A few comments on stance and movement in rapier fencing
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Lee Smith (co-founder of Blood & Iron) and Richard Marsden (history teacher, co-founder of the Phoenix Society of Historical Swordsmanship), two of the best instructors in the HEMA community, explain a few basics of various stances and movements in rapier fencing, based on Renaissance fighting manuals written by masters like Capo Ferro, Agrippa, Fabris and Giganti.
There is no universal established way of doing things, different sources show different methods and tactics, and it also depends on how modern martial artists interpret the material.
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these guys are really cool, really interesting and really good speakers. let's hear more from them!
Devil's Advocate Thanks! Lee is a natural leader, and I'm a History High School teacher, so I do public speaking, all day, every day!
They sounds like ruthless dictators
Is it bad that I'm mostly just admiring their *glorious* beards?
Emnuzuse Alor It's the burden Lee and I carry.
SarcasticHam Sandwich no
Skall looks better then both of them
I like how in the historical pictures you showed, the opponents aren't merely stabbed, they are literally impaled through the skull with the rapier sticking out half a meter the other side
That's Marozzo for you. A sadistic person who say to thrust all the way to the hilt and to turn the blade out to cause maximum discomfort.
Patrick Prejean “discomfort” is a pretty big understatement here, isn’t it?
Nice video as always Skal, Lee Smith and Richard Marsden :)
By the way, it would be nice to see a Bloodborne weapon video when you have time to do that. Fictional weapons like "Threaded Cane" would be very interesting to talk about :)
He talked about a weapon like that before I believe but it was not with connection to bloodborne but he should still comment on those weapons I think something like the hunters axe in thr game wiyld be effective in battle.
Amazing Komaru Thanks!
Amazing Komaru I would like for him to specifically talk about the Holy Moonlight Sword in its normal form, not the pretty blue. I love everything about the design personally, but wonder how he would feel.
I really really liked this. Would love to see more demos like this. Thanks Skall and team!
This HD is awesome. Thanks for that care, Skall, it's not necessaryn but it gives an effect in swords moves quite satisfaying for the eyes.
Yay! Glad to see Marsden in your videos.
I stopped by the Phoenix Society and took a lesson on Fiore longsword last year--good people, and lots of similarities to old-school Okinawan karate, which I practice :)
That was a really cool video! I appreciate you taking the time to edit in the historical pictures. I don't know how many minutes you spent, but I appreciate every one of them :D
had a lot of fun taking Rapier classes.
Hey! Don't insult my Fabris! :(
Got to admit, though, Fabris is a bit crazy. That's why I do his stances. :)
Neo Henry Good on you! I don't dislike Fabris, I just am not flexible enough to make it look good. Some of my students use it and they are much better at it! My children surpass me :)
Richard Marsden Every parents love it when their children become better versions of the parents.
Sometime.
Three SCA rapier instructors (I do SCA rapier because San Francisco doesn't have HEMA clubs around) say that Fabris fits for me. Being short, 5' 5", is advantageous through Fabris, they note from experience.
For one second, because of your profile picture I thought Mordor wanted to have a little bargain for my soul.
+Neo Henry hehe.
imho the reason, why so few people do fabris today, is, because they are simply not fit enough. ;)
He said as much in his book! These drawings come from life! As if even back then people looked at it and said, "really?"
I'm a big fan of working on Fabris 2nd, the real low one, arms retracted to lure the opponent in. Do I get it to work? Well... sometimes. Does it make people sense a trap? Yes!
Fabris on my friend!
Neo Henry In SCA heavy combat, I met a guy who uses the "funky fighting style." Never got around to finding out the proper name or origin. Instead of standing vertical with your shield arm elbow at 90 degrees, you keep your shield arm straight, with your shield low and leaning back about 45 degrees from vertical. Doesn't work too well with a "barn door" but perfect for a heater, small roundshield, or buckler. I find that move useful even with a "barn door" if I see something weird coming- lets me drop into a back stance and cover my leg. Downside is dropping a heavy shield into a lower energy state. :-(
There is a video by Guy Windsor regarding Capoferro you might be interessted in "Rapier Seminar 31032012pt1.mov" on you tube. A good hour and very detailed.
The technique with stepping out backwards is described there in detail. He provokes it by doing a stringere on the outside, provoking a cavazione to the inside and a thrust. When he gets is he will step out to the rear and thrust.
oh how wonderful. i simply love rapier
my thoughts on the maneauvers starting 4:30 :
i think there are actually 2 variants. both have in common, that the rapier is held in quarta or turned from terza to quarta during execution. the difference imho:
a) the quicker version leaves the left backfoot in place, simply straightens the left leg and sets the right frontfoot out of the attacking line. (i know this as "scanzo della vita")
b) the slower version moves the left backleg, pivoting it in a circle around the right frontleg, which is left in place. (i know it as "volta" or "inquartata" [because it often starts from a terza-guard])
MrSven3000 Correct!
Then you have giratas as well. Of the inquartata, Giganti says there are many varieties, but he shows a few.
lovin these videos, especially the HEMA stuff. very knowledgeable.
Modern fencing is also a good tool to learn how to use these types of blade, as the foil. Which is the main weapon used was designed as a training weapon for the raiper and you learn a lot of these things though that as well
***** Not really. The rapier weighs a little over 2lbs on average. If you were to use modern fencing techniques with that, it just won't work. The game changes completely. (Plus intent. Modern Fencing is to the first touch with right of way. Historical fencing is to kill while not be killed in a realistic setting)
LOL, I thought you grew your hair out! Then I realized it wasn't you. But these information are really clear and good for stances and movements!
Very nice demo
Man do i love these videos. Skalla keep it up!
I thought I was watching a blood and iron video at first...didnt look at the post bc I assumed it would give me another blood and iron vid after watching a few and then I heard Skall's voice and I was like....WAIIITTT A SEC THEY GOT SKALL THERE?!?!?! but then I realized he posted it lolz. fun moments being by yourself on youtube
I had the privilege to spar with some top-level rapier fencers from the SCA a few years ago. It was a truly remarkable experience, and they were very nice guys, but the personas and historical garb get to be a little over the top for me sometimes, so it was very nice to see some experienced fencers discussing techniques without all the flair. I do love cloak techniques though. What is your opinion, Skall, in regards to the fencing side of the SCA, of that sort of historical garb and dramatic flair?
interesting, thanks for this Skall!
Can you do a video on the Jagdkommander Tri-Dagger?
Very interesting video Skallagrim, more of this please! and some full action montage mabye? :)
That last technique was really interesting. I wonder if it could work with a shorter sword, like a backsword or sabre, provided your opponent has a smallsword or a cut-and-thrust sword of a similar length (28-30 inches/71-76 cm).
Ryan Cauffman Possibly. We work from historical manuals and the backsword/saber manuals I have read don't use the inquartata. Someone else may have come across it.
Small-sword yes - i0.wp.com/madamepickwickartblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/grand12.jpg
(Note how the weapon is so thrust-orientated that he's voided it entirely and not sought opposition)
When asking about mixed-weapons (saber vs rapier, backsword vs cut-and-thrust, or backsword vs shovel), it gets tricky. Treatises often cover these only in passing with a few exemplars.There are plenty of exceptions, but you have to go hunting for them.
If asking about using it in a practical sense, I'd say 'yes' if the opponent thrusts deep enough that you can rotate away, AND thrust them, and recover before they can do anything about it. You can make almost 'anything' work in the right circumstances, but that doesn't mean it was A- historical B- you should do it, it may not be historical for a reason!
Richard Marsden Thanks. That helps a lot.
I keep thinkimg I heard those name in The Princess Bride.
I wonder what these instructors have against Fabris? What I've seen of Fabris from Martin Fabian's channel seems excellent
The Tattletale Strangler The tradition of cross source trash talk is super strong in rapier. All of the renaissance masters showed their wit in their treatises with sardonic digs against the Italians, the French, the Spanish, the English. Basically, it's traditional to badmouth other styles in a friendly way.
Skall, Were as I am Glad you have all these NEW things going on for you, your channel has changed, and to "me" now it seems you have forgotten the people who came here to see you and Cara talk about the Knives of the day, you went off on a fighting style used many years ago, and a lot of people will never need the info on this.
Some will follow you down your path, but "I just me" think you have forgotten ALL the people who made you a great person and great Channel, and that is sad I miss the days when you would sit around just talking about what was on your mind and most of the common people who liked this stuff, When passing by your Thumb Nail if I happen to see something other then Fencing or The Great Master's of Fencing I will stop by. Good Luck in all you will do, I am sure you will do great with the new Format and everything you Post. Sorry if this message get's to you in the wrong manner, But I just wanted to say what I thought. Joseph, Meko a You Tube Watcher.
Joseph Meko
Don't worry, I'll get back to my usual video style. I just have a lot of martial arts footage right now from recent practice but I have no intention of turning this into a HEMA channel. It will always be about a variety of topics.
***** Just for the record, you should definitely keep this stuff coming too :)
***** Thank you Sir, I will be watching.
"Hard to take serius guys with swords wearing no protection" - Skall(answerd me once I showed him a vídeo with sword tecnics)... Here in brazil we use ta say, the thong, whips the people
pcatalunia pedro Nice videos though
pcatalunia pedro
It depends on what you're doing. A slow, controlled technique demonstration like this is fine without protective gear. Anything with fast movements is more problematic.
*****
I'm not so sure. It seemed like at any moment an eye could be poked out. A few years back when I was into fencing it was hard for me to even hold a foil without any facial protection. I suppose these guys are skilled enough, though.
BurningLizard These weapons are much much slower than a foil, so the risk was fairly negligible. That said, here is a story for you.
Alfred Hutton on writing about 18th century fencing masters said they could be identified by their lack of home, missing eye, and missing teeth.
Well, who knows?! A eye coud be poked, or troat, but anyways, i'm not here judging, just making my point. I agree with everything on the videos, and yet I can say they failed for not using gear. Despite the lack of safety gear, I can absorb good information from them, there are good points of views. I can not follow tha same path you going, but if end on the same spot, most likely theres some stuff to learn from each other. Keep the good work.
Normally, I really don't like rapiers. Simply because they're mostly a one-trick-pony and the fact that you have to be extremely precise to land a killing move in one go. But in the hands of a master who knows how to use the range and speed like these two, they can still command my respect.
Skall, what do you think about wooden armor?
It looks like the spanish "verdadera destreza" tecnics
Angel Mg Same weapon, but different theory. The Spanish have a very different view and wrote 'against' the techniques we describe here. Conversely, Italian masters wrote against the Spanish style, and George Silver complained about both!
Tried to imitate the techniques with my replica hand and a half sword (only sword I have in my collection). Needless to say my arm got really sore after about 5 minutes XD
Kaixa123 Might be a bit too heavy! Fiore sword in one hand might be a better fit, it depends on the size and weight of your sword to find out what historical period and thus treatises it matches.
Richard Marsden Yeah I know. What's more, it's only meant to be used as a display piece and not an actual sparring weapon XD The drawbacks of living in Singapore where all forms of weapons are banned and even replicas are not allowed to be carried in public T.T Awesome techniques nonetheless :)
Understood. There is HEMA in Asia, but I'm not sure whose up to what and where!
Are these useful or even applicable to modern fencing (epee, foil specifically)? I'm just wondering as using something obscure or less common could have the potential to surprise certain opponents.
HEMA focuses on HISTORICAL martial arts. Modern fencing (especially olympic fencing) is centered around "Hit him before he hits you". HEMA on the other hand, focuses on "Hit him, but don't get hit yourself"
Although both forms have the same roots, I doubt that HEMA techniques could be applicable to modern fencing. I mean in SOME situations it might, but not always.
Epee would be the most applicable, due to the scoring rules epee fencers train a great deal to set up actions were they are the only fencer who lands a touche, it doesn't always happen, but they have the most similar mindset. And epee has actions/techniques similar to what was shown here, it tends to happen much faster and with smaller movements.
For instance at 2:20 is a simple distance parry, reposite, still used to today, epee fencers will be sure take their opponents blade often even if they land a touch in the process of opening the distance because they still want to defend against a redoublement scoring a cheap point.
At 3:20 level changes to avoid attacks and land counters are still a common, if desperate tactic, in modern epee.
And while the size of the piste limits dramatic side steps as at 4:45, Epee fencers will move slightly off line, turn their shoulders to allow their opponent's point to slide by, and land a touche in the process.
The context is different but conceptually and technically so aspects of the original art have been well persevered and even refined, while others have been lost.
Skall, you should be the historian! lol
this isn't related to the vid but is there a way to fix a rolled edge? I can't seem to find a way :P
Harvey Chestbreach Hammer it out, then grind it again.
Could they fight a lefty
Guy Martin Yes. It's not 'as' tricky in rapier as other systems.
3/10 IGN No demonstration of how to end them rightly.
So basically it's an all-in maneuver? =p
Either you stab him in the throat or he kills you while you flail around like an idiot trying to get back up.
***** Yep! And so when I do this technique, I tend to do it against the slow and less experienced. When I try it against those who know what they are doing, I can end up with a foot to the face!
You guys seens diferent from usual asian martial arts, some of them at least, who have a really restrict, rules to show videos and instructions on videos or even books sometimes, what are you restricted to show and not show on your channel?
"I see you have ahh studied Capo Ferro" -Inigo Montoya.
I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.
Unless the enemy has astudy his Agripa... which I have!
Is there a particular reason so many stances look like something the Ministry of Silly Walks came up with?
gso619 I honestly didn't think anyone could get a 'Python reference into _this_ video!
gso619 I'm a paying member, so....
gso619 Swordplay is sort of like sex. If you're doing it for real instead of for an audience, it looks totally different. :-)
Mark Stockman I always wondered why they had mirrors on the dojo ceiling
Mark Stockman Thanks, I'm stealing that. :)
These guys were both really good to learn from. Different styles and personalities but I really enjoyed interacting with them both as teachers and as people. Would go to any future seminars either of them host in the future. Also really glad I was able to get all these extra demonstrations in person after the seminar. Great stuff, great people.
kriegschwert
Yeah, absolutely. And it was good to have you down here, bro. :)
***** and of course it goes without saying, hangin out with Skall was great too! Thanks to him and Cara for putting me up for a night. Stayed up WAY too late talking and comparing our sword collections. Cant wait to do it again!
these guys rock!
A FMB Why thank you!
My first thought was "Bleh not much Skall in this one", but by the end I found myself just wanting more. You're a good content creator and your passions usually result in more good content. More of whatever you feel like making.
At 3:40, this is a nasty suprise attack. Before i saw this , i wouldn´t expect it.
Veltins Pilz I love to surprise an opponent. With a bastard sword (with or without a shield) if I go to hanging guard in a back (weighted) stance, my opponent sometimes thinks I'm totally on the defensive and vulnerable. (( evil grin ))
:)
Veltins Pilz surprise is pretty effective strategy even if the technique is considered to be stupid.
A point I learned in Sparring: The jumping roundhouse kick in the basic variant. When you raise our knee to gain momentum for the jump it looks exactly like the beginning of a normal front or roundhouse kick and at the moment when your opponent counteracts against a potential kick with this leg you do a roundhouse kick with the other leg. And no it was no taekwondo typed sparring, it was more similar to MMA.
For itself the jumping roundhouse kick looks stupid, especially in the basic variant. A jumping kick to the head?
In context with an resisting opponent it is a solid thing.
Benjamin Brohmer As the 4th Doctor put it, "Make mistakes- it confuses the enemy."
I always liked to throw a roundhouse kick (real, not a feint) and if my opponent went into a back stance to dodge it, step forward and turn it into a spinning back kick.
Another technique to movement is using the environment. I was doing boffer swords (foam insulation over PVC pipe) with my nephew, and he was giving me a hard time. So I made a couple of lunges, he moved back each time, I circled him, and lunged again- except he was "tunnel visioned" on me, and didn't realize I'd maneuvered his back to a tree. (( evil grin ))
I don't understand why he parried 6 instead of 4. It seems like both the easier and more effective disengage for a head or chest thrust.
I'm starting to work at getting rapier practices at my college (we have SCA heavy, but only myself and 1 other rapier), and this was really helpful in seeing how the images and the descriptions in some of the manuals I've looked at can be explained in a useful manner. Thanks for the explanation!
It's really helpful to see those maneuvers shown in life from the books. You can read and read and even fight but it's very hard to figure out what the hell they were doing back in the day. Thanks a lot.. i'm taking a few tricks to my my next practice :)
Damn that was cool
Utherix Why thank you!
Richard Marsden Rapier fencing is my favorite and you guys did a very pretty job of educating people thank you very much!
Thanks! We always worry when posting videos we'll forget something, or not do enough justice to something, but that's how it goes! Thanks again!
This was one of the most interesting videos on your channel for a while, in my opinion.
I don't agree. A lot of good videos are interesting
This was fascinating and I would love to see more!
hey skall wil you be doing any axe fencing in the future?
FVeim He has said before that he does not believe it is possible to make a safe practice axe, so probably not
Well with full plate it should be okay but yeah it's really hard to make a realistic and safe axe head
i know it isnt safe, but it's hella fun
FVeim Fiore has plays with the pole-axe. Sparring correctly with it does require armor. For those who want to see axe, as in (not a pole axe, but an axe!), I'm not aware of any historical treaties though some people are trying to re-create axe combat with hooks, thrusts and cuts!
Richard Marsden im really intersted inn seeing the vikings style axe fighting, but i see the saftey limitations
I bet that the guy on the left has kendo training.
Matheus Rebelo He does not! He does fight, all the time against many opponents. What made you say that by the by?
Matheus Rebelo
I don't think that Lee has practiced Kendo, at least he's not known for it.
Richard Marsden because he stomped the ground while striking. That's something that we do a lot on kendo xD
Matheus Rebelo I think he just did that to emphasize his foot movement while explaining, he doesn't actually stomp in a fight.
jeroen92 yeah I think that could be it
Would love to see a vid deconstructing all the things you can do in D&D and see if you COULD drink a potion, cast a spell, tumble, etc, without getting your face sliced off.
Keep up the good work.
It's really nice to get some insight into the flashy side of sword fighting, the showman stuff, the arrogance of these historical fighters.
Loved hearing the opinions of these two guys they made a good pair, there knowledge bounced off each of them, great talk .
Great to see more rapier stuff on your channel. If those guys have anything on Destreza I'd love to hear it.
Captain Shoutyface. Alas, not as much. I know the 'basics' of Destreza, but do not read Spanish and rely on others to impart information.
Steps are circular and angular.
There is not 'lunge' as with the Italians, though there are Gran Passo (Big steps)
The cut is still used, there are three types, mandoble (wrist powered) media tajo (elbow) arrabatar (shoulder).
The Movement of conclusion is a pass around the circle followed by a seizure and cut.
And other things I can't recall nor am learn-ed enough to impart.
Thibault is not Destreza, but similar in some ways and Blood and Iron's Sean Franklin has been getting into that!
Richard Marsden I've looked more into the Spanish and Italian side of rapier, what I know is in the DVDs from Martinez School Of Arms. Very good instructional pieces and not too expensive. Other than that, though, I don't know a lot from the treaties and historical texts but I do know about how they cut mostly with the very tip, have a very upright stance, the "Mysterious Circle" and how their footwork and drills work. I've not yet progressed onto dagger work, yet. I'm self-taught so I really want to feel competent before I attempt anything fancy and, as you probably know very well, obtaining a solid level of consistency and mastery over the fundamentals takes some hard work and a lot of practice.
Yeah, I have the same videos and have talked with Martinez, a bit, but not much. There are gobs of material, it just isn't translated as far as I know. We dabble, but I'd defer to experts on that one!
the amount of swag in realistic/ practical sword fighting/ hema/ sparring is just incredible
Cargo pants are very similar to early C17 pants.
I still don't understand why we have a two dimensional lunging contest (at least that's what I'm seeing, no offence!) in the Olympics rather than historical fencing.
I was taught the pasata soto (4:00) from my original instructor... really freaked out my next club with it who considered it illegal with electric equipment. Recovery is possible when done with surprise and a strong rear arm counterbalance.
These guys are awesome. Obviously Ragnar and Floki :-P
Nirvy Thanks!
Really nice video and good job on the sound quality. Most of these "seminar videos" on YT have really bad sound and are therefore hard to watch, but this is very nice. Moar! ;-)
This was great. Demonstration of a practical spin. Though it's more twisting forward while keeping the blade on target. I actually learned that move when I was doing fail fencing.
Fascinating, the first minute or two of the video is very similar to boxing. You would give the same advice to someone throwing a jab.
Really cool seeing those last two techniques in particular. The first was a down and dirty unexpected strike, and the other was a prim and proper flourish. I like the fact that we got to see both back to back.
Beautiful. I love the more elegant and mobile rapier... unfortunately, in the heat of things I can never seem to pull anything nearly as impressive as a volte myself without suffering perforations. All that aside, wonderful demonstration and grasp of the art.
Thanks! Most folks don't realize that combat with blades is a martial art.
This got me thinking- how awesome it would have been if Miyamoto Musashi and Yagyu Munenori had produced illustrated manuals.
Book of five rings?
Noah Weisbrod There's an illustrated/illuminated version???
Mark Stockman god, if there was, it would solve every problem with that book, namely that for the life of me I cannot figure out how the hell those moves are supposed to be executed
Musashi was known to be able to draw, but it doesn't appear that any copies of his book have drawings in them. (his original manuscript has been lost, so we'll never know)
There are modern kenjutsu books adapted from it that have illustrations, if those would help.
This is really cool, great experts in the field showing off the flashier techniques. I really enjoyed this!
Right now my guild isn’t big on competing...I found it through the HEMA club finder but they don’t host or compete in tournaments. The most there is is showcase sparring. So we’re just learning straight from Fabris Treatis but using Capofero guards (weight on back leg)....I do have to say if I were competing I think I’d be more effective going 50/50. Holding that guard can be really uncomfortable and really tires out that quad. By the time you’d be ready to execute a lunge or really any attack, your bag leg would be so fatigued that it would be a weak execution...inviting sloppiness, predictability, and inaccuracy, versus having fresher legs allowing there to be more force, spring, and more accuracy. Great video.
Hey Skalla. Because you, like myself, are a knife enthusiast (perhaps the term fanatic would be more appropriate?), I recommend you look into the Miller Brothers Blades company out of Fremont Ohio. If all of their products match the quality of those in their test videos, they work absolute miracles with steel.
Godspeed
A complete lack of sword blocks that truly made rapier fighting what it is. Also they (continuously) dropped their heel. A cardinal sin in any renaissance/early modern sword fighting
Looks like variations of Kokutsu-dachi (Back stance) I think it is cool to see how certain ways of carrying yourself are universal among cultural fighting styles.
I had never thought about some movements being so subtle in fencing. Interesting stuff.
Thank you Skall, and the Meisters. Much War Knowledge learned.
4:44 Ultimate humiliation kill pose. "Oh, what's that? Ooooohhhh, you missed. *stab*
Thanks Jöhännes Sigiward Fechter helped with the rolled edge thing, but will this work with a katana? I think it might be different for one. If it does can I use a steel file to do that
***** Very nice video, if you could, do more of this! i love your videos, keep making this good work, Hugs from spain!
these guys look awesome.The atmosphere of Martial arts seminars with masters of the art that funny and jolly is the best time one can have.However,and it might be because i'm not a native speaker,i feel like i cant understand every word they are saying like they are talking too fast.
Hey I have a question about muskets and flintlocks what would a left handed person do when all they can find is right handed muskets?
nice video thanks
please do a Fantasy Weapons Scrutinized from lord of the rings and the hobbit
Might be because it's Historical swordmanship, but the stance, the approach and that they stretch their arms looks rather odd to me.
Skall, could you do a review on how realistic Mount&Blade : Warband is?
You guys are so elegant in your technique it makes me wonder have you ever taken hand to hand martial arts if you applied the skill you have here to hand to hand it would be a lovely thing to behold
one thing i have noticed about the instructors is that they are putting presure on the knees of their back leg, this can still get the power but it does mean then can damage their own knees, all they need to do is to make their foot follow the direction of the strike
Awesome :D
What makers of rapiers would you recommend for a practice rapier? Money is not an issue.
What are the pros and cons between a single edged bladde and a double edged blade?
A elegant weapon of a more civilized time quite honestly actually.
awesome video and the guys in the video explane very well!
somebody needs to make a pommel sword with many pommels just for throwing.
Así luchaba un Español.
I learned the proper back stance through kung fu.
not exactly close range combat they have way more effective weapons for close range.
For a second I was thinking that the gentleman with the orange tip rapier was Skall. 😁
Hmmm...this reminds me of breakdancing,or dancing in general for some reasons
khoa tran oh yanno it's just the diddly dance of death :)
khoa tran the water dance... *flies away*
"Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~ Allegedly said by Confucius. I'm too lazy to verify it, but you get the idea.
Just realized one of them is wearing wrestling shoes. Why doe?
Very nice discussion on the stances and steps. Thanks for sharing that.
The pasatta sotto (spelling) is unseen among electric sport fencers
that back foot maneuver is known as a check hook in boxing :)
I really want to learn this but long island sucks
Could these techniques translate to standard sport fencing in Foil or Epee, since they are in essence rapiers?
AuraSight Alas, not really. The rapiers are heavier, the goals are also very different. In sport you have right of way, and you need to hit, and hit first. In HEMA you need to hit and not be hit, and you can move laterally, and use your off-hand. There is no right of way.
The sport fencing world has really dialed down how to win at the sport, the HEMA world is trying to re-create a martial art.