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Hey, do you have a list of all the things you mentioned to help with the withdrawal process? I'll just watch the video again if I need to, but if you have the list handy, that would be awesome.
They are not even truly happy they just feel good! 🙂 True happiness is to know that you are doing the right things even if they are not easy to do often times. Jesus said: ,,There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving.” (Acts 20:35) And: ,,Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." (Matthew 5:3) So to have a good relationship with the true God this is true happiness! 🙂🙏📖🌈☀️🥰
For all the smart asses kratom is a plant. but you take big pharmas poisonous toxic drugs. Don’t judge you no better than anyone so come off your high horses! please !!
I am approaching 72 hours of going cold turkey off Kratom and I must say that the past 2 days sucked pretty bad but watching this whole video helped me smile laugh and cry all at the same time thank you bro for taking the time to do this for those who are out there going threw withdrawal. Bless your heart Jesus Christ is KING!☝️👑💯
Hello, let me know how you doing now. The first week is rough, cold, heavy and dark, it is important to be kind to yourself and patience. Take it eazy if you have to (by that I mean take sick days and stay comfortably home). Im on day 9 now and I have to say that yesterday was the first day that I felt energetic and wasnt bombarded with cravings, good day. Today was more neutral/frustrating, but at least I know that good days will eventually happen. And that at least for me was something I could never reach with kratom, that stuff robbed me of emotions.
Hey you're not alone! How are you doing now? It is none of my business but I hope you're doing well. I'm on week 3 right now my body aches last night were fing unexpected and sucked.
Restless legs is the worst. It’s what causes my insomnia. You’re a life saver! Appreciate it man. Not looking forward to thrashing around my bed in a pool of my own sweat. Probably won’t be that bad but I’m ready for the worst!
That's why I don't see myself able to quit alone at home. I really believe I must admit myself to some sort of treatment center. Away from the K. I really have to be locked up for at least............. 7 days! I need a "jump start". And when I do go to one of these treatment centers I will refuse all medications! Not even something at night to help me sleep! I really believe that you need to get it out of your system in order to start new. Without any help whatsoever. I truly believe that .I'd rather detox in a unit. A "SAFE" umm structural environment. Dig?
@@ricknowak4582 I'll tell you that medications for sleep are a nightmare too if you get addicted to them. My coworker is an alcoholic and also taking some kind of sleep medications. He's dull for 6 hours and he wakes up at 3 or 4 am and he either needs another half of a tablet or a drink. It's scary that alcohol or even sleep meds can become demons.
Kratom withdrawals never lasted me more than 3 days and I’d be completely normal on day 4, even after few years if daily use, though my dose was between 3-5 grams 3-4 times a day. The best thing that got me through was top shelf cannabis, sativa especially got rid of my withdrawals to the point that I completely forgot I was in withdrawals for 3 hrs before I started to feel them again. Also I took edibles (with cbd and cbn) black seed oil, phenibut ( be careful phenibut can become addictive if used for long period of time) and indica at night for sleep, all other sleeping herbs I tried barely or didn’t help at all. Gabapentin also helps. Megadosing vitamin c absolutely helped a lot! I took up to 3000 units of it everytime withdrawels were unbearable. Absolutely no stimulants, coffee would make withdrawals much worste! 1hr of direct sunlight also really helped as well as walks but I know it’s really difficult to do any exercise even walking when on withdrawals. Hot baths all day and finally binge watching some interesting anime or tv shows throughout the day made time fly. Hope this helped.
True story I got addicted too phenibut no sleep for 3 days ended up in a crisis center was diagnosed scitzo I'm not just the addiction too phenibut gave me auditory hallucinations...stupid doctors even after telling them like no your something else whatever I'm still fighting it and I'm still not bipolar or any of that...on meds for it making me crazy no lie .
At 26 I also nearly died from alcohol withdrawal, it was terrifying. Now I'm 4 years sober from alcohol but stuck with kratom. Kratom withdrawal sucks too.
Hey man I don't know if I'll be ready today or tomorrow or next week or next month but I know the ride needs to end somewhere and knowing other folks have risen above the same issues I've dealt with in this most recent arc of my life always makes me feel a little more hopeful. Saved this to my watch later for the time I inevitably jump off and decide to kick
There’s no way around it. Time will pass , go through it to lower tolerance or get off. First few days the time drags, but by day 3 it will start to move quicker for you.
@@johnsadler3601 I know that's true, I've been through it a couple times before. My first CT kick lasted probably about a full week before I felt even remotely human again and I've struggled with tapers so it feels like a rock and a hard place but it's going to have to happen eventually
I'm back! And trying to taper. I feel like shit. Mostly just mentally and emotionally right now. Feel cold and alone and like every feeling I should have dealt with in the past few years is all hitting me like a truck. It sucks and I am not even very deep into it yet. Hoping to emerge from this safely
This was me for the past couple of years. Keep putting off getting sober now I’m meeting the consequences of my actions. My life about to fall apart if I don’t get my shit together
Exercise/movement, diet and water are huge! Cold or hot showers too. You have to fill the void and confusion, help the bodies healing process. Great series.. many will be needing this. Wishing you the best moving forward.
Great video. I just wanted to say as a former heroin and kratom addict myself. It led to hypothyroidism and there's strong connection now to opiate and kratom abuse and thyroid dysfunction. And that is a nightmare in itself navigating the synthroid and the EXTREME anxiety that comes with thyroid! Holy shit lol. Thank you for making this!
I think the mental stuff once you get passed the physical is a lot harder. Gotta have some strong Will power and wanna stay sober. It’s hard. Props to anyone in recovery. You got this!
I’m 3 years sober from a few things.. I still take kratom. But anyone that says it’s easy is a liar. Every day is a battle and sometimes a struggle. You just have to wanna be clean more than you wanna use and feel good for that limited amount of time.
@@Jess_wam I can totally relate to your input decsmama. The problem for me, personally, is that I never truly know if I want to get sober or if I'm subtly tricking myself into walking into something I know I'll fail. I don't trust myself. Honestly. I don't. I. admittedly, have the eerie ability to charm and con for amusement or personal gain (i try to mainly use it for the good though) but deep down - I con myself more than anyone else. Whenever I hear a success story where a dude goes to rehab - joins the program - and builds up a successful sober life - I always imagine where his mindset was at when he decided to quit. This time around I began to feel something similar to that. Creating this channel has made a huge impact on my life and has given me so much drive that it's honestly overwhelming. But - the future is always unknown. thanks for watching - appreciate ya -b.harm
@@Jess_wam It is really hard also for the same reason why it can be hard to quit nicotine or alcohol or even weed, quick and effective (short-term) coping mechanism that is easily accessible from legal shops at any time during the week, heck you can even have it delivered to you and dont have to leave the house. You dont have to deal with shady dealers etc.. sometimes I really hate the times that we live in.
I was thinking of getting two sub ozone to take for the first week of kratom withdrawal. I can set pills down no problem so I’m not worried about getting hooked. Would this help the process, I can’t seem to find anyone talking about this idea?!?
I’m on day 5, with restless legs being the worst symptom for most, I would definitely recommend trying to stay awake. Don’t try and sleep when it’s really acting up. Trying to sleep just makes it pure misery…
You can do it!!!! You just have to be sick and tired of being sick and tired and learn to hate the substance you once enjoyed Hope you are doing well 🙏
This is one of the best videos on quitting Kratom. it gives you all the details, all the ups, all the downs, all the pitfalls all the pain; but it also gives you all the positive that you will receive if you quit, or maybe after 30 or 50 days you’ll feel like a goddamn kid again and yes, forgive me for saying this, but extremely horny. the only thing I have to say about videos like this is don’t watch too many of them and you start to focus on the negative when you get all neurotic and crazy. Just watch them once and walk away with so much valuable quitting advice. Thank you dude!
One neat trick I've realized is that the airborne tablets work great for withdrawal symptoms. They're high in Vitamin C, A, and E. I had been getting some cold like symptoms: sore throat, coughing, stuffy nose. I've been getting a lot of relief shortly after consuming one.
Never did it more than 4 days a week, and would always mix and match the days I’d take it, so I think that really saved my ass, although the dose got super high over the year. Day 2-3 I had physical wd, since day 4 it’s been that anodea or whatever you said. Really does make every single second seem to drag on, you really are just waiting to get through the days. By far is the hardest part about this. Currently on day 7 so I’m still not out of the woods at all. On a RUclips binge right now just to try and check out for a second because I can’t stand to try and do anything that puts me in the moment, the moment sucks. Weed helps a little bit but only so much, and you’re right there’s something strange with exercise, don’t know exactly what feels better but it makes me feel just a little less like a piece of shit, which helps. This video has been the most enjoyable thing for me today, helps to feel understood like this. Thanks m8 EDIT: 3 weeks in, mentally feel way better now. I’m not going to lie and say I found all this hidden energy..I’ll even be brutally honest and say life is boring, but it always was. Really glad to be out of the first 2 weeks..mentally it was hell.
I don’t know how I missed this video but I’m watching it now…I have heard it’s easy to fall into the well it’s a lot harder to climb out as a metaphor for addiction and sobriety…I am currently trying to climb out of the well half way there God willing I will get there eventually ✨
@@bluestar7757how are you doing? I'm in the process of quitting now. Did you get your RUclips handle from the Warriors books? Just asking because my daughter loves those books. 😺
Day 8 after 5 years serving that ‘Green Demon’! Let my self believe all the bull online about how easy it was to stop. The insomnia is MADDENING! Probably watch 100 withdrawal chronicle video (depressing) … watching yours is the first time I laughed out old in 8 days in think. Thank you!
Currently on day 3 of quitting Kratom watching this video made me feel great I honestly haven’t had any major withdrawals but ofcourse I been taking CALM and AIRBORNE every time I feel myself feeling sluggish, I took Kratom for 3 years straight never took a break was up to 30Gs a day I’m glad I’m doing this detox stay strong everyone you can do this!
I’m in the process of tapering. The tapering is going pretty well… I need to make another jump soon. Waiting for calm to come from Amazon hopefully that will help
@@spfadden082711 should help a lot I’m on week 2 and feel great! Still not completely clean I still feel the cravings there but a lot more controllable than the first week, good luck bro
@@ssiliezar88 that’s awesome. It’s gonna take time. I have been using this crap for 3 years or so. I got back surgery and didn’t want to take the meds so I did some research and heard great things about kratom. Well it backfired haha
Today was day one for me. God dammit it was the longest day of my life. My experience has been restless leg and boredom. Feeling uncomfortable in my skin and my skin sweats and is cold. Very very uncomfortable. I’m coming from very high dosages throughout the day. I’m starting this journey and no one knows I even took kratom except for one person. I told him and told him I need him now more than ever. It was funny. One day I just thought to myself, I got a fuckin problem. Never had I ever though that before. But the last year something hasn’t been right with myself. Idk man. I’m scared. I’ve been through hell in my lifetime, and the truth is the fear I have of withdrawing is extreme for me. I’d happily go back overseas to avoid it if I could. I’m not one to be afraid of pain or dying, really anything, but this, this terrifies me. If you are starting this journey or have went through it. Let me know. Keep in touch. I think kratom can be very beneficial in moderation, unfortunately some of us take it overboard. Wish you guys all the best. Remember, your the power here. Overcome. Thank you for the video brother. I and many other appreciate it more than we can explain
I relate to you a lot with this "something is off".....have you been tested for ADHD? I think a lot of drug addict have undiagnosed ADHD and have been self medicating their whole life.
This is the best and truest video on withdrawal I have ever seen, I could relate to everything you said, it's the restless leg syndrome that really sends me nutty and the cold showers really do help if you can pluck up the bottle to step under it. Thanks mate 👍
Existential boredom from WD is what most commonly makes me relapse, it is so rough.. nothing feels worth a while and time is frustrating like you said! and the chills nonstop are probably the worst for me, thankfully it subsides only after like 4 days. Insomnia can be a nightmare, but honestly if I manage to sleep for 4 hours I feel MUCH more "rested" than sleeping 10 hours on a kratom nod-off slump. It is definitely worth the pain to cleanse your body from kratom brother! No matter what justification someone might have for keep using kratom, it is weight on your body no doubt. Not as a long term solution anyway... Staying sober is the best teacher of life, remember that! Also man the lower back pain everytime I laid down for more than 30 minutes, burning tense pain like 7.5/10. I had the same lower back pain when I had covid.
I dont want to say that kratom is "bad" but it is the kind of substance that will very likely make you want to increase your doses and keep taking it, even if it doesnt feel good anymore. For some people it traps them and this problem cannot be ignored imo. But yeah take good care about your body and mind, that is the most important, whether you use or not use.
I can relate to this so hard. There was some bullshiter on youtube that says. OH kratom WD is for pussies. You don't have something to compare to that. Fucking tired of people bullshiting about kratom. Like they want only the good side of kratom and with drugs in general, there is always the other side of the coin. But YOU spoke the truth and amen to that.
Yes the back pain on kratom withdrawals were SO BAD! Really nice text! Are you off the kratom? I am unfortunately still on it and it completely takes my energy away! Also it makes me really lethargic, indifferent/numb and DEPRESSED! 😔😪 🙂
I discovered your channel like a week ago, and I love it so much. Gonna get off kratom soon and now I’m planning to vlog it once I start. I’m nowhere as good at editing as you, but ima do it.
I’m on day 7 and it’s been hell. Yesterday was the worst, I had to smoke weed cos my legs hurt so bad I couldn’t stand it. I don’t like weed but I had things to do. I’m so exhausted but I’ll just sleep an hour and wake up feeling shit. I have some gabapentin but I don’t really want to get addicted to that, but idk I had to take some of my mother’s Xanax cos I had so much anxiety. But the worst symptom is the hopelessness. I’ve had insomnia my whole life so it’s bad, but the body aches and hopelessness is the worst withdrawals for me.
I’m coming off now. Only tried it for about 41/2 days but you DO FEEL THE WITHDRAWAL even with that short of time. I didn’t like the feeling that well. Feeling like I was a slave to a capsule,trying to keep up with how many,how much. It all was just too much for me. All I can say is you can get out. You are strong enough to do it. Do not give up on yourself. God is there for you. Talk to Him.
Your rant on how people can do so much in their day while you have barely any energy is so real. Thats why i got hooked on the Kratom in the first place, i was mad that i was always fatigued. Well the only think Kratom made me was wasting time high. I regret it, instead i should have go visit my doctor and make a blood scan and supplement myself with vitamins.
Brandon, your videos are helpful. You remind me of myself in a lot of ways. I was disheartened to see you haven't been uploading for almost a year. Hope you are doing well and thank you for putting yourself out there for us.
As a woman and an over 20 year addict brain, we just have a higher pain tolerance, but I can guarantee you the withdrawal is just as bad. I had a boyfriend who is able to deal with the withdrawal like a champ and I was so jealous because I just couldn’t do it, so I think it depends on the person, not the gender. I have a very strong mind and this is one thing that has beaten me every time.
I dont agree with that. Its not even close. When I had to quit pain killers that was the hardest thing I ever did. Kratom is closer to coffee and thats just a fact. Working with kratom daily and with all sorts of people nobody has ever told me stopping kratom is as hard as quitting opiates are heroin. The biggest problem is people make it a bad thing. When you fill guilty about doing something it makes it harder to quit and you will notice withdraw more. Just stay busy and eat better and take vitamins especially vitamin d3 which is a huge one that most people need more of
Hey man, you have a way about you that really reaches people in the situation we have all gotten ourselves into. There are more pro shot videos on the topic but none are as near honest and representative of the detox process as yours. I've been there and I know, and all of this is totally familiar. You are helping a lot of people. Good job bro.
Good video … the hardest part for me was trying to be productive at work. When I first quit, I took a week off work which helped a lot. The issue I had was while I was going through weeks of PAWS, I was functioning but had zero motivation and just felt like ass. While feeling this way, it’s so hard just going to work for 8-10 hours a day and was even harder being productive.
@@maxhill6424 ,.. without it, just being able to go to work is hard but being productive at work is really really hard. I understand believe me. My best advice is have a plan in advance to quit. Pick a date when you can take a week or more off work or when you have vacation time. The day you stop, just stay in bed for the first 5 days and just tell people you have the flu. Since you will most likely have flu like symptoms for a few days, nobody will think twice. After 5-7 days, you should start feeling a little better each day that passes. After about 10-14 days in total, you should be able to function normally (work, gym, etc) but you’re gonna still feel a bit off and depressed and for a bit. It sucks dude, I’m not gonna lie. But when the negative feelings start going away, happiness returns and you start feeling like yourself again, it’s like wow. It just takes time with no relapse otherwise you gotta deal with misery of withdrawals all over again.
@@maxhill6424 .. and yes, people will probably notice you’re a bit different. You’ll just seem a bit quiet, and not as social. Just say you’re on a new diet or taking supplements and it’s messing with you. Or say a family member has health issues and it’s stressing you out.
@@ajbucks yeah I’m getting my supplements ready now I will start hydrating tomorrow. I lost my job the other day so I’m between jobs. I plan on taking this week off and powering through this. I have tried once before and my withdrawals are so bad almost hallucinating. I don’t take more than a half ounce 250 grams last me about two weeks but damnit I have to quit while my kids are still young. Bro I knew it was coming out of my because I looked like I was shitting compacted seaweed turds. I made it 36 hours and caved in. I have all these supplements I want to get but don’t want to overload.
This is the only video i have ever seen of yours .I agree with so much with what you said... Im quitting the harder stuff using kratom and low low dose subs again finally . Essentially after hitting rock bottom without getting arrested lmao .. About 6 days today... still feeling bad cause of how much I was doing, been on and off for 12 years just real time for me to grow , like you said it's time for me to pay the piper thumbs 👍.. On a walk right now , The long video helped me out thanks
Bro great video! I hope you're still going with your channel cause it seems you have a niche here and your personality makes it fun to watch. I currently take Kratom and am looking to come off also which is why I stumbled across your video but anyway, good stuff dude. Informative but in an entertaining way
What a video! Awesome stuff on here. I jumped ship and did the cold turkey thing in July of this year and the struggle was real for 30 days. I thought that I’d NEVER be without a substance of sorts. I counted myself fully clean because I stopped the hard stuff years ago but k had its claws on me. I needed it to function and that there is a big problem. I started thinking, “what if one day I need to be put under for some crazy surgery but they can’t figure out a dose because of my tolerance on this stuff?” “How will I ever get a colonoscopy when I’m older if I can’t go 4-5 hours without this stuff but you have to fast for two days before this type of procedure? Also, how will I clean out my system in two days when k clogs me up?” I mean, these were serious questions bogging me down during my use. I just knew I couldn’t continue because the cons were outweighing the pros. If k works for you and you see benefits to your use then kudos to you. I’m not one to preach and tell peeps there’s only one way. For me, it was time and I wake up and go to sleep without the k cloud over me. A new “normal” is attainable but you have to work at finding out what that is. Find the warrior spirit within you and venture into the forest of self discovery. You might be pleasantly surprised at what you find.
"“what if one day I need to be put under for some crazy surgery but they can’t figure out a dose because of my tolerance on this stuff?" That's a CONSTANT fear of mine as well - and it's also the main reason I'll never take an antidepressant or an anti psychotic - or anything like that. I won't take ANYTHING that causes 9 months to two years of withdrawal. There's always a real possibility that eventually we'll get separated from our precious kratom and will have to experience whatever the thing is stone cold sober and in absolute misery. For me - I worry about SHTF (SH** hits the fan) and being that America is on the verge of total collapse and a potential civil war (call me crazy but i genuinely believe that could happen) - It becomes something to definitely consider cautiously. I know so many people on benzos - and I always subtly ask them - "what if some apocalyptic walking dead type sh** happens and you have to live in the woods?" and the fear on their face becomes immediately evident and palpable. And YES - every drug eventually reveals its true nature - a liar. Every drug that makes you happy during the honey moon phase will eventually turn on you and chip away at bits of your soul. Especially suboxone. If you go on reddit and read about people that are considering quitting suboxone? they all sound like an emotionless wreck. "A new “normal” is attainable but you have to work at finding out what that is. " One thing I forgot to mention - (and i'm deeply considering making a quitting kratom guide pt. 2) is the fact that you have to change your whole life - which is deeply uncomfortable and difficult. For me? RUclips is a huge trigger. I waste so much time on this dumb site and it persistently makes me cynical and depressed. That's one of the reasons rehab is so recommendable is because you're in a new environment - seperated from the outside world - and re-learn to live your life from scratch. It sounds farfetched - (because i've never been to a rehab that had solely kratom addicts) but I'm beginning to believe that rehab is one of the best ways to approach ANY withdrawal (and trust me - i personally can't do it - I've ran out of every rehab I've ever been to after a week. Mainly due to my crippling social anxiety issues - but i still always relapse so I always leave rehabs or 50/50 reasons. Cravings and the want to escape constantly being around a bunch of other miserable people withdrawaling. ugh. So - sorry for the essay - A lot of your alls comments are super engaging and get me thinking. So thanks! wish you the best man and I truly believe you can do it if you approach it with positivity and bravery. Hope this helps! -b.harm
Right Hey dude. Very profound what you just said learning in session. About the time you need to take a call and ask me. Or if you have to have an operation. Very good bro. Scary Ah?I am hooked! About an hour today! 4 doses. Don't even feel the stuff anymore. But still look forward to each dose. Like being home alone. Not dealing with people and their crazy masks Got a lot of people still wear. Ha.
Yeah, my motivation for quitting, besides waking up like an unmotivated zombie, is that if the global economy tanks and I can't get me kratom powder or shots any more, then I'll be withdrawing during SHTF, lol
@@stopspyingonme9210 Well, I figure instead of trying to stockpile kilos of power, just better to start tapering, then quitting. 8 years has been long enough for me. Don't need to be pacing around the room swinging my arms and legs around like a flipping junkie if things pop off.
Started long taper in July at well over 30g a day…Currently at 5.5 a day…Been dropping .5 every other day….Hasn’t been too bad but definitely starting to feel it the lower I go. Wish me luck. Sunday will be down to 5g….With that said I’ve WD plenty of times from much harder things…So we shall see
best of luck my friend. For what it's worth - look into something called agmatine sulfate. I actually just started reading up on it a day or two ago and it seems like its really good for adjusting tolerance and getting through PAWS. Some people have reported that they split their dosage in half with the help of it. -b.harm
@@ricknowak4582 No, when I posted this I was tapering down from like 40g a day + extracts…I just happened to be down to 5.5 when I made the post. With that said I tapered all the way down to like 1g and quit. That was about 10 days ago I quit and haven’t touched it since….Didn’t experience very much WD at all doing the taper method.
@@jimbof20able But James, for an ethic like me if I start tapering down I will probably end up doing more! So I think the only way for me to do it is to go cold turkey. Although tapering sounds the best way I don't think I could do it.
@@ricknowak4582 Bro I never ever thought I could either, I’m just not that type. Everything else (opiates, subs etc) I ever quit I did cold Turkey….but I got to a point a couple months ago I was done, shit was making me miserable. And some how I stayed disciplined. And honestly once you get a few days in and you start to notice some progress yet you feel fine. Then mentally you are proud and don’t want to ruin that. I can give you a quick breakdown how I did it, I didn’t even know where to start because I never kept track on how much I took plus was taking a bunch of extracts. So started w 30gs ( I did 10g when I woke up, 5g at 10, 5g at 2pm, 5g at 6pm and 5g at bed)….I did it with capsules and all I did was basically take 1 capsule (.5) away from a dose every other day. So my first drop I did 10g at wake,5 at 10, 5 at 2, 4.5g at 6 and 5g at bed time…next one I did 9.5 at wake, 5g at 10,2, 4.5 at 6 and 5 at bed. And so on and so on….Spreading it out to 5 doses throughout the day every 4 hours made it pretty easy. I’m telling you the hardest part is getting started and realizing you’re not even noticing the drop. Hope all this made sense lol. Feel free to ask any questions.
it's so bad. I always say this - but - if there was a scenario where you could pick 1 of 3 things - 1. depression 2. anxiety or 3. boredom. I'd pick depression or anxiety - because then you atleast FEEL something in a weird self-romantic way. The anhedonia and boredom is murderous. At some points I was just sitting there almost counting seconds thinking "day ... please just end. I want to go to sleep and skip to the next one" but trust me - when you start feeling the hopeless anhedonia fading - it's miraculous. It was easily my favorite part of quitting. And day by day - you become yourself again. I talked a lot about the negative aspects of K withdrawal in this video - but there are so many positives - and trust me - it's IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it when you're going through withdrawal - but it WILL COME!!!!! thanks for the comment - hope you stick around !
Absolutely brother, thanks for the feedback. Btw i am on suboxone at the moment ill forever be trying to quit ill never give up trying. Ive been on kratom before. I actually quit suboxone with kratom, but my addiction got the best of me. I was doing 50 60 70g a day. I went back to suboxone i couldnt handle taking that much. Sometimes i feel like a hopeless addict. Ive been through all the treatment before yada yada. Ive finally grown up a little and would like to be clean of everything. Now im just a rambling man, but feels good to get it out. Thanks brotha.
Same boat as you. It's miserable, especially if you have to function daily. I'm fighting through a fast taper. It's not as smooth as id like it to be but it's happening. Stay strong and stay committed.
Wow I can tell you really put alot of work into this video I was stunned to look up at the sub count and see it not even 1,000 subs that's insane. Keep working man you're channel is going to blow no doubt. And to answer you queston on the worst withdrawal symptom to me, would be the electricified lsd like feeling that serges through your nervous system if you could consider that a symptom as it may be a factor of a variety of symptoms making that feeling I'm no doctor so idk
wow that,s the first time someone explained the exact thing i suffer with its like an electrical shock starts in my core and comes out my shoulders brutal!!!!!!
@@brucemunro3342 yeah to me withdrawal feels very different from the flu I always hear people say it's like the flu I get these very weird symptoms. Idk what's worse the "electrical feelin", or not being able to sleep at all. I would have to say sleep is the worst symptom actually that's another reason it's not like the flu I can atleast take naps when I have the flu.
Worst symptom for me is not being able to sleep bc of the leg and spine pains. Slept 8 hours in the first 72 hours And it's so bad it absolutely makes you want to drive to the store and get Kratom to end the suffering
@@v3nOmgr3aSy nope not gonna lie I gave in and regret whole heartedly, but i did start tapering so I plan on doing capsules only now, 6 week taper. 6,6,6,6 first week then 5,5,5,5 and so on until just 4 pills a day so it’ll cut down my withdraws by a ton
I am nearing the end of a slow taper. This video makes me want to jump off but everytime i do that i relapse so im sticking to the taper but this video got me excited
Exercise, high doses of vitamin c, and forcing yourself to wake up early and not nap or lay in bed all day, just force yourself to move, which makes it so u are so fatigued at night and able to sleep. This made my detox so much more tolerable. I was on methadone for 9 years and made it through that long, drawn out, intense detox by doing these things. Any opiate detox including kratom will be so much more tolerable if u force yourself to do these things and give your body the serotonin and dopamine hits that it needs to push through the current struggle your body is enduring. Low dose benzo for the first week, gabapentin and magnesium at night for restless legs,clonodine every 6 hours to lower blood pressure and help with anxiety and sleep, up no later than 7am every day, no naps, tons of water, and a good vitamin b complex. Your primary should have no problem prescribing u gabapentin and clonodine if u are honest and letting them know your goal and that u are trying to come off something.
I have quit kratom 3 times. The first 2 were cold turkey. Luckily no insomnia all I wanted to do was sleep and felt like I had flu for 4ish days. Then I tapered for 2 weeks and basically had 0 noticable symptoms.
that's awesome. To be honest for a second - I tend to get comments similar to this once in awhile - and I'm always curious as to whether the persons being honest - and if they are - I'm semi jealous because my withdrawal was terrible lmao. The "3 days of flu" theory that floated around message boards in the mid 2010's lead a lot of people to falsely get into something that they bit off more than they can chew. Talking about kratom withdrawal - also - makes me nervous - because I believe every drug should be fully legal and accessible. The fact that American's fought back and beat the DEA was one of the most victorious times I can personally remember in my short life that have anything to do with activism/liberty. When I get these comments (and i may be wrong) - I always suspect that the commenter is annoyed that withdrawal is discussed online - out of fear that kratom will be made illegal. And that fear is absolutely valid. So - I kinda regret not voicing my opinion on how it should NEVER be scheduled in this video. That's one part I forgot. Dang. Anyways - appreciate the comment - and glad you had a smooth journey. -b.harm
@@brandonharmonti9242 I definitely wont hold back on telling people that kratom is very addictive and the withdrawals are horrible. I could have went deeper when I said flu for 4ish days in comment. Those 4ish days were brutal and basically kept me in bed and bathroom prison. The taper method on the third jump off for me though was a pretty smooth.
@@FloridaManChowder Richardson can you please tell me how much K you are taking? I am very curious, Bro. I take 4 doses at around 6 g per. So almost a ounce A-day.Am I looking for a serious withdrawal? Only a couple of times I experienced some withdrawals.... before my dosing. Terrible shaking! Tremor like shaking! In the car on expressway I couldn't control myself it was extremely .... Terrifying! I was a heavy opioid user back in the day and I never .... never had withdrawals like THAT coming on before I got my...." hit!" How bout you, bro? Please um explain more.
I find that I don't care if you ....run all day long and try to sleep at night you cannot! Hot showers Sauna , steambath, swimming .....nothing works! It will make you feel better during the exercises but eventually when you stop you still need to go through the withdrawal. Unfortunately. This, my friend is... FACT!
@@ricknowak4582 I was never near that heavy of a user. Maybe at most 15 grams a day but withdrawals were still pretty bad. I recommend a taper. For 2 or 3 weeks getting as low as you can. There are lots of taper videos and is best using powder.
RN here. Gabapentin is the most common med prescribed for neuropthic pain. Many people with diabetes take it. It is not known to be addictive which is why doctors are more likely to prescribe it. It should not be hard to get from a PCP. They may also prescribe Trazadone which is a tricyclic antidepressant.and commonly prescribed for sleep. Those should be easy to get. Benzodiazepines are anxiolytics. If you have anxiety they may possibly give it to you. Otherwise, probably not. If you’re having nausea/vomiting, ask for zofran. Non habit forming and effective.
I don't want to quit kratom it's the only thing that numbs me enough to get through all the BS life is giving me....Crappy 9-5 and drama...emotions bad feelings. Not ready to face all the BS until I can afford to invest in my own business and am financially stable.
I understand that, been there too many times. All I can say is when you do quit, all those negative emotions will hit you like a ton of bricks for maybe 1 month or 1.5 months every day straight. Once you get stuff sorted out, it's still gonna be just as bad. If you can get a window of that amount of time, at least 1 week off work, take it. I feel like I've been reborn, I'm not overstating it when I say it was the best decision I've made in my life to quit
gotta agree with Andrew on this one mate. I know exactly how you feel - I've been there myself. We trick ourselves into thinking that kratom is the ultimate 'crutch' that helps our lives tremendously. But - and like ALL drugs - it's a lie. They will ALWAYS eventually turn on you after the honeymoon phase. When I started in 2016 I remember blindly believing that it had zero negative effects on health - but now? i'm reading more and more how bad it is for health and kidneys - and your hair starts falling out (I have patches of hair missing but every time I quit my hair fully grows back) So.. it's up to you brother. and if you decide to stay on it? that's your prerogative. Some people get great benefits from kratom. So - if you do ever plan on quitting - set a date. If not - I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm a libertarian and put heavy emphasis on my belief in personal responsibility and individualism. So - If ya wanna stay on it - more power to ya brother. if it makes you happy - I'd say keep going at it. -b.harm
Hi Brandon, thank you so much for this video. I’m on day 3 currently and you’ve made me laugh a lot and feel so much better. You are hilarious and really enjoyable to listen to.
I switched to stem and vein only and it was way easier to reduce dose. Now at 6g a day. There was times when i was up to atleast 20g of straight kratom no stem...there is something bout stem that makes withdrawl and needed to dose more way less. I highly recommend. Im aiming to just do kratom every 3rd day. 48 hrs between doses is the key. Half life.
Where do you source your Kratom stem and vien only? I take 5-6g 4 times a day and have been for the last 8-9 years. It's time I get off and get my life back.
It's amazing how he described everything to a T. I'm on day 5 and it's bad. But literally he knows his shit. I would love to talk to you on the phone or email. I need so much help.
Very good and funny. Love Carl Pilkinton, If you haven't seen idiot a broad it's a must, there is two seasons with Carl alone and one with Carl and a midget. You don't talk about tapering. Is it possible to do a half years taper that will make you quit K with out any pain ?
ive WD BAD from all sorts of potent opiates and im telling you the worst part of WDing is from the insomnia. i can deal with everything else! nothing has ever bothered me more than the insomnia! and thats the thing that really starts to break me down! it messes with your mood with your confidence, you start to really have some low moments! suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety. its horrible. every time ive WD i always had the worst of it come at night once i get up from my bed in the morning i feel so much better! honestly sleeping pills can make WD much worse! ive never had good come from taking sleeping pills. with kratom all you have to do to avoid WDs is taper. i really dont get much WDs from kratom especially if i taper. you could totally taper off of kratom in a week and im telling you by the end of the week if you do a taper your good! ive went from 50grams a day all the way down to just 8 grams and then to 6 grams. and then i stopped taking it in the morning and only dosed 4gs at night and a couple days taking it only at night your FREE from WDs. ive done this a total of 6 times and each time ive kept the regiment and its worked
Could you be more specific please man? like how many days did you drop everyday from say 15gpd cause that is where i am at now? Please man i need to taper fast cause there are people pushing me to quit Ct This week or early next week and i don't have time for a long taper? Please man first time doing a ct from anything cause i always tapered.
@@ghostofme7277 15gpd is really low and i assume it will be much easier for you then it was for me i was taking 40-50gpd at the time i started! you could taper in as little as 5 days to 10 days. make yourself a plan. lets start with day 1. on day one start by only taking 13gpd. do that for 2 days. on day 3 lower it to 10gpd, stay there for also 2 days, on day 5 lower it to 8gpdand stay there for another 2 day. on day 7 lower it to 6gpd. when you get here to only 6gpd im telling you becomes so easy. and at this point you can start to skip 1 dose. it may seem hard to do this and you might get discomfort and lethargic but keep your doses for the most important times of the day like in the morning and at night right before bed. the most important dose of the day for me while tapering was the night time dose so i skipped the middle of the dose. do ths also for 2-3 days and on day 9-10 skip the morning dose or you can choose to lower your doses 4gpd. i suggest you keep the night time dose for sure thos because insomnia will destroy your plan. you can opt to take 50mg of benadryl (which helped me a lot for sleep) when you get to 4gpd you could most likely stop all together with very minimal WDs. when you get to the point of only taking the night time dose it will be so f'n easy to stop. at this point i didnt even have 1 WD. this is just my example of what i would do. you can change it if you want to make it more rapid taper or a slower one. i always opt for the slower taper just because your body will become a costumed to lower gpd with less discomfort. what i noticed is that the first day-2days of dropping your dose will have some discomfort but after that day your body gets use to only taking that tapered dose. just remeber that while you get a little discomfort it wont last forever and you will have your nighttime dose to give you some much needed comfort and some rejuvenating sleep. it is so mcuh easier to taper then it is to quit cold turkey
You are a very talented speaker. I came to this video because I was worried it is becoming a problem. You gave me the courage...and great tips to quit. Thank you
So, you inspired me to start making videos again. It really helped when I did. I mentioned you in my video. You and Gabe McCall have made me want to document my recovery again. I mentioned you in my video.
Quitting Kratom is relatively easy. Staying off is hard. Made it like 18 days before I got bored and picked some up. I have all the supplements and about 100g of hirsuta I’m gonna use till it runs out in a week or so and hopefully get away with no wd. I am a weed guy so I’ll smoke myself to sleep if need be.
Rehab doesn’t need repeat customers. There’s enough addicts out there to keep them going. Plus 70-80 % of addicts in rehab will relapse. My relapse was weed and kratom. Got off the dope and everything just to build up a kratom addiction a year after rehab. There was actually a guy in rehab there for kratom. He was taking 100g a day he said . Currently tapering and switching strainso kick it.
Bruh incidentally I’ve been listening to that Ricky Gervais podcast the past two weeks and this week I decided to quit; tapering now. Karl Dilkington is amazing. I’ve quit a few times and can attest to much of what you’ve said. Great vids and I relate to your music stuff as well.
I’m finally off Kratom wee! Ahh that’s why I had those disgusting disturbing nightmares… like the one about my ex who is grows marijuana and we were on the road staying in this motel and we get a bang bang bang on the door in the middle of the night and find it to be the authorities and he tells me he like tore the lock of the door or something and redid it so no one could bust in, then him telling me that he’s probably going to get locked up and me just being stranded there thousands of miles away from home meanwhile he looks like he’s on some sort of drug that really messed him up….Or the one where this random girl had defecated buckets worth of sh*t
Amazing video. I really liked this. I’ve been watching several of your vids. You seem almost tolerable as a person. I’m kidding. I dig your personality and perspectives and humor. Keep it up man. You never know where this could go.
For me the worst was anxiety attacks and restless leg. But thise were part of the reason i started taking kratom. The withdrawal intensifies the symptoms
That is wild and lucky you did not get anxiety as I find kratom anxiety worse than any other opiate and I have have kicked the worst of the worst such as zenes, fent analogues, RC opiates, etc all IV. Kratom has me yelling into pillows with my bones itching with anxiety. Etizolam helps for sure and it is cheap AF online.
The nightmares are no joke. Last night I had a dream I was reliving my m*rder on repeat. Like a game, each time it restarted I would try to do something new to change the outcome, but it always ended the same.
I ended up getting the supplement NAC. Game changer for anxiety. The FDA was trying to ban it during COVID, but Amazon just brought it back. I don't understand the complete mechanism of why it works for anxiety, but I guess the ER uses it for acetaminophen poisoning
The worst thing about drugs is withdrawing. Even worse when you know you are and know you can fix it with a drug. For example if I was withdrawing on something and never experienced it before, I’d just think I got the flu. But knowing is the worst part.
Hey to anybody thay enjoyed this video I want to recommend his "how I became an addict" series. He's got 5 parts and he really can tell a story like no other youtuber.
I ate very high doses of yellow sumatra for many years,, after developing sum very persistent gut problems that doctors are too stupid or dont care enuff to help with. I decided to take matters into my own hands. I stopped taking kratom and started takin probiotics and eating differently along with lots of exercise. Its been about at least a year since I quit and Im still healing from it. kratom = suffering
The I cant believe its not butter part made made me cry laughing hahaha . Also i think your theory that men feel unfulfilled because they are not doing manly things is spot on.
Be careful with Gabapentin. I'm sober off of alcohol for 4 years. In early recovery this time around, I was prescribed Gabapentin to help with the symptoms of alcohol withdrawal. I did not take rhe Gabapentin as prescribed, and got myself to a point where I would have uncontrollable shakes/tremors. Getting off of Gabapentin was really terrible, and I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I started taking them.
This guy obviously has a drug issue. Very accurate, and funny. Try setting at home in withdrawal and having Suboxone, Bennzo's, access to any drug whatsoever. And still just pushing through the withdrawal. Currently have Kratom, Suboxone, Benzo's and anything else very close by. I keep fentanyl as far as i can away!
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Hey, do you have a list of all the things you mentioned to help with the withdrawal process? I'll just watch the video again if I need to, but if you have the list handy, that would be awesome.
“Drug addicts are happy for 30 minutes a week and the rest is just misery.” Man, truer words have never been spoken.
Tolerance is a bitch
They are not even truly happy they just feel good! 🙂
True happiness is to know that you are doing the right things even if they are not easy to do often times.
Jesus said:
,,There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving.” (Acts 20:35)
And:
,,Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." (Matthew 5:3)
So to have a good relationship with the true God this is true happiness! 🙂🙏📖🌈☀️🥰
Omg this is so true and soo bloody depressing
Well at least we have 30 minutes more than I can say for the Karen's
For all the smart asses kratom is a plant. but you take big pharmas poisonous toxic drugs. Don’t judge you no better than anyone so come off your high horses! please !!
I am approaching 72 hours of going cold turkey off Kratom and I must say that the past 2 days sucked pretty bad but watching this whole video helped me smile laugh and cry all at the same time thank you bro for taking the time to do this for those who are out there going threw withdrawal. Bless your heart Jesus Christ is KING!☝️👑💯
Hello, let me know how you doing now. The first week is rough, cold, heavy and dark, it is important to be kind to yourself and patience. Take it eazy if you have to (by that I mean take sick days and stay comfortably home). Im on day 9 now and I have to say that yesterday was the first day that I felt energetic and wasnt bombarded with cravings, good day. Today was more neutral/frustrating, but at least I know that good days will eventually happen. And that at least for me was something I could never reach with kratom, that stuff robbed me of emotions.
Hey you're not alone!
How are you doing now?
It is none of my business but I hope you're doing well.
I'm on week 3 right now my body aches last night were fing unexpected and sucked.
Congratulations on your victory, it's time for me to start the journey to freedom town.
How are you doing now?
God bless you too...my friend...
Restless legs is the worst. It’s what causes my insomnia.
You’re a life saver! Appreciate it man. Not looking forward to thrashing around my bed in a pool of my own sweat. Probably won’t be that bad but I’m ready for the worst!
Try tonic water with quinine in it before bed, stuff worked wonders for me for the restless legs! Google it
How is it going? Did you cut it cold? did you use supplements?
That's why I don't see myself able to quit alone at home. I really believe I must admit myself to some sort of treatment center. Away from the K. I really have to be locked up for at least............. 7 days! I need a "jump start". And when I do go to one of these treatment centers I will refuse all medications! Not even something at night to help me sleep! I really believe that you need to get it out of your system in order to start new. Without any help whatsoever. I truly believe that .I'd rather detox in a unit. A "SAFE" umm structural environment. Dig?
@@ricknowak4582 I'll tell you that medications for sleep are a nightmare too if you get addicted to them. My coworker is an alcoholic and also taking some kind of sleep medications. He's dull for 6 hours and he wakes up at 3 or 4 am and he either needs another half of a tablet or a drink. It's scary that alcohol or even sleep meds can become demons.
Magnesium citrate (calm) was the only thing that helped me with rls.
Kratom withdrawals never lasted me more than 3 days and I’d be completely normal on day 4, even after few years if daily use, though my dose was between 3-5 grams 3-4 times a day. The best thing that got me through was top shelf cannabis, sativa especially got rid of my withdrawals to the point that I completely forgot I was in withdrawals for 3 hrs before I started to feel them again. Also I took edibles (with cbd and cbn) black seed oil, phenibut ( be careful phenibut can become addictive if used for long period of time) and indica at night for sleep, all other sleeping herbs I tried barely or didn’t help at all. Gabapentin also helps. Megadosing vitamin c absolutely helped a lot! I took up to 3000 units of it everytime withdrawels were unbearable. Absolutely no stimulants, coffee would make withdrawals much worste! 1hr of direct sunlight also really helped as well as walks but I know it’s really difficult to do any exercise even walking when on withdrawals. Hot baths all day and finally binge watching some interesting anime or tv shows throughout the day made time fly. Hope this helped.
True story I got addicted too phenibut no sleep for 3 days ended up in a crisis center was diagnosed scitzo I'm not just the addiction too phenibut gave me auditory hallucinations...stupid doctors even after telling them like no your something else whatever I'm still fighting it and I'm still not bipolar or any of that...on meds for it making me crazy no lie .
At 27 years old kicking benzos and herion was the worst experience ive had to go through
At 26 I also nearly died from alcohol withdrawal, it was terrifying. Now I'm 4 years sober from alcohol but stuck with kratom. Kratom withdrawal sucks too.
Hey man I don't know if I'll be ready today or tomorrow or next week or next month but I know the ride needs to end somewhere and knowing other folks have risen above the same issues I've dealt with in this most recent arc of my life always makes me feel a little more hopeful. Saved this to my watch later for the time I inevitably jump off and decide to kick
Watching his quit also will help in your journey
There’s no way around it. Time will pass , go through it to lower tolerance or get off. First few days the time drags, but by day 3 it will start to move quicker for you.
@@johnsadler3601 I know that's true, I've been through it a couple times before. My first CT kick lasted probably about a full week before I felt even remotely human again and I've struggled with tapers so it feels like a rock and a hard place but it's going to have to happen eventually
I'm back! And trying to taper. I feel like shit. Mostly just mentally and emotionally right now. Feel cold and alone and like every feeling I should have dealt with in the past few years is all hitting me like a truck. It sucks and I am not even very deep into it yet. Hoping to emerge from this safely
This was me for the past couple of years. Keep putting off getting sober now I’m meeting the consequences of my actions. My life about to fall apart if I don’t get my shit together
Exercise/movement, diet and water are huge! Cold or hot showers too. You have to fill the void and confusion, help the bodies healing process.
Great series.. many will be needing this. Wishing you the best moving forward.
Great video. I just wanted to say as a former heroin and kratom addict myself. It led to hypothyroidism and there's strong connection now to opiate and kratom abuse and thyroid dysfunction. And that is a nightmare in itself navigating the synthroid and the EXTREME anxiety that comes with thyroid! Holy shit lol. Thank you for making this!
I think the mental stuff once you get passed the physical is a lot harder. Gotta have some strong Will power and wanna stay sober. It’s hard. Props to anyone in recovery. You got this!
I’m 3 years sober from a few things.. I still take kratom. But anyone that says it’s easy is a liar. Every day is a battle and sometimes a struggle. You just have to wanna be clean more than you wanna use and feel good for that limited amount of time.
@@Jess_wam I can totally relate to your input decsmama. The problem for me, personally, is that I never truly know if I want to get sober or if I'm subtly tricking myself into walking into something I know I'll fail.
I don't trust myself. Honestly. I don't. I. admittedly, have the eerie ability to charm and con for amusement or personal gain (i try to mainly use it for the good though) but deep down - I con myself more than anyone else.
Whenever I hear a success story where a dude goes to rehab - joins the program - and builds up a successful sober life - I always imagine where his mindset was at when he decided to quit.
This time around I began to feel something similar to that. Creating this channel has made a huge impact on my life and has given me so much drive that it's honestly overwhelming. But - the future is always unknown.
thanks for watching - appreciate ya
-b.harm
@@Jess_wam It is really hard also for the same reason why it can be hard to quit nicotine or alcohol or even weed, quick and effective (short-term) coping mechanism that is easily accessible from legal shops at any time during the week, heck you can even have it delivered to you and dont have to leave the house. You dont have to deal with shady dealers etc.. sometimes I really hate the times that we live in.
I was thinking of getting two sub ozone to take for the first week of kratom withdrawal. I can set pills down no problem so I’m not worried about getting hooked. Would this help the process, I can’t seem to find anyone talking about this idea?!?
@@maxhill6424 subs are way harder then anything else to quit. Its one of the worse things to quit. Kratom is a walk in the park compared to subs
I’m on day 5, with restless legs being the worst symptom for most, I would definitely recommend trying to stay awake. Don’t try and sleep when it’s really acting up. Trying to sleep just makes it pure misery…
I’ve withdrawn from pills and subs multiple times. They are worse but this is no joke!
You’re my hero for getting sober. God knows how many times I’ve tried quitting kratom
U can do it🎉!!!
You can do it!!!! You just have to be sick and tired of being sick and tired and learn to hate the substance you once enjoyed
Hope you are doing well 🙏
This is one of the best videos on quitting Kratom. it gives you all the details, all the ups, all the downs, all the pitfalls all the pain; but it also gives you all the positive that you will receive if you quit, or maybe after 30 or 50 days you’ll feel like a goddamn kid again and yes, forgive me for saying this, but extremely horny. the only thing I have to say about videos like this is don’t watch too many of them and you start to focus on the negative when you get all neurotic and crazy. Just watch them once and walk away with so much valuable quitting advice. Thank you dude!
Micro dosing magic mushrooms has helped me big time gives you energy and focus look into it
Same
One neat trick I've realized is that the airborne tablets work great for withdrawal symptoms. They're high in Vitamin C, A, and E. I had been getting some cold like symptoms: sore throat, coughing, stuffy nose. I've been getting a lot of relief shortly after consuming one.
Never did it more than 4 days a week, and would always mix and match the days I’d take it, so I think that really saved my ass, although the dose got super high over the year. Day 2-3 I had physical wd, since day 4 it’s been that anodea or whatever you said. Really does make every single second seem to drag on, you really are just waiting to get through the days. By far is the hardest part about this. Currently on day 7 so I’m still not out of the woods at all. On a RUclips binge right now just to try and check out for a second because I can’t stand to try and do anything that puts me in the moment, the moment sucks. Weed helps a little bit but only so much, and you’re right there’s something strange with exercise, don’t know exactly what feels better but it makes me feel just a little less like a piece of shit, which helps. This video has been the most enjoyable thing for me today, helps to feel understood like this. Thanks m8
EDIT: 3 weeks in, mentally feel way better now. I’m not going to lie and say I found all this hidden energy..I’ll even be brutally honest and say life is boring, but it always was. Really glad to be out of the first 2 weeks..mentally it was hell.
Hang in there. It's hard I'm sure. but it's better than the alternative.
Congratulations keep it up
I don’t know how I missed this video but I’m watching it now…I have heard it’s easy to fall into the well it’s a lot harder to climb out as a metaphor for addiction and sobriety…I am currently trying to climb out of the well half way there God willing I will get there eventually ✨
Are you on kratom? 🙂
@@loveistheanswer5924 not anymore 25 days off
@@bluestar7757how are you doing? I'm in the process of quitting now.
Did you get your RUclips handle from the Warriors books? Just asking because my daughter loves those books. 😺
Day 8 after 5 years serving that ‘Green Demon’! Let my self believe all the bull online about how easy it was to stop. The insomnia is MADDENING! Probably watch 100 withdrawal chronicle video (depressing) … watching yours is the first time I laughed out old in 8 days in think. Thank you!
Currently on day 3 of quitting Kratom watching this video made me feel great I honestly haven’t had any major withdrawals but ofcourse I been taking CALM and AIRBORNE every time I feel myself feeling sluggish, I took Kratom for 3 years straight never took a break was up to 30Gs a day I’m glad I’m doing this detox stay strong everyone you can do this!
I’m in the process of tapering. The tapering is going pretty well… I need to make another jump soon. Waiting for calm to come from Amazon hopefully that will help
@@spfadden082711 should help a lot I’m on week 2 and feel great! Still not completely clean I still feel the cravings there but a lot more controllable than the first week, good luck bro
@@ssiliezar88 that’s awesome. It’s gonna take time. I have been using this crap for 3 years or so. I got back surgery and didn’t want to take the meds so I did some research and heard great things about kratom. Well it backfired haha
What is CALM and AIRBORNE mind I ask?
Today was day one for me. God dammit it was the longest day of my life. My experience has been restless leg and boredom. Feeling uncomfortable in my skin and my skin sweats and is cold. Very very uncomfortable. I’m coming from very high dosages throughout the day. I’m starting this journey and no one knows I even took kratom except for one person. I told him and told him I need him now more than ever. It was funny. One day I just thought to myself, I got a fuckin problem. Never had I ever though that before. But the last year something hasn’t been right with myself. Idk man. I’m scared. I’ve been through hell in my lifetime, and the truth is the fear I have of withdrawing is extreme for me. I’d happily go back overseas to avoid it if I could. I’m not one to be afraid of pain or dying, really anything, but this, this terrifies me. If you are starting this journey or have went through it. Let me know. Keep in touch. I think kratom can be very beneficial in moderation, unfortunately some of us take it overboard. Wish you guys all the best. Remember, your the power here. Overcome. Thank you for the video brother. I and many other appreciate it more than we can explain
How are you doing now?
I relate to you a lot with this "something is off".....have you been tested for ADHD? I think a lot of drug addict have undiagnosed ADHD and have been self medicating their whole life.
This is the best and truest video on withdrawal I have ever seen, I could relate to everything you said, it's the restless leg syndrome that really sends me nutty and the cold showers really do help if you can pluck up the bottle to step under it. Thanks mate 👍
Is there anything you took to help that or what?
Existential boredom from WD is what most commonly makes me relapse, it is so rough.. nothing feels worth a while and time is frustrating like you said! and the chills nonstop are probably the worst for me, thankfully it subsides only after like 4 days. Insomnia can be a nightmare, but honestly if I manage to sleep for 4 hours I feel MUCH more "rested" than sleeping 10 hours on a kratom nod-off slump. It is definitely worth the pain to cleanse your body from kratom brother! No matter what justification someone might have for keep using kratom, it is weight on your body no doubt. Not as a long term solution anyway... Staying sober is the best teacher of life, remember that!
Also man the lower back pain everytime I laid down for more than 30 minutes, burning tense pain like 7.5/10. I had the same lower back pain when I had covid.
I dont want to say that kratom is "bad" but it is the kind of substance that will very likely make you want to increase your doses and keep taking it, even if it doesnt feel good anymore. For some people it traps them and this problem cannot be ignored imo. But yeah take good care about your body and mind, that is the most important, whether you use or not use.
yup like nothing you did is fun anymore without it.
Well said. This is the hardest part for me as well. You just wanna go to sleep and wake up in a few weeks when things are more normal
I can relate to this so hard. There was some bullshiter on youtube that says. OH kratom WD is for pussies. You don't have something to compare to that. Fucking tired of people bullshiting about kratom. Like they want only the good side of kratom and with drugs in general, there is always the other side of the coin.
But YOU spoke the truth and amen to that.
Yes the back pain on kratom withdrawals were SO BAD!
Really nice text! Are you off the kratom?
I am unfortunately still on it and it completely takes my energy away! Also it makes me really lethargic, indifferent/numb and DEPRESSED! 😔😪
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I so appreciate you sharing all this dude. I’m tapering down right now. Getting there.
I discovered your channel like a week ago, and I love it so much. Gonna get off kratom soon and now I’m planning to vlog it once I start.
I’m nowhere as good at editing as you, but ima do it.
I’m on day 7 and it’s been hell. Yesterday was the worst, I had to smoke weed cos my legs hurt so bad I couldn’t stand it. I don’t like weed but I had things to do. I’m so exhausted but I’ll just sleep an hour and wake up feeling shit. I have some gabapentin but I don’t really want to get addicted to that, but idk I had to take some of my mother’s Xanax cos I had so much anxiety. But the worst symptom is the hopelessness. I’ve had insomnia my whole life so it’s bad, but the body aches and hopelessness is the worst withdrawals for me.
I’m coming off now. Only tried it for about 41/2 days but you DO FEEL THE WITHDRAWAL even with that short of time. I didn’t like the feeling that well. Feeling like I was a slave to a capsule,trying to keep up with how many,how much. It all was just too much for me. All I can say is you can get out. You are strong enough to do it. Do not give up on yourself. God is there for you. Talk to Him.
Dicky Eklund rocking the advice! You so remind me of Christian Bale playing him in The Fighter.
Good movie. I watch it once a year now.
Your rant on how people can do so much in their day while you have barely any energy is so real. Thats why i got hooked on the Kratom in the first place, i was mad that i was always fatigued. Well the only think Kratom made me was wasting time high. I regret it, instead i should have go visit my doctor and make a blood scan and supplement myself with vitamins.
Laughed out loud quite a bit during the video. Good stuff man
Brandon, your videos are helpful. You remind me of myself in a lot of ways. I was disheartened to see you haven't been uploading for almost a year. Hope you are doing well and thank you for putting yourself out there for us.
As a woman and an over 20 year addict brain, we just have a higher pain tolerance, but I can guarantee you the withdrawal is just as bad. I had a boyfriend who is able to deal with the withdrawal like a champ and I was so jealous because I just couldn’t do it, so I think it depends on the person, not the gender. I have a very strong mind and this is one thing that has beaten me every time.
I dont agree with that. Its not even close. When I had to quit pain killers that was the hardest thing I ever did. Kratom is closer to coffee and thats just a fact. Working with kratom daily and with all sorts of people nobody has ever told me stopping kratom is as hard as quitting opiates are heroin. The biggest problem is people make it a bad thing. When you fill guilty about doing something it makes it harder to quit and you will notice withdraw more. Just stay busy and eat better and take vitamins especially vitamin d3 which is a huge one that most people need more of
I 1000% agree with you. I experience the same thing
Anyone ever noticed any like, head pressure or lightheadedness that lingers around? When trying to quit..
Thank you for your videos. They help so much along with the quittingkratom subreddit. I’m doing it day by day. Still tapering but getting there.
Hey man, you have a way about you that really reaches people in the situation we have all gotten ourselves into. There are more pro shot videos on the topic but none are as near honest and representative of the detox process as yours. I've been there and I know, and all of this is totally familiar. You are helping a lot of people. Good job bro.
Good video … the hardest part for me was trying to be productive at work. When I first quit, I took a week off work which helped a lot. The issue I had was while I was going through weeks of PAWS, I was functioning but had zero motivation and just felt like ass. While feeling this way, it’s so hard just going to work for 8-10 hours a day and was even harder being productive.
Yes!!!
Yes I almost stay taking kratom because I feel like co workers will notice I’m different without it. I have to kick this but can’t get myself to do it
@@maxhill6424 ,.. without it, just being able to go to work is hard but being productive at work is really really hard. I understand believe me. My best advice is have a plan in advance to quit. Pick a date when you can take a week or more off work or when you have vacation time. The day you stop, just stay in bed for the first 5 days and just tell people you have the flu. Since you will most likely have flu like symptoms for a few days, nobody will think twice. After 5-7 days, you should start feeling a little better each day that passes. After about 10-14 days in total, you should be able to function normally (work, gym, etc) but you’re gonna still feel a bit off and depressed and for a bit.
It sucks dude, I’m not gonna lie. But when the negative feelings start going away, happiness returns and you start feeling like yourself again, it’s like wow. It just takes time with no relapse otherwise you gotta deal with misery of withdrawals all over again.
@@maxhill6424 .. and yes, people will probably notice you’re a bit different. You’ll just seem a bit quiet, and not as social. Just say you’re on a new diet or taking supplements and it’s messing with you. Or say a family member has health issues and it’s stressing you out.
@@ajbucks yeah I’m getting my supplements ready now I will start hydrating tomorrow. I lost my job the other day so I’m between jobs. I plan on taking this week off and powering through this. I have tried once before and my withdrawals are so bad almost hallucinating. I don’t take more than a half ounce 250 grams last me about two weeks but damnit I have to quit while my kids are still young. Bro I knew it was coming out of my because I looked like I was shitting compacted seaweed turds. I made it 36 hours and caved in.
I have all these supplements I want to get but don’t want to overload.
This is the only video i have ever seen of yours .I agree with so much with what you said... Im quitting the harder stuff using kratom and low low dose subs again finally . Essentially after hitting rock bottom without getting arrested lmao .. About 6 days today... still feeling bad cause of how much I was doing, been on and off for 12 years just real time for me to grow , like you said it's time for me to pay the piper thumbs 👍.. On a walk right now , The long video helped me out thanks
Bro great video! I hope you're still going with your channel cause it seems you have a niche here and your personality makes it fun to watch. I currently take Kratom and am looking to come off also which is why I stumbled across your video but anyway, good stuff dude. Informative but in an entertaining way
What a video! Awesome stuff on here. I jumped ship and did the cold turkey thing in July of this year and the struggle was real for 30 days. I thought that I’d NEVER be without a substance of sorts. I counted myself fully clean because I stopped the hard stuff years ago but k had its claws on me. I needed it to function and that there is a big problem. I started thinking, “what if one day I need to be put under for some crazy surgery but they can’t figure out a dose because of my tolerance on this stuff?” “How will I ever get a colonoscopy when I’m older if I can’t go 4-5 hours without this stuff but you have to fast for two days before this type of procedure? Also, how will I clean out my system in two days when k clogs me up?” I mean, these were serious questions bogging me down during my use. I just knew I couldn’t continue because the cons were outweighing the pros. If k works for you and you see benefits to your use then kudos to you. I’m not one to preach and tell peeps there’s only one way. For me, it was time and I wake up and go to sleep without the k cloud over me. A new “normal” is attainable but you have to work at finding out what that is. Find the warrior spirit within you and venture into the forest of self discovery. You might be pleasantly surprised at what you find.
"“what if one day I need to be put under for some crazy surgery but they can’t figure out a dose because of my tolerance on this stuff?"
That's a CONSTANT fear of mine as well - and it's also the main reason I'll never take an antidepressant or an anti psychotic - or anything like that. I won't take ANYTHING that causes 9 months to two years of withdrawal. There's always a real possibility that eventually we'll get separated from our precious kratom and will have to experience whatever the thing is stone cold sober and in absolute misery.
For me - I worry about SHTF (SH** hits the fan) and being that America is on the verge of total collapse and a potential civil war (call me crazy but i genuinely believe that could happen) - It becomes something to definitely consider cautiously.
I know so many people on benzos - and I always subtly ask them - "what if some apocalyptic walking dead type sh** happens and you have to live in the woods?" and the fear on their face becomes immediately evident and palpable.
And YES - every drug eventually reveals its true nature - a liar. Every drug that makes you happy during the honey moon phase will eventually turn on you and chip away at bits of your soul. Especially suboxone. If you go on reddit and read about people that are considering quitting suboxone? they all sound like an emotionless wreck.
"A new “normal” is attainable but you have to work at finding out what that is. "
One thing I forgot to mention - (and i'm deeply considering making a quitting kratom guide pt. 2) is the fact that you have to change your whole life - which is deeply uncomfortable and difficult. For me? RUclips is a huge trigger. I waste so much time on this dumb site and it persistently makes me cynical and depressed. That's one of the reasons rehab is so recommendable is because you're in a new environment - seperated from the outside world - and re-learn to live your life from scratch. It sounds farfetched - (because i've never been to a rehab that had solely kratom addicts) but I'm beginning to believe that rehab is one of the best ways to approach ANY withdrawal (and trust me - i personally can't do it - I've ran out of every rehab I've ever been to after a week. Mainly due to my crippling social anxiety issues - but i still always relapse so I always leave rehabs or 50/50 reasons. Cravings and the want to escape constantly being around a bunch of other miserable people withdrawaling. ugh.
So - sorry for the essay - A lot of your alls comments are super engaging and get me thinking.
So thanks! wish you the best man and I truly believe you can do it if you approach it with positivity and bravery.
Hope this helps!
-b.harm
Right Hey dude. Very profound what you just said learning in session. About the time you need to take a call and ask me. Or if you have to have an operation. Very good bro. Scary Ah?I am hooked! About an hour today! 4 doses. Don't even feel the stuff anymore. But still look forward to each dose. Like being home alone. Not dealing with people and their crazy masks Got a lot of people still wear. Ha.
Yeah, my motivation for quitting, besides waking up like an unmotivated zombie, is that if the global economy tanks and I can't get me kratom powder or shots any more, then I'll be withdrawing during SHTF, lol
@@homevalueglass3809 at that point I wouldn’t care.
@@stopspyingonme9210 Well, I figure instead of trying to stockpile kilos of power, just better to start tapering, then quitting. 8 years has been long enough for me. Don't need to be pacing around the room swinging my arms and legs around like a flipping junkie if things pop off.
Started long taper in July at well over 30g a day…Currently at 5.5 a day…Been dropping .5 every other day….Hasn’t been too bad but definitely starting to feel it the lower I go. Wish me luck. Sunday will be down to 5g….With that said I’ve WD plenty of times from much harder things…So we shall see
best of luck my friend. For what it's worth - look into something called agmatine sulfate. I actually just started reading up on it a day or two ago and it seems like its really good for adjusting tolerance and getting through PAWS. Some people have reported that they split their dosage in half with the help of it.
-b.harm
You have withdrawals taken 5.5 dose A-day?!! Unbelievable, bro. One 5.5 you're having withdrawals. Is that right?
@@ricknowak4582 No, when I posted this I was tapering down from like 40g a day + extracts…I just happened to be down to 5.5 when I made the post. With that said I tapered all the way down to like 1g and quit. That was about 10 days ago I quit and haven’t touched it since….Didn’t experience very much WD at all doing the taper method.
@@jimbof20able But James, for an ethic like me if I start tapering down I will probably end up doing more! So I think the only way for me to do it is to go cold turkey. Although tapering sounds the best way I don't think I could do it.
@@ricknowak4582 Bro I never ever thought I could either, I’m just not that type. Everything else (opiates, subs etc) I ever quit I did cold Turkey….but I got to a point a couple months ago I was done, shit was making me miserable. And some how I stayed disciplined. And honestly once you get a few days in and you start to notice some progress yet you feel fine. Then mentally you are proud and don’t want to ruin that. I can give you a quick breakdown how I did it, I didn’t even know where to start because I never kept track on how much I took plus was taking a bunch of extracts. So started w 30gs ( I did 10g when I woke up, 5g at 10, 5g at 2pm, 5g at 6pm and 5g at bed)….I did it with capsules and all I did was basically take 1 capsule (.5) away from a dose every other day. So my first drop I did 10g at wake,5 at 10, 5 at 2, 4.5g at 6 and 5g at bed time…next one I did 9.5 at wake, 5g at 10,2, 4.5 at 6 and 5 at bed. And so on and so on….Spreading it out to 5 doses throughout the day every 4 hours made it pretty easy. I’m telling you the hardest part is getting started and realizing you’re not even noticing the drop. Hope all this made sense lol. Feel free to ask any questions.
Worst symptom the hopless feeling.
it's so bad. I always say this - but - if there was a scenario where you could pick 1 of 3 things - 1. depression 2. anxiety or 3. boredom. I'd pick depression or anxiety - because then you atleast FEEL something in a weird self-romantic way.
The anhedonia and boredom is murderous. At some points I was just sitting there almost counting seconds thinking "day ... please just end. I want to go to sleep and skip to the next one"
but trust me - when you start feeling the hopeless anhedonia fading - it's miraculous. It was easily my favorite part of quitting. And day by day - you become yourself again.
I talked a lot about the negative aspects of K withdrawal in this video - but there are so many positives - and trust me - it's IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it when you're going through withdrawal - but it WILL COME!!!!!
thanks for the comment - hope you stick around !
Absolutely brother, thanks for the feedback. Btw i am on suboxone at the moment ill forever be trying to quit ill never give up trying. Ive been on kratom before. I actually quit suboxone with kratom, but my addiction got the best of me. I was doing 50 60 70g a day. I went back to suboxone i couldnt handle taking that much. Sometimes i feel like a hopeless addict. Ive been through all the treatment before yada yada. Ive finally grown up a little and would like to be clean of everything. Now im just a rambling man, but feels good to get it out. Thanks brotha.
About to attempt my 40th time to quit I think. I made 5 days last month but the insomnia was too much. I hate feeling so weak.
everyone has been there. 40 50 100x It's better to quit 1000x than not quit at all. you can do it.
Same boat as you. It's miserable, especially if you have to function daily. I'm fighting through a fast taper. It's not as smooth as id like it to be but it's happening. Stay strong and stay committed.
@@dieselpower4052 how'd you do??
Trazodone 50MG. He does mention it, but I don’t hear it mentioned enough.
Wow I can tell you really put alot of work into this video I was stunned to look up at the sub count and see it not even 1,000 subs that's insane. Keep working man you're channel is going to blow no doubt. And to answer you queston on the worst withdrawal symptom to me, would be the electricified lsd like feeling that serges through your nervous system if you could consider that a symptom as it may be a factor of a variety of symptoms making that feeling I'm no doctor so idk
wow that,s the first time someone explained the exact thing i suffer with its like an electrical shock starts in my core and comes out my shoulders brutal!!!!!!
@@brucemunro3342 yeah to me withdrawal feels very different from the flu I always hear people say it's like the flu I get these very weird symptoms. Idk what's worse the "electrical feelin", or not being able to sleep at all. I would have to say sleep is the worst symptom actually that's another reason it's not like the flu I can atleast take naps when I have the flu.
Worst symptom for me is not being able to sleep bc of the leg and spine pains. Slept 8 hours in the first 72 hours And it's so bad it absolutely makes you want to drive to the store and get Kratom to end the suffering
Hope your still going strong my dude I’m on day 7
@@v3nOmgr3aSy nope not gonna lie I gave in and regret whole heartedly, but i did start tapering so I plan on doing capsules only now, 6 week taper. 6,6,6,6 first week then 5,5,5,5 and so on until just 4 pills a day so it’ll cut down my withdraws by a ton
@@tdunn779 bro...try showering...it helps a lot...when the withdrawal kicks in...take a cold shower...
@@tdunn779 This is the way!
Yea I was wondering why everyone is all about cold turkey. Do a long taper. Don’t shock your body so hard. Sounds terrible
Im on day one off now, wish me tf luck y'all im kinda scared but i hope i came prepared
I am nearing the end of a slow taper. This video makes me want to jump off but everytime i do that i relapse so im sticking to the taper but this video got me excited
Exercise, high doses of vitamin c, and forcing yourself to wake up early and not nap or lay in bed all day, just force yourself to move, which makes it so u are so fatigued at night and able to sleep. This made my detox so much more tolerable. I was on methadone for 9 years and made it through that long, drawn out, intense detox by doing these things. Any opiate detox including kratom will be so much more tolerable if u force yourself to do these things and give your body the serotonin and dopamine hits that it needs to push through the current struggle your body is enduring. Low dose benzo for the first week, gabapentin and magnesium at night for restless legs,clonodine every 6 hours to lower blood pressure and help with anxiety and sleep, up no later than 7am every day, no naps, tons of water, and a good vitamin b complex. Your primary should have no problem prescribing u gabapentin and clonodine if u are honest and letting them know your goal and that u are trying to come off something.
Thanks Brandon you have been inspirational. Your great talking to the Cam!! Keep going!
“Go to wegmans and steal it” 😂 hahahahha
I have quit kratom 3 times. The first 2 were cold turkey. Luckily no insomnia all I wanted to do was sleep and felt like I had flu for 4ish days. Then I tapered for 2 weeks and basically had 0 noticable symptoms.
that's awesome. To be honest for a second - I tend to get comments similar to this once in awhile - and I'm always curious as to whether the persons being honest - and if they are - I'm semi jealous because my withdrawal was terrible lmao.
The "3 days of flu" theory that floated around message boards in the mid 2010's lead a lot of people to falsely get into something that they bit off more than they can chew.
Talking about kratom withdrawal - also - makes me nervous - because I believe every drug should be fully legal and accessible. The fact that American's fought back and beat the DEA was one of the most victorious times I can personally remember in my short life that have anything to do with activism/liberty.
When I get these comments (and i may be wrong) - I always suspect that the commenter is annoyed that withdrawal is discussed online - out of fear that kratom will be made illegal. And that fear is absolutely valid. So - I kinda regret not voicing my opinion on how it should NEVER be scheduled in this video. That's one part I forgot. Dang.
Anyways - appreciate the comment - and glad you had a smooth journey.
-b.harm
@@brandonharmonti9242 I definitely wont hold back on telling people that kratom is very addictive and the withdrawals are horrible. I could have went deeper when I said flu for 4ish days in comment. Those 4ish days were brutal and basically kept me in bed and bathroom prison. The taper method on the third jump off for me though was a pretty smooth.
@@FloridaManChowder Richardson can you please tell me how much K you are taking? I am very curious, Bro. I take 4 doses at around 6 g per. So almost a ounce A-day.Am I looking for a serious withdrawal? Only a couple of times I experienced some withdrawals.... before my dosing. Terrible shaking! Tremor like shaking! In the car on expressway I couldn't control myself it was extremely .... Terrifying! I was a heavy opioid user back in the day and I never .... never had withdrawals like THAT coming on before I got my...." hit!" How bout you, bro? Please um explain more.
I find that I don't care if you ....run all day long and try to sleep at night you cannot! Hot showers Sauna , steambath, swimming .....nothing works! It will make you feel better during the exercises but eventually when you stop you still need to go through the withdrawal. Unfortunately. This, my friend is... FACT!
@@ricknowak4582 I was never near that heavy of a user. Maybe at most 15 grams a day but withdrawals were still pretty bad. I recommend a taper. For 2 or 3 weeks getting as low as you can. There are lots of taper videos and is best using powder.
what also really works for me during wd is ASMR but I think that's a very individuall thing
So funny, I thought about Ed Norton in fight club when I listened to you and then you mention him….lol. Your advice in here is great.
RN here. Gabapentin is the most common med prescribed for neuropthic pain. Many people with diabetes take it. It is not known to be addictive which is why doctors are more likely to prescribe it. It should not be hard to get from a PCP. They may also prescribe Trazadone which is a tricyclic antidepressant.and commonly prescribed for sleep. Those should be easy to get. Benzodiazepines are anxiolytics. If you have anxiety they may possibly give it to you. Otherwise, probably not. If you’re having nausea/vomiting, ask for zofran. Non habit forming and effective.
Going through it bad right now thank you for your video
I don't want to quit kratom it's the only thing that numbs me enough to get through all the BS life is giving me....Crappy 9-5 and drama...emotions bad feelings. Not ready to face all the BS until I can afford to invest in my own business and am financially stable.
I understand that, been there too many times. All I can say is when you do quit, all those negative emotions will hit you like a ton of bricks for maybe 1 month or 1.5 months every day straight. Once you get stuff sorted out, it's still gonna be just as bad. If you can get a window of that amount of time, at least 1 week off work, take it. I feel like I've been reborn, I'm not overstating it when I say it was the best decision I've made in my life to quit
gotta agree with Andrew on this one mate. I know exactly how you feel - I've been there myself. We trick ourselves into thinking that kratom is the ultimate 'crutch' that helps our lives tremendously. But - and like ALL drugs - it's a lie. They will ALWAYS eventually turn on you after the honeymoon phase. When I started in 2016 I remember blindly believing that it had zero negative effects on health - but now? i'm reading more and more how bad it is for health and kidneys - and your hair starts falling out (I have patches of hair missing but every time I quit my hair fully grows back)
So.. it's up to you brother. and if you decide to stay on it? that's your prerogative. Some people get great benefits from kratom. So - if you do ever plan on quitting - set a date. If not - I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm a libertarian and put heavy emphasis on my belief in personal responsibility and individualism. So - If ya wanna stay on it - more power to ya brother. if it makes you happy - I'd say keep going at it.
-b.harm
Kratom is lying to you brother. Don’t believe it.
Hi Brandon, thank you so much for this video. I’m on day 3 currently and you’ve made me laugh a lot and feel so much better. You are hilarious and really enjoyable to listen to.
I switched to stem and vein only and it was way easier to reduce dose. Now at 6g a day. There was times when i was up to atleast 20g of straight kratom no stem...there is something bout stem that makes withdrawl and needed to dose more way less. I highly recommend. Im aiming to just do kratom every 3rd day. 48 hrs between doses is the key. Half life.
Where do you source your Kratom stem and vien only? I take 5-6g 4 times a day and have been for the last 8-9 years. It's time I get off and get my life back.
It's amazing how he described everything to a T. I'm on day 5 and it's bad. But literally he knows his shit. I would love to talk to you on the phone or email. I need so much help.
I never comment, but dude this was really good for me. Enjoyed it a lot. And you have a great voice.
Very good and funny. Love Carl Pilkinton, If you haven't seen idiot a broad it's a must, there is two seasons with Carl alone and one with Carl and a midget. You don't talk about tapering. Is it possible to do a half years taper that will make you quit K with out any pain ?
“I can’t believe it’s not butter” now I’m crying.
ive WD BAD from all sorts of potent opiates and im telling you the worst part of WDing is from the insomnia. i can deal with everything else! nothing has ever bothered me more than the insomnia! and thats the thing that really starts to break me down! it messes with your mood with your confidence, you start to really have some low moments! suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety. its horrible. every time ive WD i always had the worst of it come at night once i get up from my bed in the morning i feel so much better! honestly sleeping pills can make WD much worse! ive never had good come from taking sleeping pills. with kratom all you have to do to avoid WDs is taper. i really dont get much WDs from kratom especially if i taper. you could totally taper off of kratom in a week and im telling you by the end of the week if you do a taper your good! ive went from 50grams a day all the way down to just 8 grams and then to 6 grams. and then i stopped taking it in the morning and only dosed 4gs at night and a couple days taking it only at night your FREE from WDs. ive done this a total of 6 times and each time ive kept the regiment and its worked
Could you be more specific please man? like how many days did you drop everyday from say 15gpd cause that is where i am at now? Please man i need to taper fast cause there are people pushing me to quit Ct This week or early next week and i don't have time for a long taper? Please man first time doing a ct from anything cause i always tapered.
@@ghostofme7277 15gpd is really low and i assume it will be much easier for you then it was for me i was taking 40-50gpd at the time i started! you could taper in as little as 5 days to 10 days. make yourself a plan. lets start with day 1. on day one start by only taking 13gpd. do that for 2 days. on day 3 lower it to 10gpd, stay there for also 2 days, on day 5 lower it to 8gpdand stay there for another 2 day. on day 7 lower it to 6gpd. when you get here to only 6gpd im telling you becomes so easy. and at this point you can start to skip 1 dose. it may seem hard to do this and you might get discomfort and lethargic but keep your doses for the most important times of the day like in the morning and at night right before bed. the most important dose of the day for me while tapering was the night time dose so i skipped the middle of the dose. do ths also for 2-3 days and on day 9-10 skip the morning dose or you can choose to lower your doses 4gpd. i suggest you keep the night time dose for sure thos because insomnia will destroy your plan. you can opt to take 50mg of benadryl (which helped me a lot for sleep) when you get to 4gpd you could most likely stop all together with very minimal WDs. when you get to the point of only taking the night time dose it will be so f'n easy to stop. at this point i didnt even have 1 WD. this is just my example of what i would do. you can change it if you want to make it more rapid taper or a slower one. i always opt for the slower taper just because your body will become a costumed to lower gpd with less discomfort. what i noticed is that the first day-2days of dropping your dose will have some discomfort but after that day your body gets use to only taking that tapered dose. just remeber that while you get a little discomfort it wont last forever and you will have your nighttime dose to give you some much needed comfort and some rejuvenating sleep. it is so mcuh easier to taper then it is to quit cold turkey
You are a very talented speaker. I came to this video because I was worried it is becoming a problem. You gave me the courage...and great tips to quit. Thank you
I’ve only used kratom a few times I mainly used subs for the opiate and heroin withdrawals
Did that work for you? If so, how much and how long did you take it? I want to try this myself but don't want to get stuck on subs
So, you inspired me to start making videos again. It really helped when I did. I mentioned you in my video. You and Gabe McCall have made me want to document my recovery again. I mentioned you in my video.
Thanks for the video!
I bought a Nord 2 and filled it with delta 8 distillate. Perfect
13:13 Richard Goggins moment. "Want the pain" 😂
I'll probably watch this everyday as I get off kratom...thanks for making this video ❤
Quitting Kratom is relatively easy. Staying off is hard. Made it like 18 days before I got bored and picked some up. I have all the supplements and about 100g of hirsuta I’m gonna use till it runs out in a week or so and hopefully get away with no wd. I am a weed guy so I’ll smoke myself to sleep if need be.
Rehab doesn’t need repeat customers. There’s enough addicts out there to keep them going. Plus 70-80 % of addicts in rehab will relapse. My relapse was weed and kratom. Got off the dope and everything just to build up a kratom addiction a year after rehab. There was actually a guy in rehab there for kratom. He was taking 100g a day he said . Currently tapering and switching strainso kick it.
Same for me, went to detox for phentynal, got out clean, started taking k.ugh, now I'm gearing up to withdraw...ugh
Thank you so much for this video, you're a great person!
Dude, I really appreciate your vidios, if nothing else, you make me lmao!!! Your hilarious... that's great for me as I go through withdrawal 😂😂
Bruh incidentally I’ve been listening to that Ricky Gervais podcast the past two weeks and this week I decided to quit; tapering now. Karl Dilkington is amazing.
I’ve quit a few times and can attest to much of what you’ve said. Great vids and I relate to your music stuff as well.
Tomorrow is day one! Thanks 🙏
Opening my eye's is a big trigger for me also. VERY GOOD VIDEO
I’m finally off Kratom wee! Ahh that’s why I had those disgusting disturbing nightmares… like the one about my ex who is grows marijuana and we were on the road staying in this motel and we get a bang bang bang on the door in the middle of the night and find it to be the authorities and he tells me he like tore the lock of the door or something and redid it so no one could bust in, then him telling me that he’s probably going to get locked up and me just being stranded there thousands of miles away from home meanwhile he looks like he’s on some sort of drug that really messed him up….Or the one where this random girl had defecated buckets worth of sh*t
Amazing video. I really liked this. I’ve been watching several of your vids. You seem almost tolerable as a person. I’m kidding. I dig your personality and perspectives and humor. Keep it up man. You never know where this could go.
Probably worse than heroin withdrawals but not as wretched as suboxone - kratom is a special kind of hell
8:02 RLS and wanting to jump out of your body. I’ll take insomnia over that any day.
For me the worst was anxiety attacks and restless leg. But thise were part of the reason i started taking kratom. The withdrawal intensifies the symptoms
That is wild and lucky you did not get anxiety as I find kratom anxiety worse than any other opiate and I have have kicked the worst of the worst such as zenes, fent analogues, RC opiates, etc all IV. Kratom has me yelling into pillows with my bones itching with anxiety. Etizolam helps for sure and it is cheap AF online.
The nightmares are no joke. Last night I had a dream I was reliving my m*rder on repeat. Like a game, each time it restarted I would try to do something new to change the outcome, but it always ended the same.
I really like your style. The part about…. Drink water … fuck you… that was hilarious. More commentary later. Thanks
haha thanks man i just rewatched it thats my favorite part as well. Hope ya stick around!
-b.harm
I'm three weeks in from cold turkey. I wish i had of watched this video in the beginning!😅
I ended up getting the supplement NAC. Game changer for anxiety. The FDA was trying to ban it during COVID, but Amazon just brought it back. I don't understand the complete mechanism of why it works for anxiety, but I guess the ER uses it for acetaminophen poisoning
Man this is amazing. I hope you talk about Agamine…love it
RIP B Harmonti, you will be missed
He’s not dead
The worst thing about drugs is withdrawing. Even worse when you know you are and know you can fix it with a drug.
For example if I was withdrawing on something and never experienced it before, I’d just think I got the flu. But knowing is the worst part.
“Kratom sucks, it’s not even that good of a drug.”
Hey to anybody thay enjoyed this video I want to recommend his "how I became an addict" series. He's got 5 parts and he really can tell a story like no other youtuber.
I ate very high doses of yellow sumatra for many years,, after developing sum very persistent gut problems that doctors are too stupid or dont care enuff to help with. I decided to take matters into my own hands. I stopped taking kratom and started takin probiotics and eating differently along with lots of exercise. Its been about at least a year since I quit and Im still healing from it. kratom = suffering
I've heard people say vitamin apples pears kiwis C in high doses helps people alot!
“ make sure you drink water “ “ oh fuck you” is exactly what withdrawal feels like when you try to explain it to your friend who hasn’t done it lol
The I cant believe its not butter part made made me cry laughing hahaha . Also i think your theory that men feel unfulfilled because they are not doing manly things is spot on.
This is great my guy. This should work for any opiates.
It's day 5, this video helped me :)
I appreciate you and this video tremendously. It was helpful.
Never tell your doctors that you are addicted to anything. Tell them you are physically dependent... That says you not an addict but need help.
Be careful with Gabapentin. I'm sober off of alcohol for 4 years. In early recovery this time around, I was prescribed Gabapentin to help with the symptoms of alcohol withdrawal. I did not take rhe Gabapentin as prescribed, and got myself to a point where I would have uncontrollable shakes/tremors. Getting off of Gabapentin was really terrible, and I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I started taking them.
I take 900 mg a day but I've never abused it .. which is weird because I'm an addict
This guy obviously has a drug issue. Very accurate, and funny. Try setting at home in withdrawal and having Suboxone, Bennzo's, access to any drug whatsoever. And still just pushing through the withdrawal. Currently have Kratom, Suboxone, Benzo's and anything else very close by. I keep fentanyl as far as i can away!