lol , I bet they also pulled that switch while in the middle of illegally banging out hot dudes “oy bruv oy’ve gotta run to the lou for more me lube, yeah? brb”
@momo peep I was one of the last batch of student nurses to train at Long Grove hospital where this happened. We where told this story during one of our lectures. Apparently the Kray's gifted the Dr. a very nice watch and for years afterwards received a Christmas card from the Kray family.
I worked in the East End for a while. It has come as a shock that only 32 people were in the Blind Beggar that night, because half of the East End seemed to have been in there from the anecdotes I heard. "Oh my mate's uncle" or "My sister in law's half brother's step sister's dog" were in there that night. heh. Cheers for the upload.
James of course half the people oin the east end knows someone who was in the beggars. Half the people in the east end used to drive the krays around. The other half went to school with then
Not saying they aren't just claiming BS, but when you take into account how many family members (married or blood), friends, acquaintances, people have you worked with or dated in your own life. Not to mention how many each of those people have people in those categories and multiply it by 32. That easily is believable especially the further down the line the claim becomes. Crazier things have happened
With Ronnie, this is one of the few instances (in my opinion) where the actor portraying him _actually_ looks like the real deal. The nose, the eyes, the brow, the fleshy lips, the chin, even the hairline... It's uncanny, the resemblance.
helder skelter same as in Newcastle Very few people had heard of paddy Conroy but when he ended up on tv everyone within the Tyne and Wear Region claimed to know work for or be related to him. All of it made up
LA Thinker. I’ve often wondered why Cliff Richard has flown under the radar for so long and have always assumed that it’s because of his ‘close’ relationship with the Royal Family as was Noel Coward before him. But i dont think there’s any evidence that Noel was interested in little boys. He lived in Jamaica (and died there) with two former chorus boys for well over forty years. But the age gap wasnt much younger than twenty odd years. He also left his entire estate to them except for some money he left to finish the building and restoration to a large church in Teddington in West London where i grew up. The church was never refurbished and i often wondered where that money went.
Just found this on RUclips and it is brilliant. The people who are telling the story from the police viewpoint or that of Norman Lucas, Albert Donaghue and other boyos is simply fantastic. Well done.
i grew up in the fiftys i lived around the corner to the nashes i knew roy and george i had a good freind who wanted me to join him to get friends with the krays he joined them i didnt i could tell you a lot about that time they only wanted money from the rich club and bar owners and beat up the ones who crossed them
Without a doubt the best documentary on the Krays! I have been intrigued by them since the 80's so I have watched a lot of films etc. Objective, balanced, informed and even taught me a thing or two
@Ricky Bowen Back in those days hairy beavers were the rage,even up into the eighties when i had my first woman. Anyway,some chicks were particularly hairy.I guess you could liken some, to putting the bottom part of a bikini over a toupee.Most young blokes back then had combs in their back pockets?It wasn't for combing their hair...;)
I was investigating the life of my great grandfather Henry Dunn Sayer, an East End local hero. He was awarded many decorations, he held a certificate from the Royal Humane Society, received their medal with bars. His citation was "he never lost a soul." He saved 112 children and one adult from drowning in the local canal, over the course of several years. Everyone was so poor, Charlie Chaplin, another East End boy, just starting out, held two charity concerts for him. When Henry Dunn Sayer died aged 54, the local people and undertakers organized his funeral at Chingford Mount. There was no money for a private plot so he was interred in a common grave. In a curious twist, the Chingford Mount officials decided he should be placed in a mass children's grave, saying he had saved children in life, he would look after them in death. I stood by this pit, turned away and within a few paces, stumbled across monstrous marble tombs. The krays, they are buried close by a man of bravery and honour. Makes one think about who gets the rewards in society. Interesting my great grandfather only ever received multiple bronze decorations...he only saved 113 poor people, not even worth one silver medal.
Yes but we all know now who was the real hero. Real decent good people like your grandfather do what they do in a quiet decent unassuming non violent way, that's the difference between him and these to mindless thugs. People only "respected" them out of fear not love and affection that your grandfather gave and received.
But unlike what people seem to believe they actually did put themselves about a bit so maybe they are telling the truth but stay away from people that were in the blind beggar that fateful night because I know of two people that claimed to have been there and also one of them has reinvented the Hebrew language of old by giving it actual vowels it has none and not in the style of runic script either none whatsoever at all at all.
My grandmother was a widow in Glasgow during the 40s, she would say we're poor but honest. She had six kids one a baby in her arms when my Grandfather was killed, but she didn't steal. Glorifying crime is never good, I see that with the gangs in my country guns and drugs are rife. It's the families who suffer because of the crims! Al Capone to garner support from the public dished out a small portion of his ill gotten gains to them! Get real about crims treating their females well, Reggie beat his wife up poor lady, not long after she killed herself.
People said when the Krays ruled you were safe to walk the streets at night . When Ronnie died a huge amount of people turned out to pay their respects and say goodbye
I grew up in Bethnal Green , in the years after the Krays were incarcerated. Everyone I knew had a Kray story. It was amazing how much they were , and to an extent still are, revered as heroes rather than criminals. They did what they did, but that sentiment of sadness when they were locked up still pervades to this day.
At an audition for a part in East Enders, actors are required to say " I knew the twins, they were good boys to their dear old mum, and kept the east end safe from villains".
Norman Lucas the Mirror reporter must have been inspiration for Paul Whitehouse's drunk old buffer- "yes there were villians everywhere-but i was very very drunk".
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My parents and grandparents grew up in this era and always said that is was a much better time to live in. The cockneys were genuinely nice people. Most people didn’t really have anything against the gangsters of this time. They only messed with each other or with people causing trouble. Since the end of the London gangster the city’s underclass has ran rampant.
@@debras1503 What about all the innocent law-abiding business's that were extorted for 'protection' money by the mafia? Or made to put mafioso on they payroll for no-show jobs? This was a staple source of mafia income. Your business went up in flames if you said no, or you were killed (as with the brothers who ran the New Jersey refuse business and tried to say no).
It's all myth, they never owned a club, never made any money, never killed anyone....etc it's all lies...they were just petty thieves who were twins who hung out at night clubs.
As they said right at the start , the police enforced stupid laws , that even they knew were stupid . Consequently the street people have no respect for them , and see them as ' the enemy ... ' The East End has been that way since Robert Peel's very first police force ...
Cornell was a Richardson enforcer. Real name George Myers. Met his nephew. He was a bouncer at Dukes nightclub Chelmsford. Great man. All tough as nails.
They ruled . They may gave been gangsters but the common people loved them so much. Women were safe to walk the streets at night. The were jailed because they were becoming so powerful they were almost untouchable.
While most here mention the Tom Hardy film about the Krays, I think a much better film about them was released around 1991. It was entitled The Krays. Yes, Tom Hardy’s performance was quite good, but the 1991 film had a better script that shifted the psychological center of the story to the Kray,s mother.
Are you talking about the rise of the krays and then the fall of the krays? Definitely had better character interactions throughout the films but the resemblance between the 2 main actors was absolutely terrible 😂
@@keegangrahame5440 The Kray twins in the Tom Hardy film 'Legend' were very watered down versions of them. They were much more violent, smarter and unpredictable than Hardy portrayed. They didn't come across as intimidating , nasty and evil as they actually were. It was a modern take on them and not accurate
I can believe that shop owners or small business owners would go to the Krays and ask them for protection. They knew that if people knew that the Krays were looking after their pub or shop then no trouble would happen.
My grandfather used to own a little shop when the krays started to take over. He was forced to pay them protection money. The twins sent over an associate to do the deal. I believe he only met one of the twins just once when he missed a payment. Got away with just a verbal warning
I could listen to Norman Lucas's stories all day long. I'm certainly going to buy some of this books, the man is amazing, "Where does this put me, you're an escaper?". love it.
I was drinking in the Blind Beggars the night after the shooting of George Cornwall it was practically empty and all night long they played the song by Cher Bang Bang l think back and realise it was quite surreal.
I read Chris Lambrianou's book years ago. Out of all of the associates that went down with the Krays in 1969, he is the only one that showed any real remorse for his involvement in the Firm. He served 15 years+ I believe, as he wouldn't turn Queen's evidence. Its a sad story, such a waste...
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Charlie kray was a real gentleman, loved by many and was the complete opposite to reggie and Ronnie... what happened to Charlie was terrible, he was set up with the shipment of cocaine. because reggies 30 years were almost up, they didn't want two kray brothers on the street. they sent poor Charlie to a prison on a cold island and there was no need to do this.... R.I.P Charlie kray….
I've always been interested in these two, how they were able to gain and have so much control. They really frightened people and terrorized the East End.
I was drinking in the east end the day the twins got sentenced in every pub I went in people were singing "Ronnie Kray has gone away gone away gone away " to the tune of London bridge is falling down so much for them being loved in East London
The one lesson is rats always rat out eventually when they have to, love the Kray story watched all the movies, but they were doomed to fail like all organised crime, the problem is they will always rat on each other to save their own necks. There has never been a a big organised crime bust without the ones who turn, even now.
My late grandmother used to live across the road from one of the Krays "associates" who lived with his mum. When the guy got banged up, my nan looked after his mum as she was distraught. One day, my nan had a knock on her door and when she answered it, a big bouquet of flowers was on the door step with a card that just said " Thank you. love from R & R". She said she saw a flash car driving down the road.
I remember them!!! Yes... Yes I went to school with the Kray Twins. Sure did!!! I am 49 and I have lived in the United States my entire life but I remember them from school. I sat in a desk right in between them. Oh the memories. 😜😜😜😜
Funny how that newspaper editor says at the end “that he no scruples, and or morals in conning people” to get a ‘story’ and or a TV series! All I can say is at least the criminals of that era had some code of conduct unlike journalists and politicians. The double standards and hypocrisy is disgusting!!!
they literally had no code of conduct considering a lot of their power came from tormenting ordinary people just trying to make a living😂😂 That’s not even mentioning the fact that Ron was a literal pedophile lmaooooooooooo
yes, the code of conduct where you nail people's heads to the floor or knife someone that is ''looking at you funny''... that type of code of conduct, you mean?
Charlie Kray had the most wonderful speaking voice. Regardless of dropped aitches and his East End accent, it would have been a marvellous one for radio narration of childrens' books. No nasty comments about subject matter, please !
As a child, I remember a Monty Python skit about the Piranha Brothers that in hindsight was a satire about the Kray twins. They kept talking about the Piranhas nailing people’s heads to the floor.
It's when they hear about the Krays that they wannabe gangsters most of today's scummys are Kray Groupies they've got posters,tattoos they've seen the films and read every book written by any one who says they knew the Krays all these old faces talking about old school values that only existed in their heads
Wtf... 'nobody thought they'd be sentenced for 30 years'.... No?.. After murdering at least 3 people and probably a lot more, nailing people to floors, intimidating decent business owners etc.... Pair of psychos got what they richly deserved.
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@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh I'm kinda into Creepypasta but that scare me a lot.
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE Not familiar.
"A paranoid schizophrenic walks into a bar."
When they open 😂😂😂
and says Ouch, because it was an iron bar
Like a western.
I'm from America...where are you all from...
Kam Kruger
London, England mate
“The Kray twins are the reason the Italian mafia never came to the UK”
- Jeremy Clarkson
It's The American Mafia.
Cally Emby same thing
@@jamiejosh96 no its not.
Is it true???
@@raichu2649 I doubt it
The way Ronnie switched with Reggie at the mental hospital LOL i cant-
Well, being identical twins in this was the case, then investigation should have notice this.
lol , I bet they also pulled that switch while in the middle of illegally banging out hot dudes
“oy bruv oy’ve gotta run to the lou for more me lube, yeah? brb”
@momo peep I was one of the last batch of student nurses to train at Long Grove hospital where this happened. We
where told this story during one of our lectures. Apparently the Kray's gifted the Dr. a very nice watch and for years afterwards received a Christmas card from the Kray family.
😂
I CAME FOR A SHOOTOUT, A PROPER SHOOTOUT 🤣🤣
Conspiracy515 Like a wessterrn 🤣
@@jasminolmedo9336 I love this film so much lol😂😂
Conspiracy515 Me too!! I have it on replay 😂🤣
Conspiracy515 you gonna bake me a cake
A FUCKEN SHOOTOUT.
Legend was amazing Tom Hardy was so good in the part
Alison Stacy part(s) ;)
sad thing they never mentioned mike tyson
And critics hated it so I never saw it.
Tom Hardy is perfect as Alfie Solomon in The Peaky Blinders
Didn't Think it was that good, Can't put my finger on why either 🤷🤷🤷
@RESPECT MY AUTHORITY Reggie and Mike exchanged letters while they were in prison. Nothing, really.
"I understand he also nailed your wife's head to a coffee table"
"He did do that , yeah. He was a cruel man, but fair".
@John Gilmore Even Dinsdale was scared of Doug. He used... Sarcasm!
AWESOME 🤣🤣😂😂😂
Don't Start 🤣🤣😂😂🤪
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@@abdihassan7208 Monty Python "The Piranha Brothers"
I worked in the East End for a while. It has come as a shock that only 32 people were in the Blind Beggar that night, because half of the East End seemed to have been in there from the anecdotes I heard. "Oh my mate's uncle" or "My sister in law's half brother's step sister's dog" were in there that night. heh. Cheers for the upload.
James of course half the people oin the east end knows someone who was in the beggars. Half the people in the east end used to drive the krays around. The other half went to school with then
Same as 10 million ppl claiming to have been at Woodstock. Lol
@@mikeholland1031 I went to the Woodstock2 rave on Billy blundles land, but i don't think you're on about that . 😂
@@sonnytopboy4975 no. I was talking about the real one
Not saying they aren't just claiming BS, but when you take into account how many family members (married or blood), friends, acquaintances, people have you worked with or dated in your own life. Not to mention how many each of those people have people in those categories and multiply it by 32. That easily is believable especially the further down the line the claim becomes. Crazier things have happened
I have met so many people who went to school with the Krays it is estimated that 300,000 went to their school, no wonder they went off the rails.
One of their teachers called them "the salt of the earth".
Brilliant 😂
@Slap-moore Cheeks But low intellect.
His parents sued for brain damage
....yeah judge awarded them £7.50
LOL
With Ronnie, this is one of the few instances (in my opinion) where the actor portraying him _actually_ looks like the real deal. The nose, the eyes, the brow, the fleshy lips, the chin, even the hairline... It's uncanny, the resemblance.
not really, they should have gotten michael jackson or christopher reeve to play the roles
@@MrSimon1909 *and Christopher Reeves won't sit for this NEITHER*
Eee HEEEE!
No they “feature” wise looked similar hardy merely looks more handsome/sharp/ clean
@@MrSimon1909 chuckle brothers
If i had a pound for everytime someone cockney says "yeah they were my uncles, brothers, third cousin twice removed" i'd be rich.
You've earn a pound their
helder skelter same as in Newcastle Very few people had heard of paddy Conroy but when he ended up on tv everyone within the Tyne and Wear Region claimed to know work for or be related to him. All of it made up
Funnily enough...
If had just a penny for everytime I'd heard that......I've have about 23 pence
@@christianmorson3945 never been a full shilling have you.
Gangsters are immortalised infamously, 'no different to any politician.
*Power is Scandal*
LA Thinker. I’ve often wondered why Cliff Richard has flown under the radar for so long and have always assumed that it’s because of his ‘close’ relationship with the Royal Family as was Noel Coward before him. But i dont think there’s any evidence that Noel was interested in little boys. He lived in Jamaica (and died there) with two former chorus boys for well over forty years. But the age gap wasnt much younger than twenty odd years. He also left his entire estate to them except for some money he left to finish the building and restoration to a large church in Teddington in West London where i grew up. The church was never refurbished and i often wondered where that money went.
Churchil was a war criminal and a racist the shoe fits
There is HUGE difference between gangster and politicians bro, they both rubbed elbows but nevertheless two different lifestyles
Alexander Jones not to be against you but please tell me how
@Nigel Kent the cops hate Noye he murdered one.
There’s a big gap about 2/3rds through where I reckon you could fit two more adverts
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hahahahahahaha this made me legit laugh out loud!!!!!
Hail RUclips prime 😆 🤣 😂
@@chiricahuaapache5132 that's a good one that, I'd forgotten about that one
Just found this on RUclips and it is brilliant. The people who are telling the story from the police viewpoint or that of Norman Lucas, Albert Donaghue and other boyos is simply fantastic. Well done.
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i grew up in the fiftys i lived around the corner to the nashes i knew roy and george i had a good freind who wanted me to join him to get friends with the krays he joined them i didnt i could tell you a lot about that time they only wanted money from the rich club and bar owners and beat up the ones who crossed them
SO BORING‼️🥴
One helluva story. A fantastic line-up of interviewees. Top notch editing. Super stuff. 👌
Without a doubt the best documentary on the Krays! I have been intrigued by them since the 80's so I have watched a lot of films etc. Objective, balanced, informed and even taught me a thing or two
they certainly knew how to rule Pity they didnt go on alot longer Yes its a good documentary
Check out the one on the RUclips channel Biography. I thought it was better than this one. Had a lot more information.
boy, Maureen Flanagan aged gracefully compared to those geezers!
You should see her now
@@kylerobinson8636 well she must be about 75 years old by now . I bet she is still a Lady .
“To be honest... I don’t think he knew where to put it while he was married” 😂😂😂 had me in stitches mate 😂😂😂
Haha if reggie was sat at side of him he'd of got a clip round ear ffs 👂👋😂😂
He knew where to put it but that's not where she wanted it.
Put what, Im confused?
@Ricky Bowen Back in those days hairy beavers were the rage,even up into the eighties when i had my first woman.
Anyway,some chicks were particularly hairy.I guess you could liken some, to putting the bottom part of a bikini over a toupee.Most young blokes back then had combs in their back pockets?It wasn't for combing their hair...;)
@@gloriasymes4290
Little Ronnie, in the conjugal bed.
I was investigating the life of my great grandfather Henry Dunn Sayer, an East End local hero. He was awarded many decorations, he held a certificate from the Royal Humane Society, received their medal with bars. His citation was "he never lost a soul." He saved 112 children and one adult from drowning in the local canal, over the course of several years. Everyone was so poor, Charlie Chaplin, another East End boy, just starting out, held two charity concerts for him. When Henry Dunn Sayer died aged 54, the local people and undertakers organized his funeral at Chingford Mount. There was no money for a private plot so he was interred in a common grave. In a curious twist, the Chingford Mount officials decided he should be placed in a mass children's grave, saying he had saved children in life, he would look after them in death. I stood by this pit, turned away and within a few paces, stumbled across monstrous marble tombs. The krays, they are buried close by a man of bravery and honour. Makes one think about who gets the rewards in society. Interesting my great grandfather only ever received multiple bronze decorations...he only saved 113 poor people, not even worth one silver medal.
That a lot to squeeze into 54 years.
You are no doubt very proud of him.
Marble means nothing...it's gaudy.
Your grandfather didn't receive worldly possessions and rewards, his rewards are in heaven!
@Ann, I’m so sorry Ann, nobody ever said life is fair 🤷🏻♀️😢…. What an amazing man .
Yes but we all know now who was the real hero. Real decent good people like your grandfather do what they do in a quiet decent unassuming non violent way, that's the difference between him and these to mindless thugs. People only "respected" them out of fear not love and affection that your grandfather gave and received.
@@blueshirtman8875 The government is worst than The Krays but nobody says anything about them
They need to make a movie about Charlie's hair do. That comb over is epic.
That’s a wig son all day like a box of wire wool with a pulse 🤣
He’s got two different hairstyles I wonder if the barber charged him twice the price 👌👌👌
@@russcooke5671 Nah, the barber had to pay the Twins 🤣
I could listen to these old school British gangsters tell stories all day!!!!
Yas me too
@@mystery4763 And me
Every oap cockney in London :-
“I knew the krays”
🙄of course you did
Hahaha yeah, everyone has a Kray story including my Mum.
But unlike what people seem to believe they actually did put themselves about a bit so maybe they are telling the truth but stay away from people that were in the blind beggar that fateful night because I know of two people that claimed to have been there and also one of them has reinvented the Hebrew language of old by giving it actual vowels it has none and not in the style of runic script either none whatsoever at all at all.
@PavlovsBitch I didn’t actually understand what you said bottom feeders and misrepresentation all of that what do you mean?
@PavlovsBitch do you mean that if you know not what people are going on about you are easily fooled or impressed?
Probably because they were just that prolific.
They interacted with literally everything
And then after sir Cliffs experience with the Krays.......
He slipped into the shadows :-/
:-)
Or the Shadows slipped into Cliff.
With Jimmy Saville.
Anthony Johnson
Lol 😂
Ronnie had a thing for the Young Ones...
Watch the movie Legend, Tom Hardy is awesome as both the twins!
@John Brighton Nah watch the one with Ahardy tom
Watch the original, The Kray's, the Tom Hardy one is good, but the original is a bit better in my opinion
watch the original the kemp brothers thats the best. Im not a fan of legend its too comedic
@@davidfitzgerald4683 I agree
The one with the Kemps is a legend
My grandmother was a widow in Glasgow during the 40s, she would say we're poor but honest. She had six kids one a baby in her arms when my Grandfather was killed, but she didn't steal.
Glorifying crime is never good, I see that with the gangs in my country guns and drugs are rife. It's the families who suffer because of the crims!
Al Capone to garner support from the public dished out a small portion of his ill gotten gains to them! Get real about crims treating their females well, Reggie beat his wife up poor lady, not long after she killed herself.
the way you have that phrase is hilarious it's like he beat her up after she was dead
No one here is glorifying crime but criminals exist because they want power they have existed since the beginning the government r criminals
He did NOT beat her up. Before she was in a relationship with Reggie,she suffered from poor mental health.
People said when the Krays ruled you were safe to walk the streets at night . When Ronnie died a huge amount of people turned out to pay their respects and say goodbye
But not safe rom the Krays.
Imma like this comment cuz of yo pfp ❤️
@@stephenreeds3672 Yeah if you had beef with them. Nowerdays get scum who try jump you.
@@stephenreeds3672 The Krays and 90% of other real gangsters never hurt innocent people.
@Paul Mcbride English...do you speak it??
Tom Hardy was a great actor to play these guys!
Apart from he butchered one of the voices
The original was better
@@bobcrachit6049 Ronnies right ?
@@StarzzyJJASD yes Emma!
@@bobcrachit6049 what he lost in menace he made up for in joy by making me remember Tommy Cooper.
I grew up in Bethnal Green , in the years after the Krays were incarcerated. Everyone I knew had a Kray story. It was amazing how much they were , and to an extent still are, revered as heroes rather than criminals. They did what they did, but that sentiment of sadness when they were locked up still pervades to this day.
Fax
Tell that to the families of the ppl they killed
@@Nyx544 I agree, and I should point out that this in no way reflects my own opinion, merely one that is still quite common in the area
@@Nyx544 or raped
@@Nyx544 the people they killed were all also gangsters. They would of done to them what ronnie and reggie did to them.
The Kray twins were just KRAY, KRAY.........
communistjesus lol 😆 that’s good !
Stolen comment...
@@wyattwhitfield9780 I came here to make this comment, damnit
Ronnie: right I'm get me bat for that joke
communistjesus figure that out on your own?
At an audition for a part in East Enders, actors are required to say " I knew the twins, they were good boys to their dear old mum, and kept the east end safe from villains".
Quite funny that
@@jackmehoffe9372 And it was safe to walk the streets in them days
@@glen7318 not if you're black
what about the Bill? Cowering wife, behind door "He's not here. I didnt even know 'e was Aht.( that's from Gimme gimme.)
Norman Lucas the Mirror reporter must have been inspiration for Paul Whitehouse's drunk old buffer-
"yes there were villians everywhere-but i was very very drunk".
I’m just trying to get to sleep rn
Me too bruv
Same💤💤💤
Go sleep then
I Love the honesty of Charlie Kray and their Associates.
They already served their time why lie about it.
@Christopher Dale if you think that was honesty, don't apply for work as an investigator of any kind... please
That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Charlie's hairstyle was scarier than Ron.
"Well they was two puffs wasn't they to be quiet honest" - Eddie Richardson
Fantastic lol
I will come and find you
Richardsons we’re the real deal. Krays we’re.-unts. Look what they done when they were nicked. Done everyone 😡
Couple off puffs who would off had you
@@stephengold1403 we are coming to find you
Great hairstyle Charlie. Combining the combover and the mullet.
A very well presented documentary, atmospheric and with authentic dialogue!!! Great!
Init
Charlie krays comb over was a crime in itself lol. He should have done time for it.
😂
Agreed 100%
🤣🤣😂😆❤👏👏
My haircut in the early 90's got me a dime in San Quentin. I deserved it.
@@Mc.Garnagle good
I would LOVE to finish watching this, but I cant take a commercial ad every 5 minutes (truly)! TYSM and God bless you all 😘💕🙏🙋♀️
Adblock
God bless you too 😇
At the start of the video, click past each yellow marking it will dissappear do that to each one then go back to the start no ads.
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Stop moaning about adverts. They last 15 seconds max. Miles better than 3/4 mins watching terrestrial tv. Spoilt with tech these days.
My parents and grandparents grew up in this era and always said that is was a much better time to live in. The cockneys were genuinely nice people. Most people didn’t really have anything against the gangsters of this time. They only messed with each other or with people causing trouble. Since the end of the London gangster the city’s underclass has ran rampant.
It is like the States Mafia really, nobody innocent was ever hurt
@@debras1503 🤣😂🤣😂
Rose tinted glasses mate!
@DC Islam is the scourge of the minders western world!
@@debras1503 What about all the innocent law-abiding business's that were extorted for 'protection' money by the mafia? Or made to put mafioso on they payroll for no-show jobs? This was a staple source of mafia income. Your business went up in flames if you said no, or you were killed (as with the brothers who ran the New Jersey refuse business and tried to say no).
Great documentary. I've always been fascinated by the Kray twins.
Me to
@@virgoqueen3106 too
I rerere-watched the film a couple of months ago, with my fella who had never even heard of them. He loved it. It's a favourite of mine.
Why?
It's all myth, they never owned a club, never made any money, never killed anyone....etc it's all lies...they were just petty thieves who were twins who hung out at night clubs.
amazing how the police can be so powerless against organised crime.
They are called the fuzz because their thinking is fuzzy..
glx490 you can only fight violence with violence and the police have to follow rules were criminals dont
They need evidence to lock crims up.
As they said right at the start , the police enforced stupid laws , that even they knew were stupid . Consequently the street people have no respect for them , and see them as ' the enemy ... ' The East End has been that way since Robert Peel's very first police force ...
Yep , the Krays got 30 years to contemplate police failure.
I loved this documentary about the KRAYS. I am an american that loves british drama and british TV.
'I suppose it was a protection racket in a way'.
Of course, paying them was entirely optional.
Your name should be headache , not sore throat.
The Richardson Gang were the ones to watch, Charlie, and Eddie Richardson, thay had intelligence.!
South London boys proper money getters ask fred
And they were a lot harder.
@@brianwilson3952 I hate it when people say that. But yeah they were more organized but I dont think they were that much more powerful that the Krays
Cornell was a Richardson enforcer. Real name George Myers. Met his nephew. He was a bouncer at Dukes nightclub Chelmsford. Great man. All tough as nails.
@RA CW 😂👍
"I bent him up like a pretzel".....
Did you really really hurt him..?
They ruled . They may gave been gangsters but the common people loved them so much. Women were safe to walk the streets at night. The were jailed because they were becoming so powerful they were almost untouchable.
Fear is not the same as respect.
But it keeps you alive longer. Respect and love only last for so long. Sonny from "A Bronx tale" said it best.
Fear is the power
While most here mention the Tom Hardy film about the Krays, I think a much better film about them was released around 1991. It was entitled The Krays. Yes, Tom Hardy’s performance was quite good, but the 1991 film had a better script that shifted the psychological center of the story to the Kray,s mother.
Agreed.
Definitely however I think everyone mentions Tom Hardy because he played both of them.
Absolutely!
Are you talking about the rise of the krays and then the fall of the krays? Definitely had better character interactions throughout the films but the resemblance between the 2 main actors was absolutely terrible 😂
@@keegangrahame5440 The Kray twins in the Tom Hardy film 'Legend' were very watered down versions of them. They were much more violent, smarter and unpredictable than Hardy portrayed. They didn't come across as intimidating , nasty and evil as they actually were. It was a modern take on them and not accurate
All of British aristocracy owe their position to fear, intimidation and violence.
twin Owed... nowadays it's fandom and lethargy.
Very true..but that doesn't make it right!
And you base this on ... ?
Spot on.
Truer words have never been spoken
I can believe that shop owners or small business owners would go to the Krays and ask them for protection. They knew that if people knew that the Krays were looking after their pub or shop then no trouble would happen.
My grandfather used to own a little shop when the krays started to take over. He was forced to pay them protection money. The twins sent over an associate to do the deal. I believe he only met one of the twins just once when he missed a payment. Got away with just a verbal warning
@@dazzamcg2369 You mean he didn't nail your head to the floor?
@@dazzamcg2369 nope
@@dazzamcg2369 Gosh 😳
They were the ones who sent someone to mess up your shop. Don't get it twisted
Brilliant video. Superbly professional. Fascinating accounts from eye witnesses.
I see newspaper journalists haven't changed in 50+ years. Great documentary, thank you for posting.
The geezer at 15.46 is so posh that he sound drunk through the entire documentary.
He was
He sounds like the drunk posh man in the fast show. He was very..........very drunk
I could listen to Norman Lucas's stories all day long. I'm certainly going to buy some of this books, the man is amazing, "Where does this put me, you're an escaper?". love it.
The guy is an absolute cretin. A worm of the highest caliber. A persnickety little pompous weasel. No time for rats 🐀 or the creeps who admire them
I was drinking in the Blind Beggars the night after the shooting of George Cornwall it was practically empty and all night long they played the song by Cher Bang Bang l think back and realise it was quite surreal.
Nancy Sinatra
Wow.
Nah police would have been out of there quick!
Richard Phipps And then you woke up..
I read Chris Lambrianou's book years ago. Out of all of the associates that went down with the Krays in 1969, he is the only one that showed any real remorse for his involvement in the Firm. He served 15 years+ I believe, as he wouldn't turn Queen's evidence. Its a sad story, such a waste...
I believe the book your referring to is called "INSIDE THE FIRM" John. I read it myself man moons ago
Inside the firm was done by Tony lambrianou
"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
-Ron kray
Brilliant video! The Kray’s were the original gangsters with great hair!
Agreed I find it pitiful when I see some mafioso with a bald dome. The Krays looked the part.
At 9.25 the old fella said , '' if the Queen was to walk in '', I bet a load of people did say that when Ronnie walked in, not too loudly though
I also just found a hack to avoid ads throughout yt videos. If you click on a video and notice all the yellow markers showing where ads will be. You fast forward the whole video (slide the red marker to the end) when you replay the video the ads will be gone!!!
It works, but after sliding the red slider to the end, you need to close the video then restart it and the annoying adverts are gone.
Two gold stars and a housepoint for that! 👍
Or just slide the red slider to the end and tap replay.
Cheepskate. Cost of a glass of wine a month..ad free and great music library.
Let's be honest there are people who've done far worse than them since then & didn't have half as long.
Incest and paedos too, people ignore that about them...
Who was the nicest with?
Incest.
@@theresapierce3934 between themselves. And Ronnie's love of young boys was well known
we all make choices, and bullys know how to instill fear through violance, and that is doing evil to your fellow man.
The plural of "bully" is "bullies," as you would know if you spoke English.
DieFlabbergast prat
What about jay’s dads poker tournament
"yeah i suppose it was a protection racket in a way" LOL
Real gentlemen they were. Always shook your hand before they murdered you.
Charlie kray’s voice reminds me so much of my grandad’s.......a real cockney accent! My grandad was kind though lol!
Charlie kray was a real gentleman, loved by many and was the complete opposite to reggie and Ronnie... what happened to Charlie was terrible, he was set up with the shipment of cocaine. because reggies 30 years were almost up, they didn't want two kray brothers on the street. they sent poor Charlie to a prison on a cold island and there was no need to do this.... R.I.P Charlie kray….
Pommie bears charlie kray was a gentlemen the opposite of the twins
Yes..I’m sorry I was wrong. Thanks. 🌹
Unlike the stupid accent many of the east end have now.
Cockney accent is nearly dead
Tom hardy in legend is amazing! If you haven’t seen it definitely watch it!!!
It's Tom Hardy's fifth-best crime film.
The movie isn't that good, but Tom Hardy is amazing. The other Krays movie is better with the Kemp brothers.
He's awful as them
I've always been interested in these two, how they were able to gain and have so much control. They really frightened people and terrorized the East End.
Covid 19 is used to the same ends!
Movie Legend says different
Agree me as well they were born 10/24 and my. B-day is 10/25 not the same age but us Scorpios are a forced to be reckoned with in real life🤷😩
Monsters.
@@blueshirtman8875 what’s worse? The government.
Amazing how delusional people can be to justify benefitting from evil
Greed is an amazing thing.
@Chill Indie a psychopath and his sidekick? what world do you live in in?
@@Dantheman87 what empire, when they died they had nothing, no money, no properties, nothing
@@3socksmorgan485 yeah when they died. Wasn't talking about while they were on their deathbed you tool. Go away before I spaff in your eyes clown
I was drinking in the east end the day the twins got sentenced in every pub I went in people were singing "Ronnie Kray has gone away gone away gone away " to the tune of London bridge is falling down so much for them being loved in East London
Once ! In 1999 I drove down the same road that Ronnie drove down in 1969. Also I looked at a map of east london where the Krays used to live.
🅰🅽🅳 .... 🅶🅸🆅🅴 🆄🆂 🅼🅾🆁🅴
Thaught you were goi g to say once in band camp
The guy who was upset about the guilty charge because they were nice boys looked genuinely upset.
The one lesson is rats always rat out eventually when they have to, love the Kray story watched all the movies, but they were doomed to fail like all organised crime, the problem is they will always rat on each other to save their own necks. There has never been a a big organised crime bust without the ones who turn, even now.
Those lads might have the East End...but Richie and Eddie own Hammersmith
Who cares about hammersmith lol 😂
''Cannonball'' Taffy O' Jones is still after them two
And Eddie was armed 24/7
Whats Hammersmith
Charlie’s comb over mullet is epic, like a pet raccoon.
So their “downfall” was because of snitches. I see
Well, that & they murdered some people.
Sentimental Bloke 1 🤷🏻♀️
Lovely Jasmin killed 2
They murdered people with multiple witnesses standing around watching....stupid is as stupid does.
They also nailed some guy's head to a coffee table & were relentless in their use of sarcasm.
My late grandmother used to live across the road from one of the Krays "associates" who lived with his mum. When the guy got banged up, my nan looked after his mum as she was distraught. One day, my nan had a knock on her door and when she answered it, a big bouquet of flowers was on the door step with a card that just said " Thank you. love from R & R". She said she saw a flash car driving down the road.
ARE YOU PROUD ?
@@gregfrancis5252 are you jealous?
Heard that story several times before, whilst growing up in sauf London.
They were 2 big bullies and very dangerous ,
The Richardson firm were far more dangerous and ruthless.
@@paullangton-rogers2390 Irrelevant to what the op said. Just because someone was worse doesn’t mean the Kray’s weren’t dangerous...
@@paullangton-rogers2390 they were more ruthless but in terms of power and being dangerous they were on par with each other imo
I remember them!!! Yes... Yes I went to school with the Kray Twins. Sure did!!! I am 49 and I have lived in the United States my entire life but I remember them from school. I sat in a desk right in between them. Oh the memories.
😜😜😜😜
😂😂😂😂😂
Funny how that newspaper editor says at the end “that he no scruples, and or morals in conning people” to get a ‘story’ and or a TV series!
All I can say is at least the criminals of that era had some code of conduct unlike journalists and politicians. The double standards and hypocrisy is disgusting!!!
@RA CW totally agree with you there sir 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽
they literally had no code of conduct considering a lot of their power came from tormenting ordinary people just trying to make a living😂😂
That’s not even mentioning the fact that Ron was a literal pedophile lmaooooooooooo
yes, the code of conduct where you nail people's heads to the floor or knife someone that is ''looking at you funny''... that type of code of conduct, you mean?
The east end of London would not be like what it is today if the Krays were in the East End of London
Charlie Kray had the most wonderful speaking voice. Regardless of dropped aitches and his East End accent, it would have been a marvellous one for radio narration of childrens' books. No nasty comments about subject matter, please !
Cramp of the gooch😂😂
The best film of the Krays was played by the Kemp brothers. 💯
Agreed, but Ross Kemp was the best one.
Many working class people were hungry and poor but just weren’t like the evil krays..they worked on the docks or in factories
As a child, I remember a Monty Python skit about the Piranha Brothers that in hindsight was a satire about the Kray twins. They kept talking about the Piranhas nailing people’s heads to the floor.
This was not the Martin Short i was expecting!
Nathan Chisholm
...😅
@@mamamarianovits9029 ;-p
Same🤣
Charlie Kray so innocent; we're not doing anything wrong...😇😇😇
He should of gone to prison for that comb over mullet combination
Everybody wants to be a gangster until they get to hear about the Kray's.
Two bullies who liked little boys and needed 10 people with them to do anything
@david Stepney Costas del sol?
@@superbad3591 their bar fights say something different
It's when they hear about the Krays that they wannabe gangsters most of today's scummys are Kray Groupies they've got posters,tattoos they've seen the films and read every book written by any one who says they knew the Krays all these old faces talking about old school values that only existed in their heads
@@crazytanks2001 they could have a row no one denies that but that's not the same thing as running London
I don't know them, nor do I know what they did but I do know one thing.. Two-headed snake will eventually bite itself.
Not terrible
HAHA ! The old Switcheroo at the Mental Hospital! Now that Is Hilarious!
There mother was my grandfather's cousin . My father all dead and buried now all we have left is knifes n guns and hoods
Okay and believe it or not my dad was Maggie Thatcher.
Their mother had 30,000 cousins.
@@mrfugazi6713 yea so I heard cos the woman u called mum was a he she. Idiot
@@jackwatson3944 the name would suit your mum. Downtown
Two guys you didn't mess with. Ronnie especially.
"-How large was Norman?"
"-Well, often he could be about 5 meters long, but sometimes everything up to 600 meters..."
They were born......... on probation.
And he nailed my head to the floor...
He nailed your head to the floor?!
Ugh....at first, yeah....
There was a time when there was respect for the general public
Exactly
When was that then? Ive been here seventy odd years and can't remember when life was like that
@@michaelharrison3602 I still believe 99% of people are good
Yah....back when you were washing the Krays nut sacks with your mouth
@@mjb4983 it's a beautiful hope....
I can't hear this video the volume seems very low even set on full
em 8782 get your hearing aid fixed
@@petergraphic5394 ur stupid if u think it sounds normal
Back in Bronze - Iron age they would have become local nobles, maybe kings even. But then, nowadays there's no room for new nobility.
@pammens miss
They are Germans idiot. A German is ruling England 🤫
Wtf... 'nobody thought they'd be sentenced for 30 years'.... No?.. After murdering at least 3 people and probably a lot more, nailing people to floors, intimidating decent business owners etc.... Pair of psychos got what they richly deserved.
One of those people they killed caused a woman to be paralyzed for life and got away with it and the other 2 started the fight with the krays
If the twins did these crimes before 1964, they would have been hung. Hanging was abolished in 64.
Sometimes your the pigeon, sometimes your the statue.
Some things never change, there's still no faith in the police or the law in most of the UK
Can you blame them ????????
And rightly so!
In those days the public an implicit trust in the police. Unfortunately that has changed!
That's Kray Kray...
Lol 😂 xx