Tony Blair on the future of liberalism
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Speaking in London at The Economist’s Open Future festival on September 15th 2018, former British prime minister Tony Blair spoke to Helen Joyce about Brexit, immigration, technology and political participation.
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Like him or not, that was a horrendous introduction to an interview.
I agree it was shocking.
I thought that it was sort of refreshing, if a bit rude.
I thought it was a great introduction right to the point
errr, the truth,,
Say what you like about him. Britain seemed a lot happier under Blair than the current government.
Facts
He’s clever. He’s nice. Anyhow he has common sense.
Really I don’t think so ,fecking horrible human ,he should be locked up ,for war crimes ,this guy as so much blood on his hands with his leader bush ,
@Midorima Shintaro did he really ,I was made redundant for the first time in my life when he was in power ,this so called working class party finished being that when he came to power ,we know he will never go to prison for what he did because to many peps protect him,one of the biggest mass murders of all time and can get away with it,makes me feel sick ,
@@kevinjackson6387
You might have, but vast majority were much more economically secure under him than they have been in last 10 yrs.
He ran the economy beautifully, all classes of people benefitted from it. There's a reason why he was reelected with so massive mandate, because he connected left, right, centre alike politically.
The so-called working class party labor party were out of power for 18 freaking year. Their old school socialist policies were out of touch with British people. Tony understood that which is why he made the party ditch socialism & adapt centre-left policies. Look at what happened when Corbyn tried to make labor go back to Socialist routes. British public rejected it. Labor desperately need a leader like Tony now to get back to power.
Regarding foreign policy, yes he made a massive massive mistake blindly following Bush to Iraq. But he also saved the lives of over hundreds of thousands of Kosovo people who were being genocided by serbs. There are still kids in Kosovo today who are named after Blair. Villain in one part, while hero in another.
If you are iraqi, he should seem like devil to you. But if you are brit, there's not much complain about him, he is easily the best PM of UK since Atlee.
Amusing that none of the clowns commenting here actually listened to the interview in which they talk about how social media has become a platform for an exchange of abuse and slogans rather than serious argument.
....oh and became a middle eastern peace envoy without a shred of irony !
that was a reward for waging war on Iraque
Wtf is this guy doing on a podium
He was Prime Minister
He _IS_ a class traitor and war criminal.
And the he sold his handshakes to dictators. horrible human being.
No shit. He is a dumbass. And an elitist fuck who’s against helping working people or poor people. Only the rich.
I think he should be the next prime Minister.
Putting everything aside, he does have some relevant points to make.
congratulations to the economist for designing the most awkward, uncomfortable interview stage I have ever seen
I don't really like how at the start he doesn't really answer any of her questions since he basically changed the topic to technology and society. They were very valid questions to be asking and they need discussion.
He is literally a Neoliberal.
He never directly answers any questions. Just sells you his direction. That's his career all over.
He doesn’t have any answers
@@antielite5379 guilty as charged would have done lol
Spin doctor in chief.
Happy birthday tony from italian boy live in rome
What on earth was that introduction?
War Criminal .
Blair minus the Iraq War was not such a bad leader. He understood how markets, risk-taking, the Pareto wealth effect, and the individual selfish gene conjointly worked in a constantly changing, adaptative and complex economic system in the absence of central planning from the authorities.
However, the Inheritance Tax and Financial Deregulation accompanied by Financial Institutions led to Moral Hazard coupled with the Irrational Exuberance created a new type of Systemic Risk; and in addition to that, at the Macro level, the BOE Autonomy, and the public sector debt increases to do away with the Boom-Bust Cycle, that came about as a result of economic and social policies, of his poster boy Chancellor, left a bad taste behind.
He in my opinion delivered the final blow to Socialism in the UK, on the one hand, by encouraging free enterprise to create wealth, economic inclusion, and social mobility, and on the other hand, rejecting the traditional left-leaning bias against the nanny socialist state style meddling and dabbling in matters which are completely falling within the domain of private life of an individual, was rejected.
This admission of guilt, and reformation in the collectivist thought process, that public ownership of economic assets leads to public failure, was a significant paradigm shift that changed centre-left politics across the EU and beyond.
His successor Brown was the main culprit who can be described as the architect of Financial Instability, Financial Speculation, and Figure Fudging in the British Economy.
Also, the redistribution of wealth, in the form of welfare benefits, which masked the unemployment rate, under the Blair Brown Years, is still debated among economists.
The Golden Rule of public borrowing to smoothen out the Business Cyclical Effects, introduced by Brown created massive growth in the money supply and this was mostly used by the financial institutions to increase risk-taking exposures by investing in a casino economy, where lottery-style financial pay off products such as the derivatives and their complex cousins the structured products, led to the damaging of the financial markets, the depositors, the households and the larger economy, in between 1998 and 2008. These casinos aka financial institutions were deregulated with no emphasis on the shaping of policy in light of either financial risk regulation or Macroprudential Advice coming from the FSA.
Of course, what followed Northern Rock, was the nationalization of banks during the GFC.
He should become the PM again of his country.
Top guy.
Mr Blair your a war criminal.
Thousands have died at your hands.
Innocent women children and the sick and frail.
How you can smile knowing what you done,is beyond me.
You make me ashamed to be British.
Tony Blair, as usual, is intelligent and engaging. Britain is lucky to have politicians of this calibre.
war crimes
A program on Joe Cox could be meaningful at this juncture. Tony was right when he says " decision divides".
My take on the future; Bush and Blair will never walk down Main St Baghdad hand in hand without an army of heavily armed comandos.
@olehomer1988 Yeah from the corrupt bandits that they put in power.
Politicians and liberals elites are most stupid warmongers they will be defeated by new radiation of truth from the center of Galaxy this radiation exposes most evil people like master of worldwide subversions George Soros and other stupid globalists and liberals psychopaths of Gender agenda and LBGT fecal love agenda and other dehumanisation of the NWO.Macron was defeated by French people oposing to NWO agenda. Political party should be dissolved because they are antidemocratic and antihuman. China does not need political parties and still thrive the most.
Nothing wrong with a strong state, its when that state becomes corrupt, indifferent.
I like Tony Blair I really don’t get why people who don’t watch the videos
Punctuation.
Because he's a bare faced liar.
The Iraq war really destroyed this mans credibility which is shame because he got a lot right and in most issues he has proven to be a decent man.
The Great 'Sir Tony Blair" Tory slayer. A title well deserved and long over due. The Greatest living British Statesman.
Are you on drugs
@@kevinjackson6387 I wish.
He also kept the Chamoagne Rwvolutionary faction of the Labour Party well and truly locked in its cage for 20 years .Top bloke .
One of our kind
“ Neoliberalism “
You've got crisis all over the place due to unequal wealth distribution.
Europe can be the fourth giant!!!!
Tony Blair is a friend of the United States...and a hero. PERIOD
You can have him
Commando Blair .The leftie slayer .
influence = work together
ahaha. Look at Mike Gapes' in the background. Pure adoration of Blair.
Spot on
GREAT MASTER OF DRUIDS...
Why ask a fascist?
Brexit is fascism.
brexit???
Because the economist is a facist magazine?.
Why do Irish Banks charge over 4% on a Standard rate mortgage, When out of 245,000 have the ability to change. Something is wrong shackels from the past,
Unexpected positive comment!
I think he was fine. Realistically, ‘soft conservatism’ was the best move 97-2005. No idea why he went for Iraq though.
Peter's Perspective The reason Blair and the UK Parliament voted to join Bush and the US Government in invading Iraq was the flawed Intelligence
supplied to Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) by the CIA that Iraq had WMD.
Any PM faced with that Intelligence would have a difficult decision to make.
@@MrGranfield Absolute garbage. The intelligence was phoney and Bliar knew it, precisely because he connived at the creation of it. The decision was made long before the intelligence was cooked up. Bliar was on a mission to destroy Saddam and the "intelligence" that missiles could reach the UK in 45 minutes was a laughable farrago of lies, damned lies and statistics. Which makes him a war criminal, by the way.
@@MrGranfield Yes but first they had to suicide the British weapons inspector who spoke out and blew the whistle. And despite everything, despite how wrong it was; he would do it all again, he is like a messiah figure, he just knows everything and is just never wrong
@@helenrowley1886 The facts of the matter are that Blair was misinformed by the intelligence services particularly the CIA
on the matter of WMD. As PM he had to take the erroneous intelligence at face value and reluctantly follow Bush into the conflict.
Your comment "First they had to suicide the British weapons inspector". Is foolish.
@@MacJaxonManOfAction How do YOU know what Blair knew?
England gave the young US a fantastic insight. Single currency and single language. If Europe can do that, they will instantly attain a very high standard of living . The animosity in the comments towards Tony Blair are a waste of time to give any consideration to. Immigrants should be incentivised to speak English and the rest of Europe should realize the profit of common currency. The English TEA should become a world wide phenomena where persons of other cultures are sought out to have tea with. Colored hats should be worn and the police should award lottery tickets to diverse Tea groups.
Criminal
I can understand what Tony Blair is saying about jobs but does he really believe that from my experience and my situation what I have been told about not being able to get jobs because of foreign people is true and I was not born in the uk
If he is here defending liberalism why in the world is he in the Labour party and why doesn´t he join the Liberal Democrats?
In 1983 at Bow St Magistrates Court a certain Charles Lynton was fined £50 for attempted soliciting in city toilets, the police notes were to disappear later along with several prior verbal warnings, Charles Lynton was at university well known as 'Miranda' a promiscuous cross dresser who played a guitar badly.
You're the first person to refer to this incident that I can find, I seem to recall he was found guilty twice, and couldn't even remember his own name. I think he made solicitor His wife was little better, she forgot to pay train fares, but commented that £1,500 was not a lot of reward to read court papers for a morning.
It's not mentioned on his wikipedia entry....airbrushed out?
Were there ever any fellow students who went to the press about it?
Someone give her some fucking water
It’s all downhill from there in and the forty year olds have a turn in governance
I once saw his portrait in a Hall, his lies followed you around the room.
Why isn't Blair doing the Tyburn jig?
Approximately 20 years left for majority of 60 years old men and women and quality of life as dementia is going to be up
COME BAAAAACK
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Someone give this woman a glass of water. Disturbing levels of mouth noise.
Had a quick scan through and couldn't see anyone punching him in the teeth, which I presume happened given the number of likes. Can anyone tell me where in the video it happened?
war criminals words carry no weight
shocking. he is a bare faced lair
Shocking that you can’t spell ! But maybe not given you have a low IQ
All the issues that he talks about regarding the EU, were the same before we joined. The EU will never change.
And the title of our tonight's show is: 'Tet a tet with a mass murderer'!
o it what in for me
I would much, much rather have this man and his cabinet back in power instead of these overrated, inept fools we have now who frankly couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery.
Totally agree
Exactly.
Some thing wrong with you this guy should be in prison end of
How was Trump washed in to this conversation
Mr B??
Neo Malthusian
No political figure in modern times has fascinated me more than Tony Blair.
The predictable anti Blair comments. What I want to know is why the economist got 2 British ex Labour politicians to rebut Bannon. Such a lack of imagination. Why not someone more avant garden like say Yannis Varoufakis?
War criminal
You’re an idiot
I wish Blair were still chief of the Labour Party - though I'm sure that Labour supporters wouldn't now choose him - pity.
war criminals need jailing
If this interview was taking place in a prison cell I would be happier
So for 45 yrs while in eu vast areas of UK have been ignored by all govts while paying in the eu and yet now they voted to leave there is a panic to acknowledge the issues. That says it all
The eu was a good idea but has been ruined because they just would not listen
I don't think it is funny.
This man can say nothing of value,except to himself,he'll be getting a large sum for this,NOBODYS LISTENING ( he needs a haircut)
And I bed he has dog breath ;)
Used all his political capital up for a wasteful war. Hid his religious zealotry. Could have done a lot of good but didn't
Wow, The Economist doesn't even pretend to be impartial. She keeps saying "we" when talking about Blair and Liberalism.
Maybe it's because there a Liberal Magazine
I have no idea why these people say with a war criminal and remained silent.
What a load of sheeps!
As a right winger who supports the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg as next prime minister I have to say that Tony Blair is right on many of the issues he spoke about such as immigration, integration, name calling etc. It’s a shame he never made these concerns available to his party when he was in power and accusing those who did speak about these things as bigots.
Jesus Christ! *Rees-Mogg?*
@@bennyy7434 whilst I may differ from him on policy, he has a style that many do not have. Some think because he’s male, not young, comes from money, speaks in a very respectful manner that he’s out of touch. Britain is big enough to cater for all types of personalities in parliament.
Amazing interviewer
Tony Blair doesn't understand Britain and its role in the world...neither does Corbyn incidentally.
Did a better job than BJ
The current PM looks like a dishevelled Col Saunders
Wow. Just wow. She really did let her emotions get the better of her. She's the worst interviewer I've ever seen.
They think you're right Blair. Tony 😂
Classical liberalism needs to replace the modern liberalism which has socialistic influences. Freedom over “equality” free is equal. Liberal doesn’t mean left wing, that is a stupid American misconception, liberalism is about freedom and we should focus on that rather than left vs right we should focus on authoritarians vs libertarians like myself.
Neoliberalism is a rightwing ideology and it was intended as such by its proponents in the Geneva School. It's goal was to maximise corporate strength and weaken organised labour. It also welcomed increased migration and the weakening of sovereignty in favour of institutions of global governance. Make no mistake, very little, if anything, about Blairism is socialist. He merely continued the neoliberal trends of the 1980s.
Well said Anthony. This misconception about the real meaning of liberalism has brought misunderstandings. Throughout history, liberalism has always been identified with the ideas of freedom and liberty.
Great snake oil salesman! Perhaps if he had governed in the way he talks eg on immigration we would not have had Brexit!
Nice to see war criminals get speaking gigs.
In May last year a poll found 72% of British people had an unfavourable opinion of Blair. That's pretty damning.
Awful presenter
1 Million souls Tony..........
The idea Tony Blair is left / Labour is laughable. Look at what he did and where he is now. Blair created Brexit and Corbyn....
How can the audience laugh with him? Do they have any soul? Or are paid to laugh?
This guy could make a good prime minister
Blair is a spent force.
He could hoodwink and beguile us all at one time but that was long ago.
War hero
Tony Blair a liberal?
Who are they kidding.
Jeremy Corbyn a remainer ?
Who us he kidding
"I think you will find, when death takes its toll all the money you made will never buy back your soul"- Bob Dylan.
That's a bit much coming from Bob Dylan who's not exactly poor
@@splinterbyrd Last time I checked, Dylan wasn't responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.
Nobody is responsible. There are countries that just want to fight rather that study and develop themselves.
Name them
But did he sell his soul to get that money?
Interview Cameron .See if he can put together a sentence!!
Firstly I like Tony Blair. He is a smart thinker.
Secondly this set up looks awkward. Why are they sitting so closely? Look how far the water is ? They have to walk over to get it. Mr Blair then needs to place his glass to the ground.
Poor stage management but simple solutions. I should be in show business.
I am a cobbler, in the shoe business but just one typo away from being in show business.
Tony, you are not the leader of people kind. LOL.
The interviewer looks a bit like Amber Rudd!
What really annoys me re the question about uncontrolled immigration is that the mechanism already exists in EU legislation to control that no UK Government has decided to implement it. Germany & Belgium have and they have a harder job of it because they're not Islands like us. If you can't prove you have work or have adequate funds to support you and your family you have to leave, same in Switzerland. UK governments past and present throw the immigration question around like confetti but they all know they've just been too lazy in the past and present to implement the policy that already exists.
You judge as a British. And there are global things.
Well I can tell you in Switzerland it’s not the way you describe here.
Oh yah, Germany did a greatttt job controllling immigration when they let in like 3 million migrants in the 2010s.
“Liberal” yeah right, gives true classical liberals a bad name.
The "True classical liberal" tag has become a meme at this point.
You think I spend a life time in politics and I'm gonna tell you what I really think?" - I like his honesty regarding the dishonest nature of politics. Would Boris ever be that honest about keeping the truth under wraps?? Ha ha......
disgusting intro. just makes it obvious this isn't anything serious i should concern myself with watching..
Populism is not rampant in Europe, some small states mimic Trump's right wing rhetoric, but Germany is still liberal, so without cooperating with Merkel, British opted to leave EU, almost like axing one's own feet.
Sorry, turned off after that intro. That presenter drove me mad. Imagine interviewing Tony Blair and not having the smaller ego? Amazing.
Did you squirt luv with that bias intro luv ?
He is the the worst War Wrime disaster the UK had in charge !
Bored with this obsession with TB on Iraq. He has lot of interesting stuff to say and made a big difference to the UK. I still remember the absolute relief when this generally moderate, rational person won the election and we escaped the Tories for a bit.
Agreed !
Absolutely.
Tony Blair is toxic. I understand that. And anything he says is likely to be attacked by people hurling abuse at him because of his record, especially on Iraq. Many of the comments on this thread bear witness to that.
But in a sense, that underlines one of the points he is making; you are not going to solve the problems the world faces unless you get back to a rational debate and are prepared to listen to people who disagree with you. Just because he made some terrible, tragic misjudgments does not necessarily mean that he has nothing of value to say on any subject.
A lot of what he says still makes a lot of sense - unfortunately, the words are coming out of the wrong mouth.
"A lot of what he says still makes a lot of sense - unfortunately, the words are coming out of the wrong mouth.
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The problem is he is a snake in the grass. His mouth is full of sweet words but their only purpose is to manipulate you and suck you in to his trap.
You are right. People need to get over themselves and listen to someone talking sense, as Blair almost always has.
@@dreamer2260 your deluded if you think this
Get this war criminal off the stage
Listen to what he says about Ukraine… four years before the Russian invasion!
People should be viewed upon by their achievements more than their failures.
Depends on how bad the failures are
I'm not sure all those dead in Iraq would agree. The public knew it was all a lie, and Blair did his utmost to bull-doze
through any opposition, because a decision had already been made to go to war regardless. He did not serve the British people, he was too interested in his own self-promotion, by ingratiating himself to the US military industrial complex, and all the zionists who have been forced into attacking Israel's enemies, because they had all been compromised by Epstein and Maxwell's sting operation on Love Island.
His achievements were failures except in the eyes of a few Oligarchs
Cringe and disgusting future