So much thanks for the effort in gathering up all this footage, putting it together, and uploading for us. Your channel has been my go-to for Tube/DL footage for many years.
+ecxpac Thanks for watching and your support. Although the amount of unused historic footage remaining is running down I still a little more yet to come.
Another question: I'm intrigued by the location of the original Heron Quays station. I think it was probably located just north of the current station, where the road currently is between the building that houses the new Heron Quays station and the dock itself. Is that correct? If so, was the road there at the time? How did you get into the station? I think the distance between the old Heron Quays station and Canary Wharf DLR station must have been the shortest between two stations on the entire network, whereas now it looks like West India Quay is slightly closer to Canary Wharf.
+Andy JS I can answer part of your question in a way which you may not have expected! Please see this film... ruclips.net/video/4pVawD2l1I0/видео.html :-) However I am not sure about road layouts and I tended to avoid them. I stayed on the trains.
+citytransportinfo Thanks very much. You can tell the station is a bit nearer to Canary Wharf but I'd probably need to see the journey in the opposite direction to know exactly where it was. Maybe there's more footage on the internet somewhere.
Although I like the sleek design of Canary Wharf and Stratford I prefer stations like tower gateway in there old design, much more colourful and much more full of life. Tower gateway now isn’t sleek and modern nor is it really colourful, it’s like a half job or painting it all grey and leaving it at that
At 8:53 you can see something that looks a bit like the London Eye in the background but it must be something else. What is it? I also noticed it when I was on the DLR a few days ago when it was lit up red.
+dennis trident william oh and also, I filmed this over several weeks, whilst passing through the station - I did not spend too long on any one day as I needed to complete each journey before the Oyster PAYG journey time limit meant that I would be charged extra.
+hakc97again It still does - in the morning rush hours! But I assume that DLR management feel that the frequency of trains to Bank is sufficient. Canary Wharf station offers extremely good interchange between trains to / from Stratford and trains to / from Lewisham. Trains open their doors on both sides and the simple cross platform interchange is fully accessible.
) lighter weight (compared to 'heavy rail') so that bridges can be designed for lower mass / less heavy rolling stock (hence lower construction costs) and able to negotiate sharper curves shorter trains also mean that station platforms are shorter, hence cheaper to build (even if underground) often a design that is 'street compatible' - the first DLR trains (P86 and P89) were later sold to Essen in Germany and after adding a driver's cab plus adapting for overhead wire power supply (instead of third rail) they are used on routes that include sections of street tramway ... yes, roads shared with cars, lorries, cyclists, etc.
+Daniil Trokhimenko Not all routes can go to all destinations - there would be too many trains! Anyway, its easy enough to change trains enroute, as one only has to wait on the platform. The same applies to trains from Stratford - none of which go to either Bank or Tower Gateway. Instead passengers must change trains at either Poplar or Canary Wharf - both are easy cross platform interchanges / no steps required.
+citytransportinfo yeah but if you change trains you have to wait for about 6 minutes and anyway, that would be nice if they reinstated all original routes
+Daniil Trokhimenko ah but the original routes were only Stratford - Island Gardens and Tower Gateway - Island Gardens. Trains never normally travelled directly between Stratford and Tower Gateway - passengers had to change at West India Quay.
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So much thanks for the effort in gathering up all this footage, putting it together, and uploading for us. Your channel has been my go-to for Tube/DL footage for many years.
+ecxpac Thanks for watching and your support.
Although the amount of unused historic footage remaining is running down I still a little more yet to come.
Another question: I'm intrigued by the location of the original Heron Quays station. I think it was probably located just north of the current station, where the road currently is between the building that houses the new Heron Quays station and the dock itself. Is that correct? If so, was the road there at the time? How did you get into the station? I think the distance between the old Heron Quays station and Canary Wharf DLR station must have been the shortest between two stations on the entire network, whereas now it looks like West India Quay is slightly closer to Canary Wharf.
+Andy JS
I can answer part of your question in a way which you may not have expected! Please see this film...
ruclips.net/video/4pVawD2l1I0/видео.html :-)
However I am not sure about road layouts and I tended to avoid them. I stayed on the trains.
+citytransportinfo Thanks very much. You can tell the station is a bit nearer to Canary Wharf but I'd probably need to see the journey in the opposite direction to know exactly where it was. Maybe there's more footage on the internet somewhere.
It was move just next to its original location. This was done to extend the plateform.
Although I like the sleek design of Canary Wharf and Stratford I prefer stations like tower gateway in there old design, much more colourful and much more full of life. Tower gateway now isn’t sleek and modern nor is it really colourful, it’s like a half job or painting it all grey and leaving it at that
CityTransportInfo: do you know the precise dates when the DLR first had 2 carriage trains, and 3 carriage trains?
+Andy JS
Sorry no. Do you belong to any chat forums? It could be that by asking someone will know the answer
At 8:53 you can see something that looks a bit like the London Eye in the background but it must be something else. What is it? I also noticed it when I was on the DLR a few days ago when it was lit up red.
+Andy JS It probably is the London Eye. Its the wrong shape to be the Orbit at Stratford, and I cant think of anything else!
+citytransportinfo its Orbital in Stratford Olympic Park
I don't really like the trains going around delta junction it's so loud it's like an earrape
So is your hairline
@Fried Soda wohahahahahaha
how did you get so many footage of the same train fro different angles at the same time
+dennis trident william
Actually its different trains but when the rolling stock looks the same so it looks like the same train!
+dennis trident william
oh and also, I filmed this over several weeks, whilst passing through the station - I did not spend too long on any one day as I needed to complete each journey before the Oyster PAYG journey time limit meant that I would be charged extra.
Why did they stop the Stratford service going all the way down to Lewisham?
+hakc97again It still does - in the morning rush hours!
But I assume that DLR management feel that the frequency of trains to Bank is sufficient. Canary Wharf station offers extremely good interchange between trains to / from Stratford and trains to / from Lewisham. Trains open their doors on both sides and the simple cross platform interchange is fully accessible.
@@CitytransportInfoplus That's the Tokyo Style Cross Platform Action I'm talking about!!!
How is this "light" when it's bigger than tube and almost the same size as NR trains...?
) lighter weight (compared to 'heavy rail') so that bridges can be designed for lower mass / less heavy rolling stock (hence lower construction costs) and able to negotiate sharper curves
shorter trains also mean that station platforms are shorter, hence cheaper to build (even if underground)
often a design that is 'street compatible' - the first DLR trains (P86 and P89) were later sold to Essen in Germany and after adding a driver's cab plus adapting for overhead wire power supply (instead of third rail) they are used on routes that include sections of street tramway ... yes, roads shared with cars, lorries, cyclists, etc.
These trains are a lot shorter than on the underground
I thought that trains to and from tower gateway and Lewisham had to pass through popular before canary wharf
+London buses and trains 123
if they did that they would have to reverse their direction of travel at Poplar.
I miss the p86 and p89’s
I do to they look very smart trains when the doors open it's like it's a bus
@Fanf Ikr
Wonder why the don't run services to Lewisham from Tower Gateway
+Daniil Trokhimenko Not all routes can go to all destinations - there would be too many trains! Anyway, its easy enough to change trains enroute, as one only has to wait on the platform. The same applies to trains from Stratford - none of which go to either Bank or Tower Gateway. Instead passengers must change trains at either Poplar or Canary Wharf - both are easy cross platform interchanges / no steps required.
+citytransportinfo yeah but if you change trains you have to wait for about 6 minutes and anyway, that would be nice if they reinstated all original routes
+Daniil Trokhimenko ah but the original routes were only Stratford - Island Gardens and Tower Gateway - Island Gardens. Trains never normally travelled directly between Stratford and Tower Gateway - passengers had to change at West India Quay.
+citytransportinfo Fine. But live near Tower Gateway and now trains go to Beckton only. It's kind of ridiculous to have the tracks but not use them
Eg