The green bubble, blue bubble issue has always seem very stupid to me. The fact that people are actually making that an issue shows how petty people have become.
People make it an issue because its an issue. Its an issue because apple refuses to support modern photocalls when communicating between an iphone and an android phone, meaning that the messages are sent unencrypted and take longer to receive (although not really noticeable). They have refused to modernise until recently forced to by the EU.
@@sylussquared9724 It’s not an issue. Apple along with any other company has the right to control their technology the way they see fit as long as it’s not effecting customers illegally. If Apple doesn’t want to allow photocall between Android then they can do that. Same thing applies to Google too. If Google doesn’t want to allow photocall with iPhones or use some Google exclusive technology with iPhone users then they have the right to do that in my opinion. You all need to stop complaining about stupid stuff.
My first computer was an Apple //e. My first IT job was a computer technician at Computerland. I got to work on the Apple Lisa in the workshop. I was disgusted I could not do component repairs on simple modules like power supplies for the markings on the components being shaved off and no access to service repair manuals. I was further disgusted at the power supply module replacement cost. I was also very disappointed that Apple turned it's back on Steve Wozniac open ended design and the whole industry of peripherals his design created with the Apple // & /// products, to such an extent I dis-appointed apple from my choice of brand. Also a novice programmer, moving across to the Intel platform allowed my novice experience to go professional by the age of 19. Sorry Apple, you lost this fanatic a long long time ago, not that I don't think Billy is not a POS.
@@l3martin Wow! There's a Kool-Aid fed claim! Based on an analysis of which use cases in which markets using what metrics? Your claim makes as much sense as saying "Green vs Blue vs Red. Red wins, hands down."
@@ffsireallydontcare During my IT experience of more than 40 years, I've worked on many different technologies across many operating systems that includes MVS, AS/400, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, Windows, OS/2, Netware, Linux, MacOS, and more. The metrics include usability, reliability, functionality, and overall experience. And it is not the same as your colour analogy. (face palm)
And... They (Apple) talks/promotes it's pro position on sustainability and recyclable devices. Yet, doesn't seem to be at all interested or serious about making it easier to unlock retired, lost, and outdated units. Loads of MDM locked devices are currently sitting on pallets, gathering dust in a warehouse somewhere. Something to think about when investing in an Apple, especially if the environment really matters to you.
@@AndreasGerhard1 when too many people forced to be rotten on streets due to drug epidemic, high crime rate, closing shops, sky high rental price, and shops closing... yeah, iphone is more important, yea, let's debate this on camera for the whole year!
@@nikostalk5730 Did you even know the reason why this lawsuit was made to begin with? You didn't even know how dangerous a monopoly is... Monopoly can caused higher prices, lower quality product, fewer choices, price discrimination, less innovation, deadweight loss, lower wages, less investment, etc... If this thing happen, there would be more people forced to be rotten on the street like you mentioned... If you haven't realized that, then you're just "an infant who still learn how to breathe"...
@@AndreasGerhard1 yes, but talking about monopoly - is the NEXT step after making your population SAFE LIVING. The drug addictions, the gangs, the crimes, all of this must be regulated, not to make it flow like a river, just because some democrats wants to. Bro, there were the times, when NO APPLE ever been created, and people still be on duty, making their life to be better. People helped each other, and now, you force me to forget about it and talk about money-making corpo, nah, i ain't go down for what. I'll let another companies to grow on apple lawsuits and bring better life to all of us, excluding you. You can do whatever you want to.
@@DragonGamer-ly3lf Does that matter if they are? Also, they aren't good for the users, as the changes include splitting Apple's company apart which is not great for privacy... Is it great if the government has the right to tell a company what they can and cannot do? What happens when they tell citizens where they can and cannot go, or what job they have to work?
@@asnasc If it were up to me I would defund the government and put the world's most talented scientists, phycologists and doctors in charge. The current ones in charge are wiping their butts with the power they don't deserve
Right up there with them going after AI because fake nudes came out of Taylor Swift. Even though nude fakes of celebreties and regular people have been around for decades.
I still dont understand what negative there is if apple complies with what the government wants. People would have more freedom to use their iphones how they want. And the ones that wanna stay locked down can continue to use only apple products and just use the app store to get all their apps. Edit: fixed so many typos, lol
You're correct....This is a good thing because it forces Apple to play a little more fair. The ONLY thing it's restricting Apple's ability to monopolize. As consumers, you would think that a business being called out and targeted for such behavior would be a good thing... But then again, Apple loyalists are so brainwashed that they see ANY move against Apple as a bad thing...Even if it would benefit them in the end. Most of the responses here defending Apple are "I love my Mac...because it just works!".....Well that's cool and all, but what does that have to do with WHY Apple is being sued? lol.
I love my walled garden and refuse to ever use android and this bs is exactly bs and I believe Apple should be left alone because nobody is “forced” into anything there’s a reason why some choose Apple and others want to use android
You're absolutely right, I bought an iPhone and a MacBook Pro because "I" wanted to, I make the choices about what products I want to buy, not governments! If I wanted an Android Phone I'd have bought one, but I didn't, so I didn't , why can't governments and the EU for that matter work that one out?? its not rocket science.
Did anybody tell you that a hardware backdoor was discovered in M3 chips and 13th gen Intel CPUs? Now your device is as easy to hack as any other...lols
@@a_DiGiTaL_Slave_Labs Thanks for your very interesting comment, I am aware of the hardware backdoor of the M3 chips. As for the Intel chips that's nothing to do with Apple, that's Intel's problem which doesn't just apply Mac's as PC's will using them too. The BackDoor problem with the M3 chips is a really bad problem for Apple admittedly, but its also a good thing too in a way, because Apple has been made aware of it now and will resolve it hopefully with their next gen of "M" chips. Sadly as I'm sure you're aware that nothing in tech is totally unhackable, even Android users with their Samsung Galaxy Tabs & Phones running the latest Snapdragon chips will get the same treatment sooner or later down the line, because sadly hackers don't discriminate anymore, if they can't get pleasure from hacking you on a software level they'll try to get you on a hardware level, Which is I'm sure you'll agree is a very sad and pathetic thing to do to anyone. so if people think they're safe with a Snapdragon chip, think again, they just haven't tried it ....Yet .
yeah, that's not the issue...it's compatibility with android phones and accessories...that's the issue...I should be able to use an android phone with an apple watch ultra 2...but they don't work together...
Each has a cause. Drug Rings were conducted by Brit-ish East India Trading Co into China for Rothschild and his puppet royals. CIA was set up by British Intelligence via John Dee (whom 007 was based). Drugs fund Black Ops, were smuggled in the corpses of Vietnam war soldiers. International Conflicts are fabricated. They put countries into debt to central bankster cartel and proffit their military industry barons, coountries insolvant and bankrupted placed stealthily under foreign occupation by the creditors to pay back the debt by taxation, rates, penalties, fines, etc... The most relevant for America is the Civil War that bankrupted it. WW1 & 2 did all the commonwealth countries that based their constitution on the principles of the Constitution of the USA thereby limiting the powers of the royals over them. Economic Crisis is due to central bankster and treasury chicanery by the misuse of monopoly fiat currency. The biggest gang wars are military infant-ry destroying countries to rebuild that put them into bankruptcy to expand the empire of the west (~dead at law).
This is so stupid. If you want an android and its products then buy it. If you want an iPhone and Apple products then buy that. Govt is focused on the wrong things.
Apple believes privacy regardless if your doing illegal things or not so they can't get apples cooperation. Android is known for being hacked and alot of companies using Android work with the FBI so they will give them your info so before yaw start saying apple this or that remember ven tho they gone charge for there products that just works out the box and is reliable
I'll Pay 50$ for a cord to charge my mac because I know unlike Android apple products are going to work together so smooth and rarely will your mac crash
Because Walmart isn’t a trillionaire, and cost of operation of Walmart is expensive as h3ll compare to Apple. As in ACTUAL cost, not oh $100k employees and overpricing materials imports as “business expense”
@@MP-vc4nuWalmart doesn’t pay any tax and they raise prices in certain things and have predatory shopping tactics. I worked there for a long time I know lol. They are more corrupt than Apple I promise you lol.
The thing is, no-one is forcing anybody to use Apple products.. if you don't like how things work, just get a PC/Android. When I switched to Apple it was like stepping into the future. Even today, I still get these "wtf" moments. I like that Apple is BIG on security, privacy, and how everything smoothly slides with speed, all while synced to other devices. I like how the products retain value, and how a macOS update makes it feel like getting a new computer. If what the government is trying to do changes any of that, that will for sure change my life. Why they wanna step us back.. df? Maybe focus on the plastic in the ocean, or the water in Flint Michigan instead. Dam! smh....
Use your brain. They are just making it harder to switch. Wouldn't it be better if Apple devices could be paired with anything? Why are you guys so protective of a megacorporation that practices some of the worst anticonsumer approaches out there.
@@tempname8263 You’d have to be in the club to understand. And this is coming from someone raised on android/PC. Not only that, but you could say the same about google. When I switched to Apple, it wasn’t like it was a walk in the park to do. Took me weeks to untether myself from the drive 🤷🏾♂️
@@tempname8263Because technology has somehow become a part of people’s identity. You’re judged by the brand of laptop or phone you use. These consumers feel personally attacked when something negative is said and need to defend these corporations. It’s ridiculous.
I choose to buy apple products based on the quality, and the way I can use one, and still have it available on another, ie., iPad, or MacBook Pro. Also, If apple is sincere about privacy, I believe that this is what the government is truly after.
Apple products it only one that good and have quality samsung the one who have to supply Apple with display for all iphone and parts for iphone I know u Learn something new tonight alot u buy Apple products u don't who male it For it to work Apple is not a Manufactory Samsung does they are the one number Manufacturer in world who have supply Apple or other companies samsung they TV there own phone laptops and Many more I hope u learn somethings need tonight alot things Apple don't want u to know is samsung who supply them with parts
The video is wrong, it is actually a smoke screen to make you believe the government is why Apple is failing. Apple being miles behind everyone else in the AI space is what is killing Apple. Ask Siri if you don't believe me. 😂😂😂
i take it you have never owned a premium 1000 dollar android phone they work just as good as a iPhone and is just as a secure as an iphone you mindless sheep always bring up apple is all about privacy and security really studies have shown that they android just as secure as the iOS and i also dont see how android phones less private as a iphone at least i have the choice to side load apps if i want without the risks of jail breaking my phone
WTF is the gov talking about. I use an ipad and a windows ( I don’t use a phone ) and it works FINE. maybe not ultra seamless, but don’t pretend android + windows is ultra seamless.
Android isn't intentionally making it harder, and it's much easier for android developers to make software that integrates with other operating systems.
Yea but it’s still worse bcz those people don’t make the oses so the intergraion still sucks and also if they exist… do you even use them and would a random person find them go tho the janky setup prosses just to get rubbish that doesn’t work
Actually it is. If you've ever connected an android phone to a windows computer to transfer a file, then it's super easy. It shows up as an actual disk in file explorer which you can see everything even from the root of the filesystem If you connect an android phone to a mac, nothing shows up in finder, and you have to install an incredibly buggy app made by google that only works half of the time. Apple is intentionally making the experience worse to force users to switch.
The gov is focusing on the wrong things. Poverty rates are going up, taxes looks like SAT scores, and inflation is just gross. So attacking Apple instead of genuine problems in the country is disappointing
It could cost them dearly during the election year. I don’t think Biden administration has enough wiggle room to play with beloved US company like Apple.
I'm not sure how so many people feel so compelled to protect a trillion dollar company from scrutiny. I'm sure, like every other trillion dollar company, apple is completely benevolent and always put the consumer first.
Whether Apple is a $1 company or $1tn company, no one should be forced to change their products to suit a competitor or their competitors user base. Yes they should be scrutinised for any malpractices etc and that’s understandable but to be taken to court over Green vs Blue is just beyond pathetic. If Apple isn’t providing a service or product for you, then you have other options, if those other options aren’t as good as Apple, then is that really Apple’ fault? They’re a totally different company and have zero reasons to make things cross-compatible.
@@TheStudyyRoomwhat about not letting game streaming apps on App Store due to violent nature of video games while at the same time keeping video streaming apps on the store... Why? Video streaming apps also stream violent content.... Why double standards? Apple tries everything to make it harder to switch to other devices.. That's the problem
@@TheStudyyRoom It's got nothing to do with a COMPETITOR'S user base. It has to do with the user base, no matter the competitor. In almost every other aspect of consumer electronics, all the brands play nice with each other. I can connect any brand of Blu-ray player to any TV, and they work. The interconnects are universal. An HDMI cable works between any brand of TV or player. If Apple were making TVs? They'd have a different power plug and connector and require a specific cable provider. Their Blu-Ray player would only play Apple discs.
Maybe I’m looking at it in a different perspective but if a company creates a device and accessories to only work with each other then that alone should allow me to make a informed decision as to whether I should buy their product or go elsewhere. Would it be nice for to be cross compatible? I’m sure, but once again it’s their product and they want to keep it closed then so be it. As a consumer, we have the choice whether we want to buy their products or not. It’s like saying I want to buy a XBOX series X disc and I want it to work with the PS5 because they’re games consoles. My best friend has an android, and he’s had an android since the early days and I switched from Sony Erickson to iPhone and for 17 years we’ve been absolutely fine messaging each other whether it was sms or via what’s app or messenger, we had options and we used them. I genuinely believe this whole green vs blue bubble stigma is in the states. Europe and Asia, no one really cares. That maybe due to androids popularity here but those who converse between iPhone and android, guess what? Are doing absolutely fine and have no issues
Iphone is only phone out there just like we have all different brands of car u can choose from a phone is just a phone it all work the same people just buy Iphone because it have a apple logo on it
I think the best way to break a monopoly is not to force it to break apart but remove the protections it relies on. Remove Apple's ability to sue for breaking their walled garden and you'll find people developing ways to sideload apps, reverse-engineer iMessage, develop better drivers for Apple peripherals. Sure, Apple will fight back and patch whatever exploits let you sideload apps. And then people will find new ones. It will be a constant cat-and-mouse game, but I think that is the best way to solve the issue while respecting Apple's freedom to design a product as they see fit.
But why reverse engineer something that people seem to hate on so much? I find that super funny. If you don't like iOS stick with android. If you don't like MacOS stick with Windows. Angry because it can't be hacked to do things that breaks the seamlessness? Again just stop with the nonsense .
@@theiceman1972exactly. I don’t get this mentality. You hate it so much but yet you want it open enough to use it? Just like you said, if you don’t like iPhone then use and be happy with android and vice versa. I really scratch my head with this 😂
“Government lawyers” is a FILTHY term. The worst of the worst. These people would be bussing tables if they weren’t government wasn’t aligned against the people.
Sorry, @shineareaeruil.... removing the security that keeps my iPhone secure from the same people that make viruses and un-controlled apps for Android is NOT my idea of breaking a monopoly. They just want all systems equally bad. Apparently, Apple is making other products worse by making theirs better. Read the lawsuit - that's the gist of it. Only a f'ing stupid lawyer would bother to voice that out loud. I have NEVER heard such a stupid argument. Translate it over to cars: Let's say Mercedes is making the best cars on the planet (true or false, just for arguments sake). So, now they are getting sued for making a better car that a Yugo? If you think that is ok, then you should give your head a shake.
You're absolutely right... But my gut tells me there's something deeper at play here. I recall some information that I came across when Apple decided to take it's manufacturing to China. China has a policy that everything belongs to CCP. Can it be that Apple made a bad deal, inevitably ceding company control/leverage to CCP?
Apple might be charging exorbitant prices for storage and memory, but there is a good reason why these are built into their infrastructure. For various reasons, I am running 3 laptops running Windows, Fedora, and MacOS. The experience of Windows and Linux don't even come close. Part of this reason is Apple's closed ecosystem. My 2 cents: you get what you pay for - if you want to complain about the price, buy something else. My Macbook is my daily driver and I won't easily change that.
@@Stevos-Corner I'm not talking about the underlying OS - I'm talking about usability for most people's day-to-day tasks. Apple's solutions just work - no need to squeeze the most performance out of everything. And yes, I also have more than 40 years IT experience, anything from MVS, OS/400, HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Linux, Netware, OS/2, Windows, ... And the way that Apple makes it all comes together is next level. I avoided Apple for the longest time. After one week in January this year, I was hooked. One of the key characteristics of a good system, is how much time you spend thinking about the system whilst you are using it. Pretty much like a good shoe - you don't think about it, you just walk/run. On the desktop, MacOS is really doing that - after you get used to it. On server, my preference is Linux. In both cases, I think about the work that I'm doing, not the software.
So basically., the premise is that Apple products work seamlessly together with each other while their competitors products don't. Basically, the argument is that Apple should make it just as seamless to integrate MS and Android devices with their Apple devices, even though the competition can't do it with their own devices.
If Apple really cared about our privacy, they would have used RCS years ago instead of defaulting to SMS for non-iPhone users. If also really bothers me that it took them this long to put USB.C on the phones
The blue bubble originally meant it was free and secure. Now it just means it's more secure. When they add end to end encryption to their RCS implementation, maybe they should change it, but they have subtly added a new feature, text animations, that will by design not be implemented in the current RCS standard, and theres still things like shareplay which could work, and things like games or payments that they wouldn't do without imessage
@@deshawn4077 Um my Grandparents had the same Android phone for 7 years before finally upgrading. It worked just fine with no issues whatsoever, but this needed to happen because Apple is so crooked.
@@CaraCatalfamoYet here we are, unfortunately I do feel bad for those who use this phone or the products associated because this is not a good thing for the company or the consumer.
Because Google/Android let other manufacturers use their software in their phones and let the other phone manufacturers tweak the Android operating system to work with the phones they may. You cannot buy and Apple phone with Android operating system and vise Vera. You want an Apple watch because you want the features they. Sorry you have to buy an Apple phone. Etc
@@CaraCatalfamo BINGO…which is why I will never in a million years buy an android phone. I value my PRIVACY. I feel bad for android users Who unfortunately don’t ever think about privacy when it comes to android products.
As an Apple user, this is not going to happen unless Trump gets into office. Apple has its own platform, I am happy with it, I have used android devices and they have always let me down. The bottom line is trust, that is the core of what I see with Apple, Cook has held the helm well in my view at Apple, sure some apple products may be marginally expensive, what I am getting for that money is I trust Apple more than Android and Microsoft trying to shaft me on the back end on their marketing strategies and stability. I see everything up front with Apple, more reliable and stable, so if the competitors are whining because Apple has a superior product, then they need to improve their came. The only competition out there that is stepping up to the plate in the Android arena is Samsung, so if you are going to go after Apple, then you need to go after Samsung. It all boils down to one thing, product loyalty, my and every other Apples users are loyal to the Apple brand because overall it is more reliable.
I was thinking the same thing too, why is there such a big focus on Apple alone? If the government is going after one company with all of these problems then they better at least be consistent about it. I’ve had nothing but iPhones for the past 10 years and they’ve always been reliable for me. I’ve tried to operate different Android phones from friends that own them (most people I know own Androids) and while I consider myself fairly tech savvy I have more troubles navigating those phones.
I only use Mac Book Pro and the I MAC Computers. I had a i phone and I had major problems with Storage and other things. It's way to expensive for the average person to buy one so they usually get an android. I just use their computers and I wouldn't go back to a PC ever because of all the Viruses and junk I use to get on a PC. I've had my MAC BOOK PRO FOR ALMOST nine years and it runs great. All my other PC's I had didn't last past four years.
As a Man with cognitive Dificulties, I emigrated from Windows to Mac more than 20 years ago because i couldn't make sense of the software. Since i moved to Apple i have never looked back as you can do the same things with apple on its made simpler. i am now into programming when before i couldnt set up an email account.
As a guy that started off on Apple many many many moons ago.... I switched to Windows. Can do anything you want.... on Mac.... you probably can, but you'll need 55 different gestures, and maybe 32 different dongles.
WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO CARES ABOUT BUBBLE COLOR IN TEXT MESSAGES WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE 🤦♀️ I actually do love to tell the difference when I’m sending a text to someone like I physically would hate if it was same color or if I couldn’t tell my friend lost internet connection and that’s why it’s suddenly green so I’d know she’d not respond immediately on Snapchat or messenger. Ever since the bubble color thing everything in tech world goes down WTF I love Apple just because they’re not android or Microsoft and I can actually physically use Apple tech without debilitating urge to throw it at a wall like I have wanted with other tech devices when they constantly fail my trust. Also yes while my iPhone is slowly going out and my watch is leaning towards end and I have the second hand MacBook for extra two years above its life and it’s getting louder fans or my AirPods wanna take a break from me so far Apple has been the only tech company which products I have not even considered to toss out just for the annoyance they can be when they’re lived in a bit over the regular shelf period (and my moms last years android is getting on my nerves more than my physically dying decade old iPad I also got from a second hand tech store about four years ago and many years above its shelf life so that alone is saying things about a tech company) I love Apple for what it is and how it is bc FINALLY I’ve found a proper tech company products that my demanding persona can actually use and feel safe using (as I largely appreciate Apple’s way of security and ecosystem integration making it the most smooth experience that I never had with anything else before) Government should stay out of things that aren’t their business just because of peer pressure from people with less understanding the depths. And USB-C was already enough (I hate usb-c cables like some disgusting thing my heart lies in lightning cables also I hate how usb-c collects impossibly cleanable dusts and threatens to break )
Apple has had data breaches in the past and many exploits in their OSs. It is not necessarily more secure than a *Good* android phone and I really hate this assumption and having that sense of false true security. It is a very secure OS, however Google pixels also do a bang up job here. Apple recently supported RCS, but it would be nice if they had a different color for that, and if they could offer Imessage and other services like that on competing platforms. I am a person who switched from Apple to Google pixels and the thing I hate the most is people wanting me to use an Apple service I can't use on Android because apple won't offer them to us. The common thing people tell me is "just get an iPhone" but I don't want one, I just want that one particular service from Apple on my preferred device. You can use Google services on iPhone, why not the other way around? If your family or what not relies on a certain service, you feel forced into buying and using a phone from Apple you might not want to use (like in my case) and that is the problem I have with Apple. You saying the "pressure of people who don't understand the depths" can be thrown right back at you.
in honesty the government needs to be sued for all their negligence and spending hard earned tax dollars to fund wars that matter not to the average American. all the more while starving and homeless veterans roam the streets in the 10s of 1000s
also at this point with the tiktok ban and many other pay apps being banned the government is overstepping their boundaries of what they should be allowed to do.
if the government is allowed to do that then they are allowed to do this to any company meaning you are not really allowed to run your business the way you want
Apple … been with from them from the beginning … arrogant jerks. Never listen to loyal patrons. Serves them right ! Either can be inclusive or divisive. Trying to sabotage people who don’t own Apple products is ridiculous!!
The other day I bought a Samsung Galaxy phone, and the seller told me that there was no charger in the box, so I bought a charger as well, and then asked me if I listen to music, and I said yes, and he said I should buy a Bluetooth hands-free because the new phones don't have 3.5mm jack. So, I bought Galaxy Buds too.
I think many Apple employees actually believe that all this bullying by Apple is for the good of customers and security etc. Meanwhile the world isn’t buying it anymore. Apple has been bullying everyone from customers to developers to Android users to repairs people, for years, and they definitely deserve to be sued. I hope they’re forced to change their ways deeply. And I say this as an Apple user and stock holder, who wishes them the best long term. They’ve lost their way and their reputation is falling to the dump, and if they don’t change it’ll become worse and worse.
After all this stuff started, I finally realized, even though you pay for & own a iPhone, you really dont own it, because apple still got their products on lockdown. If I pay close to a $1000 for a phone, I want to be able to download & do what I want, cause it’s my damn phone.
@@maxx1nsaneMainstream Android phone manufacturers do shove plenty of shit down customer throats, though. That's why I stopped buying Samsung. They're as bad if not worse than Apple. They're trying to do what Apple does, while also putting advertisements into the operating system and forcing bloatware on customers. At least they were when I ditched them. The only reasonable options at this point are phones with lesser hardware specs, like Pine and Libre devices. And in some places, carriers refuse to allow them on the network because of their deals with phone manufacturers and because they don't get to force their bloatware on you to spy on everything you do.
@@p5eudo883I get that but forcing apple to open up their software will only introduce more cracks through which companies like Facebook or Amazon can snoop on your messages, shoppings, emails and so on. As I mention many times, I do not agree with a lot of things Apple is doing but Privacy and having control over your encryption keys is more important than not being able to send a picture to an Android device. For that I have always used Signal or emails. I accept that those are not as secure as iMessages so I act accordingly. Android is full of bloatware like you said and I would not want that to come to Apple. I am afraid that brainless people that think they don't have anything to hide will accept control just for convenience.
no ones forcing you just keep the watch it still gets updates for the next 5 years after and will always continue to work as long as you take care of it. I don’t understand why people think they’re being forced, it’s not like there’s an annoying message telling you to upgrade unless you just need an excuse to buy a new watch every year.
@@person_with_opinionsthey adopted usb c through gritted teeth because they had to, they would not have changed to usb c if the European Union didn’t force them to
"entire I'm a Mac, I'm a PC rant about how Apple has better software, is more fun" Mac still has no games. People *still* want/use Office on Macs Right. Absolutely more "fun". "Many people there is generally a stigma" Yeah, there is. There are plenty of research papers on it and how it leads to bullying, how it's a stigma, and how Apple has documents on how that's intentional to bully people into "buy your mom an iphone". Funny how the tune was so different back in the days of the Microsoft monopoly suit. "Apple is the best company in the country" Yeah, you're totally a trustworthy source. And the best company absolutely would abuse and crush third party repair shops, refuse to let you actually own your own product, for you to replace instead of being able to repair, and contribute massively to the e-waste issue with their fragile wires and proprietary charging ports. What a load of shit.
Apple is way too big and considering it's size and success it's products are a joke (lets introduce a new model phone every year), it's software is a joke (lets introduce major software updates to often and give them a new name every time and get the customers to test them because we are too lazy to care), "oh yeah, lets launch that VR thing to coz its... er its... er what is it? Only ever had an iPhone 4 and dumped it as soon as i saw the Note 3 and never went back. iPad Pro for 9 months and it got sold very quickly for a proper tablet with a much better operating system - S8 Ultra (free pen which actually feels like a pen!). Macs = always relied on it until... 'Sonoma' was flushed down the Apple lavatory, my 2019 mac is not fit to be used with it & is now slower, full of bugs and the fan is running all the time = GOODBYE CRAPPLE FOREVER.
@@theiceman1972 glad to know you represent ALL Mac users and that the Mac users that I have listened to talk about getting Office for Mac or seen using Excel on a Mac are all just figments of my imagination.
@@Wing0Alchemist did you see me anywhere say all Mac users? Please don’t try to start a debate. This is my opinion and is just as valid as any. I’m talking about me and me only. If you see something in what I said that’s referring to all please show. I use pages and if needed for someone else I can save it in any word format. So again, why do “I” need office? Not to mention that office is a monthly subscription now. Pages came “Free” with Apple purchases. Maybe learn to comprehend a little better. My does not = All
This is so dumb. Its simple. If you like Apple / iProducts than buy them. If you do not like them, you have many other choices. Its not like T-Mobile / ATT / Version is telling you that you have to buy iPhone to use cell towers. Now that would be a monopoly. People vote with their wallet, and if iPhone is the most popular phone in the USA, than that is what people like and want.
The government really needs to stop stepping over boundaries. Especially when they don't know what they're dealing with. It'll be a real shame if they ruin apple's eco system that they keep at a high quality.
The reality is that every company is going to look for an edge they can leverage. And, it only becomes bad when they become VERY successful … it happened with ibm, google, microsoft, apple, xerox, general motors, standard oil, Intel…. ATT, etc.
It great to have different Operating systems in mobile category but the cross platform working should be made absolutely better. Yes the government should force them to work on this. Apple watch and samsung phone excellent, but never works
Please don't succeed like Apple then… I mean it's obvious that this is an Attack on the profit margins and revenue. As much as Apple may possibly be recession-proof it scares this DOJ and they want control.
I’d want options for color for bubbles, customization of themes for iMessage. Idc about the whole blue vs green. Also background photo options for iMessage. These things come from the concept of how you can do some of these things on WhatsApp/Messenger (like they brought in Stickers)
The bubble issue is very real. Every once in a while, I'll begin texting with a prospective client. A green bubble eventually leads to, "After carefully examining my upcoming schedule, I'm not in a position to accept new clients at the moment." If nothing else, a green bubble indicates that you are communicating with someone that sends texts from the keyboard on their phone. Like a caveman. Like it's 2004.
Punishing companies for being successful doesn't seem like a winning strategy... There are plenty of underhanded things Apple does and has in its policies, but this case doesn't address any of them.
I am a very ex-Apple, now Andriod and Samsung user. However, This is a fight the US government should not be picking. Yes there are issues when using Apple specific eco-systems by Android users, but with there being about 3 times more Android users than iOS users, its a smaller issue than it appears. But the main reason the US government as well as the EU are going after Apple is not for users sakes, but rather to attract attention away from illegal immigration issues. As you have said, it's a big, headline and attention grabbing statement, but it would take years to get to court, if it ever did. But the announcement has dropped other and far bigger issues off the front page. I don't like the stuffiness of the Apple eco-system, which is why I replaced all my Apple products, but I will defend their right to have that system all day long. They created a system which provides a reliable and safe service to millions of people around the world and that should not be an issue.
And then Bill Gates appeared on that big screen behind Steve Jobs and said.... here's Office and Internet Explorer. The crowd booed and yet clapped simultaneously.... they used office, and were happy.
Right. Because Apple giving their customers choice by allowing them to install 3rd party software, use 3rd party app stores, use alternative payment processors and basically giving them more freedom and choice is OBVIOUSLY a hideously bad thing. Apple could absolutely open up their platform and provide consumers with more choice without there being any downside to consumers. But they don't want to because they like being a monopoly, exerting control and price gouging. This is what happens when a lifestyle company pretends to be a technology company.
Surely the ultimate arbiter in this should be us consumers. We have the choice to go closed eco system route with Apple or more open with Samsung. I genuinely believe this has more to do with government control than a concern for our best interests. A closed eco system will be harder for the government to snoop on its citizens (although I am sure they can still do it) and also to control actions / access information. I watched a video on RUclips claiming the benefits of Samsung and the fact their eco system is much larger including things like fridges that can tell you when something is going bad or a washing machine that can tell you when it’s done. The more open an eco system is the more it is vulnerable to hackers and compatibility issues. But the one thing that I ask myself is that as a species have we lost the ability to work anything out by ourselves? For me the Apple eco system does everything I want it to.
But why should the consumer be punished? Shouldn't we be allowed to buy what we want? You literally CAN'T use an apple watch with an Android device. It's not the "works but won't be pretty" scenario, it literally can't happen..
I think WE THE PEOPLE need to sue the Gov for a host of things that they are allowing, starting with the invasion at the border. The Gov vs Apple is so freaking petty. We all know Bill Gates is very much impeded with gov officials......how about starting there first.
This has less to do with the government considering Apple a monopoly and more to do with Apple not doing exactly what the government wants when it wants. I'm referring of course to privacy. I have more of a problem with a government that believes it has the power to do basically what it wants. 2A
That’s what I’d do if I was Apple. I’d just close everything and go away. “We the people” in both Europe and the USA clearly don’t like our iPhones as we let our courts do what they do
Green vs Blue Bubbles....ridiculous...As irritating as some things are that Apple implements, they should have autonomy. Seriously if things get that bad, I'll just switch products.
@@dogieball573 it’s not hard to use a Macbook without a phone made by Apple lol I literally used to do it all the time, that’s literally like comparing a windows laptop to a laptop made by Apple, there’s no difference with or without an iPhone from my experience on both. Sure you can have an iPad and a Mac book but why do you need the phone made by that company to use the device? You don’t need it at all. When people go out an try to find a new device they mostly look at the software. By the way on iPhones there's an app made By google called switch to android and you can use it to transfer your info over to an android device if you needed to.
As an Apple user beginning in 1980, I am all for the Government. My apple II Plus became the number one PC at the time because of 3rd party software and hardware. Now Apple wants it all.
I believe in the power of the Apple ecosystem, which offers seamless integration across all devices and services, empowering me with unparalleled convenience and efficiency. Opting into the Apple ecosystem is not merely a choice; it's a strategic decision that enhances my productivity and connectivity. Instead of focusing on insignificant matters like blue bubble messages, I prioritize recognizing the substantial benefits that the Apple ecosystem brings to individuals and businesses.
At the end of the day this lawsuit I feel will fail. For the consumer, it’s a choice. We are not forced to buy Apple, Android, Windows, or Mac. WE MAKE A CHOICE and stick with it. We are free to CHOOSE! This lawsuit is a joke!!!
No no no... Apple made almost nothing hardware related they designed much of it. But they didn't make it. Then no... macs and iphones do NOT work well together, I had a terrible experience & returned it all.
I'm PC and Android all the way; Linux too. But the majority of phones are Android, as too the majority of computers are Windows PC, so I don't see any monopoly.
Apple users have this "it just works" argument they like to use. Well Android and Windows just work with every device out there nicely.... except Apple products.
I think that it is ridiculous to make any manufacturer have to produce a product that is compatible with an unknown amount of technology. For example, texting android vs texting iPhone...one is clearly better, iPhone to iPhone but you can still text message any cell phone on the planet...even dumb phones. They do not make it impossible to do it outside the ecosystem and it works rather well so why should Apple be responsible for making that outside experience the same as what they are responsible for which is what they own, their devices, their software and the updates they receive. So what if these awesome add ons are great with one thing but not another? It isn't Apple's fault, it is the fault of the manufacturer or designer or engineer behind those other non Apple devices. Apple built devices and software that work with other things they have built...they have standardized also and have made allowances for changes like USB C to accommodate outside influences to keep the companies products competitive in our existing society. It works, why should Apple be responsible for making a product that works amazing with every possible device that links to it? That is ridiculous. Even the human population is not like this. For example, our bodies can heal and repair from many traumas and illnesses. There is a certain part of the population that will succumb to those traumas and illnesses too but overall, we are resilient enough to for the most part as a species, survive. It should be up to the makers of the associated technologies to find out how to be compatible with both ecosystems if we are talking just the biggest two...Apple and Android. Many companies have done this and made decent profit. So those that buy Apple and complain that it won't work with everything...my car does not work with my sofa but I don't complain. It is not the responsibility of my car manufacturer nor is it the responsibility of my sofa maker to ensure compatibility with the infinite world that they could never foresee and are not financially responsible for. I mean, I can move my sofa with my car so I should be satisfied about the fact that is possible and not complain that I am not getting a massage while my car moves my sofa. It works with other things. That to me says a lot yet our own government wants to be a baby and say its how it works with things it doesn't own. Then the government should hold itself to that same standard and offer free services for the citizens of this country so we can be completely compatible with all other countries and possible devices we encounter. That means free health care, free education and not charging any person for harvesting sun power and quit going to war over resources or differences in government styles. Democracy supports differences so we should respect that other places are not democracies. Our people had to rise up and fight to be where we are so will their own citizens if they want different. It might be harder to do the more time passes and the governments get more powerful but I digress. It should be unconstitutional to enforce a company to have universal compatibility just like it should be unconstitutional to provide any company with immunity from persecution for products they produce that people interact with. So this is the same thing but in reverse. Big pharma can't be sued for killing people with COVID vaccines that were dangerous and not vaccines but therapies when they were supposed to be compatible and safe with all citizens who were forced to take them but were not. So why should Apple be sued for making its ecosystem so strong that they hold the market share with the invention of their devices that work so well with all their other devices and work with other devices but with diminished qualities? We are in a democracy that gets to choose the products and services we use. We are poor at selecting the best companies to buy from or use services from like Facebook or Google due to them collecting all of our digital data when connected from their devices or software. Facebook just flat out steals because they might own the website but they are collecting data from every website you go to forever after logging into Facebook and so they are an infectious virus. They take that data and sell it repetitively for an infinite amount of time. You can opt out of being tracked and increase the privacy so Facebook does not have that ability which is a lie because I have done the highest removal of Facebook tracking and they are still collecting my data and the data of anybody that uses that browser. Its why I use a different downloaded browser that cannot visit Facebook so it cannot be infected with their stealing malicious algorithm. Apple protects its users from this and you know this is exactly why the government is suing. They want to have easier access to Apple customer data for use whenever they feel like it because every other company has given over our data to them. Even so, they still get the data using crafted software designed to break the firewalls that protect Apple customers so I don't see why they are making such public waste of our tax dollars for things that most citizens, you know, the bosses of the government don't care about. I would rather see the tax dollars we give to the government not go to ridiculous black projects that hurt innocent people and have the CIA disbanded for its crimes against humanity. Then we can feed everybody, give healthcare to people...the real healthcare that works and not this crap pharmaceutical model developed in the 30's that has proven it only works for short periods of time. We need border protection so Americans aren't paying for the world to live off of us because our own citizens are dying from lack of services that they pay for as other non citizens are getting those services and exhausting working programs to a point of bust. We need to stop welfare for simply having children and make people work but ensure there are jobs for people. We need to enforce laws that protect citizens and not hurt them. Wasting their money is hurting them.
You are just a gold fish in a 1 gallon bowl. Where are you going today? You just got a new filter! Yippee!! It's not any better, just new. Unless you think a higher price is better.
One Apple product I just can't get into is the Mac. I just don't like the interface. I prefer having a taskbar at the bottom of the screen, and programs open up in full screen. Also, back in the day hated that the Mac only had one button, as I did a lot of right clicking. It is nice that they later on allowed right clicking.
The AppStore fees were illegal from the very first second. They closed the system for third partiy installations. And 30 percent is a bad joke. They should it pay all back. Because they have no right for it from the very beginning. Same goes for the iPod touch iTunes music store. Because the Walkman producers didn’t want money for allowing people to make music available on the walkman. Apple screwed up but also many other App Store owners
Apple is a corporation and as such a business. They own the AppStore and should have the right to make money from the store they created. DOJ hates Apples popularity and wants to destroy their success. Force us all onto inferior android devices.
Maybe I am naive but I love the concept of the App Store a place I can get an app without the fear of downloading a virus. I would never download anything to my iPad/iPhone that did not come from the App Store. Likewise I love the concept of Apple making both hardware and software, they simply work. Perfect example try connecting a smart camera, smart plug and a smart light from three different companies to another companies smart home controller. With one you have to stand on your head and clap your hand with the other you have to stand on one foot and whistle Dixie and lastly you have to install by turning three times and bow to the north and if you do all that they may work but not every time. Total nonsense Apple may be controlling but their products work together. On every other product things may work or not it is a crap shoot
Funny enough, allowing other stores doesn't mean you can't just use the app store. Alternatively, there's nothing stopping Apple from making a mark indicating an app was "Apple certified"
@@Wing0Alchemist that is true but who pays for the expense to Apple to certify the code. There are only three choices me the consumer? That might make the product too expensive to buy, Apple , or the creator. Seems to me the logical choice is the creator he is the one that wants me to buy and to make his product more desirable he is willing to pay Apple to certify his product.
@@edblough4134Are you saying Apple doesn't already certify what's in the app store? Oh I'm sorry, I thought the standard Apple defense for the walled garden app store was that it was the only way they could ensure that all apps were "safe." As for other app stores, just leave the responsibility of "verifying" the apps on those stores to those stores. And if you don't want to deal with those, *don't download alternate stores and just keep using the App Store.* Like Apple fans don't understand the concept of personal choice and options, too used to being spoon fed and told what you want instead of making a choice. The option existing doesn't mean you have to use it.
If the government is going to force Apple to do anything, they should make them bring back the Sim card tray permanently and implement a fingerprint sensor for crying out loud.
@@michaels8607for a seemingly wholesome guy with an aspiring yt channel. Don't be dumb. The DOJ is literally benefitting everyone by forcing apple to do the things they should have done years ago.
Does the government not know that more android phones are sold than any Apple iPhone? I mean seriously… This thinking that Apple has a monopoly in the space is ridiculous… if a company designs and develops a product or line of products that are meant to be tightly integrated, then that should be allowed. Also a company should be allowed to say what happens on their platforms, it’s ridiculous to think that anyone and everyone should be allowed to play a game when the people wanting to play have continued to break the rules. Sure Apple could forgo 30% cut to a lower percentage, but even still, Apple should be allowed to dictate who gets to play in their garden.
The 30% cut can't be their main problem, since that is the standard from the begining, and actually even the Epic "cat fight" prooved that is not the main problem (not with Apple, but compare the Steam renevue and the Epic store renevue in the past 4 years.. and Steam still cut the 30%.. and Epic only cut 12%, but still the users and the developers are on the 30% cut platform even after 4 years..). Also there are another US company, the Twitch what cut 65% and only left 35% for the streamer.. so actually Apple (not just them, everyone else like Playstation store, Xbox store, Steam store, Google Playstore etc) is give double amount of that 35% with the 70%.. And the main problem is that, one of the main limitation of the innovation is that, if you can't do what you want.. like check the 5 years of 120Hz on Android, they immedietly throwed away their "best" after Apple showed there is a way not to lose 2 hours of battery time with 120Hz, but even gain that 2 hours as extra.. Same with the camera, Apple just increased the 12MP camera lens in the past few years, but they already give you an options to shoot the 24MP default images, what even the 200MP camera lens Android can't offer, they still lilited to 12MP.. If the software and hardware in the same hand, it gives way more possibility like when you need to work with multiple company together to make something.
What about the fact that Google has a HUGE monopoly on search engines, and Microsoft’s extreme dominance over the computer market? The justice department always singles out Apple even if they aren’t guilty, probably because they’re being paid by Google
Apple does not have a monopoly imo (additionally, they are ONLY the more popular product in the US. Not necessarily elsewhere). They just have a better product. There is a huge market of smartphones that are genuinely great. A large portion of the US buys those other products. I buy an iPhone because it just works better. The materials are nicer. The software (and integrations) are significantly better for what I need. I tried flipping to an Android about 2 years ago. I was sick of my iPhone. Guess what, I got everything setup on a flagship Android phone and within 36 hours, I absolutely hated everything about it. I returned it and went back to Apple. It had nothing to do with "green bubble" or "blue bubble". Just bad software. Apple is doing it right. If more companies focused on integration, we'd have better products. Don't get me wrong, having things be open source is important and should happen. But also having a company manage my data from start to finish instead of being handed off 7 times with so much room for errors and compromises, I prefer.
This case is about America. I don't know if you realize that or not. Also nothing crazy is going to happen maybe things like letting people without an iphone update their airpods or let other watches work properly with iphones or make rcs with end to end encryption a thing is as far as its going to go, if anything happens at all. Oh and hopefully let people install apps that apple doesn't have to verify. None of these things will hurt people who use iphones or macs. Most of them will actually help them like being able to securely being able to text someone with an android phone or download an app that they want to, but don't have to if they don't want to like fortnite.
The green bubble, blue bubble issue has always seem very stupid to me. The fact that people are actually making that an issue shows how petty people have become.
People make it an issue because its an issue. Its an issue because apple refuses to support modern photocalls when communicating between an iphone and an android phone, meaning that the messages are sent unencrypted and take longer to receive (although not really noticeable). They have refused to modernise until recently forced to by the EU.
@@sylussquared9724 It’s not an issue. Apple along with any other company has the right to control their technology the way they see fit as long as it’s not effecting customers illegally. If Apple doesn’t want to allow photocall between Android then they can do that. Same thing applies to Google too. If Google doesn’t want to allow photocall with iPhones or use some Google exclusive technology with iPhone users then they have the right to do that in my opinion. You all need to stop complaining about stupid stuff.
@@prestongray7747 not according to the DOJ.
@@anires1195 So what!
@@anires1195 The DOJ is pist off because of "Buy your mom an iPhone" ...
Sue the government for never fulfilling any promises
Amen!!!
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That could be a worldwide thing 😁
Yea but there is probably reasons why
Stop saying nonsense.
Blah, Blah, Blah. Never got the point.
My first computer was an Apple //e.
My first IT job was a computer technician at Computerland.
I got to work on the Apple Lisa in the workshop.
I was disgusted I could not do component repairs on simple modules like power supplies for the markings on the components being shaved off and no access to service repair manuals.
I was further disgusted at the power supply module replacement cost.
I was also very disappointed that Apple turned it's back on Steve Wozniac open ended design and the whole industry of peripherals his design created with the Apple // & /// products, to such an extent I dis-appointed apple from my choice of brand.
Also a novice programmer, moving across to the Intel platform allowed my novice experience to go professional by the age of 19.
Sorry Apple, you lost this fanatic a long long time ago, not that I don't think Billy is not a POS.
Apple vs Windows vs Linux. Apple wins, hands down.
@@l3martin Wow! There's a Kool-Aid fed claim! Based on an analysis of which use cases in which markets using what metrics? Your claim makes as much sense as saying "Green vs Blue vs Red. Red wins, hands down."
@@ffsireallydontcare
During my IT experience of more than 40 years, I've worked on many different technologies across many operating systems that includes MVS, AS/400, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, Windows, OS/2, Netware, Linux, MacOS, and more.
The metrics include usability, reliability, functionality, and overall experience.
And it is not the same as your colour analogy. (face palm)
And... They (Apple) talks/promotes it's pro position on sustainability and recyclable devices. Yet, doesn't seem to be at all interested or serious about making it easier to unlock retired, lost, and outdated units. Loads of MDM locked devices are currently sitting on pallets, gathering dust in a warehouse somewhere. Something to think about when investing in an Apple, especially if the environment really matters to you.
@@l3martin Without any sort of justification for your position your claim is just like my colour analogy.
What a waste of tax payer money. How about the government work on fixing real issues.
I'm sorry to disappoint you my friend, but monopoly is also the real issue that need to be fixed... 😅
@@AndreasGerhard1correct 💯
@@AndreasGerhard1 when too many people forced to be rotten on streets due to drug epidemic, high crime rate, closing shops, sky high rental price, and shops closing...
yeah, iphone is more important, yea, let's debate this on camera for the whole year!
@@nikostalk5730 Did you even know the reason why this lawsuit was made to begin with? You didn't even know how dangerous a monopoly is... Monopoly can caused higher prices, lower quality product, fewer choices, price discrimination, less innovation, deadweight loss, lower wages, less investment, etc... If this thing happen, there would be more people forced to be rotten on the street like you mentioned... If you haven't realized that, then you're just "an infant who still learn how to breathe"...
@@AndreasGerhard1 yes, but talking about monopoly - is the NEXT step after making your population SAFE LIVING. The drug addictions, the gangs, the crimes, all of this must be regulated, not to make it flow like a river, just because some democrats wants to. Bro, there were the times, when NO APPLE ever been created, and people still be on duty, making their life to be better. People helped each other, and now, you force me to forget about it and talk about money-making corpo, nah, i ain't go down for what. I'll let another companies to grow on apple lawsuits and bring better life to all of us, excluding you. You can do whatever you want to.
They want to say that Apple has too much power, but if the government can succeed in this, the government is the one with too much power.
No, Apple just have complete monopoly and predatory practices to kill any competition.
All these things are good for the users
@@DragonGamer-ly3lf Does that matter if they are? Also, they aren't good for the users, as the changes include splitting Apple's company apart which is not great for privacy... Is it great if the government has the right to tell a company what they can and cannot do? What happens when they tell citizens where they can and cannot go, or what job they have to work?
adopting open source just means apple will be easier to spy on by three letter agencies
Absurd.
Yet another “hot debate” for the government to focus on instead of fixing what's really important
"Let´s waste tax payer money on a frivolous lawsuit against one of our biggest companies, so ppl won´t notice all the shit we do elsewhere!"
@@asnasc If it were up to me I would defund the government and put the world's most talented scientists, phycologists and doctors in charge. The current ones in charge are wiping their butts with the power they don't deserve
Virtual Chest hmm bets I'm thinking possibly from a very far? ,👑🐰🪔🥚⚜️🎩👞💺🧢👟🧧🧨🎆🎇🎏🎎
Right up there with them going after AI because fake nudes came out of Taylor Swift. Even though nude fakes of celebreties and regular people have been around for decades.
I still dont understand what negative there is if apple complies with what the government wants. People would have more freedom to use their iphones how they want. And the ones that wanna stay locked down can continue to use only apple products and just use the app store to get all their apps.
Edit: fixed so many typos, lol
You're correct....This is a good thing because it forces Apple to play a little more fair. The ONLY thing it's restricting Apple's ability to monopolize. As consumers, you would think that a business being called out and targeted for such behavior would be a good thing... But then again, Apple loyalists are so brainwashed that they see ANY move against Apple as a bad thing...Even if it would benefit them in the end. Most of the responses here defending Apple are "I love my Mac...because it just works!".....Well that's cool and all, but what does that have to do with WHY Apple is being sued? lol.
I love my walled garden and refuse to ever use android and this bs is exactly bs and I believe Apple should be left alone because nobody is “forced” into anything there’s a reason why some choose Apple and others want to use android
You're absolutely right, I bought an iPhone and a MacBook Pro because "I" wanted to, I make the choices about what products I want to buy, not governments! If I wanted an Android Phone I'd have bought one, but I didn't, so I didn't , why can't governments and the EU for that matter work that one out?? its not rocket science.
So you liked to be controlled by China. Re 12:53 member Apple in controlled by China.
Did anybody tell you that a hardware backdoor was discovered in M3 chips and 13th gen Intel CPUs? Now your device is as easy to hack as any other...lols
@@a_DiGiTaL_Slave_Labs Thanks for your very interesting comment, I am aware of the hardware backdoor of the M3 chips. As for the Intel chips that's nothing to do with Apple, that's Intel's problem which doesn't just apply Mac's as PC's will using them too. The BackDoor problem with the M3 chips is a really bad problem for Apple admittedly, but its also a good thing too in a way, because Apple has been made aware of it now and will resolve it hopefully with their next gen of "M" chips. Sadly as I'm sure you're aware that nothing in tech is totally unhackable, even Android users with their Samsung Galaxy Tabs & Phones running the latest Snapdragon chips will get the same treatment sooner or later down the line, because sadly hackers don't discriminate anymore, if they can't get pleasure from hacking you on a software level they'll try to get you on a hardware level, Which is I'm sure you'll agree is a very sad and pathetic thing to do to anyone. so if people think they're safe with a Snapdragon chip, think again, they just haven't tried it ....Yet .
yeah, that's not the issue...it's compatibility with android phones and accessories...that's the issue...I should be able to use an android phone with an apple watch ultra 2...but they don't work together...
Drug rings, gang wars, international conflicts, economic crises: **exist**
The Government: *"ApPLe nOt bEinG faiWr 😤"*
The real problems
but all those problems, most of the people uses an iphone.
@@Evinetic Or cLimAte ChaNGe lol
Each has a cause.
Drug Rings were conducted by Brit-ish East India Trading Co into China for Rothschild and his puppet royals. CIA was set up by British Intelligence via John Dee (whom 007 was based). Drugs fund Black Ops, were smuggled in the corpses of Vietnam war soldiers.
International Conflicts are fabricated. They put countries into debt to central bankster cartel and proffit their military industry barons, coountries insolvant and bankrupted placed stealthily under foreign occupation by the creditors to pay back the debt by taxation, rates, penalties, fines, etc... The most relevant for America is the Civil War that bankrupted it. WW1 & 2 did all the commonwealth countries that based their constitution on the principles of the Constitution of the USA thereby limiting the powers of the royals over them.
Economic Crisis is due to central bankster and treasury chicanery by the misuse of monopoly fiat currency.
The biggest gang wars are military infant-ry destroying countries to rebuild that put them into bankruptcy to expand the empire of the west (~dead at law).
This is so stupid. If you want an android and its products then buy it. If you want an iPhone and Apple products then buy that. Govt is focused on the wrong things.
Exactly
The government is pro-choice EXCEPT when it comes to your phone.
@@TheWallReports yep you're right
Apple believes privacy regardless if your doing illegal things or not so they can't get apples cooperation. Android is known for being hacked and alot of companies using Android work with the FBI so they will give them your info so before yaw start saying apple this or that remember ven tho they gone charge for there products that just works out the box and is reliable
I'll Pay 50$ for a cord to charge my mac because I know unlike Android apple products are going to work together so smooth and rarely will your mac crash
The Tim Cook quote "Buy your mom an iPhone" will blow up in his face now because of the DOJ 😂
Buy your mom an iPhone… will blow up in HIS wait what your moms a boy?
@@gflorin7761 But she does not like iPhones.
Nope I will buy her anything but an iPhone, who's laughing now Cook, huh who's laughing now 😂
That was the lamest statement a CEO could make.
My mother-in-law LOVED her iPad and later iPhone. I miss her so much. COPD sucks.
Why doesn’t the government look into Walmart?
apple has got the money
Because Walmart isn’t a trillionaire, and cost of operation of Walmart is expensive as h3ll compare to Apple.
As in ACTUAL cost, not oh $100k employees and overpricing materials imports as “business expense”
@@MP-vc4nu apples still paid more taxes a year then Walmart 🥱
@@MP-vc4nuWalmart doesn’t pay any tax and they raise prices in certain things and have predatory shopping tactics. I worked there for a long time I know lol. They are more corrupt than Apple I promise you lol.
The thing is, no-one is forcing anybody to use Apple products.. if you don't like how things work, just get a PC/Android. When I switched to Apple it was like stepping into the future. Even today, I still get these "wtf" moments. I like that Apple is BIG on security, privacy, and how everything smoothly slides with speed, all while synced to other devices. I like how the products retain value, and how a macOS update makes it feel like getting a new computer. If what the government is trying to do changes any of that, that will for sure change my life. Why they wanna step us back.. df? Maybe focus on the plastic in the ocean, or the water in Flint Michigan instead. Dam! smh....
Exactly. Ironically we’re forced to accept any violation of freedoms and the constitution by government.
Use your brain. They are just making it harder to switch.
Wouldn't it be better if Apple devices could be paired with anything? Why are you guys so protective of a megacorporation that practices some of the worst anticonsumer approaches out there.
@tempname8263
They are brainwashed iZombies
@@tempname8263 You’d have to be in the club to understand. And this is coming from someone raised on android/PC. Not only that, but you could say the same about google. When I switched to Apple, it wasn’t like it was a walk in the park to do. Took me weeks to untether myself from the drive 🤷🏾♂️
@@tempname8263Because technology has somehow become a part of people’s identity. You’re judged by the brand of laptop or phone you use. These consumers feel personally attacked when something negative is said and need to defend these corporations. It’s ridiculous.
I choose to buy apple products based on the quality, and the way I can use one, and still have it available on another, ie., iPad, or MacBook Pro. Also, If apple is sincere about privacy, I believe that this is what the government is truly after.
Apple products it only one that good and have quality samsung the one who have to supply Apple with display for all iphone and parts for iphone I know u Learn something new tonight alot u buy Apple products u don't who male it For it to work Apple is not a Manufactory Samsung does they are the one number Manufacturer in world who have supply Apple or other companies samsung they TV there own phone laptops and Many more I hope u learn somethings need tonight alot things Apple don't want u to know is samsung who supply them with parts
@@rayandsharica362 they were also buying camera parts and sensors from SONY too.
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The video is wrong, it is actually a smoke screen to make you believe the government is why Apple is failing. Apple being miles behind everyone else in the AI space is what is killing Apple. Ask Siri if you don't believe me. 😂😂😂
i take it you have never owned a premium 1000 dollar android phone they work just as good as a iPhone and is just as a secure as an iphone you mindless sheep always bring up apple is all about privacy and security really studies have shown that they android just as secure as the iOS and i also dont see how android phones less private as a iphone at least i have the choice to side load apps if i want without the risks of jail breaking my phone
WTF is the gov talking about. I use an ipad and a windows ( I don’t use a phone ) and it works FINE. maybe not ultra seamless, but don’t pretend android + windows is ultra seamless.
Same This is the dumbest crap I’ve heard in a long time
Android isn't intentionally making it harder, and it's much easier for android developers to make software that integrates with other operating systems.
Yea but it’s still worse bcz those people don’t make the oses so the intergraion still sucks and also if they exist… do you even use them and would a random person find them go tho the janky setup prosses just to get rubbish that doesn’t work
Actually it is. If you've ever connected an android phone to a windows computer to transfer a file, then it's super easy. It shows up as an actual disk in file explorer which you can see everything even from the root of the filesystem
If you connect an android phone to a mac, nothing shows up in finder, and you have to install an incredibly buggy app made by google that only works half of the time.
Apple is intentionally making the experience worse to force users to switch.
Bro you have to connect your phone just use airdrop oh wait you can’t also you said that you have to use a bad app made by GOOGLE
The gov is focusing on the wrong things. Poverty rates are going up, taxes looks like SAT scores, and inflation is just gross. So attacking Apple instead of genuine problems in the country is disappointing
Exactly very well said
Isnt that crazy !!
@@mixalis6168 yeah only saying the country should fix other things instead of worrying about what phone somebody uses
Misdirection
It could cost them dearly during the election year. I don’t think Biden administration has enough wiggle room to play with beloved US company like Apple.
imagine a sifi story being real in 2027 were the gov could log into ur iphone
good luck, I will be using a nokia 3310 by then.
We are already there, I'm more afraid of my toaster getting too smart and trying to kill me....
I'm not sure how so many people feel so compelled to protect a trillion dollar company from scrutiny. I'm sure, like every other trillion dollar company, apple is completely benevolent and always put the consumer first.
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Whether Apple is a $1 company or $1tn company, no one should be forced to change their products to suit a competitor or their competitors user base. Yes they should be scrutinised for any malpractices etc and that’s understandable but to be taken to court over Green vs Blue is just beyond pathetic. If Apple isn’t providing a service or product for you, then you have other options, if those other options aren’t as good as Apple, then is that really Apple’ fault? They’re a totally different company and have zero reasons to make things cross-compatible.
@@TheStudyyRoomwhat about not letting game streaming apps on App Store due to violent nature of video games while at the same time keeping video streaming apps on the store... Why? Video streaming apps also stream violent content.... Why double standards? Apple tries everything to make it harder to switch to other devices.. That's the problem
@@TheStudyyRoom It's got nothing to do with a COMPETITOR'S user base. It has to do with the user base, no matter the competitor. In almost every other aspect of consumer electronics, all the brands play nice with each other. I can connect any brand of Blu-ray player to any TV, and they work. The interconnects are universal. An HDMI cable works between any brand of TV or player. If Apple were making TVs? They'd have a different power plug and connector and require a specific cable provider. Their Blu-Ray player would only play Apple discs.
Maybe I’m looking at it in a different perspective but if a company creates a device and accessories to only work with each other then that alone should allow me to make a informed decision as to whether I should buy their product or go elsewhere. Would it be nice for to be cross compatible? I’m sure, but once again it’s their product and they want to keep it closed then so be it. As a consumer, we have the choice whether we want to buy their products or not. It’s like saying I want to buy a XBOX series X disc and I want it to work with the PS5 because they’re games consoles. My best friend has an android, and he’s had an android since the early days and I switched from Sony Erickson to iPhone and for 17 years we’ve been absolutely fine messaging each other whether it was sms or via what’s app or messenger, we had options and we used them. I genuinely believe this whole green vs blue bubble stigma is in the states. Europe and Asia, no one really cares. That maybe due to androids popularity here but those who converse between iPhone and android, guess what? Are doing absolutely fine and have no issues
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, Why does the government want to shut down Apple? My entire family uses Apple products in all of us use iPhones as well
Iphone is only phone out there just like we have all different brands of car u can choose from a phone is just a phone it all work the same people just buy Iphone because it have a apple logo on it
Bro not everyone has an Apple device
go cry in a corner
oh well guess you will be buying adult products that are nOT overpriced and overhyped..
all of you guys apple fanboys will be forced to get android soon see you soon guys lmfaoo
I think the best way to break a monopoly is not to force it to break apart but remove the protections it relies on. Remove Apple's ability to sue for breaking their walled garden and you'll find people developing ways to sideload apps, reverse-engineer iMessage, develop better drivers for Apple peripherals.
Sure, Apple will fight back and patch whatever exploits let you sideload apps. And then people will find new ones. It will be a constant cat-and-mouse game, but I think that is the best way to solve the issue while respecting Apple's freedom to design a product as they see fit.
But why reverse engineer something that people seem to hate on so much? I find that super funny. If you don't like iOS stick with android. If you don't like MacOS stick with Windows. Angry because it can't be hacked to do things that breaks the seamlessness? Again just stop with the nonsense .
@@theiceman1972exactly. I don’t get this mentality. You hate it so much but yet you want it open enough to use it? Just like you said, if you don’t like iPhone then use and be happy with android and vice versa. I really scratch my head with this 😂
“Government lawyers” is a FILTHY term. The worst of the worst.
These people would be bussing tables if they weren’t government wasn’t aligned against the people.
Sorry, @shineareaeruil.... removing the security that keeps my iPhone secure from the same people that make viruses and un-controlled apps for Android is NOT my idea of breaking a monopoly. They just want all systems equally bad. Apparently, Apple is making other products worse by making theirs better. Read the lawsuit - that's the gist of it. Only a f'ing stupid lawyer would bother to voice that out loud. I have NEVER heard such a stupid argument. Translate it over to cars: Let's say Mercedes is making the best cars on the planet (true or false, just for arguments sake). So, now they are getting sued for making a better car that a Yugo? If you think that is ok, then you should give your head a shake.
You're absolutely right... But my gut tells me there's something deeper at play here. I recall some information that I came across when Apple decided to take it's manufacturing to China. China has a policy that everything belongs to CCP. Can it be that Apple made a bad deal, inevitably ceding company control/leverage to CCP?
Do the charges include racketeering on storage & RAM pricing ?
Yes
Apple might be charging exorbitant prices for storage and memory, but there is a good reason why these are built into their infrastructure.
For various reasons, I am running 3 laptops running Windows, Fedora, and MacOS. The experience of Windows and Linux don't even come close. Part of this reason is Apple's closed ecosystem.
My 2 cents: you get what you pay for - if you want to complain about the price, buy something else. My Macbook is my daily driver and I won't easily change that.
Apple Fan BOOOOY@@l3martin
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I'm not talking about the underlying OS - I'm talking about usability for most people's day-to-day tasks. Apple's solutions just work - no need to squeeze the most performance out of everything.
And yes, I also have more than 40 years IT experience, anything from MVS, OS/400, HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Linux, Netware, OS/2, Windows, ...
And the way that Apple makes it all comes together is next level. I avoided Apple for the longest time. After one week in January this year, I was hooked.
One of the key characteristics of a good system, is how much time you spend thinking about the system whilst you are using it. Pretty much like a good shoe - you don't think about it, you just walk/run.
On the desktop, MacOS is really doing that - after you get used to it. On server, my preference is Linux. In both cases, I think about the work that I'm doing, not the software.
that is typical practice of price discrimination as per economic textbooks , although same as tax system which pays the lawmakers too .
So basically., the premise is that Apple products work seamlessly together with each other while their competitors products don't.
Basically, the argument is that Apple should make it just as seamless to integrate MS and Android devices with their Apple devices, even though the competition can't do it with their own devices.
The government should focus on real issues.
Real like crime and homeless and inflation criss 😂 my government is great
Suing a company that makes phones for people to buy at their choice is sad
If Apple really cared about our privacy, they would have used RCS years ago instead of defaulting to SMS for non-iPhone users.
If also really bothers me that it took them this long to put USB.C on the phones
If you don't like it, then don't buy it. How about that? Do you really need the government to force that decision?
They only put usb c because of the E.U
@@michaelbleidistel9506 Exactly and if Apple is not up to their standard, stick to an Android.
The blue bubble originally meant it was free and secure. Now it just means it's more secure. When they add end to end encryption to their RCS implementation, maybe they should change it, but they have subtly added a new feature, text animations, that will by design not be implemented in the current RCS standard, and theres still things like shareplay which could work, and things like games or payments that they wouldn't do without imessage
I think Apple should treat this lawsuit with the total derision it deserves
Good I hope the lawsuit wins because I own iPhone devices and I don’t like how Apple manages the devices I heard androids a lot better and last longer
@@BargerClanYou are so right, I am a Samsung user and it's way better.
antitrust exists. get over it
Androids don’t last longer
@@deshawn4077 Um my Grandparents had the same Android phone for 7 years before finally upgrading. It worked just fine with no issues whatsoever, but this needed to happen because Apple is so crooked.
Government overreach.
This is a lawsuit about "Feelings" and government should never be involved in feelings.
I love my walled garden. Stuff just works.
Same here. If I wanted an android phone I‘d get one, but I don’t.
But your preference doesn't count shiet. DOJ's count shiet.
Kind of like a prison! Have fun in your "garden."
Does on non Apple devices too.
Android and Google have built their Empire why Apple?
Cuz why not?
@@Martinwhoo because apple won't breach its customers privacy like all the others. In other words they won't play the game
@@CaraCatalfamoYet here we are, unfortunately I do feel bad for those who use this phone or the products associated because this is not a good thing for the company or the consumer.
Because Google/Android let other manufacturers use their software in their phones and let the other phone manufacturers tweak the Android operating system to work with the phones they may.
You cannot buy and Apple phone with Android operating system and vise Vera. You want an Apple watch because you want the features they. Sorry you have to buy an Apple phone. Etc
@@CaraCatalfamo BINGO…which is why I will never in a million years buy an android phone. I value my PRIVACY. I feel bad for android users Who unfortunately don’t ever think about privacy when it comes to android products.
Sounds to me like the competition just sucks and can’t keep up so someone is angry
As an Apple user, this is not going to happen unless Trump gets into office. Apple has its own platform, I am happy with it, I have used android devices and they have always let me down. The bottom line is trust, that is the core of what I see with Apple, Cook has held the helm well in my view at Apple, sure some apple products may be marginally expensive, what I am getting for that money is I trust Apple more than Android and Microsoft trying to shaft me on the back end on their marketing strategies and stability. I see everything up front with Apple, more reliable and stable, so if the competitors are whining because Apple has a superior product, then they need to improve their came. The only competition out there that is stepping up to the plate in the Android arena is Samsung, so if you are going to go after Apple, then you need to go after Samsung. It all boils down to one thing, product loyalty, my and every other Apples users are loyal to the Apple brand because overall it is more reliable.
I was thinking the same thing too, why is there such a big focus on Apple alone? If the government is going after one company with all of these problems then they better at least be consistent about it. I’ve had nothing but iPhones for the past 10 years and they’ve always been reliable for me. I’ve tried to operate different Android phones from friends that own them (most people I know own Androids) and while I consider myself fairly tech savvy I have more troubles navigating those phones.
I only use Mac Book Pro and the I MAC Computers. I had a i phone and I had major problems with Storage and other things. It's way to expensive for the average person to buy one so they usually get an android. I just use their computers and I wouldn't go back to a PC ever because of all the Viruses and junk I use to get on a PC. I've had my MAC BOOK PRO FOR ALMOST nine years and it runs great. All my other PC's I had didn't last past four years.
Maybe this is why Apple has market.
if you didn't get frustrated at windows, and throw your PC at the wall, maybe, just maybe it would have lasted longer.
As a Man with cognitive Dificulties, I emigrated from Windows to Mac more than 20 years ago because i couldn't make sense of the software. Since i moved to Apple i have never looked back as you can do the same things with apple on its made simpler. i am now into programming when before i couldnt set up an email account.
As a guy that started off on Apple many many many moons ago.... I switched to Windows. Can do anything you want.... on Mac.... you probably can, but you'll need 55 different gestures, and maybe 32 different dongles.
WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO CARES ABOUT BUBBLE COLOR IN TEXT MESSAGES WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE 🤦♀️
I actually do love to tell the difference when I’m sending a text to someone like I physically would hate if it was same color or if I couldn’t tell my friend lost internet connection and that’s why it’s suddenly green so I’d know she’d not respond immediately on Snapchat or messenger.
Ever since the bubble color thing everything in tech world goes down WTF I love Apple just because they’re not android or Microsoft and I can actually physically use Apple tech without debilitating urge to throw it at a wall like I have wanted with other tech devices when they constantly fail my trust.
Also yes while my iPhone is slowly going out and my watch is leaning towards end and I have the second hand MacBook for extra two years above its life and it’s getting louder fans or my AirPods wanna take a break from me so far Apple has been the only tech company which products I have not even considered to toss out just for the annoyance they can be when they’re lived in a bit over the regular shelf period (and my moms last years android is getting on my nerves more than my physically dying decade old iPad I also got from a second hand tech store about four years ago and many years above its shelf life so that alone is saying things about a tech company)
I love Apple for what it is and how it is bc FINALLY I’ve found a proper tech company products that my demanding persona can actually use and feel safe using (as I largely appreciate Apple’s way of security and ecosystem integration making it the most smooth experience that I never had with anything else before)
Government should stay out of things that aren’t their business just because of peer pressure from people with less understanding the depths.
And USB-C was already enough (I hate usb-c cables like some disgusting thing my heart lies in lightning cables also I hate how usb-c collects impossibly cleanable dusts and threatens to break )
Apple has had data breaches in the past and many exploits in their OSs. It is not necessarily more secure than a *Good* android phone and I really hate this assumption and having that sense of false true security. It is a very secure OS, however Google pixels also do a bang up job here.
Apple recently supported RCS, but it would be nice if they had a different color for that, and if they could offer Imessage and other services like that on competing platforms. I am a person who switched from Apple to Google pixels and the thing I hate the most is people wanting me to use an Apple service I can't use on Android because apple won't offer them to us. The common thing people tell me is "just get an iPhone" but I don't want one, I just want that one particular service from Apple on my preferred device. You can use Google services on iPhone, why not the other way around? If your family or what not relies on a certain service, you feel forced into buying and using a phone from Apple you might not want to use (like in my case) and that is the problem I have with Apple.
You saying the "pressure of people who don't understand the depths" can be thrown right back at you.
It's not the color of the bubble that matters. It's the functions behind it.
in honesty the government needs to be sued for all their negligence and spending hard earned tax dollars to fund wars that matter not to the average American. all the more while starving and homeless veterans roam the streets in the 10s of 1000s
also at this point with the tiktok ban and many other pay apps being banned the government is overstepping their boundaries of what they should be allowed to do.
if the government is allowed to do that then they are allowed to do this to any company meaning you are not really allowed to run your business the way you want
Government is just power hungry and can't see someone trya do their own thing 😕
Apple … been with from them from the beginning … arrogant jerks.
Never listen to loyal patrons. Serves them right !
Either can be inclusive or divisive.
Trying to sabotage people who don’t own Apple products is ridiculous!!
Heck…you can’t even pay your apple bill unless you use an apple product to do it on….why don’t they work on that?
The other day I bought a Samsung Galaxy phone, and the seller told me that there was no charger in the box, so I bought a charger as well, and then asked me if I listen to music, and I said yes, and he said I should buy a Bluetooth hands-free because the new phones don't have 3.5mm jack. So, I bought Galaxy Buds too.
I think many Apple employees actually believe that all this bullying by Apple is for the good of customers and security etc. Meanwhile the world isn’t buying it anymore.
Apple has been bullying everyone from customers to developers to Android users to repairs people, for years, and they definitely deserve to be sued. I hope they’re forced to change their ways deeply.
And I say this as an Apple user and stock holder, who wishes them the best long term. They’ve lost their way and their reputation is falling to the dump, and if they don’t change it’ll become worse and worse.
LMAO THIS GUY 🤓i hate apple but wait wait, i hold stock so you can't say anything bad about me.
@@anires1195clearly you did that regardless, without having anything meaningful to say about his argument.
After all this stuff started, I finally realized, even though you pay for & own a iPhone, you really dont own it, because apple still got their products on lockdown. If I pay close to a $1000 for a phone, I want to be able to download & do what I want, cause it’s my damn phone.
Get an Android, they don't shove that Iphone down your throat.
@@maxx1nsaneMainstream Android phone manufacturers do shove plenty of shit down customer throats, though. That's why I stopped buying Samsung. They're as bad if not worse than Apple. They're trying to do what Apple does, while also putting advertisements into the operating system and forcing bloatware on customers. At least they were when I ditched them.
The only reasonable options at this point are phones with lesser hardware specs, like Pine and Libre devices. And in some places, carriers refuse to allow them on the network because of their deals with phone manufacturers and because they don't get to force their bloatware on you to spy on everything you do.
@@p5eudo883I get that but forcing apple to open up their software will only introduce more cracks through which companies like Facebook or Amazon can snoop on your messages, shoppings, emails and so on.
As I mention many times, I do not agree with a lot of things Apple is doing but Privacy and having control over your encryption keys is more important than not being able to send a picture to an Android device.
For that I have always used Signal or emails. I accept that those are not as secure as iMessages so I act accordingly.
Android is full of bloatware like you said and I would not want that to come to Apple.
I am afraid that brainless people that think they don't have anything to hide will accept control just for convenience.
@@p5eudo883you must've bought some shite phone buddy.. Samsung doesn't give you ads bro..
@@p5eudo883 buy a good spec android and root it for your use
I don’t think the gov understands the phrase “mind ur own beeswax”
Yes, I love the walled garden. I just updated my devices to iOS 17.4.1 and my iPhone XS has green bubbles!!!!
Too much control, why should i be forced to upgrade my watch when it still works just fine?
no ones forcing you just keep the watch it still gets updates for the next 5 years after and will always continue to work as long as you take care of it. I don’t understand why people think they’re being forced, it’s not like there’s an annoying message telling you to upgrade unless you just need an excuse to buy a new watch every year.
@@Alex-eo4re apple holds back features and strategically releases them to entice users to buy the next product. an example is usb-c for iPhone.
@@person_with_opinions tbh that’s true that they hold back features 😭 kinda sad that they where forced by the Eu to switch to usbc
@@person_with_opinionsthey adopted usb c through gritted teeth because they had to, they would not have changed to usb c if the European Union didn’t force them to
@@JayGee6996 but apple more tried to portray it as a new feature
I doubt the government is gonna win by sueing Apple nah
Yaah
The government, not some random. The government is far above some tech company, the government is winning easily
@@fulltimecommenteryeah a tech company that is richer than 100 countries with so much power too.
@@Xenia-el4ny the us government has much more cash than apple, what are you on mr. Apple rider?
@@fulltimecommenteryes a company with more than a billion customers than US, What are you on Samsung Girl?
"entire I'm a Mac, I'm a PC rant about how Apple has better software, is more fun"
Mac still has no games. People *still* want/use Office on Macs
Right. Absolutely more "fun".
"Many people there is generally a stigma"
Yeah, there is. There are plenty of research papers on it and how it leads to bullying, how it's a stigma, and how Apple has documents on how that's intentional to bully people into "buy your mom an iphone".
Funny how the tune was so different back in the days of the Microsoft monopoly suit.
"Apple is the best company in the country"
Yeah, you're totally a trustworthy source. And the best company absolutely would abuse and crush third party repair shops, refuse to let you actually own your own product, for you to replace instead of being able to repair, and contribute massively to the e-waste issue with their fragile wires and proprietary charging ports.
What a load of shit.
Apple is way too big and considering it's size and success it's products are a joke (lets introduce a new model phone every year), it's software is a joke (lets introduce major software updates to often and give them a new name every time and get the customers to test them because we are too lazy to care), "oh yeah, lets launch that VR thing to coz its... er its... er what is it?
Only ever had an iPhone 4 and dumped it as soon as i saw the Note 3 and never went back. iPad Pro for 9 months and it got sold very quickly for a proper tablet with a much better operating system - S8 Ultra (free pen which actually feels like a pen!).
Macs = always relied on it until... 'Sonoma' was flushed down the Apple lavatory, my 2019 mac is not fit to be used with it & is now slower, full of bugs and the fan is running all the time = GOODBYE CRAPPLE FOREVER.
absolutely zero desire to use Office on my Mac. Hell don't even want to use it on my PC.
@@theiceman1972 glad to know you represent ALL Mac users and that the Mac users that I have listened to talk about getting Office for Mac or seen using Excel on a Mac are all just figments of my imagination.
@@Wing0Alchemist did you see me anywhere say all Mac users? Please don’t try to start a debate. This is my opinion and is just as valid as any. I’m talking about me and me only. If you see something in what I said that’s referring to all please show. I use pages and if needed for someone else I can save it in any word format. So again, why do “I” need office? Not to mention that office is a monthly subscription now. Pages came “Free” with Apple purchases. Maybe learn to comprehend a little better. My does not = All
They have Apple Arcade.... but let's be real here.... it's crap.
Don’t like Apple??? Leave it alone but something else!!!!! Leave Apple the hell alone!!!!
This is so dumb. Its simple. If you like Apple / iProducts than buy them. If you do not like them, you have many other choices. Its not like T-Mobile / ATT / Version is telling you that you have to buy iPhone to use cell towers. Now that would be a monopoly. People vote with their wallet, and if iPhone is the most popular phone in the USA, than that is what people like and want.
I stopped using Apple crap 2 years ago, so I couldn't give 2 craps.
The government really needs to stop stepping over boundaries. Especially when they don't know what they're dealing with. It'll be a real shame if they ruin apple's eco system that they keep at a high quality.
The reality is that every company is going to look for an edge they can leverage. And, it only becomes bad when they become VERY successful … it happened with ibm, google, microsoft, apple, xerox, general motors, standard oil, Intel…. ATT, etc.
3:05 we are not going to talk about that playlist 😂
I pay the Apple tax because I actually love the walled garden.
Then ur just dumb
No, you pay the Apple tax because you're a sheep. The 'walled garden' does not offer any value to you watsoever.
It great to have different Operating systems in mobile category but the cross platform working should be made absolutely better. Yes the government should force them to work on this. Apple watch and samsung phone excellent, but never works
Finally the government does something good.
Please don't succeed like Apple then… I mean it's obvious that this is an Attack on the profit margins and revenue. As much as Apple may possibly be recession-proof it scares this DOJ and they want control.
Just get yourself a Samsung or google device. I don’t want to be in androids ecosystem.
I’d want options for color for bubbles, customization of themes for iMessage. Idc about the whole blue vs green. Also background photo options for iMessage. These things come from the concept of how you can do some of these things on WhatsApp/Messenger (like they brought in Stickers)
fpt already went over this it’s not a big deal that america is being sensitive.
The bubble issue is very real. Every once in a while, I'll begin texting with a prospective client. A green bubble eventually leads to, "After carefully examining my upcoming schedule, I'm not in a position to accept new clients at the moment."
If nothing else, a green bubble indicates that you are communicating with someone that sends texts from the keyboard on their phone. Like a caveman. Like it's 2004.
Punishing companies for being successful doesn't seem like a winning strategy... There are plenty of underhanded things Apple does and has in its policies, but this case doesn't address any of them.
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"Get your Mom an Iphone" could come back to bite Tim in the behind.
Didn’t Tim “App,e” endorsed this government? Funny how that works, huh…
Yeah the bribe wasn’t big enough and also apple has a lot of money to take from.
I am a very ex-Apple, now Andriod and Samsung user. However, This is a fight the US government should not be picking. Yes there are issues when using Apple specific eco-systems by Android users, but with there being about 3 times more Android users than iOS users, its a smaller issue than it appears. But the main reason the US government as well as the EU are going after Apple is not for users sakes, but rather to attract attention away from illegal immigration issues. As you have said, it's a big, headline and attention grabbing statement, but it would take years to get to court, if it ever did. But the announcement has dropped other and far bigger issues off the front page. I don't like the stuffiness of the Apple eco-system, which is why I replaced all my Apple products, but I will defend their right to have that system all day long. They created a system which provides a reliable and safe service to millions of people around the world and that should not be an issue.
BAck in the day, Apple had an ad compagne for mac, Titled "mac vs PC"
And then Bill Gates appeared on that big screen behind Steve Jobs and said.... here's Office and Internet Explorer. The crowd booed and yet clapped simultaneously.... they used office, and were happy.
Right. Because Apple giving their customers choice by allowing them to install 3rd party software, use 3rd party app stores, use alternative payment processors and basically giving them more freedom and choice is OBVIOUSLY a hideously bad thing. Apple could absolutely open up their platform and provide consumers with more choice without there being any downside to consumers. But they don't want to because they like being a monopoly, exerting control and price gouging. This is what happens when a lifestyle company pretends to be a technology company.
About damn time the government is doing something about monopolizing company.
How is it a Monopoly please explain?
Surely the ultimate arbiter in this should be us consumers. We have the choice to go closed eco system route with Apple or more open with Samsung. I genuinely believe this has more to do with government control than a concern for our best interests. A closed eco system will be harder for the government to snoop on its citizens (although I am sure they can still do it) and also to control actions / access information. I watched a video on RUclips claiming the benefits of Samsung and the fact their eco system is much larger including things like fridges that can tell you when something is going bad or a washing machine that can tell you when it’s done. The more open an eco system is the more it is vulnerable to hackers and compatibility issues. But the one thing that I ask myself is that as a species have we lost the ability to work anything out by ourselves? For me the Apple eco system does everything I want it to.
I can’t believe how stupid people can be about crap like this. Let Apple do what Apple is going to do. And let android do what androids going to do
But why should the consumer be punished? Shouldn't we be allowed to buy what we want? You literally CAN'T use an apple watch with an Android device. It's not the "works but won't be pretty" scenario, it literally can't happen..
I think WE THE PEOPLE need to sue the Gov for a host of things that they are allowing, starting with the invasion at the border. The Gov vs Apple is so freaking petty. We all know Bill Gates is very much impeded with gov officials......how about starting there first.
This has less to do with the government considering Apple a monopoly and more to do with Apple not doing exactly what the government wants when it wants. I'm referring of course to privacy. I have more of a problem with a government that believes it has the power to do basically what it wants. 2A
They are crazy if they actually think this won’t destroy their own government
Imagine google making RUclips android only app! Thats how apple works.. it sucks.
Yes - Apple has too much control and is using it in an underhanded way. And if you can't see that... well, you're blind.
That’s what I’d do if I was Apple. I’d just close everything and go away. “We the people” in both Europe and the USA clearly don’t like our iPhones as we let our courts do what they do
0:06 Is a missed opportunity to say iLeaving instead.
Green vs Blue Bubbles....ridiculous...As irritating as some things are that Apple implements, they should have autonomy. Seriously if things get that bad, I'll just switch products.
DOJ wants you to go android.
Everyone I know uses WhatsApp.
Thats the point , its so hard to switch because mac and ipad will be very poor on other device except iphone thats the point
@@dogieball573 Have you tried getting an Android phone to work seamlessly with Windows. It doesn't because Windows is a PoS. The issue is not Apple.
@@dogieball573 it’s not hard to use a Macbook without a phone made by Apple lol I literally used to do it all the time, that’s literally like comparing a windows laptop to a laptop made by Apple, there’s no difference with or without an iPhone from my experience on both. Sure you can have an iPad and a Mac book but why do you need the phone made by that company to use the device? You don’t need it at all. When people go out an try to find a new device they mostly look at the software. By the way on iPhones there's an app made By google called switch to android and you can use it to transfer your info over to an android device if you needed to.
As an Apple user beginning in 1980, I am all for the Government. My apple II Plus became the number one PC at the time because of 3rd party software and hardware. Now Apple wants it all.
Apple building their own walled garden doesn't mean others have to join it if they don't want to.😂
This is a win for the right to repair advocacy where Apple locked their systems just for them to have the ability to repair.
I believe in the power of the Apple ecosystem, which offers seamless integration across all devices and services, empowering me with unparalleled convenience and efficiency. Opting into the Apple ecosystem is not merely a choice; it's a strategic decision that enhances my productivity and connectivity. Instead of focusing on insignificant matters like blue bubble messages, I prioritize recognizing the substantial benefits that the Apple ecosystem brings to individuals and businesses.
You are right but what about the poor android users having their feelings hurt??!??! 🤣🤣🤣
if apple get a more government friendly ceo, then I am never updating my apple devices again.
At the end of the day this lawsuit I feel will fail.
For the consumer, it’s a choice.
We are not forced to buy Apple, Android, Windows, or Mac.
WE MAKE A CHOICE and stick with it.
We are free to CHOOSE!
This lawsuit is a joke!!!
Exactly.. Samsung fans laugh at us Apple fans
No no no... Apple made almost nothing hardware related they designed much of it. But they didn't make it. Then no... macs and iphones do NOT work well together, I had a terrible experience & returned it all.
I'm PC and Android all the way; Linux too. But the majority of phones are Android, as too the majority of computers are Windows PC, so I don't see any monopoly.
Apple users have this "it just works" argument they like to use. Well Android and Windows just work with every device out there nicely.... except Apple products.
This is a heavy exaggeration. Competition is helpful. It’s annoying how many people genuinely believe competition is harmful
I think that it is ridiculous to make any manufacturer have to produce a product that is compatible with an unknown amount of technology. For example, texting android vs texting iPhone...one is clearly better, iPhone to iPhone but you can still text message any cell phone on the planet...even dumb phones. They do not make it impossible to do it outside the ecosystem and it works rather well so why should Apple be responsible for making that outside experience the same as what they are responsible for which is what they own, their devices, their software and the updates they receive. So what if these awesome add ons are great with one thing but not another? It isn't Apple's fault, it is the fault of the manufacturer or designer or engineer behind those other non Apple devices. Apple built devices and software that work with other things they have built...they have standardized also and have made allowances for changes like USB C to accommodate outside influences to keep the companies products competitive in our existing society. It works, why should Apple be responsible for making a product that works amazing with every possible device that links to it? That is ridiculous. Even the human population is not like this. For example, our bodies can heal and repair from many traumas and illnesses. There is a certain part of the population that will succumb to those traumas and illnesses too but overall, we are resilient enough to for the most part as a species, survive. It should be up to the makers of the associated technologies to find out how to be compatible with both ecosystems if we are talking just the biggest two...Apple and Android. Many companies have done this and made decent profit.
So those that buy Apple and complain that it won't work with everything...my car does not work with my sofa but I don't complain. It is not the responsibility of my car manufacturer nor is it the responsibility of my sofa maker to ensure compatibility with the infinite world that they could never foresee and are not financially responsible for. I mean, I can move my sofa with my car so I should be satisfied about the fact that is possible and not complain that I am not getting a massage while my car moves my sofa. It works with other things. That to me says a lot yet our own government wants to be a baby and say its how it works with things it doesn't own. Then the government should hold itself to that same standard and offer free services for the citizens of this country so we can be completely compatible with all other countries and possible devices we encounter. That means free health care, free education and not charging any person for harvesting sun power and quit going to war over resources or differences in government styles. Democracy supports differences so we should respect that other places are not democracies. Our people had to rise up and fight to be where we are so will their own citizens if they want different. It might be harder to do the more time passes and the governments get more powerful but I digress.
It should be unconstitutional to enforce a company to have universal compatibility just like it should be unconstitutional to provide any company with immunity from persecution for products they produce that people interact with. So this is the same thing but in reverse. Big pharma can't be sued for killing people with COVID vaccines that were dangerous and not vaccines but therapies when they were supposed to be compatible and safe with all citizens who were forced to take them but were not. So why should Apple be sued for making its ecosystem so strong that they hold the market share with the invention of their devices that work so well with all their other devices and work with other devices but with diminished qualities? We are in a democracy that gets to choose the products and services we use. We are poor at selecting the best companies to buy from or use services from like Facebook or Google due to them collecting all of our digital data when connected from their devices or software. Facebook just flat out steals because they might own the website but they are collecting data from every website you go to forever after logging into Facebook and so they are an infectious virus. They take that data and sell it repetitively for an infinite amount of time. You can opt out of being tracked and increase the privacy so Facebook does not have that ability which is a lie because I have done the highest removal of Facebook tracking and they are still collecting my data and the data of anybody that uses that browser. Its why I use a different downloaded browser that cannot visit Facebook so it cannot be infected with their stealing malicious algorithm.
Apple protects its users from this and you know this is exactly why the government is suing. They want to have easier access to Apple customer data for use whenever they feel like it because every other company has given over our data to them. Even so, they still get the data using crafted software designed to break the firewalls that protect Apple customers so I don't see why they are making such public waste of our tax dollars for things that most citizens, you know, the bosses of the government don't care about. I would rather see the tax dollars we give to the government not go to ridiculous black projects that hurt innocent people and have the CIA disbanded for its crimes against humanity. Then we can feed everybody, give healthcare to people...the real healthcare that works and not this crap pharmaceutical model developed in the 30's that has proven it only works for short periods of time. We need border protection so Americans aren't paying for the world to live off of us because our own citizens are dying from lack of services that they pay for as other non citizens are getting those services and exhausting working programs to a point of bust. We need to stop welfare for simply having children and make people work but ensure there are jobs for people. We need to enforce laws that protect citizens and not hurt them. Wasting their money is hurting them.
Wow, spot on!!!!!! I agree with all this 💯💯💯💯
You are just a gold fish in a 1 gallon bowl. Where are you going today? You just got a new filter! Yippee!! It's not any better, just new. Unless you think a higher price is better.
you are dumb.
Samsung to Samsung too... it isnt just an iOS thing.
One Apple product I just can't get into is the Mac. I just don't like the interface. I prefer having a taskbar at the bottom of the screen, and programs open up in full screen. Also, back in the day hated that the Mac only had one button, as I did a lot of right clicking. It is nice that they later on allowed right clicking.
Windows all the way! For computers
The AppStore fees were illegal from the very first second. They closed the system for third partiy installations. And 30 percent is a bad joke. They should it pay all back. Because they have no right for it from the very beginning. Same goes for the iPod touch iTunes music store. Because the Walkman producers didn’t want money for allowing people to make music available on the walkman. Apple screwed up but also many other App Store owners
it's all in the developer's information. you KNOW before that there is a fee to release paid apps on their store - duh!
Apple is a corporation and as such a business. They own the AppStore and should have the right to make money from the store they created. DOJ hates Apples popularity and wants to destroy their success. Force us all onto inferior android devices.
@@simonwalker8170 still illegal. It shows the lawmakers are sleeping or with Apple in bed
Tim Cook needs to go anyway. He’s more like a government agent anyway.
Maybe I am naive but I love the concept of the App Store a place I can get an app without the fear of downloading a virus. I would never download anything to my iPad/iPhone that did not come from the App Store.
Likewise I love the concept of Apple making both hardware and software, they simply work. Perfect example try connecting a smart camera, smart plug and a smart light from three different companies to another companies smart home controller. With one you have to stand on your head and clap your hand with the other you have to stand on one foot and whistle Dixie and lastly you have to install by turning three times and bow to the north and if you do all that they may work but not every time. Total nonsense
Apple may be controlling but their products work together. On every other product things may work or not it is a crap shoot
That is a very low-information take and is harmful to you in the long term.
Most Apple users feel the same way. I know I do.
Funny enough, allowing other stores doesn't mean you can't just use the app store. Alternatively, there's nothing stopping Apple from making a mark indicating an app was "Apple certified"
@@Wing0Alchemist that is true but who pays for the expense to Apple to certify the code. There are only three choices me the consumer? That might make the product too expensive to buy, Apple , or the creator. Seems to me the logical choice is the creator he is the one that wants me to buy and to make his product more desirable he is willing to pay Apple to certify his product.
@@edblough4134Are you saying Apple doesn't already certify what's in the app store? Oh I'm sorry, I thought the standard Apple defense for the walled garden app store was that it was the only way they could ensure that all apps were "safe."
As for other app stores, just leave the responsibility of "verifying" the apps on those stores to those stores. And if you don't want to deal with those, *don't download alternate stores and just keep using the App Store.*
Like Apple fans don't understand the concept of personal choice and options, too used to being spoon fed and told what you want instead of making a choice. The option existing doesn't mean you have to use it.
If the government is going to force Apple to do anything, they should make them bring back the Sim card tray permanently and implement a fingerprint sensor for crying out loud.
Tim Cook is the worm in the Apple, Steve Jobs promoted the Web and Interoperability in Progressive Web Apps.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, so people will not get to buy the same phone year after year????One less overpriced and overhyped product..NExxxxxxxtttttttttttttt...
its not 2018 lil bro
@@justyourgeneralguy Who are you supposed to be talking to? I am sure most of us know what year it is, and there's no correlation..
@@michaels8607 you’re living in the past thinking people still debate on which phone is better, no one cares except basement dwellers
@@clintosfan I can show you 5 Apple content creators within 5 minutes..FACT..Now if you find your helmet in time, you will not miss your short bus..
@@michaels8607for a seemingly wholesome guy with an aspiring yt channel. Don't be dumb.
The DOJ is literally benefitting everyone by forcing apple to do the things they should have done years ago.
Imagine the govt telling someone they have too much power. Sounds like a lobbyist campaign to me.
I feel like the government has better things to do rather than mess with tech companies
Does the government not know that more android phones are sold than any Apple iPhone? I mean seriously… This thinking that Apple has a monopoly in the space is ridiculous… if a company designs and develops a product or line of products that are meant to be tightly integrated, then that should be allowed. Also a company should be allowed to say what happens on their platforms, it’s ridiculous to think that anyone and everyone should be allowed to play a game when the people wanting to play have continued to break the rules. Sure Apple could forgo 30% cut to a lower percentage, but even still, Apple should be allowed to dictate who gets to play in their garden.
The 30% cut can't be their main problem, since that is the standard from the begining, and actually even the Epic "cat fight" prooved that is not the main problem (not with Apple, but compare the Steam renevue and the Epic store renevue in the past 4 years.. and Steam still cut the 30%.. and Epic only cut 12%, but still the users and the developers are on the 30% cut platform even after 4 years..). Also there are another US company, the Twitch what cut 65% and only left 35% for the streamer.. so actually Apple (not just them, everyone else like Playstation store, Xbox store, Steam store, Google Playstore etc) is give double amount of that 35% with the 70%..
And the main problem is that, one of the main limitation of the innovation is that, if you can't do what you want.. like check the 5 years of 120Hz on Android, they immedietly throwed away their "best" after Apple showed there is a way not to lose 2 hours of battery time with 120Hz, but even gain that 2 hours as extra..
Same with the camera, Apple just increased the 12MP camera lens in the past few years, but they already give you an options to shoot the 24MP default images, what even the 200MP camera lens Android can't offer, they still lilited to 12MP.. If the software and hardware in the same hand, it gives way more possibility like when you need to work with multiple company together to make something.
iOS has about 60% market share in the US. Worldwide, yes, there are more Androids because they are cheaper.
What about the fact that Google has a HUGE monopoly on search engines, and Microsoft’s extreme dominance over the computer market? The justice department always singles out Apple even if they aren’t guilty, probably because they’re being paid by Google
If only government needed to leave apple alone.
Apple does not have a monopoly imo (additionally, they are ONLY the more popular product in the US. Not necessarily elsewhere). They just have a better product. There is a huge market of smartphones that are genuinely great. A large portion of the US buys those other products. I buy an iPhone because it just works better. The materials are nicer. The software (and integrations) are significantly better for what I need.
I tried flipping to an Android about 2 years ago. I was sick of my iPhone. Guess what, I got everything setup on a flagship Android phone and within 36 hours, I absolutely hated everything about it. I returned it and went back to Apple. It had nothing to do with "green bubble" or "blue bubble". Just bad software.
Apple is doing it right. If more companies focused on integration, we'd have better products.
Don't get me wrong, having things be open source is important and should happen. But also having a company manage my data from start to finish instead of being handed off 7 times with so much room for errors and compromises, I prefer.
This case is about America. I don't know if you realize that or not. Also nothing crazy is going to happen maybe things like letting people without an iphone update their airpods or let other watches work properly with iphones or make rcs with end to end encryption a thing is as far as its going to go, if anything happens at all. Oh and hopefully let people install apps that apple doesn't have to verify. None of these things will hurt people who use iphones or macs. Most of them will actually help them like being able to securely being able to text someone with an android phone or download an app that they want to, but don't have to if they don't want to like fortnite.
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