I forgot how much I loved this episode. We get to meet Ronan (a great introduction), McKay is shown to be smart enough to outsmart himself (hehehe), and Ford is allowed to be unpredictable and intriguing. I'll always feel disappointment with the wasted potential of Ford (especially when this episode showed the possibilities of this arc for him), but I take solace in thought that he is still running around the Pegasus Galaxy being annoying to the Wraith.
I like that while trying to emulate the role Teal'C played in a meta sense, Ronon is his own kind of alien + soldier. The two are similar, but very distinct.
This is a great episode and Ronan was a great character from day 1. I didn't hate Ford, but he was the Harry Kim of Stargate But... I thought the Wraith enzyme thing made him really interesting. I wanted to see more of Addict Super Ford. They did eventually do something with Ford, it's a shame it took so long to give the actor something that he deserved and it's an even bigger shame that they couldn't keep that threat going. Although it's a lazy parallel to compare them, I love this episode and The Hunted' From TNG. High-ranking episodes from their respective series'
One of the other things that get more entertaining is Lorne is also donating his looks to a cutting edge android for use in law enforcement in a "quiet" company town in Oregon.
“Some must be sacrificed if all are to be saved.” The lack of resolution is a bummer, but if you try to follow up *without* any good ideas, you get “Fury”.
I never did like Ford. Even before the Wraith enzyme, he always came off like the kind of guy who couldn't take "No" for an answer, like he had missed that one character-building punch to the mouth he had needed as a kid. I think the writers recognized that, because once he was on the enzyme, that's a recurring theme. He even drugs their food one time. When he says the enzyme is freeing him, I think that's what he's really talking about.
I think another factor about why the Wraith don't just mass produce human clones, is because when they feed they have no self-control. Remember that Wraith Keeper from the pilot? After she fed on that Athosian guy, a couple hours later, she began to feed on col. Summer, and the implication seemed that she was going to feed on everyone from that prison cell. Later in the show, we see that the Wraith don't have to feed every few hours, they can go on for days if not longer before their bodies begin to weaken. And yet, even an overfed Wraith will still feed, that Wraith survivor fed on all his fellow Wraith crew still had the crazy regeneration after 10k years of hibernation, yet still felt the need to feed on two Atlantis redshirts, and then was going to feed on Sheppard and McKay. If the Wraith were to clone humans en masse, they'd need to clone billions of them, and given that during the Lantean-Wraith war, the Wraith were only able to increase their numbers a hundred fold using stolen ZPM's, they don't have access to ZPMs anymore, meaning the Wraith won't be able to mass produce human clones, so they'll no longer be able to gorge themselves, so they'll have to curtail their feeding frenzy somehow.
Someone marked by those in power, constantly on the move, and if he stops for a night disaster strikes. Ronan is about a Backstory of Pain and misery and lacks a 400lbs Sword to be Guts from Berserk
Exhaustion blended the words and I swear I read "Ronan is a story about Back Pain" and I'm tired enough to wonder if that was an incredibly profound insight
no non nonon no The problem was not that Ford was out of place. He was so in place that he was boring. He was boring because he did not stand out. At all.
I really wish they'd followed through with Ford's arc, the lack of closure really hurt the show in the long run. I know they eventually gave him an ending in the books, but it should have been in the show. As is it just feels a bit like a waste.
I don't think promoting Ford to be the head of his own team would have worked as well because the actor was too young to convincingly play a team lead. And the enthusiasm part of his character was directly at odds with being a team leader.
I think they could've swung it given how short-staffed they were. Just have an episode where they get ambushed and they lose a couple officers that require Weir to give some people field promotions.
While replacing Ford with Ronon was probably for the best, I kind of wish they'd tried to do more with Ford.
Same, I feel disappointment over that.
his story ends good in the books
The biggest criticism at the time is it felt like they were constantly writing out characters when they didn’t know what to do with them.
I forgot how much I loved this episode. We get to meet Ronan (a great introduction), McKay is shown to be smart enough to outsmart himself (hehehe), and Ford is allowed to be unpredictable and intriguing. I'll always feel disappointment with the wasted potential of Ford (especially when this episode showed the possibilities of this arc for him), but I take solace in thought that he is still running around the Pegasus Galaxy being annoying to the Wraith.
I like that while trying to emulate the role Teal'C played in a meta sense, Ronon is his own kind of alien + soldier. The two are similar, but very distinct.
Atlantis' "Midway", which features both of them, is a pretty good episode.
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This is a great episode and Ronan was a great character from day 1. I didn't hate Ford, but he was the Harry Kim of Stargate But... I thought the Wraith enzyme thing made him really interesting. I wanted to see more of Addict Super Ford. They did eventually do something with Ford, it's a shame it took so long to give the actor something that he deserved and it's an even bigger shame that they couldn't keep that threat going. Although it's a lazy parallel to compare them, I love this episode and The Hunted' From TNG. High-ranking episodes from their respective series'
"And scared people annoy Mr. Trigger finger! Hu hu hu!"
One of the other things that get more entertaining is Lorne is also donating his looks to a cutting edge android for use in law enforcement in a "quiet" company town in Oregon.
Hit the diner while you're passing through. They'll have something for your tastes
“Some must be sacrificed if all are to be saved.” The lack of resolution is a bummer, but if you try to follow up *without* any good ideas, you get “Fury”.
I never did like Ford. Even before the Wraith enzyme, he always came off like the kind of guy who couldn't take "No" for an answer, like he had missed that one character-building punch to the mouth he had needed as a kid. I think the writers recognized that, because once he was on the enzyme, that's a recurring theme. He even drugs their food one time. When he says the enzyme is freeing him, I think that's what he's really talking about.
I think another factor about why the Wraith don't just mass produce human clones, is because when they feed they have no self-control. Remember that Wraith Keeper from the pilot? After she fed on that Athosian guy, a couple hours later, she began to feed on col. Summer, and the implication seemed that she was going to feed on everyone from that prison cell. Later in the show, we see that the Wraith don't have to feed every few hours, they can go on for days if not longer before their bodies begin to weaken. And yet, even an overfed Wraith will still feed, that Wraith survivor fed on all his fellow Wraith crew still had the crazy regeneration after 10k years of hibernation, yet still felt the need to feed on two Atlantis redshirts, and then was going to feed on Sheppard and McKay. If the Wraith were to clone humans en masse, they'd need to clone billions of them, and given that during the Lantean-Wraith war, the Wraith were only able to increase their numbers a hundred fold using stolen ZPM's, they don't have access to ZPMs anymore, meaning the Wraith won't be able to mass produce human clones, so they'll no longer be able to gorge themselves, so they'll have to curtail their feeding frenzy somehow.
A fair assertion.
The problem with adding the new character is that not only do they have to watch out for Wraiths, but Black Manta as well. 😅 Not sorry.
I'd say rival tribes too, but they'd get mowed down with ease.
Thanks Chuck!
Someone marked by those in power, constantly on the move, and if he stops for a night disaster strikes.
Ronan is about a Backstory of Pain and misery and lacks a 400lbs Sword to be Guts from Berserk
I get what you're saying, but Ronan had a wonderful life compared to Guts. Similar, but radically different scale of suffering.
Exhaustion blended the words and I swear I read "Ronan is a story about Back Pain" and I'm tired enough to wonder if that was an incredibly profound insight
@@sfdebrisred6555 🤣 I mean, taking that tracker out had to hurt
Let's be honest, Ford wasn't just out of place, he was so boring! Ronnon was awesome so it was a very welcome change.
no non nonon no
The problem was not that Ford was out of place.
He was so in place that he was boring. He was boring because he did not stand out. At all.
I really wish they'd followed through with Ford's arc, the lack of closure really hurt the show in the long run. I know they eventually gave him an ending in the books, but it should have been in the show. As is it just feels a bit like a waste.
I don't think promoting Ford to be the head of his own team would have worked as well because the actor was too young to convincingly play a team lead. And the enthusiasm part of his character was directly at odds with being a team leader.
I think they could've swung it given how short-staffed they were. Just have an episode where they get ambushed and they lose a couple officers that require Weir to give some people field promotions.
@@mikegates8993 Civilians can't give field promotions. Sheppard could have though, yeah.