🥇Battle Tutorial and Combat Guide for Troy A Total War Saga Hector vs Achilles | Basic Tactics #1
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- This is a tutorial video for both new, and experienced Total War players alike, in which you can learn how to win land battles in A Total War Saga Troy against the AI even on veteran difficulty level. It shows basics such as: how to command, group, move and order units in a battle as well as army battle tactics like ambushes, flanking, range combat and more. It's a guide on how to use units properly and how to fight an enemy AI army, but all tactics and moves can be used in multiplayer. I am using a balanced army, led by Hector, composed of infantry sword, club, shield and spear units along with javelins, bow(archer) units and chariots against a similar army led by Achilles.
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In this legendary age, heroes walk the earth. Yet it takes only a single impulsive act to spark a conflict that will shake the world. Audacious Paris, prince of Troy, takes beautiful Helen from her palace in Sparta. As they sail away, Helen’s husband, king Menelaus, curses her name. He will bring his errant wife home - whatever the cost!
King Agamemnon, wide-ruling lord of finely-walled Mycenae, hears his brother’s call. He summons Achaean heroes from far and wide, among them swift-footed Achilles and Odysseus of the silver tongue. The Greeks set course for Troy, towards inevitable war and slaughter. For there, on the battlefield before the great city, legends will be born…
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Subbed! Great videos man !
Hello Goneau! Thanks for the subscription, I hope you will enjoy all the next ones as well.
Thank you, I've had alot of difficulty dealing with archers, but your ambush tactic and moving your army will help me alot
Hello harryplays and welcome to my channel! I am glad to be of help! Good luck in your future battles!
I have been watching a good amount of tutorials since battles are not explained well through the game, your video is the first that I have found that actually covers what players need to know. Thank you man, I can't wait to dive deeper into your tutorials and actually learn more of the game mechanics! Also, you deserve more subs.
Hello tJunk and welcome to my channel! I wholeheartedly thank you for the compliment and feedback. You can help with the number of subs by spreading the word about m channel and video, because word of mouth is a really good way to grow as my channel is not yet big enough for RUclips to give me more sunshine in the search results and discovery algorithm. Also, my siege battle tutorial will be up soon, and I think you will enjoy it!
I’ve been playing TW games for like 15 years or something and as a very lazy player who often forgets good strategy, I found this a super helpful refresher! Nice one
Hello Milo, and welcome to my channel. I am happy to read that you have enjoyed the video and I hope you will enjoy the next one about siege battles as well.
Odysseus is my favourite, I like the tricky and free playstyle of the battle without structured formations. Also, good video: informative, consistent, understandable, just great, keep doing you stuff!
Hello Ginas, and welcome to my channel! Thanks for the comment and feedback it's truly appreciated! You can find more tutorials like it on this playlist : TROY A Total War Saga: ruclips.net/p/PLRYGjguAn0CEacNx3Xiy31vWrG6EeMznM
You my dude... Are an absolute legend. I got Troy for free on Epic uppon release... But have been struggling with the battles at start... When I have like an 50-50 chance (or a bit lower) on winning... I tent to lose heavily... But I replayed this video twice and my brain got overloaded with Total War knowledge! I cannot wait for more content! Maybe even some more detailed explaination on the different classes. And how to use them in which situations... ✌🏻
Hello Thiijs, and welcome to my channel! I am very happy to hear you liked the video and found it helpful. I do hope you will win more battles now. I will post more videos like this soon. By classes do you mean infantry, range, chariots, or light, medium and heavy infantry? Also, if you haven't already you can check out this video on how to win against superior numbers: ruclips.net/video/w2RT6q-c2M0/видео.html
@@perafilozof Well definitely it would come in handy to know the differences between light, medium and heavy units... But I indeed was rather talking about how to use the different infantries (like where to put the shields and where to put the units without shields... How to use the spearman, and where to place them... Etc etc...
Do you maybe have an Discord Server? :D
@@tsthijs That is a good video idea, I will make one explaining exactly those differences. No, no Discord Server for now. But I am on Twitter and Facebook, links are in the video description.
Great content my dude! Thanks for your work.
Hello Soth, and welcome to my channel! Thank you for the praise, it means a lot.
Great videos man! you deserve so many more subscribers
Hello Messiah, and welcome to my channel! Thank you for saying that it means a lot!
Nice tutorial! Subbed
Hello Travis, and welcome to my channel! I am happy to hear your enjoyed my video an found it helpful. Feel free to ask anything you need help with or propose topics for the next videos.
Yes I gave thumbs up. Because it teaches helpful information. Even though it is for users who are somewhat familiar with the game already.
But there needs to be a video explaining what the hell is Total War Saga Troy. Since nobody knows anything about any Total War game. Everybody is more familiar with Civilization and Age of Empires, but not Total War. So they might not know if they should even bother getting it free for 24hrs.
Hello Shattered Knight. Thank you for your feedback and comment! My videos are aimed at new players, but I do expect them to know basic controls like right click to move, left to select and such as it is quite standard gameplay setup. This game also includes two tutorial battles which explain those things to players who might be playing an RTS game for the first time in their life. This is why I didn't go down to that level.
As for the videos about explaining the Total War from the beginning that would take quite a lot of time to make. Since each game is based on the same principals and core gameplay a player could watch any one such video for any previews Total War game and he would be able to play this one. My videos are usually aimed at what makes each game new and different.
@@perafilozof Correct about controls. Incorrect about users being familiar with what this game is.
User who are unfamiliar with this game will not know anything about it. Or any Total War game in general. Therefore, this is what needs explanation. Any claim of users being familiar is incorrect/false. These are users who have never played the game, and have no information/recommendations about it.
For beginners who have already started to play the game, they will learn basic controls in the tutorial. So that doesn't really need much explanation. This is correct/true. So it's fine to explain more about how to win fights without going into too much detail about basic controls.
What advancement in ai programming? The ai in this is very good in this game. Where is information on it? Where is the rest of the combat videos? There's only like a few more. But nothing about the different things mentioned here. How to use Aneas rabble and mob? What strategy is that?
Hello Shattered Knight, thank you for the comment and feedback. I don't know how many TW games have you played in past, but I have followed the franchise for 20 years, so my talk about the AI is directed at the changes that have been made to it during the years and each game in the franchise. This is subjective observation from my own experience and experience of other TW content creators and players I talk to. The reason why I haven't made any videos for TWS Troy and it's combat systems is because there is a lot of patching and changes implemented by the developers. I don't want to make a video and for it to become obsolete in a week. As for "How to use Aneas rabble and mob" please be more specific so I can write you an answer about that.
@@perafilozof I'll give thumbs up to your reply. It's very obvious you know this game well. Your battle video has some really good information on how to battle in this game. But that was not the question. The question was - "What advancement in ai programming?" There is no explanation. You never answered. It definitely seems smarter and craftier.
But yes, it does make sense to wait for a bit of improvement on the game. Since the game is still undergoing much development until multiplayer. Even the recent patch was enormous. Even after the patch, I still find chariots to be OP. The battles are actually very well done and excellent. But really, if neither side is using chariots.
The ai is not just more advanced in combat. The campaign ai is also amazing. Even some long time users are completely unaware of this aspect of the game. Here is the article on how this campaign design functions: www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/iqo5zq/you_are_playing_twtroy_wrong_advancements_in
An important thing to note is that the information there focuses on normal mode as that article mentions. Since higher difficulty changes the game so that your faction becomes more of a target. Factions are all more inclined to try to kill you. Even for really experienced users, I don't think it's a good idea to boost the campaign setting beyond normal. If you really want to get an idea of how great this ai functions. So it's almost like you're playing a chess game in diplomacies. You want to always be aware of your interactions with other factions. As well as their interactions with each other. And constantly making diplomatic decisions based on what you want for your relationships.
This is also important to know about the pillars. Since being a pillar faction doesn't necessarily mean you start off as besties. It just means you get a bonus in diplomacy when interacting with pillars. It's still your job to build all of these relationships from the ground up. So some will be easier than others. For example, Sparta (Menalaus) and Lycia (Sarpadoon) tend to be much easier and more friendly than others. Amazons tend to be quite rude and more difficult. But I managed to get a NAP with one of them within the first 10 turns by joining some of their wars that were far away. In order to improve attitude rating with them.
In RPG games for a long time since D&D, there is a very standard method of progression that has been carried over to all of games. Which is that gaining each level is easier in early stages than it is in later stages. Since progression isn't linear. It's exponential. So as you progress, progression gets more and more difficult. So going from level 1-8 might require a certain amount of gameplay. Whereas, you might need that same amount of gameplay later on to go just one level from 15-16. This is not just exemplified in how additional pop points will progressively require more and more growth points. This is also exemplified in how supply lines function. Each hero you buy will create a larger and larger upkeep cost over your previous hero.
Not only is this effective so it limits the user army to prevent them from just fighting everybody. So they actually need to use diplomatic strategies and work with allies to progress through the game. It also plays into the unique design of the factions.
Hector is an example of a faction that has very strong and expensive units. He will be less inclined to field additional armies due to supply lines, in favor of quality over quantity.
Other factions have a sort of middle ground of either economic boost to be able to afford more upkeep or economic discount so that upkeep is more cost effective. Odysseus is a good example of economic boost. He can use ports much more efficiently than other factions to boost food production tremendously. So his units, while very nice, aren't necessarily as strong or expensive as Hector. But he will have more capital to work with to afford additional hero for another army. For sort of a balance of quality and quantity.
Aneas is the other end of Hector. He is all about quantity over quality. He has an inherent discount to light unit upkeep. This means the upkeep/salary he has to pay to his soldiers is so low, he can afford progressively higher supply line costs of adding more hero generals. As long as these additional armies are using these cheaper/lighter units. He has excellent tier 1 special units called, mob and rabble. These are very nice units for their price. Including a spear/shield that moves as fast as any typical speedy light unit. I suggest you study how these special units function to understand what I mean.
The combat of Aneas that I had mentioned earlier is based on a rush and swarm style. His special starting bonus allows him to afford upkeep of many cheap units. Which is where his special swarm units come into play. The strategy behind this combat is to use your swarm units to absorb enemy engagement bonuses. As well as tire the enemy out. Typically, as armies get closer and closer, there will come a point where you will want to engage by rushing in those swarm units first. This means the enemy will start wasting their bonuses on them. You can then pull the swarm units back, and engage with your stronger units. Since these swarm units have pretty bad morale, they might just run away anyway before you even pull them out. Which is perfectly fine since they did their job. And they have expendable quality that won't affect the morale of your other units. The design of these swarm units also gives them some functionality in charge cycling to repeatedly pull them out and send them back in. Also, since they move at top speed, they also offer other functions. Like buffering enemy chargers as well as flankers very well.
@@perafilozof Also, as I mentioned about checking out Aneas. It might be a good idea to do a nice video on his style. despite the patches because of so many users having no clue at all how to use him.
Thanks alot, very helpfull. One question: in the beginning you put range units at the front instead of at the back, shouldn't they be protected by melee infantry? This is my first total war game so I'm still a little confused. Also what do the blue and red bar mean below the health and morale bar?
Hello Peter, and welcome to my channel! Thanks, I am glad to be of help! When you advance your army in lockstep and the enemy is far away it's safe to keep range units infront. Also, because of their range they have to be infront so they can fire for the entire the the infantry units are running into each other. If they are back then they will have less time to fire as inf gets closer. Also, its better they take the first enemy volleys rather than the infantry units as they will win the battle for you.
As for the bars. You can see on the tooltip when you have your mouse on a unit: health, morale, stamina(bule) and ammo(red- orange).
@@perafilozof Ah alright that makes sense
Question: How do I use this composition against an enemy that outnumbers me? Or do I just follow what's in this video?
Hello Jamtastrophe and welcome to my channel. When you are outnumbered you need to sent a bait unit or two which will spread out and be attacked by many enemy units at the same time letting you use the rest of your army to attack from the flank and behind. You can see it done here : ruclips.net/video/w2RT6q-c2M0/видео.html
Which faction or character will you chose to play with? Are you a beginner in Total War or an old time arm chair general?
I came to this series for the first time having just finished learning about all the small details of this war. Truly horrific for all involved. Odysseus, Hector, and Sarpedon are the most respectable characters, but I have to go with Sarpedon. Spoiler!!!...
He falls to Petroclus and when he does, I will weep "Bloody Tears" once more.
Hello Christian, and welcome to my channel! Thank you for the response ! I hope you are enjoying the game since it's your first entry into the Total War franchise. What do you like to play more the campaign map empire building or RTS battles?
Nice, just starting up my campaign. But don't really understand the different types of weapon i.e. spears, axes, swords, maces, 2 handed spears. What beats what?
Hello Chee, and welcome to my channel! For the weapons you have to look at the unit card, press I, and check the green description on the top. That will give you a rundown of the most important stats of a unit. If you see armor piercing then use that unit to attack enemy units with high armor. If you see fast flanker then use the unit as a flank or rear attacker. At the moment there is no real rock-paper-scissors between the units and their various weapons. It's more about unit armor and speed. So, axes against heavy infantry(high armor slow, speed), clubs against light infantry(low armor), swords works against all, spears against cavalry or for flanking. I will go more in dept about this in one of my next videos.
Best explanation of combat I've ever seen. Ha ha - so this is why I'm getting my butt reamed even on easy mode !!! Insta sub.
Hi and welcome to my channel. I am glad to have helped you out with this guide. For more similar videos here is my playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLRYGjguAn0CGCK3tAY7EcsZltMfQ9kwdn&si=-u5EZ2MbyY3lwT8g
Can I say that the ambush Idea was genious?
Thank you kindly! :) You can see all my guides on this game and other TW games here: ruclips.net/p/PLRYGjguAn0CGCK3tAY7EcsZltMfQ9kwdn
Good stuff!
Hi, thank you very much!
thank you for this. one thing that was uncomfortable for me was that there is no cavalry in this game(Besides chariots but those dont count), im used to putting cavalry on the flanks in forests and then charging behind my enemies. also i always put ranged units behind my melee ones which does not work as well.
Hello Kartvelian, and welcome to my channel. I am happy to hear you found my video useful. Indeed the lack of cavalry is a big change, but that is why we got the light and fast units with the flanking traits. It's a new age, and it's a different battlefield. Stick with my videos and you will see even more tips on how to win battles in this bronze age.
This might sound dumb but how do you merge damaged units together any help would be appreciated:)
Hello James, and welcome to my channel. No question can be dumb. When on the campaign map select an army with the damaged units, left click and hold a unit card of the damaged unit and hover it above another exactly same unit. Let go of the left click.
@@perafilozof ty i will try when i get home tonight
No problem. Feel free to ask about anything you need help with.
Another method of doing this is select all the units you want to merge, and do Ctrl+m it'll merge all the same unit types.
Just keep in mind the unit with the lowest man count/health, gets merged into a unit with higher men count/health.
So if you have a Rank 9 spearmen with 19 units left and say a Rank 2 spearmen with 40 units left, all the merge units are now Rank 2 with 59 total units. So be careful and smart about it! It's often easier to wait the few turns if you can.
Great tip Point Break! Thank you for your comment!
so how would you deal with 2 ful 20 units armies aginst 1 20 units and 1 15 size army in a stronghold thats been seiged any ideas for me please
Hello Andy, and welcome to my channel! Just to make it clear you are being besieged, on the defensive, with fewer units? Or are you the attacker in that siege again a more numerous enemy? To give you good advice I would need more information about the situation. Also, you could upload your save somewhere, send me a link and I will play that battle for a video and post it.
I wish you made content, tips, and guides for the Eastern Roman Empire in "Total War: Attila"!!
Hello Matt and welcome to my channel! Well, you see after the trainwreck that was TW Rome 2 I was very disappointed by Creative Assembly and stopped doing anything related to the Total War franchise. Since then they have turned things around and so I came back with TW Three Kingdoms and now Saga of Troy. So I might revisit the older games at some point in the future. Thank you for the suggestion, I will pin it on my video production board.
@@perafilozof Thank you. I subscribed before my comment. I thought I recognized an "Eastern European" accent in your videos and thought you might also appreciate the Eastern Roman Empire as much as I do. :-)
@@matthewtobin01 Thanks for the sub! I appreciate it. Indeed, I come from Serbia and we do have similar accents with more Eastern Europeans. Oh I played with the Visantine Empire very often in TW Medieval II. Can't wait to do that again in III.
All I want to know is how to get my army to fight in formation. When I select my army and have it attack a unit they all converge on the unit I targeted. I remember in other total war games there was a way to have them attack in formation but I don't see that in the advanced controls anywhere.
Hello Chunk, and welcome to my channel. I have to tell you that there is no way to give one order and have all units find individual targets. What you can, do to hold a formation, is to use CTRL+G on a group of units. This will lock them into the formation which they are set in, in that moment. Even an attack order for the entire group won't brake up the formation.
how to keep your soldiers happy?
Hello Martin, and welcome to my channel. When it comes to soldier morale in battles you need to keep their flanks secure, friendly units at their flanks and back, general near by and chase off enemy range units because all of these factors can damage your unit morale. When on the campaign map, there are different stances for armies, bottom left corner, next to the portrait of the character leading that army. If you are inside enemy borders you can use the raid stance to feed of the land and prevent attrition. When you are moving across water there is also a special stance to speed up the army and spend less time in open water which takes away army morale and unit numbers. I hope this answers your question, feel free to ask about anything else.
Last Total War game i played was Empires and the winning strat was having a shit ton of cannons. Now movement actually plays a crucial part since ranged units arent as over powered.
Hello "user with inappropriate nickname", and welcome to my channel. Indeed it does, and for me that is a huge bonus because I really didn't enjoy the static gameplay in Empire. I always found army maneuvers much more interesting when range units are not kings.
@@perafilozof yea camping does not work anymore so i visited your channel for some help, great vids btw!
New game, different tactic. Thanks!
How to get champions ?
Bro tell me
Hello Mimi, and welcome to my channel. If you are asking about the mythological "creatures" you unlock them by conquering specific settlements where they can be trained after building the necessary buildings. Others you unlock by reaching the maximum cult tier with one of the gods. You can see which god unlocks which unit when you hover your mouse of that gods icon in the worship menu.
perafilozof no like champion of phthia armies or champions of Troy?.
Just like in each total war game, by training them at the highest tire army buildings. I have to be in front of the game to name it specifically. At work right now.
perafilozof ok thanks bro
Why have Ai reinforcement gone
Hello Adam, and welcome to my channel! What was the situation you were in when the AI didn't reinforce with an extra army in range?
@@perafilozof yes when I'm attacking a fort the reinforcements are no longer ai optional is that right
@@captainohcaptain9588 If I understand correctly what you are asking, you would like to give command of your own reinforcing army to a friendly AI? So your AI would be in charge of your second army? No, in Troy you get to command both the attacking army and all of it's reinforcements.
@@perafilozof ok you did have the option of either in the past thanks for the help anyway
Thanks a lot, the game is free, but way too console like, with that many videos and interruptions, and the tutorials are not very useful, thanks for explaining the mechanics way better than the game!
Hello Zeratul600 and welcome to md channel! I am happy to hear you enjoyed my video! Btw your nickname, from StarCraft? Protos hero?