can't be sure how much it is relevant for earkier times such command had no particular need to by greatly altered with time so it might esily be they are exactly the same as used even much earlier.
interesting
Your channel is great
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Such a underrated Channel. Hope It gets huge. Awesome job my man.
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What a wonderful summary of these images and military positions. I shared it with others at our website. Thank you
When the winged draconiferii arrived. Paying attention to what the source said about the dragons making noise i am pretty much sure they were at least in some part used as a mean to break morale of the enemy by making the horsemen appear more numerous than they were in reality, similarly to one of proposed uses of the hussar wings
Draconarii not Draconiferrii.And there were no "winged Draconarii".Moreover this standart was also used by infantry not only cavalry.Some Draco standards could produce sound which might have some moral effect but others were constructed in a way that they could not give any sound.
@@paprskomet i made a bastardasation of this word by mixing draco with greek "phoros" by accident. Winged that draco might have not been, but Sabaton reference was right there for the taking, as I already expressed in conecting it with the winged hussars
Please do a video on why rome is so popular
AVE!! Good depth of Historical prelude, then solid follow-through with the significance.
Fantastic video! Much appreciated, since being a vexiliarius ;)
Interesting
beautifiul and informative video but....
in hoc signo vinces doesnt mean with this sign conquers...no it means with this sign win
Except "conquer" also means "win" in english.
@@paprskomet conquer means you gained something trough conquest
win means you just...win without conquer stuff
and since constatine (at least to my informations...) never added any territory to the empire and in latin "vinces" means literally "wins"
so the english translation is technicaly wrong
and the italian one is correct cause here we say that god told constatine "con questo segno vinci" which means with this sign wins
@@davidelabarile1634 You still didn't get it,so once again and think about it this time:in english "conquer" also means "win" not only "conquer" like defeating someone as you understood it.And by the way Constantine actually did added some territory to the Empire-he basically re-conquered Trajanic Dacia although Romans left this area to its destiny again soon afterwards.
Love these videos
Do you have videos on another platform? Because ads featuring blacks selling products I'll never ever buy preceding or interrupting your videos is aggravating.
You shouldn't be getting mid-roll adds on my videos. I don't have them on other platforms yet
This sh1t is everywhere. In Switzerland, you can't see an ad without a Batango N'Golo in it, or promoting multiculturalism.
You don't see this sh1t in Italy or Russia.
Lmao
Standards are the better version of flags. Its unfortunate they got forgotten for the rectangle tricolor garbage.
Gonna go make a new sportswear brand called the Triplex Acies