Ongama Mtimka: ‘GNU’, ANC-DA, Jacob Zuma & MK Party, Julius Malema & EFF, Floyd Shivambu, Ndlozi

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

Комментарии • 232

  • @_SMWX
    @_SMWX  Месяц назад +68

    SMWX ain’t playing in 2024. 😁🙌🏽🙏🏽
    Let’s also subscribe to Ongama’s new channel: youtube.com/@thed.e.p-d7y?si=FuLxUydFGuLFVcbM

    • @TBang25
      @TBang25 Месяц назад +4

      Definitely not!!😅

    • @ralebekomaine6894
      @ralebekomaine6894 Месяц назад +2

      @@TBang25 🥵🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @Mqondisi101
      @Mqondisi101 Месяц назад +1

      We are spreading the fire🔥 🔥 ...keep up the good work Dr Sizwe

    • @mninawamavuso3816
      @mninawamavuso3816 Месяц назад +1

      It’s rough..Mainstream is feeling the pinch

    • @princesimelane3375
      @princesimelane3375 Месяц назад +1

      Please get Dj Fresh,Botsang I would like their input in the recent events in our politics, ayeye.

  • @ziphozulu2969
    @ziphozulu2969 Месяц назад +78

    The 1st interview to clock a million on this channel is going to be Mbuyiseni Ndlozi's interview believe me 😅, we ready for him to come here

  • @davidramusi8150
    @davidramusi8150 Месяц назад +60

    Just finished watching the Darren Campher episode and barely an hour later,another one worth a watch. Gotta love SMWX

    • @_SMWX
      @_SMWX  Месяц назад +3

      Ayeye!

    • @BachelorMaree-mw2ow
      @BachelorMaree-mw2ow Месяц назад +1

      It's really great, it reminds of seeing professor Lumumba switching from English to Swahili when he gets emotional

    • @jibaskillsacdemy
      @jibaskillsacdemy Месяц назад +1

      Greate channel i must say...

    • @fego2361
      @fego2361 23 дня назад

      Watch the Campher interview again, his a damn hypocritic

  • @mbulelondzala3724
    @mbulelondzala3724 Месяц назад +47

    We need Gogo Matshiqi back on the show before the year ends.

  • @siyamdluli
    @siyamdluli Месяц назад +15

    Dr. Mtimka's analogies are so intellectually spot-on. The rugby squad leader👏, the Biblical Saul-David scenario👏. And Dr Sizwe likening the SA political stability or instability to a Tsunami which has happened, but its consequences are yet to be seen. Brilliant minds.🔥🔥🔥

  • @mabatosemoli4225
    @mabatosemoli4225 Месяц назад +20

    Jonga this week nje from Samkele then Darren and today you finished us ngo Dr Mtika 👏👏👏❤. Thank you 🙏

  • @sammylu4702
    @sammylu4702 Месяц назад +71

    Let’s sign the register guys ✅: present teacher

  • @biko8229
    @biko8229 Месяц назад +16

    Wow thanks SMWX, apart from his brilliant political acumen we also love the work Prof Mtimka does in agricultural development in the EC👌🏾

    • @RuriRuri24
      @RuriRuri24 Месяц назад

      May he then be called to discuss his practical , handson contribution to people from this academic

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Месяц назад

      There is agriculturist development in the EC ?

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Месяц назад +1

      Can you provide a source for your claim that EC has the most livestock ?
      As a regular liar I take your statement with a pinch of salt.
      However , if they have so much livestock , why are they so poor ?
      How much commercial farming happens in the EC and who does it ?

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 Месяц назад

      @@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Don't be lazy to do research. Of the 9 provinces, EC boasts the highest number of livestock.
      We fully comprehend the challenge apartheid beneficiaries might have in accepting certain realities about SA.

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Месяц назад +1

      @@biko8229 So typical of you.
      You put out statements but can't back them up with facts.
      The Transkei has been apartheid free for 50 years yet it is the poorest region in the country.
      It seems like SA benefited from the apartheid government but Transkei got left behind without it.

  • @Brantley_ZA
    @Brantley_ZA Месяц назад +8

    We absolutely need another podcast to tackle everything said from 50:00... That was brilliant podcasting 🥺🔥

  • @nothandomthimkhulu2321
    @nothandomthimkhulu2321 Месяц назад +14

    The channel is working overtime watched yesterdays episode his morning, as I finish that the next episode is up, its getting hard to keep. The hard work is appreciated AYEYE.

  • @thamimahlangabeza6639
    @thamimahlangabeza6639 Месяц назад +5

    Dr. Sizwe, you certainly respect your subscribers enough to have credible who have authority on the subjects of the day. For that, I THANK YOU MOST HEARTEDLY!!!

  • @DanRam-gg6wt
    @DanRam-gg6wt Месяц назад +11

    Morning Dr Mpofu, please bring Xolani Duve from Xubera Institute. Brilliant show❤❤❤❤❤

  • @BachelorMaree-mw2ow
    @BachelorMaree-mw2ow Месяц назад +4

    I really hope Sizwe realizes how much he is igniting this spark that was about to die down, especially us who believe wholeheartedly in the ANC.
    Bigups my brother

  • @Matthewnini637
    @Matthewnini637 Месяц назад +8

    Thanks Dr Mtimka and Dr Sizwe ❤❤I will listen after church ❤❤

  • @Mafhuwa
    @Mafhuwa Месяц назад +3

    Mandela University is bless man 🤲🏿🔥 thanks Doc.

  • @fego2361
    @fego2361 23 дня назад

    Thanks Dr Mtimka ,simply loved this interview

  • @siphiwomkokeli9416
    @siphiwomkokeli9416 Месяц назад +3

    Nice to hear Dr Mtimka what a good analysis ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @vhutaliratsethana435
    @vhutaliratsethana435 Месяц назад +3

    Fully agree with your guest and I am ready for my own baptism of fire 🔥 😂. There's a notion by some parties that ANC refused to coalesce with them to push unity with the DA. Where in actual fact, they were within a rock and a hard place, wanting to include everyone but faced with ultimatums. It may not be the best arrangement but it may be the best given the circumstance.

  • @mvelompanza3803
    @mvelompanza3803 Месяц назад +6

    I would love to hear Xolani Dube on SMWX

  • @siphomthembupsyfo6606
    @siphomthembupsyfo6606 Месяц назад +2

    SMWX on another level no one can stop you

  • @kingsleymalaza889
    @kingsleymalaza889 Месяц назад +6

    Dr. Sizwe, The passage from the ancestral line of slavery via feudalism and capitalism to socialism can only lie through revolution: it cannot lie through reform. For in reform, fundamental principles are held constant, and the details of their expression are modified. In the words of Marx, it leaves the pillars of the building intact. Indeed sometimes, reform itself may be initiated by the necessities of preserving identical fundamental principles.
    Reform is a tactic of self-preservation.

  • @TheClassofOpera
    @TheClassofOpera Месяц назад

    Great Man, Great Conversation, particularly the part about the far right egos and politicians. They are making things difficult for all of us.

  • @mabuthomahlangu-v4q
    @mabuthomahlangu-v4q Месяц назад +2

    This guy is so brilliant 👌

  • @sisandamatomela3272
    @sisandamatomela3272 Месяц назад

    Ongama's political analysis alway on point and objective !!

  • @thokozanimbambo50
    @thokozanimbambo50 Месяц назад +9

    Dr Mtimka was my lecturer in 2016, great political thinker.

    • @thobekiledlamini
      @thobekiledlamini Месяц назад

      You think?

    • @thandimasilela8947
      @thandimasilela8947 Месяц назад +1

      Hi doc, please include women too in your lineup your guests are interesting 👊🙏kindly start with Thuli Madonsela if it is possible.

  • @KaraboQuinton
    @KaraboQuinton Месяц назад +5

    Can we please have Dr Lwazi Lushaba on the show

  • @siyandadlamini
    @siyandadlamini Месяц назад

    Thank you Sizwe for keeping us informed, the analysist an politicians you bring paint such an interesting picture

  • @thuthukamaseko3295
    @thuthukamaseko3295 Месяц назад +1

    I would love to hear Mcebo Dlamini’s analysis of this GNU.

  • @tshepomoletsane9764
    @tshepomoletsane9764 Месяц назад +1

    The analogy by Dr. Mtimka of King Saul and David is by far the most appropriate biblical reference in context of EFF on the eve of NPA. By the way Saul, threw a spear at David and missed ( Gwaza Mkhonto). But there is always Jonathan in the midst who detest injustice.
    Moipolai ga a llelwe 😢😢😢.
    PS. The (MK) in Mtimka ( is not silent). Another great one by SMWX.
    What A Time To Be Alive - Perfect Diet this week.

  • @sandilekhumalo-yq3vf
    @sandilekhumalo-yq3vf Месяц назад +1

    After the Floyd interview followed by Dali Mpofu's breaking news...Sizwe did warn us that we're about to get high on his own supply🎉😎Keep them coming

  • @Mrtdogg101
    @Mrtdogg101 Месяц назад

    Best SA pod...its intellectually orgasmic

  • @alexemergineer3202
    @alexemergineer3202 Месяц назад +7

    Unemployment. Unemployment is SA biggest problem ❤😂😅

    • @realdudevision2746
      @realdudevision2746 Месяц назад

      Yes, anyone who tells you something different is selling you snake oil.

  • @VusumuziMakhoba-sv2xv
    @VusumuziMakhoba-sv2xv Месяц назад

    Thanks you Sizwe for the channel hit after hit plz bring Ndlozi

  • @manyananihlwatika726
    @manyananihlwatika726 Месяц назад +1

    Eastern Cape has always dished for this country

  • @EdgarJnrJnr
    @EdgarJnrJnr Месяц назад +1

    I love the consistency of this show there’s always something to watch. Keep educating us sizwe

  • @banothilemabida5364
    @banothilemabida5364 Месяц назад +2

    Keep up the good work Sizwe❤

  • @freegongalant3427
    @freegongalant3427 22 дня назад

    Political intelligence and political education is fascinating, Dr Walsh

  • @velelambeuralukakevideos372
    @velelambeuralukakevideos372 Месяц назад +6

    I think Mbuyiseni Ndlozi must remain in the EFF, his future is bright there in the EFF

    • @SylviaHlavangwana-t2t
      @SylviaHlavangwana-t2t Месяц назад +4

      @@velelambeuralukakevideos372 I also think Dr ndlozi should stay because Zuma did not forgive the eff he repeatedly say they took me out before my time.. He's gonna used Floyd to the fullest and remind him what they did to him.. His daughter will remind Floyd about that...

  • @mfanafuthimzulwini9311
    @mfanafuthimzulwini9311 Месяц назад +1

    Sizwe is working overtime

  • @enhlenjomane5694
    @enhlenjomane5694 Месяц назад +5

    Hit after hit 🔥

  • @tumishomoshaba8954
    @tumishomoshaba8954 Месяц назад

    Dr Ndlozi should follow soon please Dr Mpofu, we can only listen to great minds for research purposes. Moshaba

  • @barnesmata2688
    @barnesmata2688 Месяц назад

    I'm twenty one minutes in, and had to pause to appreciate the Bomb Squad analogy.

  • @samuelmunaku3754
    @samuelmunaku3754 Месяц назад +2

    Sizwe please bring Mbuyiseni Ndlozi

  • @BachelorMaree-mw2ow
    @BachelorMaree-mw2ow Месяц назад +2

    Pls 🙏 comrades let's find common ground again 🙏

  • @MEMageba
    @MEMageba Месяц назад

    I hear you Dr Mpofu keep it up✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿💯

  • @petrusmnguni6737
    @petrusmnguni6737 Месяц назад

    Great conversation indeed tnx Dr Mpofu and Dr Mtimka

  • @makhandakhandantombela4197
    @makhandakhandantombela4197 Месяц назад +1

    great show -please bring Mcebo dlamini

  • @letlhogonoloaulstonmorwakg7379
    @letlhogonoloaulstonmorwakg7379 Месяц назад +2

    Genuine Political Disussions on this channel, No mediocre content!
    #SMWX

  • @NtandoNdelu-cw1rt
    @NtandoNdelu-cw1rt Месяц назад +7

    Dr Sizwe kindly bring the likes of Prof Fikeni and Xolani Dube. Keep up the excellent work 🙏🏾

  • @anticorrup-g5o
    @anticorrup-g5o Месяц назад +1

    A great mind, thank you.

  • @ntobekontombela3716
    @ntobekontombela3716 Месяц назад +1

    When he used the ‘bomb squad’ as an example, I knew I was in the right place 😅

  • @alfred8027
    @alfred8027 Месяц назад +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed this interact particularly the analogy about rugby bomb squad

  • @MummyFuneka-g3z
    @MummyFuneka-g3z Месяц назад +2

    I'VE JUST PICKED UP ONE WORDS "RAND DROP" THUMAMINA ANALYSIST

  • @sabathaboyana9742
    @sabathaboyana9742 Месяц назад

    Dr Mtimka 👏👏👏" I am a Rainbowist"😂😂
    Yes Sir!!
    And the Rugby analogy 👌

  • @sheilasithole5968
    @sheilasithole5968 Месяц назад +1

    Good discussion

  • @sabelwesihlengcobo1215
    @sabelwesihlengcobo1215 Месяц назад

    This was a brilliant one 👏👏👏

  • @MEMageba
    @MEMageba Месяц назад

    Interesting Dr Mtikwa but to much examples, great conversation thanks guys ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

  • @malusingongoma2830
    @malusingongoma2830 Месяц назад +2

    Sizwe can you have Xolani Dube of Xubera please.

  • @AneleMenzi-t9o
    @AneleMenzi-t9o Месяц назад

    Great conversations
    Dope as always 🔥💯👌

  • @maphadimechidi5028
    @maphadimechidi5028 Месяц назад +1

    The MKP's emergence on the South African political scene has sparked intense debate. While some view it as a fashionable new party, others recognize its potential to shake up the status quo. However, it's crucial to acknowledge that the EFF has already made significant strides in changing the country's political landscape, particularly among the youth, with its radical approach.
    The EFF's ability to attract young people is a vital aspect of South African politics, and MKP's decision to prioritize EFF members over its own ground workers may lead to disappointment and potentially harm support for the party. This move could be seen as a strategic misstep, especially considering the importance of grassroots engagement in building a strong political foundation.

  • @maphelodube9480
    @maphelodube9480 Месяц назад

    Ayeye!

  • @BachelorMaree-mw2ow
    @BachelorMaree-mw2ow Месяц назад +1

    You know seeing prof Mtimka getting worked up like that, especially after knowing him for all this years is really scary 😨

  • @bernardjansen6205
    @bernardjansen6205 Месяц назад +1

    My worry is that we don’t have a plan to get the economy going.

  • @PanAfricanist1963
    @PanAfricanist1963 Месяц назад

    If Ndhlozi leaves, that will be the end of my journey with the EFF and Malema's paranoid will be to blame for it. At time like this when the party is facing its toughest test, Malema needed to embrace Mbuyiseni on his side. Ndhlozi complements Malema in that he speaks to base which sceptical of Malema: intellectuals and moderates.

  • @LGKWakuGompo
    @LGKWakuGompo Месяц назад +2

    Enjoyed the interview I disagree on Ndlozi though, the approach taken by the CIC is correct this in when Ndlozi's loyalty is gonna tested. We all saw how Flyde spoke of Ndlozi saying they have known each other for 20 years, they say show me your friends I will tell you your future.

    • @nthabibotsi9855
      @nthabibotsi9855 Месяц назад

      Lol, and when Floyd turned to Julius and he referred to their relationship as GANGSTERISM😳 Floyd is the one gaslighting the tense relationship of trust between Dr. Ndlozi and CIC

  • @thamsanqambatha9266
    @thamsanqambatha9266 Месяц назад +1

    Sizwe did better today.. He was becoming more obvious about being the mouthpiece of his father's party.

  • @The_Verbal_Terrorist
    @The_Verbal_Terrorist Месяц назад +3

    Ongama Mtimka once said 'Readers must be able to read situations'. The situation here has been clear since 2012, Julius Malema is going to become President of MK. The EFF (ANC Youth Wing), MK (ANC Military Wing) and the ANC (Smeared Wing of ANC) will merge and people will act surprised.
    Earth never changes, the patterns are always the same. Aubrey Matshiqi mentioned something like
    'Malema went to Zuma, he slaughtered for him a Goat, a meek animal' - The symbolism to this is that Politically Malema is still a child of Jacob Zuma. He will guide that political career until Presidency. Jacob Zuma is true to himself and the truth, he knows that through all mathematical calculations, there's no better heir or
    seasoned Leader he can trust either than
    Julius Malema or Cyril Ramaphosa.
    'Readers must be able to read situations'- Ongama Mtimka.

  • @sandilemntungwa1538
    @sandilemntungwa1538 Месяц назад

    Dr Mpofu would you please bring Mcebo Dlamini on the show please Dr...

  • @Makroti1050-z9y
    @Makroti1050-z9y Месяц назад +14

    A Thumamina "analyst".

    • @KaizerSauzer
      @KaizerSauzer Месяц назад +2

      @@Makroti1050-z9y he has always been a Ramaphosa factionalist

    • @trevor_sosa
      @trevor_sosa Месяц назад +2

      😂 I'm giving this interview a miss. Hopefully there will be someone better on the next episode.

    • @nhlanhlazondi4845
      @nhlanhlazondi4845 Месяц назад +1

      Facts 😂 Ramaphosas lapdog this mthimka chap

  • @reesa_teesa
    @reesa_teesa Месяц назад +2

    Can we have an SMWX book club? 😮

  • @Lindani_PastaG_Gumede
    @Lindani_PastaG_Gumede Месяц назад +1

    Weekends are for SMWX 🎉

  • @SebopeThapelo
    @SebopeThapelo Месяц назад

    Here are some of the SMWX interviews i enjoyed: Tabane, Modise❤, Samkele, Ramokgopa❤, Molefe, Lesufi , Pandor❤, Sikhakhane all, Matshiqi all🎉, Moganwa, Zungula, your father, Koko, Shivambu before n after, Black Pen

  • @margaretjiri1761
    @margaretjiri1761 Месяц назад +3

    SMWX brilliant as usual. However, I'm a bit confused as to why all commentors hardly make reference to the fact EFF and MKP were approached to be part of grand coalition/GNU and refused to join beacuse of DA. MKP couldnt work with CR so what did expect should happen. You wanted ANC/CR to throw in the towel just like that. Lets look at that angle as well. my penny worth🤑

  • @tumibaloyi2915
    @tumibaloyi2915 Месяц назад +11

    Remember how Floyd said there was no brothership but gangsterism. Do y'all not see that Floyd singling out Dr Ndlozi as his brother and friend was the very gangsterism to push Ndlozi's hand to come to MKP already. How come that behavior by Floyd is not analysed and thought through as much as Julius' every move? If Ndlozi had planed, as reported, to leave in the staggered plans, Julius has every right to antagonize him to leave and even suspend him, if he indeed is doing any of this. The monopoly to antagonize and embarrass is not for some people only at the expense of others.

    • @hallaback2010
      @hallaback2010 Месяц назад +2

      Because people expect a better response from Malema. We already know that MKP wants to eat up the EFF. Floyd’s move is noted, but Malema failed the test.😏

    • @tumibaloyi2915
      @tumibaloyi2915 Месяц назад +2

      @hallaback2010 it's usually the people who don't vote nor support the EFF who are always expecting the most from Julius. I hope they would disabuse themselves and leave the goings on of the EFF to it's leaders and members.

    • @nthabibotsi9855
      @nthabibotsi9855 Месяц назад

      You nailed it and one could not have better explained it. The media is expecting to hear more and analyzing more of what Julius is saying or doing but less of what those who left EFF like the Floyd ones. Julius is a real threat and l remembered one of the Johan Rupert's interviews saying, he can say anything about Julius Malema and all citizens will believe him. Dali Mpofu's wanted EFF to close shop in the formation of MKP but this was not analyzed more. Even Zuma expected people to see it wrong when he joined EFF but right for Julius to dissolved EFF for MKP. So confusing.

    • @nthabibotsi9855
      @nthabibotsi9855 Месяц назад

      ​​@@tumibaloyi2915Absolutely right

  • @lovemoreshangase697
    @lovemoreshangase697 Месяц назад

    Please bring Zuko Godlimpi

  • @ThandolwethuZakwe
    @ThandolwethuZakwe 20 дней назад

    SMWX we need another conversation

  • @simaniwa1021
    @simaniwa1021 Месяц назад

    Be have Mbuyiseni Ndlozi on this platform.

  • @kiabetsoewer3ezerrermcffxf144
    @kiabetsoewer3ezerrermcffxf144 Месяц назад +6

    Cyril changed the struggle of black people from being against white supremacy to be against Zuma

  • @makuxolwesigonya3570
    @makuxolwesigonya3570 Месяц назад

    Ayeye🗣️🙏

  • @NqanaweNqanawe
    @NqanaweNqanawe Месяц назад

    We are present

  • @nqababarnes4340
    @nqababarnes4340 Месяц назад

    I wish mbuyiseni can stay in the EFF because he is a real future leader

  • @phumuzamsibi
    @phumuzamsibi Месяц назад

    Please bring Jan Moganwa back 🙏

  • @ndumisocamngca4738
    @ndumisocamngca4738 Месяц назад +1

    Dr Mpofu-Walsh, it was a good idea to bring in Dr Mtimka amid the sentiment around SMWX. How most people understood the platform to be from the begining is that of intillectual point of view. This episode did that, it seek to take back the platform from direct politicians currently active and are in conflict. As usual, I enjoyed this episode.

  • @Doggie_Dogg
    @Doggie_Dogg Месяц назад +1

    In the presence of intellects anarchy will never mushroom, great analysis as usual no biasness, AYEYE

  • @MivoThando
    @MivoThando Месяц назад +1

    Oops am the second onthe list and thank you for having Prof Mtimka

  • @matemba.ntanga
    @matemba.ntanga Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Dr Mpofu and Dr Mtimka for an insightful conversation. The Saul and David analogy 👌🏼🔥
    AYEYE!!!

  • @mthokozisixulu3876
    @mthokozisixulu3876 Месяц назад

    Doc how soon do you upload on Spotify after the episode is up on RUclips?

  • @katenkosi1389
    @katenkosi1389 Месяц назад

    So much going on around the SA politics and but we them to serve the people's needs comes first and not war after war not division

  • @danielschauffer8216
    @danielschauffer8216 23 дня назад

    ‘It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong’ Thomas Sowell.

  • @KabeloJiyane-e3c
    @KabeloJiyane-e3c Месяц назад

    I noticed the carefulness when the analyst engaged on MKP & EFF.
    Only 2 leaders in the EFF CCT have left, but the painted picture seems like there's a lot who has left.
    2. It is extremely sad to see how this analysis posturing organizational members, particularly those who are on the ground doing organizational work as fellow travelers and that coming h from few comments of individuals.
    3. The analysis must now move analyzing indepth not just on few individuals at high positions.
    All political organizations survived because of those who are on the ground, pledging their loyalty

  • @buyiswagija8299
    @buyiswagija8299 Месяц назад

    Good morning #myson🙏

  • @phelelaninyawose4913
    @phelelaninyawose4913 Месяц назад

    Invite Mdumiseni Ntuli please

  • @gcobisamahlulo4989
    @gcobisamahlulo4989 Месяц назад

    One of my favorite analysts ❤

  • @oreomario
    @oreomario Месяц назад +1

    Spread the fire 🔥🔥🔥

  • @LalasPhiwe
    @LalasPhiwe Месяц назад

    keeps anc in check lest they cower, the eff will govern it might not be immediate

  • @Thinkaboutit-m2w
    @Thinkaboutit-m2w Месяц назад

    Can we get a former president mbeki or Trevor Manuel interview

  • @hallaback2010
    @hallaback2010 Месяц назад

    Someone tell these good doctors that the T in tsunami is silent. 😊

  • @nkosinathinene651
    @nkosinathinene651 Месяц назад

    Ayeye

  • @kekouvc1437
    @kekouvc1437 Месяц назад

    Sizwe great video, but my one problem is, BROWN SOCKS??? Awoa chief

  • @nkosinathinene651
    @nkosinathinene651 Месяц назад +1

    Dr is talking or is got the mindset of Darren, they are saying to the parties must look at the situation of the nation and must deal with it