I was actually so shocked that the Kaminoans helped the Bad Batch. It brought back some respect I had lost for them with how they had treated Tup and Fives in season 6
The Kaminoans never do anything nice “for free” lol. I think they let them go because of the threat the Empire is posing to them currently, letting the bad batch go free, might come to help them later
Not me. I mean it's interesting as all hell, but the Kaminoans are always ultimately out for themselves. Echo may be more machine than man in flesh, but these people are living robots.
I feel that it was mostly because they felt the Empire would cancel their deal with the Kaminoans. Reminded me of the (legends only) clone rebellion on Kamino.
They were always the bad guys. They were sent to slaughter freedom fighters who wanted independence from a corrupt and evil Galactic Republic. CIS FOR LIFE! THE CONFEDERACY SHALL RISE AGAIN!
They realized what the clones will eventually realize that they only served a purpose. The clones were forced to kill off the Jedi and we’re discarded like trash just a few years after that
Didn't the clones always know that they were cannon fodder bred for war? I guess the clones didn't think too much about what would happen after the war ends but they still knew that they only had 1 purpose.
The Clone Wars was ALL just a means to an end: the criminalization and wiping out of 99.9% of all Jedi, the consolidation of political control under Palpatine, the corruption of the Chosen One, and the birth of the Empire. ALL of them were being played. The Kaminoans figured they would be able to continue the cloning program and just keeeeeep the money flowing in, but the Emperor is screwing them over by ending the use of clones AND by refusing to pay the Kaminoans given the contract applied to the Republic not the Empire which is a technicality they KNOW to be BS. This isn't some act of remorse or them wanting redemption. They want their damn money.
Thats what the chips are for. It seems like the chips flick a switch and turn them from the characters we knew and loved into sociopathic early stormtroopers.
I bet Crosshair makes his own toothpicks, cause all you need is a knife and some sticks from the battlefield and then just whittle away in your spare time
I think one of the greatest thing about the episode is how lively it is with the bad batch despite the situation and setting. It's so charming even at points. They are omega chads.
Tarkin: "Switch to live fire." Prime Minister: "I must object to that." Me: Huh, that's a bit uncharacteristically thoughtful of him. Prime Minister: "It could risk damaging our property." Me: Ah, there it is.
Tunnel vision, trawn was the better of the two because he wanted better star fighters the empire could have been better equipped and have put up a much better fight.
Tarkin had the demeanor of an intelligent and well educated person but was actually a massive dumbass from day 1. Every single decision he ever made only hurt the empire and served the rebellion in the long run
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl I mean all major aspects of the empire saw the death star as invincible. And you dont need to spend much extra cash when if a planet misbehaves you just fire 1 shot and its gone
@@trainman5675 The problem is that you potentially lose a valuable resource by blowing up a planet, and that you'll end up growing the rebellion more. Which happened with Alderaan. If I remember a lot of Alderaan-born Imperials defected to the rebels.
@@Razgriz_01 that's fair. Tarkin and palpatine both thought that fear would be enough to deter all threats. In most civilians sure. But it wont stop those who remember.
I believe Nala Se only cared about Omega. We see that Omega is extremely skilled in reading people which probably helped her get Nala to care about her.
@@mire1390 We don't yet know what her original purpose was but she did work as a medical assistant with the kaminoans. She even knew about the inhibitor chips and their purpose which could mean that she was closer to being considered a kaminoan than anyone alse. Or maybe Nala Se just decided to gift her one
@@JerppeStolenstolten Yup, I’m super excited to see her character development and what her enhanced ability or abilities will be. I do think that the bad batch is nala se creation, and out of all the clones the bad batch seem to get special attention and care, that explains why in their room they had special little gifts like wreckers Lula, other clones didn’t have any of that. But Omega tho, there is a reason why she is so special to the kaminoans. Maybe she is probably the most capable clone from the bad batch once we see her skills develop. And right now that is very vital to the kaminoans since their relationship with the empire and their own survival will depend on that. Sometime I think nala se kept omega as a medical assistant to keep her close to her and in a way protect her from the empire. She knows something that omega is that the empire does not know yet. Idk these are just my thoughts, can’t wait to see!!
Honestly I hope the Kaminoan Rebellion lasts more than a year. The Empire's current army and navy is made up of 90% clones, most of which will end up siding with the Kaminoans for obvious reasons sooner or later. Also Clones have proven to be superior to normal humans + imagine the logistics nightmare of building new armors, guns, etc. for the new Stormtroopers
@@quakethedoombringer 90% of the army are clones with chips that make them loyal to Palpatine. And well there is the fact the Empire is likely already creating a conscript army as they speak.
It'll also be a good, and sad, way to finally explain how the Clones were eventually replaced so quickly. A large majority of them got their chips removed, turned on the Empire, and made a last-stand on Kamino as Darth Vader leads the assault against them.
not only the clone rebellion, imagine if we got references to the commandos from Karen Traviss's republic commando novels? that'd be sick, and plus they could use it as an opportunity to pick up and finish the story of Omega Squad from where Traviss left off at the end of Imperial commando: 501st. I mean, as if the bad batch wasn't already epic enough! Imagine if we got to see Hunter, Wrecker, Tech, Echo, and Omega all travel to Mandalore and visit clan Skirata and Kyrimorut?! AHHH!!!! I'd literally be crying if that happened. we'd finally get to see Kal'buir (Papa Kal), the rest of Omega squad, Darman and Etain's kid, all of the null arcs, Jusik, some of the Cuy'val dar, Walon Vau, and everybody else! And we already know that at least Delta squad (One of the commando squads Vau trained) is canon, because they had a brief appearance in Clone wars during the nightsisters arc! And it would be such a great way to tie in some of the most beloved legends/EU material into canon! COME ON FILONI, I'M COUNTING ON YOU!
I think we've all been waiting to see the "The Aftemath" of order 66 since ROTS. That was an incredible 1st ep. I always thaught Nala Se was a cruel Kaminoan. I wasnt expecting her to help in anyway! May the 4th be with everyone!
Maybe this is how we get Boba into the show, Kaminoan rebellion from ClassicFront 2 but with the Bad Batch using it to try and get Crosshair back, and Boba treating the job as a start to his career as a bounty hunter
If it ended up as Fett vs. the Bad Batch I want Fett to win. He doesn’t have to kill them I don’t want that....I just want to see more of the notorious Boba Fett on screen like in The Mandalorian.
Don’t know why not a lot of people notice but the medical droid that helped echo after the cafe fight is actually the very same droid that helped Fives to find out about Order 66
Imagine if we get a Clone Wars'/Bad Batch version of the 501st Journal detailing the events of the Clone rebellion on Kamino just like Battlefront II 2005.
@@jarrodedson5441 battlefront 2 from 2005 obviously Battlefront 11. (Counting all games either canceled, or aren't even remembered from the pandemic studio era).
I think it's because of Omega. She has a similar headpiece as Nala Se. Maybe she imitates her because she's a mother figure or Nala Se sees her as a daughter.
Republic: Gimme clones. Kaminoans: Pay this ridiculous amount of credits. Republic: Fiiiine. Empire: Gimme clones. Kaminoans: Pay this ridiculous amount of credits. Empire: No. Kaminoans: *Clone Rebellion* Empire: So you have chosen death.
@@andrewmeyer3599 Who knows I get impression that Palpatine wants to get rid off of clones either way, because they are simple unreliable. He knows that what happened to jedi could happened to him in the future, so he wants to replace clone army with weaker one reguler army who does not try to kill him only with pushing the button.
@@Yes_Fantasy_419 Thats not problem as longa as you can replace them which Kamino can. And they have one big advantage, unlike their replacement they werent bested by fucking tedy-bears. Their biggest disandvatage is that they can be made to turn on their masters very easily thats why it is better to have weaker yet less dangerous stormtroopers.
I doubt it. Crewing all the ISD's alone would probably cost about the same as building said ISD's. Sure it would have been possible but if his choice was clone military or Death Star funding... which do you think he'd go for. This isn't Thrawn who wanted the best of the best. This is the man that thought intimidation was better than quality, so why bother with quality troops?
If they raised birthed humans like the first order but trained them like clones it would’ve been cheaper as it would have cut the cost of creating them but they would’ve been just as effective
@@bobbynewman7089 Clones grow to adulthood much faster (at least twice the rate), so they are cheaper from birth to battlefield. Their physical quality is also uniform, which means training and equipping can be uniform.
"So Palpatine has a new army. I have no doubt he'll find our cloning operations a threat one day very soon, and seek to destroy our capabilities. But he's a fool if he believes we handed over all of the combat-trained Fett clones to him." ―Lama Su, Kaminoan prime minister, on discovering Palpatine's new Imperial Army. (Legends) so, will the Kaminoans be wiped off the face of the galaxy by the empire in the same way as the Geonosians? PS: did anyone else notice that Taun We (the female kaminoan who received Obi Wan in episode 2) was in the episode after almost 2 decades withour appearing in an audio visual medium?
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl i don't know. the few times she was seen was in legends, one in the Republic comic book series, during the first separatist invasion of Kamino. other in the comics based on the 2003 Clone Wars series and the las time was in one of the "Legacy of the Jedi" books. in that series, Boba is a 70+ years old man with a cronic illnes because he is a clone, in his search for a cure he found an old Taun We, she was no longer work in the Kaminoan goverment but in a rival cloning company. they began talking about certain things, including Boba's illnes and she ask if he is going to kill her, the old Fett refuse because she was the closest thing to a mother for him and wouln't dare to harm her. when Boba was going to leave, he remove any bounty over Taun's head and decided to accept a contract for her, demanding the assasination of a man who fought with the seps in another invasion of Kaminoin the clone wars (if we include the one of the Republic comics and the one in TCW, then Kamino was invaded 3 times during the war), after that they never see each other again.
Could you imagine we get a version of the Clone Wars' verison of the 501st journal in some extra scene/content which details over the clone rebellion of Kamino.
Me: *Hasn't watched the Bad Batch yet, haven't had time* Geetsly: "Go watch the Bad Batch before watching this video. Consider that an order, trooper." Me: "Good soldiers follow orders."
I wish so badly they would animate revenge of the sith like they did with the clone wars S7 and the bad batch. It's not just animation anymore, It's art
Tarkin: We are planning to terminate your contract because clones are no longer useful to us. The Kaminoans: This is outrageous! It's unfair! Jokes aside, really seems like the Bad Batch are going to be a Star Wars version of The A-Team.
I heard rumors of an Execute order against the Republic if they misuse the Clones that the kaminoans created I'm not for sure but maybe that could be a way that the kaminoans might start the Rebellion if it ever comes
It occurs to me that would be the reason Palapatine would not Kamino-bred clones. He could never know whether there was another order hidden within the inhibitor chip that would serve Kamino's purpose if he were ever at odds with them.
@@kirkdarling4120 of course but it'd be nice to see the Rebellion just look at it starting to build up to that the prime minister is getting very suspicious of the Empire and starting to really distrust them and starting to bread their own bad batch clone just almost like in the comics this could be the Camino of but can me and Rebellion
I love how you call it a childhood favorite and I was over 30 when the Clone Wars first started. Haha. But seriously, I love that the Star Wars i grew up with in the late 70's/80's is still as strong as ever!!!
She was helping Omega, not the Bad batch. I think she has a reason for keeping her alive. Whether it’s an attachment or a motive. She knew that if omega didn’t escape with the bad batch that Tarkin would have her killed.
The special clones must be why 99 was allowed to live. We questioned why someone so clearly defective wasn't decommissioned, but if the mutations were something they were testing, then...
The thing about Kamino (in Legends at least) is it’s heavily used for the Starkiller clones in TFU 2. Now, while that is just Legends, it still heavily implies that there are Kaminoans who are heavy Imperial sympathizers and will be around long into the future to aid the Empire’s and Vader’s efforts.
Did anyone notice when tarkin was leaving their barracks after giving them their mission that one of the clones didn’t have a blaster but was still acting like he was holding one?
I could be wrong but I think Omega might be a clone of Jedi master Sifo Dyas They could’ve got some of his DNA from when he Crashed, maybe so no one would recognize the clone they altered the DNA so that instead of a He the Clone would come out as a she. I know it’s out there but it’s kinda sort plausible in the Star Wars universe 🌌
I think that Nala Se let them escape because she does genuinely care for Omega considering that afterwards she told the Prime Minister they escaped, not that she helped them escape.
Crosshair's most notable clone advancement is his deadly precision, but what many don't know, is that his interspecies genetic advancement are far more fascinating; he is able to grow toothpicks.
Oh I thought I was the only one questioning about Crosshair’s toothpicks. Seriously, where the hell does he get them? Imagine just carrying an entire pouch of them on your belt😆
One reason I think she let them escape is because of omega. Clearly, she must have a bond to her or Omega is her own personal Creation like ARZAIC said in the comments. Omega somehow knew what cross-hair was thinking I think she probably has force abilities or just has some of the bad batches abilites. Omega would have been In danger if she did not let them (Bad batch and omega) escape so she let the bad batch take her so she could be safe. Edit: I changed up how I wrote it to be more Readable. @ARZIAC Got what I was trying to say, but yeah that's what I think actually happened. I am wrong on the force part so don't try to argue about that one.
Well Omega was her assistant, probably her own project and almost daughter like seemingly. Most likely helped because as you said, Nala Se didn't want her to get hurt and most likely knew she would have been in danger should Omega had stayed. So she knew the Bad Batch would protect her.
Omega telling Crosshair she knew what he was going to do wasn't force abilities. It was either her knowing he has the chip implanted when the others did not, or like any reasonable person, was perceptive about how he was acting compared to the other members of the bad batch after watching and listening to his actions and speech. Just because she said she knew what he was going to do and asked him to not do it doesn't mean she has force powers. Fun theory, but I don't think that will be the case since this series isn't focusing on Jedi or the force in any way. The more reasonable theory is she is the last mutated clone who alone has a mixture of abilities that the Bad Batch individually possess. However, it could also be that the Empire forces the Kaminoans to produce more mutated clones to go after the Bad Batch in hopes of detaining or eliminating them when Tarkin realizes regs can't get the job done. I think a Kaminoan and clone rebellion is what we're going to see near the end of the series, as the series ends with a last ditch effort to have the Bad Batch kill Tarkin, with the help of Saw Gerrera and free or help their clone brothers fight the Empire, dying in the process. No force powers, only mutant powers.
Omega could always be the Kaminoans attempt at replicating the powers of a Jedi. Though that may be a stretch compared to the more probable analysis explained by Tech in the episode. Tech explained that Omega has *heightened awareness,* and that means she can pick up on things faster than most. Like how she was able to detect Crosshair before he entered the hangar, or Fire a DC-15A Carbine at Crosshairs rifle despite having no experience with weapons before hand. Or as mentioned earlier how she was aware of what Crosshair was experiencing with the inhibitor chip and how he was trying to fight it. I also like the idea of Nala Se looking to Omega as a daughter, even though you don’t really count on the Kaminoans being the family types, but perhaps Omega is a special case in this regard.
Let's be honest we all wanted the Kamino Uprising to happen. And it looks like it is coming. Not sure if the Kaminoian's are going to win but we want the fight.
Yea sad to say we know they lose if this is the direction they go with it...BUT who wouldn’t want to see Vader dispatch Boba Fett and the 501st down to kamino and the Bad Batch just waiting (almost like the first battle of kamino except the antagonists win)
"Who know that the Kaminoans were 'American' this whole time." Well, that threw me off and snickering, as for the statement, being an American, the Kaminoans are more enterprising, deep down very violent, compared to all the other species in Star Wars, even the Hutt's, it dose match up.
How to beat the bad batch: try to split them up, since they are “specialized” with specific traits makes them great as a team but bad as individuals, so split up the bad batch and exploit their weaknesses and take em out one at a time
My theory is that Omega is an experimental clone with force sensitivity that the Kaminos tried to make. When she fired the gun without knowing how, I think that was a hint that she can use the force. "I guess I just got lucky" Luck is ALWAYS the force in Star Wars.
My head canon is that luck and the Force both exist but work in conjunction with each other. Call it the “will of the Force” and how cosmic Force interacts with living Force.
I think when they altered crosshairs chip, they might have secretly put a program into him to, on command, turn against the empire for the kalmenoes. The first of many for their rebellion. Remember in certain clone wars episodes, rex stated that some clones regard kalmeno as their personal home world, that an attack on it ...as rex would say "they better have a big blaster"
You know now I think think about it,what would've happen if the stormtroopers that were in the clone rebellion were humans instead of clones? Because of I recall the imperial troops that fought the anti-troopers were actually clones
What’s wild and I’m surprised no one has discussed this, the kaminoans created the clones gave them inhibitor chips they can have failsafe to turn the clones on the empire the empire are nothing without the clone army Im sure they can alter the chips like they did to cross hair why hasn’t anyone discussed this
I don't think the Kaminoans helped the bad batch escape as part of a plot as the prime minister showed surprise over the them getting away with Omega, while Nala Se never told him that she helped them escape. I think Nala Se cares for Omega because she see's her student as an individual/daughter/person rather than how other Kaminoans sees clones as property/tools.
Three things I would like to see in this series. The Sacking of Naboo, the Last Orah of the Clankers on Mustafar, and the failed Kaminoan Rebellion. Or really, just anything related to the Rise of The Empire Era on the Battlefront 2 campaign
Anyone else notice how aggressive and irritable the clones were on kamino? It just seemed they all had a short temper all the sudden, even after order 66 was over.
I guess the chips remained active since they were triggered. It's sad though that even all their personalities changed once they where corrupted by the order.
I wasn’t really surprised especially with how the empire has already treated them. The key will be finding out what the key is with omega. They don’t trust the empire or Tarkin. They are hedging their bets. That’s what it most likely comes down to.
this is always fascinating, if money wasnt a real issue to the empire, it could've recruited from the galaxy and kept making clones as a more reserve elite army but production on them would be greatly reduced, and all clones that were veterans of the clone wars could,ve all be given to vader as a sort of personally army for the sith, i know this is highly unrealistic but just fun to imagine
>Kaminoan interests at risk >Disable inhibitor chips >Tarkin now has no army >Tarkin gets some soliders >Tarkin sends soldiers to Kamino for their first test as conscription soldiers >Whoever wins is who Tarkin chooses EZ
I think 🤔 the bad batch were saved so if they were a clone rebellion the bad batch could lead them plus as well support greatly because the bad batch can take on a entire army that’s how deadly they are makes sense
You made a couple of references to recruited troops, suggesting Tarkin and his allies were were lobbying for a volunteer military. Tarkin specifically used the term conscripts...meaning a draft or compulsory military service.
If Filoni’s as knowledgeable as he is when it comes to Star Wars, then he knows full well that when the Kaminoans helped the bad batch escape that Fans were going to associate that act with the Battlefront 2 mission/Legends story involving The Clone Rebellion. If this story is brought into the timeline at an earlier date I’ve got no problem with it. They could even incorporate Vader into it to compensate for Boba Fett being too young at the time.
@@dustyrc we really don’t know if he’s in the Armor yet, since it has been established those Unfinished scenes such as the showdown between Cad Bane and Boba are not canon. Until they are finished that is.
Kaminoans is gonna hire a bounty hunter to get Omega back, that why Hunter took a speeder to get her back in the trailer. My guesses for the second episode.
The episode was great. It's always great to see Kanan (I know he's called Caleb at the time,but he's Kanan Jarrus damnit) It also explains why he's so distrustful to Rex acting nice. To him, he nearly got killed by a Clone pretending to be nice while another took a shot at him
Clone rebellion on Kamino, that is what ive been waiting for! Thats one storyline that i used to love from the early empire days. The clone wars was my favorite era since i saw attack of the clones in theaters. I was always so sad the material for that era was lacking and felt scattered/unfocused, the clone wars show was awesome and ive longed to see the clones live through the imperial transition to their own discontinuing.
Yes. It was VERY interesting that Nala Se let Omega and Force 99 go. Either she loved Omega; or wanted to keep Omega safe from the Empire for use in the future.
The Kaminoans must be who Netflix hires to speak to people who call in to cancel their subscription; they’re clearly masters of keeping people in their contracts.
I just noticed something with Omega. Could it be that she is actually force sensetive. Hear me out on this one. She can sense what people can feal around her very acuratly. She also knows that Wrecker is searching his plushy without even knowing it belongs to him. Furthermore she hits crosshairs blaster without training. So what do you think is Omega a force sensetive clone?
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I was actually so shocked that the Kaminoans helped the Bad Batch. It brought back some respect I had lost for them with how they had treated Tup and Fives in season 6
I still hate them for that
The Kaminoans never do anything nice “for free” lol. I think they let them go because of the threat the Empire is posing to them currently, letting the bad batch go free, might come to help them later
Not me. I mean it's interesting as all hell, but the Kaminoans are always ultimately out for themselves. Echo may be more machine than man in flesh, but these people are living robots.
I feel that it was mostly because they felt the Empire would cancel their deal with the Kaminoans. Reminded me of the (legends only) clone rebellion on Kamino.
She did not help the bad batch the reason she helped was because omega was with them otherwise she would have not helped
It broke all our hearts to see our clone bois being the bad guys
Well said.
Good soilders follow orders
When your fav bois become bad bois 😭
They were always the bad guys. They were sent to slaughter freedom fighters who wanted independence from a corrupt and evil Galactic Republic. CIS FOR LIFE! THE CONFEDERACY SHALL RISE AGAIN!
@@geetslys they are the good guys wiping out traitors and annihilating the separatists is the best thing they do and they achieved it
They realized what the clones will eventually realize that they only served a purpose. The clones were forced to kill off the Jedi and we’re discarded like trash just a few years after that
Didn't the clones always know that they were cannon fodder bred for war? I guess the clones didn't think too much about what would happen after the war ends but they still knew that they only had 1 purpose.
@@1ProAssassin The clones only thught about The war and did didnt know what could happen after The war
The Clone Wars was ALL just a means to an end: the criminalization and wiping out of 99.9% of all Jedi, the consolidation of political control under Palpatine, the corruption of the Chosen One, and the birth of the Empire. ALL of them were being played. The Kaminoans figured they would be able to continue the cloning program and just keeeeeep the money flowing in, but the Emperor is screwing them over by ending the use of clones AND by refusing to pay the Kaminoans given the contract applied to the Republic not the Empire which is a technicality they KNOW to be BS. This isn't some act of remorse or them wanting redemption. They want their damn money.
Thats what the chips are for. It seems like the chips flick a switch and turn them from the characters we knew and loved into sociopathic early stormtroopers.
Yes
I bet Crosshair makes his own toothpicks, cause all you need is a knife and some sticks from the battlefield and then just whittle away in your spare time
I figured they were splinters from previous missions!
He is like star wars winter soldier
@Sam Beckett pretty sure Cad Bane also has a toothpick
@@macewindu3492 if I remember correctly,the toothpick was in place of cigarettes
I was litterlay thinking of that everything he pulled one out if he just has a pouch on his belt full of toothpicks.
I think one of the greatest thing about the episode is how lively it is with the bad batch despite the situation and setting. It's so charming even at points. They are omega chads.
Heh, "Omega" chads
I really love this team, filoni and his team are really carrying Star Wars nowadays
I think omega is a clone of female Jedi with jango fetts dna
Tarkin: "Switch to live fire."
Prime Minister: "I must object to that."
Me: Huh, that's a bit uncharacteristically thoughtful of him.
Prime Minister: "It could risk damaging our property."
Me: Ah, there it is.
Kaminoans...
What was Tarkin trying to prove? If he threw conscripts in the same test they'd be dead in seconds.
@@TraceguyRune he wanted to kill them. He knew kanan survived and wanted to kill them
Yes
@@TraceguyRune he wanted to keep them. That's why he asked for that extra round. if they could beat live fire then they were worth the hassle.
Tarkin: Clones are too expensive and aren't effective enough
Also Tarkin: Yo let's overspend and put all our eggs in one basket with a death star.
Tunnel vision, trawn was the better of the two because he wanted better star fighters the empire could have been better equipped and have put up a much better fight.
Tarkin had the demeanor of an intelligent and well educated person but was actually a massive dumbass from day 1. Every single decision he ever made only hurt the empire and served the rebellion in the long run
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl I mean all major aspects of the empire saw the death star as invincible. And you dont need to spend much extra cash when if a planet misbehaves you just fire 1 shot and its gone
@@trainman5675 The problem is that you potentially lose a valuable resource by blowing up a planet, and that you'll end up growing the rebellion more. Which happened with Alderaan. If I remember a lot of Alderaan-born Imperials defected to the rebels.
@@Razgriz_01 that's fair. Tarkin and palpatine both thought that fear would be enough to deter all threats. In most civilians sure. But it wont stop those who remember.
I believe Nala Se only cared about Omega. We see that Omega is extremely skilled in reading people which probably helped her get Nala to care about her.
I always wondered why only omega got to wear kaminoan jewel piece like they did, I can see your thought making sense of this.
@@mire1390 We don't yet know what her original purpose was but she did work as a medical assistant with the kaminoans. She even knew about the inhibitor chips and their purpose which could mean that she was closer to being considered a kaminoan than anyone alse. Or maybe Nala Se just decided to gift her one
@@JerppeStolenstolten Yup, I’m super excited to see her character development and what her enhanced ability or abilities will be. I do think that the bad batch is nala se creation, and out of all the clones the bad batch seem to get special attention and care, that explains why in their room they had special little gifts like wreckers Lula, other clones didn’t have any of that. But Omega tho, there is a reason why she is so special to the kaminoans. Maybe she is probably the most capable clone from the bad batch once we see her skills develop. And right now that is very vital to the kaminoans since their relationship with the empire and their own survival will depend on that. Sometime I think nala se kept omega as a medical assistant to keep her close to her and in a way protect her from the empire. She knows something that omega is that the empire does not know yet. Idk these are just my thoughts, can’t wait to see!!
I think so to with the jewelry and all. I think it’s more likely that nala is more concerned with omega.
Cafe fight was kind of funny in the bad Batch show scene
It really humanized the clones more
LOL. The regs really acted like they could take on Wrecker.
Inhibitor chips probably fried their common sense
@@josephdoria5237 how else would they think they would kill Jedi safely
I'm wondering why Echo says "Not again...", what was the first food fight? Did we miss it, or did Wrecker do this kind of thing a lot? xD
Imagine the finale of the season is the Kaminoan Rebellion, this show would be a masterpiece
That would be epic no.... legendary!!
True
Imagine boba was there
Honestly I hope the Kaminoan Rebellion lasts more than a year. The Empire's current army and navy is made up of 90% clones, most of which will end up siding with the Kaminoans for obvious reasons sooner or later. Also Clones have proven to be superior to normal humans + imagine the logistics nightmare of building new armors, guns, etc. for the new Stormtroopers
@@quakethedoombringer 90% of the army are clones with chips that make them loyal to Palpatine. And well there is the fact the Empire is likely already creating a conscript army as they speak.
I was honestly surprised when I saw that scene and was left with a lot of questions lmao
Let’s all hope that the Kaminoan rebellion really is gonna get its canon treatment. There is no more perfect opportunity that with Bad Batch.
How about a new canon battlefront game?
It'll also be a good, and sad, way to finally explain how the Clones were eventually replaced so quickly. A large majority of them got their chips removed, turned on the Empire, and made a last-stand on Kamino as Darth Vader leads the assault against them.
not only the clone rebellion, imagine if we got references to the commandos from Karen Traviss's republic commando novels? that'd be sick, and plus they could use it as an opportunity to pick up and finish the story of Omega Squad from where Traviss left off at the end of Imperial commando: 501st.
I mean, as if the bad batch wasn't already epic enough! Imagine if we got to see Hunter, Wrecker, Tech, Echo, and Omega all travel to Mandalore and visit clan Skirata and Kyrimorut?! AHHH!!!! I'd literally be crying if that happened. we'd finally get to see Kal'buir (Papa Kal), the rest of Omega squad, Darman and Etain's kid, all of the null arcs, Jusik, some of the Cuy'val dar, Walon Vau, and everybody else! And we already know that at least Delta squad (One of the commando squads Vau trained) is canon, because they had a brief appearance in Clone wars during the nightsisters arc! And it would be such a great way to tie in some of the most beloved legends/EU material into canon!
COME ON FILONI, I'M COUNTING ON YOU!
@@Razgriz_01 sad thing was they were real people not like robots.
I think we've all been waiting to see the "The Aftemath" of order 66 since ROTS. That was an incredible 1st ep. I always thaught Nala Se was a cruel Kaminoan. I wasnt expecting her to help in anyway! May the 4th be with everyone!
This is the May.
@Meena Ramakrishnan yes
Maybe this is how we get Boba into the show, Kaminoan rebellion from ClassicFront 2 but with the Bad Batch using it to try and get Crosshair back, and Boba treating the job as a start to his career as a bounty hunter
Oh my gosh,I'd kill for that. Fett vs The Bad Batch maybe?
THIS!!!
If it ended up as Fett vs. the Bad Batch I want Fett to win. He doesn’t have to kill them I don’t want that....I just want to see more of the notorious Boba Fett on screen like in The Mandalorian.
Don’t know why not a lot of people notice but the medical droid that helped echo after the cafe fight is actually the very same droid that helped Fives to find out about Order 66
Sadly he’s fried now
@@davidvasquez08 I believe he was just stunned
I realized that when I watched the episode! When he finds out about Fives... Damn. Poor Fives..
@@thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978 I don’t know he’ll know who Fives is, remember he was getting reprogrammed
@@taejo4975 I don’t know, considering smoke was coming out of him after he was hit twice with the stun blaster
It instantly reminded of the Kaminoan Rebellion from Battlefront 2.
Which battlefront 2 game.....u best be talking about battlefront 2 2005
@@jarrodedson5441 obviously dummy
Imagine if we get a Clone Wars'/Bad Batch version of the 501st Journal detailing the events of the Clone rebellion on Kamino just like Battlefront II 2005.
Same man.
@@jarrodedson5441 battlefront 2 from 2005 obviously
Battlefront 11.
(Counting all games either canceled, or aren't even remembered from the pandemic studio era).
I think it's because of Omega. She has a similar headpiece as Nala Se. Maybe she imitates her because she's a mother figure or Nala Se sees her as a daughter.
Republic: Gimme clones.
Kaminoans: Pay this ridiculous amount of credits.
Republic: Fiiiine.
Empire: Gimme clones.
Kaminoans: Pay this ridiculous amount of credits.
Empire: No.
Kaminoans: *Clone Rebellion*
Empire: So you have chosen death.
Force Unleashed Flashbacks INTENSIFY
But wasn't Tarkin's job on Kamino to see if they even *needed* clones?
@@andrewmeyer3599 Who knows I get impression that Palpatine wants to get rid off of clones either way, because they are simple unreliable. He knows that what happened to jedi could happened to him in the future, so he wants to replace clone army with weaker one reguler army who does not try to kill him only with pushing the button.
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 Clones are obsolete they age rapidly so they live as long as cats and dogs do then their ass gets old.
@@Yes_Fantasy_419 Thats not problem as longa as you can replace them which Kamino can. And they have one big advantage, unlike their replacement they werent bested by fucking tedy-bears.
Their biggest disandvatage is that they can be made to turn on their masters very easily thats why it is better to have weaker yet less dangerous stormtroopers.
She let the Bad Batch escape because she didn't want Omega to die. Omega is the key to everything in this series
She's basically the Grogu of this show. Probably Force-sensitive too.
IKR its so obvious because after her report to the minister she walked away side-looking at him to ensure that he didn't realize she lied
Wonder of Tarkin would regret his choice to cut costs over quality troopers later on considering how ineffective the human recruits were
I doubt it. Crewing all the ISD's alone would probably cost about the same as building said ISD's. Sure it would have been possible but if his choice was clone military or Death Star funding... which do you think he'd go for.
This isn't Thrawn who wanted the best of the best. This is the man that thought intimidation was better than quality, so why bother with quality troops?
If they raised birthed humans like the first order but trained them like clones it would’ve been cheaper as it would have cut the cost of creating them but they would’ve been just as effective
@@bobbynewman7089 Clones grow to adulthood much faster (at least twice the rate), so they are cheaper from birth to battlefield. Their physical quality is also uniform, which means training and equipping can be uniform.
Couldn't have asked for a more perfect start to this series
the first thing I noticed was her Body language when she was talking about how they escaped with omega and she looked genuinely relieved
Bro I grew up with that show for real made me sad when it was done
They're just up to something with Omega, and don't want the Empire to find out about her. The Bad Batch was just the best way to hide her.
Hunter: "Let's get to work."
"So Palpatine has a new army. I have no doubt he'll find our cloning operations a threat one day very soon, and seek to destroy our capabilities. But he's a fool if he believes we handed over all of the combat-trained Fett clones to him."
―Lama Su, Kaminoan prime minister, on discovering Palpatine's new Imperial Army.
(Legends)
so, will the Kaminoans be wiped off the face of the galaxy by the empire in the same way as the Geonosians?
PS: did anyone else notice that Taun We (the female kaminoan who received Obi Wan in episode 2) was in the episode after almost 2 decades withour appearing in an audio visual medium?
Where was she?
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl with Lama Su, using a holopad when Tarkin explain that the clones were too expensive for the new imperial army.
@@danielchavez919 Weird how she never showed up between episode 2 and now
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl i don't know.
the few times she was seen was in legends, one in the Republic comic book series, during the first separatist invasion of Kamino.
other in the comics based on the 2003 Clone Wars series and the las time was in one of the "Legacy of the Jedi" books.
in that series, Boba is a 70+ years old man with a cronic illnes because he is a clone, in his search for a cure he found an old Taun We, she was no longer work in the Kaminoan goverment but in a rival cloning company.
they began talking about certain things, including Boba's illnes and she ask if he is going to kill her, the old Fett refuse because she was the closest thing to a mother for him and wouln't dare to harm her.
when Boba was going to leave, he remove any bounty over Taun's head and decided to accept a contract for her, demanding the assasination of a man who fought with the seps in another invasion of Kaminoin the clone wars (if we include the one of the Republic comics and the one in TCW, then Kamino was invaded 3 times during the war), after that they never see each other again.
Geetsly: "Who knew the kaminoans we're really american".
Me an american: "How dare you offend me with something I 100% agree with".
"you just disrespected my people as a whole, but yes."
Doesn’t make any sense but ok
What
@@Tahoe756
If there's one thing Americans businesses hate unanimously hate, it's regulations.
@@J-manli is that why we have some of the most ? Unlike china
Could you imagine we get a version of the Clone Wars' verison of the 501st journal in some extra scene/content which details over the clone rebellion of Kamino.
Geetsly: I believe that there is gonna be a clone rebellion like in legends
Rampart and his venators: *imma about to ruin this man's whole career*
Officially there never was a clone rebellion on Kamino.
Officially the sequel trilogy never existed, unofficially they made 3 lousy fan fic movies
They really do be setting up the Kamino clone rebellion from classic Battlefront, huh?
Me: *Hasn't watched the Bad Batch yet, haven't had time*
Geetsly: "Go watch the Bad Batch before watching this video. Consider that an order, trooper."
Me: "Good soldiers follow orders."
I wish so badly they would animate revenge of the sith like they did with the clone wars S7 and the bad batch. It's not just animation anymore, It's art
Yo. I love the way bad batch looks and is colored and textured.
Tarkin: We are planning to terminate your contract because clones are no longer useful to us.
The Kaminoans: This is outrageous! It's unfair!
Jokes aside, really seems like the Bad Batch are going to be a Star Wars version of The A-Team.
Kaminoans Angry dumps all Tarkin favorite tea down the nearest harbor
I heard rumors of an Execute order against the Republic if they misuse the Clones that the kaminoans created I'm not for sure but maybe that could be a way that the kaminoans might start the Rebellion if it ever comes
It occurs to me that would be the reason Palapatine would not Kamino-bred clones. He could never know whether there was another order hidden within the inhibitor chip that would serve Kamino's purpose if he were ever at odds with them.
@@kirkdarling4120 of course but it'd be nice to see the Rebellion just look at it starting to build up to that the prime minister is getting very suspicious of the Empire and starting to really distrust them and starting to bread their own bad batch clone just almost like in the comics this could be the Camino of but can me and Rebellion
I love how you call it a childhood favorite and I was over 30 when the Clone Wars first started. Haha. But seriously, I love that the Star Wars i grew up with in the late 70's/80's is still as strong as ever!!!
She was helping Omega, not the Bad batch. I think she has a reason for keeping her alive. Whether it’s an attachment or a motive. She knew that if omega didn’t escape with the bad batch that Tarkin would have her killed.
That shows how ruthless Tarkin was as he wouldn’t have thought twice about executing a child
@@bobbynewman7089 him and Vader both 😂
The special clones must be why 99 was allowed to live. We questioned why someone so clearly defective wasn't decommissioned, but if the mutations were something they were testing, then...
I don't actually think it was the Kaminoan's decision to save the Bad Batch. I think it was Nala Se decision and she did it only to save Omega
The thing about Kamino (in Legends at least) is it’s heavily used for the Starkiller clones in TFU 2. Now, while that is just Legends, it still heavily implies that there are Kaminoans who are heavy Imperial sympathizers and will be around long into the future to aid the Empire’s and Vader’s efforts.
Did anyone notice when tarkin was leaving their barracks after giving them their mission that one of the clones didn’t have a blaster but was still acting like he was holding one?
Here's a theory for you what if crosshare becomes the new marksman for delta squad after sev went mia and they are tasked to hunt down the bad batch.
I really hope we end up with a Clone Rebellion in this series. It'd be a great Season Finale or Season Premire
I could be wrong but I think Omega might be a clone of Jedi master Sifo Dyas They could’ve got some of his DNA from when he Crashed, maybe so no one would recognize the clone they altered the DNA so that instead of a He the Clone would come out as a she. I know it’s out there but it’s kinda sort plausible in the Star Wars universe 🌌
I think that Nala Se let them escape because she does genuinely care for Omega considering that afterwards she told the Prime Minister they escaped, not that she helped them escape.
Crosshair's most notable clone advancement is his deadly precision, but what many don't know, is that his interspecies genetic advancement are far more fascinating; he is able to grow toothpicks.
Oh I thought I was the only one questioning about Crosshair’s toothpicks. Seriously, where the hell does he get them? Imagine just carrying an entire pouch of them on your belt😆
They seem really emotional in this and caring of not only the clones, but the little girl. They seemed very caring in a weird way.
One reason I think she let them escape is because of omega. Clearly, she must have a bond to her or Omega is her own personal Creation like ARZAIC said in the comments. Omega somehow knew what cross-hair was thinking I think she probably has force abilities or just has some of the bad batches abilites. Omega would have been In danger if she did not let them (Bad batch and omega) escape so she let the bad batch take her so she could be safe.
Edit: I changed up how I wrote it to be more Readable. @ARZIAC Got what I was trying to say, but yeah that's what I think actually happened. I am wrong on the force part so don't try to argue about that one.
Well Omega was her assistant, probably her own project and almost daughter like seemingly.
Most likely helped because as you said, Nala Se didn't want her to get hurt and most likely knew she would have been in danger should Omega had stayed. So she knew the Bad Batch would protect her.
I agree
Oh, come on, Crosshair's emotional state wasn't THAT hard to gague.
Omega telling Crosshair she knew what he was going to do wasn't force abilities. It was either her knowing he has the chip implanted when the others did not, or like any reasonable person, was perceptive about how he was acting compared to the other members of the bad batch after watching and listening to his actions and speech. Just because she said she knew what he was going to do and asked him to not do it doesn't mean she has force powers. Fun theory, but I don't think that will be the case since this series isn't focusing on Jedi or the force in any way. The more reasonable theory is she is the last mutated clone who alone has a mixture of abilities that the Bad Batch individually possess. However, it could also be that the Empire forces the Kaminoans to produce more mutated clones to go after the Bad Batch in hopes of detaining or eliminating them when Tarkin realizes regs can't get the job done. I think a Kaminoan and clone rebellion is what we're going to see near the end of the series, as the series ends with a last ditch effort to have the Bad Batch kill Tarkin, with the help of Saw Gerrera and free or help their clone brothers fight the Empire, dying in the process. No force powers, only mutant powers.
Omega could always be the Kaminoans attempt at replicating the powers of a Jedi. Though that may be a stretch compared to the more probable analysis explained by Tech in the episode.
Tech explained that Omega has *heightened awareness,* and that means she can pick up on things faster than most. Like how she was able to detect Crosshair before he entered the hangar, or Fire a DC-15A Carbine at Crosshairs rifle despite having no experience with weapons before hand. Or as mentioned earlier how she was aware of what Crosshair was experiencing with the inhibitor chip and how he was trying to fight it.
I also like the idea of Nala Se looking to Omega as a daughter, even though you don’t really count on the Kaminoans being the family types, but perhaps Omega is a special case in this regard.
Imagining just a year ago I was so sad thinking it was the end. Now we're back in business babyyyy
Hunter will not follow this order also I remember what you said about if echo returned to kamino and nothing happened to him
Let's be honest we all wanted the Kamino Uprising to happen. And it looks like it is coming. Not sure if the Kaminoian's are going to win but we want the fight.
Hell yeah
we know they lose. There's no way they'd have trained a human otherwise.
Yea sad to say we know they lose if this is the direction they go with it...BUT who wouldn’t want to see Vader dispatch Boba Fett and the 501st down to kamino and the Bad Batch just waiting (almost like the first battle of kamino except the antagonists win)
THE AMERIC....Kaminoan... REVOLUTIONNNNN
"Who know that the Kaminoans were 'American' this whole time."
Well, that threw me off and snickering, as for the statement, being an American, the Kaminoans are more enterprising, deep down very violent, compared to all the other species in Star Wars, even the Hutt's, it dose match up.
This show could take a really dark turn
How to beat the bad batch: try to split them up, since they are “specialized” with specific traits makes them great as a team but bad as individuals, so split up the bad batch and exploit their weaknesses and take em out one at a time
We getting season 2, next year. So, let’s hope we’re getting Kamino Uprising!
The only reason they let them escape was because omaga .She looked at omega as a daughter maybe or just liked omega
Or she doesn't want crosshair to kill her
My theory is that Omega is an experimental clone with force sensitivity that the Kaminos tried to make. When she fired the gun without knowing how, I think that was a hint that she can use the force.
"I guess I just got lucky"
Luck is ALWAYS the force in Star Wars.
"-There is no such thing, as luck."
My head canon is that luck and the Force both exist but work in conjunction with each other. Call it the “will of the Force” and how cosmic Force interacts with living Force.
This is where the fun begins
Nala Sa was the one that allowed Order 66 to happen by drugging Fives. This feels weird.
I kinda hope we do see that and some of the Rebel clones escape and meet up with the bad batch. The Bad Batch Battalion. Pretty nice alliteration.
Kinda makes me think of Daleytactics series Ricos Brigade
@@ntfoperative9432 exactly!
I think when they altered crosshairs chip, they might have secretly put a program into him to, on command, turn against the empire for the kalmenoes. The first of many for their rebellion.
Remember in certain clone wars episodes, rex stated that some clones regard kalmeno as their personal home world, that an attack on it ...as rex would say "they better have a big blaster"
Kaminoans really wishing they put a backdoor in those inhibitor chips now
You know now I think think about it,what would've happen if the stormtroopers that were in the clone rebellion were humans instead of clones? Because of I recall the imperial troops that fought the anti-troopers were actually clones
Imperial Anti-Rebellion Efforts in a nutshell: “switch to live fire”
It doesn't make little sense, they're protecting their product
What’s wild and I’m surprised no one has discussed this, the kaminoans created the clones gave them inhibitor chips they can have failsafe to turn the clones on the empire the empire are nothing without the clone army Im sure they can alter the chips like they did to cross hair why hasn’t anyone discussed this
Omega is way less annoying than I thought she’d be.
0:22 With all due respect sir, I am going to directly disobey that order!
I don't think the Kaminoans helped the bad batch escape as part of a plot as the prime minister showed surprise over the them getting away with Omega, while Nala Se never told him that she helped them escape. I think Nala Se cares for Omega because she see's her student as an individual/daughter/person rather than how other Kaminoans sees clones as property/tools.
Three things I would like to see in this series. The Sacking of Naboo, the Last Orah of the Clankers on Mustafar, and the failed Kaminoan Rebellion. Or really, just anything related to the Rise of The Empire Era on the Battlefront 2 campaign
Anyone else notice how aggressive and irritable the clones were on kamino? It just seemed they all had a short temper all the sudden, even after order 66 was over.
chips
I guess the chips remained active since they were triggered. It's sad though that even all their personalities changed once they where corrupted by the order.
I wasn’t really surprised especially with how the empire has already treated them. The key will be finding out what the key is with omega. They don’t trust the empire or Tarkin. They are hedging their bets. That’s what it most likely comes down to.
I thought the exact same thing. Would make a lot of sense if it did happen too
this is always fascinating, if money wasnt a real issue to the empire, it could've recruited from the galaxy and kept making clones as a more reserve elite army but production on them would be greatly reduced, and all clones that were veterans of the clone wars could,ve all be given to vader as a sort of personally army for the sith, i know this is highly unrealistic but just fun to imagine
I thought the clone rebellion in the OG battlefront 2 was the one of the best levels in that game. I so hope it comes to cannon.
>Kaminoan interests at risk
>Disable inhibitor chips
>Tarkin now has no army
>Tarkin gets some soliders
>Tarkin sends soldiers to Kamino for their first test as conscription soldiers
>Whoever wins is who Tarkin chooses
EZ
He says "of course rebellion against the empire would have been an uphill battle because they would not have the use of their existing clones"twice
I think 🤔 the bad batch were saved so if they were a clone rebellion the bad batch could lead them plus as well support greatly because the bad batch can take on a entire army that’s how deadly they are makes sense
I hope all episodes are this long
Doubt it but would be epic
this was just an intro
The rest I guess will be 30min-1hour but hopefully I’m wrong
The rest will all be 30 minutes. The episode lengths were reported weeks ago, and it was known the first episode would be 72 minutes
Fawk
You made a couple of references to recruited troops, suggesting Tarkin and his allies were were lobbying for a volunteer military. Tarkin specifically used the term conscripts...meaning a draft or compulsory military service.
“Consider that a order trooper”
Me a commando droid:roger roger
Bad batch:hold up
If Filoni’s as knowledgeable as he is when it comes to Star Wars, then he knows full well that when the Kaminoans helped the bad batch escape that Fans were going to associate that act with the Battlefront 2 mission/Legends story involving The Clone Rebellion.
If this story is brought into the timeline at an earlier date I’ve got no problem with it. They could even incorporate Vader into it to compensate for Boba Fett being too young at the time.
Filoni knows ALL.
@@geetslys 😂 indeed there is no denying that, well until he meets his match. Only other Fan that comes close is Sam Witwer.
@@geetslys *cough* except Kanan comic *cough*
Boba isn’t necessarily too young. He has his armor by now.
@@dustyrc we really don’t know if he’s in the Armor yet, since it has been established those Unfinished scenes such as the showdown between Cad Bane and Boba are not canon. Until they are finished that is.
Seriously tho DOES he just keep a pack of toothpicks on him at all times ?
lol I thought the same
Probably why they don’t do clones since the kaminoions are dead and then they use stormtroopers
Kaminoans is gonna hire a bounty hunter to get Omega back, that why Hunter took a speeder to get her back in the trailer. My guesses for the second episode.
my first thought after the episode was the clone rebellion against the empire.. i PRAY we see that. I cant imagine how beautiful it would look.
Tarkin on paying for clones: nah fam
Tarkin on paying for 2 giant space balls with lasers: LESSSGOOOO
The episode was great. It's always great to see Kanan (I know he's called Caleb at the time,but he's Kanan Jarrus damnit)
It also explains why he's so distrustful to Rex acting nice. To him, he nearly got killed by a Clone pretending to be nice while another took a shot at him
Also I think this is the first time we saw taun we in clone wars style
I didn't even think of the Kaminoan rebellion, the possibility of seeing that in The Bad Batch would be incredible.
Clone rebellion on Kamino, that is what ive been waiting for! Thats one storyline that i used to love from the early empire days. The clone wars was my favorite era since i saw attack of the clones in theaters. I was always so sad the material for that era was lacking and felt scattered/unfocused, the clone wars show was awesome and ive longed to see the clones live through the imperial transition to their own discontinuing.
Yes. It was VERY interesting that Nala Se let Omega and Force 99 go. Either she loved Omega; or wanted to keep Omega safe from the Empire for use in the future.
Had low expectations for the show going in, but I am pretty impressed with the first episode.
0:22 “guess I’m refusing that one too!”
I think Kanan will reappear and it’ll explain how he knew about the inhibitor chips that the clones told him about.
The Kaminoans must be who Netflix hires to speak to people who call in to cancel their subscription; they’re clearly masters of keeping people in their contracts.
I just noticed something with Omega. Could it be that she is actually force sensetive.
Hear me out on this one. She can sense what people can feal around her very acuratly. She also knows that Wrecker is searching his plushy without even knowing it belongs to him. Furthermore she hits crosshairs blaster without training.
So what do you think is Omega a force sensetive clone?
Killed me when he said “who knew kaminoans where Americans “ 😂😂