Also a sled question - why don't you use a weight with yours? I have the same one you use in this video. I like that a 25# weight I cribbed from a weight lifting set fits perfectly. Hardly any recoil even from my largest calibers.
@@WHOTEEWHO THANK YOU N YOUR VERY WELCOME , it was my pleasure serving our country n our beloved military from 93' to 97' active here ! , thanks again n talk soon brotha adam , keep em coming > tom !
I used to be proud of being a marine who served overseas twice then you get in your 30s and realize Iraq and Afghanistan were political motivated and a damn shame...lol but non the less Salute to all those who came before myself and others who didn't come home 🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇸
I’m Air Force Retired! Thank you and dito to all who served. And sir, please don’t be ashamed of your service during Afghanistan or Iraq. It may have been politically motivated but if we hadn’t left Afghanistan or Iraq they’d probably be better places today. Remember Vietnam and Korea. We left Vietnam and are still in Korea. Now compare them. Thank you sir. Your service was much more dangerous than mine.
@@garyhosier4765 happy mem. day to you zoomie brotha , lol, lol, from a old jarhead 93' to 97' active ! , my dad was in the chair force during korea war , talk soon bro > tom !
It's crazy how much time you put in on that bench. It is appreciated. Even if it's a rifle or caliber I'd never be interested in I still watch because you can get more out of a rifle with factory ammo than a lot of reloaders could ever dream. 👍
@@DasGoodSoup because the average shooter doesn't shoot .25" groups whether they are a reloader or not. He can usually get a .50" from factory ammo consistently and often times better than that.
The only factory ammo I shoot is 22LR cuz I am poor. It is still very cool to see slinger reviews with off the shelf ammo for a realistic comparison between brands n models.
This might have already been suggested, but when testing all copper boooolots, start with a clean barrel. Like clean to bare steel, Barnes and and Hammer actually note this for the best groups. All copper bullets tend to not like gilding copper from jacketed bullets in the barrel. You can go from all copper to jacketed but not the other way.
WhoTee, I've had nothing but great results from 165 grainers. I have an old 1968 Model 70 Winchester 30-06 that love them, especially those 165 BTSP, it also loves the newer SSTs. Love the channel man, keep up the good work.
I love watching wild cat reviews, but I'm old school. I stick to the tried and true original calibers. Wishing all my southern brothers and sisters a big ol (and most respectable) Happ y Memorial Day from Canada.
Try a 165 in the copper. I'm a Barnes TTSX fan. As you know copper is lighter than led so a 165 gr bullet in copper is longer than a 165gr bullet in led which changes the BC of the bullet. I haven't checked on the 30 calibers but I have with my 243 the 85gr Barnes TTSX is a little longer than the 100gr led bullets so I'm faster with better accuracy. May I add that our military men and women should never be forgotten. They are the best in the world hands down. If our leaders of this nation want to take care of anybody in the world then our military men and women should take priority. May God Bless Our Military Men And Women Who Paid The Ultimate Price So That We May Be Free. May God bless all of the families of soldiers here at home and abroad. Thanks Adam for the videos and I hope you and your family along with the WHO TEE WHO family has a safe Memorial Day.
@tolt1776 Yes, 165 gr of copper and 165 gr of led are the same but copper is lighter than led so the bullet will be slightly longer. Copper's density is 8.96 grams per cubic centimeter. Lead density is 11.4 grams per cubic centimeter. Copper and lead bullets of the same weight, the copper bullet is typically longer.
@maxloader5278 fairly certain you can't have "longer" bullets...they wouldn't fit in the barrel? One can have longer bullets in a cartridge designed for them..6.5, prc, etc....but a 308 copper and a 308 lead are the same dimensions otherwise it wouldn't work.
I have a Brn and Rem 30-06. Both of those prefer 165 - 168gr projectiles. 150 gr is ok/serviceable and 180 gr is ok. 165 gr is the magic number for both of those. But, as we know, guns can be persnickety about ammo. Thank you for the video - well done.
I’ve tried that American whitetail in a few different caliber slingers of mine and could never get good groups. Always have had good luck with any one of federal’s flavours
I have had relatively good luck with the Hornady American Whitetail in 308 & 270 . Using 150 SP and 140 SP . The rifles in the 308 were Mossberg Patriot , Christianson Arms Mesa Joe & Remington 783 . In the 270 win I used my old stand by a Santa Barbara Mauser the thing can be a tack driver until she gets warm then things open up.
winchestrer used to have a all copper hollow point. My 3006 loved it and it's excellent on deer. They replaced the copper hollow points with the copper tipped bullets. Ive tried them in my 06 and .308 and out of both guns they both hated these new red tipped copper bullets. i was using 150 grains for both. Luckily my 06 likes the barnes ttsx with hardly any point of impact change so i have something lined up after i use up all of my hollow points. great videos man
Good budget option rifle. Very good groups for the most part. I would look at that Whitetail from Hornady again. That looked like it wanted to group but that 2nd shot drifted off. Thank you. Are you going to chronograph any of these? Oh never mind I just remembered what happened to your chronograph...lol.
Awesome shooter! I’m surprised you haven’t had any luck with 165 grainers. Each of my 30 slingers, as well as my buddies WsM slingers, like them. Did you reshoot the 1.87” group to see if it did better?
That’s a deer catching machine right there, I’ve had nothing but good results with a 300wsm and I got a couple of buddies that went the way of the 300wsm too . Thanks for the videos WTW
@WhoTeeWho As someone who has tried a lot of different ammo, what do you think about Hornady's new 'drag variability reduction technology'? Its supposed to reduce the number of 'flyers' like with those 165gr rounds. I watched their podcast introducing it. It looks to me like it acts like a 'drag reducing aerospike'. Have you heard anything about that? Have you tried them? I'd like to see a video where you test them against bullets you know make tight groups from your most accurate rifles. It would be cool to get bc as similar as you can when choosing which rounds to put up against the new Hornady bullets. Thanks for another fun video!
Great video whotee seems like those 110's are definitely worth the beans. Can we get a 6 arc ammo test video? Hornady, hsm and druid hills ammo? They have from 58grain up to 108gr 👀
Adam I have a few questions for you concerning Winchesters short mag offerings. Though I love the Remington 8mm Magnum, I’d like to get my hands on a 325 Short Mag. Can you keep your eye open for either chambering?
Just ordered same rifle due to your videos on it have you tried the 150gr tipped corelok yet that all I can find other than 200gr hornady precision hunter
Thank you sir for showing us on different ammo can do sir but as i am in air rifles mode but in rifles and Air rifles that the barrel chose the ammo no matter if its a powder burners or air power in most cases it comes down to the barrel what it's like sir i don't know if this is the truth or not sir please let me know please thank you sir
My Savage M110 Long Range Hunter in 300 WSM was accurate with the American 🇺🇸 Whitetail 🦌 165s, but wasn’t consistent with my reloads using 165 grain Accubonds. Great shooting otherwise and it’s nice to see about 4-5 different loads worked well for you
Adam , I have to concur the 165 gr projectile hasn't been the best performer. Until she met my Swiss K- 31 then things changed. The ole Swiss Miss loves 165 gr Speer . But then again I haven't really had a Bullet that the Swiss girl didn't like..keep them groups tight.
Talking about Copper ammo. Here where I live hunters are not allowed to use lead ammo when hunting near rivers or marshland. So they use copper our brass bullets.
Very impressed with that savage Great Video, I will add if you watch hornady video on gun Maintenance they will tell you they clean their 500 test guns and advise the same with copper.Did you know the pressure in your barrel will increase with each shot without cleaning your gun. Eric Cortina cleans his guns 24-7. He will tell you the most accurate shot is with a clean cold barrel each subsequent shot will loose accuracy , how much accuracy depends upon the grade of the barrel. You already know that, I did see a picture of you with the great Eric Cortina, anyway that was a very good video.
Should I go 7 PRC or 300 WSM? I won’t go 300 PRC because the rifles are more expensive in it. I’m worried about 300 WSM falling out and while I think 7 PRC will be here a while.
As always good videos WTW 300 wsm is a fun round to play with I’m tempted to buy a trail hunter every video I’ve on them are positive so far ! Good deal love savage 110’s
Do you keep your targets to reference for when you're going to shoot a particular gun in the future . Or how do you keep track of which ammo for the gun.
@@WHOTEEWHO ain't no way I'ma clean after every shot not even my muzzlebuster gets cleaned after every shot. It actually shoots better with a dirty barrel. Was just wondering about the copper bullets I hadn't shot any till I got some in 22-250 Barnes tax 50 grainers and I was wondering about that thanks for clearing that up for me
I’ve watched a few different videos on other channels on them shooting the Hornady Whitetail ammo and it doesn’t matter what caliber it never shoots accurate
Wish I had video for u but funny u say that about 165 I shoot 165 Barnes out of my 300 win mag and that gun loves them but they are hand loads never tried factory
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WtW question do you still use the caldwell stinger? And what do you think of it so far?
Also a sled question - why don't you use a weight with yours?
I have the same one you use in this video. I like that a 25# weight I cribbed from a weight lifting set fits perfectly. Hardly any recoil even from my largest calibers.
..Bondstrike 👍
And greetings to Ron to😘🖕😘
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wierd my 30-06 shoots 165gr and touching is normal hmm
Thanks to all that have served and sacrificed.
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@@WHOTEEWHO THANK YOU N YOUR VERY WELCOME , it was my pleasure serving our country n our beloved military from 93' to 97' active here ! , thanks again n talk soon brotha adam , keep em coming > tom !
I used to be proud of being a marine who served overseas twice then you get in your 30s and realize Iraq and Afghanistan were political motivated and a damn shame...lol but non the less Salute to all those who came before myself and others who didn't come home 🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇸
I’m Air Force Retired! Thank you and dito to all who served. And sir, please don’t be ashamed of your service during Afghanistan or Iraq. It may have been politically motivated but if we hadn’t left Afghanistan or Iraq they’d probably be better places today. Remember Vietnam and Korea. We left Vietnam and are still in Korea. Now compare them. Thank you sir. Your service was much more dangerous than mine.
@@garyhosier4765 happy mem. day to you zoomie brotha , lol, lol, from a old jarhead 93' to 97' active ! , my dad was in the chair force during korea war , talk soon bro > tom !
It's always insightful to see real-world group testing with different factory loads.
It's crazy how much time you put in on that bench. It is appreciated. Even if it's a rifle or caliber I'd never be interested in I still watch because you can get more out of a rifle with factory ammo than a lot of reloaders could ever dream. 👍
Appreciate you watching
Why would reloaders be jealous of factory ammo 😂😂 u making nonsense comments
@@DasGoodSoup because the average shooter doesn't shoot .25" groups whether they are a reloader or not. He can usually get a .50" from factory ammo consistently and often times better than that.
The only factory ammo I shoot is 22LR cuz I am poor. It is still very cool to see slinger reviews with off the shelf ammo for a realistic comparison between brands n models.
I think it’s clean the barrel before using the copper. Not after. 168 does great in the 30-06 copper that is.
She’s a keeper for sure shooting all that difference stuff that good.
This might have already been suggested, but when testing all copper boooolots, start with a clean barrel. Like clean to bare steel, Barnes and and Hammer actually note this for the best groups. All copper bullets tend to not like gilding copper from jacketed bullets in the barrel. You can go from all copper to jacketed but not the other way.
WhoTee, I've had nothing but great results from 165 grainers. I have an old 1968 Model 70 Winchester 30-06 that love them, especially those 165 BTSP, it also loves the newer SSTs. Love the channel man, keep up the good work.
My 30-06 loves 165 partitions with a max load of IMR 4350. 3/4” or better groups. Great for partitions, but elk don’t care for it!
@@nmelkhunter1 I'll bet they don't! hahaha! My rifle loves the 4350 powder too!
@@bobellis1022 True! 🤠 Best of luck in the field!
Sweet slinger ! Enjoy Memorial day ! Alot of people in the Armed Forces paid a Huge price for our freedoms !
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Thanks for the Ammo Comparison Adam 👍. Great deal on the Savage 👉🎯! Cheers 🍻🙏🇨🇦.
I'm impressed with the Trail Hunter.👍👍
Me too
I love watching wild cat reviews, but I'm old school. I stick to the tried and true original calibers. Wishing all my southern brothers and sisters a big ol (and most respectable) Happ y Memorial Day from Canada.
No its clean the barrel before shooting copper bullets, if accuracy is not good.
I love your channel. I like budget rifles better than my Spendy ones great vids !!
Appreciate you watching
Try a 165 in the copper. I'm a Barnes TTSX fan. As you know copper is lighter than led so a 165 gr bullet in copper is longer than a 165gr bullet in led which changes the BC of the bullet. I haven't checked on the 30 calibers but I have with my 243 the 85gr Barnes TTSX is a little longer than the 100gr led bullets so I'm faster with better accuracy. May I add that our military men and women should never be forgotten. They are the best in the world hands down. If our leaders of this nation want to take care of anybody in the world then our military men and women should take priority. May God Bless Our Military Men And Women Who Paid The Ultimate Price So That We May Be Free. May God bless all of the families of soldiers here at home and abroad. Thanks Adam for the videos and I hope you and your family along with the WHO TEE WHO family has a safe Memorial Day.
165 grains of copper and lead weigh the same.
@tolt1776 Yes, 165 gr of copper and 165 gr of led are the same but copper is lighter than led so the bullet will be slightly longer. Copper's density is 8.96 grams per cubic centimeter. Lead density is 11.4 grams per cubic centimeter. Copper and lead bullets of the same weight, the copper bullet is typically longer.
@maxloader5278 fairly certain you can't have "longer" bullets...they wouldn't fit in the barrel? One can have longer bullets in a cartridge designed for them..6.5, prc, etc....but a 308 copper and a 308 lead are the same dimensions otherwise it wouldn't work.
Led lights have nothing to do with the density of LEAD
@tolt1776 I guess you do know the difference in the spelling of of lights and metal lol
WhoTee u crack me up. God bless our America. Just bought the 110 TH in 308win for zombies at 700yds.
Sweeeeet
I have a Brn and Rem 30-06. Both of those prefer 165 - 168gr projectiles. 150 gr is ok/serviceable and 180 gr is ok. 165 gr is the magic number for both of those. But, as we know, guns can be persnickety about ammo. Thank you for the video - well done.
Have you considered using a Doppler radar chronograph when shooting? Seeing the velocity average of factory ammo would be informative. Thank you!
Yup gonna get one
I’ve tried that American whitetail in a few different caliber slingers of mine and could never get good groups. Always have had good luck with any one of federal’s flavours
I have had relatively good luck with the Hornady American Whitetail in 308 & 270 . Using 150 SP and 140 SP . The rifles in the 308 were Mossberg Patriot , Christianson Arms Mesa Joe & Remington 783 . In the 270 win I used my old stand by a Santa Barbara Mauser the thing can be a tack driver until she gets warm then things open up.
The 165 American whitetail is the only bullet I've tried my 300wsm doesn't like
It's fascinating to see how different loads perform under similar conditions.
winchestrer used to have a all copper hollow point. My 3006 loved it and it's excellent on deer. They replaced the copper hollow points with the copper tipped bullets. Ive tried them in my 06 and .308 and out of both guns they both hated these new red tipped copper bullets. i was using 150 grains for both. Luckily my 06 likes the barnes ttsx with hardly any point of impact change so i have something lined up after i use up all of my hollow points. great videos man
Ive waited all day to watch part two lol cant wait!
Thanks for watching
I have an old Remington Mohawk 600 in .308, 18" bbl, it loves 165 and 168 grain bullets.
The butterflies love your spot. 🎉
Yeah, they are everywhere
Have a great holiday weekend buddy. God bless y'all 👍
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Good budget option rifle. Very good groups for the most part. I would look at that Whitetail from Hornady again. That looked like it wanted to group but that 2nd shot drifted off.
Thank you. Are you going to chronograph any of these? Oh never mind I just remembered what happened to your chronograph...lol.
My Winchester model 70 in 270 loves the Winchester copper impact
Just got home, couldn't road watch through the mountains...gonna watch now.
We missed you!
Awesome shooter! I’m surprised you haven’t had any luck with 165 grainers. Each of my 30 slingers, as well as my buddies WsM slingers, like them. Did you reshoot the 1.87” group to see if it did better?
I did not retry
That’s a deer catching machine right there, I’ve had nothing but good results with a 300wsm and I got a couple of buddies that went the way of the 300wsm too . Thanks for the videos WTW
Hay y'all, I hope y'all are having a good evening
I love the short mags. I want to find a 7mm WSM. I currently hunt with a 325 WSM, super expensive ammo but a darn good round
@WhoTeeWho As someone who has tried a lot of different ammo, what do you think about Hornady's new 'drag variability reduction technology'? Its supposed to reduce the number of 'flyers' like with those 165gr rounds. I watched their podcast introducing it. It looks to me like it acts like a 'drag reducing aerospike'. Have you heard anything about that? Have you tried them? I'd like to see a video where you test them against bullets you know make tight groups from your most accurate rifles. It would be cool to get bc as similar as you can when choosing which rounds to put up against the new Hornady bullets.
Thanks for another fun video!
Haven't heard about it
Thanks for the testing. The last ones sign my pay check!
Great video whotee seems like those 110's are definitely worth the beans.
Can we get a 6 arc ammo test video?
Hornady, hsm and druid hills ammo?
They have from 58grain up to 108gr 👀
Working on getting an arc
Adam I have a few questions for you concerning Winchesters short mag offerings. Though I love the Remington 8mm Magnum, I’d like to get my hands on a 325 Short Mag. Can you keep your eye open for either chambering?
Never seen one before. Must be super rare
Not rare. A few of my buddies shoot the 325wsm. Just not popular
Just ordered same rifle due to your videos on it have you tried the 150gr tipped corelok yet that all I can find other than 200gr hornady precision hunter
Looks like a keeper!...
Really good video..! It has a metal box mag,it holds 3of those fat boys...AND it fits FLUSH !
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My 300WSM loves the Hornady 165 InterBonds. Luckily I bought a sleeve of 500 before they discontinued them.
I been hunting with a 300wsm for many years and I have had awesome luck with the Winchester ballistic silver tip 150 gr
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You should do a chassi in that. I believe you can do MDT. I’ve been really thinkin about it.
Thank you sir for showing us on different ammo can do sir but as i am in air rifles mode but in rifles and Air rifles that the barrel chose the ammo no matter if its a powder burners or air power in most cases it comes down to the barrel what it's like sir i don't know if this is the truth or not sir please let me know please thank you sir
My Savage M110 Long Range Hunter in 300 WSM was accurate with the American 🇺🇸 Whitetail 🦌 165s, but wasn’t consistent with my reloads using 165 grain Accubonds.
Great shooting otherwise and it’s nice to see about 4-5 different loads worked well for you
You got the old 300 shooting great !!!
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Who tee who is the best content creator on youtube.
🙏🙏🙏 I appreciate you watching!
Those norma bondstrike are good same bullet i used last year devastating on deer 🦌
You love making these types of videos and I love watching them 😄👍👍
Appreciate you watching
Adam , I have to concur the 165 gr projectile hasn't been the best performer. Until she met my Swiss K- 31 then things changed. The ole Swiss Miss loves 165 gr Speer . But then again I haven't really had a Bullet that the Swiss girl didn't like..keep them groups tight.
That things definitely shoots great !!
Please try those Winchester boxes and the Norma Bondstrike at 200.
Talking about Copper ammo. Here where I live hunters are not allowed to use lead ammo when hunting near rivers or marshland. So they use copper our brass bullets.
Very impressed with that savage Great Video, I will add if you watch hornady video on gun Maintenance they will tell you they clean their 500 test guns and advise the same with copper.Did you know the pressure in your barrel will increase with each shot without cleaning your gun. Eric Cortina cleans his guns 24-7. He will tell you the most accurate shot is with a clean cold barrel each subsequent shot will loose accuracy , how much accuracy depends upon the grade of the barrel. You already know that, I did see a picture of you with the great Eric Cortina, anyway that was a very good video.
Should I go 7 PRC or 300 WSM? I won’t go 300 PRC because the rifles are more expensive in it. I’m worried about 300 WSM falling out and while I think 7 PRC will be here a while.
Probably be fine with either
@@WHOTEEWHO you’re going to make me by both😂
Man, that gun shoots most everything good.
Gonna be hard to beat that 3 shots in same hole stuff
Two great videos, brother, for the.300 short mag
Would love to see the Barnes out of it..TTSX would be interesting. If had the money I'd send you a box.
If possible try the Sako ammo. It is very available in my area
That’s pretty cool how you had a butterfly photo bombing you
Jerked trigger on the 2nd shot Am WT
Who tee have you tried winchester accubond 180 gr 300wsm? I tried a bunch of ammo and the accubond shot a 3/4" 3 shot group @100yrs.
I have not
Another great video Adam
Thanks for watching!
My savage likes the Winchester copper impact with a Boyd stock
I got the copper impact for my 270 wsm browning and it groups 3” totally hates it and one case slit
As always good videos WTW 300 wsm is a fun round to play with I’m tempted to buy a trail hunter every video I’ve on them are positive so far ! Good deal love savage 110’s
Do you keep your targets to reference for when you're going to shoot a particular gun in the future . Or how do you keep track of which ammo for the gun.
Nope. I go back and watch the videoa
Hey, do you break-in your barrels. Also I love your channel 😎
I do not. Appreciate you watching
Where do you find your ammo? If you don’t mind me asking I have trouble finding ammo for 270 WSM
All over. I stop everywhere I can
Why do you need to clean your barrel after shooting a copper bullet isn't it the same as shooting a copper jacketed bullet
Oh I rarely clean anything. Some people say you should clean after every shot 🤷♂️🤣
@@WHOTEEWHO ain't no way I'ma clean after every shot not even my muzzlebuster gets cleaned after every shot. It actually shoots better with a dirty barrel. Was just wondering about the copper bullets I hadn't shot any till I got some in 22-250 Barnes tax 50 grainers and I was wondering about that thanks for clearing that up for me
Adam how come your not running the .308 cal banish can? You have the one that’s like 7 ounces ?
I like to switch em up. Had that on another
how long does a barrel vibrate after being shot, this might be the reason that some shots whiff
Deer Season XP out of my 300 WSM best was .66 and it does that consistently. Lives the stuff
I’ve watched a few different videos on other channels on them shooting the Hornady Whitetail ammo and it doesn’t matter what caliber it never shoots accurate
I am having a heck of a time getting 300wsm ammo to you have any suggestions to buy from
Internet. Remington dot com. Ammoseek
This is about to be a real fun video
Most bullets, being copper jacketed does not mean you need to clean your barrel more often
Did you order this? I don’t see 300 wsm even being an option to buy.
Ordered from my ffl. Shows it on the savage website
I think you could use one of these works great love your videos
I need to ask why dont u have weight for ur sled ?
Just more to lug out and cost $
Never had much luck with all copper on animal's.i do load alot of V-Max.
You might want to add lead or weight to your lead sled...helps to keep it from moving around during recoil AND reduces felt recoil...just say'n
Let’s gooooo boy
Heyo
Great video man.
Thanks for watching
Ok you talked me into a new Savage boolit slinger it's on it's way. 30-06 cause I got a bunch of ammo.
👍😊 you have verity in good ones.
Does it come in 416 ruger
Whootie, You'd be just plain NUTS if you let that one go.
308 lives 165 or 168 . ½" groups all day long with them
Wtw is the next ron Spomer ..give it 5-10yrs ..wtw will be filling those shoes
No better teacher then pure experience and age
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165/168 gr have been good out of my 308 other than American Whitetail.
All were well within 1 degree of elk.
Great video buddy
Thanks!
Wish I had video for u but funny u say that about 165 I shoot 165 Barnes out of my 300 win mag and that gun loves them but they are hand loads never tried factory
Gun is a tikka
I like reloading 165gr SST with 760win for my 300wsm. Good deer round.
Cool stuff 🇺🇸👍
Remember the fallen who gave their all for all Americans. 👍😎💯🙏
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I find 165's gr in lower grain power shoots sub moa in 30 cal
huh shotin... shootin i mean
Ron say clean that barrel before copper……