I was trying to explain in another video that Inoue doesn't have half of Pacquiao's resume, so of course, Pacquiao took more L's. I doubt anyone would go through Manny's career undefeated. Inoue would probably take more defeats on the way if he had to go through Manny's career. Just because I don't think he's built to fight effectively above 130/5. He probably loses every big fight Manny had above 135. Then, below 135, Manny fought Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. All three of those guys are better than prime/peak Donaire, let alone the Donaire that Inoue had to fight in the first fight, which is his best opponent. Inoue probably takes a few loses there, too. The hardcore Inoue fans, of course, attacked me lol, but I wasn't saying Inoue isn't a great fighter. Pacquiao just had an insane resume. Bob Arum is just doing what he has to though, which is to promote his current fighter. It's not a bad thing, but people can't get mad if someone gives a breakdown of theur careers. Not just fanboy it.
The Tank fans expecting Inoue to come up to 135 say they're around the same height and reach, that makes it a fair fight, but they don't expect Fundora to fight Wilder and they're a similar height with a similar reach. They're also the ones who claimed that 6 foot Charlo was smaller than 5 foot 7 Canelo... So is it height and reach that matters?
There are very few more legendary than Manny. So far Inoue is making a great account of himself but his career is far from over. Manny has the names and Inoue could stand to land bigger names on his resume. Inoue has time to be more legendary but he is already a legend
While everyone is debating whether or not anything Inoue will do with his career will ever match Manny’s 8-div champ run, I’m over here thinking Inoue can be a 6-div champ (108, 115, 118, 122, 126, 130) 3x undisputed (118, 122, 126) within the next 4-5 years, all while maintaining his ever-growing championship fight streak (24 in a row, starting tonight). If or when he can pull it off, that’s just as impressive as being 8-div champ imo. And honestly, I’d be glad if both fighters are legends in their own way. If that’s a hot take, then I guess it’s a hot take.
Manny’s career wasnt defined by his wins but his losses, the amount of redemption story and getting to the point of being a winner. Thats what makes him 100x - champion in front of many people’s eyes bec they can relate to hardships/struggles of one person. Way way diff from Inoue
Arum always over exaggerates on Fighter's in the now to downplay some from yesterday. Pacquiao is legendary & 8 divisions has never been done. Inoue is great but his career not better than Manny's
Pacquiao never become a Unified Champion, he tried 3 times but he lost and 2 draw. Arum knows how he did to Pacquiao. He chooses weakest and out of prime Champion in every division and arrange for Pacquiao. FACTS
@@nilo.niezki5843 WRONG! PAC FOUGHT MANNY PRIME OPONNENTS NAMELY: MARQUEZ, COTTO, HATTON, BARRERA, MORALES, LEDWABA, MARGARITO, COTTO, RIOS, CLOTTEY, DAVID DIAZ, BRADLEY, THURMAN, AND THE LISTS GOES ON. SOMETHING INOUE DOES NOT HAVE IN HIS RESUME! YES INOUE IS A TWO TIME UNDISPUTED CHAMP BUT HE DID IT AGAINST LOW CALIBER OPONNENTS. PAC BEAT ALL THE BEST IN HIS DIVISION. THE ONLY 8 DIVISION CHAMP, THE OLDEST WELTERWEREIGHT CHAMP AT THE AGE OF 40, WON FIGHTER OF THE YEAR, FIGHTER OF THE DECADE.. SKILLWISE, PAC AND INOUE ARE EQUAL BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESUME, PACQUIAO'S IS WAY BETTER THAN INOUE'S.
Both started at 108. So imagine Inoue beating Navarrete, Tank, Teo, and Spence and really crushing them. That’s what Manny did and that’s not even half of what the did. And to be fair to Inoue, he did say “nahhhhhh bro” after Bob said that lol.
Team Norman is pulling a Caleb Plant. They want to hold out and be the last belt for undisputed. There’s also a fresh crop of fighters with some profile that should be making their way to 147 so he may be in the mix that wayx
People are so quick to call fighters legends or ATG’s these days when they haven’t proven anything yet. It used to get under my skin how they called Tyson Fury an ATG, hall of famer, better than Ali. It’s crazy.
Great topic!! Manny with tons of weight classes but not as prolificly dominating in his weight classes, but fought a ton of big names. Inuoe 2x undisputed in 2 weight classes is...unheard of. Its about even now but 6 or 7 more fights will close the conflict 🎉
As a huge fan of both inoue and pacquiao, I'd say inoue has a long way to go in comparison to pacquiao...however, other than canelo, I can't think of any recent or current fighters who's had a greater career than pacquiao
Nope, he looks good because he is fighting class C fighter, it is like in chess, if you play against low elo opponent, your positioning, fundamentals looks good, when you play against your level, that is the time the fight goes either way, when you play against higher elo that's the time you look like an amateur.
@ I understand the analogy and you could be right…saying that, were you high on Fulton before he fought Inoue? All he can do is beat everyone available. He only has Akhmadaliev left to beat and he’s cleaned out yet another division.
pacquiao started at the same weight division as inoue and ended several divisions above where inoue campaigns at. i definitely could NOT see inoue beating Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto...
Pacquiao tried to become Unified Champion 3 times but he lost and 2 draw. Arum choose the weakest and out of prime Champion in every division and arrange for Pacquiao. He never beat a Champion in his division
@@nilo.niezki5843yea youre clearly emotional he tried to unify in divisions he shouldn’t have been in for his dimensions and the weight he started but sure lmao
I think B norman is underrated I’m not sold on all three of the other champs being better even boots I think norman can crack harder than all them so I wanna see those fights 🤷🏾♂️ but you right bet not lose to that dude #CrawfordEra
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“Wake up and smell the mediocrity “ is crazy work😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hennessey a baddie 😮
Crazy how Brian Norman SR is main eventing a card before Brian Norman JR😂😂😂
Ring IQ.
You SLAY Me with that Uncle Bob impression!!
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I was trying to explain in another video that Inoue doesn't have half of Pacquiao's resume, so of course, Pacquiao took more L's. I doubt anyone would go through Manny's career undefeated. Inoue would probably take more defeats on the way if he had to go through Manny's career. Just because I don't think he's built to fight effectively above 130/5. He probably loses every big fight Manny had above 135. Then, below 135, Manny fought Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. All three of those guys are better than prime/peak Donaire, let alone the Donaire that Inoue had to fight in the first fight, which is his best opponent. Inoue probably takes a few loses there, too. The hardcore Inoue fans, of course, attacked me lol, but I wasn't saying Inoue isn't a great fighter. Pacquiao just had an insane resume.
Bob Arum is just doing what he has to though, which is to promote his current fighter. It's not a bad thing, but people can't get mad if someone gives a breakdown of theur careers. Not just fanboy it.
You don’t need any sound effects to enhance the sound of the Monsters punches, sheesh! Dude is a beast for sure.
Remember when Bob said Lomachenko was the best since Ali? He’s a promoter, can’t be too mad at him for trying to promote 🤷🏾♂️
I nearly shit myself with the “…………greatest fighter I seen since Muhammad Ali” bobs voice 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Arum is just selling his product, nothing wrong with that. PBC heads used to call Wilder greater than Ali 😂
He used to call Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns the greatest welters of all time back in the day too.
The Tank fans expecting Inoue to come up to 135 say they're around the same height and reach, that makes it a fair fight, but they don't expect Fundora to fight Wilder and they're a similar height with a similar reach.
They're also the ones who claimed that 6 foot Charlo was smaller than 5 foot 7 Canelo... So is it height and reach that matters?
Pacquiao never unified? Sheesh. Looking at his resume, you would have never guessed.
Fran Hennessy can't be seen with her horrible ringwalk dancing. That's what Shalom is getting at.
There are very few more legendary than Manny. So far Inoue is making a great account of himself but his career is far from over. Manny has the names and Inoue could stand to land bigger names on his resume. Inoue has time to be more legendary but he is already a legend
He will sweep 126 and will make y mexican countrymen cry again 😅
While everyone is debating whether or not anything Inoue will do with his career will ever match Manny’s 8-div champ run, I’m over here thinking Inoue can be a 6-div champ (108, 115, 118, 122, 126, 130) 3x undisputed (118, 122, 126) within the next 4-5 years, all while maintaining his ever-growing championship fight streak (24 in a row, starting tonight). If or when he can pull it off, that’s just as impressive as being 8-div champ imo. And honestly, I’d be glad if both fighters are legends in their own way.
If that’s a hot take, then I guess it’s a hot take.
as a Strayan, I suppose J you’re allowed to say “us Brits” 😉
If Inoue, the definitive A-Side, would maybe say
Have to meet at 133 and rehydrate no more than 140
I wonder who would have fits about that LOL
Manny’s career wasnt defined by his wins but his losses, the amount of redemption story and getting to the point of being a winner. Thats what makes him 100x - champion in front of many people’s eyes bec they can relate to hardships/struggles of one person. Way way diff from Inoue
Shannon courteney has retired gents. Shes done and you'll never see her again.
Arum always over exaggerates on Fighter's in the now to downplay some from yesterday. Pacquiao is legendary & 8 divisions has never been done. Inoue is great but his career not better than Manny's
Inoue career is already great but not better then Pacquiao's yet.
Pacquiao never become a Unified Champion, he tried 3 times but he lost and 2 draw. Arum knows how he did to Pacquiao. He chooses weakest and out of prime Champion in every division and arrange for Pacquiao. FACTS
Bob should be taken back to the geriatric ward so that he can be given his medicine regularly.
@TAM.w39 🤣
@@nilo.niezki5843 WRONG! PAC FOUGHT MANNY PRIME OPONNENTS NAMELY: MARQUEZ, COTTO, HATTON, BARRERA, MORALES, LEDWABA, MARGARITO, COTTO, RIOS, CLOTTEY, DAVID DIAZ, BRADLEY, THURMAN, AND THE LISTS GOES ON. SOMETHING INOUE DOES NOT HAVE IN HIS RESUME! YES INOUE IS A TWO TIME UNDISPUTED CHAMP BUT HE DID IT AGAINST LOW CALIBER OPONNENTS. PAC BEAT ALL THE BEST IN HIS DIVISION. THE ONLY 8 DIVISION CHAMP, THE OLDEST WELTERWEREIGHT CHAMP AT THE AGE OF 40, WON FIGHTER OF THE YEAR, FIGHTER OF THE DECADE.. SKILLWISE, PAC AND INOUE ARE EQUAL BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESUME, PACQUIAO'S IS WAY BETTER THAN INOUE'S.
Us brits 😅😅😅😅😅 i thought Julez was japanese
Both started at 108. So imagine Inoue beating Navarrete, Tank, Teo, and Spence and really crushing them. That’s what Manny did and that’s not even half of what the did. And to be fair to Inoue, he did say “nahhhhhh bro” after Bob said that lol.
Team Norman is pulling a Caleb Plant. They want to hold out and be the last belt for undisputed. There’s also a fresh crop of fighters with some profile that should be making their way to 147 so he may be in the mix that wayx
People are so quick to call fighters legends or ATG’s these days when they haven’t proven anything yet. It used to get under my skin how they called Tyson Fury an ATG, hall of famer, better than Ali. It’s crazy.
Great topic!! Manny with tons of weight classes but not as prolificly dominating in his weight classes, but fought a ton of big names. Inuoe 2x undisputed in 2 weight classes is...unheard of. Its about even now but 6 or 7 more fights will close the conflict 🎉
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I agree. Inoue was an average sized bantam weight at best. Decent hieght at bantam but a small frame
He said the same when he said loma was way better than Ali and lomas fanboys ran with that
As a huge fan of both inoue and pacquiao, I'd say inoue has a long way to go in comparison to pacquiao...however, other than canelo, I can't think of any recent or current fighters who's had a greater career than pacquiao
Manny has had the greater career to date but Inoue is technically a better fighter IMO.
Nope, he looks good because he is fighting class C fighter, it is like in chess, if you play against low elo opponent, your positioning, fundamentals looks good, when you play against your level, that is the time the fight goes either way, when you play against higher elo that's the time you look like an amateur.
@ I understand the analogy and you could be right…saying that, were you high on Fulton before he fought Inoue? All he can do is beat everyone available. He only has Akhmadaliev left to beat and he’s cleaned out yet another division.
The problem is, Inoue has not done the great things as Pac man. At least imo, I guess it’s subjective
pacquiao started at the same weight division as inoue and ended several divisions above where inoue campaigns at. i definitely could NOT see inoue beating Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto...
So why didn’t he go undisputed?
Pacquiao could be 3X undisputed (122, 126, 130) but he never give it a try...
Pacquiao tried to become Unified Champion 3 times but he lost and 2 draw. Arum choose the weakest and out of prime Champion in every division and arrange for Pacquiao. He never beat a Champion in his division
@@nilo.niezki5843yea youre clearly emotional he tried to unify in divisions he shouldn’t have been in for his dimensions and the weight he started but sure lmao
@ okay so why won't inoue be in 8 divisions?
I love Inoue, but steady on, he's not there yet most likely never will be as great as he is technically way better than Manny, but Pac man was a freak
I think B norman is underrated I’m not sold on all three of the other champs being better even boots I think norman can crack harder than all them so I wanna see those fights 🤷🏾♂️ but you right bet not lose to that dude #CrawfordEra
If Inoue could defeat Crawford, I would believe that