How to tie a bow tie, and a criticism of the dangly sort
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By request, a guide to tying the two main types of tie: the bow tie (favoured by the dapper classes) and the other dangly sort (an affront to humanity).
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How to tie a bow tie, and a rant about the dangly sort
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My monitor needs adjusting, that shirt looked white.
WillEyedOney he has yet to modify the collar and die it
Fashion tips from Lindybiege: what to wear in the event of being in a fight. Next week, we discuss which types of sweater are the most fireproof.
the beige ones
Sam knows his stuff, also, beige trousers are great against snakes bites and shirts are the sexiest ones
well, considering nylon and polyester are highly flameble, cotton or wool are the best fire resistant! now ideally you would have a sweater that is a bit thicker so the fire or any kind of heat source has to get a lot more matter before it can properly burn. So considering that, i would think a christmas sweater would be the best option! oh and it of course has to be beige.
If you're loose in your definition of a sweater, a leather one would be optimal
shurdi3 oh wow they even exist
I've never seen anyone quite as passionate in their dislike for ties. :-)
you're like the new Justin Y.
It's great isn't it :)
i agree with every word he says about fashion in this video
They're called 'noose ties' and 'butterfly ties' in Dutch. Sort of says it all...
In Swedish, they're called "slips", related to English 'slip' (= long thin piece), and "fluga", related to English 'fly' (= insect).
@@Liggliluff
you just tought me why neck ties are called "Schlips" in German, thank you very much
On the other hand, we Dutch translated "wing tip" collar into something that would literally mean "fatherkiller", so we do have our quirks in the language of fashion
I think its time for a new shirt Sir Lindybeige! The poor thing has faded to white.
😂
1:57 A good point. In my step dad's work they tried to make them mandatory but the men pointed out that the ties would cause a health and safety risk because they could get trapped in the machinery and cause contamination issues (they work with some rather sensitive materials). So eventually the workplace opted for polo necks instead with the work logo on the front. Much more practical for that kind of job, and it still looks smart.
I'm on to you. You don't like them because they were popularized by the French!
Dangly ties are also great when combined with the document shredder at your office.
Spotting a fake at 30 yds is impressive at her age.
Wreqt She can smell them too.
Wreqt come on, she's so old, she can't even spot her grandchildren at 30 yds.
iseeicyicetea
That makes it even more impressive that she can spot a fake bow tie at that range.
Wreqt she's a good judge of character at her age and at her station
iseeicyicetea this is it! what is your nationality son! this means war!!!!!!
Your "neck tie" comment reminded me of another strange American phrase, "Horse back riding". As if there is likely to be some confusion as to where you should ride the horse!
Sidewalk is another example.
Sidewalk is a perfectly reasonable word. It's the walk on the side of the street. As opposed to boardwalk, catwalk, or various other types of walks.
That term is generally used by people who don't understand how horses work. Those of us with horse or horse like experience just say riding.
+Kevin Sullivan riding what? bikes? rollercoasters?
*****
Horses, mostly, but also a mule and donkey in my youth. Bulls do not like being ridden at all and are completely different from horses. Bicycles don't shy when you direct them over cliffs or living critters like your brother.
1:00
I'm pretty sure Men In Black with bow ties are going to look just as ridiculous...
So would agent 47. Just imagine, being strangled to death and the last thing you see is a man in a bowtie that isn't James Bond.
Btw - just found the perfect example of tie vs bowtie.... Archer Season 5, episode 12 at 12:00 in... OK, so it's a cartoon, but very realistic in this one instance...
Magnus Nygaard exactly!
Most of the problems of dangly ties can be solved with a tie clip.
Pretty much. From a practical perspective, a tie clip is the fix.
From an aesthetic perspective, I personally feel the necktie is more assigned to formal, professional attire then a bowtie does. I find bowties to mostly look like something my 6 year old cousin would wear to a wedding then a adult to a business meeting. Unless the business was something like making silly string.
Meeko1010100112 Both are acceptable formal wear, and some times, like when wearing a tuxedo, the bow tie is the norm.
kokofan50 Yeah.
I just realized I mucked my post up..
Edit...
datgoatfilms Or a smart vest. Preferably with the corresponding other 2 pieces.
datgoatfilms 100% of the problems with dangly ties can be solved by not wearing them in the first place.
I have my own sort of "theory" (if you can call it that) about how to classify ties.
And here it is...
- No tie is a sort of basic wear.
- Neck ties are for formal/dress wear.
- Bow ties are for special occasions such as fancy meetings, dinners/balls, and the sort.
“bow ties are superior in every way”, except for looks.
Love how every video ties back to some kind of conflict.
"in case you meet the queen"
oh ghads
do tell
I need this
Now then Lindy.... floppy ties can be worn safely by wearing a waistcoat, which any properly dressed chap ALWAYS wears (else where does the pocket watch go?). Failing that the dapper gent wears a tie pin, or at a pinch a tie clip.
Only scruffy city trader yobs and schoolboys wear floppy ties.
I don't get the whole idea of aliens misinterpreting why we wear ties like that. What would they be misinterpreting? That's exactly why I wear a necktie.
i loved my ties, when i was in highschool i had quite the tie collection i had if i recall correctly 103 ties by the time i'd graduated highschool, each of them real silk and unique
We need to bring back Ruffs
adam wickens #Rufflife
Strangulation is stopping your blood veins in your neck from letting blood flow so your brains don't get enough. It's not stopping you from breathing (though it is a result of that).
Never wondered why it is so fast to be strangled, within a few seconds, while you can hold your breath without fainting for 4 minutes?
CapnTates *fainting
TrueFireAnt I don't know why I didn't see that before, but thanks. Edited it.
CapnTates
You're welcome.
CapnTates It's not the inability to draw breath that would quickly render one unconscious. It's putting pressure on the carotid artery, thus restricting blood flow to the brain, that will quickly render one unconscious. The brain does not cope very well with lack of oxygen.
Of course in entertainment people die in all manner of ludicrous ways and survive other things that would very much be fatal, all in the interest of drama, so relying on entertainment for information on what is actually fatal or how long an injury takes to kill a person is not advisable.
Likewise hitting people on the back of the head is not a convenient off-switch. What you just did is probably killed that person through a hematoma in the brain, or at the very least gave them a possibly fatal concussion.
Daniel Mårtensson Yeah, that's what I said. Lloyd said the airways are the thing that's blocked by strangulation.
Thus my point, it'd be weird if it were just by preventing one to breathe, they would pass out so fast. Luckily it's not weird and you're letting the brain shrivel up by lack of blood flow.
Figuratively speaking, of course. That won't make a brain shrivel up.
And about the hit in the back of the head, it depends on how hard you're hit. The window of just knocking out with minimal damage is very small though. Easy to hit too hard, not hard enough or in some cases you give the person in question brain damage without knocking him out. That's the most unfortunate situation I guess.
I love the way that dangly ties are so phallic. They literally point at you crotch, almost as though the designer was terribly self-conscious about his package. "Oh, I can compensate by getting a large, colourful object and tie it to my neck. Then, everybody will know how important my crotch is. Behold my invention, the dick pointer."
Nicholas Johns I think you're on to something, there. The need to wander around with something bright and vertical on their front - seems to suggest that they've got nothing else suitable for the task...
Nicholas Johns Or perhaps... they're just a piece of clothe that hangs from the neck with nothing phallic in mind at all ?
Villeum Bah! Where's the fun in that?
Nicholas Johns This can only be solved one way! Let's see who has the larger one! *opens his suit and shows a tie that goes all the way down to his waist*
Viki Samoja
What the hell is "practical" about any tie? They have no actual _function_.
I must confess I share your affection for the bowtie. I've worn them since I was twenty - and am now in my fifties. They're great. And yes, they do keep out of your work while remaining stylish.
The only true advantage of the dangly tie over the bowtie is that it conceals the shirt buttons on the placket. It's harder to get away with a shirt with dodgy buttons when wearing a bowtie. Otherwise, yes, they're wonderful. BTW, I like your trick of propping the loop open with your thumb - very clever.
"Bowties are cool" 11th Doctor Who.
Nice username
Yes, he and Lindybeige are who you want to take fashion advice from. I mean, just look at the hot women fangirls they ha... what's that? They're all as wide as they are tall and have heads like a half chewed mango? Oh my.
I think any concerns with the practicality of a necktie can be alleviated with a tie clip, and I really think bowties look so juvenile. Maybe it's because they seem to be a favorite of the "classy hipster" crowd, but I just cannot take anyone seriously when they have one on. Neckties, on the other hand, are worn by politicians and businessmen and other powerful adults.
+Level 58 Death Knight Also important to note that if you are in a profession where there exists a significant probability of your tie strangling you, the wearing of clip-ons is usually mandatory.
+Level 58 Death Knight 1.bp.blogspot.com/-Pq0PSc6aD5U/UKI4uX3hi0I/AAAAAAAAANY/YZRefqKiD48/s1600/David-Cameron.jpg www.neckofstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009_01_20_obama_cic_ball_post.jpg cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/52038785-president-george-w-bush-gestures-the-number-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=OCUJ5gVf7YdJQI2Xhkc2QKu8mQbC%2FtX%2BC5SkP7OkErJR8wiyHx%2FAmau7upWY35eQ cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/57555085-presenter-david-dimbleby-poses-in-the-awards-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=OCUJ5gVf7YdJQI2Xhkc2QL%2BzIHg%2BB7ixQN1JMpM0CU%2F0w0MEIjcvtqwXkhl7JYTbw%2BYvCD9mbMFQmEVq87vgOA%3D%3D
Just some examples of important people wearing bow ties.
In America, the regular tie is indeed called the necktie, but it is also called the 'long tie' which is a very sensible name for it.
So I was in a play that took place in the early 1900s and one young man (really good looking one) wore a bow-tie. Well thanks to you Mr Lindybeige I was the only one in the whole company who knew how to tie a bow-tie, not even the older men knew how. So every night before curtain I got to tie the bow of a really good looking young man. I was blushing the whole time (worth it!). Thank you for your teaching.
The "dangly" tie is much nicer with a tie bar or a waistcoat
Since you are interested in language: Here in Germany we call those long, dangly ones "Krawatte" which hints to their origin as part of the uniform of Croatian cavalry.
Have you heard of a cravat?
On the rare occasions when I get a nice young lady in the mood to "Pull something open for me," I do NOT suddenly wish I was wearing a bow tie.
I wore a bow tie for the 1st time Saturday night and you taught me to tie it.
Thanks
but what if the "neck tie" were (was? is? ) beige ?
You can call it a Tie, or a Bow Tie... if you like
Or you can call it "A Double Slipped Overhand Knot with the standing end Captured Between"
I agree that ties look stupid when they fly around, but I only ever wear a tie with a waistcoat which seals it in nicely. And I only wear knitted ties in dark green or blue, none of these pink and blue stripey silky ties. Bleh.
And you can also just wear a tie pin.
As a Croat, I am *deeply* offended. (points if you know why)
How else is one supposed to cover up the buttons on one's shirt? The dangly tie is the straightforward answer. And doctors should only wear bow ties, anyway.
+Lindybeige I do like regular ties, and have always found bowties ridiculous. Regular ties are actually the only ones that fullfill their role of hiding all these tasteless buttons that keep your shirt closed (which makes any superficial comment about the merits of the bowtie irrelevant since they don't fulfill their role, making them inferior in every way). I guess it shows how subjective this whole matter is. Most of the problems you mention about ties flapping about and being generaly dangerous are caused by the fact that many people only wear half of the set. You're supposed to wear it with a tie bar or a tie pin to keep it where it's supposed to be and restrict the range of its movements.
And yes. Most super heroes wear dangling ties. Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent do for instance.
Actually ties are not for covering buttons. They are there to look cool and the regular (windsor) tie were made for some noble or royal guy that couldn't tie a bow tie. Windsor ties are and will always be inferiour in every way to bow ties.
I am very delighted when a Lindybeige video comes out, no matter what the content.
You have thoroughly convinced me, Lloyd. Despite the "hipstery" connotations bow ties seem to have found themselves with, they are far more practical and a lot less dangerous. I will purchase a bow tie at my nearest convenince.
the dangly tie we call in dutch ,stropdas , literaly translated noose-tie
"Bow ties are cool" - Matt Smith. The eleventh doctor. 👍
I'm a cravat person. Every day, it's a cravat. And a cravat can be tied so that it functions as a bow tie or just about any dangly tie out there (though it usually hasn't the thickness required for something like the trinity knot), as well as things like ascots and barrel knots (generally I wears a abarrel knot) and day cravats and a whole bookload of others.
I am never without a waistcoat, either, and the reason we're in this situation with dangly ties (which in many languages are not distinguished from cravats) is that they were invented with the intention of tucking them into a waistcoat, and people have decided they don't like those as much anymore. And they used to be much shorter ties as well, reaching about the solar plexus, as it didn't matter because they'd be tucked into a waistcoat anyway. I think they became longer to account for the lack of waistcoat, but then people were meant to use tie clips, which they _also_ have decided they don't like anymore. Oh feck it anyway.
As for the name of the "regular" necktie, I like the name we have in Dutch: stropdas.
In Dutch "das" is the general word for a tie (or scarf), and "strop" means noose (a loop at the end of a rope, such as those used for hanging or lassos). Which would make "noose tie" the English equivalent.
"Noose tie" is short and very descriptive, similar to "bow tie," so it would make a good candidate for an alternative more descriptive name for the necktie. Though not as much as if the word noose were more commonly used.
aren't bow ties also just a piece of cloth?
***** instead they are a lump on you neck
Undead Viking he did state that they are simply without comprehensible necessity, but there are many occasions where it is required to wear one, hence the smaller evil is still the better choice.
then again, if you are prepared to go up against the criticism you might as well go in jeans and an unironed shirt, in the end it's all just pieces of cloth in different shapes.
he also commented on the stupidity of the suit in general, because you can't move in it freely. i think that was a while back though.
Why would bow ties be "the smaller of 2 evils"? His argument against ties is that they are just a dangly piece of cloth, but in the same sense bow ties are just a lump of cloth. So how are bow ties better?
I'm not sure I completely share your opinions on "dangly" ties. Of course having a piece of cloth hanging from your neck sounds stupid and impractical, but the way western society has brought us (or me, at least) up is that bow-ties are very flashy and almost a little snobby, whereas ties tend to show a bit more sophistication. Just my thoughts though :-)
You forgot a R in your name :P
Iceberqe Yeah, I realised that shortly after I made my account. Still, it shows who actually understands the reference at least :-)
2:05 I have thought that plenty of times. Ties look good.
I quite like the dangly ones. You can tie them many different ways to give your outfit different looks
"Standard ties are unhygenic"
*puts bow tie in his mouth*
At 1:08, what about tie clips, and simply tucking it in the shirt opening where the buttons align.
I wish I could give more than one thumbs-up. Loved your rant on dangly ties!
As British English lacks a word for the "dangly tie" ("necktie"), I would suggest the term "slip tie" (or "sliptie"). In the Scandinavian languages, that tie is called "slips", which is related to the English term "slip", meaning a long thin piece of something. So a "slip tie" would be the tie that has a long thin piece dangling.
"Bow ties are superior in evvewry way" -especially in making you look like a waiter.
Is that Jeor Mormont on your wall? Why?
onkel It is, Let's see if Lindybeige explains.
onkel Jeor Fookin Mormont
onkel Do one really need to explain or justify putting a picture of Jeor fookin' Mormont on your wall?
This was useful, but more than that it funny as well, probably the funniest video I've seen in weeks.
This was a wonderful guide, thank you very much for producing it.
The strangulation loop is as much of a design flaw as the Sontaran's probic vent. Maybe it is indeed a Zahavian weakness - look I'm so much of a fighter that I can go into battle with an obvious weakness, like a peacock's anti-utilitarian "catch me if you can" tail.
The big downside of bow ties is that they are not-one-size-fits-all. Mike Tyson and Mackenzie Crook can't swap bow ties but they could trade dangly ties.
Oh yes, I almost forgot. Bow ties are cool.
Bow ties are indeed cool, and they say a great deal about the wearer. Due to the nature of work I was in, I often wore an elasticated bow tie, but I remember standing at a bar one evening, and this beautiful MILF remarked "Now that's my kind of man". Unfortunately I didn't fully comprehend what she was trying to tell me.
¡C'est la vie!
*Footnote* They are a tad eccentric - in a good way.
The Winged Messenger Good comment Wing
"Bow ties are cool!"
Reasoning why people might like the "neck" tie more; formal wear children usually wear bow ties, and the long ties are slimming to a person's figure due to its length wise position. Just some observations I've made.
Marvelous timing Lloyd. I'm getting married in a few days and I'm wearing a bow tie but was going to allow someone else to tie it for me. Now I can do it myself. Thank you for empowering me one last time before I become devoted to compromise.
I have never understood the compulsion to wrap a silk or nylon ligature around my throat and tie a slip-knot in it...thus forming a noose...
Then leaving the end dangling out as an invitation to anyone who might wish to to grab it and strangle the crap out of me...
If someone wants to garrote me, I quite insist that he bring his own damn garrote...I refuse to provide one for him...
Its a symbol of male disposability. :)
Thats why most men don't really like wearing them, but do so because its expected/required.
Pontus von Geijer
Indeed . How did this state of affairs become normalized ? Even a requirement ?
I can understand how men who actually don't do anything might fall into using such a silly piece of frippery to impress the ladies...
Rather like long nails on a woman, to advertise that she does not engage in domestic chores of any kind... a member of the leisure class...
But to require someone who actually engages in physical activity to wear one is either idiocy of the highest order , or sadism....
I just looked it up and its history is as stupid as one might expect.
It seems to have is roots in roman soldiers wearing a type of scarf to identify what regiment they belong to. This was carried forward in various countries military tradition and it seemed to have remained a rather functional piece of clothing untill a french king started wearing his enterpretation of it and all of europe wanted to jump on the fashion bandwagon.
Thanks a lot France. -.-
Pontus von Geijer
I wore a scarf or bandanna most of my life ...What soldiers call a "dog rag"...
It is an amazingly functional piece of equipment .
Ours are always made out of pure cotton, as synthetics will melt and stick to your skin if you catch on fire...
A neckerchief , to keep your throat warm.
It is soft to keep you from chafing your neck ,against your shirt collar or body armor, while you are constantly turning your head back and fourth , looking for ambushes...
It covers your mouth and nose when dust and smoke are clogging your breathing,
A wash cloth , soaked in water for your face and arms...
It can be worn as a head covering to keep the sun off, under a helmet to soak up sweat , and keep it from running down into your face...
A headband to do the same thing..
A covering for your eyes if you have to try and sleep during the day , and patrol at night.
A wound dressing if you get hurt,
A tourniquet to stop bleeding if the wound is more serious,
A sling for a broken arm..
Bindings to tie a broken leg onto splints...
A cleaning rag to clean your optics ...
If you cut off a bit and burn it inside a can, you have char cloth , to start fires , using flint and steel...
Torn in strips , to tie poles together when building a shelter...
Draped over the mouth of your canteen as a filter to strain out all the dirt and little wigglies...before you treat your water with purification pills...
More uses are probably apparent...
But a tie ? Well...it makes a pretty poor headband...
It has some interesting applications in the BDSM world...you know, to keep from chafing your girlfriend's wrists...but that's about it...
Makes sense when you think about it. Sucessfull armies have a strong tendency to gravitate toward practical functional solutions. French kings... not so much.
So roman battle attire + french king = stupid piece of clothing.
I like dangly ties, and don't fancy bow ties.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
***** I suppose you just have more of a deathwish than the common plebeian
Zamandu What can I say? I like to live on the edge.
Hey Lloyd, firstly thanks for making lots of interesting, illuminating and entertaining videos. Now, in this one, there was a moment when you said 'Bowties are...' and paused. You made me scream 'COOL!' at the monitor, I hope that was intentional ;). Nice waistcoat btw.
I always wanted to know how to tie one! Now I need to get a few. Thanks
2:02 I actually think that a lot.
What about a cravat? I always have to wear them at weddings. I hate suits.
Sorry, guys. A tied tie still looks better than a clip-on any day. Lloyd, this is one of the better how to tie a bow tie videos that I've seen. Thanks for the public service.
Thankyou for showing me this - it's better than my current method.
... You're supposed to wear a tie clip/pin with the long ties, if you don't want them to get in the way.
"They're superior in every way"
2 seconds later:
"They are tricky to tie"
You restore my faith in humanity Lloyd.
just been rewatching Archer, Se5 Ep12 at roughly the 12 minute mark Lloyds point about the lack of strangulation options compaired to neck ties is totally validated. This man knows what's what
Lloyd do a piece on breakfast and its implication to life
Hey you combed your hair.
Back in 1996, I was on stage in a production of Moliere's "Tartuffe" in Santa Cruz, and there was a moment in which I had a costume change in about 60 seconds for each performance. Part of that costume change involved tying a bow tie (one of those 19th century looking bigger ones rather than the modern standard today). I had to practice tying a bow tie until I could get it down in about 20 seconds flat (given that we had to put on pants and a shirt and jacket and shoes in that 60 second costume change).
I practiced it so often to get it right that I don't think I'll ever, ever, forget it for the rest of my life.
Also, don't forget that Jon Pertwee, and Matt Smith wore bow ties of one sort or another. Bow ties are cool (as Matt would say).
It is my firm belief that superheros only have capes to inicate to the onlooker the direction they are flying (which is always towards the danger). Similarly a group of businessmen will know that danger is near and where to flee when they see a distressed member of their group running by with his necktie flopping over his shoulder.
I must disagree, I think bow ties look absurd and you'd never catch me wearing one.
The dangly ones look ridiculous. It's a big and dangerous cloth arrow pointing at your dick.
"These are just *_STUPID_* " says the man who has just had a suit of armour made for himself.
Lindybiege: bow tie best tie
Americans: bolo tie best tie
You are so funny!! really!! Just loved it!! a hello from Brazil 👋
where on earth did you get that waistcoat?
Devil's Advocate It looks suspiciously like a jacket with the arms cut off.
Doreen Green no; it's one third of a three piece suit.
Devil's Advocate It is unusual for a standard suit waistcoat. It's cut more like a dinner jacket's waistcoat with such very low buttoning. Sometimes a double breasted waistcoat is lower buttoned, but this doesn't look double breasted. So it's a bit of an oddity.
lol, I love you, Lloyd, but I must disagree on some points. 1. Easily get a tie clip/pin to stop awkward floppiness. 2. That's not the part that tightens the slipknot so no danger there. 3. Even when the bit that tightens the knot is engaged, there still needs to be pressure on the knot itself to tighten it, so still no danger. 4. A removed long tie is a shape much more conducive to whip- snapping people and pets and, what more should I want to end my gruelling work day with than a little cat- and/or wife- pestering? 5. No woman has ever seductively pulled a man in for a kiss by his bowtie because it's awkward and feels silly.
5. Yeah, she usually grabs quite a bit lower for that.
@@philipwebb960 you got a lady pullin you around by the dangles?
If you owned any decent neck ties I would suggest you obtain a nice tie clip, tie bar, pin chain, or tie stay to compliment your cufflinks. Since it appears your selection of neck ties is abysmal, I accept your preference for the bow tie as the logic of necessity.
Your very well reasoned and reasonable argument notwithstanding, I'd still like to request a tutorial on the dangly death cloth.
Just saying, but most people wear ties with the bottom tucked into the jacket.
+Nukeclears Or with tie pins or tie clips.
Though I agree with you on most parts, the neck tie is the standart here in germany and we have to wear them on balls.
JoschiChr Well there's your problem. They go around your neck, not your balls.
Clockwork Knight god damn you I was taking a bite out of a chocolate bar when I glanced below the first comment, saw yours and almost choked to death while imagining a german gentleman without trousers with a necktie dangling from his balls.
Clockwork Knight That's what you think.
JoschiChr
It could be a fresh new style :O
Clockwork Knight It "could"? It IS
As a female, I have to say I think ties (the dangly sort) are very smart on guys and very attractive. On the other hand, I had to wear a tie as part of my school uniform and I often wondered why I had a long piece of utterly pointless cloth hanging from my neck.
Each and every one of the "disadvantages" of the long tie that you spoke of could be subverted by wearing a waistcoat (you're British, yeah?)and/or tie clip/pin/chain. And James Bond wears bowties because he has a very gentlemanly respect for dress codes, in the case of casinos, black tie, while often fighting in long ties.
Lloyd NO! Bowties are no longer for cool people they're for hipsters! Please don't become a hipster!
StealthKab or a fez. too many people decided that the doctor who look was cool because the doctor said so.
Moose McGoose Too late he is hip!
Lindybeige has been doing stuff that isn't cool before it was cool to do stuff that isn't cool.
So the question becomes, what is the good sir's opinion of cravats?
+TheSparda81 They should be VERY now. I wear them and then turn the heating off because they are so warm. I love them. (Just try to go for the more british style and, none of this silly "wearing a cravat like a really short tie - french style nonsense: It just falls apart. (Much like any french Military..[insert verb or noun].)"
+TheSparda81 +Reckless Roges
I can't believe anyone even said that. I was about to talk about how much I love them and wear one every single day. Can't stand things that were intended as a modern bow tie or dangly tie. I have a cravat in each colour and determine its function by tying it so that it fulfils that function; small bow tie, floppy bow tie, ascot, day cravat, ruche, waterfall, and all the rest.
+TheSparda81 I don't understand how the least formal type of neckwear is designated by some as the type of neckwear to have at a wedding.
Some ties look fantastic!
thankyou this has always been somewhat o a mystery to me.
bow ties are for waiters and casino workers
Dave Kent "..." and secret agents! apparently
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surprisingly, alrgely no tie at all
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Dave Kent Wow, those sure are some ugly ties. I've never understood the skinny ones
Aren't tie clips a thing in Britain?
Yeah, but then you look just as much of an idiot because you have a bit of dangly cloth pinned to you.
Anyway, tie clips often come off if you're doing anything more energetic than being sat at an office table.
An hybrid rant and instructional video!
That was pretty awesome in a useful sort of fashion (excuse the pun), ties were compulsory in school here as a youngster so the "dreaded dangly" type was all I'd ever been acquainted with personally...
That's exactly why I wear a necktie. I am so alpha that I'm dating everyone else to do something about it. Also, waiters and servers for formal function usually wear bow ties so I don't wear bow ties because I see them as having less status. You can't take a man with a bow tie seriously. You look like you're either a servant or a clown.
What about black and white tie events? You know, the ones with societies elite and world leaders attending...
NOT beige! UNSUB.
The primary issues you are mentioning with dangly ties can be fixed with clip ons. Most cops use clip on ties. Secondly a dangly tie can double as a weapon in case *you* need to strangle someone.
I've always found that a good, tasteful four-in-hand tie/cravat (that's the dangly one) in a subtle color or knit and that's not so thick can be a very versatile and attractive accessory when pinned gently to my shirt placket with a tie bar or pin. But a good hand-tied bow tie is absolutely gorgeous in its own right and at the right time!
All of these are, of course, completely superficial additions to an outfit, a remnant of a time long past where men mimicked some birds attempting to win over mates with garish plumage!
you can still grab the loop around your neck overhand and twist.
Choking works great with pressure on the side of the neck too, its very common in judo to choke someone using their collar in this manner.