katya is so real for this, like addiction recovery is almost NEVER as easy as "i stopped and never relapsed." and whenever people hear about a celebrity relapsing, there's always an air of disappointment about it which must be so fuckin hard esp if they've talked openly about being on the road to recovery. in reality, recovery is less like a road and more like a roller coaster
as someone who has struggled both with alcohol and meth/Tina/ice we would just like to highlight that most people at Narcotics Anonymous meetings are alcoholics you’re all more than welcome at our meetings we don’t discriminate based on substance it’s all the same trauma disorder #2Spirit here (1 soul of each gender) hence the pronouns #queer #gay
I’m proud of Katya for her self awareness on every step of her journey. Up, down, sideways she’s not out there trying to be anything for anyone but herself. I root for her health (obviously), but it’s her example of self awareness that reminds me to keep my own house in order.
The level of honesty and authenticity is profound. Katya is so intelligent and articulate, looks at herself honestly. That's why I admire her. No one is perfect and she doesn't pretend to be.
i loved this part of the pod, espc relating to some of the fans comments lately. Katyas been sober for years now, yet just because she has a more peppy energy on the pod people feel the need to assume she relapsed. I find that so gross to assume. You can have your concerns (as baseless as they may be), but its just hurtful and inappropriate to just crudely put it out there like that. Im so happy to see katya talk about this, and how shes shared her experience in small ways :)
I hate how so many people treat recovering addicts as ticking time bombs, and instantly assume the worst because of some behavioral changes. It’s nobody’s business but theirs.
thank you for this. i’ve gotten tired of responding to those peoples comments because they’re so relentless. i don’t understand how they think saying shit like that is okay at all
My uncle became a severe alcoholic after a nasty divorce in the 80's. It was before I was born. AA helped him get out of it and later he volunteered as a hotline operator for alcoholics and as a mentor to some people who were in the process of sobering. He was the most life-appreciating, happy person I ever knew, despite all that he went through.
This is so true and to take it a step further and to Katyas point we mustn’t out ourselves either because we then get affiliated with a program or group along with our success or failures within sobriety. I’ve maintained sobriety for 8 years now and fortunately have not experience relapse. I am very low-key about how I identify my abstinence and sobriety to people when I go out to bars and work parties because I am acutely aware of the importance of personal anonymity.
Katya is an enlightened sapient sage with encyclopedic knowledge. A mystical mix match of benevolent indifference, unrefined perfection and a sarcastic wit that cannot be dulled by any drug or circumstance
@@bxaddiebratzBecause putting someone on a pedestal as a role model makes the person more afraid to make mistakes, in fear of disappointing the audience. Making a platform out of mental health issues, addiction, etc on purpose can be good when the spokesperson knows what they’re doing. But “inspiring others” also may mean that the people who are drawn to a good cause because of a public figure can abandon the cause if the public figure inevitably makes a mistake.
Really really liked this statement, the level of respect Katya and Trixie show for this public service and this institution makes me like them even more.
We all should be more respectful with people who choose to expose their situation with addiction and trauma because nobody really knows or understand their emotional state after appearing on a TV Show or Movie. Katya is a human being and like all of us, she deserves her space and time to heal and live life on her terms.
i would also assume that outing someone as attending AA/NA/etc only brings distrust to those meetings and shame. like can you be honest with your therapist if you suspect that they're leaking that information? to the media or to your parents or whoever else
i completely understand why she wishes she never said it publically, and she's so real for saying that she's not there to help others, she's there to help herself. it's great to have people who we look up to for inspiration or hope, but there must be a lot of pressure to always appear to be a shining example of 'success' when really you may not be doing well at all in that moment. she doesn't owe anybody else her recovery, she only owes it to herself
As the relative of (multiple) addicts, al-anon family groups have helped me immeasurably and it is indeed an incredible organisation. I admire Katya’s honesty and reverence for it so much ❤
So true, also i do not want to share with the outside world. They have no right to claim that info. It is only for me and my fellow people going through it. And i feel if they know i am being watched... i have experienced that...
12 steps saved my life- when I found CMA (crystal meth anonymous), I would be dead, or in prison- and that’s not an exaggeration. June 25th, 2020 is my sobriety date, not my first and god willing will have 4 years in a couple of weeks.
Hopefully this starts to change peoples mind about how the show exploits peoples mental health for entertainment and then portrays it as a good thing. Your essentially forcing the audience and other girls to trauma bond with each other or worse, invalidate or not care about their feelings because they don’t know them that well and if anybody life brought up trauma to you that quickly after knowing them (remember the show is filmed quicker than it’s rolled out, the audience has more time to process what the girls are saying and get updates as well via internet). Glad she was finally able to talk about it, it’s a concept of recovery I don’t think gets discussed enough
As a fan of them both. This is katya telling us to keep out of their business especially when it comes to their mental health and addiction journey. Listen to this with open ears people… KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT UP
I cannot even begin to imagine how surreal it must be to go through the scenarios Katya mentioned toward the end of this clip. The reconnaissance of something you have said on a reality show and having to come to terms with that if and when you do relapse PLUS having people crowd around you putting you on a pedestal like that, it’s chilling to even try to understand in a way that Katya articulates it. I hope she knows that she is appreciated for this level of brutal honesty and I hope that many in a similar situation can feel less guilt and shame about their recovery.
As a teenager I would spend days at a time in a NA chatroom GEEKED outta my mind on meth....To me your level of sobriety is irrelevant when you're helping others!!
Idk if this is violation of the traditions but those of us in the program work out program differently from others but I love what Katya said about how it truly comes down to addicts helping addicts and that is something we must cherish more in and out the program. Sobriety is not an upward moving straight line it has lots of ups and downs
We all should just do our best to battle our demons and we shouldn't put anyone on a pedestal bc everyone has their own struggles and many are not even public. It's good that some people are actively trying to get better but I would never condemn a person for being in a fragile state where fighting the addiction is not possible. Addiction has some common things with depression. Its a weight you have to carry and sometimes you just don't have the strength yet to fight it
while i do agree, i think kayta proved that the community that comes with any addiction can go one of 2 ways, you are either drug buddies and keep each other in addiction or just like the gig story, it made harder for her to keep relapsing because she suppose to be a role model for others. signing up to be a celeb doesnt people signing up to be a role model or be right about everything you say or support, its to be an REAL example of a human struggling with lots of things still in the spotlight.
I feel as if she’s saying that “helping people” is just a byproduct of her notoriety. It isn’t an explicit endorsement of AA or an invitation for sponsorship.
in a way Katyas journey is helping me by showing me the steps but the fact is, when I was developing the addiction I do think of Katya and thought to myself that drug use is not a big deal because gh does it and he’s intelligent and fab so it mustn’t be that bad.😢
I love that Katya pointed out the problematic aspects of AA. Another dark side that involve AA is that, the court can order you to go to AA or loose your license or your job. And when Katya said that the statistic were low, it seems to be low enough that going to AA or not going to AA have the equal chance of success or failure. If it helped her, then great. But AA shouldn't be the only option available and it shouldn't mandated by court.
“Tradition 11: Anonymity at the level of press, radio and film.” Tradition to be upheld, or outdated in today’s world? Does it apply to monetized content on the Internet? Discuss
Anyone else think trigger warnings are played out, tired and corny? The video says it’s about addiction. Seems like enough of a warning. And also, if it doesn’t have a warning, stop watching when the content get uncomfortable for you personally. No decent therapist would tell you to blanket avoid triggering content anyway.
If this requires a trigger warning we’re collectively doomed. Doomed. Katya’s authenticity and openness regarding AA and sobriety/relapsing is a breath of fresh air.
@@bingumsbongums if the mere utterance of addiction and AA bothers people they are doomed. Katya speaks at length about how AA is basically a precious organization that must be protected, which is true. There is nothing in what she says that is remotely triggering.
@@Dangermouse8645 but you only know that after watching the video. Maybe some people are so fresh they won’t even start it. It’s okay that people are different, it doesn’t mean bad.
@@Dangermouse8645 I do agree, what Katya says was only glowing and positive for AA. But on the off chance someone can’t handle talking about addiction right now, the trigger warning is just there to help them. Same thing Katya wants, people to have help beating addiction.
I dont get this AA nonsense. Im worried for Katya if she thinks public admition didn't bring her any accountability, when in fact it did and it pushed her into sobriety. Other ppls feelings made her want to be more truthfull with herself and her actions.
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katya is so real for this, like addiction recovery is almost NEVER as easy as "i stopped and never relapsed." and whenever people hear about a celebrity relapsing, there's always an air of disappointment about it which must be so fuckin hard esp if they've talked openly about being on the road to recovery. in reality, recovery is less like a road and more like a roller coaster
THIS!!
As a recovering addict. YES. FACTS 💯
as someone who has struggled both with alcohol and meth/Tina/ice we would just like to highlight that most people at Narcotics Anonymous meetings are alcoholics
you’re all more than welcome at our meetings we don’t discriminate based on substance it’s all the same trauma disorder
#2Spirit here (1 soul of each gender) hence the pronouns
#queer #gay
I’m so happy she got help I had no clue , and love that there is no shame around it
I love Katya being batshit insane on the podcasts but i love these real moments almost more. She's extremely well spoken.
Katya. Proud of you either way. Nobody should have to feel responsible for anyone else’s sobriety! Good luck in your struggle.
I genuinely never considered this angle. Katya is such a good public speaker, and has really touching and profound takes sometimes.
2:34 no joke that was my face too girl i almost started crying
I’m proud of Katya for her self awareness on every step of her journey. Up, down, sideways she’s not out there trying to be anything for anyone but herself. I root for her health (obviously), but it’s her example of self awareness that reminds me to keep my own house in order.
The level of honesty and authenticity is profound. Katya is so intelligent and articulate, looks at herself honestly. That's why I admire her. No one is perfect and she doesn't pretend to be.
i loved this part of the pod, espc relating to some of the fans comments lately. Katyas been sober for years now, yet just because she has a more peppy energy on the pod people feel the need to assume she relapsed. I find that so gross to assume. You can have your concerns (as baseless as they may be), but its just hurtful and inappropriate to just crudely put it out there like that. Im so happy to see katya talk about this, and how shes shared her experience in small ways :)
I hate how so many people treat recovering addicts as ticking time bombs, and instantly assume the worst because of some behavioral changes. It’s nobody’s business but theirs.
thank you for this. i’ve gotten tired of responding to those peoples comments because they’re so relentless. i don’t understand how they think saying shit like that is okay at all
Completely agree - her sobriety is NOBODYS business
Not to mention the fact that katya just got a hip replacement. Not living in constant pain anymore will perk anyone up.
Exactly and yet people feel the need to assume and make other people's lives their own 🙄@@Jilly_Neutron
Ooh there ain't no other person like Katya.
There are millions and millions of her.
@@arc7375 disagree
@@amishills white gay recovering from addiction who also does drag? Oh mama there's hundreds of Katya's
@@arc7375there ain’t
She's got a GOOD point
My uncle became a severe alcoholic after a nasty divorce in the 80's. It was before I was born. AA helped him get out of it and later he volunteered as a hotline operator for alcoholics and as a mentor to some people who were in the process of sobering.
He was the most life-appreciating, happy person I ever knew, despite all that he went through.
Bless Katya. This is the stuff that gives dimension to her, that makes us love her so much.
This is so true and to take it a step further and to Katyas point we mustn’t out ourselves either because we then get affiliated with a program or group along with our success or failures within sobriety.
I’ve maintained sobriety for 8 years now and fortunately have not experience relapse. I am very low-key about how I identify my abstinence and sobriety to people when I go out to bars and work parties because I am acutely aware of the importance of personal anonymity.
Katya is an enlightened sapient sage with encyclopedic knowledge. A mystical mix match of benevolent indifference, unrefined perfection and a sarcastic wit that cannot be dulled by any drug or circumstance
Honestly... work ❤
Please don’t say the last part, even katya intelligence will diminish if he kept using, drug is destructive. There is no way around it.
Co-sign this so hard! I’m always, always blown away by her. So real, so brilliant, and that epic dark wit despite dire inner turmoil. Legend.
She’s so real for this
This is why when someone publicly admits their vulnerabilities, saying "you inspire others/me to..." can adversely pressure them mentally
Can you expand more on this? Just curious
@@bxaddiebratzBecause putting someone on a pedestal as a role model makes the person more afraid to make mistakes, in fear of disappointing the audience. Making a platform out of mental health issues, addiction, etc on purpose can be good when the spokesperson knows what they’re doing. But “inspiring others” also may mean that the people who are drawn to a good cause because of a public figure can abandon the cause if the public figure inevitably makes a mistake.
@@Sofiaode18 Very well put, thank you!
Really really liked this statement, the level of respect Katya and Trixie show for this public service and this institution makes me like them even more.
Honestly Katya speaking on this motivated me to go to AA for the first time
I'm proud of you!
We all should be more respectful with people who choose to expose their situation with addiction and trauma because nobody really knows or understand their emotional state after appearing on a TV Show or Movie. Katya is a human being and like all of us, she deserves her space and time to heal and live life on her terms.
One time I was at a Party and I saw an AA person and I said “how’s AA?” And that was really stupid in retrospect.
You were just asking how Angele Anang was ofc
That’s a cycle breaker right there
Really appreciate this insight. Never crossed my mind how that could play out👊🏾
The 11th Tradition “Anonimity at the level of press, radio and film” protects the alcoholic, the organization and society.
i would also assume that outing someone as attending AA/NA/etc only brings distrust to those meetings and shame. like can you be honest with your therapist if you suspect that they're leaking that information? to the media or to your parents or whoever else
Thank you so much Katya! Brilliantly explained!
I didn’t think it was possible to love Katya more but here we are 🥲
i completely understand why she wishes she never said it publically, and she's so real for saying that she's not there to help others, she's there to help herself. it's great to have people who we look up to for inspiration or hope, but there must be a lot of pressure to always appear to be a shining example of 'success' when really you may not be doing well at all in that moment. she doesn't owe anybody else her recovery, she only owes it to herself
My mom just got her 90 day chip! I’m so proud of her for willingly going into rehab and AA 😊
Did you not watch the video..
@@teapotcubbyKatya is speaking positively of AA/12-step programs? 🤨
The one rule about fight club....
As the relative of (multiple) addicts, al-anon family groups have helped me immeasurably and it is indeed an incredible organisation. I admire Katya’s honesty and reverence for it so much ❤
Anytime anyone says hey how you doing when i know they know my struggle it feels like there’s a pretense
So true, also i do not want to share with the outside world. They have no right to claim that info. It is only for me and my fellow people going through it. And i feel if they know i am being watched... i have experienced that...
Katya is finally in her shining era. 👑💜
You know Trixie is shocked when she's quiet.
Omg! I love these two. Had no idea they were also friends of bill. Love this so much!
Just Katya! But Trixie has been super supportive of her, I recommend watching moving parts if you haven't
I love this so much!
She’s right, Katya is not an advocate for other peoples problems
Trixie just sitting there, allowing Katya to just talk and actually tell it as it is... girl... Katya got a good friend, and Katya is the real deal
THANK YOU KATYA
That's the problem with how we treat celebrity. No privacy, no respect, people just feel they have license to use you. That's fucked up.
Jokes aside, Katya has a beautiful sense of wisdom.
Love you Katy
12 steps saved my life- when I found CMA (crystal meth anonymous), I would be dead, or in prison- and that’s not an exaggeration. June 25th, 2020 is my sobriety date, not my first and god willing will have 4 years in a couple of weeks.
6 years here, love ya Katya PREACHH them traditions
first rule of fight club is nobody talks about fight club
thats very interesting to learn!!! good to know before we open our mouths n say something inappropriate and damaging
Hopefully this starts to change peoples mind about how the show exploits peoples mental health for entertainment and then portrays it as a good thing. Your essentially forcing the audience and other girls to trauma bond with each other or worse, invalidate or not care about their feelings because they don’t know them that well and if anybody life brought up trauma to you that quickly after knowing them (remember the show is filmed quicker than it’s rolled out, the audience has more time to process what the girls are saying and get updates as well via internet). Glad she was finally able to talk about it, it’s a concept of recovery I don’t think gets discussed enough
I so appreciate everything she had to say about this 😭
Love you Katya. Do what’s right for you
That really sucks to be in that dilemma. 😢 stay strong qween
As a fan of them both. This is katya telling us to keep out of their business especially when it comes to their mental health and addiction journey. Listen to this with open ears people… KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT UP
I'd never thought of it like that before at all
what ep of the pod is this !!! pls
The darkest night of the soul
I cannot even begin to imagine how surreal it must be to go through the scenarios Katya mentioned toward the end of this clip.
The reconnaissance of something you have said on a reality show and having to come to terms with that if and when you do relapse PLUS having people crowd around you putting you on a pedestal like that, it’s chilling to even try to understand in a way that Katya articulates it. I hope she knows that she is appreciated for this level of brutal honesty and I hope that many in a similar situation can feel less guilt and shame about their recovery.
I lived I LA and my AA exec boss loved to tell me who they saw at their meeting that morning. Trashy, harmful. She needs to watch this video!
As a teenager I would spend days at a time in a NA chatroom GEEKED outta my mind on meth....To me your level of sobriety is irrelevant when you're helping others!!
Idk if this is violation of the traditions but those of us in the program work out program differently from others but I love what Katya said about how it truly comes down to addicts helping addicts and that is something we must cherish more in and out the program. Sobriety is not an upward moving straight line it has lots of ups and downs
There's luckily other good groups in many places these days that leave talking about a magical sky daddy out of the equation
We all should just do our best to battle our demons and we shouldn't put anyone on a pedestal bc everyone has their own struggles and many are not even public. It's good that some people are actively trying to get better but I would never condemn a person for being in a fragile state where fighting the addiction is not possible. Addiction has some common things with depression. Its a weight you have to carry and sometimes you just don't have the strength yet to fight it
Damn, I never thought I'd see them get so serious on the podcast. I guess it happens now and then.
SMART Recovery is another option for those struggling with any addiction, and is also non-profit.
2:32 What is this expression Trixie has on her face? It's terrifying
The more I see Katya the more I like her.
you could at least post the episode title you took this from
Katya 💯💙🫶🏻
11th tradition
while i do agree, i think kayta proved that the community that comes with any addiction can go one of 2 ways, you are either drug buddies and keep each other in addiction or just like the gig story, it made harder for her to keep relapsing because she suppose to be a role model for others. signing up to be a celeb doesnt people signing up to be a role model or be right about everything you say or support, its to be an REAL example of a human struggling with lots of things still in the spotlight.
8 months now!
Katya is so profound
Katya doesn't t like admitting it but she really is a role model for young queer people around the world.
Nooooo she's NOT. You obviously missed her point.
@ramibasioni8624 yes she is baby!!! Oh their ain't no other wya
right…. I think I she would disagree
I feel as if she’s saying that “helping people” is just a byproduct of her notoriety. It isn’t an explicit endorsement of AA or an invitation for sponsorship.
I thought people would understand my post but yall seem to be a little short sighted
You speak the truth Katya! I love you so much ❤💉
Katya is right and no celeb should ever say they are "sober" publicly christ look at what poor Ben Affleck is dealing with
in a way Katyas journey is helping me by showing me the steps but the fact is, when I was developing the addiction I do think of Katya and thought to myself that drug use is not a big deal because gh does it and he’s intelligent and fab so it mustn’t be that bad.😢
Naltrexone
the 12 steps of AA align with the 12 signs of the zodiac progression
The zodiac is bullshut and even if you belive in it its disgusting that you would even bring it up during a discussion about addiction
I love that Katya pointed out the problematic aspects of AA. Another dark side that involve AA is that, the court can order you to go to AA or loose your license or your job. And when Katya said that the statistic were low, it seems to be low enough that going to AA or not going to AA have the equal chance of success or failure. If it helped her, then great. But AA shouldn't be the only option available and it shouldn't mandated by court.
That’s not a point against AA, it’s a point against the court systems mandating people go.
I wonder how katya feel about the god shit in aa. I hated it.
wow
Trixie looks like Eminem
That's so rude of you not to source the original video...
Did you not listen to anything Katya said? It's better that the original video isn't listed.
@@LegionIvory uh.. no babe 😭 the point of what she said wasn’t to clip it from her podcast and post it for a channel with no credit.
Balenciaga trixie?
🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰
“Tradition 11: Anonymity at the level of press, radio and film.” Tradition to be upheld, or outdated in today’s world? Does it apply to monetized content on the Internet? Discuss
I mean the statistics being what they are is why it’s MORE important to release them???
I think the statistics are very discouraging to see for those in recovery/wanting to recover.
@@asmrdazzlethis.
It’s a cult tho. And you have to pay.
Anyone else think trigger warnings are played out, tired and corny? The video says it’s about addiction. Seems like enough of a warning. And also, if it doesn’t have a warning, stop watching when the content get uncomfortable for you personally. No decent therapist would tell you to blanket avoid triggering content anyway.
So….you’re triggered by trigger warnings?
@@reginaph828 you’re the funny friend in the group huh
@@reginaph828 😭😭
@@19031589 I think you should take the time to learn why they are necessary instead of being triggered by them
@@cocoandgreg why are they necessary though? Mental health providers aren’t in favor of them so why are we bothering?
Cult.
If this requires a trigger warning we’re collectively doomed. Doomed.
Katya’s authenticity and openness regarding AA and sobriety/relapsing is a breath of fresh air.
I think that first sentiment is very harmful.
@@bingumsbongums if the mere utterance of addiction and AA bothers people they are doomed. Katya speaks at length about how AA is basically a precious organization that must be protected, which is true. There is nothing in what she says that is remotely triggering.
@@Dangermouse8645 but you only know that after watching the video. Maybe some people are so fresh they won’t even start it. It’s okay that people are different, it doesn’t mean bad.
@@Dangermouse8645 I do agree, what Katya says was only glowing and positive for AA. But on the off chance someone can’t handle talking about addiction right now, the trigger warning is just there to help them. Same thing Katya wants, people to have help beating addiction.
@@Dangermouse8645even positive messages about addiction can be triggering. If it isn’t for you, great. Don’t speak for everyone.
I dont get this AA nonsense. Im worried for Katya if she thinks public admition didn't bring her any accountability, when in fact it did and it pushed her into sobriety. Other ppls feelings made her want to be more truthfull with herself and her actions.
Work mindreader.
I need a drink.
Katya is always an inspiration to me. Her realness…❤️🫶
na na realness, (catch it touch it touch it catch it flavour of this fever)