This movie is the definition of the word "masterpiece," and this scene is undoubtedly the best. The creepy camera pan to Toothless' eye, the way he accepts his fate, and the way he stands over Hiccup before roaring and running off, it's all just so well done and satisfying.
toothless's character was so good in this first movie cuz you can tell from how he was just watching hiccup and trying to plead to him like you can tell he really is an extremely intelligent creature
I still think How to Train Your Dragon 1 is still the best movie from the trilogy, 2 and 3 don’t even matched their success compared to the first one honestly.
I loved all three for different reasons. The interactions of one were perfect, 2 was the biggest spectacle of the bunch, and 3 had the most realistic message I've seen in a while.
I always thought that the reason why Toothless doesn't react much to Hiccup's presence is because he's basically given up. He's been lying there for a whole night now, he must have tried to get out of those binds with all the energy he had, and by now he knows that there's two options for him: slow starvation, or getting killed by something. So when Hiccup arrives it's like "Okay, well, this is it." I think he's probably surprised at the way hiccup behaves after Hiccup steps on Toothless and the dragon moves, and he's curious about that reaction. Toothless didn't see Hiccup approach, so he doesn't know who's there before that touch, and when Hiccup jumps back, Toothless would wonder what's going on - this is unexpected. When he sees Hiccup psyching himself up, he's aware that this is not your average viking - but then Hiccup raises the knife and Toothless has no more reason to look, no more reason for curiosity. It's the same expected outcome after all. True, it's crazy how much you can read into that one eye.
HTTYD is easily one of the best animated franchises out there. I'd put it up against many live-action ones, too. I'm happy to see you enjoying this one! The lore is SO interesting, and the creativity with the different kinds of dragons is off the chain. I was caught off guard a few times, especially in scenes like these.
The first How To Train Your Dragon movie is now 13 years old, let that sink in for a moment. I remember seeing this movie as a kid at the opening day with my family, we loved it so much that we saw it three times in the theater. Damn, i can't believe it's already 13 years since the first one came out, 13 freaking years and it's still holds up very well
I remember first discovering this movie on a pirated CD that is definitely not HD because you can hear the movie goers' voices throughout. What I love in this scene is that you can hear the audiences' gasps and quiet murmurs of "omg" and just plain "wow"s that really highlights the scene. I can also vividly remember the people laughing on how Hiccup collapses after the confrontation. Watching this movie again on HD, I never really cant remove the voices watching alongside me. It adds experience IMO
last night i was literally thinking about the scene where he almost stabs toothless but changes his mind, and how when watching it again you realize that nothing in any of the movies would have happened if he decided to kill the night fury. one choice to be kind and it changed his entire village and the lives of the dragons. another message of the movie: choices matter
I will never forget when I was four years old in the theater, watching this movie with my parents. All I remember was toothless's bright green eyes, staring desperately at hiccup. The movie sparked my love for art, animated movies, and especially dragons. This movie was such a defining part of my life, I can barely think about how to criticize it and actually treat it like one. It's an experience, and in my mind, synonymous with me. Out of all the movies I've seen since, there will never be one like this. No movie ever meant more than How To Train Your Dragon.
When you realize that Grimmel killed all the other Night Furies (Toothles's family included) he was probably ready to die and basically asking Hiccup to kill him. This is low key established when Hiccup talks about the Night Fury, it never steals, never been seen and never misses, it's like he was contemplating his own death
1st and 2nd movie were my favourites, 3rd was weaker plot-wise but visually beautiful, i've always loved this scene! My cat has the same eye details as Toothless
I personally dislike how dog/puppy-like they made Toothless in the second, and especially the third movie. His face just became extremely square and big-eyed. I feel the more cat-like mannerisms of HTTYD 1 Toothless felt more.. aesthetical (can't think of a better word). It complemented the character and the mystical/majestic feel of it much better. Plus, given how much people on the internet, old and young, enjoy cat videos to this day, keeping his cat-like mannerisms and behavior wouldn't have made him any less popular or marketable to general audiences.
@@therublixcube3052I feel like the big cat/panther influences work best for Toothless in the first film, particularly with how he moves and holds himself in the scene where Hiccup first brings the fish to him. It really lends itself towards the wilder and more dangerous nature of the dragons, but you also get a sense of the (at the time unknown) intelligence that they have, in a similar kind of way to how crows can count, or how parrots can learn to say some human words. It's a big shift from the distant approach of viewing dragons as simply beasts that killed without mercy, to focusing on one individual and realising how much depth there can be to each and every dragon, which is something that's generally lost in the second and third films. (also haven't finished watching the video so hopefully I haven't repeated any points lol)
When Toothless stares at Hiccup raising the knife, I disagree that he's unafraid in his expression. I feel like he's quietly, desperately trying to tell the human, with a look, his eye expanding slowly in rising fear, that he doesn't want to die. When Hiccup continues putting on a brave face, that's when Toothless gives up and lets his head fall to the ground. Otherwise, good video!
I always interpretated Toothless's dilated and intense eyes as stoically accepting his fate. The way he looks at Hiccup reminds me of a prey animal looking at a predator, or a predator meeting their match. Terrified, but resigned. He hopes to scare Hiccup off with just his gaze, but knows that will not happen. He knows he can't escape and is at the mercy of a people who take pleasure from destroying his kind. Toothless has always had a human-like intelligence, so he also likely knows that humans are the main reason why he's one of the few of his kind left. When Hiccup tells him that he's done for, he submits fully in tired hopelessness. That is until Hiccup caves into his better nature and sets him free. Then the positions of predator-prey are reversed and Toothless returns the favor of mercy. This marks the end of the vicious cycle of revenge between dragon and human. But that is just my interpretation and is one of the many reasons why this movie is so awesome. This one scene can have dozens of interpretations.
Comment part two: I can honestly go on and on about this scene. Like how I said "tired hopelessness"? Man, I really wanted to go off about how Toothless, an incredibly strong fighter, was likely tired of all the fighting, tired of being terrorized by the queen/alpha dragon, and tired of being the last of his kind, and so WILLINGLY accepted his fate because of that--but that's borderline fanfiction. Oh, I had soooo many ideas on where this movie trilogy was gonna go before the other movies came out. I would've written so much fanfiction had I known about fanfiction back then.
I've watched How To Train Your Dragon many times and it's one of few 2010s animated movie that still holds up very well alongside with The Lego Movie. I mean even the soundtrack is fucking iconic and highly memorable
They had a couple of bugs in that movie that helped make it. The scene where Hiccup reaches out to Toothless and Toothless moves in before hesitating, that was a bug itself. He wasn't supposed to hesitate.
This movie has a lot of high caliber scenes in it. One I'd add to this is the scene of Hiccup facing the Monstrous Nightmare. For one, notice how Hiccup chooses the small knife from the weapons rack, just like the one he had with him in this scene, except now he has little intent to actually use it. Once the Nightmare is released, it establishes once again that dragons aren't murderous demons but animals trying to survive, as it's focused first on just trying to escape the pit. Once it finally targets Hiccup, it doesn't rush in for the kill. It just slowly approaches him as if waiting for Hiccup to make the next move. It's also the scene where he officially renounces who he thought for so long he was supposed to be: "I'm not one of them". Even the Nightmare is intrigued by Hiccup casting aside his helmet and was even willing to let him put his hand on its snout. It wasn't until Stoic slammed his hammer against the cage that agitated the Nightmare into going on the attack. The scene also solidifies how deep Toothless's bond with Hiccup has become, as his determination to save him drives him to finally be able to escape the sinkhole on his own and sprint to the village. Both moments additionally establish, for the first time, the perspective of how the Vikings' aggressive impulses just keep making things worse. The following scenes with Hiccup and Stoic and then Astrid are also great, but I've gone on long enough.
I love this scene but the best scene of the movie IMO, even better than the test drive scene, is the forbidden friendship scene. That sequence has always captivated me with how beautiful it is and how much is says with next to zero dialogue at all
I completely agree, the forbidden friendship scene shows the spark of such a beautiful relationship, and the growing trust between the two characters as the scene goes on. The music is also one of the best tracks of the movie and shows the emotions of the scene so well
A beautiful side note on that theme played on the bagpipes when Toothless pins Hiccup down, it is "Toothless' Theme" and this is not the first time we've heard that melody. As HIccup holds the knife over his head, it's played in a much more desperate, uncertain tone that beautifully reflects the distress and helplessness of Toothless' situation, at the mercy of a child of the vikings who have been slaying his kind without a second thought for generations. Then, the tables are turned and it is Toothless who gains the upperhand.. er, talon, when he is freed, and his tone becomes menacing, fearsome and powerful. Later in the movie, during the famous "Flight Test" scene where Toothless and Hiccup fly over the ocean together for presumably the first time ever, the iconic theme that results is a blend of Hiccup and Toothless' individual themes. I believe there's a video out there by a musical expert who explained it far batter than I ever could. It just goes to show you that they were _not_ pulling out any stops when they made this movie. Everything from the story to the subtleties and details in the animation to the musical score was ON POINT and as close to perfect as I've seen any animated film come.
Have you talked about Prince of Egypt yet? Because that one is still my number one favorite film. It still holds up as a fantastic masterpiece, Dreamworks' first real film
Recommendation for next video:the scene that changed The Sea Beast. I know that the movie definitely took a lot if inspiration from HTTYD, but i thought it had some good stuff of it's own in there, especially with showing the effects of war and propaganda.
Hard no on that "fearless" look in Toothless's eyes. When Astrid and Hiccup are watching the adults sail off, Hiccup literally says "I couldn't kill him, because he looked just as scared as I was".
One of my favourite details in HTTYD 1 is how it subtly depicted dragons as just wild animals instead of the monsters vikings believed throughout the entire movie. The most prominent of these was when Hiccup entered the arena to fight a dragon. Firstly, Hiccup picking the smallest and least dangerous weapon out of the rack showing his choice he means to solve this conflict without agression. And mostly, the moment Hookfang gets released into the arena with him. Instead of instantly charging Hiccup, the dragon looks confused and nervously searches for a way out, only turning his focus to the potential danger once he realized he can't break free. They really depicted the panic of a trapped animal very well in those few seconds.
I disagree about the part where Toothless was simply staring at Hiccup then closing his eyes as Hiccup is about to aim for the kill. I don't think he saw kindness in Hiccup, maybe he saw Hiccup as someone who wouldn't have the guts to do it, but I believed that Toothless was accepting his fate already. The fact he's still entangled through the whole night means he couldn't get out no matter what, so he must've given up in struggling any further. It also makes sense as to why Toothless got aggressive as soon as Hiccup frees him, he thought he would die and was surprised that he's free, so he thought of taking the chance and end Hiccup as his survival instincts kick in.
I think I like where we go from the peaceful scene where they Hiccup+Toothless are just hanging out with a bunch of small dragons to the vikings talking about killing them just reinforces the message.
Toothless’s theme when he pounces on Hiccup is SO good, but to my knowledge, it’s only used in the first movie, during this scene and much more subtly when just before Stoic frees him during the Red Death battle…I wonder why it wasn’t used more
DUDE, the third HTTYD movie is so worth it! I was even skeptical about The Hidden World at first because I thought that the HTTYD franchise had a "happy medium ending" with the second sequel to it. But it wasn't until I learned that the team for HTTYD was building on the franchise even more so with their TV and Netflix series then I started to want to see more, and that got me to want a ticket for The Hidden World when it came out in thearters and I actually really enjoyed it! You should go see it!
Also Dazz, thank you for helping me learn to appreciate movies scene by scene as well!!! 🥰 I do it with most movies I watch nowadays, and watching Barbie with these thoughts in mind almost made it spiritual in a way ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Another thing I LOVE about this scene is the turning point in Hiccup's personality. Up until this moment, he was a totally different person. Cocky, brash, indifferent. Hiccup was acting like how he believed a Viking was SUPPOSED to act. Because it was how he was raised and the only way of life he knew. The MOMENT he realizes he can't go through with killing the Night Fury, his true personality comes through. We finally start to see the warm, caring young man he really is. It's a true 'change of heart' scene if I've ever seen one.
Have you heard of 'lost Ollie'? It's a Netflix series with four episodes about Ollie looking his way to get back to his kid Billy and then met zozo and rosy...(I can't go too far for it but it's a reminder what it is)
Hiccup said that he looked into his eyes and that "he looked just as afraid as I was." I love the parallels between hiccup and toothless, with them being the same age, them both being leaders of their own kind, hiccups mom telling him he has the soul of a dragon. The list goes on, this series has such amazing story telling.
And this is one of the reasons we all love this trilogy and it will and always will be a trilogy....... Until a certain series was release in December 23 2021 4:40 I love how they made the bird chirps sound similar to laughing. Also do you take request, because I was wondering if you can do Rango?
Rango is a _fantastic_ film, one of my personal favorites to be honest. I love its unique and somewhat ugly (in a very artistic way)-looking artstyle, and the more adult humor really complements that feel too.
another glitch in the animation is the iconic hand scene at the end of "forbidden friendship" toothless accidentally glitches backward which gives it an hesitation feeling before fully trusting Hiccup
I never knew the eye thing was a glitch but that just makes it this movie's equivalent of Lion King's "dress in drag and do the hula" scene. Which was improv by the voice actor that was so well liked, the animators revamped that scene to use it.
The one detail I think should be added is that we cut from the overview to Hiccup's map. He drew a reasonably accurate map without the virtue of flight, and has been methodically examining it sector by sector. That takes brains. In keeping with the story thus far, he's smart but unsuccessful - His method is actually quite good, and would have gotten his results soon if he'd stuck with it, but it hasn't worked by this point and much like his life in the village he's gotten the false impression that his method is useless.
If there was any movie I would love to see and experience for the very first time again, it would be this one. I was too young to remember my first time watching it and I didn't appreciate the story and animation as much back then as I do now. This movie is undoubtedly one of the best and is my favorite movie
ALSO!! If you look at Hiccup's wrists on his outfit, he has these rope-like "bracelets" on him. Every time I notice them in that scene it always makes me think it's a metaphor of a sort, showing how Hiccup has put this creature in a sort of position that he can relate to himself. Albeit, Toothless's case being more physical than Hiccup's, but it still feels like a symbol. Of how, Hiccup said he saw himself in his eyes. And he did. He saw those ropes and that weakness, and he saw himself. He was the creature stuck in ropes awaiting death because "what could you possibly do in that scenario." Not to mention the scene itself is a back and forth shared experience, with Hiccup looking down at Toothless convincing him he was going to die and leaving him feeling hopeless, then switching to Toothless looking down at Hiccup, convincing him he was going to die and leaving him feeling hopeless. All within just a few short minutes, we have a full circle. A full loop of, "You're weak, and so am I." But as Hiccup cut off Toothless's ropes, you'll notice that in the second and third movie he doesn't wear those bracelets anymore. Signifying that after becoming Toothless's best friend, Toothless cut his ropes as well. And together they made each other whole, and set each other free
I would say the "take flight" scene is arguably better, it takes hiccups and toothlesses theme and contrasts them till they finally intertwine in a comulation of them being able to fly together
I've always believed toothless was showing fear, then resignation in this scene. Of course, he has proven himself more than agile enough to blast hiccup to kingdom come even tied up
I disagree completely with your interpretation of toothless' expression. I always interpreted toothless' reaction when hiccup is psyching himself up as more resignation than anything else. He looks at hiccup because he wants to see what's happening rather than dying unawares. He knows he can't escape and believes that hiccup is about to kill him. If anything he might be relieved that he isnt going to die slowly of dehydration or being ripped apart by wild animals. When it looks most like hiccup will go through with it he lays his head back and closes his eyes in true acceptance. Idk what else to say beyond that since i mostly agree with you on the rest of the scene.
I saw this movie in thearters and it blew my mind as a kid, its too this day the only movie I can sit there and watch all day everyday and not get bored, This movie saved me when i got trapped in my room for weeks by my evil step mom who like to ground me when all I did was do anything lol.
8:46 I think an extra thing to add here is that they HID Toothless's eyes as well. We as an audience aren't given the confirmation if he's awake or not While I know his eyes WOULD be closed anyway, this is a subtle thing to pile ontop of everything else you said
the best/most memorable scene for me is when hiccup and toothless have their first proper flight, where they actually act as one allowing them to actually fly.
Great video as always man! I'm sadly a week late to view but I never got the notification for it, it's a crime that this video doesn't have more views 😭
I do think it was a good decision from DreamWorks to not have the dragons talk like they did in the original source material. It conveys a lot more visual storytelling between the two characters of toothless and hiccup.
I don't think that Toothless sensed Hiccup's kindness. That would require more of a telepathy that Toothless never had. I think Toothless was simply aware of his own weakness and that Hiccup wasn't like the other vikings. Toothless had no idea what kind of person Hiccup was or what Hiccup would do. Toothless stared more as if he was asking questions, "So what are you going to do?"
honestly I don't care for the sequals, the tv shows are alright for expanding the lore, and maybe watch those on the side, but the second movie is only alright and the third movie starts to feel generic, especially if you've watched all the tv shows, cause by that time you've met 3 other characters who claim to have killed every night fury, it's ridiculous. the tv shows are if you want to see more dragons and adaptations of some of the books but the first movie is a masterpiece, it's sandalllone IMO, everything else is more for the kids. I really feel like the third movie dropped the ball. honestly though I don't mind, I don' care for sequels much, especially for movies like this
I once went over to my best friend’s house to see that she had a Toothless stuffed animal. I asked her if she liked the movie and she said she had never even seen it. Guess what we ended up doing that evening 🍿🐉
How about the scene that changed Tangled? I wish to see the scene that changed Encanto. Lastly, let's do the scene that changed Frozen 2 as you did a video about what you think about it.
I always found the fact that toothless was a really cool dragon in the movies kind of sad. In the books he was genuinely this weedy little rat that turned out to be a really fun character. I hate to be that guy but the books were so much better than the movies (except for the few after the king's things were all found).
I hated the second one. Total crap (though I respect "the death scene" because the made the decision to have no final words... it was just instant and irreversible). I haven't seen the third and I have no motivation to. Ever. But the first is about as perfect a movie as you could want, it is magical and amazing and charming and heart-warming and perfectly scored and perfectly told and just about every element comes around full-circle and pays off by the end. My favorite animated film to date. And for me... that's saying something. Besides... as weak as the third might have been... King Fu Panda was a FAR superior trilogy. No touches the first HTTYD... but aggregate... KFP, as a trilogy, is superior. Individually? HTTYD.
I loved most of ur dissection of this scene, but my god are you wrong about toothless in it. Toothless does NOT sense a kind person in hiccup. He does not think hes friendly inside, he doesnt think anything good. Toothless is SCARED and RESIGNED to his fate, thinking Hiccup is gonna kill him. Hes a viking afterall and to dragons it does not matter what kind of viking, just like to vikings it doesnt matter what kind of dragon the other is. They still view each other as dangerous. Toothless only changes his opinion once hiccup frees him and is very openly and obviously scared but resigned when he pins him, just like Toothless was. He spares him due to understanding. Like recognizes like. But the bias of Hiccup being a viking did not dissapear. Thats it. This all is also kinda literally stated in the movie, between Astrids and Hiccups dialogue before the climax, where she asked him why he did what he did.
I love HTTYD, but I need someone to convince me the myriad of sequels and spin-offs aren’t basically trash (except maybe the one where Hiccup grows up and is hot??? 🤔)
If you just want to follow Hiccup, Toothless and Co., avoid Rescue Riders and The Nine Realms, because those follow different characters in different places and in different times. Most of the media is actually solid and enjoyable, and if you like the world and/or the characters, it expands on and develops them. For example, the Dragons TV Series (Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk, and Race To The Edge) is decidedly darker and deeper than almost all of the other DreamWorks TV series. And even though I don't like the second and third films as much as the first film, I still like them a lot.
I honestly wished httyd wasn't for kids so we could have scenes of people burning alive and dying instead of them just running away on ships that should of sunk it always annoyed me but since its a children film I like it
Calling Toothless's Leitmotif the "main theme" I don't think is accurate. Yes, Toothless's leitmotif is in the main theme, but it's Hiccup and Toothless's themes together that makes the full song. Toothless's motif isn't even in the opening scene.
the third movie is my least favorite. Without spoiling anything, the ending completely negates the message of 'Fighting for what you love, despite the fact others may try to take it from you'
I hate to be an ass about this, but for some reason it distracted me a weird amount: hiccup and toothless are not "titular" characters, they're just the main characters. Neither character is named in the title of any of the three movies (Google's 2nd definition, which is the context I usually hear it in regarding artistic critique so I assume that's the intention). Credit where it's due, however, titular is a very fun word to say and you should say it any chance you have the opportunity.
This movie is the definition of the word "masterpiece," and this scene is undoubtedly the best. The creepy camera pan to Toothless' eye, the way he accepts his fate, and the way he stands over Hiccup before roaring and running off, it's all just so well done and satisfying.
Agreed
Why do I see this exact comment on almost all How to Train Your Dragon videos (not that it's untrue)
i feel like Hiccup in HTTYD is kinda like Bruce Wayne aka Batman in a sense.
Esta película es una historia aburrida contada de una increíble manera
Can we all agree that the roar would’ve absolutely shattered his eardrums
toothless's character was so good in this first movie cuz you can tell from how he was just watching hiccup and trying to plead to him like you can tell he really is an extremely intelligent creature
Toothless is calm and reasonable person
then they turned him into a dog...
@BlueGamersYT He's drooling and catching in the second movie😭😭
He was both dog and cat
@@fatcatowner6256have two cats that do that
I still think How to Train Your Dragon 1 is still the best movie from the trilogy, 2 and 3 don’t even matched their success compared to the first one honestly.
Agreed
why? how do you feel about the part when toothless gets captured by stoick and stoick disowned hiccup?
2 is the best movie in the series, fight me
@@AeonKnigh432 preach bro!
I loved all three for different reasons. The interactions of one were perfect, 2 was the biggest spectacle of the bunch, and 3 had the most realistic message I've seen in a while.
I always thought that the reason why Toothless doesn't react much to Hiccup's presence is because he's basically given up. He's been lying there for a whole night now, he must have tried to get out of those binds with all the energy he had, and by now he knows that there's two options for him: slow starvation, or getting killed by something. So when Hiccup arrives it's like "Okay, well, this is it."
I think he's probably surprised at the way hiccup behaves after Hiccup steps on Toothless and the dragon moves, and he's curious about that reaction. Toothless didn't see Hiccup approach, so he doesn't know who's there before that touch, and when Hiccup jumps back, Toothless would wonder what's going on - this is unexpected. When he sees Hiccup psyching himself up, he's aware that this is not your average viking - but then Hiccup raises the knife and Toothless has no more reason to look, no more reason for curiosity. It's the same expected outcome after all.
True, it's crazy how much you can read into that one eye.
This has always been my thought too, goddam it i love this scene!
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HTTYD is easily one of the best animated franchises out there. I'd put it up against many live-action ones, too. I'm happy to see you enjoying this one! The lore is SO interesting, and the creativity with the different kinds of dragons is off the chain. I was caught off guard a few times, especially in scenes like these.
Hiccups final exam part was so horrifying and scary
The first How To Train Your Dragon movie is now 13 years old, let that sink in for a moment. I remember seeing this movie as a kid at the opening day with my family, we loved it so much that we saw it three times in the theater. Damn, i can't believe it's already 13 years since the first one came out, 13 freaking years and it's still holds up very well
Time flies
THIRTEEN??? GODDAMN!
I remember first discovering this movie on a pirated CD that is definitely not HD because you can hear the movie goers' voices throughout. What I love in this scene is that you can hear the audiences' gasps and quiet murmurs of "omg" and just plain "wow"s that really highlights the scene. I can also vividly remember the people laughing on how Hiccup collapses after the confrontation. Watching this movie again on HD, I never really cant remove the voices watching alongside me. It adds experience IMO
last night i was literally thinking about the scene where he almost stabs toothless but changes his mind, and how when watching it again you realize that nothing in any of the movies would have happened if he decided to kill the night fury. one choice to be kind and it changed his entire village and the lives of the dragons. another message of the movie: choices matter
I will never forget when I was four years old in the theater, watching this movie with my parents. All I remember was toothless's bright green eyes, staring desperately at hiccup. The movie sparked my love for art, animated movies, and especially dragons. This movie was such a defining part of my life, I can barely think about how to criticize it and actually treat it like one. It's an experience, and in my mind, synonymous with me. Out of all the movies I've seen since, there will never be one like this. No movie ever meant more than How To Train Your Dragon.
When you realize that Grimmel killed all the other Night Furies (Toothles's family included) he was probably ready to die and basically asking Hiccup to kill him. This is low key established when Hiccup talks about the Night Fury, it never steals, never been seen and never misses, it's like he was contemplating his own death
1st and 2nd movie were my favourites, 3rd was weaker plot-wise but visually beautiful, i've always loved this scene! My cat has the same eye details as Toothless
I personally dislike how dog/puppy-like they made Toothless in the second, and especially the third movie. His face just became extremely square and big-eyed.
I feel the more cat-like mannerisms of HTTYD 1 Toothless felt more.. aesthetical (can't think of a better word). It complemented the character and the mystical/majestic feel of it much better.
Plus, given how much people on the internet, old and young, enjoy cat videos to this day, keeping his cat-like mannerisms and behavior wouldn't have made him any less popular or marketable to general audiences.
only the first movie is good
@@therublixcube3052I feel like the big cat/panther influences work best for Toothless in the first film, particularly with how he moves and holds himself in the scene where Hiccup first brings the fish to him. It really lends itself towards the wilder and more dangerous nature of the dragons, but you also get a sense of the (at the time unknown) intelligence that they have, in a similar kind of way to how crows can count, or how parrots can learn to say some human words.
It's a big shift from the distant approach of viewing dragons as simply beasts that killed without mercy, to focusing on one individual and realising how much depth there can be to each and every dragon, which is something that's generally lost in the second and third films.
(also haven't finished watching the video so hopefully I haven't repeated any points lol)
When Toothless stares at Hiccup raising the knife, I disagree that he's unafraid in his expression. I feel like he's quietly, desperately trying to tell the human, with a look, his eye expanding slowly in rising fear, that he doesn't want to die. When Hiccup continues putting on a brave face, that's when Toothless gives up and lets his head fall to the ground. Otherwise, good video!
I always interpretated Toothless's dilated and intense eyes as stoically accepting his fate. The way he looks at Hiccup reminds me of a prey animal looking at a predator, or a predator meeting their match. Terrified, but resigned. He hopes to scare Hiccup off with just his gaze, but knows that will not happen. He knows he can't escape and is at the mercy of a people who take pleasure from destroying his kind.
Toothless has always had a human-like intelligence, so he also likely knows that humans are the main reason why he's one of the few of his kind left. When Hiccup tells him that he's done for, he submits fully in tired hopelessness. That is until Hiccup caves into his better nature and sets him free.
Then the positions of predator-prey are reversed and Toothless returns the favor of mercy. This marks the end of the vicious cycle of revenge between dragon and human.
But that is just my interpretation and is one of the many reasons why this movie is so awesome. This one scene can have dozens of interpretations.
Comment part two: I can honestly go on and on about this scene. Like how I said "tired hopelessness"? Man, I really wanted to go off about how Toothless, an incredibly strong fighter, was likely tired of all the fighting, tired of being terrorized by the queen/alpha dragon, and tired of being the last of his kind, and so WILLINGLY accepted his fate because of that--but that's borderline fanfiction.
Oh, I had soooo many ideas on where this movie trilogy was gonna go before the other movies came out. I would've written so much fanfiction had I known about fanfiction back then.
I've watched How To Train Your Dragon many times and it's one of few 2010s animated movie that still holds up very well alongside with The Lego Movie. I mean even the soundtrack is fucking iconic and highly memorable
They had a couple of bugs in that movie that helped make it. The scene where Hiccup reaches out to Toothless and Toothless moves in before hesitating, that was a bug itself. He wasn't supposed to hesitate.
This movie has a lot of high caliber scenes in it. One I'd add to this is the scene of Hiccup facing the Monstrous Nightmare. For one, notice how Hiccup chooses the small knife from the weapons rack, just like the one he had with him in this scene, except now he has little intent to actually use it. Once the Nightmare is released, it establishes once again that dragons aren't murderous demons but animals trying to survive, as it's focused first on just trying to escape the pit. Once it finally targets Hiccup, it doesn't rush in for the kill. It just slowly approaches him as if waiting for Hiccup to make the next move. It's also the scene where he officially renounces who he thought for so long he was supposed to be: "I'm not one of them". Even the Nightmare is intrigued by Hiccup casting aside his helmet and was even willing to let him put his hand on its snout. It wasn't until Stoic slammed his hammer against the cage that agitated the Nightmare into going on the attack. The scene also solidifies how deep Toothless's bond with Hiccup has become, as his determination to save him drives him to finally be able to escape the sinkhole on his own and sprint to the village. Both moments additionally establish, for the first time, the perspective of how the Vikings' aggressive impulses just keep making things worse.
The following scenes with Hiccup and Stoic and then Astrid are also great, but I've gone on long enough.
I love this scene but the best scene of the movie IMO, even better than the test drive scene, is the forbidden friendship scene. That sequence has always captivated me with how beautiful it is and how much is says with next to zero dialogue at all
I completely agree, the forbidden friendship scene shows the spark of such a beautiful relationship, and the growing trust between the two characters as the scene goes on. The music is also one of the best tracks of the movie and shows the emotions of the scene so well
A beautiful side note on that theme played on the bagpipes when Toothless pins Hiccup down, it is "Toothless' Theme" and this is not the first time we've heard that melody. As HIccup holds the knife over his head, it's played in a much more desperate, uncertain tone that beautifully reflects the distress and helplessness of Toothless' situation, at the mercy of a child of the vikings who have been slaying his kind without a second thought for generations. Then, the tables are turned and it is Toothless who gains the upperhand.. er, talon, when he is freed, and his tone becomes menacing, fearsome and powerful.
Later in the movie, during the famous "Flight Test" scene where Toothless and Hiccup fly over the ocean together for presumably the first time ever, the iconic theme that results is a blend of Hiccup and Toothless' individual themes. I believe there's a video out there by a musical expert who explained it far batter than I ever could. It just goes to show you that they were _not_ pulling out any stops when they made this movie. Everything from the story to the subtleties and details in the animation to the musical score was ON POINT and as close to perfect as I've seen any animated film come.
Have you talked about Prince of Egypt yet? Because that one is still my number one favorite film. It still holds up as a fantastic masterpiece, Dreamworks' first real film
Recommendation for next video:the scene that changed The Sea Beast. I know that the movie definitely took a lot if inspiration from HTTYD, but i thought it had some good stuff of it's own in there, especially with showing the effects of war and propaganda.
I Would Love to See it!
Hard no on that "fearless" look in Toothless's eyes. When Astrid and Hiccup are watching the adults sail off, Hiccup literally says "I couldn't kill him, because he looked just as scared as I was".
This trilogy deserves all the praises !
One of my favourite details in HTTYD 1 is how it subtly depicted dragons as just wild animals instead of the monsters vikings believed throughout the entire movie. The most prominent of these was when Hiccup entered the arena to fight a dragon.
Firstly, Hiccup picking the smallest and least dangerous weapon out of the rack showing his choice he means to solve this conflict without agression. And mostly, the moment Hookfang gets released into the arena with him. Instead of instantly charging Hiccup, the dragon looks confused and nervously searches for a way out, only turning his focus to the potential danger once he realized he can't break free. They really depicted the panic of a trapped animal very well in those few seconds.
I disagree about the part where Toothless was simply staring at Hiccup then closing his eyes as Hiccup is about to aim for the kill. I don't think he saw kindness in Hiccup, maybe he saw Hiccup as someone who wouldn't have the guts to do it, but I believed that Toothless was accepting his fate already. The fact he's still entangled through the whole night means he couldn't get out no matter what, so he must've given up in struggling any further. It also makes sense as to why Toothless got aggressive as soon as Hiccup frees him, he thought he would die and was surprised that he's free, so he thought of taking the chance and end Hiccup as his survival instincts kick in.
I think I like where we go from the peaceful scene where they Hiccup+Toothless are just hanging out with a bunch of small dragons to the vikings talking about killing them just reinforces the message.
i have and always will say, that The first movie from the trillogy is my top movie ever
Toothless’s theme when he pounces on Hiccup is SO good, but to my knowledge, it’s only used in the first movie, during this scene and much more subtly when just before Stoic frees him during the Red Death battle…I wonder why it wasn’t used more
I would absoletely love to see a full in depth review of the entire movie, maybe even the rest of the trilogy as well
DUDE, the third HTTYD movie is so worth it! I was even skeptical about The Hidden World at first because I thought that the HTTYD franchise had a "happy medium ending" with the second sequel to it. But it wasn't until I learned that the team for HTTYD was building on the franchise even more so with their TV and Netflix series then I started to want to see more, and that got me to want a ticket for The Hidden World when it came out in thearters and I actually really enjoyed it! You should go see it!
I have never loved anything as much as this movie and I doubt I ever will. It's just so close to my heart.
Also Dazz, thank you for helping me learn to appreciate movies scene by scene as well!!! 🥰 I do it with most movies I watch nowadays, and watching Barbie with these thoughts in mind almost made it spiritual in a way ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Another thing I LOVE about this scene is the turning point in Hiccup's personality. Up until this moment, he was a totally different person. Cocky, brash, indifferent. Hiccup was acting like how he believed a Viking was SUPPOSED to act. Because it was how he was raised and the only way of life he knew. The MOMENT he realizes he can't go through with killing the Night Fury, his true personality comes through. We finally start to see the warm, caring young man he really is. It's a true 'change of heart' scene if I've ever seen one.
Have you heard of 'lost Ollie'? It's a Netflix series with four episodes about Ollie looking his way to get back to his kid Billy and then met zozo and rosy...(I can't go too far for it but it's a reminder what it is)
Hiccup said that he looked into his eyes and that "he looked just as afraid as I was." I love the parallels between hiccup and toothless, with them being the same age, them both being leaders of their own kind, hiccups mom telling him he has the soul of a dragon. The list goes on, this series has such amazing story telling.
And this is one of the reasons we all love this trilogy and it will and always will be a trilogy.......
Until a certain series was release in December 23 2021
4:40 I love how they made the bird chirps sound similar to laughing.
Also do you take request, because I was wondering if you can do Rango?
Rango is a _fantastic_ film, one of my personal favorites to be honest. I love its unique and somewhat ugly (in a very artistic way)-looking artstyle, and the more adult humor really complements that feel too.
another glitch in the animation is the iconic hand scene at the end of "forbidden friendship" toothless accidentally glitches backward which gives it an hesitation feeling before fully trusting Hiccup
I never knew the eye thing was a glitch but that just makes it this movie's equivalent of Lion King's "dress in drag and do the hula" scene. Which was improv by the voice actor that was so well liked, the animators revamped that scene to use it.
You should also review the shows, they are the reason why Snotlout is my favorite fictional character.
this and Wolf Walkers are my FAVORITE movies ✨💚✨
I knew i could take this movie seriously during the scene of the argument between hiccup and his dad in the empty hall “you are not my son”
The one detail I think should be added is that we cut from the overview to Hiccup's map. He drew a reasonably accurate map without the virtue of flight, and has been methodically examining it sector by sector. That takes brains.
In keeping with the story thus far, he's smart but unsuccessful - His method is actually quite good, and would have gotten his results soon if he'd stuck with it, but it hasn't worked by this point and much like his life in the village he's gotten the false impression that his method is useless.
If there was any movie I would love to see and experience for the very first time again, it would be this one. I was too young to remember my first time watching it and I didn't appreciate the story and animation as much back then as I do now. This movie is undoubtedly one of the best and is my favorite movie
ALSO!! If you look at Hiccup's wrists on his outfit, he has these rope-like "bracelets" on him. Every time I notice them in that scene it always makes me think it's a metaphor of a sort, showing how Hiccup has put this creature in a sort of position that he can relate to himself. Albeit, Toothless's case being more physical than Hiccup's, but it still feels like a symbol. Of how, Hiccup said he saw himself in his eyes. And he did. He saw those ropes and that weakness, and he saw himself. He was the creature stuck in ropes awaiting death because "what could you possibly do in that scenario." Not to mention the scene itself is a back and forth shared experience, with Hiccup looking down at Toothless convincing him he was going to die and leaving him feeling hopeless, then switching to Toothless looking down at Hiccup, convincing him he was going to die and leaving him feeling hopeless. All within just a few short minutes, we have a full circle. A full loop of, "You're weak, and so am I." But as Hiccup cut off Toothless's ropes, you'll notice that in the second and third movie he doesn't wear those bracelets anymore. Signifying that after becoming Toothless's best friend, Toothless cut his ropes as well. And together they made each other whole, and set each other free
I would say the "take flight" scene is arguably better, it takes hiccups and toothlesses theme and contrasts them till they finally intertwine in a comulation of them being able to fly together
I've always believed toothless was showing fear, then resignation in this scene. Of course, he has proven himself more than agile enough to blast hiccup to kingdom come even tied up
completely unrelated but hearing Doug Rattman at 14:54 is hilarious
I disagree completely with your interpretation of toothless' expression. I always interpreted toothless' reaction when hiccup is psyching himself up as more resignation than anything else. He looks at hiccup because he wants to see what's happening rather than dying unawares. He knows he can't escape and believes that hiccup is about to kill him. If anything he might be relieved that he isnt going to die slowly of dehydration or being ripped apart by wild animals. When it looks most like hiccup will go through with it he lays his head back and closes his eyes in true acceptance.
Idk what else to say beyond that since i mostly agree with you on the rest of the scene.
i cannot unhear portals 2 soundtrack with ratmans nice insanity chants in the backrounds
I saw this movie in thearters and it blew my mind as a kid, its too this day the only movie I can sit there and watch all day everyday and not get bored, This movie saved me when i got trapped in my room for weeks by my evil step mom who like to ground me when all I did was do anything lol.
The second and third movies may not have been as good as the first film but they were pretty good in their own right, and created a very good trilogy.
Those bagpipes in Toothless's theme symbolizes unfamilarity and it only comes back at the end
8:46 I think an extra thing to add here is that they HID Toothless's eyes as well. We as an audience aren't given the confirmation if he's awake or not
While I know his eyes WOULD be closed anyway, this is a subtle thing to pile ontop of everything else you said
This and the first flight scenes are my 2 favorite in the movie!
the best/most memorable scene for me is when hiccup and toothless have their first proper flight, where they actually act as one allowing them to actually fly.
Yo the portal soundtrack fits this vid so well- wtf-
Great video as always man! I'm sadly a week late to view but I never got the notification for it, it's a crime that this video doesn't have more views 😭
Dazz: "The fact that I haven't covered it yet is criminal and paradoxical".
Me: You-right!
Just a correction, but the instrument at 17:01 is a hurdy gurdy.
This master piece of this scene changed the franchise forever!❤️🔥🙌🏻
Honestly, the 3rd movie was beautiful, but it sucked.
Yeah, pretty much letting the villain win in the end
I do think it was a good decision from DreamWorks to not have the dragons talk like they did in the original source material. It conveys a lot more visual storytelling between the two characters of toothless and hiccup.
This duology is such an amazing series❤!
And there's the third one.
the part when toothless gets captured by stoick and stoick disowned hiccup and ready the ship was too heartbreaking, horrifying, and terrible
I don't think that Toothless sensed Hiccup's kindness. That would require more of a telepathy that Toothless never had. I think Toothless was simply aware of his own weakness and that Hiccup wasn't like the other vikings. Toothless had no idea what kind of person Hiccup was or what Hiccup would do. Toothless stared more as if he was asking questions, "So what are you going to do?"
I feel like you should’ve done the forbidden friendship scene, but hey you do you.
honestly I don't care for the sequals, the tv shows are alright for expanding the lore, and maybe watch those on the side, but the second movie is only alright and the third movie starts to feel generic, especially if you've watched all the tv shows, cause by that time you've met 3 other characters who claim to have killed every night fury, it's ridiculous. the tv shows are if you want to see more dragons and adaptations of some of the books
but the first movie is a masterpiece, it's sandalllone IMO, everything else is more for the kids. I really feel like the third movie dropped the ball. honestly though I don't mind, I don' care for sequels much, especially for movies like this
Oh great thanks! Now you're gonna make me watch it again! I blame you!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAY I’VE BEEN WANTING YOU TO COVER THIS
To be honest
I remember this scene as a YTP version of it and its very funny
httyd AND dazz? i'll take it
something about animation bugs making movies better. (I refuse to say "shows" for semi obvious reasons)
Your analysis on the eye part was a stretch but everything else was good
I once went over to my best friend’s house to see that she had a Toothless stuffed animal. I asked her if she liked the movie and she said she had never even seen it. Guess what we ended up doing that evening
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How about the scene that changed Tangled? I wish to see the scene that changed Encanto. Lastly, let's do the scene that changed Frozen 2 as you did a video about what you think about it.
Imagine a DreamWorks Space Jam movoe with a NBA player
I always found the fact that toothless was a really cool dragon in the movies kind of sad. In the books he was genuinely this weedy little rat that turned out to be a really fun character. I hate to be that guy but the books were so much better than the movies (except for the few after the king's things were all found).
This movie was life changing for me.
Am I hearing a heavily improved kass theme???
In the wise words of Bob Ross: "There are no such things as mistakes. Only happy accidents."
I have never actually watched the How To Train Your Dragon movies
If you got 2 hours to kill, it would be an interesting diversion.
What are you doing with your life? Go watch them!
I hated the second one. Total crap (though I respect "the death scene" because the made the decision to have no final words... it was just instant and irreversible). I haven't seen the third and I have no motivation to. Ever. But the first is about as perfect a movie as you could want, it is magical and amazing and charming and heart-warming and perfectly scored and perfectly told and just about every element comes around full-circle and pays off by the end. My favorite animated film to date. And for me... that's saying something.
Besides... as weak as the third might have been... King Fu Panda was a FAR superior trilogy. No touches the first HTTYD... but aggregate... KFP, as a trilogy, is superior. Individually? HTTYD.
I loved most of ur dissection of this scene, but my god are you wrong about toothless in it. Toothless does NOT sense a kind person in hiccup. He does not think hes friendly inside, he doesnt think anything good. Toothless is SCARED and RESIGNED to his fate, thinking Hiccup is gonna kill him. Hes a viking afterall and to dragons it does not matter what kind of viking, just like to vikings it doesnt matter what kind of dragon the other is. They still view each other as dangerous. Toothless only changes his opinion once hiccup frees him and is very openly and obviously scared but resigned when he pins him, just like Toothless was. He spares him due to understanding. Like recognizes like. But the bias of Hiccup being a viking did not dissapear. Thats it. This all is also kinda literally stated in the movie, between Astrids and Hiccups dialogue before the climax, where she asked him why he did what he did.
'TOO MANY DAMN DRAGONS' who hurt you ;-;
"I looked at him, and I saw myself"
0:50 What titular characters? There are no names in the title of this movie
What's the music you used at 6:12? I swear I recognise it, but I don't know where from.
Great series show included, just ignore the Nine Realms.
i hear portal 2 soundtrack?
I love HTTYD, but I need someone to convince me the myriad of sequels and spin-offs aren’t basically trash (except maybe the one where Hiccup grows up and is hot??? 🤔)
Pretty much everything in this franchise minus the third movie and the nine realms is very good to great.
If you just want to follow Hiccup, Toothless and Co., avoid Rescue Riders and The Nine Realms, because those follow different characters in different places and in different times.
Most of the media is actually solid and enjoyable, and if you like the world and/or the characters, it expands on and develops them. For example, the Dragons TV Series (Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk, and Race To The Edge) is decidedly darker and deeper than almost all of the other DreamWorks TV series.
And even though I don't like the second and third films as much as the first film, I still like them a lot.
They continue how to train your dragon with a series dragons the nine realms
So this is what it feels like to have your favorite movie be called a classic, any other 2000s kids?
This is making me want a horror version of HTTYD
I honestly wished httyd wasn't for kids so we could have scenes of people burning alive and dying instead of them just running away on ships that should of sunk it always annoyed me but since its a children film I like it
Calling Toothless's Leitmotif the "main theme" I don't think is accurate. Yes, Toothless's leitmotif is in the main theme, but it's Hiccup and Toothless's themes together that makes the full song. Toothless's motif isn't even in the opening scene.
the third movie is my least favorite. Without spoiling anything, the ending completely negates the message of 'Fighting for what you love, despite the fact others may try to take it from you'
Yo.. why are the books so different?
if your intention was to leave us wanting more you acheaved that
intire movie is master piece, but this scene is nothing compared to test flight.
I hate to be an ass about this, but for some reason it distracted me a weird amount: hiccup and toothless are not "titular" characters, they're just the main characters. Neither character is named in the title of any of the three movies (Google's 2nd definition, which is the context I usually hear it in regarding artistic critique so I assume that's the intention). Credit where it's due, however, titular is a very fun word to say and you should say it any chance you have the opportunity.
Um, his outfit is green and brown, not gray and brown
Hm, interesting Scene.