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Hey PleasantKenobi how do you feel about Scarecrows? They are my first and favorite tribe because of how bad they were before we got all these tribal commander decks printing staples like kindred discovery. I know all the power of the deck is Reaper King, but destroying something as strong as a rhystic study by playing a 3 drop 1/1 is so much fun to me. They also have some of the best flavor text in the game as a tribe combined. Yes I only play true scarecrows, changelings are for cowards.
I’m a Wizard tribal player and I don’t think we deserve to be let off the hook here. We like to bring solitaire spellslinger combos to casual tables and call it a “silly tribal deck”.
I play Inalla wizard tribal because I want to make you play all your creatures seven times. If it bounces and says wizard, it's in. Also, you ever do 24 damage to a table with a Ghitu Journymage etb? Good times.
Ummn actually.... **pushes glasses up from tip of my nose** Elfball refers to old decks that played a bunch of mana dork elves to cast a giant Fireball. Not a metaphor for how an elves deck gets out of control once it starts rolling, like a ball. Don't you feel dumb now.
as someone who have like 6 edh decks full of dragons i can confirm, they indeed compensate my insecurities, its easy to forget about bad things in life when you're beating people into pulp with a bunch of big fliers
Me: Wow this video is so funny! I wonder what he will say about dragons! Vince: Your family doesn’t actually love you. Me: *holding back tears* Haha it’s so true.
You totally nailed it on zombies for me. Its purely sexual for me. Last week I taped a copy of noxious ghoul to the back of my wife's head. I'm so glad to know I'm not alone on this.
It's funny to me that Elf Ball gets used here to reference elves forming a ball when the original use of the term was for the elf deck that swarmed out a bunch of fast Mana and then cast fireball for 20 targeting face, hence "elf ball."
Myr are the greatest tribe in magic. How could you not love the guys who way of attacking is to gather up into a giant ball and roll over the battlefield.
Ah Merfolk. I played magic a bit before llorowyn, but my blue white mill / lifegain merfolk tribal deck that I rocked during Friday night magic cemented me in to the hobby. Good times.
On the topic of zombies I really like the idea of decayed for the reason that it makes it really easy to swarm. They are not formitable or strong, just power in numbers.
@@Hakazeyea, it'd be nice if zombies and the like regenerated if killed, but don't regenerate if you hit them with extra damage and focus on production
When hivelord came out I got the "fat pack" (like 10 booster packs a bunch of basic lands and a die all in a box forget what it's actually called) and pulled 5 hivelords from that one box. I was basically given a sign that I needed to play tribal, been building my slivers since then and trying others since then, currently doing "housepet" tribal, dogs and cats, rin and seri got my attention and I'm gonna see how it goes
Thank you for that Vampire: the Masquerade quote, I immediately shared that with my play group! "An amalgamation of Superhero, Wizard, and Monster" indeed!
Favorite human deck I ever build was innistrad pure humans. No eldrazi corrupted, no werewolves…fun idea to see how well the few good people of innistrad could stand up against the rest of the worlds. Fun stuff.
As someone who played tribal Vampires in Innistrad-RtR Standard at a decently high level... Yeah, you're right, it was probably a sex thing, but since big daddy Markov didn't exist, I had to settle for big mommy Voldaren.
There’s still a fair amount of cards for that kind of horde style. As Vince said, army of the damned exists, but Diregraf colossus stands out as a ridiculous token generator. Cryptbreaker doesn’t quite churn out tokens, but it does incentivize you having a lot of them. And Ghoulcaller Gisa will make stupid amounts of them. Vast majority of the tribe’s focus is definitely graveyard shenanigans though.
@@charliemallonee2792 There are a fair number of token generators headlined by the truest of "zombie horde" cards in Endless Ranks of the Dead, but that's not exactly what I am getting at. A lot of tribes can mass produce tokens, but the thing that makes elves unique is that "elves beget elves". Meaning that with their low cmc and mana/token abilities, one Llanowar Elf starts a chain that quickly becomes many elves, which is very zombie apocalypse like. Zombies tend to be a much slower, more grindy tribe, which is still great, but I just feel the former fits better. I am not advocating for zombies to suddenly start producing mana like elves, but I'd prefer more exponential growth cards that snowball like Endless Ranks of the Dead in favor of big mana, explosive cards like Army of the Damned. If you go watch some of the old Commander Vs. Halloween episodes they play against "The Zombie Horde" deck. That is the play style I would prefer zombies emulate.
Just wait till Secret Lair: Cars comes out where not only you will be able to play with Lightning McQueen with unique abilities, but it will also have added Car as a creature type to the game.
Quark: You're overlooking something. Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better. Could we see a roast video about what is a race and what is an occupation when it comes to tribes? Ex: Wizard, Cleric, Soldier, Coward, those are jobs/careers/occupations compared to Merfolk, Elf, Cat, Vedalken...
Angels have the best artwork in all of magic and is actually quite a janky tribe full of traps you learn to ignore. If its for noobs, it's a beautiful teacher.
I'm part of the fish community, and I'd say we're masochists: merfolk decks are underwhelming, and since the down of time we wait for relevant new merfolks to show up, but Wizards clearly doesn't give a shit.
Yeahhhhppp I always play decks ideas that suck and try to make them work. Wizards just keeps giving us medium merfolks ...maybe they know and it's their way of saying "you like that huh huh *cracks whip*"
At least you have several hundred cards to pick from... I love Myr and there are only like 40 of those and, for the most part, they haven't printed a new one in a decade
As someone who assembled a vehicles deck yesterday, I'm offended that we can't pretend the card says "car" while I yell KACHOW whenever it's questioned.
As a player who has been playing cats ever since they became somewhat of a thing in Magic and who has started a similar project with dogs recently, I see no way of getting offended by this video. This just made me happy. Just you wait, dogs will be big in magic! Decent potential in cards like the Pack Leader and Selfless Savior. I'd say if we get one more dog lord, we begin seeing a lot more dog tribal in casual play.
HOLY F**K do I feel called out! I literally just finished brewing and ordering a Rick, Steadfast Leader deck. I thought, "I bet he'll roast a bunch of _other_ tribes, but surely not...." 😂💀
Ghoulcaller Gisa, Thornbite Staff, Coat of Arms. You now have a horde of Zombies that no single Plane can contain. They are Legion. They are One. And they die to a simple Wrath. Have fun.
my favorite tribes to play, self roasting. myr: you like mana dorks but cant commit to elves spider: fuck flying, i hate flying, kill flying pest: minion spamming and life gain nephilim: ah yes lets abuse morophon's mechanics for annoying powerful monsters
When you asked if zombies were a sex thing, I recoiled violently. Bruh, I just like Noosegraf mob and Diregraf Collosus, don't come for my hordes like this plz.
I think MaRo has an article somewhere that says they were supposed to come back in kaladesh but they didn't want to power up the tribe so they changed all of them to other creature types. Sadge
@@jerryturgin6583 that's a shame cuz I would settle for suboptimal cards. I would take a 4 mana Banisher Priest with the rebel creature type. It would be over costed but still be an improvement.
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Hey PleasantKenobi how do you feel about Scarecrows? They are my first and favorite tribe because of how bad they were before we got all these tribal commander decks printing staples like kindred discovery. I know all the power of the deck is Reaper King, but destroying something as strong as a rhystic study by playing a 3 drop 1/1 is so much fun to me. They also have some of the best flavor text in the game as a tribe combined. Yes I only play true scarecrows, changelings are for cowards.
VEHICLE SUBTYPES R A THING
@@Supsup516 it's an artifact subtype, not a creature subtype
Hay PK you have to change the cars not a tribe we got the autobots coming hahhahaaa
Vince: Are Merfolk a sex thing? Like do people get off on it?
The Professor: Plays Sygg, River Guide *bites lip
I mean... Have you seen Kiora?
nearly coughed my berocca all over my gaming PC. I would have gotten citrus steam in my eyes.
In my country sygg is really close to "Sykkii" it means pulsate :D
................ Me: throws up reading that........
@@faerie7dragon Or listen to how Nikachu says Svyelun everytime he casts her
I’m a Wizard tribal player and I don’t think we deserve to be let off the hook here. We like to bring solitaire spellslinger combos to casual tables and call it a “silly tribal deck”.
Listen, my Azami deck is fun. It has big sea creatures in it.
Don't look at that mind over matter. It's only there as insurance...
Once these take off in popularity Wizards will get their moment in the Vince-light.
Next time just @ me. I even got a white bordered azami for casual pods. wizards die to board wipes. if they reaolve.;)
Azami is boring but I play Aesi which is infinitely more boring so I cannot hate
I play Inalla wizard tribal because I want to make you play all your creatures seven times. If it bounces and says wizard, it's in. Also, you ever do 24 damage to a table with a Ghitu Journymage etb? Good times.
Ummn actually....
**pushes glasses up from tip of my nose**
Elfball refers to old decks that played a bunch of mana dork elves to cast a giant Fireball. Not a metaphor for how an elves deck gets out of control once it starts rolling, like a ball.
Don't you feel dumb now.
Ahkchually*
*snort*
*pushes up glasses*
The artwork on Abomination of Llanowar says otherwise. Check. Mate.
So my green X damage spells still makes it an elf all got it
as someone who have like 6 edh decks full of dragons i can confirm, they indeed compensate my insecurities, its easy to forget about bad things in life when you're beating people into pulp with a bunch of big fliers
Word. My first deck was a Palladia-Mors deck.
That's me except my giant flyers are bigger because they're slivers. Sliver Queen is the closest thing I'm ever gonna get to pussy
Me: Wow this video is so funny! I wonder what he will say about dragons!
Vince: Your family doesn’t actually love you.
Me: *holding back tears* Haha it’s so true.
It’s okay… the cards live you, I’m almost sure of it.
"Dragons: the midlife crisis of magic cards" is a top 10 PK line ever.
You totally nailed it on zombies for me. Its purely sexual for me. Last week I taped a copy of noxious ghoul to the back of my wife's head. I'm so glad to know I'm not alone on this.
As someone who only plays Tribal decks in Pioneer, I find this greatly amusing.
Nothing said about spirits? I get it, they're clearly the superior tribe, unroastable 😎
Fuck, he got me with Eldrazi 😩
You can't roast what is already dead
@@moritzk4795 cremation
@@dragonheart5349 holy shit you fucking killed him
He didn’t roast either of my two favorite tribes: elementals and goblins. If there’s more of this id wanna see those mentioned!
RIP Pirates not even crossing Vince's radar.
It's funny to me that Elf Ball gets used here to reference elves forming a ball when the original use of the term was for the elf deck that swarmed out a bunch of fast Mana and then cast fireball for 20 targeting face, hence "elf ball."
I will take the exclusion of Treefolks as proof that they are indeed the best tribe.
They are a great tribe. Doran was one of my first decks.
Also no mention of Elementals, and as a Horde of Notions player, I approve.
People are surprised when they realise my mono green treefolk tribal modern deck does pretty well
"Competitive EDH is just Legacy for cowards" got me so bad! Excellent video, as always.
Jokes on you I play both 😎
As a Sliver, Zombie, and Elf player, being hit back to back by those 3 was hilarious
Can you comfirm the ‘its a sex thing’ thing?
I'm surprised there wasn't even more specific Prof-prodding in the Merfolk section
Vince: *insults my favorite cards*
Me: 🤣 it's so true! do another!
Vince: *insults american biscuits*
Me: 🤨 [reaching for my pitchfork…]
You forgot about the best tribe zubera I guess you just couldn't comprehend their sheer magnitude of strength
Elf ball actually refers to an old deck that used Elves to mana rap into a huge fireball.
Vince: "Cats"
Me: *wipes tears on my cats fur*
Also me: *Goes to start a horse deck*
Myr are the greatest tribe in magic. How could you not love the guys who way of attacking is to gather up into a giant ball and roll over the battlefield.
Ah Merfolk. I played magic a bit before llorowyn, but my blue white mill / lifegain merfolk tribal deck that I rocked during Friday night magic cemented me in to the hobby. Good times.
Ever since his preview of the Goblins Secret Lair, Vince is contractually obligated to be nice to Gobbos.
On the topic of zombies I really like the idea of decayed for the reason that it makes it really easy to swarm. They are not formitable or strong, just power in numbers.
I've allways thought it was weird that zombie tribal wasn't about swarming or reanimation. Most of the lords just buff your dudes.
@@Hakazeyea, it'd be nice if zombies and the like regenerated if killed, but don't regenerate if you hit them with extra damage and focus on production
PK: humans are the most common tribe on every plane
Lorwyn: bruh
What does PK and Wizards have in common?
They both forgot about Lorwyn
Which is why Lorwyn is the best plane.
There are 5 humans on lorwyn
Jace
Chandra
Garruk
Gideon
Lilliana
@@God-ch8lq They weren’t even part of the story in lorwyn iirc, They were supposed to be printed in the future sight
@@HomeCookinMTG Gideon wasn't even in the set. He didn't even exist until the romance novel. I think there's a joke we're missing.
When hivelord came out I got the "fat pack" (like 10 booster packs a bunch of basic lands and a die all in a box forget what it's actually called) and pulled 5 hivelords from that one box. I was basically given a sign that I needed to play tribal, been building my slivers since then and trying others since then, currently doing "housepet" tribal, dogs and cats, rin and seri got my attention and I'm gonna see how it goes
If you included BEARS, one player in my playgroup would've had all his decks mentioned in this one video :D
Ayula, my queeeen, lmao
Thank you for that Vampire: the Masquerade quote, I immediately shared that with my play group! "An amalgamation of Superhero, Wizard, and Monster" indeed!
That Ricky Martin card opening video was fire. I think PK should open all kinds of random ass boxes of cards.
Seeing Vince willfully ignore Elementals did something to me.....
He's playing hard to get. Wants you coming back for more.
Me with my morophon birds deck:
"He didn't mention birds because that's a cool tribe....right?"
🥲
Don't worry, he didn't mention my baby Myr either...
Don’t worry he didn’t mention my beast tribe. That god they got support in onslaught. Really bad support…..
Well, if you look at win rate of Richard with birds on Commander Clash, it's a fantastic tribe. All hail Fledgling Osprey.
No one plays bird tribal competitively out of fear
Storm Crow
As someone whose first and only commander deck right now is a dragon tribal Beatdown karrthus to be specific... I can confirm.
I'm a filthy casual Angel tribe player, and I love it - but I missed the counter part: Demons
i miss the best tribe in magic, Goblins
Same bro
As a man with two tribal decks, Slivers and Eldrazi, this video brings a tear to my eye.
Vince said zombies don't have a horde feeling to them while elves amass.
I'm just gonna write "elf army" on all my amass tokens now
He didn’t mention [my favorite tribe]. Clearly it is the strongest best tribe confirmed [save some bread for the Kamigawa spirits]
You didn’t mention Minotaurs. Let it be known, my Minotaur deck strikes fear into the hearts of my playgroup.
You leave my Slivers alone, Discount Saffron Olive!
Favorite human deck I ever build was innistrad pure humans. No eldrazi corrupted, no werewolves…fun idea to see how well the few good people of innistrad could stand up against the rest of the worlds. Fun stuff.
As someone who played tribal Vampires in Innistrad-RtR Standard at a decently high level... Yeah, you're right, it was probably a sex thing, but since big daddy Markov didn't exist, I had to settle for big mommy Voldaren.
He said that car tribal would be a thing and now Rat Car is tier 1 in pioneer. The prophet is amongus
Merfolk feels like a gut punch to the professor
People like a tribe
"Is it a sex thing?"
Goblins, who had attractive females printed in the Forgotten Realms set: Maybe
Love this stuff. Your roasts are hilarious. Keep up the great work.
YES! I have been saying that about the zombie tribe for years. The horde/snowball play style that elves have should've also been applied to zombies.
There’s still a fair amount of cards for that kind of horde style. As Vince said, army of the damned exists, but Diregraf colossus stands out as a ridiculous token generator. Cryptbreaker doesn’t quite churn out tokens, but it does incentivize you having a lot of them. And Ghoulcaller Gisa will make stupid amounts of them. Vast majority of the tribe’s focus is definitely graveyard shenanigans though.
@@charliemallonee2792 There are a fair number of token generators headlined by the truest of "zombie horde" cards in Endless Ranks of the Dead, but that's not exactly what I am getting at. A lot of tribes can mass produce tokens, but the thing that makes elves unique is that "elves beget elves". Meaning that with their low cmc and mana/token abilities, one Llanowar Elf starts a chain that quickly becomes many elves, which is very zombie apocalypse like. Zombies tend to be a much slower, more grindy tribe, which is still great, but I just feel the former fits better. I am not advocating for zombies to suddenly start producing mana like elves, but I'd prefer more exponential growth cards that snowball like Endless Ranks of the Dead in favor of big mana, explosive cards like Army of the Damned. If you go watch some of the old Commander Vs. Halloween episodes they play against "The Zombie Horde" deck. That is the play style I would prefer zombies emulate.
Also the sex thing. Something about them just gets things going for me.
Just wait till Secret Lair: Cars comes out where not only you will be able to play with Lightning McQueen with unique abilities, but it will also have added Car as a creature type to the game.
Quark: You're overlooking something. Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better.
Could we see a roast video about what is a race and what is an occupation when it comes to tribes?
Ex: Wizard, Cleric, Soldier, Coward, those are jobs/careers/occupations compared to Merfolk, Elf, Cat, Vedalken...
I love that episode of DS9.
American biscuits are like sawdust pressed together with some sort of wheat bonding agent lmao they so bad
That is the most accurate depiction of zombie tribal that I’ve ever heard. Especially the sex part
I need more of this, he didnt roast my favorite tribe yet.
#soon
Well that Zombie discussion was unnervingly vivid.
Observe and quake in fear of the best tribal Wurms. All quiver at the thought of facing Wurms.
Angels have the best artwork in all of magic and is actually quite a janky tribe full of traps you learn to ignore. If its for noobs, it's a beautiful teacher.
Talks about how dogs will defend you in your home. Shows two Dachshunds. Wait this actually checks out...
How you described American Biscuits had me rolling. 🤣
I'm part of the fish community, and I'd say we're masochists: merfolk decks are underwhelming, and since the down of time we wait for relevant new merfolks to show up, but Wizards clearly doesn't give a shit.
Yeahhhhppp I always play decks ideas that suck and try to make them work.
Wizards just keeps giving us medium merfolks ...maybe they know and it's their way of saying "you like that huh huh *cracks whip*"
Y'all got Tide Shaper and Sveylun of Sea and Sky in MH2, obviously they have taken notice.
At least you have several hundred cards to pick from... I love Myr and there are only like 40 of those and, for the most part, they haven't printed a new one in a decade
@@CaptainNemo5814 I like Myr quite a bit. I wish that we could get more.
The only thing I can take from this is that Goblins is the one tribe to rule them all.
*Slowly backs into the shadows with his Anowon rogue tribal deck*
As someone who assembled a vehicles deck yesterday, I'm offended that we can't pretend the card says "car" while I yell KACHOW whenever it's questioned.
i doubt vince will even have heard of all but one of my favorite tribes dragons. but absolutely here for the list
"Basically I want a card where Matt Berry tells me to fuck off in the flavour text"
Don't we all?
I think the lack of a Knights tribe in this video is enough of a roast in itself
As a player who has been playing cats ever since they became somewhat of a thing in Magic and who has started a similar project with dogs recently, I see no way of getting offended by this video. This just made me happy. Just you wait, dogs will be big in magic! Decent potential in cards like the Pack Leader and Selfless Savior. I'd say if we get one more dog lord, we begin seeing a lot more dog tribal in casual play.
"Before we toast, I gotta make some bread..."
Man, you are a smooth operator, aren't you?
Birds, wizards, soldiers, knights, beasts, gods, giants, shapeshifters, kithkin, crabs, and homarids all need to be roasted.
It's funny because Zombies have relevant removal and boardwipes and STILL get shit on by elves.
Me, the casual player with a vampire tribal deck and a pseudo angel tribal deck:
"No, no. he's got a point."
I would say there are no humans on Lorwyn but thats where Changelings come from.
"Elves are a tribe, but Cars are not,"
*Looks sideways at my Vardrok Vehicle Tribal deck*
Cool, cool cool cool.
Squirrels are the supreme tribe. Chatterfang + Chitterspitter goes hard
werewolves/wolves am i not a joke to you
All the goblin players lurking in the cave off to the side.
As soon as I saw you were doing this, I knew I had to tune in to see you roast my sliver deck.
As someone with a Tribe Tribal deck, I take this as a personal attack.
I've meant to build this for a while lol
4:37 British guy roasting any other nation's cuisine is crazy 💀💀💀
HOLY F**K do I feel called out! I literally just finished brewing and ordering a Rick, Steadfast Leader deck. I thought, "I bet he'll roast a bunch of _other_ tribes, but surely not...." 😂💀
I think the spell that actually gives zombies a horde feel is Endless Ranks of the Dead
Is Party a Tribe? Asking for a Friend.
PS: I live for those cEDH roasts. Respect Papa Kenobi.
Bears, Squirrels, Soldiers, Goblins, Fairies, Giants, Beasts, Wolves, Werewolves, Sphinxes, Hydras, Spirits, Demons, Rats, Knights, Berserkers, Barbarians, Dwarves, Clerics, Wizards
Dude the dragons bit was spot on. Personally treefolk is the only tribe I truly enjoy.
Wood Elemental tribal 🙉
Demons and Ninjas. You already ripped apart 2/4 of my tribal commander Decks, finish me off
Now I want a Matt Berry voice over for Sorin. That planeswalka would have more chaRIZma than Jon Hamm.
I came here to hear Elves getting wrecked but the best complaint you had was elves are everything zombies should be lol
Now i want an human bartender that transforms into a vampire in crimson vow
I guess bears are just perfect so they didn’t need roasting.
Ghoulcaller Gisa, Thornbite Staff, Coat of Arms.
You now have a horde of Zombies that no single Plane can contain.
They are Legion.
They are One.
And they die to a simple Wrath. Have fun.
You've clearly never had biscuits and gravy, probably the greatest American food ever.
You guys have fun with all your contemporary tribes, I'm gonna be over here with my mono red phoenix tribal deck
Is the take home from this that Vince has no I'll word about Goblins?
As someone who's favorite deck is white-black vampires... yeah...
my favorite tribes to play, self roasting.
myr: you like mana dorks but cant commit to elves
spider: fuck flying, i hate flying, kill flying
pest: minion spamming and life gain
nephilim: ah yes lets abuse morophon's mechanics for annoying powerful monsters
When you asked if zombies were a sex thing, I recoiled violently. Bruh, I just like Noosegraf mob and Diregraf Collosus, don't come for my hordes like this plz.
Zombies: it's a power thing. We also play necromancers all the time. We're basic like that.
I'm sad we didn't get a goblin roast this time though.
Goblins
Wizards
Saprolings
Knights
Rogues
Giants
Minotaurs
Ninjas
Changelings
Fairies
Gods
Pirates
Elementals
Looking forward to part 2 and 3
Was hoping to hear your thoughts on changelings, but this was a solid video. Love the content keep it up.
Me as a goblin and squirrels player
*bites lip
Kenobi
Doesn't roast both
Me
*Give it to me
He didn't mention rebels. That means they're the best tribe and WotC should start printing more of them.
I think MaRo has an article somewhere that says they were supposed to come back in kaladesh but they didn't want to power up the tribe so they changed all of them to other creature types. Sadge
@@jerryturgin6583 that's a shame cuz I would settle for suboptimal cards. I would take a 4 mana Banisher Priest with the rebel creature type. It would be over costed but still be an improvement.
@@Release_the_Bees yeah it's unfortunate, there are like 8 cards LITERALLY with rebel in the name in the set that just aren't rebels. It's crazy
"Cars are not a tribe"
And then came the transformers.