@@visionsofhere3745 apologies thought I was replying to someone else completely! I was referring to Ricky Gervais - Jago is actually far funnier in my opinion.
My grandfather was on submarines in the US navy. He told an amusing story of an inattentive shipyard pipe fitter who literally welded himself into a corner on a docked sub before he realized he’d built his own cage and had to figure a way out of it.
It was the Workman's Compensation Act of 1897 which changed employers' attitude to health and safety. Who'd have thought money had anything to do with it?
I think its disgusting that you would suggest that employers dont have workers interests at heart and that we shouldnt remove all workers protections afforded under EU laws because no right minded employer would exploit the lack of them!
"PLEASE DON'T CLICK AWAY" haha love your videos mate. I love how you not only cover train stations but famous-infamous buildings, myths etc. Awesome content!
Hoj! you forgot to mention the rivet chucker and his mate who would heat the rivet on a small forge then 'chuck it' up to where the rest of the gang were riveting the plates to both the frames and each other. The rivets needed to be hot so that when they, the rivets, cooled down and contracted the plates and frame were nipped together nice and tight. Yours Sincerely, Indignant of Gothenburg
I was going to steel myself for one hull of a pun and compose my thoughts, but since the two bodies did not de-compose, I'm glad that this episode in no ways stank!
First, Ferris Wheels, now, _The Third Man?!?_ Not merely riveting, can’t wait for part three when Jago must surely whip out his zither... you know, he never cared for the old Vienna, before the War.
Always suspected this story was cobblers, so thanks for pretty much confirming what I suspected with a feasible explanation to back it up 😜 I always suspected it was just one of those things that dull people jump all over as undeniable fact in order to try to sound interesting 🤔 Excellent stuff as ever sir 🍻👍
This reminded me of a story I once read years ago about a German U-boat which was going out on a sea trial after it had been worked on in a Dutch port. When it dived the crew heard a banging sound so the U-Boat surfaced. The crew checked around but not being able to find the source of the noise dived again. Whereupon the banging started up again. Having resurfaced yet again to check for the origins of the noise and still finding nothing it dived yet again. This time there was no more banging so the captain decided to continue with the sea trails. After the war had ended and the U-Boat was broken up and they found human remains inside one of the ballast tanks which was thought to have been those of one of the Dutch workers. It was thought he was trapped inside the ballast tanks was the origin of the banging sound the crew had heard. Of course there are a number of reasons this story was a nautical myth. Such as why did they not know of the Dutch ship worker being inside the ballast tanks. Why was he in the ballast tank when she was due to go for sea trails. And why no one asked where he was. Also why he did not come off the shift.
I like big boats and I cannot lie, Your other sailors can’t deny That when a ship sails by with a itty tiny haul You get SPRUNG Forbes and Watkins being Biggie and TuPac and now this, London trivia and late 90’s hip hop have converged. We truly live in a glorious time. 😂
I heard this as a kid. The story I heard featured an unexplained banging heard on the ship. When discovered the riveters hammer, still in his hand, had been knocking on the bulkhead with the pitching and rolling of the ship. Freaked me right out as an eight year old kid. Thanks JH.
It also however highlights one of the other unlikely aspects of the story; if a riveter was trapped, they would naturally bang with their hammer to ask for help, or call out. Sounds travels well through metal.
@@iankemp1131 To be fair, considering the amount of riveting going on around the ship at the time it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary to hear hammers bashing on metal - in fact someone hammering on metal probably wouldn't have been noticed at all! That said, the story is almost certainly an urban legend.
As a young boy, I read many nonfiction books about boats, trains and history. As a middle aged man I continue to be saddened by how many outright lies were in these books. Curse you, Usborne!
Somehow knew you would say it was riveting! You pronounced Loch nan Uamh the way I would have done in the past, but I've been told it is "Oo-mah". John Thomas mentions the story being told about Glenfinnan instead, but the ultrasound seems conclusive. Another documented case was on the Southern Railway during electrification works in the 1930s. The workers' train arrived at an apparently complete substation; nobody was waiting but the crew recalled dropping people off that morning. They went to have a look and heard faint cries from inside, but found no way in. Sledgehammers were used to break the wall down and release a group of bricklayers. Their blueprint, alas, contained no door. Presumably they had had electric light inside and had not noticed the disappearance of natural light. This incredible-sounding story was recounted in "Sir Herbert Walker's Southern Railway". It would be a pity if it wasn't true.
There's a similar story about the Forth Bridge. A couple of the workers got trapped somewhere where they could not be saved. Instead, they were dropped some food and told they would be saved later. The food was laced with poison.
Back in 1975 I was standing by a new build offshore supply vessel at a certain well known Clyde shipyard. At the entrance to the yard was a notice board listing the number of accident free days at this particular yard. It never got into double digits all the time I was there! One particular incident comes to mind over the subject/content of your video Jago. During an afternoon wander thru the ship, most accidents at this yard seemed to happen after the lunch time break, I came accross one shipyard worker trying to put the tank top lid on a tank. The tank was actually being painted internally with airlines, electrical cables etc ... going thru this tank's access hole. Yet here was this worker who had been tasked with closing up any open tanks trying to fasten down this tank's access plate. I was met with a barrage of swear words, threats of phyiscal violence, when I tried to question his actions. So just left him to it. As far as i'm aware we never found any skeltons in that particular tank. 😃
I was once told an interesting story regarding something similar. I used to take my car for its MoT at a garage housed in a building that had formerly belonged to the Trentham Estate, the former seat of the Dukes of Sutherland, the home up until the early 20th century. The name of the garage is intriguingly 'Turbine Garage' as it housed the turbine generators fed water from the nearby River Trent. To create the momentum to drive the turbines the water was fed down 100' deep shafts. The turbines turned out to be short lived as rubbish in the heavily polluted Trend kept jamming up the mechanism. It was decided to fill in the shafts around the turn of the century. I was told by the guy who owns the garage that during the back filling operation a heavily loaded horse and cart slipped on the ramp down to the shaft and fell. According to the story it was not possible to recover the horse so they were simply buried and entombed in the shaft. It's unclear what happened to the driver but rumour has it he remained with his horse. The Sutherlands abandoned the estate around 1910 and donated it to the stench rising from the Trent which had become little more than an open sewer. The house and estate were donated to Stoke on Trent Corporation who promptly demolished most of the house and opened the former estate as pleasure gardens.
I watched the BBC show when it was first broadcast and sat back while it was torn apart for its numerous inaccuracies and omissions. Strange how stories tend to become facts over the passage of time. You would have thought that the BBC would have researched their facts beforehand. Good video as usual my friend, keep them coming ☺.
The skeletons in the hull I heard from the BBC documentary series: Seven Wonders of the Industrial World. You can get it on DVD, but there might be clips on youtube.
Nice to see I'm not the only one. Saw it when it first aired on BBC2. Got all but one of the musical tracks used therein too. The documentary was on RUclips in full for a time; but the BBC's obcession with both not releasing stuff & hammering those who do... put paid to that.
Every time I see a new video from you my day gets a bit brighter! In a similar vein: when the Pentagon was built there was a long-standing rumor that a truck got stuck in the mud and, to avoid slowing construction, was simply left behind. While long considered an urban legend, a rusted truck frame was found in the foundations during the rebuild (1991-2011).
My paternal grandfather started his railway career as a "holder-up" in Swindon works, and was partially deaf for the rest of his life. He died before I was born and so I never heard about it from him.
Great view from Loch Nan Uamh viaduct. I was stuck on a train there for several minutes a few years ago after one of the passengers using the WC mistakenly thought that the big red lever was the flush handle...
that does make sense - thank you. regarding the horse and cart viaduct accident, i used to work at sir robert mcalpine, and we were told it was at the glenfinnan viaduct where the accident happened.
That “Calm down Sir Mix-a-Lot” remark absolutely cracked me up. Much in the way the Long Island Sound cracked up the Great Eastern! Excellent video as always, sir.
Yes, I was riveted to the screen during this video! But now I just want to click away. Another interesting myth busting and riveting story by the man with dry humor.
Throughout the US Navy - and no doubt the Royal Navy - there are similar yarns about workmen being sealed up in hulls and voids only to be rediscovered when the ships are scrapped. One variation was the discovery during scrapping of a compartment that had been sealed up during construction, complete with machine tools, when a hatch was omitted to be cut in after the equipment was installed and the bulkhead put in place.
In chemical engineering it's said that large pipelines should have enough overcapacity to maintain the flow around a workman's lunch box or tool box. There are several stories of workmen leaving their lunchbox in a convenient open-ended pipe and then either they or a colleague absent-mindedly welding the next section on.
That description of riveting is basically correct, yes. The riveter's mate also was called a catcher, because hot rivets would be pitched from the portable stove, tended by another man, through the air to the gang, then set into place. Just imagine that going on with the modern HSE. The myth is similar to the one of men encased in the Hoover Dam. Not only was the concrete poured in shallow layers in cells, so that anybody falling in could easily be pulled out again, but they wouldn't be left there, as it would create a weak spot in the structure.
I have read a few brief historical articles regarding the Great Eastern. You have presented an engaging dissection of a subject little known to me. Thank you.
The same tale is also said of other vessels, a submarine is given away to enemy surface vessels by a inexplicable tapping, it survives subsequent depth charges and many years later when the submarine is broken up a skeleton is discovered trapped in a ballast tank, no verifiable details of course are given
Love the "Pls. don't click away"!! Thank you for clearing this up - I remember reading this in a small feature about the Great Eastern in a Danish Comic Book back in the 70'ies. Always suspicious about it, as I guess they would have used their tools to alert colleagues.
A variation of this this story is that the skeletons were a man and woman, a woman and her lover killed by her husband and hidden between the hulls. However most point to an incident of this nature on the TS Bremen where a crew member killed his wife and hid the body between the hulls planning to throw it overboard mid voyage, however it was discovered by an inspection team not long after it was hidden.
The Great Eastern was broken up near where I was born but I'm struggling to remember it, for some reason. Nice Pied Wagtail action at the end. Great work
The "riveter trapped inside (any large, famous ship you care to name)" urban legend is in the same genus as the one about dam builders being entombed in the concrete. There are dozens and dozens of men on the scene during a big concrete pour--there's no way someone falling in would go unnoticed, and anyone who did would be retrieved, alive or dead. Concrete workers are _very_ particular about voids in the pour. :)
Awww... I thought this episode would be one of the stories about wooden sailing ships with skeletalized crews, due to having been wiped out at sea by disease while the ship sailed on.
Fascinating, and a pretty thorough examination of the situation. Funnily enough, I heard a slightly similar rumour from someone who worked on the construction of Brighton Marina in the early 70s. The breakwater(s) that shelter the entrance were formed by a line of over 100 concrete caissons, each weighing 600 tons. Cylindrical in shape, they were about 12m high and as much wide and were lowered into position by an immense gantry crane, then filled with a further 1,000 tons of concrete. The story as related to me was that a diver became trapped under one of these caissons as it was lowered but, as recovering his body would have been such an immense undertaking, it was simply left there. And the caisson fixed in place with 1,000 tons of concrete. It might be true…?
I heard this story as a ten year-old from a teacher who just enjoyed scaring children. He one day played us a Rachmaninov prelude meant to represent a man buried alive knocking desperately to be released from his coffin. Apart from this taste for the macabre he was a great teacher. I remember him reading "Moonfleet" to us, a particularly creepy late Victorian tale.
A well known author, Mr Archer, used this as part of the plot for the Clifton Chronicles series of books. It took him 7 novels to get from entombing to exhuming.
Airing your skeletons. A riveting yarn. When the new hull for the PS Medway Queen was being built, the Lottery committee demanded all riveted construction. Riveting was a all but dead trade. The modern way of heating the rivets was to use a specifically shaped induction coil that could get them cherry red in a matter of seconds. It could even do aluminium, but this took longer, about 30 seconds. Aluminium was not used for riveting, this was just to illustrate how powerful the coil was as people believe you're not supposed to be able to inductively heat aluminium. But we're talking large chunks of malleable steel, which take some serious cooking, not a pan of sprouts, despite weapons grade brassica being an actual thing in some people's minds. To continue the tangent of popular disbelief, you can't weld aluminium to steel, but the PS Waverley's funnels are very much aluminium and very much welded to the steel deck.
I recall at the time of the construction of the M1 it was claimed that several London gangs disposed of their unwanted members and/or enemies in the hollow pillars which were erected to carry the bridges over the motorway, before they were filled with concrete...
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“PLEASE DON’T CLICK AWAY!” Bloody brilliant haha
I laughed at that one too!
@@hairyairey he always has at least a couple lines that get me laughing 😁
@@SixthQuarter A couple of lines in a whole performance does not a comedian make.
@@hairyairey Pretty sure nobody called Jago a comedian. But apart from that tiny detail...
@@visionsofhere3745 apologies thought I was replying to someone else completely! I was referring to Ricky Gervais - Jago is actually far funnier in my opinion.
If there was not a "riveting" pun at the end I was going to write to my representative to complain.
Jago never disappoints when a pun is involved :P
Awful 🤦♂️😂😂😂
as long as you were irate about it!
He had to hammer that one home
I actually guessed in advance that his adjective for this video would be “riveting”. Usually I am too slow to get it before he says it. 😀
Maybe the story came about when a frog got trapped and was heard going rivet rivet.
And it ended when it croaked.
We have placed your coat near the exit to save time.
@@kanedaku I would be on my way but like the Great Eastern, I need a great shove to move these days. 😃
Ouch! 😅
My grandfather was on submarines in the US navy. He told an amusing story of an inattentive shipyard pipe fitter who literally welded himself into a corner on a docked sub before he realized he’d built his own cage and had to figure a way out of it.
I imagine that's true, just like this- watch carefully! ruclips.net/video/3cpNO_C2h1o/видео.html
It was the Workman's Compensation Act of 1897 which changed employers' attitude to health and safety. Who'd have thought money had anything to do with it?
I think its disgusting that you would suggest that employers dont have workers interests at heart and that we shouldnt remove all workers protections afforded under EU laws because no right minded employer would exploit the lack of them!
@@chriszanf the UK has laws too. You don't need EU laws.
@@mirzaahmed6589 Yeah, and we can obviously trust the government to put equally robust worker's protection in place 🤣
"PLEASE DON'T CLICK AWAY"
haha love your videos mate. I love how you not only cover train stations but famous-infamous buildings, myths etc. Awesome content!
Hoj! you forgot to mention the rivet chucker and his mate who would heat the rivet on a small forge then 'chuck it' up to where the rest of the gang were riveting the plates to both the frames and each other. The rivets needed to be hot so that when they, the rivets, cooled down and contracted the plates and frame were nipped together nice and tight. Yours Sincerely, Indignant of Gothenburg
“Good evening” *uploads at 8am BST*
Time zones ye
This also happened with another recent video. Maybe the upload time was incredibly long?
He does it purely to annoy you. Just you.
@@visionsofhere3745 I know, and it’s working! Grr
Dunno man, my colleagues not wondering where I am when I've gone missing wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Well, with modern society I am not surprised.. I naïvely believe that in goo' ol' times you would go having a pint and a fight after work...
I was going to steel myself for one hull of a pun and compose my thoughts, but since the two bodies did not de-compose, I'm glad that this episode in no ways stank!
Ooooo that pushed the limit Luckily my anti-pun shield held and I am able to fight back
First, Ferris Wheels, now, _The Third Man?!?_ Not merely riveting, can’t wait for part three when Jago must surely whip out his zither... you know, he never cared for the old Vienna, before the War.
I love jago videos but i dont want him to "whip" anything out. There are other websites for that kind of thing...
You could say that the Great Eastern wasn't built using a skeleton crew!
I presume the horse, if not killed by the fall, was killed by the cart falling on it. Moral - Always put the cart before the horse
This is most riveting way of listening to Jago saying “no” for 6 minutes and 21 seconds!
Also, great cameo by Sir Mixalot!
@MrGreatplum What, as in Baby got Back? lol
So there weren't two skeletons found, wearing badges saying 'Victorian Hide and Seek Champions 1858' after all? 🤨
lmfao
I don't know, man. They aren't champions for nothing
Always suspected this story was cobblers, so thanks for pretty much confirming what I suspected with a feasible explanation to back it up 😜 I always suspected it was just one of those things that dull people jump all over as undeniable fact in order to try to sound interesting 🤔 Excellent stuff as ever sir 🍻👍
This reminded me of a story I once read years ago about a German U-boat which was going out on a sea trial after it had been worked on in a Dutch port. When it dived the crew heard a banging sound so the U-Boat surfaced. The crew checked around but not being able to find the source of the noise dived again. Whereupon the banging started up again. Having resurfaced yet again to check for the origins of the noise and still finding nothing it dived yet again. This time there was no more banging so the captain decided to continue with the sea trails.
After the war had ended and the U-Boat was broken up and they found human remains inside one of the ballast tanks which was thought to have been those of one of the Dutch workers. It was thought he was trapped inside the ballast tanks was the origin of the banging sound the crew had heard.
Of course there are a number of reasons this story was a nautical myth. Such as why did they not know of the Dutch ship worker being inside the ballast tanks. Why was he in the ballast tank when she was due to go for sea trails. And why no one asked where he was. Also why he did not come off the shift.
Excellent story. Yes I did find the video suitably riveting and as regards your balance of humour versus information, you really nailed it!
Comfort yourself Jaggo: when you pronounce things wrong, you do so perfectly.
I like big boats and I cannot lie,
Your other sailors can’t deny
That when a ship sails by with a itty tiny haul
You get SPRUNG
Forbes and Watkins being Biggie and TuPac and now this, London trivia and late 90’s hip hop have converged. We truly live in a glorious time. 😂
Nice. Pour yourself a drink. Well done
I couldn't stop watching that bit about rivits, it was riviting..... Great video keep it up
Well, you can't bash it.
Rivets
Things I thought I'd never see...Sir Mix-A-Lot being referenced in a Jago video 😆
I never thought I'd connect Sir Mix-A-Lot and the Titanic!
It was only a matter of timing.
I heard this as a kid. The story I heard featured an unexplained banging heard on the ship. When discovered the riveters hammer, still in his hand, had been knocking on the bulkhead with the pitching and rolling of the ship. Freaked me right out as an eight year old kid.
Thanks JH.
It also however highlights one of the other unlikely aspects of the story; if a riveter was trapped, they would naturally bang with their hammer to ask for help, or call out. Sounds travels well through metal.
@@iankemp1131 After making the comment, I couldn't remember if the story was presented as fact or fiction. I th
Also if anyone was trapped it would most likely have been the holder upper and not the riveter
@@iankemp1131 To be fair, considering the amount of riveting going on around the ship at the time it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary to hear hammers bashing on metal - in fact someone hammering on metal probably wouldn't have been noticed at all! That said, the story is almost certainly an urban legend.
As a young boy, I read many nonfiction books about boats, trains and history. As a middle aged man I continue to be saddened by how many outright lies were in these books. Curse you, Usborne!
Exactly, the Usborne ghosts book was where I first heard of this myth.
I love that shot of the stairs going down into the water, please include it in all your videos. It is so loaded with metaphor.
Somehow knew you would say it was riveting! You pronounced Loch nan Uamh the way I would have done in the past, but I've been told it is "Oo-mah". John Thomas mentions the story being told about Glenfinnan instead, but the ultrasound seems conclusive. Another documented case was on the Southern Railway during electrification works in the 1930s. The workers' train arrived at an apparently complete substation; nobody was waiting but the crew recalled dropping people off that morning. They went to have a look and heard faint cries from inside, but found no way in. Sledgehammers were used to break the wall down and release a group of bricklayers. Their blueprint, alas, contained no door. Presumably they had had electric light inside and had not noticed the disappearance of natural light. This incredible-sounding story was recounted in "Sir Herbert Walker's Southern Railway". It would be a pity if it wasn't true.
There's a similar story about the Forth Bridge. A couple of the workers got trapped somewhere where they could not be saved. Instead, they were dropped some food and told they would be saved later. The food was laced with poison.
A shiver runs down my spine.
I knew that you wouldn't be able to resist the riveting pun.
Love the stock footage of my neighbourhood in the East London docklands :-)
There was some nice footage of the Emirates Dangleway. I'm one of those rare people who like it and think that it's an asset to the area.
Excellent video - and completed how all Jago videos should - with a 'cheerio' 👍
I think I was one of those people saying it was possible, I didn't know about the inspection hatches or the logistics of riveting so I'm convinced.
I’m Going To Fill My Conspiracy Boots 🥾
Keep up the good work fella and stay safe.
Interesting as always!
Riveting story!
Back in 1975 I was standing by a new build offshore supply vessel at a certain well known Clyde shipyard. At the entrance to the yard was a notice board listing the number of accident free days at this particular yard. It never got into double digits all the time I was there!
One particular incident comes to mind over the subject/content of your video Jago.
During an afternoon wander thru the ship, most accidents at this yard seemed to happen after the lunch time break, I came accross one shipyard worker trying to put the tank top lid on a tank. The tank was actually being painted internally with airlines, electrical cables etc ... going thru this tank's access hole. Yet here was this worker who had been tasked with closing up any open tanks trying to fasten down this tank's access plate.
I was met with a barrage of swear words, threats of phyiscal violence, when I tried to question his actions. So just left him to it. As far as i'm aware we never found any skeltons in that particular tank. 😃
I'M IRATE, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU HOW RIVETING REALLY WORKS!
Uhhhh, sounds like you got it right.
;-)))
A hull of a video anchored in research. Well done!
I was once told an interesting story regarding something similar. I used to take my car for its MoT at a garage housed in a building that had formerly belonged to the Trentham Estate, the former seat of the Dukes of Sutherland, the home up until the early 20th century. The name of the garage is intriguingly 'Turbine Garage' as it housed the turbine generators fed water from the nearby River Trent. To create the momentum to drive the turbines the water was fed down 100' deep shafts. The turbines turned out to be short lived as rubbish in the heavily polluted Trend kept jamming up the mechanism. It was decided to fill in the shafts around the turn of the century. I was told by the guy who owns the garage that during the back filling operation a heavily loaded horse and cart slipped on the ramp down to the shaft and fell. According to the story it was not possible to recover the horse so they were simply buried and entombed in the shaft. It's unclear what happened to the driver but rumour has it he remained with his horse.
The Sutherlands abandoned the estate around 1910 and donated it to the stench rising from the Trent which had become little more than an open sewer. The house and estate were donated to Stoke on Trent Corporation who promptly demolished most of the house and opened the former estate as pleasure gardens.
3:40 Your explanation's bound to keep viewers *riveted* to your story! LOL
Suitably riveting ha ha , i just love your humour .
I watched the BBC show when it was first broadcast and sat back while it was torn apart for its numerous inaccuracies and omissions. Strange how stories tend to become facts over the passage of time. You would have thought that the BBC would have researched their facts beforehand. Good video as usual my friend, keep them coming ☺.
The skeletons in the hull I heard from the BBC documentary series: Seven Wonders of the Industrial World. You can get it on DVD, but there might be clips on youtube.
I've got those CDs really great stuff
I heard this story as a kid on the old Ripley's Believe It Or Not show from the 1980's.
I have the accompanying book somewhere. It was actually what got me on to John Snow and the cholera epidemic.
Nice to see I'm not the only one. Saw it when it first aired on BBC2. Got all but one of the musical tracks used therein too.
The documentary was on RUclips in full for a time; but the BBC's obcession with both not releasing stuff & hammering those who do... put paid to that.
@@JagoHazzard John Snow and The Cholera Epidemic, I think they played at my student union back in ‘94. Never got the chart success they deserved…
JAGO! "Calm yourself, Sir MIx-a-lot"? *gasps for breath, laughing*
Every time I see a new video from you my day gets a bit brighter!
In a similar vein: when the Pentagon was built there was a long-standing rumor that a truck got stuck in the mud and, to avoid slowing construction, was simply left behind. While long considered an urban legend, a rusted truck frame was found in the foundations during the rebuild (1991-2011).
Quick wit as always is on point... riveting lol
Like the stories and the way you tell them. And I like the camera work too.
Thanks!
My paternal grandfather started his railway career as a "holder-up" in Swindon works, and was partially deaf for the rest of his life. He died before I was born and so I never heard about it from him.
"Calm down Sir-Mix-A-Lot..." Brilliant!!!
Great view from Loch Nan Uamh viaduct. I was stuck on a train there for several minutes a few years ago after one of the passengers using the WC mistakenly thought that the big red lever was the flush handle...
They found a horse under the bank when they built a new stand at the old Highbury.
That horse still had more talent than ray parlour...
You had some fun searching, and using, the visuals to accompany your narrative.
Enjoyed both enormously.
Hi Jago. Nice video - absolutely riveting (sorry, couldn't wait until the end to get that in)!
What a riveting story Jago I’m riveted to my seat! 🙃
that does make sense - thank you. regarding the horse and cart viaduct accident, i used to work at sir robert mcalpine, and we were told it was at the glenfinnan viaduct where the accident happened.
“Please don’t click away!” Thoroughly delighted me! Another great video!
Nice videography! It gave me the forbearance to be ready for that riveting pun - ishment!
2:25 Gotta love the snark! 😁
I m so glad someone explained that , now I can sleep , o the dark cavities black black !!
Thank you for the hull story, Jago.
I would never click away on a riveting video.
That “Calm down Sir Mix-a-Lot” remark absolutely cracked me up. Much in the way the Long Island Sound cracked up the Great Eastern!
Excellent video as always, sir.
Yes, I was riveted to the screen during this video! But now I just want to click away. Another interesting myth busting and riveting story by the man with dry humor.
Reminds me of the Horse buried when they built the old North Bank stand at Highbury.
Throughout the US Navy - and no doubt the Royal Navy - there are similar yarns about workmen being sealed up in hulls and voids only to be rediscovered when the ships are scrapped. One variation was the discovery during scrapping of a compartment that had been sealed up during construction, complete with machine tools, when a hatch was omitted to be cut in after the equipment was installed and the bulkhead put in place.
In chemical engineering it's said that large pipelines should have enough overcapacity to maintain the flow around a workman's lunch box or tool box. There are several stories of workmen leaving their lunchbox in a convenient open-ended pipe and then either they or a colleague absent-mindedly welding the next section on.
A riveting episode Jago.
Riveting!
Comes as a great relief that both were ok
That description of riveting is basically correct, yes. The riveter's mate also was called a catcher, because hot rivets would be pitched from the portable stove, tended by another man, through the air to the gang, then set into place. Just imagine that going on with the modern HSE.
The myth is similar to the one of men encased in the Hoover Dam. Not only was the concrete poured in shallow layers in cells, so that anybody falling in could easily be pulled out again, but they wouldn't be left there, as it would create a weak spot in the structure.
Sir Mix A Lot looked so excited about the double bottom lol
I have read a few brief historical articles regarding the Great Eastern. You have presented an engaging dissection of a subject little known to me. Thank you.
A lovely clip and I see you used your metal! :p
The same tale is also said of other vessels, a submarine is given away to enemy surface vessels by a inexplicable tapping, it survives subsequent depth charges and many years later when the submarine is broken up a skeleton is discovered trapped in a ballast tank, no verifiable details of course are given
It sounds as if people like a grisly twist to most things. That seems to be the bare bones of this tale. Thanks again for your shows
Love the "Pls. don't click away"!! Thank you for clearing this up - I remember reading this in a small feature about the Great Eastern in a Danish Comic Book back in the 70'ies. Always suspicious about it, as I guess they would have used their tools to alert colleagues.
A variation of this this story is that the skeletons were a man and woman, a woman and her lover killed by her husband and hidden between the hulls.
However most point to an incident of this nature on the TS Bremen where a crew member killed his wife and hid the body between the hulls planning to throw it overboard mid voyage, however it was discovered by an inspection team not long after it was hidden.
Very good explanation, and so riveting! No ghost writers were used I trust?
The Great Eastern was broken up near where I was born but I'm struggling to remember it, for some reason. Nice Pied Wagtail action at the end. Great work
19th century riveting was absolutely wild!
Nice video, thanks. I've always been a bit suspicious of this particular urban myth, so it's nice to see it debunked.
The "riveter trapped inside (any large, famous ship you care to name)" urban legend is in the same genus as the one about dam builders being entombed in the concrete. There are dozens and dozens of men on the scene during a big concrete pour--there's no way someone falling in would go unnoticed, and anyone who did would be retrieved, alive or dead. Concrete workers are _very_ particular about voids in the pour. :)
I was unable to click away from your riveting video Jago 🙂
How could I click away, it's Jago Hazard 😁❤️
"....have noticed his workmates disappearing in the middle of the job..." :)
Awww... I thought this episode would be one of the stories about wooden sailing ships with skeletalized crews, due to having been wiped out at sea by disease while the ship sailed on.
Fascinating, and a pretty thorough examination of the situation.
Funnily enough, I heard a slightly similar rumour from someone who worked on the construction of Brighton Marina in the early 70s.
The breakwater(s) that shelter the entrance were formed by a line of over 100 concrete caissons, each weighing 600 tons. Cylindrical in shape, they were about 12m high and as much wide and were lowered into position by an immense gantry crane, then filled with a further 1,000 tons of concrete.
The story as related to me was that a diver became trapped under one of these caissons as it was lowered but, as recovering his body would have been such an immense undertaking, it was simply left there. And the caisson fixed in place with 1,000 tons of concrete.
It might be true…?
This was riveting the whole way through
Great topic thanks.
Very interesting. Thanks💞
I heard this story as a ten year-old from a teacher who just enjoyed scaring children. He one day played us a Rachmaninov prelude meant to represent a man buried alive knocking desperately to be released from his coffin. Apart from this taste for the macabre he was a great teacher. I remember him reading "Moonfleet" to us, a particularly creepy late Victorian tale.
A well known author, Mr Archer, used this as part of the plot for the Clifton Chronicles series of books. It took him 7 novels to get from entombing to exhuming.
Now that tale about ship building on the Thames was great, now if it'd been about a tunnel under the Thames it would have been boring…..
Well this video was absolutely riveting
Such a rivetting channel.
Click away? Never! Not before the video is completely done!
I also love the shout out to Sir Mix A Lot
Airing your skeletons. A riveting yarn.
When the new hull for the PS Medway Queen was being built, the Lottery committee demanded all riveted construction. Riveting was a all but dead trade. The modern way of heating the rivets was to use a specifically shaped induction coil that could get them cherry red in a matter of seconds. It could even do aluminium, but this took longer, about 30 seconds. Aluminium was not used for riveting, this was just to illustrate how powerful the coil was as people believe you're not supposed to be able to inductively heat aluminium. But we're talking large chunks of malleable steel, which take some serious cooking, not a pan of sprouts, despite weapons grade brassica being an actual thing in some people's minds. To continue the tangent of popular disbelief, you can't weld aluminium to steel, but the PS Waverley's funnels are very much aluminium and very much welded to the steel deck.
Imagine disliking a Jago Hazzard video
Honestly, I think I'd rather imagine scurvy.
I recall at the time of the construction of the M1 it was claimed that several London gangs disposed of their unwanted members and/or enemies in the hollow pillars which were erected to carry the bridges over the motorway, before they were filled with concrete...
The one person who disliked this video clicked away to soon.
My uncle was a riveter and plater and he always took this story with a very large dose of salt
The rocks near Long Island are still called "Great Eastern Rocks."
Poor horse getting trapped in a bridge.
the truth is you did this whole video just for the riveting pun at the end.