Thanks to @:/Silence for doing the testing! Give the man a subscribe on his YT! ruclips.net/channel/UCAPySM5jFXeIxsPLUsFL9kw Time stamps: 0:00 - beginning 0:40 - Booster 1:25 - Adrenaline 2:42 - Bombardier 4:17 - Temper 5:08 - Marksman 5:57 - Shifter 6:25 - Super Dango Recovery
The super dango recovery description is opposite in Japanese and English. The Japanese one matches how it behaves, saying that it procs when a monster can't see you, so it's looking like a translation error, not a bug.
Man, Japanese companies really need to hire better localization teams/translators, and seemingly not just for games as I’ve seen a lot of manga readers complaining about inaccurate or misleading translations. A shame really. I just wanna know what was originally written.
@@mkv2718 honestly it's the only error that's jumped out at me after 50 hours of Sunbreak playing it in both languages. And it's an easy mistake to make, if you mix up whether they're referring to the player or the monster not being seen yet. Meanwhile they've done a great job translating all the flavor and puns in the various quest descriptions 👍
@@mkv2718 it's just a mistake. Overall the translation is pretty good. Capcom is Japanese but most of their recent games are already targeted to global audience.
@@mkv2718 Japanese is very hard to translate to English. Japanese is a highly contextual language, a slight oversight can completely ruin the sentence. In Japanese, you can omit pronouns (he, she, it .etc) it takes much more effort to translate things which make for a bigger room of error. Another thing is cultural difference, culture in Asia is very different than that of the west, a lot of concepts are missing in western languages, it would be a nightmare to translate those. As someone who can speak Japanese, translating it is not as simple as checking the dictionary to put the appropriate words, Google can do that for you, but rather a process of understanding and rewriting.
THANK YOU for doing this. Dango food skills are one of those things on a hunt you can easily overlook/undervalue. I thought adrenaline was 1.35x damage but it's good to know its 1.25x at rank 1 then 1.30x for the rest of the ranks.
i love the Spiritbird dango Lv4 - with the "spiritbird call" skill and the spirtitbird rampage skill ^^' and you have full life bar, full stamina bar, full defense and attack from the "petalace" in 1m30 ^^' Very confi !!!
In world "discovery" meant when the you were in the range that the monster had a "purple" eye icon. In Rise it's not present, but monsters still do behave in a way where they where they have the "discovery range". You might for example be able to approach a monster from behind and get the regen, while anjanath is trying to "sniff you out". that said, if it IS a translation error and only works when monsters CANT see you, then it doesn't even utilize the discovery state monster have, at all. This would mean that you wouldn't get health regen when hidden from monsters that are close by.
Lotta people sleepin on Dango Driver. Lvl 4 driver leaves what seems to be 90% of damage taken as red health. We aren't doing super meta builds/runs, but it's super nice that in the 90% chance it procs, you essentially turn gourmet fish into a full heal item that also gives recovery over time. We have a ride range SnS player on the squad, everyone eats for driver, and then he can speed eat free meal fish at will as the party-heal. Sure, heal powders are free with amiibos, but /anyone/ can cook up some fish, and then you have 10 powders per mission (=
The reason for the extra defense with adrenaline is probably for dealing with chip damage when behind a shield instead of just straight up tanking a hit. Anyhow, thanks for this info, been wondering this info, especially after I noticed how the temper steadiness changes when I had it at level 3. But again, great vid, been wanting this info since day 1! I forget tho, do temper and marksman stack?
Super recovery Dango getting the Narwa Ibushi Soul effect treatment I see. Idk why translation cant communicate with testing, considering this type of stuff happened in base Rise.
Wow I got to the same super dango recovery + gourmet fish conclusion just experimenting yesterday lol, also if you have 1 recovery up deco you heal even more HP with the dango and the fish, andif you have 2 you don't lose health at all, although you sacrifice the resenment buff for comfort.
I use the wirebug evade to quick sheathe. I've found you can toss flash bombs after the evade while you're mid air so it's a stylish way to ground any flyer.
felyne medic and the recovery up armor skill both affect the regens from gourmet fish and super recovery dango, making them go from 60% of dereliction to 90% of dereliction, it's almost so good that resentment might be in trouble!
Marksman lvl4 should be an increase of .5% damage over lvl3, given you shoot enough times for RNG to settle around average values, with shorter hunts favoring the increased odds of lvl3. The difference is so small though that I'd decide based on what other Dango slot I need rather that the minuscule damage variation. The actual mathematical best decision really boils down to how the game handles decimal rounding, because 5%, 10%, .5% for damage numbers under 100 could translate to being lost somewhere in the damage formula.
I just made one today, got a 3800 damage wakeup hit, felt so damn good. With really good sticky 3 too, so I can KO the monster for safer wyverns. Pair that with 2 palamutes with sleep silkbinders for 3-4 sleeps per hunt and you can really bring the pain man
Haven't done gunner yet in Sunbreak, but even Dango Feet being level 1 Flinch Free is super helpful to me as due to not cheating talismans I'm usually a 1 slot away from super efficient Element attack 5 on my swax, which I would then regain through feet. Will give it a shot later (and gunning again but new shiny counters are fun!)
I've been sleeping on SDR! About to make an Archfiend LBG build with Dereliction and try it out. Thanks for the good work and I'll throw Silence a sub.
LVL 3 Booster also only lasts 8 minutes. Did the testing. Lvl1&2: 10 minutes, Lvl 3&4: 8 minutes. Posted a sheet and am working with the community on the details regarding all Dangos, if anyone is looking for more info on them: www.reddit.com/r/MHRise/comments/vz6baj/mhr_sunbreak_know_your_dango_dango_skill_sheet/?context=3
Something to note: dereliction leaves your hp as recoverable (red). Gourmet fish also heals the red portion of the gauge...which makes super dango recovery a bit irrelevant outside combat imo. Granted, I need to test if it'll heal a fully red bar (1hp left) as I tend to use it sooner.
Monsters have always had an "alert mode". It's basically a window of time the monster senses you but if you run out of its detection zone, it will not aggro you. In Rise, I believe it's when the monster has a yellow eye. Yellow eye = Alert, Red Eye = Detected/Aggro, Purple = Fleeing. What I'm getting at is that Super Dango Recovery 1-3 probably works when it has a yellow eye or any time after it first aggros you but doesn't have a red eye.
I always finds it funny how our Kamura hunter only got, like what, 9 colorful sticky rice balls as hunt prep. While all previous hunters feast like a king before the hunts lmao
For the elemental dango set, won't it be better to take temper 3? Although you don't gain much, but at least it's better than adrenaline. Since you won't proc it for a long time with super recovery+ fish.
For anyone wondering: Marksman has the highest damage increase at LVL 4. LVL 3 gives an avarage of 3.5% more damage and level 4 gives and avarage of 4% more damage, so don't fall for Angbatas lies!
it's not a lie, it's just that in probabilities 70% will always be better than 40% it's not even a 1/2 chance to get the 10% boost damages but sure be this kind of guy, i bet u are fun at parties.
@@ClassicThermite i just showed good sense and used my brain to demonstrate u are wrong and only did this either because misinformate or to get attention.
@@charlybanquet5388 I genuinely can not figure out what you are trying to say. Are you trying to disprove my math as in LVL 4 has a higher damage output than LVL3 or is it something else? Why are you personally insulting me and bring up your own intelligence? I encourge you to do the math yourself and see what result you come up with and share it here, i would love to discuss it or be proven wrong.
@@ClassicThermite ok let me say it for you 3/4 is better than less than 1/2 right ? so why would be 40% for only 5% more raw would be better than +30% to get 5% raw more frequently ? i let you have some common sense and use ur brain on this one, u cannot use math to talk about probabilities all math teacher and smart people will say the same thing.
Thanks to @:/Silence for doing the testing! Give the man a subscribe on his YT!
ruclips.net/channel/UCAPySM5jFXeIxsPLUsFL9kw
Time stamps:
0:00 - beginning
0:40 - Booster
1:25 - Adrenaline
2:42 - Bombardier
4:17 - Temper
5:08 - Marksman
5:57 - Shifter
6:25 - Super Dango Recovery
I don't know if the link is wrong but it says the channel doesn't exist
@@aLittleStoned thank you for telling me!
is Good luck skill / Good luck dango affect talisman result in any way? 😔
been playing Talisman hunter for the last 200H
What's a good hopping dongo set up for rapid slicing build?
@@Mackenziethingy marksman lv 4 ?
the rest are utilities
The super dango recovery description is opposite in Japanese and English. The Japanese one matches how it behaves, saying that it procs when a monster can't see you, so it's looking like a translation error, not a bug.
yeh mustve been translation error
Man, Japanese companies really need to hire better localization teams/translators, and seemingly not just for games as I’ve seen a lot of manga readers complaining about inaccurate or misleading translations. A shame really. I just wanna know what was originally written.
@@mkv2718 honestly it's the only error that's jumped out at me after 50 hours of Sunbreak playing it in both languages. And it's an easy mistake to make, if you mix up whether they're referring to the player or the monster not being seen yet.
Meanwhile they've done a great job translating all the flavor and puns in the various quest descriptions 👍
@@mkv2718 it's just a mistake. Overall the translation is pretty good. Capcom is Japanese but most of their recent games are already targeted to global audience.
@@mkv2718 Japanese is very hard to translate to English. Japanese is a highly contextual language, a slight oversight can completely ruin the sentence. In Japanese, you can omit pronouns (he, she, it .etc) it takes much more effort to translate things which make for a bigger room of error. Another thing is cultural difference, culture in Asia is very different than that of the west, a lot of concepts are missing in western languages, it would be a nightmare to translate those. As someone who can speak Japanese, translating it is not as simple as checking the dictionary to put the appropriate words, Google can do that for you, but rather a process of understanding and rewriting.
THANK YOU for doing this. Dango food skills are one of those things on a hunt you can easily overlook/undervalue. I thought adrenaline was 1.35x damage but it's good to know its 1.25x at rank 1 then 1.30x for the rest of the ranks.
i love the Spiritbird dango Lv4 - with the "spiritbird call" skill and the spirtitbird rampage skill ^^' and you have full life bar, full stamina bar, full defense and attack from the "petalace" in 1m30 ^^'
Very confi !!!
I see. I never looked into collecting birds
In world "discovery" meant when the you were in the range that the monster had a "purple" eye icon. In Rise it's not present, but monsters still do behave in a way where they where they have the "discovery range". You might for example be able to approach a monster from behind and get the regen, while anjanath is trying to "sniff you out".
that said, if it IS a translation error and only works when monsters CANT see you, then it doesn't even utilize the discovery state monster have, at all. This would mean that you wouldn't get health regen when hidden from monsters that are close by.
Thanks! I actually love the way you present info, it's so easy to digest.
thank you so much!!!! I NEEDED THIS!!!
Lotta people sleepin on Dango Driver. Lvl 4 driver leaves what seems to be 90% of damage taken as red health. We aren't doing super meta builds/runs, but it's super nice that in the 90% chance it procs, you essentially turn gourmet fish into a full heal item that also gives recovery over time. We have a ride range SnS player on the squad, everyone eats for driver, and then he can speed eat free meal fish at will as the party-heal.
Sure, heal powders are free with amiibos, but /anyone/ can cook up some fish, and then you have 10 powders per mission (=
thx so much for the testing!
Amazing content as always. Helpful for beginners and you always listen to your subscribers. xoxo
Thank you for this video.
It was really helpful
Seems like you read my comment in another video to make this one - THANK YOU SO MUCH! 😍
The reason for the extra defense with adrenaline is probably for dealing with chip damage when behind a shield instead of just straight up tanking a hit.
Anyhow, thanks for this info, been wondering this info, especially after I noticed how the temper steadiness changes when I had it at level 3. But again, great vid, been wanting this info since day 1!
I forget tho, do temper and marksman stack?
Thank you soo much for this info dump, Im literally confuse which dango food to pick
This is good shiet. Appreciated for the info.
Super recovery Dango getting the Narwa Ibushi Soul effect treatment I see.
Idk why translation cant communicate with testing, considering this type of stuff happened in base Rise.
Wow I got to the same super dango recovery + gourmet fish conclusion just experimenting yesterday lol, also if you have 1 recovery up deco you heal even more HP with the dango and the fish, andif you have 2 you don't lose health at all, although you sacrifice the resenment buff for comfort.
This is super helpful, thanks. 😊👍
I been using Super recovery 4 with lance and its pretty good when your sheath speed is slow and get poisoned or burned.
I use the wirebug evade to quick sheathe. I've found you can toss flash bombs after the evade while you're mid air so it's a stylish way to ground any flyer.
felyne medic and the recovery up armor skill both affect the regens from gourmet fish and super recovery dango, making them go from 60% of dereliction to 90% of dereliction, it's almost so good that resentment might be in trouble!
If you’re only getting damage from dereliction and not resentment it may be okay for certain setups
One thing I'd like to know about is defender (hi) vs defender. Which one would prevent more damage over the course of a hunt?
Marksman lvl4 should be an increase of .5% damage over lvl3, given you shoot enough times for RNG to settle around average values, with shorter hunts favoring the increased odds of lvl3.
The difference is so small though that I'd decide based on what other Dango slot I need rather that the minuscule damage variation.
The actual mathematical best decision really boils down to how the game handles decimal rounding, because 5%, 10%, .5% for damage numbers under 100 could translate to being lost somewhere in the damage formula.
dango shifter for dual blade is awesome. it gives you twice the heal when in demon mode
WHERES IT AT ANG. WHERE ARE YOU HIDING THE GREATSWORD WYVERN SHOT WYVERNSNIPE HBG BUILD HUH? Thanks for your continued videos.
I just made one today, got a 3800 damage wakeup hit, felt so damn good. With really good sticky 3 too, so I can KO the monster for safer wyverns. Pair that with 2 palamutes with sleep silkbinders for 3-4 sleeps per hunt and you can really bring the pain man
Haven't done gunner yet in Sunbreak, but even Dango Feet being level 1 Flinch Free is super helpful to me as due to not cheating talismans I'm usually a 1 slot away from super efficient Element attack 5 on my swax, which I would then regain through feet.
Will give it a shot later (and gunning again but new shiny counters are fun!)
I've been sleeping on SDR! About to make an Archfiend LBG build with Dereliction and try it out. Thanks for the good work and I'll throw Silence a sub.
So booster isn’t worth eating? You don’t eat it for any hunts? Even at level 4???
Hhi there.
Fabulous content!
any idea if dango temper works for bows?
many thanks
What about the weakener dango? Is it worth eating?
LVL 3 Booster also only lasts 8 minutes. Did the testing. Lvl1&2: 10 minutes, Lvl 3&4: 8 minutes.
Posted a sheet and am working with the community on the details regarding all Dangos, if anyone is looking for more info on them: www.reddit.com/r/MHRise/comments/vz6baj/mhr_sunbreak_know_your_dango_dango_skill_sheet/?context=3
Thanks!
Would item prolonger work on gourmet fish?
Thx for the tips m8. Btw did you consider making a video how Rising moon//Setting sun work with every ammo?
Dango Bulker, Dango Shifter, and Dango Deflector
what about weakener + reviver
Ang can you tell me if Kushala's Blessing and Super Dango Recovery stack or are they the same effect?
How do you apply levels on dango?
this is very helpful
Does recovery up affect super recovery dango?
so only Marksman will be useful for Slice ammo? ;_;
Does weakener still matter in Master Rank?
It does when you do the posting
hi, hbg normal 3 is it good or not ?
What about slice ammo bis food setup?
pretty much just Booster for the raw damage, then 2 comfort / defense dangos, whatever you want really
was the part about gourmet fish a scarsm joke? or is it actually good
gourmetfish is good
slicing goes to spread/pierce/normal dango set right?
nope. slicing not affected by temper or marksman
dango lv 3/4 is like a trap for adrenaline as it also heals you beyond the threshold hp lol
Something to note: dereliction leaves your hp as recoverable (red). Gourmet fish also heals the red portion of the gauge...which makes super dango recovery a bit irrelevant outside combat imo.
Granted, I need to test if it'll heal a fully red bar (1hp left) as I tend to use it sooner.
…. Super dango recovery 4 recovers health outside red - making it relevant outside and inside combat.
No stream? What happened to vid?
I didn't wake up rofl will stream later at night
@@AngBata11 He is talking about not being able to watch the video. I get the same error message ‚no stream‘ and cannot watch the Video
@@AngBata11 likewise
Same
@@nisonsei5005 wtf
So you don’t eat for booster or think it’s worth eating for the extra Dps in hunts?
Better to keep it at lower levels when you eat for it
Monsters have always had an "alert mode". It's basically a window of time the monster senses you but if you run out of its detection zone, it will not aggro you. In Rise, I believe it's when the monster has a yellow eye. Yellow eye = Alert, Red Eye = Detected/Aggro, Purple = Fleeing. What I'm getting at is that Super Dango Recovery 1-3 probably works when it has a yellow eye or any time after it first aggros you but doesn't have a red eye.
What if we don't want to play Adrenaline instead we utillize booster for sticky is it worth it ?
if you are confident enough you won’t die then go for it :)
@@AngBata11 Hehe boi, wouldn't using adrenaline is the same that you confident you won't die >:)
I always finds it funny how our Kamura hunter only got, like what, 9 colorful sticky rice balls as hunt prep. While all previous hunters feast like a king before the hunts lmao
(joke) they're incredibly nutritionally dense. you shit a fucking brick afterwards.
Wished there was a dango for anjanath mantle drop rate 96 kills only 1 mantle. Lame
For the elemental dango set, won't it be better to take temper 3? Although you don't gain much, but at least it's better than adrenaline. Since you won't proc it for a long time with super recovery+ fish.
I’m a greedy person. Greedy people get punished by getting smacked. I want to be prepared for that smack
Tnx
Ah finally first 🙏🏾🫡
man why are we doing math? i just wanna eat my dangos...
Don't even know thay have levels, lol
For anyone wondering: Marksman has the highest damage increase at LVL 4. LVL 3 gives an avarage of 3.5% more damage and level 4 gives and avarage of 4% more damage, so don't fall for Angbatas lies!
it's not a lie, it's just that in probabilities 70% will always be better than 40% it's not even a 1/2 chance to get the 10% boost damages but sure be this kind of guy, i bet u are fun at parties.
@@charlybanquet5388 ??????????What??????
@@ClassicThermite i just showed good sense and used my brain to demonstrate u are wrong and only did this either because misinformate or to get attention.
@@charlybanquet5388 I genuinely can not figure out what you are trying to say. Are you trying to disprove my math as in LVL 4 has a higher damage output than LVL3 or is it something else? Why are you personally insulting me and bring up your own intelligence? I encourge you to do the math yourself and see what result you come up with and share it here, i would love to discuss it or be proven wrong.
@@ClassicThermite ok let me say it for you 3/4 is better than less than 1/2 right ?
so why would be 40% for only 5% more raw would be better than +30% to get 5% raw more frequently ?
i let you have some common sense and use ur brain on this one, u cannot use math to talk about probabilities all math teacher and smart people will say the same thing.
1nd
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