It looks awesome. has a big presence on the road. The Crown is back! Toyota quality and reliability🤩 Made in Japan!!!! Crown Platinum is the way to go. great features.
Saw this car in recent local news in LA . being stolen off a dealer lot and crashing through some metal gates without shuddering or losing a side mirror. The thief drove through two gates and went sailing down Santa Monica Blvd. First time I was impressed by this car
What a dummy for stealing this pile of 'technology' Pick something that will have some future value to it. This machine will be passed over like a cold hamburger.
I think it lost the side right mirror when it crashed through the gate when it went into the mainroad in front of the camera. But then again it’s made in Japan so I’m not too impressed. Still impressed though. Perhaps we all know on the inside that Toyota is going down the planned obsolescence route nowadays so much that we are impressed?
Today I learned that the looks are objective and aluminum isn't metal. But seriously, as usual with your reviews I learned a lot more about a car that I already thought I knew a lot about. Thanks for the great content.
Okay! aluminum is a non-ferrous metal but still a metal, just as iron, steel, copper, nickel, silver, gold, and brass are metals. Get yourself a Lexus ES. The Crown is a Clown.
Wish you were near York Pennsylvania. You are one of the few honest car technicians. That's why I perform my own maintenance and repairs. It seems like everyone tries to rip you off.
Just got my Crown Plat 2 weeks ago & absolutely love it. I generally try to feather it for economy but when I've needed the power it's there instantly!
Hi AMD, thank you for the wide-open honest review of the Crown and differences between the models drivetrain. I was so struck by the 0W-8 oil cost that I had to see how much the oil cost cut into savings in fuel. At nationwide average $3.87/gallon, the XLE or Limited would use 39.3 gallons less between 5000 mile oil changes or $152 less in fuel. The oil (0W-8) costing about $15/quart more (assuming 5 qts/change) is about $75 more expensive than very good Mobil1 0W-20 EP (that I use in wife’s minivan). So half of the fuel savings in XLE or Limited is lost to the oil cost! Thank you again for the excellent reviews!!
How about difference in insurance cost for hybrids? Annual registration fees? In Washington State Hybrid owners are hit with an extra $75 per year on tabs, EVs are not penalized despite the extra weight.
The WORST thing right off the bat is the 21 inch rims. I have a 2013 Venza with 20s and the ride is rough! I can feel every bump, and when I do, it's harsh. My old Highlander with 16s and even my 2002 Tacoma with 16s may have had a "floaty" ride, but they were comfortable to ride on any street.
The Crown is a Clown, better off with a Lexus. When your tires have less side wall, you do notice the difference in comfort and handling. Bigger isn't always better. Newer isn't necessarily better as there was a time when the old stuff was made with quality, and craftsmanship, to last. Today it's a consumable market of buys and throwaways as repairs and DIY is the pastime. Everywhere is a landfill or place of hazardous waste/materials. The ocean is the largest dumping ground, it killing whales and more. I have a Camry, did not like the Avalon and why would I like the Crown. Enjoy life, and get a vehicle that suits you well that won't break the bank. If you happen to buy a new vehicle and plan on keeping it for 5 to 6 plus years then get the 10-year VSA - warranty. You can call any dealership in the USA to get a Warranty Quote. Most times your place of purchase dealer/financial manager will quote you a price of more than $2,000 for a 10-year/125,000-mile $0 deductible warranty. Do not pay more than $2k for 10 yr/125K miles, so I recommend calling and shopping around for the best price. If you Do Not Intend to keep the vehicle beyond 5 or 6 years ...Do Not Buy A Warranty as the Manufacturer's Warranty for the most part will cover it. Manufacturer Warranties are most times better than any 3rd Party Warranty. Now if you live a few hundred miles away from the nearest authorized (for example Toyota) then maybe consider a 3rd Party Warranty.
Any wheels over 19" will provide a rough ride. 18" is the sweet spot for smooth riding tires and I don't mean cheap tires. Stick with Michelin Defender 2 or Continental Cross Contact LX Sport SSR.
@@journeyman291 That's not what the experts say, just saying. I like 19 and 18 inch wheels, I do not have a large SUV, so I don't need 30 inch rims. LOL 🤔
The direct injectors being on top of the valve cover do indeed create a hassle when it comes to removing the valve cover. I had to repair a leak from the valve cover on the B48 engine from BMW, and it required a lot of extra work, involving the injector seals and fuel rails, etc.
the average car could easily hit 200k miles before needing new injectors. I keep hearing bmw needing injectors fairly early in life (especially specific 2000s models). I would imagine toyota designed this knowing their quality will keep them from failing etc.
Ya? Just wait till you get the bill for the unnecessary Germanic idea that someone living in the Far East rice bowl called Japan came up with and authorized that brilliant idea. I can hear the cash register now/ or is that a debit machine? More unnecessary complication of parts and systems. Keep it simple stupid! That is why people buy Toyota vehicles. But not for much longer. Besides with up to two years wait for most Toyota products, who cares what they do? I know 5 friends who dumped their order and bought something else. Mazda or Subaru for instance. Honda is doing the same thing it seems. Going down the 'wrong road'. It isn't by accident. This is a 'plan'. it is the future. They have picked up a bad case of the German Measles in all their vehicles.
@@ItalianMetalHED Oh for sure, I do not deny Toyota's engineering prowess. My problem with BMW's B48 that I worked on was unrelated to the fuel injectors, but it was necessary to remove them in order to remove the valve cover, therefore adding more work.
@@vinhngo1894 my experience with my VR6 showed how over engineered these German cars are and electronically inferior as they age but otherwise make amazing motors!!
Thank you for the honest review. As a long time Toyota owner, (2010 Corolla; 2012 FJ Cruiser, both of which we still drive today) we were considering the Crown. However, as you accurately point out, a Lexus ES 350 retails for nearly the same price. At this point we prefer the Lexus..... if it is available.
That is great insight about the 0w-8 oil because nobody else tells you about that. As someone who has a hybrid with the 0w-16 looking to switch to a Grand Highlander or Highlander in a few years, that is good to know. If the oil changes still call for 5k under special conditions, doing the extra oil changes will really add up.
@@riceburner4747 funny thing is I just had my oil changed at a dealer and the line item said 0w-20. Wondering if it was a mistake, I looked at my last invoice from a different Toyota dealer. It too said 0w-20. Either they don’t charge differently (and don’t have a line item for 0w-16) or the dealers aren’t even following the manufacturer’s standards.
Thankfully, as pointed out, the Hybrid Max/Platinum variant uses "standard" 0W-20. BTW, we have a 2021 Highlander hybrid, and it uses 0W-16. Have the new models went to 0W-8?
@@MASTERNC I think I remember AMD saying they get theirs oil out of drums at dealerships where he uses bottles like us. On my Prius manual, it says I can use 0w-20 but have to go back to 0w-16 next change. AMD mostly says use whats recommended or I'd use 20 in the spring/summer & 16 in the fall/winter.
AMD sure appreciate your videos. Especially, the longer ones where you take time to go over what needs to be discussed regardless of the length of the discussion. We all know that every video can not be 15-20 minutes long or would want them limited to a certain amount of time. Some my take an hour, so what. Keep up the good work... your viewers know that you put in lots of extra work and money in making these videos. It it keeps them coming back alone with new viewers. THANKS.
I used to own an Avalon, now I own a ES 350, like it very much. I’m not impressed with this Crown. Thank you very much for your time. I look forward to hearing from you about the 2024 GX
I LIKE the two toned AMD. Over in Europe the CH-R, YARIS, & AYGO all have that two tone combo. I ALSO love the 21" wheels. Saying this, I wouldnt want price of tires, car, & cost of repairs, I'm sure. 👍🇺🇸
Not sure why you have multiple negatives about this car one it’s a Toyota it’s quality and reliability. Update, that everyone feels the same way about this car that you seem to be telling people not to buy. It’s a beautiful car that is attractive to multiple age ranges.
Why do we have to label or categorize the car? Why not just celebrate the uniqueness, and enjoy it? To me, this car sounds like a value proposition. I am seriously considering it. Love your content.
Absolutely beautiful car. When my 01 Avalon dies I would like to get this car. My only dislike is I wish the grill wasn’t closed plastic and was actually functional.
Not every grill / vent has to be open The air that would pass through there is redirected elsewhere for good reason. Perhaps more downforce or better aero
Does the manual say 0W-16 can be used permanently, or a temporary replacement? In favor of the 0W-16, our Highlander hybrid uses precisely the same engine and does call for 0W-16. So, is Toyota pushing the envelope to achieve slightly better fuel economy? In a hot climate 0W-8 would scare me.
@@jamesemanner9671 As with any vehicle, they would prefer you use what they recommend. I have heard Toyota dealers putting 0W-16 in these newer cars that are calling for 0W-8 because is simply can't be sourced in high volumes. In all actuality, it's not a huge difference in viscosity and some prefer to use a heavier weight oil. The climate where you live could also play a factor. I can see how people would be scared away from using what's a different oil than what's listed on the car.
That hybrid max configuration sounds like what Mazda did in their new CX90 with the "torque converter-less wet clutch". I wonder if they collaborated on the design.
That video was suggested to me by RUclips since I'm looking at the new Crown Signia that will be available this summer. I currently own a 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited and the Signia seems really interesting. So when I saw your video I watched it and it was really interesting! You gave a lot of great details on the mechanical side. I really appreciate that. I'll stay close to what you do and really hope you'll make a review on the Signia too.
I like your car videos and explanations and also point out vehicle parts in general. The one I like is you show underneath the vehicle you are showcasing. I do not see too many car RUclipsrs talking about the underbelly of a car and pointing their camera at it. It is important to see what is under a car that we all are investing a lot of money on. I like to see all of the car before I buy especially underneath it. I want to see the build quality and parts also are the parts cheap looking or sub par.
That's a very handsome vehicle. Toyota quality and reliability, basically, another bulletproof Toyota... and at the current overinflated prices, out of my budget.
Thanks AMD. Nice review. You hit the nail on the head. For the money, I’d buy the ES with the v6 while it’s still available. When buying my 2019 Avalon Limited it was about $5,000 less then the ES. Love the Avalon but should have gone with the ES for better seats.
Toyota should hire this guy ... very good critique. Not a huge fan of those giant holes underneath. That's just asking for trouble in the long term with water and dirt getting up in there. Overall, a very nice looking car and a nice ride.
Toyota has gotten where they are by risky experiments. I’ve been in this car and I can tell you it feels premium. It was a plain white car but it felt almost like a lexus but a few upholstery items like the seat material let it down. There’s a great chance it will sell if they introduce the station wagon version coz it will pretty much look like an SUV
My 1973 Toyota Corona 4spd wagon was great! A truck driver friend even showed me how to "power" shift it - it was like "bump" firing a semi-auto AR ...
My wife and I just got a red crown XLE. Love it! I think the target audience would be professional young adults who don’t have kids yet but will have them in the near future.
AMD, Four new Crowns were introduced to the world and we got the weird one! I would happily take my chances with the 0W-8 oil if it was going into the Crown Estate with the regular Hybrid system🤩 As the owner of an 18 year old Toyota exhaust system, I am a little concerned with the apparent downgrades. 🤨 We will have to check back in 2041 to see how the Crown's exhaust pipes and hangers are holding up. 🤔 Finally, for a car that weighs hundreds of pounds more than the old Ford Crown Victoria, I sure wish this Crown offered as much leg and head room.
This Crown has so many negatives right out of the gate; overweight, oversized tires, requires 0w8 oil, has the look of a hatchback but the capacity of just a trunk, brutally expensive for the second owner to maintain after 100k. I don’t want to pay such a premium price for everything I hate about a car. I really would buy the new Land Cruiser if it had the Tacoma’s v6. That’s the formula I like; pay a lot more upfront but be able to afford it over the years because it doesn’t break.
"The engine cover. [...] Some people actually have a habit of taking it out and throwing it out. Please don't do that." Are you listening @scottykilmer ? 😂😂😂
I wouldn't buy this car and don't need another turbo. It looks a bit like they outsourced the design. I'm happy with how my A25 & P710 perform. These excellent reviews do pose the question about the car design process and decision making. Thank you all at TCCN Public Service Broadcasting.
At an MSRP of $52,350 for the Crown Platinum, why not just get a Lexus ES350 Ultra Luxury Edition for $52,080? Since the top-of-the-line Lexus costs essentially the same (actually a bit less), I don't understand why anyone would ever consider buying the Crown Platinum. The Lexus U.L.E. has a lot standard that you can't even get as an option for the Crown (e.g., power trunk, HUD, moonroof). And when you compare the base-level Crown XLE with the Avalon XLE that it is supposedly replacing, the Avalon wins hands-down, on many levels, from the engine to the many small idiosyncrasies of the Crown. They say the Avalon was a car for "old people." I'm 66, so I guess I qualify. At any rate, I'm glad I bought my Avalon last year before it was discontinued.
Dear AMD, sir: we have a 2013 Prius with 325,000 miles on it and has always gotten better than the 48 mpg advertised. We recently purchased a 2013 Lexus ES 300 H with 88,000 miles on it but it is only getting around 31 miles per gallon as opposed to the 40 that it is supposed to get. What could be wrong sir? Help help help!!! Respectfully, Alan
I just want this in a normal sized sedan trim model😑 I did see one of these on the road recently and my eyes immediately went "👀". It is a very nice, interesting looking car. My only gripe is that MASSIVE front "grill"
The Toyota Corolla. That car had a distinct difference from the front and the back as well. Always wondered why. Because the Corolla hatch matches from front to rear.
Being an owner of a late model Avalon, my question is why? The Avalon is a well built car and very comfortable and dependable. The Avalon name plate is well known in the US. IMO Toyota should have redesigned the Avalon and kept the V6.
Love watching your videos very honest and informative.. I just purchased a 2025 Toyota Crown Platinum after owning 2 previous Avalon Touring Editions, really enjoyed the Avalons. I was looking for something that might handle the Chicago Winters just a little bit better then the Avalon and I'm not an SUV kind of a person. I opted for the turbo 2.4 engine because I wanted a little get up and go and it does exactly that.. Looked under the hood and there is a sticker that does call for 0w20 oil, the online owners manual does state 0w8 for the 2.4 engine and 2.5 engine calls for 0w16 oil. It also states that you could use 0w16 in the 2.4 engine but the next oil change says to go back to the 0w8 oil, it's almost like Toyota changed it's mind for some reason. You hit the nail on the head it's really confusing who Toyota marketed this car exactly for they're all over the place with some of the decisions that they made here. To me it's more like a sedan and definitely not a cross between a sedan and SUV which to me would be more like a Subaru Outback or Forester in my Opinion. I also considered the Lexus es350 luxury edition, same price as the Crown but more upscale and that great 3.5 v6 but again it came down to Winter driving for me. I like the car so far and hope I made the right decision but time will tell the most important thing in the end is reliability.
I guess the lines should stop at the bulges side for more bolder looks. It’s silly to have line on a bulge. Can you see lines in VW Bettle fenders? Over all this car has a great design.
I also hope that this hybrid max powertrain doesn't ruin the land cruiser 250. Meant to say that earlier. As for this Crown I would rather have an Avalon no doubt.
I test drove a Crown, the window price was $58,000, I did not care for the compact small size and only come with 4 wheel drive made in Japan. So I bought a full size Lexus 300H ultra for $52,000 made in America. It give a lot better gas mileage and a lot better ride. The Crown will not last long. Toyota did it wrong bringing it to us, they should have brought us the Century instead.
You are underestimating "grandpas." The fact that this vehicle doesn't fit a conventional category is not a flaw. People were saying this about "crossover" vehicles (they could not come up with a better name...); now they are everywhere.
My brother in law was a cab driver in Hong Kong and the taxi he owned was a Toyota Crown 5 speed manual with the shifter mounted on the steering column.
The crease is probably to aid stability. The panels are very flimsy. I had a dent in the door within a week. All I did was lean on it (hands were full) to make sure the door was shut. The whole panel pushed in and a small part by the handle did not push back out. Since then, a branch landed on the hood - two dents. And my lawnmower deck was leaning against the garage and lost it's balance. Two more dents on the passenger door. That was interesting because a day or two later a lady wasn't paying attention. I parked next to her and she opened her door and it slammed into the passenger side. I didn't even raise an eyebrow. I may have gotten upset if I hadn't already bashed that door.
They took a look from Peugeot 408/Citroen C5X book (not sure if you get them in the US), those also are not really decided what they are, SUV or liftback/sedans and also can be divisive in appearance. They are marketed more towards SUV byuers though.
The problem is like you said 33:03 it’s trying to be several different cars at once (Camry, Avalon, RAV4, Hatchback, Lexus, etc.) and at the price point of nearly $60,000 I would rather get a fully loaded Tacoma or a Tundra.
Am I the only one concerned for the Toyota brand? All the clues that it's on its way downhill are here in this video. Snap up the non-turbo, non-hybrid, proven powertrains while you can. Akio Toyoda => Koji Sato + government mandates = the end of reliable, cost effective cars.
They should always offer an ICE (all gas) version of theit vehicles. Unfortunately theyre not. The Sienna, Venza & now this Crown are only hybrid. Not everyone wants a Hybrid that once Hybrid components start to break down is going to cost an arm & a leg to replace/fix
I would say there is a 5% chance of that happening. The Camry is Toyota's workhorse in meeting CAFE standards. It would not surprise me if the next Camry is 100% Hybrid with a full focus on efficiency. We should find out at the LA Auto Show.
The sedan market is shrinking, not sure the market really needs it. Not making it a hatch back didn’t help. I don’t think these are going to fly off the shelf.
The sleeker, lower and sportier sedans get, the fewer they sell. I wonder when someone employed by one of the major automakers will finally make the connection. 🤔
This powertrain delivery system is what Mercedes use in some of their cars. I was unsure about the system dynamics, but, it is always in the more gas guzzling, not quite so money concerned corner of their product segments. And they are very fast cars with incredibly good, seamless power delivery. Now, I don't know If the coupling is the same, but the premise, from memory, is the same. Old Toyota copying Mercedes...
This is NOT a real Crown. I still remember the Crown diesel back in the 70s & 80s. They are sooooo reliable. All you need are air filter/oil filter/fuel filter/coolant replacement. Toyota slogan at that time: "There is a Toyota where there is a road".
With their having lowered the roof/headroom in 2023 Prius and Prius Prime, they should have made this a hatchback rather than sedan to again have an efficient hatchback/liftback with decent headroom and cargo space. With 2023+ Prius no longer being as suitable for semi-SUV or cargo-hauling as 2004-2022 Prius, folks who like the versatility of Prius as a super-efficient, super-stealthy car-camping SUV substitute, they need an alternative for us. FYI, I managed to carry a new 400 pound US General 56 inch roller cabinet (with wheels removed) home from Harbor Freight in a 2005 Prius with the hatch closed. Try doing that in any sedan. For many, the answer is a boxy RAV4 hybrid or RAV4 Prime, but I'd prefer not to be forced to give up going on road trips getting 57mpg at 65mph while still keeping both front seats totally stock and having a 75x25 inch bed behind the passenger seat, with 50 liter fridge/freezer under my pillow. Personally, I'd probably go all the way to getting a Sienna and accepting 36mpg in exchange for a lot of space. But more likely, I'll just try to make my 2017 Prius Prime last forever. It just passed 111,111 miles this week and it's never had to go back to the dealer yet. 0W20 oil is easy to find for $4 or $5/qt. $20/qt oil is crazy, just another reason to go EV sooner rather than later. My Prime's worst failure so far is the Auto/Manual high beam dimmer getting stuck in Auto mode. That actually was a worse failure than you'd think. When driving for a few hours at night on a very challenging road to Elko, Nevada, I often had to manually hold the high beam on because Auto mode is too conservative about dimming the high beams when in doubt. It started some very annoying but not severe hand pain which I still get more often than I'd like, over 2 years later. My fault for not fixing it before that trip, Toyota's fault for using a switch which failed despite very little use and zero abuse. I guess it was an unlucky coin flip that it failed into the only mode which can cause a medical injury.
The Rav4 isn't that boxy (wish it were more boxy) as it suffers from the design flaw that a lot of newer crossovers/SUVs (thought not as bad as some) do where they do a curve down in the cargo area thus limiting somewhat your use of the space. Depending on where you like your seat positioned you do need to be careful about getting into the driver's seat so as not to bump your head (which I've also heard is a problem with the corolla cross but perhaps worse). However you can fit a 30" tall and 17.75" wide set of drawers (like the ikea or container store metal ones) in the cargo area pushed in right up to the point where the roof height becomes shorter which fits in nicely next to a 25" wide bed setup. The drawers will still fit with the driver side of the rear seat back still folded up.
Thank you for the review of Toyota Crown in your usual excellent fashion. Since this type of all-wheel-drive does not have a driveshaft extending to the rear, does the rule of replacing all four tires when one tire is damaged apply?
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It looks like a Duracell battery in this color
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Lol I can see that too 😂
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…now I can’t unsee that, thanks😂
In silver it would be an Energizer battery 😂
It looks awesome. has a big presence on the road. The Crown is back! Toyota quality and reliability🤩 Made in Japan!!!! Crown Platinum is the way to go. great features.
Saw this car in recent local news in LA . being stolen off a dealer lot and crashing through some metal gates without shuddering or losing a side mirror. The thief drove through two gates and went sailing down Santa Monica Blvd. First time I was impressed by this car
What a dummy for stealing this pile of 'technology' Pick something that will have some future value to it.
This machine will be passed over like a cold hamburger.
I think it lost the side right mirror when it crashed through the gate when it went into the mainroad in front of the camera. But then again it’s made in Japan so I’m not too impressed. Still impressed though.
Perhaps we all know on the inside that Toyota is going down the planned obsolescence route nowadays so much that we are impressed?
I saw that video, it seems to me prepared in advance as an advertisement, there was a camera man on the side!
Best channel ever.
I agree on that one
Seconded and so moved...
Today I learned that the looks are objective and aluminum isn't metal. But seriously, as usual with your reviews I learned a lot more about a car that I already thought I knew a lot about. Thanks for the great content.
Okay! aluminum is a non-ferrous metal but still a metal, just as iron, steel, copper, nickel, silver, gold, and brass are metals. Get yourself a Lexus ES. The Crown is a Clown.
Wish you were near York Pennsylvania. You are one of the few honest car technicians. That's why I perform my own maintenance and repairs. It seems like everyone tries to rip you off.
i disagree with the critics, i love lifted sedans, plus this car has AWD that the Lexus ES doesn't
Just got my Crown Plat 2 weeks ago & absolutely love it. I generally try to feather it for economy but when I've needed the power it's there instantly!
I LOVE watching your videos filmed in your garage, because you always have a bunch of cool looking SUV's, sedans, and trucks that look new.
Hi AMD, thank you for the wide-open honest review of the Crown and differences between the models drivetrain. I was so struck by the 0W-8 oil cost that I had to see how much the oil cost cut into savings in fuel. At nationwide average $3.87/gallon, the XLE or Limited would use 39.3 gallons less between 5000 mile oil changes or $152 less in fuel. The oil (0W-8) costing about $15/quart more (assuming 5 qts/change) is about $75 more expensive than very good Mobil1 0W-20 EP (that I use in wife’s minivan). So half of the fuel savings in XLE or Limited is lost to the oil cost!
Thank you again for the excellent reviews!!
Buy a Lexus. The Crown is a Clown.
How about difference in insurance cost for hybrids? Annual registration fees? In Washington State Hybrid owners are hit with an extra $75 per year on tabs, EVs are not penalized despite the extra weight.
The WORST thing right off the bat is the 21 inch rims. I have a 2013 Venza with 20s and the ride is rough! I can feel every bump, and when I do, it's harsh. My old Highlander with 16s and even my 2002 Tacoma with 16s may have had a "floaty" ride, but they were comfortable to ride on any street.
The Crown is a Clown, better off with a Lexus. When your tires have less side wall, you do notice the difference in comfort and handling. Bigger isn't always better. Newer isn't necessarily better as there was a time when the old stuff was made with quality, and craftsmanship, to last. Today it's a consumable market of buys and throwaways as repairs and DIY is the pastime. Everywhere is a landfill or place of hazardous waste/materials. The ocean is the largest dumping ground, it killing whales and more. I have a Camry, did not like the Avalon and why would I like the Crown. Enjoy life, and get a vehicle that suits you well that won't break the bank. If you happen to buy a new vehicle and plan on keeping it for 5 to 6 plus years then get the 10-year VSA - warranty. You can call any dealership in the USA to get a Warranty Quote. Most times your place of purchase dealer/financial manager will quote you a price of more than $2,000 for a 10-year/125,000-mile $0 deductible warranty. Do not pay more than $2k for 10 yr/125K miles, so I recommend calling and shopping around for the best price. If you Do Not Intend to keep the vehicle beyond 5 or 6 years ...Do Not Buy A Warranty as the Manufacturer's Warranty for the most part will cover it. Manufacturer Warranties are most times better than any 3rd Party Warranty. Now if you live a few hundred miles away from the nearest authorized (for example Toyota) then maybe consider a 3rd Party Warranty.
@@richscott2483 You have been saying this on every crown video. I'm starting to think your hating or envious of the car.
Any wheels over 19" will provide a rough ride. 18" is the sweet spot for smooth riding tires and I don't mean cheap tires. Stick with Michelin Defender 2 or Continental Cross Contact LX Sport SSR.
@@randy74989 the size of the rim is irreverent. The sidewall aspect ratio determines the ride feel, handling features
@@journeyman291 That's not what the experts say, just saying. I like 19 and 18 inch wheels, I do not have a large SUV, so I don't need 30 inch rims. LOL 🤔
The direct injectors being on top of the valve cover do indeed create a hassle when it comes to removing the valve cover. I had to repair a leak from the valve cover on the B48 engine from BMW, and it required a lot of extra work, involving the injector seals and fuel rails, etc.
the average car could easily hit 200k miles before needing new injectors. I keep hearing bmw needing injectors fairly early in life (especially specific 2000s models). I would imagine toyota designed this knowing their quality will keep them from failing etc.
Ya?
Just wait till you get the bill for the unnecessary Germanic idea that someone living in the Far East rice bowl called Japan came up with and authorized that brilliant idea. I can hear the cash register now/ or is that a debit machine?
More unnecessary complication of parts and systems. Keep it simple stupid!
That is why people buy Toyota vehicles. But not for much longer. Besides with up to two years wait for most Toyota products, who cares what they do? I know 5 friends who dumped their order and bought something else. Mazda or Subaru for instance. Honda is doing the same thing it seems. Going down the 'wrong road'.
It isn't by accident. This is a 'plan'. it is the future.
They have picked up a bad case of the German Measles in all their vehicles.
@@ItalianMetalHED Oh for sure, I do not deny Toyota's engineering prowess. My problem with BMW's B48 that I worked on was unrelated to the fuel injectors, but it was necessary to remove them in order to remove the valve cover, therefore adding more work.
@@vinhngo1894 my experience with my VR6 showed how over engineered these German cars are and electronically inferior as they age but otherwise make amazing motors!!
@@vinhngo1894 I do like older beemers though!
Thank you for the honest review. As a long time Toyota owner, (2010 Corolla; 2012 FJ Cruiser, both of which we still drive today) we were considering the Crown. However, as you accurately point out, a Lexus ES 350 retails for nearly the same price. At this point we prefer the Lexus..... if it is available.
Lexus is better. The Crown is a Clown.
😮 Guess it’s like we heard before never buy the first year of a model change. The price put me off on that top model. Thanks for sharing the truth.😊😊
That is great insight about the 0w-8 oil because nobody else tells you about that. As someone who has a hybrid with the 0w-16 looking to switch to a Grand Highlander or Highlander in a few years, that is good to know. If the oil changes still call for 5k under special conditions, doing the extra oil changes will really add up.
I wonder if AMD is running 0w-16 in his Camry? 🤔 And would he run 0w-16 in a Crown?
@@riceburner4747 funny thing is I just had my oil changed at a dealer and the line item said 0w-20. Wondering if it was a mistake, I looked at my last invoice from a different Toyota dealer. It too said 0w-20. Either they don’t charge differently (and don’t have a line item for 0w-16) or the dealers aren’t even following the manufacturer’s standards.
Thankfully, as pointed out, the Hybrid Max/Platinum variant uses "standard" 0W-20. BTW, we have a 2021 Highlander hybrid, and it uses 0W-16. Have the new models went to 0W-8?
@@MASTERNC I think I remember AMD saying they get theirs oil out of drums at dealerships where he uses bottles like us. On my Prius manual, it says I can use 0w-20 but have to go back to 0w-16 next change. AMD mostly says use whats recommended or I'd use 20 in the spring/summer & 16 in the fall/winter.
They can say they don’t have the 0-16 as the A25 takes 0-20 as an emergency. Watch the Camry CCN and change out the 0-20 ASAP.
AMD sure appreciate your videos. Especially, the longer ones where you take time to go over what needs to be discussed regardless of the length of the discussion. We all know that every video can not be 15-20 minutes long or would want them limited to a certain amount of time. Some my take an hour, so what.
Keep up the good work... your viewers know that you put in lots of extra work and money in making these videos. It it keeps them coming back alone with new viewers. THANKS.
I used to own an Avalon, now I own a ES 350, like it very much. I’m not impressed with this Crown. Thank you very much for your time. I look forward to hearing from you about the 2024 GX
Smart move and decision. I am not fond of the Avalon but the Crown is a Clown. Stick with your Lexus ES.
@@richscott2483 here you go again, smh! Stop commenting and hating.
I LIKE the two toned AMD. Over in Europe the CH-R, YARIS, & AYGO all have that two tone combo. I ALSO love the 21" wheels. Saying this, I wouldnt want price of tires, car, & cost of repairs, I'm sure. 👍🇺🇸
Agreed 👍 the lady has Toyota Yaris 2018, and I bought RAV 4 2022, both hybrids, great cars, will buy C-HR 2024 for my lady absolutely beautiful car!
Getting in and out was pretty difficult. I am 5'8" but managed to hit my head getting out. 😂
Going from 25 to 30 MPG by adding a turbo and a hybrid? Seems like a lot of complication.
And a way less reliability
Oh my god. What have we here? Somebody who understands. You gents, get to sit at the front of the class. This mechanic doesn't have a clue.
Not sure why you have multiple negatives about this car one it’s a Toyota it’s quality and reliability. Update, that everyone feels the same way about this car that you seem to be telling people not to buy. It’s a beautiful car that is attractive to multiple age ranges.
Why do we have to label or categorize the car? Why not just celebrate the uniqueness, and enjoy it? To me, this car sounds like a value proposition. I am seriously considering it. Love your content.
Absolutely beautiful car. When my 01 Avalon dies I would like to get this car. My only dislike is I wish the grill wasn’t closed plastic and was actually functional.
Not every grill / vent has to be open
The air that would pass through there is redirected elsewhere for good reason. Perhaps more downforce or better aero
States in the manual that 0W-16 can be used as a replacement. I believe the Corolla is also calling for 0W-8
Does the manual say 0W-16 can be used permanently, or a temporary replacement? In favor of the 0W-16, our Highlander hybrid uses precisely the same engine and does call for 0W-16. So, is Toyota pushing the envelope to achieve slightly better fuel economy? In a hot climate 0W-8 would scare me.
@@jamesemanner9671 As with any vehicle, they would prefer you use what they recommend. I have heard Toyota dealers putting 0W-16 in these newer cars that are calling for 0W-8 because is simply can't be sourced in high volumes. In all actuality, it's not a huge difference in viscosity and some prefer to use a heavier weight oil. The climate where you live could also play a factor. I can see how people would be scared away from using what's a different oil than what's listed on the car.
That hybrid max configuration sounds like what Mazda did in their new CX90 with the "torque converter-less wet clutch". I wonder if they collaborated on the design.
and here is a memo. Its a POS....lol. Crappy drivability and complexity nightmare.
As a replacement for the outgoing Avalon I really like this car and I do like the fast back look.
Great content as usual. AMD I never miss any . Has Toyota employed more German engineers? Just saying.
That video was suggested to me by RUclips since I'm looking at the new Crown Signia that will be available this summer. I currently own a 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited and the Signia seems really interesting. So when I saw your video I watched it and it was really interesting! You gave a lot of great details on the mechanical side. I really appreciate that. I'll stay close to what you do and really hope you'll make a review on the Signia too.
20:29 I like the pink bolts.
I like your car videos and explanations and also point out vehicle parts in general. The one I like is you show underneath the vehicle you are showcasing. I do not see too many car RUclipsrs talking about the underbelly of a car and pointing their camera at it. It is important to see what is under a car that we all are investing a lot of money on. I like to see all of the car before I buy especially underneath it. I want to see the build quality and parts also are the parts cheap looking or sub par.
This video was a real eye opener! This makes me feel that there is a lot of hype around Toyota design, quality, and reliability. Great job.
Love my Avalon Limited. Crown tires and rims look like a nightmare to maintain.
Pot holes will eat them alive.
not to mention a loud, rough ride.
Avalon may not be a great sedan but surely much better than the Crown is a Clown.
You dont now what it is! Thats what i was looking for ❤
Is this suppose to be an Avalon replacement.? I’m bummed that they discontinued the Avalon.
That's a very handsome vehicle. Toyota quality and reliability, basically, another bulletproof Toyota... and at the current overinflated prices, out of my budget.
Thanks AMD. Nice review.
You hit the nail on the head. For the money, I’d buy the ES with the v6 while it’s still available.
When buying my 2019 Avalon Limited it was about $5,000 less then the ES. Love the Avalon but should have gone with the ES for better seats.
I loved the boxy look of the 1990s Crown and 900 series Volvos. Had hoped that my dad would one day earn enough for us to have one.
I think I will stick with the older hybrid system thank you.
@@rightlanehog3151 Not really any hybrid can do that.
I like my 2019 Avalon Hybrid Limited with the technology package much better…. And I paid $36,700 out the door brand new.
Toyota should hire this guy ... very good critique.
Not a huge fan of those giant holes underneath. That's just asking for trouble in the long term with water and dirt getting up in there.
Overall, a very nice looking car and a nice ride.
We pickup an xle discounted to the same price as a loaded camry xle
I suspect it will be a great car.
Best looking Toyota ever build
You are kidding. This is the ugliest Toyota ever designed.
Crown got my attention on the road, looks great and stylish
This is such a good upgraded lighting and camera setup, better looking than toyota website
I think you mean looks are subjective, not objective. Otherwise, excellent overview of the new Crown!
Toyota has gotten where they are by risky experiments. I’ve been in this car and I can tell you it feels premium. It was a plain white car but it felt almost like a lexus but a few upholstery items like the seat material let it down. There’s a great chance it will sell if they introduce the station wagon version coz it will pretty much look like an SUV
The Outback needs some competition, I want to see that Crown Estate reach our market.
My 1973 Toyota Corona 4spd wagon was great! A truck driver friend even showed me how to "power" shift it - it was like "bump" firing a semi-auto AR ...
I think the camry will out sell almost every car still....
My wife and I just got a red crown XLE. Love it!
I think the target audience would be professional young adults who don’t have kids yet but will have them in the near future.
AMD, Four new Crowns were introduced to the world and we got the weird one! I would happily take my chances with the 0W-8 oil if it was going into the Crown Estate with the regular Hybrid
system🤩 As the owner of an 18 year old Toyota exhaust system, I am a little concerned with the apparent downgrades. 🤨 We will have to check back in 2041 to see how the Crown's exhaust pipes and hangers are holding up. 🤔 Finally, for a car that weighs hundreds of pounds more than the old Ford Crown Victoria, I sure wish this Crown offered as much leg and head room.
Buy a Lexus. The Crown is a Clown.
This Crown has so many negatives right out of the gate; overweight, oversized tires, requires 0w8 oil, has the look of a hatchback but the capacity of just a trunk, brutally expensive for the second owner to maintain after 100k. I don’t want to pay such a premium price for everything I hate about a car. I really would buy the new Land Cruiser if it had the Tacoma’s v6. That’s the formula I like; pay a lot more upfront but be able to afford it over the years because it doesn’t break.
Not interested in EVs or Hybrids but i like the Styling of this vehicle.
I didn't think they really made these as there are none in any of the Toyota lots in my state. Where's Waldo, aka, where's the crown?
"The engine cover. [...] Some people actually have a habit of taking it out and throwing it out. Please don't do that."
Are you listening @scottykilmer ? 😂😂😂
I wouldn't buy this car and don't need another turbo. It looks a bit like they outsourced the design. I'm happy with how my A25 & P710 perform.
These excellent reviews do pose the question about the car design process and decision making. Thank you all at TCCN Public Service Broadcasting.
Yep! agree. The Crown is a Clown.
At an MSRP of $52,350 for the Crown Platinum, why not just get a Lexus ES350 Ultra Luxury Edition for $52,080? Since the top-of-the-line Lexus costs essentially the same (actually a bit less), I don't understand why anyone would ever consider buying the Crown Platinum. The Lexus U.L.E. has a lot standard that you can't even get as an option for the Crown (e.g., power trunk, HUD, moonroof). And when you compare the base-level Crown XLE with the Avalon XLE that it is supposedly replacing, the Avalon wins hands-down, on many levels, from the engine to the many small idiosyncrasies of the Crown. They say the Avalon was a car for "old people." I'm 66, so I guess I qualify. At any rate, I'm glad I bought my Avalon last year before it was discontinued.
No AWD and Hybrid Max offered on the ES hybrid.
Dear AMD, sir: we have a 2013 Prius with 325,000 miles on it and has always gotten better than the 48 mpg advertised. We recently purchased a 2013 Lexus ES 300 H with 88,000 miles on it but it is only getting around 31 miles per gallon as opposed to the 40 that it is supposed to get. What could be wrong sir? Help help help!!!
Respectfully, Alan
I just want this in a normal sized sedan trim model😑
I did see one of these on the road recently and my eyes immediately went "👀". It is a very nice, interesting looking car. My only gripe is that MASSIVE front "grill"
The Toyota Corolla. That car had a distinct difference from the front and the back as well. Always wondered why. Because the Corolla hatch matches from front to rear.
Will you be reviewing the Crown Signia? It's on my spreadsheet of potential car purchases! Thanks so much!
Answer....yes, yes you should. My buddy just got one....excellent.
In all black this is a total boss car
One of my favorite
Being an owner of a late model Avalon, my question is why? The Avalon is a well built car and very comfortable and dependable. The Avalon name plate is well known in the US. IMO Toyota should have redesigned the Avalon and kept the V6.
Just buy the LTD Crown, 2.5l non Turbo.. skip the changes.
Love watching your videos very honest and informative.. I just purchased a 2025 Toyota Crown Platinum after owning 2 previous Avalon Touring Editions, really enjoyed the Avalons. I was looking for something that might handle the Chicago Winters just a little bit better then the Avalon and I'm not an SUV kind of a person. I opted for the turbo 2.4 engine because I wanted a little get up and go and it does exactly that.. Looked under the hood and there is a sticker that does call for 0w20 oil, the online owners manual does state 0w8 for the 2.4 engine and 2.5 engine calls for 0w16 oil. It also states that you could use 0w16 in the 2.4 engine but the next oil change says to go back to the 0w8 oil, it's almost like Toyota changed it's mind for some reason. You hit the nail on the head it's really confusing who Toyota marketed this car exactly for they're all over the place with some of the decisions that they made here. To me it's more like a sedan and definitely not a cross between a sedan and SUV which to me would be more like a Subaru Outback or Forester in my Opinion. I also considered the Lexus es350 luxury edition, same price as the Crown but more upscale and that great 3.5 v6 but again it came down to Winter driving for me. I like the car so far and hope I made the right decision but time will tell the most important thing in the end is reliability.
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I guess the lines should stop at the bulges side for more bolder looks. It’s silly to have line on a bulge. Can you see lines in VW Bettle fenders? Over all this car has a great design.
I also hope that this hybrid max powertrain doesn't ruin the land cruiser 250. Meant to say that earlier. As for this Crown I would rather have an Avalon no doubt.
I totally agree. Toyota is resking the reliability factor for a tiny insignificant amount of fuel efficiency.
Very thorough review! I appreciate this video :-)
New cars are way too complicated. Give me something like a 1960 Ford Falcon.
That “grille” is going to be a pain to clean of bugs.
Very good review. You bring up many issues that are probably not going to be covered by the sales rep when you are on the lot.
Outstanding overview!!
I test drove a Crown, the window price was $58,000, I did not care for the compact small size and only come with 4 wheel drive made in Japan. So I bought a full size Lexus 300H ultra for $52,000 made in America. It give a lot better gas mileage and a lot better ride.
The Crown will not last long. Toyota did it wrong bringing it to us, they should have brought us the Century instead.
You are underestimating "grandpas." The fact that this vehicle doesn't fit a conventional category is not a flaw. People were saying this about "crossover" vehicles (they could not come up with a better name...); now they are everywhere.
My brother in law was a cab driver in Hong Kong and the taxi he owned was a Toyota Crown 5 speed manual with the shifter mounted on the steering column.
I’m waiting for the plug in version of the Crown or the Lexus equivalent.
Perfect replacement for the Avalon. I intend to buy the Crown Signet SUV version when it arrives later this year.
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The crease is probably to aid stability. The panels are very flimsy. I had a dent in the door within a week. All I did was lean on it (hands were full) to make sure the door was shut. The whole panel pushed in and a small part by the handle did not push back out. Since then, a branch landed on the hood - two dents. And my lawnmower deck was leaning against the garage and lost it's balance. Two more dents on the passenger door. That was interesting because a day or two later a lady wasn't paying attention. I parked next to her and she opened her door and it slammed into the passenger side. I didn't even raise an eyebrow. I may have gotten upset if I hadn't already bashed that door.
They took a look from Peugeot 408/Citroen C5X book (not sure if you get them in the US), those also are not really decided what they are, SUV or liftback/sedans and also can be divisive in appearance. They are marketed more towards SUV byuers though.
Our Peugeot and Citroen cars are sold with names like Dodge , Jeep, Fiat, Chrysler or Ram.
As a loyal avalon owner, I'm really liking this crown..... It's not a simple car though and that worries me ...
It will be great if you can review the grand highlander
But how does it drive?
The problem is like you said 33:03 it’s trying to be several different cars at once (Camry, Avalon, RAV4, Hatchback, Lexus, etc.) and at the price point of nearly $60,000 I would rather get a fully loaded Tacoma or a Tundra.
Two tone looks awful
Am I the only one concerned for the Toyota brand? All the clues that it's on its way downhill are here in this video. Snap up the non-turbo, non-hybrid, proven powertrains while you can. Akio Toyoda => Koji Sato + government mandates = the end of reliable, cost effective cars.
They should always offer an ICE (all gas) version of theit vehicles. Unfortunately theyre not. The Sienna, Venza & now this Crown are only hybrid. Not everyone wants a Hybrid that once Hybrid components start to break down is going to cost an arm & a leg to replace/fix
Toyota of now sure isn't Toyota of the 90s and 2000s. Buncha boring cars now that offer no excitement
I'm wondering if this is the next available engine for the Camry TRD? 🤔
I would say there is a 5% chance of that happening. The Camry is Toyota's workhorse in meeting CAFE standards. It would not surprise me if the next Camry is 100% Hybrid with a full focus on efficiency. We should find out at the LA Auto Show.
@@rightlanehog3151 I can't wait to see 😀
The sedan market is shrinking, not sure the market really needs it. Not making it a hatch back didn’t help. I don’t think these are going to fly off the shelf.
The sleeker, lower and sportier sedans get, the fewer they sell. I wonder when someone employed by one of the major automakers will finally make the connection. 🤔
This powertrain delivery system is what Mercedes use in some of their cars.
I was unsure about the system dynamics, but, it is always in the more gas guzzling, not quite so money concerned corner of their product segments.
And they are very fast cars with incredibly good, seamless power delivery.
Now, I don't know If the coupling is the same, but the premise, from memory, is the same.
Old Toyota copying Mercedes...
They don't invent anything they make it better.
This is NOT a real Crown. I still remember the Crown diesel back in the 70s & 80s. They are sooooo reliable. All you need are air filter/oil filter/fuel filter/coolant replacement. Toyota slogan at that time: "There is a Toyota where there is a road".
With their having lowered the roof/headroom in 2023 Prius and Prius Prime, they should have made this a hatchback rather than sedan to again have an efficient hatchback/liftback with decent headroom and cargo space. With 2023+ Prius no longer being as suitable for semi-SUV or cargo-hauling as 2004-2022 Prius, folks who like the versatility of Prius as a super-efficient, super-stealthy car-camping SUV substitute, they need an alternative for us.
FYI, I managed to carry a new 400 pound US General 56 inch roller cabinet (with wheels removed) home from Harbor Freight in a 2005 Prius with the hatch closed. Try doing that in any sedan.
For many, the answer is a boxy RAV4 hybrid or RAV4 Prime, but I'd prefer not to be forced to give up going on road trips getting 57mpg at 65mph while still keeping both front seats totally stock and having a 75x25 inch bed behind the passenger seat, with 50 liter fridge/freezer under my pillow. Personally, I'd probably go all the way to getting a Sienna and accepting 36mpg in exchange for a lot of space. But more likely, I'll just try to make my 2017 Prius Prime last forever. It just passed 111,111 miles this week and it's never had to go back to the dealer yet. 0W20 oil is easy to find for $4 or $5/qt. $20/qt oil is crazy, just another reason to go EV sooner rather than later.
My Prime's worst failure so far is the Auto/Manual high beam dimmer getting stuck in Auto mode. That actually was a worse failure than you'd think. When driving for a few hours at night on a very challenging road to Elko, Nevada, I often had to manually hold the high beam on because Auto mode is too conservative about dimming the high beams when in doubt. It started some very annoying but not severe hand pain which I still get more often than I'd like, over 2 years later. My fault for not fixing it before that trip, Toyota's fault for using a switch which failed despite very little use and zero abuse. I guess it was an unlucky coin flip that it failed into the only mode which can cause a medical injury.
The Rav4 isn't that boxy (wish it were more boxy) as it suffers from the design flaw that a lot of newer crossovers/SUVs (thought not as bad as some) do where they do a curve down in the cargo area thus limiting somewhat your use of the space. Depending on where you like your seat positioned you do need to be careful about getting into the driver's seat so as not to bump your head (which I've also heard is a problem with the corolla cross but perhaps worse). However you can fit a 30" tall and 17.75" wide set of drawers (like the ikea or container store metal ones) in the cargo area pushed in right up to the point where the roof height becomes shorter which fits in nicely next to a 25" wide bed setup. The drawers will still fit with the driver side of the rear seat back still folded up.
Too many moving parts. I loved the front wheel drive Avalon TRD. It was the best large car daily driver with alot less moving parts.
If they sold the estate wagon version in the US, I would very likely make it my next vehicle.
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I love the styling.
Please review the Crown Signia. Thank you very much.
Thank you for the review of Toyota Crown in your usual excellent fashion. Since this type of all-wheel-drive does not have a driveshaft extending to the rear, does the rule of replacing all four tires when one tire is damaged apply?
QUESTION - Does it have plug-in feature???
Something in the video alluded to it being so, but it wasn't clear.