This is way you are my go to holster guy!! I have been looking for an option to have a ring for my olight!! I'll be ordering the Theorm Switchback today so Thank you Shane for all of your hard work it's very much appreciated!! My truck/camping light is my OD Green Warrior 3x which is a bigger strong throwing light about 600 meters and has 3 glass breakers on it! I would love to see you test the glass breaking capability for it plus it already comes with a very cool Oring!
Great lights...The Warrior X series are awesome.... people talk crap about Olight yet my Modlite and my Inforce Wild 2 both failed under 9mm recoil...my 5 year old Olight still shines
If you need to attest to the durability an Olight can have, look at the Drain Addict channel. Oliver has been using an R50 Seeker for at least half a decade, and he does not baby his equipment AT ALL.
Say what you will about olight but this particular switch design with the partial press for low momentary and hard press for high momentary with the side switch being for constant on is a big appeal to me. I wish other brands would integrate this design. The tailcap cycling through brightness is a big no go for a tactical light in my mind.
Olight is geared toward the collector, issuing the same light over and over again, just in different colors. I have several Olights and they have all been fine, I am a user not a collector. From a user standpoint in my opinion, Sofirn and Wurkkos are just as good as Olight at a third of the price. Olight however is now offering a lifetime warranty on their lights which may be worth the extra money to some.
I love this light and i have it. Forget about using this as an outdoor light, it doesn't provide the throw enough to illuminate where you're pointing your light at. But for general indoor use, this is really good!
ive used a mix of Olight units for severat years. yes the copper versions are tanks. i have one that does not see much use because the copper is so heavy. The upshot is that while other makers may simply copper plate their special editions Olight actually uses all copper construction. in my experience Olights are tough and durable - the only real failure Ive seen is that on rare occasions the circuitry in the units glitches and even a freshly charged one won't turn on. Unscrewing the cap and removing the battery then reinserting it and screwing the cap back on corrects the issue. This typically does not reocurr for months.The Odin rifle lights have yet to fail and same is truue for a couple of Baldr Mini pistol lights. My EDC experience with handheld lights has rarely if ever failed and that was due to the user failing to recharge a unit.
I bought a copper one after seeing your review. Very pretty light but was disappointed that the "throw" didn't seem any better than the streamlight protac hl-x I already had. Figured it out, olight has 2x the lumens but less candela.
I own olight surefire and stream light. Recently I became aware of fenix. Highly recommend trying out fenix lights. They have some tactical switches that allow instant strobe plus second tatical switch to cycle through high medium low eco etc. and are computerized to come on what ever level you leave it on first. They make some huge lumen numbers that also behave amazing candlea with beam meter distances way beyond competition. Great videos as always, but would love to see you test out fenix lights.
That’s cool you have some lights to compare against other light companies. I carry a number of Fenix lights myself and they are durable quality lights I’ve not had a problem with. Fenix PD36R v1 1,600 lumen. That comes in at 20,000 candela. But what makes this light even more usable is that the die size LED sst40 is larger than most leds. Only downside to this emitter is its green tint. Fenix PD35 V3 1,700 lumen light. This is one of their flagship lights and is very capable for a smaller light. It uses the SFT40 emitter and produces 350 meters (31,650 candela) of range. BUT…. Recently I’ve tried out Olight Perun 2 mini 1,100 lumen headlamp, with a paltry 160 meter throw. Now you’re probably wondering why I’m comparing a weaker powered headlamp/ light to bigger lights??? Well it’s because of this and this ALONE. The technology that goes into what’s called a “total internal reflector…. Or…. TIR Optic. Olight uses this optic on most their lights as well as this Warrior 3S. In short, that TIR optic makes use of spreading the total lumen output for a more refined and brighter beam. When I tried my Olight Perun 2 mini right angle light on moon light mode it was incredibly bright and useful even at the lowest modes. That’s why I want to try this light out.
M2R owner here. Long term daily use has shown me a few things. Bright, yes.. Charging issues (may or may not charge at all), tail cap on/off (if at all) issues, moving on to something else. Maybe back to Fenix, or even a mod light, or defensive..
I prefer my edc lights use 18650 batteries because all my weapon lights use 18650 and the edc light can be used as a makeshift 18650 charger. I carry a wurkkos fc11.
I have a couple of MR2 Warrior Pro's. They're bright and more importantly tougher than nails. Olight catches a lot of sh*t due to their hokey marketing and flash sales. I have to agree with those thoughts, flash sales suck. Just set a price and sell the damn light. I think Olights are a tad on the expensive side for what they are, but I'm glad i have about a dozen around here.
Interesting to see the hate for Olight. Not really an olight fan, bit they seem to be doing well. A guy I worked with had a Surefire that exploded in the passenger seat of his patrol car. Using surefire batteries. Surefire told him they wouldn't cover it. Left an impression on me. He switched to the Thrunite Scorpion at the time. Olight always seemed cheap, but their new stuff isn't too bad. Just picked up the Warrior 3s, hated it out of the box. Took it out at night and loved it. Extremely useful admin light and seems to fit the bill for tactical. I got it for teaching low light defense courses and wanted an option to show students that bridges the gap between momentary only and EDC lights. I'm going to test it further, but looks promising.
@@37gdog Good a what? Are they momentary only lights? They are dozens of "good" lights that all do the same thing. What makes them as good in this context?
@37gdog The video is about it being a tactical light. No one gives a fuck about your colors. Output over 1.5 to 1.75 amps isn't necessary. Do your lights have momentarily ONLY option? Not "Momentary UnTiL iT cLiCkS". Actual momentary only. If so, what make and model?
@@simulatedzero I don’t care about colors either, or I wouldn’t be buying them. Try and keep up. You can look the lights up yourself, I don’t give two fucks what you buy, I merely pointed out manufacturers that are a third the price and do the same thing. I like when people that say they’re not Olight fanboys get all butt hurt when someone brings up other lights lol.
@junktube4000 What is best for one may not be for another. Closest thing I have found to “best” is the Thrunite tn12 pro. Has the same UI Olight is known for. Which in my opinion is the best UI hands down. I just don’t like, although very subtle, the extra bit of “chunkyness” the Olight has to offer, obviously the Olight has the proprietary 21700 with the proprietary charging cord. While the tn12 pro can accept all of the commonly available button top 18650’s I use in my modlite’s, and charges it on the go with a very common usb-c cable. Has a bit more candela than the Olight with all the same great lower admin modes. With that said I almost always grab the modlite 18350 hand held over anything else I just prefer the size because I can drop it in the bottom of my pocket and still pull it out pretty quick with a lanyard I attached to it. For low admin light I use a small twisty keychain light with a quick release magnet I got off Amazon. That way I don’t have to have all the keys in my hand to use it. When I get done with it I just sweep the light over my keys and the magnets usually always connect easily.
@@Tony-sy7ed I'm jealous of your Modlite 18350. After looking into a bunch of flashlights today, I wanted a Cloud Defensive MCH HC, which is cheaper than the Modlites. I think I'd get the version with just one setting (turbo), because I wouldn't want to flip past the low setting mode to get to the high mode. Any thoughts on this light? Should I go for the Modlite instead? I'm shocked to see that the Thrunite tn12 pro is a similar size (thickness) to the warrior mini (which I EDC) and the tn12 has a brighter candela than the M2R pro. I think I'm done with olight. I might also grab a tn12 pro now for comfortable EDC. I saw you also recommended the PD32v2 in other video comments. Do you like the tn12 more than the PD32v2 now, as a budget option? Thanks!
You can’t go wrong with either modlite or cloud. Iv said the same thing about clouds mode selection on the dual head, needs to be high then low and the low isn’t low enough. I’m a fan of clouds color temp but modlite got me in the beginning with the compatibility with surefire scout accessories. Then the batteries that worked in the modlites and surefire DFs also are compatible with other devices I had. My 18650’s are protected so they don’t fit in the cloud lights because they use unprotected cells, unless something has changed. Surefire’s new turbo handhelds should be available pretty soon. But if your open to having many different batteries either one is great. Olight handhelds are great I just don’t like all the proprietary charging system. I think someone else recommended the pd32, maybe. I have recommended the pd36 it has great output but I can’t stand fenix’s UI with output memory. Now I couldn’t recommend either fenix over the Thrunite. I use the moonlight sub lumen output 99% of the time and I want to know when I’m operating a light what output am I getting at turn on. If I hold down the side switch I get very light light and I can ramp up if I need to, if I need all the light I hit the tail switch, there is nothing better than that. If I could get clouds HC output with an admin side switch of the Olight, and the gas pedal tail switch, with an 18350 size, that might be the most game changing light ever made.
Companies that has proprietary batteries or charging methods like Apple and olight to try make more money while making it less convenient for the consumer is a methodology I don't agree with. The only olight I carry is one that can use other batteries which isn't many.
I like olight. Been a customer since their inception. Some dude uses the wrong batteries and blows himself up then the internet cancels them for good. I don’t get it. Great review as always.
@@JohnDoe-wz7lw I've looked at some of the info on that case from many years ago now... do you have a link to the source of info that it touched the battery? Thanks!
I'm just trying to keep up with key lights on the market. Olight has so many new releases it's hard to keep up. And other companies don't release as often.
@@HSTMachineexactly. Most these fools just hate Olight because they are loyal to their own brands without knowing what the difference is. Bet if they actually tried an Olight they’d change their mind lol
This is way you are my go to holster guy!! I have been looking for an option to have a ring for my olight!! I'll be ordering the Theorm Switchback today so Thank you Shane for all of your hard work it's very much appreciated!! My truck/camping light is my OD Green Warrior 3x which is a bigger strong throwing light about 600 meters and has 3 glass breakers on it! I would love to see you test the glass breaking capability for it plus it already comes with a very cool Oring!
Great lights...The Warrior X series are awesome.... people talk crap about Olight yet my Modlite and my Inforce Wild 2 both failed under 9mm recoil...my 5 year old Olight still shines
If you need to attest to the durability an Olight can have, look at the Drain Addict channel. Oliver has been using an R50 Seeker for at least half a decade, and he does not baby his equipment AT ALL.
Say what you will about olight but this particular switch design with the partial press for low momentary and hard press for high momentary with the side switch being for constant on is a big appeal to me. I wish other brands would integrate this design. The tailcap cycling through brightness is a big no go for a tactical light in my mind.
Thank you for this review. No one else goes as indepth as you guys.
Olight is geared toward the collector, issuing the same light over and over again, just in different colors. I have several Olights and they have all been fine, I am a user not a collector. From a user standpoint in my opinion, Sofirn and Wurkkos are just as good as Olight at a third of the price. Olight however is now offering a lifetime warranty on their lights which may be worth the extra money to some.
Valid points.
I love this light and i have it. Forget about using this as an outdoor light, it doesn't provide the throw enough to illuminate where you're pointing your light at. But for general indoor use, this is really good!
ive used a mix of Olight units for severat years. yes the copper versions are tanks. i have one that does not see much use because the copper is so heavy. The upshot is that while other makers may simply copper plate their special editions Olight actually uses all copper construction. in my experience Olights are tough and durable - the only real failure Ive seen is that on rare occasions the circuitry in the units glitches and even a freshly charged one won't turn on. Unscrewing the cap and removing the battery then reinserting it and screwing the cap back on corrects the issue. This typically does not reocurr for months.The Odin rifle lights have yet to fail and same is truue for a couple of Baldr Mini pistol lights. My EDC experience with handheld lights has rarely if ever failed and that was due to the user failing to recharge a unit.
I bought a copper one after seeing your review. Very pretty light but was disappointed that the "throw" didn't seem any better than the streamlight protac hl-x I already had. Figured it out, olight has 2x the lumens but less candela.
Check out the olight warrior x3. I think it would give cloud and modlite a good run for money as it's rated for 71 000 candela
I own olight surefire and stream light. Recently I became aware of fenix. Highly recommend trying out fenix lights. They have some tactical switches that allow instant strobe plus second tatical switch to cycle through high medium low eco etc. and are computerized to come on what ever level you leave it on first. They make some huge lumen numbers that also behave amazing candlea with beam meter distances way beyond competition. Great videos as always, but would love to see you test out fenix lights.
That’s cool you have some lights to compare against other light companies.
I carry a number of Fenix lights myself and they are durable quality lights I’ve not had a problem with.
Fenix PD36R v1 1,600 lumen. That comes in at 20,000 candela. But what makes this light even more usable is that the die size LED sst40 is larger than most leds. Only downside to this emitter is its green tint.
Fenix PD35 V3 1,700 lumen light. This is one of their flagship lights and is very capable for a smaller light. It uses the SFT40 emitter and produces 350 meters (31,650 candela) of range.
BUT….
Recently I’ve tried out Olight Perun 2 mini 1,100 lumen headlamp, with a paltry 160 meter throw. Now you’re probably wondering why I’m comparing a weaker powered headlamp/ light to bigger lights???
Well it’s because of this and this ALONE.
The technology that goes into what’s called a “total internal reflector…. Or…. TIR Optic.
Olight uses this optic on most their lights as well as this Warrior 3S. In short, that TIR optic makes use of spreading the total lumen output for a more refined and brighter beam.
When I tried my Olight Perun 2 mini right angle light on moon light mode it was incredibly bright and useful even at the lowest modes.
That’s why I want to try this light out.
M2R owner here. Long term daily use has shown me a few things. Bright, yes.. Charging issues (may or may not charge at all), tail cap on/off (if at all) issues, moving on to something else. Maybe back to Fenix, or even a mod light, or defensive..
What light did you have that was causing you difficulties?
You can also do a quick half press on the tail switch for constant on.
No luck with that brand light here. Charging issues are the worst. BTW, your holsters are awesome!
Thanks for sharing your experience! And thank you for your positive feedback on our gear!
I have a dozen OLights, never a single charging issue on even one of them. You must gotten a bad one.
@@typhoonjenkins8330 same
Nice. I've been thinking of what EDC to get someday, and it would be nice to use my Olight charger more often from my first weapon light
I prefer my edc lights use 18650 batteries because all my weapon lights use 18650 and the edc light can be used as a makeshift 18650 charger. I carry a wurkkos fc11.
You use an 18650 torch on your pistols? (legit question)
I went with fenix tk16 v2. as far as olight, I went with marauder mini (throw and flood). nitecore p23i just came out, need some comparison videos.
Just bought one on sale at Olight!!
I have a couple of MR2 Warrior Pro's. They're bright and more importantly tougher than nails. Olight catches a lot of sh*t due to their hokey marketing and flash sales. I have to agree with those thoughts, flash sales suck. Just set a price and sell the damn light. I think Olights are a tad on the expensive side for what they are, but I'm glad i have about a dozen around here.
Thanks for your feedback!
It been deleted according to the website 😢 any other suggestions
Interesting to see the hate for Olight. Not really an olight fan, bit they seem to be doing well. A guy I worked with had a Surefire that exploded in the passenger seat of his patrol car. Using surefire batteries. Surefire told him they wouldn't cover it. Left an impression on me. He switched to the Thrunite Scorpion at the time. Olight always seemed cheap, but their new stuff isn't too bad. Just picked up the Warrior 3s, hated it out of the box. Took it out at night and loved it. Extremely useful admin light and seems to fit the bill for tactical. I got it for teaching low light defense courses and wanted an option to show students that bridges the gap between momentary only and EDC lights. I'm going to test it further, but looks promising.
I have several Olights that have served me well, however I have found that Sofirn and Wurkkos lights are just as good at a third of the price.
@@37gdog Good a what? Are they momentary only lights? They are dozens of "good" lights that all do the same thing. What makes them as good in this context?
@@simulatedzero Output, run time and durability, they just don’t come in fancy colors.
@37gdog The video is about it being a tactical light. No one gives a fuck about your colors. Output over 1.5 to 1.75 amps isn't necessary. Do your lights have momentarily ONLY option? Not "Momentary UnTiL iT cLiCkS". Actual momentary only. If so, what make and model?
@@simulatedzero I don’t care about colors either, or I wouldn’t be buying them. Try and keep up. You can look the lights up yourself, I don’t give two fucks what you buy, I merely pointed out manufacturers that are a third the price and do the same thing. I like when people that say they’re not Olight fanboys get all butt hurt when someone brings up other lights lol.
No issues with my olights. Keep showing them f the haters
We have some good Olights, and very few bad ones. I appreciate that they keep pushing new products. Competition is good!
Been using olight and surefire for years love them both. But their is a big difference in price. Xc1 vs pl mini 2, plmini wins
The recharging capability is also a big seller for Olight, streamlight needs a rechargeable option
“Short answer, no it’s not”.
Long answer, because the internet told me so.
Good review.
Heh. Thanks!
What is the best tactical EDC then? I'd like something with a brighter candella than my M2R pro.
@junktube4000
What is best for one may not be for another. Closest thing I have found to “best” is the Thrunite tn12 pro. Has the same UI Olight is known for. Which in my opinion is the best UI hands down. I just don’t like, although very subtle, the extra bit of “chunkyness” the Olight has to offer, obviously the Olight has the proprietary 21700 with the proprietary charging cord. While the tn12 pro can accept all of the commonly available button top 18650’s I use in my modlite’s, and charges it on the go with a very common usb-c cable. Has a bit more candela than the Olight with all the same great lower admin modes. With that said I almost always grab the modlite 18350 hand held over anything else I just prefer the size because I can drop it in the bottom of my pocket and still pull it out pretty quick with a lanyard I attached to it. For low admin light I use a small twisty keychain light with a quick release magnet I got off Amazon. That way I don’t have to have all the keys in my hand to use it. When I get done with it I just sweep the light over my keys and the magnets usually always connect easily.
@@Tony-sy7ed I'm jealous of your Modlite 18350. After looking into a bunch of flashlights today, I wanted a Cloud Defensive MCH HC, which is cheaper than the Modlites. I think I'd get the version with just one setting (turbo), because I wouldn't want to flip past the low setting mode to get to the high mode. Any thoughts on this light? Should I go for the Modlite instead?
I'm shocked to see that the Thrunite tn12 pro is a similar size (thickness) to the warrior mini (which I EDC) and the tn12 has a brighter candela than the M2R pro. I think I'm done with olight. I might also grab a tn12 pro now for comfortable EDC. I saw you also recommended the PD32v2 in other video comments. Do you like the tn12 more than the PD32v2 now, as a budget option? Thanks!
You can’t go wrong with either modlite or cloud. Iv said the same thing about clouds mode selection on the dual head, needs to be high then low and the low isn’t low enough. I’m a fan of clouds color temp but modlite got me in the beginning with the compatibility with surefire scout accessories. Then the batteries that worked in the modlites and surefire DFs also are compatible with other devices I had. My 18650’s are protected so they don’t fit in the cloud lights because they use unprotected cells, unless something has changed. Surefire’s new turbo handhelds should be available pretty soon. But if your open to having many different batteries either one is great. Olight handhelds are great I just don’t like all the proprietary charging system. I think someone else recommended the pd32, maybe. I have recommended the pd36 it has great output but I can’t stand fenix’s UI with output memory. Now I couldn’t recommend either fenix over the Thrunite. I use the moonlight sub lumen output 99% of the time and I want to know when I’m operating a light what output am I getting at turn on. If I hold down the side switch I get very light light and I can ramp up if I need to, if I need all the light I hit the tail switch, there is nothing better than that. If I could get clouds HC output with an admin side switch of the Olight, and the gas pedal tail switch, with an 18350 size, that might be the most game changing light ever made.
Best tactical Flashlight.!
Companies that has proprietary batteries or charging methods like Apple and olight to try make more money while making it less convenient for the consumer is a methodology I don't agree with. The only olight I carry is one that can use other batteries which isn't many.
How long until the Warrior 3S claims a confirmed kill?
I know some olights have taken a beating on camera, but I cant trust their QC. I wouldnt mind an edc light but wouldnt trust them when the time comes.
I use them daily. But lights are like guns some people just talk about things they haven’t used hint hint.
SureFire is the most over priced light on the market today.
By faaaar.
I like olight. Been a customer since their inception. Some dude uses the wrong batteries and blows himself up then the internet cancels them for good. I don’t get it.
Great review as always.
The flashlight also touched the positive terminal of a 12v car battery while it was being held in his mouth
@@JohnDoe-wz7lw I've looked at some of the info on that case from many years ago now... do you have a link to the source of info that it touched the battery? Thanks!
My main gripe with o light is that they used proprietary batteries and chargers now. Probably because of that incident.
I'm drank paint and blamed the paint manufacturer for not having a warning label
I've got my volume turned all the way up and it's still a little hard to hear you.
Thanks for the feedback!
no problem here. I am using headphones.
People are going to be mad that you reviewed a Chinese light because their Chinese made Streamlight is better.
found the Olight shill
@@kimbroslic3 Yeah, all the other light brands I own make me a shill. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm just trying to keep up with key lights on the market. Olight has so many new releases it's hard to keep up. And other companies don't release as often.
@@WerkzHolsters i appreciate you doing all of this, no matter the brand.
@@gavin1215 Thanks much Gavin!
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No light over olight! Stick to the good lights
No is the short answer
Thanks for the feedback!
I HATE that pocket clip. It's too big and a snag waiting to happen.
Thanks for the feedback! If I were to run the light, I would probably go Switchback.
@@WerkzHolsters is there a switchback for this light?
Olight no thanks
Thanks for the feedback!
Why is that?
That's what I said until I was given one as a gift. My Surefire, Streamlights & Fenix are all backups now.
Olight hate is stupid. They are the largest flashlight manufacturer in the world, so they must be doing something right.
@@HSTMachineexactly. Most these fools just hate Olight because they are loyal to their own brands without knowing what the difference is.
Bet if they actually tried an Olight they’d change their mind lol
Olight 👎
Thanks for the feedback!
What don’t you like about Olight? Can u elaborate?
No.
At all.
Nothing “best” about Oligjt tf 🤣
Appreciate your feedback on this!
What Olight products have you tried? Probably none
No.. It’s not
Which one is?