20:19 That's exactly what my 2014 Streetfighter 848 does, at about 6k and above at full throttle, the front wheel is coming off the ground whether you like it or not. The bike will let you know that you have selected cowabunga for your riding mode.
I had an 1198S. Sold it for a 1299S. Sold the 1299S for a 1098R which I’ll never sell. All incredible but nothing beats the character and rawness of the Testastretta and trellis frame bikes.
The 899-1299 have a major aero advantage over most bikes and especially the older ones, pop the fairings off and look at all the duct work and airflow trickery. The aero on the newer Ducati makes it feel slower due to less wind buffeting.
I think the comparison between the 1199 and the 1098 would be more closer to the truth about the progress ducati have. Here you have the newer little ducati and the older big ducati and i don't think this shows the reality. Or the 848 959 comparison. Love you guys! Waiting for the Booooosa!
Have an 1198s meshed into my 998, everything is 1198s apart from trellis frame and bodywork. It’s 173hp on the Dino and weighs 173kg (measured) with half a tank. Cracking bike to ride.
848/10/1198 are in my oppinion one of the most real superbikes you can buy, so much feedback and rawness... ive got a 848 evo with an microtek ecu/bitubo cartridge kit/ nemesis TC and a cordona QS, let me tell you if you can ride even higher powered bikes will struggle with you, the powerband and curve is just perfect for canyon rides and curve hunting.
Do you realize that the music you usually associate with Italian bikes is Neapolitan (southern Italy) while Bologna is in north Italy? It would be like presenting something from Detroit while playing the banjo
When I saw Josh Herrin post he'd be in a Ducati this year, I asked him to do this. A 1098s vs the new he's riding for the Super Sport class. I would even be willing to take my 1098s to North America Warhorse for Josh to have access to one.
I think the later generation Ducati's will suit perfectly someone that has come from Japanese bikes but the 1098 family is full blooded Italian,foibles,rough edges and all but arguably that makes them a more "involving" ride.
2005 Duc 999s is my fav daily ride. Trackwise I like the 1098s cause it does not have all the traction control stuff and still has the ducati twin with dry clutch sound. It's a harder bike to ride fast in the track, but the experience is 100% cause it's analog and puts the ownership to the rider and not the ECU.
Great comparison. I will say that no matter the displacement, the ‘small’ Ducatis are always designed to feel a specific way while the ‘big’ bikes are always far more animalistic. Would love to hear your thoughts on the 1199/1299 after riding these two.
I almost pulled the trigger on a monster 620i but then I thought, one more year and I can get the 848 at least, I think that if I go Ducati it should be neck deep, at least I have Ducati branded revit gloves 😅
If you get an 848 try to get a 2012 or 2013 Corsa. They have some nice upgrades over the standard 848 (quick shift, T/C, ohlins shock, bigger brakes). Try to stay away from the earlier 848 that doesn't have the evo engine.
@@yzfr6i I got last month a 2008 version of the 848 in pearl white , Huraaaaaaaaay!!!!! It's in quite good condition, lots of carbon and the TERMI!!!!! sounds like a beast, scares everyone out of their beds when I go to work, WAKE UP!!! :D has 21.800 Km done so I am already thinking about 24k service, desmo, belts, all fluids, fork, chain, etc... I saw a standard 24k cost with the list of things done for this bike, its 840 $, honestly, its not that bad and I got the bike at a good price, under the market, this bike may be an investment in the long run if I take care of it :D I know you said to stay away but all the evos are way too expensive, they are going into the panigale territory and it makes no sense ...also a higher compression engine is a more stressed engine with a lower lifespan. For me, this standard one did the trick just fine.
Love this channel!. I wish you guys would cover the cruiser style bikes as well. I’ve had spinal surgery so my dreams of riding a leader bike are over as they’re just too uncomfortable for me now :(
sport touring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cruiser
If you guys can get hold of an 848 and put it up against the 1098 that would be a great little brother vs big brother review. I own a 848 street and 848 Evo track bike, all the great 1098 idiosyncrasies but with almost none of the 1098 motor real world down sides. (Same grin factor but longer life expectancy, win win)
@@mmontero15 None on both, but I service both as required with quality oils and parts. Service intervals are longer than the book, time wise because of their ability and my lack of. Set the suspension up for you personally to get the most out of them, which is normally more than you can use. Bullet proof so far.
Got a 1098. Change the starting wires! You won't have starting problems like I did that's on the video. They put piss poor wires that cracks a heavy engine seriously. I haven't had a starting problem since then especially on cold mornings. Also use oem battery, no lithium shit.
I'd still take the old ones over the new ones. Sure the new ones are better in almost every way but my favorite Ducatis are 1098 and 1198 series. They were much more Ducati'ee than the newer ones.
Spite: Yam, $50 says you can’t work the ‘Word of the Day’ into today’s video Yam: Now Spite, you know I’m a country boy with like a 12 word vocabulary. What the hell word is it anyway? Spite: Frenetic Yam: Bet 😁
Quick $.02. You joke a little about “L-twin” vs “V-twin.” It’s not a difference in how the engine is mounted in the bike. L represents the 90 degree engine, while V represents any twin less than 90 degrees- like Harley at 60ish degrees. I own lots of bikes. The older 899 is one. If you had tested a 959 with at least a slip-on/ UpMap, I think your opinion on power/ throttle response would change. That upgrade takes the bike to a different level of engagement. My 899 has just as much “soul” as my 999. You guys rock. For real.
I have to agree. I have t800 upmap,Sprint air filter and full vandemon underbelly system and with 220lbs of me on it the front end lifts through 4th with no problem.
I loved the 1098 which IMO was a better bike than both the 1099 and 1199 which succeeded it, the 1098 had a lovely spread of power whereas the 1099 and in particular the 1199 were absolute beasts likely to spit you off if you gave it a bit too much throttle.
Yammi Broooo.... Let spite do another Harley, his soul is longing and craving a REEEEEEAL biiiike. He will probably perish if he doesn't straddle one soon for a vid.
I have 04 r6 and I love the body style way more then the current, front of the bike looks a little outdated but damn it looks so sleek and the back seat is 100 times more comfortable for passengers
I feel like you are of an unpopular opinion. But with how hardcore and edgy a lot of modern sport bikes are trying to look these days I can see why some people definitely prefer older design language.
959 for a guy that gets out of his beemer and likes to show of his duc , the 1098 is the guy that is a desmo fanatic and rides moutain passes for breakfast
These questions are irrelevant. Bikes like cars and houses are an emotional buy. Meaning you cannot be logical about it. Meaning BUY WHAT YOU WANT...and can afford. Anything else said by anyone else including your lord and savior Yammi here is just noise. Im not a classic guy but there are peeps out there that are and for them a classic is always best. For me new is always best. Its what ever you want man. WHO are you? Do you.
If you can ride, the vintage one is superior. Both have too much HP to be taken seriously as a street sportbike. But with Full Manual Mode, at least you have your dignity.
Y'all road two up and didn't film it?! I don't believe that. We know there's footage of that and we want to see it NOW or we'll never buy another one of those teeth biting ball shavers again !🤨
I get what your saying the 1098 is old shcool and a better bike in every respect than the 959 electronic gagets dont make you a better rider old shchool bikes are he best!
The 1098/848/1198 are the best looking bikes ever made imo.
I completely agree, undermount exhaust and single sided swing arm looks amazing
Yeah it's like a refreshed take on the 916 but still looks modern.
20:19
That's exactly what my 2014 Streetfighter 848 does, at about 6k and above at full throttle, the front wheel is coming off the ground whether you like it or not. The bike will let you know that you have selected cowabunga for your riding mode.
I miss my SF 848 for that reason but Imy r6 also still does that. I only weigh 135lbs lol
is exactly what you say bro!!!
I had an 1198S. Sold it for a 1299S. Sold the 1299S for a 1098R which I’ll never sell. All incredible but nothing beats the character and rawness of the Testastretta and trellis frame bikes.
The 899-1299 have a major aero advantage over most bikes and especially the older ones, pop the fairings off and look at all the duct work and airflow trickery. The aero on the newer Ducati makes it feel slower due to less wind buffeting.
True Biscotti Boi here 👌 🥖
I think the comparison between the 1199 and the 1098 would be more closer to the truth about the progress ducati have. Here you have the newer little ducati and the older big ducati and i don't think this shows the reality. Or the 848 959 comparison. Love you guys! Waiting for the Booooosa!
1198 not 1098
“I hope they always make a twin cylinder bike”
that sounds like Harley talk yam
Harley talk would be "They are *ONLY* allowed to make a twin cylinder bike"
Have an 1198s meshed into my 998, everything is 1198s apart from trellis frame and bodywork. It’s 173hp on the Dino and weighs 173kg (measured) with half a tank. Cracking bike to ride.
Thank you for this!
I've been begging for this, since the beginning! 💯
I’ve been checking the channel multiple times daily!! Can’t wait, Papa Yam!
My man, you do put in a lot effort. Pulling for ya on the big MILLION. Bet there will be a party the day/night you hit it!
848/10/1198 are in my oppinion one of the most real superbikes you can buy, so much feedback and rawness... ive got a 848 evo with an microtek ecu/bitubo cartridge kit/ nemesis TC and a cordona QS, let me tell you if you can ride even higher powered bikes will struggle with you, the powerband and curve is just perfect for canyon rides and curve hunting.
Sprag stater clutch, battery, alternator and regulator, all replaced on my 1098 after only 10k. Now starts regular
'08 a vintage? Man i feel old 😄
Thanks for another interesting comparison video 👍🏻
Do you realize that the music you usually associate with Italian bikes is Neapolitan (southern Italy) while Bologna is in north Italy? It would be like presenting something from Detroit while playing the banjo
Americans hear mandolin and think Italy, don't read too much into it.
@@millennialmalaise9386 that’s my point
Ur the best man love ur content
What I’d wanna see is the time difference on a track between these two Duc’s.
When I saw Josh Herrin post he'd be in a Ducati this year, I asked him to do this. A 1098s vs the new he's riding for the Super Sport class. I would even be willing to take my 1098s to North America Warhorse for Josh to have access to one.
You guys should do 916, 1098, and 1199 review
That's what I've been saying.
And, if they can get one, an on track session with a Supermono.
Sup guys! You gotta do a Suzuki intruder 1400 video... I have the 750... I think you guys would love this cruiser... 😎🤘
I love my panigale...
But the panigale spacers in the throttle are a must. But once set up the bike feels like an extension of oneself
Gonna win a bike that can’t start, that’s my kind of luck.
I think the later generation Ducati's will suit perfectly someone that has come from Japanese bikes but the 1098 family is full blooded Italian,foibles,rough edges and all but arguably that makes them a more "involving" ride.
Spite's a swedish death metal fan? Almost made me subscribe!
2005 Duc 999s is my fav daily ride. Trackwise I like the 1098s cause it does not have all the traction control stuff and still has the ducati twin with dry clutch sound. It's a harder bike to ride fast in the track, but the experience is 100% cause it's analog and puts the ownership to the rider and not the ECU.
I do think that the elimination of the cam belts on the panigale series is most important to owners.
Huge impact on ownership costs.
Def. Hence their popularity and sales in current time, they aren't that expensive of bikes to own anymore.
But man I love the 848 lol....
No love for the 999/749 😂
I love mines, and older Ducatis need the electrical upgrade kit. Start ups are a breeze.
I've always like the look of that gen. And I think it's got better with time.
Great comparison. I will say that no matter the displacement, the ‘small’ Ducatis are always designed to feel a specific way while the ‘big’ bikes are always far more animalistic. Would love to hear your thoughts on the 1199/1299 after riding these two.
Ducati 1098 is ❤ Love 😍 4ever 🎉
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sad 😢 part, its not in here...
it's a dream to have 1098. most beautiful bike ever.
I almost pulled the trigger on a monster 620i but then I thought, one more year and I can get the 848 at least, I think that if I go Ducati it should be neck deep, at least I have Ducati branded revit gloves 😅
If you get an 848 try to get a 2012 or 2013 Corsa. They have some nice upgrades over the standard 848 (quick shift, T/C, ohlins shock, bigger brakes). Try to stay away from the earlier 848 that doesn't have the evo engine.
@@yzfr6i I got last month a 2008 version of the 848 in pearl white , Huraaaaaaaaay!!!!! It's in quite good condition, lots of carbon and the TERMI!!!!! sounds like a beast, scares everyone out of their beds when I go to work, WAKE UP!!! :D has 21.800 Km done so I am already thinking about 24k service, desmo, belts, all fluids, fork, chain, etc... I saw a standard 24k cost with the list of things done for this bike, its 840 $, honestly, its not that bad and I got the bike at a good price, under the market, this bike may be an investment in the long run if I take care of it :D
I know you said to stay away but all the evos are way too expensive, they are going into the panigale territory and it makes no sense ...also a higher compression engine is a more stressed engine with a lower lifespan. For me, this standard one did the trick just fine.
I did try my m8's SuperSports tho is it that different from the similar 959? What's ya'll thoughts on a upright full faired Ducati?
Ducatis! My 1198S does the same thing. Sometimes it just doesn't want to start!
Love this channel!. I wish you guys would cover the cruiser style bikes as well. I’ve had spinal surgery so my dreams of riding a leader bike are over as they’re just too uncomfortable for me now :(
sport touring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cruiser
They've covered a few of them in the past, but not a ton. I hope you're recovering well
Yah they made the rebel 1100 look pretty good
If you guys can get hold of an 848 and put it up against the 1098 that would be a great little brother vs big brother review. I own a 848 street and 848 Evo track bike, all the great 1098 idiosyncrasies but with almost none of the 1098 motor real world down sides. (Same grin factor but longer life expectancy, win win)
How’s maintenance for the 848? Any major repairs?
@@mmontero15 None on both, but I service both as required with quality oils and parts. Service intervals are longer than the book, time wise because of their ability and my lack of. Set the suspension up for you personally to get the most out of them, which is normally more than you can use. Bullet proof so far.
Starter clutch gotta love it
I own a 08 848 , love the bike.. very vintage and soon to be a collectible... torque is crazy and the appeal of the bike is very eye catching.
Collectible?? Doubt that
Got a 1098. Change the starting wires! You won't have starting problems like I did that's on the video. They put piss poor wires that cracks a heavy engine seriously. I haven't had a starting problem since then especially on cold mornings. Also use oem battery, no lithium shit.
Hi....where can I get the starting wires you mentioned and which type? Thank u
I'd still take the old ones over the new ones. Sure the new ones are better in almost every way but my favorite Ducatis are 1098 and 1198 series. They were much more Ducati'ee than the newer ones.
The 959 sounds metallic. Probably runs much too lean on an even throttle. Explains the strange response on low revs too.....
A lot of duc’s sound like that, it’s the valves you’re hearing, not the fueling
I love my 959
*insert Borat's voice* Very nice!
Imagine 1098 vs 2022 panigale v4s
Spite's shirt is legendary.
Would love to own either bike.
I prefer the body style of the 1098.
I'd love to have one, in black, in my garage!
1098 and 1198 are absolutely amazing looking and performing bikes 👌👌💪
Helicopter helicopter
You should have the 919 in there too!
What bike would u guys use for a cross country ride?
2:53 "Did not wanna cooperate" *weak battery, not even dead* Trickle charger or bump start: "Am I a joke to you?"
I'm disappointed in the growth only 4k away come on boys...
Damn thinking about it now that might sound messed up🤷♂️
Spite: Yam, $50 says you can’t work the ‘Word of the Day’ into today’s video
Yam: Now Spite, you know I’m a country boy with like a 12 word vocabulary. What the hell word is it anyway?
Spite: Frenetic
Yam: Bet 😁
Two words ... TURRRRBO BOOOOOOSA
Ducati gets a lot of attention compared to its actual market share
Hey you know what's a great bike that starts every time.....my Honda 500r....😁
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@@hellfire08 😪 🐓🍭
Quick $.02. You joke a little about “L-twin” vs “V-twin.” It’s not a difference in how the engine is mounted in the bike. L represents the 90 degree engine, while V represents any twin less than 90 degrees- like Harley at 60ish degrees.
I own lots of bikes. The older 899 is one. If you had tested a 959 with at least a slip-on/ UpMap, I think your opinion on power/ throttle response would change. That upgrade takes the bike to a different level of engagement. My 899 has just as much “soul” as my 999. You guys rock. For real.
I have to agree. I have t800 upmap,Sprint air filter and full vandemon underbelly system and with 220lbs of me on it the front end lifts through 4th with no problem.
What about an 848 vs 959 comparison?
4K left BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Calling a 2008 vintage is dumb
Bruh 4k more subs until his first M
When are you giving away the 1098? Why don't you post giveaway dates clearly on your website!~
Turbo Hayabusa!!!!
what kind of mirrors are on 959?
Yo! Youre at a million WHERE IS THE BUSAAAAAA!!!!!
I HAVE A 1098 2008 WITH 1530 MILES ONLY , HOW MUCH I CAN GET IN THIS MARKET ?
Is the 1098 not working because it was on the stand?
I loved the 1098 which IMO was a better bike than both the 1099 and 1199 which succeeded it, the 1098 had a lovely spread of power whereas the 1099 and in particular the 1199 were absolute beasts likely to spit you off if you gave it a bit too much throttle.
1198?
Why not using 1199 or 1299 compare to 1098?
Yammi Broooo.... Let spite do another Harley, his soul is longing and craving a REEEEEEAL biiiike. He will probably perish if he doesn't straddle one soon for a vid.
4k to go!
Ducatis are so like Italians ‘I don’ta feel likea startino todayo it’s a to cold outasideio’
Ducati Nice bike how you getting home 😂🤣😂🤣
167F temps? That's nuts. Mine hovers around 100 max
@mazarbar mine was set to C! haha
24,000 on that beauty?!? I thought spite was gonna say 2,400
Want to know my opinion? One of them did start and one didn't.
When you compare sport bikes from the 90s to todays bikes, all the 90s bikes look so much better. The newer sport bikes all look a little homely.
I have 04 r6 and I love the body style way more then the current, front of the bike looks a little outdated but damn it looks so sleek and the back seat is 100 times more comfortable for passengers
@@whatnow9191 I’d take an early 90s GSXR over the MV any day.
I feel like you are of an unpopular opinion. But with how hardcore and edgy a lot of modern sport bikes are trying to look these days I can see why some people definitely prefer older design language.
@@JA-zh5xi shut up 😂😂😂
No single-sided rear swing arm?! Intolerable.
I had a 1098 and it left me stranded twice. Battery problems.
I guess your old when a 1098/999 are vintage motorcycles. I bought these bikes new. :(. What is a 998 considered?
NICE 1098
959 for a guy that gets out of his beemer and likes to show of his duc , the 1098 is the guy that is a desmo fanatic and rides moutain passes for breakfast
WANT TURBO BUSA!
You ask how much. I can't even afford maybe the change oil of one
Volkswagen owns Ducati. I'm not surprised the 1098 didn't start.
These questions are irrelevant. Bikes like cars and houses are an emotional buy. Meaning you cannot be logical about it. Meaning BUY WHAT YOU WANT...and can afford. Anything else said by anyone else including your lord and savior Yammi here is just noise. Im not a classic guy but there are peeps out there that are and for them a classic is always best. For me new is always best. Its what ever you want man. WHO are you? Do you.
Why the 959 and not the 1199?
Oh no foldable levers on a panigale.... come on now that's just sad.
Where’s the 916 Brah?
If you can ride, the vintage one is superior. Both have too much HP to be taken seriously as a street sportbike. But with Full Manual Mode, at least you have your dignity.
on the 959 you can actually turn everything off.
If you don't have to wear a diaper riding the bike, it is the wrong bike. :D
Y'all road two up and didn't film it?! I don't believe that. We know there's footage of that and we want to see it NOW or we'll never buy another one of those teeth biting ball shavers again !🤨
1098 ALL THE WAY. It's so much better looking, and it's analogue in the best way possible.
Set my 1198 up analog with the microtec ecu and custom dyno.
ducati 1098 is more fancy more superbike than the panigalle.
996K: what do you mean by a blown engine??? YOu blew up the TURBOBUSA already????????????????????????????????????
Should have used an 1199
Wet clutch ANY day of the week. Sorry, it's just not worth the hassle for a street bike.
You couldn't get the 1098 started?? That's not good news for us that want to win it? Maybe it should be serviced again. Fix It Again Tony!
1098 is a rock star 959 is a star
996
Why does the script sound like it was made before the v4 was released?
And I like how Yammie was doing 70+ in a 30 Zone
I get what your saying the 1098 is old shcool and a better bike in every respect than the 959 electronic gagets dont make you a better rider old shchool bikes are he best!