Like what you see? Buy it here and support the channel! Atelier Sophie 2: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Dream Amazon: amzn.to/3zoU6Qo Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/atelier-sophie-2-the-alchemist-of-the-mysterious-dream?ref=backlogbattle Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age Amazon: amzn.to/45z21Iu GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/yRv3vV Fire Emblem Three Houses Amazon: amzn.to/3SKoCLn Octopath Traveler 2 Amazon: amzn.to/3Fx9zAq GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/jWoN5e Persona 5 / Royal Amazon: amzn.to/3P2ehvG Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/persona-5-royal?ref=backlogbattle Tales of Arise Amazon: amzn.to/42e2hvM GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/vnv39d Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/tales-of-arise?ref=backlogbattle Trails from Zero Amazon: amzn.to/3ZV2P8f GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/qnaz9L Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-from-zero?ref=backlogbattle Trails to Azure Amazon: amzn.to/3PA4LyS GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/DK0k0d Yakuza: Like A Dragon Amazon: amzn.to/448XwDC Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/yakuza-like-a-dragon?ref=backlogbattle Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana Amazon: amzn.to/3tayVhw GMG: greenmangaming.sjv.io/9WKNZ3 Fanatical: www.fanatical.com/en/game/ys-viii-lacrimosa-of-dana-viii-lacrimosa-of-dana?ref=backlogbattle
The Xenoblade trilogy, Star Ocean The Divine Force, the Blue Reflection series, NEO The World Ends With You, Pokemon Legends Arceus and so much more, it's just amazing to see my favorite genre thriving like this, and breaking through to mainstream attention as well!
@wingsofwinter2600 Honestly, what was the point of leaving such a negativity-filled comment? I like all the games you listed too (though I haven't played much SMT IV yet, and I dunno if I'd call Dark Souls modern per se) but you don't have put down something someone else likes to highlight something you like. We can both like things, I promise! xD Heck, some of the "cons" you listed about a few games are things I like about 'em.
I love how he describes turn based combat like a comfy blanket because that’s genuinely how I feel about it. I love the that style of gameplay, it can be both tense and exciting to play without it feeling demanding.
Unless it's games like darkest dungeon, iron oath, battle brothers, etc. Then it's a stress blanket, lol. Comfy is best left on a less broader tag like jrpgs.
It's a shame XB2 or 3 didn't make it on this list. They aren't for everyone, but for those of us who get into them, we REALLY get into them. Amazing emotional stories with the most interesting worlds to explore and sooooo many things to do. And even the DLCs are incredible (haven't gotten to FR yet though).
@@simonepiranio1380 I've heard that! I really want to play it but I'm really bad at finishing jrpgs that aren't Xenoblade lol, so I'm working through my backlog first. I played Torna a few months ago though and was blown away by its quality for a dlc!
@@mewichigo3410 torna is great ! I think future redeemed makes even the base game better given what happens to characters, and also it's full of Easter eggs if you played xenogears and xenosaga
@@simonepiranio1380 Ooooh, that's interesting! I did play Xenogears years ago so we'll see if I catch any of the references haha. I know Xenoblade is done now but I'm very excited for whatever the team does next!
I am pleased to report that I have beaten or am actively playing 9 of the 10 games on this list. The only one I'm not is Sophie 2 because I decided recently to finally get into the Atelier games with Ryza 1 first and am recently starting that one.
Highly recommend playing the pre-Firis Atelier games, the ones that are actually voiced in English. I know people are like "jUsT rEaD tHe SuBtitLeS" - but what about all of the battle voice lines that AREN'T subbed? How about when you craft an item and the alchemist says a phrase (not subtitled) that you don't understand? Completely shatters the immersion. No dub, no buy.
If you’re really looking into getting into a series with over arching lore and world building over multiple games and multiple protagonists, I would suggest getting into the Legend of Heroes: Trails of _____ series. Starting with Trails of the Sky, 2nd, and Sky the 3rd being the first arc. Trails from Zero starts the second arc, the sequel being Trails of Azure. The third arc being the Cold Steel arc, 1-4. As of writing this, the recent release in the west is Trails into Reverie, which is supposed to close the Cold Steel and Azure arcs.
Dragon Quest 11 is an perfect example of how to evolved the franchise into modern era, while staying true to it's source material and formulaic that's still hold up remarkably well. Yeah. It's simple, traditional & doesn't dramatically change the materials or added gimmicks into the gameplay. But I think it works really well without any of them and the games can still offer some pretty unique challenges. And honestly, I rather have things simple & traditional than something really complex or overcomplicated. The only thing I wish it does better is the soundtrack. Seriously, I respect the composer for given us an incredible orchestrated music that's been going for over 35 years and most of his tracks are good and memorable. But he only makes like 15 to 20 pieces of music in each games that u hear so many times and I wish he made more tunes. Regardless, Dragon Quest is still going strong and it doesn't lose faith to what the franchise is about & what is capable of. Unlike some other RPG'S like Final Fantasy, Paper Mario and Pokemon. It's also an fantastic starting point to those who never played the series or RPG games in general. DQ11 is great.
Persona 5 Royal, Dragon Quest 11, and Ni No Kuni 2 are my favorites... But my favorite JRPG of all time that introduced me to the genre is still Golden Sun. If that game is modernized and ported to the PlayStation, I'd buy it immediately.
I would definitely put the Xenoblade games in the list. Also, I’m glad you showed The Legend of Heroes some love, but I definitely prefer the Cold Steel games to the Crossbell Duology.
I would add Triangle Strategy since you added 3 houses. TS is a masterpiece, great story and characters, decision with impact, alternate endings, repeatability, difficulty settings, win win win winning.
I'm inclined to agree but man some of those choices at the end where a little bit too left of field for me and soured my experience, I still liked it a lot but it's not on the level of three houses, the impact and pay off didn't hit me as hard as three houses did, great step in the direction for square though, would love more tactical jrpgs in this style.
Unpopular opinion, but I do wanna play Triangle Strat. It looks fun and pretty. Story looks like a bore fest, but I'm more interested in the gameplay. I wanna complete it
Persona 5 Royal is not just the best JRPG of modern times. It's the best RPG, heck the best game of all time. It's been a while and I've yet to play anything better. I've tried Baldurs Gate 3, and while a great game in itself, I couldn't find myself loving it as much as I did P5R. Characters and stories are important to and I just find Persona's characters so much more relatable than Disco Elysium, BG3 and any other game. With Starfield's reviews finally dropping, it just continues to remind me that there is no better game.
Damn I've played through the entire Ryza series and am taking a break from the Atelier series right now... But the way you described Atelier Sophie makes me really wanna play it now, especially after you told us that you can skip the first one...
Well mostly because atelier games don’t focused too much on story(they even recap it for free if you want lol), and there’s only like 2 returning characters, some mentioning here and there but you don’t need to know.
Great picks! Persona 5 and Ys VIII are definitely my favorites of the ones you mentioned. I think the Xenoblade series and Nier series should be mentioned as well, two of the greatest rpgs of all time
I wasn't expecting to like Yakuza: Like a Dragon, I ended up LOVING it, for it's mature story, great characters and turn-based battle system which really works well with Yakuza franchise. And how it's silly side made the whole game feel like a weird experience that I came to love so much.
I love it too. That said, it is WAY too grindy, especially if you're interested in playing around with the jobs. I stopped playing it because of that. I intend to get back to it at some point, but I do hope that any sequels address that issue.
@@Xoulrath_ yeah, it is a grindy one, but I didn't had problem with it, dungeons (or sewers lol) however felt underwhelming, hopefully sequal fixes that part.
Honestly not,the Jrpg of these era doesn't even come close to the likes of 90s or early till mid 2000s if we compared them to some jrpg from that time like Chrono Trigger Suikoden series Breath Of Fire 1 till 4 Tactic Ogre Dragon Quest Heavenly Bride(the best Dragon Quest story tbh) Chrono Cross Xenosaga 1 Tales Of Symphonia and Abyss Star Ocean 2 Seiya Monogatari Parasite Eve 1 Linda Cube DQ VIII Terranigma Xenogears FF6(my personal favorite but 7 is much bigger FF7(the real game changer Vagrant Story Heck even the YS Kefin(which was not age well these day)was like a breath of fresh air back then if you were a longtime YS that played from the first and Xanadu fan,since they were they among the one without the bump system and fresh open area game
I like to thank you for including timestamps since that means people don't have to be like "oh... I don't like Persona, but I can't skip to spot 3 even though I don't like spot 10"
Great video!!! I haven’t gotten deep into Octopath 2 yet but looking forward to it ;) I would add Xenoblade 3 as a must. It’s deep and despite a few gripes the story just amazing. I hear it’s dlc makes it peak fiction. I’m awaiting to maybe beat all of them first… SMTV for me was perfect. The music, difficulty, fusion system, world storytelling etc. It’s my first SMT game and I loved it: by comparison I have not been able to get into P5R although I love its style. Too much normal life stuff, I’m going to try again tho. FFXVI seems nice although I’m far from beating it (still finishing Zelda). I saw people mention TWEWY and I concur it is a perfect game but don’t sleep on Neo TWEWY as it’s pretty nice too. *on a side note I’m playing Phantasy Star 4 on the Switch and it’s fantastic, hoping to try Golden Sun after!
playing through LOH: Trails in the sky right now, so that I can eventually play the Crossbell duology so that some day I can play the 4 games of Trails of cold steel.
Ys VIII is one of my favorite games, it made me fall in love with gaming again. Octopath Traveler 2 is now one of my favorite turn based RPGs of all time. If I had to add two other games to this, they might have mixed opinions, but I enjoyed Scarlet Nexus and Star Ocean: The Divine Force.
Some good picks here, still haven't played most of these. For Dragon Quest XI S on PC, I decided to turn ALL the Draconian restrictions on, thinking initially that I'd just turn off some of them if it got annoying. But at this point, I'm at Arboria, and it's become a point of pride to get to post game with all of them on. I struggled through a lot of Act 1, but now that I have a full party it's smooth sailing. I am however scared of Act 2, so I decided I would farm 99 of every seed I could in Act 1 so if I started getting my ass whipped I'd have stockpiles of seeds to fall back on. It's just taken me so long I have been sitting on that and grinding every once in a while for about a year. I farmed 99 Strength and Magic seeds using Hallelujah, then I finally resorted to just finding a mod that increases rare drop rates to 50% to get Sorcery, Therapeusis, Deftness, and Agility. Only Defense is left, and I was about halfway through that when Armored Core 6 came out. I will finish it eventually!
Great list! Maybe a bit controversial- but I actually preferred Fire Emblem Engage to Fire Emblem Three Houses. Three houses had better story/writing and slightly better soundtrack, but engage’s gameplay was better, overall it was more streamlined , and I liked having a map again. Also imo the somniel in had a lot more fun “side activities” than the academy in three houses. Both great games though 😅
What a awesome list. The cool thing is that Yakuza like a dragon even brought me to Dragon Quest, which is why I'm doubly grateful to this game and yes, of all the games you brought here, it might have been number one for me too, although it might be with Persona 5 Royal the placeArguable but both are great games and I bet the others you have on the list are good, I haven't played all of them but I would like most of them too. I must say some games I can't play it, because my english isn't good. But when I play it & I know the Story, then is it ok for me.😅
I never thought about how Arise had some similarities to MVC. When we were kids, my friend always heard the Japanese line for that attack as "Here's my Sunday Dinner!!" Now I'll think of that whenever I use Shionne's remote attack. XD
It's a bit muddled if you look at it on Wikipedia (they have the 7th and 8th generations overlapping by YEARS LOL), but 2017 saw the release of the Switch, which encompasses the PS5 and Xbox Series. Unfortunately, World of Final Fantasy doesn't count - but it's a great game!
The Lost Child was fun. I really got into it. Surprised anyone would mention that. I'd be that guy putting some more obscure game on a list like this just because I can, even if calling it one of the 10 best rpgs of the modern era is a stretch.
I now wonder. What is JRPG anyway? Persona 5, Ys 8 and Fire Emblem 3 Houses feel vastly different to me. They all have anime vibes, but the gameplays are not even similar.
Almost all of these games, I've played, have in my backlog, or on my wishlist, heh. Except for Atelier. While I've debates grabbing a game in the series (and narrowed that down to the Ryza subseries), I've still been too...ambivalent, I guess, to buy it even on sale.
Maybe it's me, but I didn't end up enjoying DQ 11 much. I did like the story, gameplay, and characters a lot, but towards the later half of the game it started feeling like a drag. Especially because of the music. Don't get me wrong I love the music, but hearing the same overworld/town/battle themes over and over made the journey even more of a slog. I would still give it an 8/10.
I'm very much partial to the more orchestral arrangements of DQ songs as I feel that the base MIDI renditions just sound like they don't have a lot of depth.
Unfortunately, every Dragon Quest games has repeated music. It's not just Dragon Quest 11. I love the orchestrated music and many of the DQ songs are great. But the composer just doesn't play an different tune and in such there's only like 15 tracks it plays in each franchise. So yeah. I lobe Dragon Quest. But it needs more tunes. Also DQ11 is far from the longest game in the franchise. That honor goes to DQ7 & DQ9. Plus u can skip cutscenes if u wonna keep the pace going.
No matter our particular preferences we can all share in the appreciation of a genre that keeps delivering, so much, in storytelling, world building and awesome artistry.
It's kinda funny to see Atelier Sophie 2 on this list, because I just wrapped up my first playthrough of Sophie 1 today and plan to start Sophie 2 very soon. I loved the entire Ryza trilogy and generally enjoyed Sophie 1 as well, so now I'm *really* looking forward to Sophie 2.
I've played 5 of this top 10 and agree with everything you said! I'm now looking forward to playing the other 5! I cannot wait for Sea of Stars and can see it get in this list as well
All great games. Working my way through Trails for the first time and looking forward to Crossbell. 13 Sentinels, the Xenoblade Trilogy and NieR Automata would make my list for sure.
I think when I go back to replay Persona 5 I will play vanilla. Royal has some ear-splitting sound effects that really hurt my head after a while and there is no option to adjust them. The ambush sound in particular really became grating.
YS VIII is such a fantastic game! I really need to get to Chained Echoes. I haven't played Nier Automata but I imagine some people would have that in their top 10 based on how many times I've been told to play the game.
I played roughly 55h+ of that game on NS. I only made it almost halfway thru 9S playthrough and kinda got bored. I still gotta catch all the rare fish before I progress to the next chapter (bcuz completion and missable content). I've done all quests, found all weapons and upgraded most of them, I've maxed out my level, and more. It's been a while since I played so I kinda forgot about most of the game. Kinda forgettable tbh In all honestly, the game is alright. It's definitely nothing special. I haven't found myself intrigued in anything, from story to gameplay. It's just kinda plain. I wanna play more of it (when I get that nitro deck) and finish the story. Maybe the A2 playthrough will finally make the game interesting in lore at least It's a unique game, but it really feels over rated af to me. I don't understand the appeal. Maybe I missed something? Maybe I haven't gotten to the good part yet? As someone who completed Metal Gear Rising and Astral Chain, NieR Automata kinda lacks. I just don't enjoy it as much as I did the other 2 games
Persona 5 and Three Houses were both my entry into each series. I followed up with Persona 4 and now playing Persona 3 Reload. I also picked up Engage, but the drop in writing quality for the characters lost me.
Persona 5, Chained Echoes, Octopath traveler 2, Dire emblem 3 Houses, Dragon quest XI They're all Bangers (I can't say for the other, I didn't played them, but if they're that good I'll sure give them a try)
I never liked JRPG's until I played Ys VIII a few years ago. Now, I love the series and it motivated me to play other JRPG's. I still don't like turn-based combat, so I can't get into those JRPG's, but Ys VIII at least introduced me to the fact that not all JRPG's do turn-based combat (or random encounters).
I'm feeling that maybe I'm experiencing some RPG burnout. I've tried DQ11, ToA, and FE:TH off this list and I just lost interest about halfway through. I did make myself finish ToA recently but it was a slog. And I have no interest in the Atelier games. But I am playing Chained Echoes and enjoying it, and I'm looking forward to Octopath 2, so maybe there is hope lol. And I recently finished XC3 and I really loved it. Good list regardless!
Thanks! One thing that I do whenever I feel I'm getting burnt out on a genre or game is to simply start exploring other series or genres that I don't normally like. For instance, I rarely play Western RPGs because I just love JRPGs a lot. But from time to time, there are gems that come out that I'm grateful for having tried. I did that last year with Elden Ring and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and had a blast - especially since both games had co-op! And technically Stranger of Paradise is more Souls-like than JRPG, but I enjoyed it a lot too! Sometimes, you need to take a vacation from your vacation, in a manner of speaking, to truly appreciate what we got going on that's good, after all!
@@BacklogBattle that's definitely something I need to do. I've got my eye on Baldurs Gate 3 for the PS5, and I'm probably going to play through Alan Wake and Control again before AW2 comes out, so maybe that'll bust me outta my slump. Especially with so many RPGs coming out over the next few months!
If you're curious about BG3, I put out a guide a week or so ago! It's got non-spoilery stuff and I think it does a really good job of getting JRPG fans mentally ready for what they're about to play!
I bought Dragon Quest 11S (PS4) because I loved Dragon Quest 8 and thought that I'd like it too, and I did, but sometime during act 1 (which took me around 70 hours to finish), I became increasingly bored. I stopped playing it after the part where I had to revisit Heliodor at the beginning of act 2. It wasn't only because of the very emotionless hero or the fact that I didn't like half of the playable characters (the Luminary, Serena, Rab and Hendrik) but also because almost all of the enemies were too easy to defeat, even with super strong monsters. Dragon Quest 8 didn't have any of these problems. It had a much more emotional hero, all of the playable characters were great and the difficulty was good. MAYBE I'll start DQ11S again once I'm finished with my backlog but probably not.
I wanted to like it. I've tried it a couple of times now as I've got access to it for free (thanks PS+). The problem is that it's just TOO old school. I love turn-based games, and I don't even mind them being very static with little to no animation. It doesn't take a lot to impress me with regards to a solid turn-based system. That said, simply spamming attack over and over, with the occasional magic attack here or there, is so late 80s. In fairness to the game, I never got more than a couple of hours in and never got a party. I couldn't even make it to Heliodor I got so damn bored. I've played too many of these games and I'm tired of always starting out with weak ass heroes who are supposed to be the chosen saviors all the time. Give me some fresh gameplay damn.
@Xoulrath_ That's not really an problem. That's just you being subjective. And that's fine if your not a fan of it. But part of what makes Dragon Quest works is how simple, yet challenging it can get. It doesn't add stupid gimmicks, making different materials or added things that are so complicated or absolutely broken in which u may or may not doing something wrong here, dragging out for no reason or lacks any challenge. Which is something modern Final Fantasy games & Pokemon failed to capitalized. It's also about an grand adventure and exploring strange, but interesting worlds and builting up your characters. That's what makes the series great. If you don't like it, than I understand. But saying it's " too old school " is pretty unfair to complaint.
@@jaretco6423 that is a problem. You telling me my opinion is my opinion is about as obtuse as an internet warrior can get. You for SOME reason feel the need to jump into a conversation betwen two people discussing why the DON'T like the game, then tell them that they are wrong. I TOLD anyone reading WHY I didn't care for the game. YOU not agreeing with MY reasons does NOT invalidate said reasons. The reality is that games like Dragon Quest are EXTEMELY niche precisely BECAUSE they are stuck in the past. It IS old school. Not ONCE did I say ANYTHING about mindless busy work or unnecessary crafting systems or anything else. You read into my response what you wanted to, to justify your reply back. Sorry dude, but spamming attack/magic, defend, heal is NOT challenging. It IS mind-numbingly boring to MOST people, even a hardcore lifestyle gamer like me. I've been doing the whole gaming thing for 41 years. So yeah, I've been around the block. The same damn game could be played DECADES ago. Now I'm not going to sit here and say that people don't still want games like this, because clearly some do. And I'm also not going to be upset at fans of games like this wanting an old-school experience with modern graphics and convenience. It doesn't change the fact that it IS old school, as I've already mentioned. I find it fucking hilarious that a game like Octopath II looks old-school, yet actually adds to the genre, while a game like DQ11 looks amazing, but feels like I'm still playing Dragon Warrior on my NES. It's fine if that's what the fans of the series still want after all this time. But maybe don't expect for the majority of gamers to still be appreciative of a game that could have been made easily in the 90s, and even has a mode that allows you to see more or less what it would have looked like.
@@Xoulrath_ Whoa. Calm down dude. I didn't say u were wrong. But your also not right either. U complaining about being niche or old school isn't entirely the games problem. That's just you. Most RPG'S does exactly as Dragon Quest does, just differently. Also, I like how u compare Octopath Traveler to Dragon Quest when Octopath Traveler or games like Final Fantasy and such does exactly the same as Dragon Quest does like spamming magic and other stuff. So complaining about doing the same magic stuff in DQ, but not to Octopath or other RPG'S that literally does the same thing is invalid.
@@jaretco6423 first of all, don't start an unneeded and unnecessary argument with someone, then see their polite yet firm reply, and tell them to calm down. I'll say this again: you brought YOUR OPINION into a comment about someone not liking DQ11 and another person (me) sharing my thoughts, aka OPINION, on why I felt the same way about DQ11. It is YOU whose opinion was not needed here. Nothing that you said was relevant to the discussion at hand, other than to tell me that my opinion was my opinion. Secondly, tell me that you didn't play Octopath II without telling me. The combat system there is NOTHING like DQ11. If you think that it is because it's turn-based, and that makes them the same, then you couldn't be more wrong. I suppose that you're also going to tell me that Persona 5 Royal is exactly like DQ11 too? Or what about One Piece Odyssey? Bravely Default II? Go on, please enlighten me as to how those very distinctive, yet clearly turn-based systems, are exactly like DQ11. Games using "magic" isn't the problem. Games using a turn-based battle system with such limited scope that it can literally be found in games made in the 80s is. Get back to me once you've comprehended what it is that I'm actually saying, and we can continue to debate further. But if your third reply to this thread is to simply regurgitate the same thing that you've said twice already, then I'll not bother to engage with you further. In any event, have a good day.
I really struggled with Three Houses. I really disliked all the running around the school. I know you can skip it but you miss out on stuff and it's such a big part of the game. I'm really glad Engage is a little less Three Houses and a bit more 3DS games. If only we could get those 3DS games on modern consoles... I agree about Like a Dragon. It's got a SLOW start that put me off for a while, but once I hit "that" point when things went off the rails, I was hooked.
I love your list Alex! I've played most of these games, and the two I don't own, I do want to get eventually 👍. I also love the fact you opened with Persona 5 Royal, that game is a masterpiece of modern JRPGs. Keep up the great work! 🎉
@@BacklogBattle You're very welcome! Atelier Sophie 2 and Chained Echoes are the two I don't have at the moment. I actually *have* played Chained Echoes on Game pass, but I'd rather get my own digital copy at some point. And I've heard nothing but amazing things about Atelier Sophie 2, especially the combat system.
Solid list! Only one i havent played is atelier sophie. I plan to get to those games sometime though. The only Atelier game ive played so far is Ryza 1.
Yup, got no problem with this list! There are certainly many JRPGs-since-2017 that I would include at the same level as these games ... just goes to show how successful and exciting the genre's renaissance has been! I'm lovin it. (And going back to play and re-play much older games too.)
Regular enemies that are more spongy than bosses in other JRPGS. Forcing the player, without warning, to play a specific character even if they never used him, making them undeveloped and under-geared. Characters who just stand there dead in the eye, while easily preventable tragedies keep happening around them over and over. Characters disappearing from existence the moment the camera isn't pointing at them. etc. Yeah, Tales of Arise really is one of the best JPRGs of the modern era! Oh but the graphics were pretty, so there's that. Jokes aside, it had a lot of potential, it had an engaging plot, likable characters and a pretty fun combat system, but it all just went downhill as the game progressed.
YS8 is easily a game that I constantly talk about with my friend and while we do agree that 9 improved on the gameplay front and exploration at times, 8 is just still a better game. 3 houses may have had its issues but there's no denying that it had a lot of interesting ideas that I'm very disappointed never came back into engage and with engage as an anniversary title, it's very disappointing. The only thing that game improved on was the gameplay but the characters and story were weak because of it and I felt nothing. Speaking of anniversary title, the fact that arise is an anniversary title but it feels like there was a lot of work and a lot of effort put into it with the addition of some callbacks is why that ended up becoming one of the best tales games in the series if not the best even with the ability to not have your friends come in and play the game with you with the classic tales co-op. That said I will always love that ability to switch your characters out in the middle of Battle while you're doing combos as it definitely harkens to the Marvel versus capcom games which is why I'm pretty sure that's where Tri ace got the idea for the upcoming star ocean 2 remaster with what that game's gonna do with the cast of that game. Although the thought of Shionne being Tony...... Oh dear God I don't want to imagine her being a drunk lol. Regardless this was a very solid list of a whole bunch of games in the JRPG genre and the good news is we're getting more which is something I definitely give this genre for at least giving us more of what we want rather than given us less of what we want like other genres, I am currently glaring at the first person shooters right now and sports. Great job Alex!
It should go without saying that if you don't own either, then you just get the PS5 version. Whether or not it's worth upgrading though, is probably just a matter of opinion. I believe that VIII has a 120fps mode on PS5, so if you've got the TV for it, then it may be worth the upgrade to you even if you've already played and beaten the PS4 version.
i love the trails series but for some reason could never get into persona 5 i try it 3 time but always ending up put it down and move on i really tried but for some reason just not for me i dont know why....
Yeah I love the games don't get me wrong I just don't play it all that often cuz I'm looking on other stuff tales of arise and the game you just mentioned and I'm working on Diablo 2 as well
Love to see lists like this. I always roll my eyes when people try and act like all the best games are from the 80s to early 00s’- certainly have some GOATs from then, but to act like we haven’t gotten some real game changers in the past decade is just disingenuous.
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The Xenoblade trilogy, Star Ocean The Divine Force, the Blue Reflection series, NEO The World Ends With You, Pokemon Legends Arceus and so much more, it's just amazing to see my favorite genre thriving like this, and breaking through to mainstream attention as well!
I agree with most of these games but Pokemon Arceus is the worst game i ever played... first game i ever ask for a refund :(
Bro snuck in Pokémon
@wingsofwinter2600 Honestly, what was the point of leaving such a negativity-filled comment? I like all the games you listed too (though I haven't played much SMT IV yet, and I dunno if I'd call Dark Souls modern per se) but you don't have put down something someone else likes to highlight something you like. We can both like things, I promise! xD
Heck, some of the "cons" you listed about a few games are things I like about 'em.
Xenoblade games are the best games I ever played in my life
@wingsofwinter2600how is it a weeaboo story?
Bro i'm so glad you chose Three Houses over engage.
That was an easy decision! Also, it’s the community that chose it!
I love how he describes turn based combat like a comfy blanket because that’s genuinely how I feel about it. I love the that style of gameplay, it can be both tense and exciting to play without it feeling demanding.
Unless it's games like darkest dungeon, iron oath, battle brothers, etc. Then it's a stress blanket, lol.
Comfy is best left on a less broader tag like jrpgs.
@@belldrop7365 😂 fair point but I personally still enjoy that style of game mechanics even if the difficulty is dialled up to 11
Xenoblade is by far the best modern jrpg Takahashi never ceases to amaze
It's a shame XB2 or 3 didn't make it on this list. They aren't for everyone, but for those of us who get into them, we REALLY get into them. Amazing emotional stories with the most interesting worlds to explore and sooooo many things to do. And even the DLCs are incredible (haven't gotten to FR yet though).
@@mewichigo3410 fr makes it even better😶
@@simonepiranio1380 I've heard that! I really want to play it but I'm really bad at finishing jrpgs that aren't Xenoblade lol, so I'm working through my backlog first. I played Torna a few months ago though and was blown away by its quality for a dlc!
@@mewichigo3410 torna is great ! I think future redeemed makes even the base game better given what happens to characters, and also it's full of Easter eggs if you played xenogears and xenosaga
@@simonepiranio1380 Ooooh, that's interesting! I did play Xenogears years ago so we'll see if I catch any of the references haha. I know Xenoblade is done now but I'm very excited for whatever the team does next!
Triangle strategy, octopath traveler, and Tactics ogre have been my favorites!
All fantastic games!
Exact sorta content I was looking for. Thanks bud
I am pleased to report that I have beaten or am actively playing 9 of the 10 games on this list. The only one I'm not is Sophie 2 because I decided recently to finally get into the Atelier games with Ryza 1 first and am recently starting that one.
Highly recommend playing the pre-Firis Atelier games, the ones that are actually voiced in English.
I know people are like "jUsT rEaD tHe SuBtitLeS" - but what about all of the battle voice lines that AREN'T subbed? How about when you craft an item and the alchemist says a phrase (not subtitled) that you don't understand? Completely shatters the immersion.
No dub, no buy.
@@LEWIS1992oh, interesting. Which ones are dubbed that are worth playing??
Thank you for shouting us out Backlog Battle!!🥰
If you’re really looking into getting into a series with over arching lore and world building over multiple games and multiple protagonists, I would suggest getting into the Legend of Heroes: Trails of _____ series.
Starting with Trails of the Sky, 2nd, and Sky the 3rd being the first arc. Trails from Zero starts the second arc, the sequel being Trails of Azure. The third arc being the Cold Steel arc, 1-4. As of writing this, the recent release in the west is Trails into Reverie, which is supposed to close the Cold Steel and Azure arcs.
Dragon Quest 11 is an perfect example of how to evolved the franchise into modern era, while staying true to it's source material and formulaic that's still hold up remarkably well. Yeah. It's simple, traditional & doesn't dramatically change the materials or added gimmicks into the gameplay. But I think it works really well without any of them and the games can still offer some pretty unique challenges. And honestly, I rather have things simple & traditional than something really complex or overcomplicated. The only thing I wish it does better is the soundtrack. Seriously, I respect the composer for given us an incredible orchestrated music that's been going for over 35 years and most of his tracks are good and memorable. But he only makes like 15 to 20 pieces of music in each games that u hear so many times and I wish he made more tunes. Regardless, Dragon Quest is still going strong and it doesn't lose faith to what the franchise is about & what is capable of. Unlike some other RPG'S like Final Fantasy, Paper Mario and Pokemon. It's also an fantastic starting point to those who never played the series or RPG games in general. DQ11 is great.
Persona 5 Royal, Dragon Quest 11, and Ni No Kuni 2 are my favorites... But my favorite JRPG of all time that introduced me to the genre is still Golden Sun. If that game is modernized and ported to the PlayStation, I'd buy it immediately.
I would definitely put the Xenoblade games in the list. Also, I’m glad you showed The Legend of Heroes some love, but I definitely prefer the Cold Steel games to the Crossbell Duology.
Wish there was a Xenoblade game on the list!
Me too!
I would add Triangle Strategy since you added 3 houses. TS is a masterpiece, great story and characters, decision with impact, alternate endings, repeatability, difficulty settings, win win win winning.
I'm inclined to agree but man some of those choices at the end where a little bit too left of field for me and soured my experience, I still liked it a lot but it's not on the level of three houses, the impact and pay off didn't hit me as hard as three houses did, great step in the direction for square though, would love more tactical jrpgs in this style.
Triangle stategy is very good but fire emblem is VERY bad
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Unpopular opinion, but I do wanna play Triangle Strat. It looks fun and pretty. Story looks like a bore fest, but I'm more interested in the gameplay. I wanna complete it
@@cqllel5186 you may be surprised. It’s heavily story driven, enjoy! Gameplay is a great
Great list! I also loved Scarlet Nexus and Nier: Replicant! Currently replaying Tales of Arise :)
Glad you put the Crossbell duology instead of Cold Steel on the list.
So gold to see YS8 and Tales of Arise are here!! And I also LOVE DIOFIELD CHRONICLES if u consider its a JRPG (I know it’s RTS but...) lol
AFFOGATO actually sponsoring Videos? Wasn't expecting that. I played the demo, and bought the full version on the release because the demo was great!
Persona 5 Royal is not just the best JRPG of modern times. It's the best RPG, heck the best game of all time. It's been a while and I've yet to play anything better. I've tried Baldurs Gate 3, and while a great game in itself, I couldn't find myself loving it as much as I did P5R. Characters and stories are important to and I just find Persona's characters so much more relatable than Disco Elysium, BG3 and any other game. With Starfield's reviews finally dropping, it just continues to remind me that there is no better game.
Damn I've played through the entire Ryza series and am taking a break from the Atelier series right now... But the way you described Atelier Sophie makes me really wanna play it now, especially after you told us that you can skip the first one...
Well mostly because atelier games don’t focused too much on story(they even recap it for free if you want lol), and there’s only like 2 returning characters, some mentioning here and there but you don’t need to know.
@@Eclin yea I just bought the game on sale a week ago and still enjoying it...
Great picks! Persona 5 and Ys VIII are definitely my favorites of the ones you mentioned.
I think the Xenoblade series and Nier series should be mentioned as well, two of the greatest rpgs of all time
I wasn't expecting to like Yakuza: Like a Dragon, I ended up LOVING it, for it's mature story, great characters and turn-based battle system which really works well with Yakuza franchise.
And how it's silly side made the whole game feel like a weird experience that I came to love so much.
I love it too. That said, it is WAY too grindy, especially if you're interested in playing around with the jobs. I stopped playing it because of that. I intend to get back to it at some point, but I do hope that any sequels address that issue.
@@Xoulrath_ yeah, it is a grindy one, but I didn't had problem with it, dungeons (or sewers lol) however felt underwhelming, hopefully sequal fixes that part.
Great list - honestly, modern JRPGs have been phenomenal. This is the new Golden Age!
Honestly not,the Jrpg of these era doesn't even come close to the likes of 90s or early till mid 2000s if we compared them to some jrpg from that time like
Chrono Trigger
Suikoden series
Breath Of Fire 1 till 4
Tactic Ogre
Dragon Quest Heavenly Bride(the best Dragon Quest story tbh)
Chrono Cross
Xenosaga 1
Tales Of Symphonia and Abyss
Star Ocean 2
Seiya Monogatari
Parasite Eve 1
Linda Cube
DQ VIII
Terranigma
Xenogears
FF6(my personal favorite but 7 is much bigger
FF7(the real game changer
Vagrant Story
Heck even the YS Kefin(which was not age well these day)was like a breath of fresh air back then if you were a longtime YS that played from the first and Xanadu fan,since they were they among the one without the bump system and fresh open area game
I like to thank you for including timestamps since that means people don't have to be like "oh... I don't like Persona, but I can't skip to spot 3 even though I don't like spot 10"
Recently played Monster Hunter Stories 2 and liked it so much!! The art style, the enviroments, the gameplay and all the collectionable monsties
Such a fantastic game! Makes me wish Capcom made turn-based RPGs again!
Yes!! I recently beat this too and it was so much fun! Makes MH very accessible and it has a ton of post-game content too which is a treat.
I felt like a kid again when I played Ys VIII for the first time
Exactly! The magic in some of these games, which have that effect on many of us, is so palpable.
Great video!!! I haven’t gotten deep into Octopath 2 yet but looking forward to it ;)
I would add Xenoblade 3 as a must. It’s deep and despite a few gripes the story just amazing. I hear it’s dlc makes it peak fiction. I’m awaiting to maybe beat all of them first…
SMTV for me was perfect. The music, difficulty, fusion system, world storytelling etc. It’s my first SMT game and I loved it: by comparison I have not been able to get into P5R although I love its style. Too much normal life stuff, I’m going to try again tho.
FFXVI seems nice although I’m far from beating it (still finishing Zelda). I saw people mention TWEWY and I concur it is a perfect game but don’t sleep on Neo TWEWY as it’s pretty nice too.
*on a side note I’m playing Phantasy Star 4 on the Switch and it’s fantastic, hoping to try Golden Sun after!
Phantasy Star is a criminally underrated RPG. II and IV are among my favorites of all time.
Hope you enjoy Golden Sun! It was my first JRPG, and still one of my favorites to this day!
Baller list. 7 of the 10 of these I own have played through more than once.
playing through LOH: Trails in the sky right now, so that I can eventually play the Crossbell duology so that some day I can play the 4 games of Trails of cold steel.
Whoo I didn't realize affogato finally came out! Thanks for the heads up there.
No problem!
Came here to rep for Xenoblade chronicles (remake, 2, 3…) what an awesome slate of games we have
Ys VIII is one of my favorite games, it made me fall in love with gaming again. Octopath Traveler 2 is now one of my favorite turn based RPGs of all time. If I had to add two other games to this, they might have mixed opinions, but I enjoyed Scarlet Nexus and Star Ocean: The Divine Force.
Your additions are just as valid as the ones here! Thank you for sharing! (Also, fingers crossed for a Scarlet Nexus sequel!)
Some good picks here, still haven't played most of these. For Dragon Quest XI S on PC, I decided to turn ALL the Draconian restrictions on, thinking initially that I'd just turn off some of them if it got annoying. But at this point, I'm at Arboria, and it's become a point of pride to get to post game with all of them on. I struggled through a lot of Act 1, but now that I have a full party it's smooth sailing. I am however scared of Act 2, so I decided I would farm 99 of every seed I could in Act 1 so if I started getting my ass whipped I'd have stockpiles of seeds to fall back on.
It's just taken me so long I have been sitting on that and grinding every once in a while for about a year. I farmed 99 Strength and Magic seeds using Hallelujah, then I finally resorted to just finding a mod that increases rare drop rates to 50% to get Sorcery, Therapeusis, Deftness, and Agility. Only Defense is left, and I was about halfway through that when Armored Core 6 came out. I will finish it eventually!
Great list! Maybe a bit controversial- but I actually preferred Fire Emblem Engage to Fire Emblem Three Houses. Three houses had better story/writing and slightly better soundtrack, but engage’s gameplay was better, overall it was more streamlined , and I liked having a map again. Also imo the somniel in had a lot more fun “side activities” than the academy in three houses. Both great games though 😅
What a awesome list. The cool thing is that Yakuza like a dragon even brought me to Dragon Quest, which is why I'm doubly grateful to this game and yes, of all the games you brought here, it might have been number one for me too, although it might be with Persona 5 Royal the placeArguable but both are great games and I bet the others you have on the list are good, I haven't played all of them but I would like most of them too.
I must say some games I can't play it, because my english isn't good. But when I play it & I know the Story, then is it ok for me.😅
Thank God.. I was thinking there wasn't anything good to watch on youtube.. but gonna watch this now
I never thought about how Arise had some similarities to MVC. When we were kids, my friend always heard the Japanese line for that attack as "Here's my Sunday Dinner!!" Now I'll think of that whenever I use Shionne's remote attack. XD
1:16 What generation started in 2017? World of Final Fantasy came out in 2016, does it not count?
It's a bit muddled if you look at it on Wikipedia (they have the 7th and 8th generations overlapping by YEARS LOL), but 2017 saw the release of the Switch, which encompasses the PS5 and Xbox Series. Unfortunately, World of Final Fantasy doesn't count - but it's a great game!
Good selection.
I could put some instead of other but it would be more for my preferences than a good qualitity options for everybody.
Good job 👍
When i thought that only old rpgs were masterpieces, i've come to known Tales of Arise and Three Houses ❤
Tales of arise is pretty mediocre. There are many tales games better than arise.
Why do you say that [curious] ? @@tarstarkas1091
4 of the best I've played in the modern era are The Lost Child, Neo: The World Ends with You, SMT IV, and... well, any Xenoblade game barring 2!
The Lost Child was fun. I really got into it. Surprised anyone would mention that. I'd be that guy putting some more obscure game on a list like this just because I can, even if calling it one of the 10 best rpgs of the modern era is a stretch.
I now wonder. What is JRPG anyway? Persona 5, Ys 8 and Fire Emblem 3 Houses feel vastly different to me. They all have anime vibes, but the gameplays are not even similar.
Adding Sea of Stars to the list
Love tales of arise. It really was that good. Recommended to anyone
My favourite one that you mentioned was Octopath Traveler, some people I know don't like it but I do like it.
Seeing Dragon quest XI on the thumbnail made me instantly watch the video
Great list!
I've either played most of these or have them on my wishlist.
Almost all of these games, I've played, have in my backlog, or on my wishlist, heh.
Except for Atelier. While I've debates grabbing a game in the series (and narrowed that down to the Ryza subseries), I've still been too...ambivalent, I guess, to buy it even on sale.
Maybe it's me, but I didn't end up enjoying DQ 11 much. I did like the story, gameplay, and characters a lot, but towards the later half of the game it started feeling like a drag. Especially because of the music.
Don't get me wrong I love the music, but hearing the same overworld/town/battle themes over and over made the journey even more of a slog. I would still give it an 8/10.
I'm very much partial to the more orchestral arrangements of DQ songs as I feel that the base MIDI renditions just sound like they don't have a lot of depth.
Unfortunately, every Dragon Quest games has repeated music. It's not just Dragon Quest 11. I love the orchestrated music and many of the DQ songs are great. But the composer just doesn't play an different tune and in such there's only like 15 tracks it plays in each franchise. So yeah. I lobe Dragon Quest. But it needs more tunes.
Also DQ11 is far from the longest game in the franchise. That honor goes to DQ7 & DQ9. Plus u can skip cutscenes if u wonna keep the pace going.
No matter our particular preferences we can all share in the appreciation of a genre that keeps delivering, so much, in storytelling, world building and awesome artistry.
Dragon quest is defo a series i need to tackle at some point!
It's kinda funny to see Atelier Sophie 2 on this list, because I just wrapped up my first playthrough of Sophie 1 today and plan to start Sophie 2 very soon. I loved the entire Ryza trilogy and generally enjoyed Sophie 1 as well, so now I'm *really* looking forward to Sophie 2.
It's a very solid list. I'd include Live A Live as an honorable mention
I've played 5 of this top 10 and agree with everything you said! I'm now looking forward to playing the other 5! I cannot wait for Sea of Stars and can see it get in this list as well
All great games. Working my way through Trails for the first time and looking forward to Crossbell.
13 Sentinels, the Xenoblade Trilogy and NieR Automata would make my list for sure.
I think when I go back to replay Persona 5 I will play vanilla. Royal has some ear-splitting sound effects that really hurt my head after a while and there is no option to adjust them. The ambush sound in particular really became grating.
YS VIII is such a fantastic game! I really need to get to Chained Echoes. I haven't played Nier Automata but I imagine some people would have that in their top 10 based on how many times I've been told to play the game.
Absolutely. NA a stone cold masterpiece, in my opinion!
I played roughly 55h+ of that game on NS. I only made it almost halfway thru 9S playthrough and kinda got bored. I still gotta catch all the rare fish before I progress to the next chapter (bcuz completion and missable content). I've done all quests, found all weapons and upgraded most of them, I've maxed out my level, and more. It's been a while since I played so I kinda forgot about most of the game. Kinda forgettable tbh
In all honestly, the game is alright. It's definitely nothing special. I haven't found myself intrigued in anything, from story to gameplay. It's just kinda plain. I wanna play more of it (when I get that nitro deck) and finish the story. Maybe the A2 playthrough will finally make the game interesting in lore at least
It's a unique game, but it really feels over rated af to me. I don't understand the appeal. Maybe I missed something? Maybe I haven't gotten to the good part yet? As someone who completed Metal Gear Rising and Astral Chain, NieR Automata kinda lacks. I just don't enjoy it as much as I did the other 2 games
Persona 5 and Three Houses were both my entry into each series. I followed up with Persona 4 and now playing Persona 3 Reload. I also picked up Engage, but the drop in writing quality for the characters lost me.
Persona 5, Chained Echoes, Octopath traveler 2, Dire emblem 3 Houses, Dragon quest XI
They're all Bangers (I can't say for the other, I didn't played them, but if they're that good I'll sure give them a try)
Glad to see Yakuza on the list.
I never liked JRPG's until I played Ys VIII a few years ago. Now, I love the series and it motivated me to play other JRPG's. I still don't like turn-based combat, so I can't get into those JRPG's, but Ys VIII at least introduced me to the fact that not all JRPG's do turn-based combat (or random encounters).
Tales of arise is so good. Cant find a Game Like this. Tried tales of berseria but only played it a few hours
Shout out to NEO TWEWY
Excited to try this one. Already bought it, just playing something else.
@@BlueGrovyle enjoy it’s a favorite of mine ^^
We have been completely spoiled with RPGs since 2017. I'm absolutely loving this era.
The fishing was good in arise and bravely default 2s card game was awesome if you haven't done it yet how about best mini games in rpgs
Do you need to play previous Dragon Quest games to play XI or is it like the Final Fantasy series?
It's like Final Fantasy - play whatever you want!
I'm feeling that maybe I'm experiencing some RPG burnout. I've tried DQ11, ToA, and FE:TH off this list and I just lost interest about halfway through. I did make myself finish ToA recently but it was a slog. And I have no interest in the Atelier games. But I am playing Chained Echoes and enjoying it, and I'm looking forward to Octopath 2, so maybe there is hope lol. And I recently finished XC3 and I really loved it. Good list regardless!
Thanks! One thing that I do whenever I feel I'm getting burnt out on a genre or game is to simply start exploring other series or genres that I don't normally like. For instance, I rarely play Western RPGs because I just love JRPGs a lot. But from time to time, there are gems that come out that I'm grateful for having tried. I did that last year with Elden Ring and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and had a blast - especially since both games had co-op! And technically Stranger of Paradise is more Souls-like than JRPG, but I enjoyed it a lot too!
Sometimes, you need to take a vacation from your vacation, in a manner of speaking, to truly appreciate what we got going on that's good, after all!
@@BacklogBattle that's definitely something I need to do. I've got my eye on Baldurs Gate 3 for the PS5, and I'm probably going to play through Alan Wake and Control again before AW2 comes out, so maybe that'll bust me outta my slump. Especially with so many RPGs coming out over the next few months!
If you're curious about BG3, I put out a guide a week or so ago! It's got non-spoilery stuff and I think it does a really good job of getting JRPG fans mentally ready for what they're about to play!
Atelier sophie 2 is that good..? iam pretty sceptic with the series..
Trails is my favorite jrpg series followed behind by xenoblade and persona
Tales of Arise is the goat. Always loved the tales series but Arise blew away my expectations. Still go back to it time and time again
Last dungeon aside it was incredible
I find story and characters average but it was really fun to plau (gameplay-wise)
You could say it arose past your expectations
By the comments, it seems like this needs a part 2!
That’s the plan!
I bought Dragon Quest 11S (PS4) because I loved Dragon Quest 8 and thought that I'd like it too, and I did, but sometime during act 1 (which took me around 70 hours to finish), I became increasingly bored. I stopped playing it after the part where I had to revisit Heliodor at the beginning of act 2. It wasn't only because of the very emotionless hero or the fact that I didn't like half of the playable characters (the Luminary, Serena, Rab and Hendrik) but also because almost all of the enemies were too easy to defeat, even with super strong monsters. Dragon Quest 8 didn't have any of these problems. It had a much more emotional hero, all of the playable characters were great and the difficulty was good. MAYBE I'll start DQ11S again once I'm finished with my backlog but probably not.
I wanted to like it. I've tried it a couple of times now as I've got access to it for free (thanks PS+). The problem is that it's just TOO old school. I love turn-based games, and I don't even mind them being very static with little to no animation. It doesn't take a lot to impress me with regards to a solid turn-based system. That said, simply spamming attack over and over, with the occasional magic attack here or there, is so late 80s.
In fairness to the game, I never got more than a couple of hours in and never got a party. I couldn't even make it to Heliodor I got so damn bored. I've played too many of these games and I'm tired of always starting out with weak ass heroes who are supposed to be the chosen saviors all the time. Give me some fresh gameplay damn.
@Xoulrath_ That's not really an problem. That's just you being subjective. And that's fine if your not a fan of it. But part of what makes Dragon Quest works is how simple, yet challenging it can get. It doesn't add stupid gimmicks, making different materials or added things that are so complicated or absolutely broken in which u may or may not doing something wrong here, dragging out for no reason or lacks any challenge. Which is something modern Final Fantasy games & Pokemon failed to capitalized. It's also about an grand adventure and exploring strange, but interesting worlds and builting up your characters. That's what makes the series great. If you don't like it, than I understand. But saying it's " too old school " is pretty unfair to complaint.
@@jaretco6423 that is a problem. You telling me my opinion is my opinion is about as obtuse as an internet warrior can get. You for SOME reason feel the need to jump into a conversation betwen two people discussing why the DON'T like the game, then tell them that they are wrong. I TOLD anyone reading WHY I didn't care for the game. YOU not agreeing with MY reasons does NOT invalidate said reasons.
The reality is that games like Dragon Quest are EXTEMELY niche precisely BECAUSE they are stuck in the past. It IS old school. Not ONCE did I say ANYTHING about mindless busy work or unnecessary crafting systems or anything else. You read into my response what you wanted to, to justify your reply back.
Sorry dude, but spamming attack/magic, defend, heal is NOT challenging. It IS mind-numbingly boring to MOST people, even a hardcore lifestyle gamer like me. I've been doing the whole gaming thing for 41 years. So yeah, I've been around the block. The same damn game could be played DECADES ago.
Now I'm not going to sit here and say that people don't still want games like this, because clearly some do. And I'm also not going to be upset at fans of games like this wanting an old-school experience with modern graphics and convenience. It doesn't change the fact that it IS old school, as I've already mentioned.
I find it fucking hilarious that a game like Octopath II looks old-school, yet actually adds to the genre, while a game like DQ11 looks amazing, but feels like I'm still playing Dragon Warrior on my NES. It's fine if that's what the fans of the series still want after all this time. But maybe don't expect for the majority of gamers to still be appreciative of a game that could have been made easily in the 90s, and even has a mode that allows you to see more or less what it would have looked like.
@@Xoulrath_ Whoa. Calm down dude. I didn't say u were wrong. But your also not right either. U complaining about being niche or old school isn't entirely the games problem. That's just you. Most RPG'S does exactly as Dragon Quest does, just differently. Also, I like how u compare Octopath Traveler to Dragon Quest when Octopath Traveler or games like Final Fantasy and such does exactly the same as Dragon Quest does like spamming magic and other stuff. So complaining about doing the same magic stuff in DQ, but not to Octopath or other RPG'S that literally does the same thing is invalid.
@@jaretco6423 first of all, don't start an unneeded and unnecessary argument with someone, then see their polite yet firm reply, and tell them to calm down. I'll say this again: you brought YOUR OPINION into a comment about someone not liking DQ11 and another person (me) sharing my thoughts, aka OPINION, on why I felt the same way about DQ11. It is YOU whose opinion was not needed here. Nothing that you said was relevant to the discussion at hand, other than to tell me that my opinion was my opinion.
Secondly, tell me that you didn't play Octopath II without telling me. The combat system there is NOTHING like DQ11. If you think that it is because it's turn-based, and that makes them the same, then you couldn't be more wrong. I suppose that you're also going to tell me that Persona 5 Royal is exactly like DQ11 too? Or what about One Piece Odyssey? Bravely Default II? Go on, please enlighten me as to how those very distinctive, yet clearly turn-based systems, are exactly like DQ11.
Games using "magic" isn't the problem. Games using a turn-based battle system with such limited scope that it can literally be found in games made in the 80s is. Get back to me once you've comprehended what it is that I'm actually saying, and we can continue to debate further. But if your third reply to this thread is to simply regurgitate the same thing that you've said twice already, then I'll not bother to engage with you further. In any event, have a good day.
Will Affogato get a console release?
Good question! There’s controller support, so I’m guessing eventually it will!
definitely agree with Fire Emblem Three Houses to me that game is special
I really struggled with Three Houses. I really disliked all the running around the school. I know you can skip it but you miss out on stuff and it's such a big part of the game. I'm really glad Engage is a little less Three Houses and a bit more 3DS games. If only we could get those 3DS games on modern consoles...
I agree about Like a Dragon. It's got a SLOW start that put me off for a while, but once I hit "that" point when things went off the rails, I was hooked.
thanks for the video alex! i agree with the others. every game here is a must play.
I love your list Alex! I've played most of these games, and the two I don't own, I do want to get eventually 👍. I also love the fact you opened with Persona 5 Royal, that game is a masterpiece of modern JRPGs. Keep up the great work! 🎉
Thank you so much! Which two don’t you own?
@@BacklogBattle You're very welcome! Atelier Sophie 2 and Chained Echoes are the two I don't have at the moment. I actually *have* played Chained Echoes on Game pass, but I'd rather get my own digital copy at some point. And I've heard nothing but amazing things about Atelier Sophie 2, especially the combat system.
Solid list! Only one i havent played is atelier sophie. I plan to get to those games sometime though. The only Atelier game ive played so far is Ryza 1.
Triangle Strategy and Xenoblade Chronicles 3, personal favorites
The fact that there isn't a single Xenoblade game on this list is an interesting choice.
As I mentioned elsewhere, take that up with the community! They chose the games.
Glad to see Persona in the list! Who is the red haired girl in the thumbnail?
I see Ys VIII is in the list, I press thumbs up.
Xenoblade has been the greatest trilogy I have ever experienced!
Yup, got no problem with this list! There are certainly many JRPGs-since-2017 that I would include at the same level as these games ... just goes to show how successful and exciting the genre's renaissance has been! I'm lovin it. (And going back to play and re-play much older games too.)
I really love Fire Emblem Three Houses
My favorite modern JRPG is *checks notes* dark souls. Wait, that can't be right.
Regular enemies that are more spongy than bosses in other JRPGS. Forcing the player, without warning, to play a specific character even if they never used him, making them undeveloped and under-geared. Characters who just stand there dead in the eye, while easily preventable tragedies keep happening around them over and over. Characters disappearing from existence the moment the camera isn't pointing at them. etc. Yeah, Tales of Arise really is one of the best JPRGs of the modern era! Oh but the graphics were pretty, so there's that.
Jokes aside, it had a lot of potential, it had an engaging plot, likable characters and a pretty fun combat system, but it all just went downhill as the game progressed.
YS8 is easily a game that I constantly talk about with my friend and while we do agree that 9 improved on the gameplay front and exploration at times, 8 is just still a better game. 3 houses may have had its issues but there's no denying that it had a lot of interesting ideas that I'm very disappointed never came back into engage and with engage as an anniversary title, it's very disappointing. The only thing that game improved on was the gameplay but the characters and story were weak because of it and I felt nothing. Speaking of anniversary title, the fact that arise is an anniversary title but it feels like there was a lot of work and a lot of effort put into it with the addition of some callbacks is why that ended up becoming one of the best tales games in the series if not the best even with the ability to not have your friends come in and play the game with you with the classic tales co-op. That said I will always love that ability to switch your characters out in the middle of Battle while you're doing combos as it definitely harkens to the Marvel versus capcom games which is why I'm pretty sure that's where Tri ace got the idea for the upcoming star ocean 2 remaster with what that game's gonna do with the cast of that game. Although the thought of Shionne being Tony...... Oh dear God I don't want to imagine her being a drunk lol. Regardless this was a very solid list of a whole bunch of games in the JRPG genre and the good news is we're getting more which is something I definitely give this genre for at least giving us more of what we want rather than given us less of what we want like other genres, I am currently glaring at the first person shooters right now and sports. Great job Alex!
Yakuza at number 1 forced me to give this vid a thumbs up
Hi everyone. How would you compare Ys 8 PS4 to PS5 version?
PS5 version’s great! Highly recommended!
It should go without saying that if you don't own either, then you just get the PS5 version. Whether or not it's worth upgrading though, is probably just a matter of opinion. I believe that VIII has a 120fps mode on PS5, so if you've got the TV for it, then it may be worth the upgrade to you even if you've already played and beaten the PS4 version.
i love the trails series but for some reason could never get into persona 5 i try it 3 time but always ending up put it down and move on i really tried but for some reason just not for me i dont know why....
Yeah I love the games don't get me wrong I just don't play it all that often cuz I'm looking on other stuff tales of arise and the game you just mentioned and I'm working on Diablo 2 as well
Dq11 is the only one in the series i finished. Not sure why
Love to see lists like this. I always roll my eyes when people try and act like all the best games are from the 80s to early 00s’- certainly have some GOATs from then, but to act like we haven’t gotten some real game changers in the past decade is just disingenuous.
Clearly the best game ever made is Pong. Your opinion is invalid. 😁
Cold steel 4 or Trails into Reverie?
Damn. Played em all. Need more love JRPG’s.
Who is the character in the center on the thumbnail?
Her name's Affogato, from the game Affogato, who's sponsoring the video
@@BacklogBattle well that’s what I get for skipping the intro to speed into the list haha
Yakuza 7 is literally my favourite game of all time
Nier automata deserves to be here. Probably the most poignant story ever told in a game