Great video as usual, Karen! Very interesting new formula!! I don't usually torch fire, but this clay *does* open up possibilities for kiln-firing with embedded natural gemstones because of the low firing temps. Hmm... 🤔😲😃
This is a lot cheaper than a casting house I ordered a prototype piece from. The high shrinkage will need some testing to compensate for, though; too bad there are no non-precious versions for that testing. I look forward to picking up some soon!!! Now, if only it came in gold!
Hello, metal clay is available in copper and bronze as well! Check out our copper clay here: cooltools.us/collections/cyprusa-copper-clay and our bronze clay here: cooltools.us/collections/aureus%E2%84%A2-bright-bronze-clay Metal clay also comes in gold, you can find it here: cooltools.us/collections/gold-clay Check out our Learning Center if you're interested in learning even more! We're always happy to help if you want to reach out directly too - sales@cooltools.us or 888.478.5060.
@@cooltoolsvideos The bronze alloys do not shrink nearly as much, and this silver clay is the only one that can be fired with a torch. That is what I meant. They are all really cool alternatives to casting for people with a kiln. Very cool products.
Hi Karen, thank you for this incredible video! I've been having a few issues with the Phoenix Torch Fireable clay and cannot find tips to fix them online anywhere. When I first open a new pack of clay it works great at first but then will become hard to use and starts to separate and crack when using for a second time. I have tried adding moisture and also keep any leftover clay in my hydrator container, but adding moisture seems to make the separation even worse. Do you have any tips for this? Additionally, I have had a few projects break after firing recently when I tested out the strength very lightly. I am not sure if I need to fire for longer or if this is normal with thinner pieces, but they seem to be breaking far too easily. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, I was used to using the Mitsubishi PMC clay so this has been an adjustment for sure!
Hello, whenever I do anything that might have a drying action on the clay, such as rolling it into a sheet or rolling it into a coil, I’ll brush or apply some moisture to the clay and immediately fold it in. Just applying the moisture to the top of it doesn’t seem to help much as the clay is dense enough that it doesn’t readily absorb added moisture unless it’s incorporated in. Could we inquire as to what method of firing you are using or what firing schedule you are using that is resulting in the breaking pieces?
I have a rhodolite garnet that is torchable according to the cooltools fireable gems chart, but is also low fire. Does that affect how I torch it, or do I torch all gems the same way?
Yes, you can do that, but it would be much easier to make a greenware embellishment and attach it to the ring shank with clay and then fire! Hope this helps!
Yes, normally we do not recommend torch firing pieces that take abuse like rings, but due to the density of Phoenix, rings that have been torch fired hold up perfectly well! We've been testing a few torch fired rings, wearing them daily for close to a year now without issue.
I would like to fire my Phoenix clay pieces with a trinket kiln. Would the time be different from kiln fired suggestions on the card - I'm assuming the card refers to a larger kiln and not a trinket kiln?
Hi Jennifer, that is correct. The firing temperature and times on the card are for a standard table top kiln. If you can tell us what trinket kiln you are using we can help you in how to best fire your pieces.
Hello, you can find this product in lump, syringe or paste form here: cooltools.us/collections/phoenix-torch-fireable-clay%E2%84%A2 Feel free to reach out with any questions, we're happy to help!
Cool, although Precious Metal Clay is like saying Kleenex, except PMC is going to be extinct, unless Cooltools bought the formula from Mitsubishi?? Hmmm.... If not say silver metal clay.
J`en ai acheté 2 x pas la nouvelle bien sûr mais...et je trouve juste dommage que cette pâte soit aussi cher et cassante si mal cuit. Le $ CA vs le $ US nous coûte cher ici au Québec. + le taux de change à 1.5% + le frais de livraison ...c`est plus cher qu`acheté de la belle l`argent pur.
Hello, if you are located in Canada, we recommend Metal Clay Alchemist. They carry our metal clays and many other products. This should help the cost for you to purchase in your country.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights. Great video!
Great video as usual, Karen! Very interesting new formula!! I don't usually torch fire, but this clay *does* open up possibilities for kiln-firing with embedded natural gemstones because of the low firing temps. Hmm... 🤔😲😃
Thanks so much for this excellent, informative, clearly presented look at Cool Tools’ new Phoenix metal clay formula. I’m really excited about this! ❤
Great video thanks. Very informative and interesting.
Thanks so much for watching!
Great video. Love the poison rigng
This is a lot cheaper than a casting house I ordered a prototype piece from. The high shrinkage will need some testing to compensate for, though; too bad there are no non-precious versions for that testing. I look forward to picking up some soon!!! Now, if only it came in gold!
Hello, metal clay is available in copper and bronze as well! Check out our copper clay here: cooltools.us/collections/cyprusa-copper-clay
and our bronze clay here: cooltools.us/collections/aureus%E2%84%A2-bright-bronze-clay
Metal clay also comes in gold, you can find it here: cooltools.us/collections/gold-clay
Check out our Learning Center if you're interested in learning even more! We're always happy to help if you want to reach out directly too - sales@cooltools.us or 888.478.5060.
@@cooltoolsvideos The bronze alloys do not shrink nearly as much, and this silver clay is the only one that can be fired with a torch. That is what I meant. They are all really cool alternatives to casting for people with a kiln. Very cool products.
Hi Karen, thank you for this incredible video! I've been having a few issues with the Phoenix Torch Fireable clay and cannot find tips to fix them online anywhere. When I first open a new pack of clay it works great at first but then will become hard to use and starts to separate and crack when using for a second time. I have tried adding moisture and also keep any leftover clay in my hydrator container, but adding moisture seems to make the separation even worse. Do you have any tips for this? Additionally, I have had a few projects break after firing recently when I tested out the strength very lightly. I am not sure if I need to fire for longer or if this is normal with thinner pieces, but they seem to be breaking far too easily. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, I was used to using the Mitsubishi PMC clay so this has been an adjustment for sure!
Hello, whenever I do anything that might have a drying action on the clay, such as rolling it into a sheet or rolling it into a coil, I’ll brush or apply some moisture to the clay and immediately fold it in. Just applying the moisture to the top of it doesn’t seem to help much as the clay is dense enough that it doesn’t readily absorb added moisture unless it’s incorporated in. Could we inquire as to what method of firing you are using or what firing schedule you are using that is resulting in the breaking pieces?
I have a rhodolite garnet that is torchable according to the cooltools fireable gems chart, but is also low fire. Does that affect how I torch it, or do I torch all gems the same way?
Hello, you would torch fire the piece the same way as any other piece if your stone can be torch fired. Hope this helps!
can you make a green ware embellishment and torch solder it to a ring shank?
Yes, you can do that, but it would be much easier to make a greenware embellishment and attach it to the ring shank with clay and then fire! Hope this helps!
Could you comment on what the shrinkage like, compared to other fine silver clays?
Hello, Phoenix shrinks 15-20%. FS999 shrinks 13% and Art Clay Silver shrinks 8-9%. Hope this helps!
Is it possible to torch fire this clay, so that it would be strong enough for a ring?
Yes, normally we do not recommend torch firing pieces that take abuse like rings, but due to the density of Phoenix, rings that have been torch fired hold up perfectly well! We've been testing a few torch fired rings, wearing them daily for close to a year now without issue.
I would like to fire my Phoenix clay pieces with a trinket kiln. Would the time be different from kiln fired suggestions on the card - I'm assuming the card refers to a larger kiln and not a trinket kiln?
Hi Jennifer, that is correct. The firing temperature and times on the card are for a standard table top kiln. If you can tell us what trinket kiln you are using we can help you in how to best fire your pieces.
How do we find this PMC?
Hello, you can find this product in lump, syringe or paste form here: cooltools.us/collections/phoenix-torch-fireable-clay%E2%84%A2
Feel free to reach out with any questions, we're happy to help!
Is this clay .999 silver?
Yes, Phoenix is .999 fine silver.
Cool, although Precious Metal Clay is like saying Kleenex, except PMC is going to be extinct, unless Cooltools bought the formula from Mitsubishi?? Hmmm.... If not say silver metal clay.
Hello, we have not purchased any formulas from Mitsubishi, and it's our understanding that no one will be. Thank you for watching!
J`en ai acheté 2 x pas la nouvelle bien sûr mais...et je trouve juste dommage que cette pâte soit aussi cher et cassante si mal cuit. Le $ CA vs le $ US nous coûte cher ici au Québec. + le taux de change à 1.5% + le frais de livraison ...c`est plus cher qu`acheté de la belle l`argent pur.
Hello, if you are located in Canada, we recommend Metal Clay Alchemist. They carry our metal clays and many other products. This should help the cost for you to purchase in your country.