I live in a small farm town in Ontario and there are people sleeping in cars at our Foodland parking lot...never thought I'd see the day, but I never thought I'd see $1600 for a 2br apartment in a farm town either.
@@agodelianshock9422 these same apartments were once $850 until someone bought them, through in an island kitchen and some laminate flooring. 1600 is way too much for a country town with nothing to offer.
This greed can’t continue with living accommodation. The government provincial, federal , has to make changes to laws , builders incentives , zoning for housing , city bylaws and standard of living . ,
Canada is in rapid decline. Housing costs are a major problem. It's disgraceful what decades of terrible government policy have done to destroy the country.
they tried that. had the accounts frozen and the news all complained about the horn noise. and then charged them as terrorists! I lived in Ottawa: no one lives in Ottawa, the power people all live in Gatineau or Montreal.
As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept.
@@Mike-or3ry If they can't set up tents in parks & they're not good enough for housing I can only assume you're suggesting we round them up and dig large pits? What's your solution?
Vancouver , BC - my dog and I slept outside from July 2012 to November 2013 - I worked underground - drilling and blasting from 1968 to 2010 I lost my job as a tunnel inspector when we had a rock burst underground and the law mandates work to stop and call in the WCB for an investigation - they ordered a cleanup and fired me so nobody who know ? This was when I was 59 years old - they would not give me Welfare and my dog and I lived on CPP of $510 a month until I turned 65 and got the Old Age Pension I was lucky as I bought an old 1996 Chevy Tahoe to sleep in - my toque came off when it was -10C and my hair froze to the pillow - Lucy my dog would sleep right beside my and I would put the sleeping bag over us to keep us warm - Meanwhile , the politicians want to bring another 1 Million a year from the 3rd world - House them , Feed them and $4000 a month spending money for a family for the first 2 years = HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH OF THIS - CANADA FIRST UNITED
Wow, are you ever brainwashed. Do you honestly think $4,000/month is enough to get by on? Your issue isn't with immigrants, who are the ones paying for the CPP that you're receiving because they're the ones working and putting money into the system, otherwise it would collapse. We're simply not reproducing fast enough to replace the retiring/dying workforce. Your issue is with the inability of the government to properly address the lack of government resources and to adjust the cost of living to provide a living amount of assistance for the elderly who are retired.
59 yrs old a tunnel inspector and you were fired over a WCB incident...... Which rendered you homeless?? Something doesn't add up here, I doubt blasting inspectors are making minimum wage even back then...... Why would you need welfare if your living off your CPP? You never bought a house or owned a vehical as a blasting inspector? Cut the bullshit man......
Ahh written like a true victim - blame someone else, even a political party, for your misfortune of having worked 42 years without planning for that day when you would not be working or able to work. Well done!
I lost my sympathy the moment a friend was chased with knife when passing a tented community, another was verbally harassed in front of me for not "Giving enough" and my own husband was mugged, and a boss was assaulted.
You lost sympathy for that many people when you learned some people have mental health issues and two or three of them gave you some grief? Your sympathy doesnt run too deep, I guess.
Its just sad. But everyone is scared. Mental illness and drug addiction are even more dangerous. People dont know that feeling until they they’re at the receiving end . People who dont live near windmills dont get it. People who dont live near the boarder wont understand. And people who dont live next to those encampments dont understand Back in the days, homeless people picked up trash for money, were chill and were awesome. These homeless people are way different.
I don’t think she’d get the reaction she would want or expect if the average person showed up to see these camps get dismantled. I think most people would agree these aren’t safe and need to be removed
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@@CanadaC116 Of course it doesn't justify any acts that stem from anger. I'm just suggesting that under similar circumstances we might do the same; justified or not.
As someone who works and lives right in the downtown core, and sees the way these people behave, my sympathy is limited. There are a ton of services available. But they don’t want to fight their opioid addiction and seek help
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@@loveobviously Exactly. So sick of pussyfooting around the topic and everyone who is against getting rid of these encampments certainly don’t have to live near them.
.? Cleaning out homeless..... 😢 proud Canadian moment right here. On the other hand we are importing homeless from other countries ...what a joke this country has become .
These people are making their own decisions. Housing is available but drugs/alcohol are not allowed on premises. This is a deal breaker for most in the streets so they choose the streets instead. Blame individuals, not the people enforcing bylaws or cleaning the streets for the greater safety of the public.
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I would love Nadine and her friends to take these persons to live in their houses, as she says they need help and compasion, she should do it instead of opposing to the police and falsely accusing them. C'mon Nadine! Open the doors of your house!
The number of homeless is probably only a fraction of a percent of the adult population. However, a whole industry has been created around it with very well paid individuals at the top. Poverty is "good" for the economy; it keeps the currency flowing, which by definition of this corrupt system is called success.
These people in this camp are not falling on hard times...they are chronicly addicted and chronicly unproductive. If the two people sharing that tent both get a min wage job they could live in a basic apartment. The problem is they don't want to do that, at least more than just taking drugs full time.
How naive you sound. They likely received crap on-reserve education, as the chiefs holidayed and gambled and drank away the $$$ that was meant to provide good education. They likely have chronic physical problems. Maybe mental problems caused by long term addiction. They need long term addiction support, as well. Where exactly will that come from? If you think the few hospital resources dedicated to such (especially in Calgary) do any good, you are delusional. All the addicted are placed on the same wards, where they become buddies and facilitate each others addiction during outdoor breaks … and after release. Check the front of the Rockyview Hospital, as example.
There’s very little support for people who don’t have money to seek it. A lot of these people have mental and physical health concerns so how many employers want to hire them for min wage jobs? If it were that easy there wouldn’t be so many people in these tents. It truly isn’t. From a privileged cozy place it’s easy to judge and say oh everyone can just go work and figure it out but there’s a lot of factors that make it very difficult for someone with fewer advantages
Dude they are unable to pay rent because they spend their money on dope or alcohol.No offence but you obviously no nothing of addiction or chronic addiction.The other problem is if both are working who is going to protect their belongings while at work???Like really??I do not know whether toor.
@@MerrySnow-o6n In reality, it is the elected government who must step in and provide 'reasonable' humanitarian support to facilitate an operating standard sufficient to continue life's basic needs; food, shelter, security and a perpetual form of long term community opportunity for self support. If you (not speciffically 'you') voted during the current election for officials in government, then you accept the burden extent personally and you should consider your own independent financial means to supply these services, or badger your elected officials to do so unitl the basics described are achieved.
People are leaving Canada because it has become so nasty to live in. Seriously . There is no beautification in Canada anymore . It isn’t strange to go out and find garbage and needles . We have become a trashy society
Peoples who are leaving Canada because they have money to leave. You think these homeless & addicts can just buy tickets and get on the plane and leave? The government would have love that they leave Canada. All these homeless & Addicts get welfare money every month, free food, free healthcares, and if they want.... free housing too. They are homeless because they choose to be homeless, just ask any social worker.
I live a block away from there. I'm not a big fan of the encampments. But what's the point of tearing it down and they just rebuild it 3 days later. It's like a never ending cycle. The city tears down the encampments by Hope mission and other spots. So they all rebuilt in the river valley and set that place on fire. Then the city lets them rebuild back to Hope mission area. The chinatown I remember when i was a boy is dead. How are chinese businesses supposed to survive when theres crazy everywhere? 😡
A relocation plan should be put in place before eviction i'm sure there are vacant buildings that could be used with reasonable access to things like treatment and councelling to get back on track..people need somewhere to go
@@bjeffrey1863problem is, in those buildings they would be prohibited from partaking of the street juice and have to behave according to tenancy rules. Most would just rather live on the street than have to abide by anyone's rules. They can use drugs openly without fear of repercussions and dont get stopped from screaming maniacally at themselves or from assaulting passers by. They just get ignored.
Would be nice to have an opposing view to this instead of the touchy feely types who think these people are completely innocent. Look at the footage, that isn't a safe place to be.
Thank you! I’m sure these “touchy feely” people go home to their safe neighborhoods. Meanwhile over here paying a small fortune in property tax and condo fees to be afraid to leave my building past 7 pm. (I live in the ice district in yeg)
They were actually, but had to ramp things up because more and more camps got set up. A block away from my place there was an area that became an encampment and they cleared it and fenced it off, just to have people set up right outside the fence. Many of them blocking the sidewalks.
@@gordd1447she can’t do her job. If she was successful at her job she’d be unemployed. She needs the homeless problem to get worse so she has a career.
Wow man real smart. Instead of trusting the government to do their job let's throw a bunch of homeless people at someone with potentially inadequate training. Real smart stuff. Thinker of our generation
I dont think that pile of likely stolen bike frames constitutes as "belongings".... most everything in there is stolen and someone was a victim of robbery. Its hard to be sympathetic when this sort of activity is happening in your city or worse, to you.
Of all the people I’ve heard talking about this at work the last few days, not one of them has volunteered to take anyone into their homes. I do feel for them, but during the past few years I would never take my children downtown, people have mental health episodes on the sidewalk, very aggressive panhandlers and people using the washroom on the streets. Tax payers have a right to not be terrified walking down the street.
It's about the government not making things affordable for people to live, not people taking people in their homes. The government is pinching so much that anything could cause someone to lose everything
made a community of......nadine thats not a made community. your such an advocate to keep people suffering on the street. thats whats nasty brutal and gross. leaving them like this on the streets is the problem. we understand full well nadine. we fund them as is. maybe time for you to sleep down there with their wonderful community you describe. your choice to keep people living like this and claim its compassion just shows you should be the last person speaking for these people stuck on streets drugs. thats the real tragedy. keeping them supported and drugged on the sidewalk is not help or compassion. ask an addict. get the truth
Yes. And this hasn’t happened accidentally. The government is FULLY aware that limiting new build construction, shutting down mental institutions, decriminalizing certain behaviour, providing tax payer funded injection sites and allowing 400,000+ new people in to country every year is going to negatively impact our housing crisis, our health care crisis, our addiction and drug use crisis, our school space crisis, our government funded “welfare” program crisis…..etc. Yet, they’re doing it all anyways. Why would they deliberately be trying to destroy our society, make life more affordable for everyone, strain the systems that so many depend on, run historical never seen before enormous deficits, devalue our own currency by taking deliberate actions to cause rapid inflation, take the dream of home ownership from younger generations, make it easier and easier for people to get government assisted suicide, send so much of our paid tax money overseas for wars and to fund other “global pacts” and initiatives set out by the World Economic Forum? It’s almost like they want to force a collapse, so they can “Build Back Better” and “reimagine a new system” once they force capitalism to collapse (and they are trying). Prepping the people for a lower standard of living (can’t own what you want, can’t eat what you want, can’t drive what you want, can’t use the fuel that you want…….trying to change the concept of private property and ownership, trying to push insect consumption and reduce/eliminate meat/dairy consumption, trying to force people to go to electric vehicles, trying to “phase” out coal/oil/natural gas, want to ban gas stoves and certain appliances……). They won’t be happy until control everything and have eliminated our choices, and they just tell us what we’re allowed to do and how we’re allowed to do it. They aren’t joking when they say “you’ll own nothing”, but they are lying when there add on “and you’ll be happy”.
Same problem here in Hamilton! Our police tares down homeless people and pushes them to other locations, just to move again, it's absolutely so scary how close alot of citizens are to facing this exact thing, I make 4k a month and I'm a paycheck from being in their shoes
I'm sorry dude....what? 4000$ a month and your barely surviving? Tell me you have three kids in thier teens and a stay at home wife like myself...... Because if not WTF are you spending your money on.....
@@calenphillips2631if he lives in Toronto $4000 is a mortgage now on a 1.5 million town house 3 bedroom! If he has 1 or 2 children its poverty in Toronto
Homeless people need to force them to take them to jail where they will be fed, clothed and sheltered. When the justice system comes to a screeching halt than they will start to care.
Where would they store all the stuff they have even if they did have a shelter space? The problem is much deeper than having shelter space. The "structures" and "homes" are dangerous places that make it impossible for my kids to safely get to school. People should go and watch so they can see for themselves how these people behave and how much patience and humility most of the officers have when dealing w them.
Yup. And then this lady suggests that taxpayers build them houses instead of shelters? Why do they deserve free housing? Why should our tax dollars pay for that?
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people.
I bet there in No Immigrants in that encampment just Canadians .. Remember that . Same as here , we have Lots of Canadian Homeless but No Homeless Immigrants. Funny that
No "encampment" anywhere should ever be allowed to get to the stage where it's a serious risk. My friend started a no alcohol encampment in Vancouver and was shut down: the poverty pimps and people in power didn't want innovation.
Sad and concerning how city has made a decision of displacing home less People in cold weather. City should have provided alternate place for them to live.
Canada has been dealing with this and has seen this since 1997. This primarily comes from foreign investors willing to pay top dollar for your house. Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, and Ottawa all look very different.
Other cities should follow Edmonton. There are job opportunities, shelter, and other forms of support everywhere but many of them won't use it because of issues like drug addiction.
@@jessica19141 Hopefully they, a) accept the help which is already there, then b) make a concerted effort to stop being a burden to their friends, family, and society. Your compassion is killing them; what they need is accountability.
@@camberwellcarrot420 Our compassion? What compassion we're leaving them on the streets in the dead of winter. We're creating public spaces specifically designed to keep homeless people out of them. What services are "already there?"
@@jessica19141you going to take someone in then? Walk down by Roger’s place and the first guy you see screaming at a tree, invite him to come live with you…….. didn’t think so, someone else’s problem, but it makes you feel better to lecture.
@@nickacorn this NIMBY argument never fails to make me laugh bc NO ONE IS SAYING THIS. We want adequate housing that supports their needs. Not parasitic landlords who only care about $$ in their pockets. We need supportive housing that promotes harm reduction and provides a safe place for these individuals to heal. People cannot just overcome their addictions on their own. If you knew anything about the devasting affects that addiction plays on people mental health, then you would know that it isn't as easy as telling these people to "get over it" or "overcome their addiction". Having a stable support system is the first step to recovery. What you promote for is the reason why we are seeing an increase in homeless populations across the country. "Oh well its not my problem" is a lie you tell yourself. If it wasn't a problem, then you wouldn't be crying about it. Look beyond your own selfishness and realize that these are also human beings with lives - they deserve some respect. The sanctity of life is more important than ignorance.
This is the result of allowing the homeless to comply take over downtown during covid. Edmonton downtown and the entire transit system was comply overrun by the homeless and allowed to do so for so long they are now completely entrenched.
This comes down to taking care of the homeless properly... and an economy that should be providing more jobs and opportunities for all people. Bullying the less fortunate is no answer, you will only make desperate people even angrier, and more likely to commit crimes.
@verar5844 the answer is businesses pay a living wage as well as their fair share of taxes. Politicians need to serve the people and not the corporations.
@@verar5844well..for 1 instead of all that money we sent to Ukraine and everywhere else, I'm pretty sure the city could have built a low income apartment building and filled it with bachelor units or whatever else and rented them out at price thats in line with what they get on assistance and for 2 update the social assistance program to something that's actually viable and not limited to such a short time frame as long as your participating in programs to help facilitate changing your situation. The "homeless camps" would be gone and could provide a centralized location to help ppl get clean and transition back into society. I'm not saying its the only answer or the best one but with all this talk of housing crisis incorporating these types of temporary residences into the plan sounds like a good idea to me.
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A lot made the choice to stay on drugs and booze and remain homeless. It's adorable how bad you feel. How many are you taking in? Personally I'm not taking any in. Because they made this choice.
Homelessness is a complicated issue. But the needs of rest of the people need to be addressed as well. An encampment is a very nice way of talking about too many homeless (“100s”) in one place, a pileup of garbage and worse (urine, faeces, drug leftovers). And crime. In my community, the RCMP told a friend of mine they would not go into a homeless “encampment” in pursuit of a stolen bicycle. Cmon! It’s not just a bunch of “victims”.
I park near those encampments when I go to the ice district. I give the homeless chocolates or softdrinks when I walk by which they are so grateful for. Not once have I been threatened and not once has my vehicle been broken into or vandalized. The needle use is kind of scary though.
I'm sure chocolate and soft drinks is exactly what they need lol. I used to work down the road from an encampment. We would find literal shits in between cars. Also some guy was creaming his pants at the traffic lights with his pants around his ankles and hands stuffed in his underwear. Started rolling on the ground and almost went into the road a few times. They are a nuisance. @@googlesucks662
Let me understand, some people are “advocating” for someone else to live outdoors in makeshift shacks instead of being transferred to proper shelter facilities made available by the city authorities. Hypocrisy at its worst.
Let me understand this as well.....are you offering up your own facility? What's your address I'll start send Ubers full of homeless your way. Thank you kind person.
@hildaharkin writes: "As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept."
@@earlgreystoke3324 I grew up on the streets a homeless teen, straight out of the foster care system. That was over 25 years ago before the opioid epidemic , but I can tell you that i refused "indoor living accommodations" as well....... going from the streets back into a "institutional setting" was no step up. I can't imagine its gotten any better since the 90's
So you get 3 months social assistance in Alberta before you get cut off completley..which inevitably ends in homelessness if you cant find a steady job by that time..Before you start saying I'd do this or they should do that, have any of you even tried doing the things your asking?getting a job, finding a place, getting identification etc with no prior identification, phone, bank account, fixed address, library card, bus pass or money in pocket? I suggest trying that first, your answer might change. When your homeless its damn near impossible to recover without a permanent address in the province. Pushing ppl off to the side or out of public view..all due to a faulty social assistance program isnt solving anything.
Most shelters allow you to use them as a home address. There's also a bunch of employment programs that can assist. Although 3 months is very short, I've been laid off longer than 3 months and couldn't find a job in that time.
@@toedrag-releaseyes just like most. 3 months is no where near enough time to find a job in this day and age. How can you even get a job without a phone to accept an interview or money to pay for it? Let alone who's gonna hire someone with poor hygiene looking and smelling like theyve been tenting under a bridge? It makes no sense to me..but sweeping the issue under the rug shouldnt be the anwser.
@@bullyarena3923sad but public policy in regards to the homeless is "out of sight, out of mind." They're only a problem when they stand out. Otherwise they're easy to ignore, both by the general public and politicians
I work full time and I can barley get by living on my own with the rise of price in everything.. Canada is going downhill at such a rapid rate, it affects my decision to have kids in the future..
By "all their possessions" are we talking about the garbage that these people have dragged to a spot on a city sidewalk? Are we talking about the public health and safety risks that come with heaps of trash? Should the city be held responsible for garbage as though it had some sort of value just because a homeless person dragged it somewhere?
So the courts said:"If you give them 48 hours notice and provide places for them, you can dismantle the camp". The police heard: "Dismantle the camp". I wonder if anyone would like to inform the court that the police are not respecting their judgement.
The truth is many homeless are not nice people: doing drugs, stealing, making unsafe fires & worse; however, there is surely an innocent homeless guy/gal who isn't doing drugs, isn't stealing, isn't making unsafe fires, & is actually trying to lower crime with the threat of being labeled a rat & the police are evicting them too. There's no +ve feedback, just profiling.
Those positive ones gave up their welfare cheques in exchange for government subsidized homes. The ones you see on the street are there because they want ALL of their cash to go towards their drug habbit. Either that, or they don't want to be under government rules. Like a schizophrenic that doesn't want to be on their meds. There's certain things you can't do if you live in a real home. Like sneak up and club someone for their money.
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send over seas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
48 hours to move when you have no job and zero responsibilities is very doable. And tell that 300 pounder to donate some of her meals instead of blaming the public.
How can it possibly be acceptable to have people living in homeless encampments? I don't recall homelessness like this years ago. Lefty tolerance for drug, alcohol addiction and mental illness encourages this but I do not see how we as a society can tolerate this.
This is not true for a lot of people. Shelters are not well funded and can’t support all the people in need, rehab isn’t easy to access, there’s actually very little support for people. And many of them have mental health issues that create and continue their situations. It’s not as simple as they just don’t want to. Not at all
Many many people that are homeless have slipped through the cracks of Alberta Health Services. Many have mental health conditions, stop taking their meds. Many others have substance issues. These encampments are so dangerous for the homeless. They are abused by their own people they live with. They need to dissect this problem and figure it out. We have brilliant minds in Canada, I’m hoping it’s figured out soon. Also I’d like to just say, I feel sorry for the innocent property owners and businesses and their employees and patrons as well, it’s a volatile scenario.
Canada is simply not as prosperous as it once was, due to neoliberalism and decades of dystopian "progressive" policies. You will have to get used to cities having shanty towns or favelas. Canada is not a 1st world country.
These people never brought all the garbage with them educate yourself. people were dropping their garbage of.i watched a homeless man doing a interview that lived under a bridge. He was asked about all the garbage. Washers old dryers oldjunked cars you name it it was there and he said people drive in there through the night and dump the junk. And garbage bags of trash. It was a very good interview. This man was and electrician by trade lost his job and family andcarand house. so do not paint everyone with the same brush. No homeless people would carry old appliances and car bodies under a bridge.people needs to come up with a solution to get these homeless people help for a better life.
Post covid the situation in downtown is very distressing especially for the university students and LRT commuters. Streets are not for living. The government should find a better place for the people living in these “ shelters” and rehab them. Our tax dollars should go towards welfare of the less fortunate and not for funding wars across the globe
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drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and blaming the effects of the problem and not the 70-year government policy of drug prohibition that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send overseas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
if their shelters arent safe and its just made of pickup and go materials why not just build them tiny, livable shacks where they can at the very least sleep we need a LOT more social workers to go and help rehabilitate the homeless
@@lynnnelson6689 You know theres a whole profession whose sole job is to rehabilitate drug addicts, i mean you might feel like youre better than them but you surely arent smarter than them.
We can do both, and must do both. But premiers need to lead. They have more direct control over municipal governments, zoning, and housing regulations. The failure is at all levels of government, not just federal. Sure, call out Trudeau, but call out Premiers, mayors, and councilors. It is a tragic lack of political leadership for decades that has caused this.
@yohanchoi595 Not hard at all. Do you think it is in our interest to let Russia run all over Ukraine? I would rather pay the Ukrainians so they fight them there, rather than us having to fight them in our Arctic territory in 10 or 20 years (people forget we have a huge border with Russia.) Canada first, but let's play the long game. Supporting Ukraine is definitely Canada First.
Also addiction is harder then you think there's lots of people who are addicts and live normal lives but are addicted to drugs and alcohol without there friends and family knowing so it's more to that then you think Also are country needs to really address are rehabilitation centers and fix them if we want change are whole way of fixing the crisis is really outdated and needs lots of work done to better are community or its only going to get worse I recommend everyone watching wear to invade next it's a great documentary that talks about other countries that have changed dramatically in other ways and we can learn lots of benifits from them but still choose to fall behind
@@B.A.S.S_B.U.N.N.Yyou dont have to tell me about how hard addiction is and like you said many work and function in society. Its when you allow it to completely destroy everything in your life that it becomes a excuse. Everyone has the freedom to make their own choices we need to stop supporting people who continually make bad choices. Everyone looks for something or someone else to blame and thats why we live in a backwards shithole society. No accountability for anything.
If you think my city is the only city with homeless, your really narrow minded. Go to cow town, bc, red dear, nova scotia.itd all over Don't be such a blind person.
mommyisssuesasmr8040 Not all homeless are dangerous I agree there are some also they are not all drug addicts either .Many are homeless that are immigrants that our so called Priminister brought into our country in every province they are living now I live in a small town and we have 57 homeless and there is a family that live in there car because they can't afford to pay first,last and damage deposit for a two bedroom apartment costing 18 hundred dollars a month making it 54 hundred to move into making minimum wage along with having to pay 150 to get lights hooked up and if the place has oil it's more money. Trudeau made promises that he hasn't kept and continues to bring in more with housing issues in every province . It's no wonder people are living on the streets ,parks and where ever they can find a dry place . It's sad that Canada has become this thanks to this Liberal goverment and there corruption.
Since the Covid lock downs in 2020 there are a lot more homeless on the streets of Edmonton. There are have been people camping, out of sight, in the River valley for decades but now there are tents appearing in new places. For example, for the first time there are tents clearly visible in the meagre strip of bushes along Calgary trail north bound and on the slopes of the Groat road.
I do not understand why Edmonton is not housing these "individuals" in the empty previous remand center (they will have a hard time burning that down ) or the empty coliseum. Shelter for them. Peace for the community. WHY do we have to put up with this????
@hildaharkin writes: "As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept."
@@earlgreystoke3324 They can spend the money on drugs & alcohol instead? It's abuse of taxpayers' money. They should be forced to go to proper shelters at least in winter. Sorry but not sorry.
And what will those empty buildings look like in a month or two? Who cleans them? Who provides security for the staff working there? Are volunteers/staff insured? Who is responsible if a worker is r*ped, beaten, robbed, injected by a dirty needle or killed in an altercation in a huge building of homeless mentally ill people high on drugs?!?
The same thing that happens in East Hastings Vancouver. There’s plenty of vacancies however, nobody wants to follow their rules ie mandatory urine drug tests, no alcohol, curfew etc.
I used to feel the same way as a lot of this comment section bc it’s easy to judge from a place of privilege. I grew up in upper middle class white suburbia Sherwood Park and never saw a homeless person in my youth. It wasn’t until I started working for an agency that assisted under privileged people that I realized it’s just not as easy as “get off the drugs and get a job”. These agencies are horribly under funded so can’t help all the people that need it, there is a ton of racism and/or various trauma that leads to addiction, depression, undiagnosed as well as untreated mental health issues. Many homeless don’t have education or any skills. Educated people WITH skills find getting jobs difficult so how do you think someone who has none of that can just go get a job? Who will hire them? Moreover, w the cost of living, who can support themselves on $15/hr anyway? It’s easy to be judgy when you have options but most of these people have very few and the govt, nor general society, doesn’t care enough to truly offer any to them which is why this problem persists.
It's not the rest of society's responsibility to sacrifice for the individual decision of others. Canada has free education from K-12 and offers loans and grants (literally free money) for post secondary education. Healthcare is free, and social support programs are numerous. If they don't want to sacrifice to make up for their past mistakes why should the rest of Canada?
@@weouthere6902 hmmm there is a line call it arbitrary; consider thinking of the struggle to stay above the water (line) having fallen :-: all those 'available' you suggested aren't so easily accessed a n d willing to wager you never spent a week under th bridge in the cold whilst waiting an appointment health care free ? try waiting?? a year to get kidney stone smashed consider your recent 2018 ne subs no followers hmmm little compassion, understanding reality !! e'h OuT?
so stop giving free drugs and tents. if you want drugs and tents you need to do your 4 hour shift of community service at least. i mean start anywhere....just saying you didnt see homelessness cause you were isolated and white is kind of pathetic. maybe someone should have opened your eyes earlier. dont be in shock now. this has been happening forever.
I grew up poor and learned what a job and rent was, just like everyone else has to, no privilege in condoneing drug addiction, open drug use, crime rates increasing, rapes, overdoses, murders etc. And these encampments are just breeding grounds for it.
I'm guessing your epiphany started with school indoctrination rewiring your brain with every neural pathway heading straight to the victimisation room. None of this is the fault of anyone except the individuals who have made a series of choices to be homeless.
If the goal is to put people in tiny little homes, then yes, otherwise it really is a bandaid solution and not something that should ever become a permanent fixture of any society.
Again these addicts do as they please with no repercussions. Anywhere they camp they just totally destroy the area...when do business owners get taken care of i have absolutely no empathy for these addicts ...they have absolutely no respect for the neighborhoods they set up camps..i would never donate to help .
The City knew this was coming. But did nothing to stop it. It's sad that these encampments are the only options. The old jail is still vacant. There are commercial buildings vacant. There is plenty of space, but our fearless leader Sohi can't see the camps 10 blocks away from City Hall? Can't find the funding? Especially will the millions saved this year on snow removal. Even out LRT washrooms have become basically safe injection sites with Hiregood manning them. I've seen up to 6 people employed to "Guard" an LRT platform and washroom from people who need shelter. Do the math. The people who run the show are morons. Completely.
why put them in vacant buildings? they'll just wreck them. Why don't the families of the homeless help them? likely because the families are sick and tired of dealing with them.
@@davemack6384 Families either dont exist, are too screwed up, or cannot deal with them. Either way, if they are not taken care of we will all suffer the effects of their misfortune. Desparate people do desparate things, and most likely not to each other. Working people will pay one way or another.
let me get this straight, welfare rates have been stagnant for decades because nobody wants to pay for increases, but you'll happily jail the homeless for $60k a year?
It’s unbelievable that we can’t do better for the homeless than forcing them into tents… and then back out into the cold. Self-righteousness by those who are still lucky enough not to be taken down by mental health issues does nothing to move us closer to a solution. Take the time to listen to a homeless person, and you might understand how they got to where they are, and why they desperately hold on to what we “upstanding citizens” consider garbage. How many individual items does an average household possess? Compare that to the few belongings in a homeless person’s shopping cart!
You are on point and thank you for your insightful and empathetic comment. Solutions are found by discovering the root cause not by creating solutions to address the comfort level of those better off at the expense and possible survival of others. Taking away what little resources and options the homeless have puts them in a worse situation that will probably escalate the problem. Desperate people are forced to desperate measures, add in resentment and we'll end up in a society that will repeat the consequences that resulted in the French revolution or the Czars of Russia. Each of us should participate in helping those less privileged then ourselves instead of passing judgement from our comfortable positions or worse taking advantage of the less privileged for personal gain.
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drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the 70-year government policy of drug prohibition that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send overseas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
We can not knock on ears of the government, but still hope people who think of migrating to Canada think twice or thousands times before heading to the land of cold-hearted, with fragile employment stability.
I don’t think I’ve ever looked at a ‘homeless’ encampment and said , ‘yeah, that’s ok . I’m glad those homeless people are now living in a park I take my kids to enjoy’.
Let's shed light on the critical issue of hoarding among the homeless population, recognizing it as a mental health challenge that demands compassion. Cities face the complex task of addressing both the immediate needs of those experiencing homelessness and the management of clutter and junk resulting from hoarding behavior. Empathy should guide our approach, understanding that these individuals are grappling with mental health conditions. Balancing the necessity to clear public spaces with sensitivity is crucial. Collaborative efforts between communities, social services, and local governments can pave the way for solutions that prioritize both mental health support and urban cleanliness. Let's advocate for comprehensive strategies that address the root causes while maintaining dignity and understanding.
That's not an encampment, it's a landfill with people on the pile. They will not be able to remain anywhere with that level of incompetence. Disruption of these "rats nests " is one way to help keep these people alive longer. Amazing to see how Edmonton can't install proper camp setups given the availability of industrial camps and open parks in Edmonton.
This is inhumane to Canadians. This was a poor decision on our government. We can give millions to Ukraine but zero for homeless Canadians. Our politicians are creating this problem. As Canadians, we need to take a firm stance against this. 2000 rent is not affordable housing.This is disgusting in Canada and very inhumane to Canadians.
Actually there are tonnes of supports available to them. They won't accept housing (because they have to turn over their gov't cheque and be clean). They're addicted and they don't want help. It's not an issue of resources.
I’m so glad the police won this case. The language used by Nadine, is used to make the situation look worse and take away responsibility from the people themselves. If you got 48 hours notice, there is no reason to scramble unless you were negligent with the information. If you can’t include your family possessions with you, you must have packed the first things you valued. These encampments are not because of a housing crisis. These are people who are either addicted to drugs or have mental health issues in some form. There are places and groups all over Edmonton who are designated to helping people get off the streets for free. Not to mention shelters, public housing, and addictions treatment. This is not population that can make good decisions in their own best interest and they are not entitled to cause destruction and havoc to themselves and the rest of Edmonton because they don’t want to follow rules or feel like victims. Why aren’t you homeless?? Why are there homeless all over the world? Think a bit deeper people. Most people have had bad childhoods, or some sort of traumatic incident, or a job loss, or health issue. What separates people from being homeless or not? The city is protecting all of our best interests. They can’t force people to stay in treatment or rehabilitation, but they can make being homeless less appealing and there’s nothing wrong with that when there are multiple resources in place to support people through hard times if they choose it.
Helping the homeless and less fortunate starts with economic steps to protect everyday citizens from ending up in those scenarios. When you cut all the funding to public outreach programs, drug rehab clinics, welfare, food banks, and replace jobs with ai, and automation... it tends to impact things int he economy. What these people need is the proper services to get themselves back into a condition society deems employable. You can't just bully, and harass people for being less fortunate... you will alienate them and, anger them. They need compassion, but society as of late is pretty short of humanity.... the more we become Auto-matized by technology.
Imagine being homeless for whatever reasons just to have the police steal what little belongings you have and force you to move, Just to be homeless still with less belongings. Especially in a cold climate. That is cruel.
She likely sought out some kind of employment to trade her services for some kind of payment in order to pay for rent and food, maybe even some transportation.
MAKE NO MISTAKE. This is a direct result of 10 years of Just Trudeau ineptitude and failed policies. It is widespread, and needs to be addressed in this way nationwide. Time to clean house...starting in Ottawa.
I'm all for relocation with services at the new destination. But no defined destination means they'll congregate in another random location. This is just moving the problem down the street instead of the cities edge in a controlled encampment with services. In a controlled encampment you can sort out and segregate those with drug and mental issues from those down on their luck but able to work. That workforce can be paid to build their own tiny accommodations in another location conducive to getting back in the game. The plan needs multiple prongs of attack, one size does not fit all.
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send over seas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
As some social workers here have pointed out, there are accommodations for all. They just had to turn over their gov't cheques and they're taken care of. Homelessness is 100% optional in Alberta. It's almost always addiction that causes that "choice". Some people may be close to poverty but not homelessness. You have to work at being homeless in Alberta and the root is always mental health or drug addiction or both.
To the indigenous people in these encampments, please know that many in this country feel immense sorrow about your situation. The federal Trudeau Liberals and the Singh NDP could have build great homes for all of you, but they REFUSED, because they are paying $Billions housing hundreds of thousands of non-working and feint working immigrants and “asylum seekers” from all over the world in expensive hotel rooms throughout Canada: paying for their meals, transportation, entertainment, total health care - at Cdn taxpayer expense - ever though they and their ancestors have no history here, have done SFA for this country.
You’re both absolutely 1000% wrong. Do you actually think that there hasn’t already been billions of dollars provided to the Indigenous? It’s done NOTHING to help. This has very little to do with money when you consider the Indigenous folk. The problem is so much more complicated than that. Sheesh🙄
.....billions pumped into indigenous programs threw out Canadian history....how's that working in 2023 now? No drinking water but we're supplying needles and narcan. You can't use people as voting blocks if you make them solve thier problems ......
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I live in a small farm town in Ontario and there are people sleeping in cars at our Foodland parking lot...never thought I'd see the day, but I never thought I'd see $1600 for a 2br apartment in a farm town either.
Oh, wow, I've actually been thinking of moving to a small town, country area thinking thongs would be cheaper 🙃
@@agodelianshock9422 these same apartments were once $850 until someone bought them, through in an island kitchen and some laminate flooring. 1600 is way too much for a country town with nothing to offer.
You can thank Trudeau for that.
In Toronto 1 bed condo is 2500 if you are lucky
This greed can’t continue with living accommodation. The government provincial, federal , has to make changes to laws , builders incentives , zoning for housing , city bylaws and standard of living . ,
Canada is in rapid decline. Housing costs are a major problem. It's disgraceful what decades of terrible government policy have done to destroy the country.
Which policy or policies would those be?
Yea housing cost is what is holding these people back
Money printer go brrrr
Immigration go brrr
Go to Ukraine then, they have lots of room
All homeless should go to Ottawa and set up home on the Hill
they tried that. had the accounts frozen and the news all complained about the horn noise. and then charged them as terrorists! I lived in Ottawa: no one lives in Ottawa, the power people all live in Gatineau or Montreal.
Best comment yet.
@@HeronPoint2021 the homeless tried that? oh you mean the grifters like the Rat King and the Leech Queen
Trucker convoy.....look what happened there. Goverments don't see it , hear it or are about it. Where they hang out there is silver spoons.
Yes, I hear Mr T has a bunch of big houses
As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept.
What type of accommodation and where do I find info on this?
@@meco4068 please contact the Edmonton Disability Support Program. If you don’t qualify you can contact Hope Mission, Elizabeth House or Jasper House
@@hildaharkin Thank you for the reply. I'm in Ontario and wanted to research the issue.
And when they accept housing how long until they wreck the place.
@@Mike-or3ry If they can't set up tents in parks & they're not good enough for housing I can only assume you're suggesting we round them up and dig large pits? What's your solution?
Vancouver , BC - my dog and I slept outside from July 2012 to November 2013 - I worked underground - drilling
and blasting from 1968 to 2010 I lost my job as a tunnel inspector when we had a rock burst underground and
the law mandates work to stop and call in the WCB for an investigation - they ordered a cleanup and fired me
so nobody who know ? This was when I was 59 years old - they would not give me Welfare and my dog and I
lived on CPP of $510 a month until I turned 65 and got the Old Age Pension I was lucky as I bought an old
1996 Chevy Tahoe to sleep in - my toque came off when it was -10C and my hair froze to the pillow - Lucy my dog
would sleep right beside my and I would put the sleeping bag over us to keep us warm - Meanwhile , the politicians
want to bring another 1 Million a year from the 3rd world - House them , Feed them and $4000 a month spending
money for a family for the first 2 years = HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH OF THIS - CANADA FIRST UNITED
Wow, are you ever brainwashed. Do you honestly think $4,000/month is enough to get by on? Your issue isn't with immigrants, who are the ones paying for the CPP that you're receiving because they're the ones working and putting money into the system, otherwise it would collapse. We're simply not reproducing fast enough to replace the retiring/dying workforce. Your issue is with the inability of the government to properly address the lack of government resources and to adjust the cost of living to provide a living amount of assistance for the elderly who are retired.
59 yrs old a tunnel inspector and you were fired over a WCB incident...... Which rendered you homeless?? Something doesn't add up here, I doubt blasting inspectors are making minimum wage even back then...... Why would you need welfare if your living off your CPP? You never bought a house or owned a vehical as a blasting inspector? Cut the bullshit man......
What are you talking about 4k per month, make up more stories
Ahh written like a true victim - blame someone else, even a political party, for your misfortune of having worked 42 years without planning for that day when you would not be working or able to work. Well done!
Canada is ruined. Time to leave 😢
I lost my sympathy the moment a friend was chased with knife when passing a tented community, another was verbally harassed in front of me for not "Giving enough" and my own husband was mugged, and a boss was assaulted.
You lost sympathy for that many people when you learned some people have mental health issues and two or three of them gave you some grief? Your sympathy doesnt run too deep, I guess.
@Hyperpandas Yup. I used to be empathetic and even volunteered. I learned all I need too. Screw them.
@@sharonrigs7999 They weren't grateful enough to you, eh?
Its just sad. But everyone is scared. Mental illness and drug addiction are even more dangerous. People dont know that feeling until they they’re at the receiving end .
People who dont live near windmills dont get it.
People who dont live near the boarder wont understand. And
people who dont live next to those encampments dont understand
Back in the days, homeless people picked up trash for money, were chill and were awesome. These homeless people are way different.
@Hyperpandas tell me you've never gone near these parts of town without telling me.
I don’t think she’d get the reaction she would want or expect if the average person showed up to see these camps get dismantled. I think most people would agree these aren’t safe and need to be removed
I saw some of it . The people dismantling the camp were wearing PPE from top to bottom. It’s no different than having a house condemned
The public has seen enough, been threatened, and assaulted and are tired. Rehab or Jail or leave.
Are they no also the public? They may not yet be the majority of us, but their numbers grow.
Are the things that separate your circumstances secure?
your compassion. . . SO self-righteous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!god have mercy on you.!!
@@CanadaC116 Of course it doesn't justify any acts that stem from anger. I'm just suggesting that under similar circumstances we might do the same; justified or not.
As someone who works and lives right in the downtown core, and sees the way these people behave, my sympathy is limited. There are a ton of services available. But they don’t want to fight their opioid addiction and seek help
Facts!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 they don’t wanna help themselves and make out once beautiful downtown look like trash and make others feel uncomfortable going downtown.
@@loveobviously Exactly. So sick of pussyfooting around the topic and everyone who is against getting rid of these encampments certainly don’t have to live near them.
This is exactly why I hate homeless drug addicts
Bus them to Nadine's house and see how much she loves them when they're anywhere near her.
@@virvum_cypher right?! Perhaps they can set up their camps on her front lawn.
.? Cleaning out homeless..... 😢 proud Canadian moment right here.
On the other hand we are importing homeless from other countries ...what a joke this country has become .
Blame Trudeau and his voters.
These people are making their own decisions. Housing is available but drugs/alcohol are not allowed on premises. This is a deal breaker for most in the streets so they choose the streets instead. Blame individuals, not the people enforcing bylaws or cleaning the streets for the greater safety of the public.
Life under Justin Trudeau …isn’t it wonderful?
@bob1519 can you tell me what poilievre will do differently?
@man-gi8su
At the moment, we have Justin at the helm.
It's time for a change.
Shameful ! We live in Canada it is hard to believe how fast our country has been destroyed
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Liberalism really messed our country up
Canada is flushing money out to fund wars, and give gifts to other nations.... no money for Canadians only high taxes
Trudeau government..... I hope the legal weed was worth it to everyone who voted for him. Still wondering where all the tax money is going from it tbh
Thanks Turdeau
I would love Nadine and her friends to take these persons to live in their houses, as she says they need help and compasion, she should do it instead of opposing to the police and falsely accusing them. C'mon Nadine! Open the doors of your house!
Why should she have to take them to her house for pointing out the problem?
I have three living in my garage right now. She can say what she wants. Wtf have u done?
@@fredgfysmith6171 I bet your neighbours love you.
@@camberwellcarrot420 why would that bother u?
@@ElenaKomleva Typical liberal "Not in my backyard" mentality. classic.
The number of homeless is probably only a fraction of a percent of the adult population. However, a whole industry has been created around it with very well paid individuals at the top. Poverty is "good" for the economy; it keeps the currency flowing, which by definition of this corrupt system is called success.
The Poverty Industry is very lucrative.
These people in this camp are not falling on hard times...they are chronicly addicted and chronicly unproductive. If the two people sharing that tent both get a min wage job they could live in a basic apartment. The problem is they don't want to do that, at least more than just taking drugs full time.
How naive you sound. They likely received crap on-reserve education, as the chiefs holidayed and gambled and drank away the $$$ that was meant to provide good education. They likely have chronic physical problems. Maybe mental problems caused by long term addiction. They need long term addiction support, as well. Where exactly will that come from? If you think the few hospital resources dedicated to such (especially in Calgary) do any good, you are delusional. All the addicted are placed on the same wards, where they become buddies and facilitate each others addiction during outdoor breaks … and after release. Check the front of the Rockyview Hospital, as example.
People that don't understand addiction and depression are a huge part of the problem.
There’s very little support for people who don’t have money to seek it. A lot of these people have mental and physical health concerns so how many employers want to hire them for min wage jobs? If it were that easy there wouldn’t be so many people in these tents. It truly isn’t. From a privileged cozy place it’s easy to judge and say oh everyone can just go work and figure it out but there’s a lot of factors that make it very difficult for someone with fewer advantages
Dude they are unable to pay rent because they spend their money on dope or alcohol.No offence but you obviously no nothing of addiction or chronic addiction.The other problem is if both are working who is going to protect their belongings while at work???Like really??I do not know whether toor.
@@MerrySnow-o6n In reality, it is the elected government who must step in and provide 'reasonable' humanitarian support to facilitate an operating standard sufficient to continue life's basic needs; food, shelter, security and a perpetual form of long term community opportunity for self support. If you (not speciffically 'you') voted during the current election for officials in government, then you accept the burden extent personally and you should consider your own independent financial means to supply these services, or badger your elected officials to do so unitl the basics described are achieved.
People are leaving Canada because it has become so nasty to live in. Seriously . There is no beautification in Canada anymore . It isn’t strange to go out and find garbage and needles . We have become a trashy society
Bye bye then
El Salvador is safer than Canada now. Shopping for a nice affordable little dream farm down there ❤
and what do you do about it to change it? frigging newb
No beautification in Canada? Might want to contact some of your councillor or local community groups working on that you do not appear to be aware.
Peoples who are leaving Canada because they have money to leave. You think these homeless & addicts can just buy tickets and get on the plane and leave? The government would have love that they leave Canada. All these homeless & Addicts get welfare money every month, free food, free healthcares, and if they want.... free housing too. They are homeless because they choose to be homeless, just ask any social worker.
City bus driver here, no sympathy from me. Most of those "possessions" are stolen property.
I had a homeless guy try sellin me a Blue Tooth yesterday. He obviously just stolen it.
Without income just how else are they supposed to get possessions? Can you even get welfare, as inadequate as it is, without a fixed address?
@@googlesucks662 all you need is a bank account/ phone and sometimes not even that.
how about getting a job? @@googlesucks662
Poverty is the root cause of most evil we see in the world. We should address poverty first
I live a block away from there. I'm not a big fan of the encampments. But what's the point of tearing it down and they just rebuild it 3 days later. It's like a never ending cycle. The city tears down the encampments by Hope mission and other spots. So they all rebuilt in the river valley and set that place on fire. Then the city lets them rebuild back to Hope mission area. The chinatown I remember when i was a boy is dead. How are chinese businesses supposed to survive when theres crazy everywhere? 😡
We use to have prisons and mental asylums for the crazies, now we dont do anything and wonder why
A relocation plan should be put in place before eviction i'm sure there are vacant buildings that could be used with reasonable access to things like treatment and councelling to get back on track..people need somewhere to go
This way the CITY gets to PRETEND they are doing something.
@@bjeffrey1863problem is, in those buildings they would be prohibited from partaking of the street juice and have to behave according to tenancy rules. Most would just rather live on the street than have to abide by anyone's rules. They can use drugs openly without fear of repercussions and dont get stopped from screaming maniacally at themselves or from assaulting passers by. They just get ignored.
Would be nice to have an opposing view to this instead of the touchy feely types who think these people are completely innocent. Look at the footage, that isn't a safe place to be.
Thank you! I’m sure these “touchy feely” people go home to their safe neighborhoods. Meanwhile over here paying a small fortune in property tax and condo fees to be afraid to leave my building past 7 pm. (I live in the ice district in yeg)
It's the CBC. There's never any opinion allowed except that of the extreme left.
So where you want them too go fool ..your too cheap too help.
@@gcs9350 I'd say, to a job, then later to a home that they've rented or purchased themselves.
But we are allowing millions in , and sheltering migrants .... world is upside down , and bigotry has become a way of life in Canada
Let’s be honest though they should have done this in the summer rather than when the winter it’s ridiculous
Which provides a greater incentive to not just set up camp somewhere else and to accept the help on offer, Summer or Winter?
They were actually, but had to ramp things up because more and more camps got set up. A block away from my place there was an area that became an encampment and they cleared it and fenced it off, just to have people set up right outside the fence. Many of them blocking the sidewalks.
Bus them to Nadine's house and see how much she loves them when they're anywhere near her.
100% spot on.
Well if Nadine would do her job
@@gordd1447she can’t do her job. If she was successful at her job she’d be unemployed. She needs the homeless problem to get worse so she has a career.
ridiculous @@HoppingPuddles
Wow man real smart. Instead of trusting the government to do their job let's throw a bunch of homeless people at someone with potentially inadequate training. Real smart stuff. Thinker of our generation
I dont think that pile of likely stolen bike frames constitutes as "belongings".... most everything in there is stolen and someone was a victim of robbery. Its hard to be sympathetic when this sort of activity is happening in your city or worse, to you.
Of all the people I’ve heard talking about this at work the last few days, not one of them has volunteered to take anyone into their homes. I do feel for them, but during the past few years I would never take my children downtown, people have mental health episodes on the sidewalk, very aggressive panhandlers and people using the washroom on the streets. Tax payers have a right to not be terrified walking down the street.
Why would they need to take anyone of them into their homes? You wouldn't nor would I.
@@c.san.8751 because the people who feel like they need to advocate for the drug addicted should be the ones taking care of them
It's about the government not making things affordable for people to live, not people taking people in their homes. The government is pinching so much that anything could cause someone to lose everything
@@calenphillips2631 I hear you but you know that is bs.
And then having the police do that is wasting more taxpayer money when it could be used to make things cheaper
made a community of......nadine thats not a made community. your such an advocate to keep people suffering on the street. thats whats nasty brutal and gross. leaving them like this on the streets is the problem. we understand full well nadine. we fund them as is. maybe time for you to sleep down there with their wonderful community you describe.
your choice to keep people living like this and claim its compassion just shows you should be the last person speaking for these people stuck on streets drugs.
thats the real tragedy. keeping them supported and drugged on the sidewalk is not help or compassion. ask an addict. get the truth
Keeps social workers in business.
I dont like her either.
capitalism through suffering is not good for "business" but you are correct.@@Mike-or3ry
Homelessness, skyrocketing demand for housing of any kind, and profoundly relaxed immigration laws have created a perfect storm
well said
Yes. And this hasn’t happened accidentally. The government is FULLY aware that limiting new build construction, shutting down mental institutions, decriminalizing certain behaviour, providing tax payer funded injection sites and allowing 400,000+ new people in to country every year is going to negatively impact our housing crisis, our health care crisis, our addiction and drug use crisis, our school space crisis, our government funded “welfare” program crisis…..etc. Yet, they’re doing it all anyways.
Why would they deliberately be trying to destroy our society, make life more affordable for everyone, strain the systems that so many depend on, run historical never seen before enormous deficits, devalue our own currency by taking deliberate actions to cause rapid inflation, take the dream of home ownership from younger generations, make it easier and easier for people to get government assisted suicide, send so much of our paid tax money overseas for wars and to fund other “global pacts” and initiatives set out by the World Economic Forum?
It’s almost like they want to force a collapse, so they can “Build Back Better” and “reimagine a new system” once they force capitalism to collapse (and they are trying). Prepping the people for a lower standard of living (can’t own what you want, can’t eat what you want, can’t drive what you want, can’t use the fuel that you want…….trying to change the concept of private property and ownership, trying to push insect consumption and reduce/eliminate meat/dairy consumption, trying to force people to go to electric vehicles, trying to “phase” out coal/oil/natural gas, want to ban gas stoves and certain appliances……).
They won’t be happy until control everything and have eliminated our choices, and they just tell us what we’re allowed to do and how we’re allowed to do it.
They aren’t joking when they say “you’ll own nothing”, but they are lying when there add on “and you’ll be happy”.
Nailed it!
If a guy from a foreign country that can barely speak the language cant out compete you, then you should look in the mirror.
Same problem here in Hamilton! Our police tares down homeless people and pushes them to other locations, just to move again, it's absolutely so scary how close alot of citizens are to facing this exact thing, I make 4k a month and I'm a paycheck from being in their shoes
I'm sorry dude....what? 4000$ a month and your barely surviving? Tell me you have three kids in thier teens and a stay at home wife like myself...... Because if not WTF are you spending your money on.....
They should be removing the trash from public areas. I wouldn't all9w ot anywhere near my home
@@calenphillips2631if he lives in Toronto $4000 is a mortgage now on a 1.5 million town house 3 bedroom! If he has 1 or 2 children its poverty in Toronto
Homeless people need to force them to take them to jail where they will be fed, clothed and sheltered. When the justice system comes to a screeching halt than they will start to care.
reply to GI-my8fw - Based on your comments you would be the first piece of trash they would remove.
Where would they store all the stuff they have even if they did have a shelter space? The problem is much deeper than having shelter space. The "structures" and "homes" are dangerous places that make it impossible for my kids to safely get to school. People should go and watch so they can see for themselves how these people behave and how much patience and humility most of the officers have when dealing w them.
Life is full of choices. Some people make horrible choices..but society is no longer punishing horrible choices anymore...its actually encouraged
Yup. And then this lady suggests that taxpayers build them houses instead of shelters? Why do they deserve free housing? Why should our tax dollars pay for that?
True. People still let the cops get away with the things they do. It's horrible!
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people.
@@mfer134 Johnson & Johnson should be paying for them. It's their homeless people
@@timfelger296 but I'm with you on government policy being a big part of the problem. Handing out free drug kits at injection sites is pure evil
Nadine, you have such a big heart ,why don't you take all these poor homeless to your home? This will solve our problems!
I bet there in No Immigrants in that encampment just Canadians .. Remember that . Same as here , we have Lots of Canadian Homeless but No Homeless Immigrants. Funny that
strange how our tax dollars goes to immigrants and not existing Canadians right
Imagine, people working because they appreciate the chance they have here to have a good life and contribute to society.
@@REAL-NANO imagine that same dream 4 a Canadian also and making it happen . , before bringing in others
@@annabeaulne2541 Job posting on every second business door.
If you want to work you can.
not only that but they are going to be building millions of new homes guess where...Brampton. Who lives in brampton, Immigrants.
No "encampment" anywhere should ever be allowed to get to the stage where it's a serious risk. My friend started a no alcohol encampment in Vancouver and was shut down: the poverty pimps and people in power didn't want innovation.
Sad and concerning how city has made a decision of displacing home less People in cold weather. City should have provided alternate place for them to live.
Why......no one supplied me with a house. Bad choices usely have bad outcomes
i quit my job at apx in Calgary because if this issue, not handled correct at all.
Need more people like you . 👍
Canada has been dealing with this and has seen this since 1997. This primarily comes from foreign investors willing to pay top dollar for your house. Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, and Ottawa all look very different.
Other cities should follow Edmonton. There are job opportunities, shelter, and other forms of support everywhere but many of them won't use it because of issues like drug addiction.
You are grossly misinformed
You can't live the "high" life following silly shelter rules, c'mon now...
Shelters can't handle hundreds of thousands
Good we need this accross Canada
So what happens to these people....oh ya not your problem
@@jessica19141 Hopefully they, a) accept the help which is already there, then b) make a concerted effort to stop being a burden to their friends, family, and society. Your compassion is killing them; what they need is accountability.
@@camberwellcarrot420 Our compassion? What compassion we're leaving them on the streets in the dead of winter. We're creating public spaces specifically designed to keep homeless people out of them. What services are "already there?"
@@jessica19141you going to take someone in then? Walk down by Roger’s place and the first guy you see screaming at a tree, invite him to come live with you…….. didn’t think so, someone else’s problem, but it makes you feel better to lecture.
@@nickacorn this NIMBY argument never fails to make me laugh bc NO ONE IS SAYING THIS. We want adequate housing that supports their needs. Not parasitic landlords who only care about $$ in their pockets. We need supportive housing that promotes harm reduction and provides a safe place for these individuals to heal. People cannot just overcome their addictions on their own. If you knew anything about the devasting affects that addiction plays on people mental health, then you would know that it isn't as easy as telling these people to "get over it" or "overcome their addiction". Having a stable support system is the first step to recovery. What you promote for is the reason why we are seeing an increase in homeless populations across the country. "Oh well its not my problem" is a lie you tell yourself. If it wasn't a problem, then you wouldn't be crying about it. Look beyond your own selfishness and realize that these are also human beings with lives - they deserve some respect. The sanctity of life is more important than ignorance.
This is the result of allowing the homeless to comply take over downtown during covid. Edmonton downtown and the entire transit system was comply overrun by the homeless and allowed to do so for so long they are now completely entrenched.
You make it sound like the homeless are an invading army with resources when it's the complete opposite
This comes down to taking care of the homeless properly... and an economy that should be providing more jobs and opportunities for all people. Bullying the less fortunate is no answer, you will only make desperate people even angrier, and more likely to commit crimes.
@verar5844 the answer is businesses pay a living wage as well as their fair share of taxes.
Politicians need to serve the people and not the corporations.
@@verar5844 Yes, I agree.
@@verar5844well..for 1 instead of all that money we sent to Ukraine and everywhere else, I'm pretty sure the city could have built a low income apartment building and filled it with bachelor units or whatever else and rented them out at price thats in line with what they get on assistance and for 2 update the social assistance program to something that's actually viable and not limited to such a short time frame as long as your participating in programs to help facilitate changing your situation. The "homeless camps" would be gone and could provide a centralized location to help ppl get clean and transition back into society. I'm not saying its the only answer or the best one but with all this talk of housing crisis incorporating these types of temporary residences into the plan sounds like a good idea to me.
Disgusting the way our government treats us 😢😢
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A lot made the choice to stay on drugs and booze and remain homeless. It's adorable how bad you feel. How many are you taking in? Personally I'm not taking any in. Because they made this choice.
How about those protesting the dismantling of the camp let them move into their house or yard
"High risk?" Why not "dangerous, lawless, or undesirable" instead of sugar coating the situation?
Homelessness is a complicated issue. But the needs of rest of the people need to be addressed as well. An encampment is a very nice way of talking about too many homeless (“100s”) in one place, a pileup of garbage and worse (urine, faeces, drug leftovers). And crime. In my community, the RCMP told a friend of mine they would not go into a homeless “encampment” in pursuit of a stolen bicycle. Cmon! It’s not just a bunch of “victims”.
Of course some of these people will steal things to sell. Addiction takes precedence over everything else. Sad way of life, but it’s out there .
I park near those encampments when I go to the ice district. I give the homeless chocolates or softdrinks when I walk by which they are so grateful for. Not once have I been threatened and not once has my vehicle been broken into or vandalized. The needle use is kind of scary though.
I'm sure chocolate and soft drinks is exactly what they need lol. I used to work down the road from an encampment. We would find literal shits in between cars. Also some guy was creaming his pants at the traffic lights with his pants around his ankles and hands stuffed in his underwear. Started rolling on the ground and almost went into the road a few times. They are a nuisance. @@googlesucks662
Let me understand, some people are “advocating” for someone else to live outdoors in makeshift shacks instead of being transferred to proper shelter facilities made available by the city authorities. Hypocrisy at its worst.
Let me understand this as well.....are you offering up your own facility? What's your address I'll start send Ubers full of homeless your way. Thank you kind person.
@hildaharkin writes: "As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept."
@@earlgreystoke3324 I grew up on the streets a homeless teen, straight out of the foster care system. That was over 25 years ago before the opioid epidemic , but I can tell you that i refused "indoor living accommodations" as well....... going from the streets back into a "institutional setting" was no step up.
I can't imagine its gotten any better since the 90's
The government subsidized housing wait list is 10 years. 10 YEARS.
So you get 3 months social assistance in Alberta before you get cut off completley..which inevitably ends in homelessness if you cant find a steady job by that time..Before you start saying I'd do this or they should do that, have any of you even tried doing the things your asking?getting a job, finding a place, getting identification etc with no prior identification, phone, bank account, fixed address, library card, bus pass or money in pocket? I suggest trying that first, your answer might change. When your homeless its damn near impossible to recover without a permanent address in the province. Pushing ppl off to the side or out of public view..all due to a faulty social assistance program isnt solving anything.
Most shelters allow you to use them as a home address. There's also a bunch of employment programs that can assist. Although 3 months is very short, I've been laid off longer than 3 months and couldn't find a job in that time.
@@toedrag-releaseyes just like most. 3 months is no where near enough time to find a job in this day and age. How can you even get a job without a phone to accept an interview or money to pay for it? Let alone who's gonna hire someone with poor hygiene looking and smelling like theyve been tenting under a bridge? It makes no sense to me..but sweeping the issue under the rug shouldnt be the anwser.
@@bullyarena3923sad but public policy in regards to the homeless is "out of sight, out of mind." They're only a problem when they stand out. Otherwise they're easy to ignore, both by the general public and politicians
Here’s a thought….. get rid of Social Assistance and let the strong survive?
Just sayin’
@@Stanley_Furley I hope your jobs secure!
I work full time and I can barley get by living on my own with the rise of price in everything.. Canada is going downhill at such a rapid rate, it affects my decision to have kids in the future..
By "all their possessions" are we talking about the garbage that these people have dragged to a spot on a city sidewalk? Are we talking about the public health and safety risks that come with heaps of trash? Should the city be held responsible for garbage as though it had some sort of value just because a homeless person dragged it somewhere?
Please don't be so insensitive of they possessions, it's more than garbage, they stole some nice stuff too!
So the courts said:"If you give them 48 hours notice and provide places for them, you can dismantle the camp". The police heard: "Dismantle the camp". I wonder if anyone would like to inform the court that the police are not respecting their judgement.
The courts are the reason these criminals are still on the streets and not jail
The truth is many homeless are not nice people: doing drugs, stealing, making unsafe fires & worse; however, there is surely an innocent homeless guy/gal who isn't doing drugs, isn't stealing, isn't making unsafe fires, & is actually trying to lower crime with the threat of being labeled a rat & the police are evicting them too. There's no +ve feedback, just profiling.
Those positive ones gave up their welfare cheques in exchange for government subsidized homes. The ones you see on the street are there because they want ALL of their cash to go towards their drug habbit. Either that, or they don't want to be under government rules. Like a schizophrenic that doesn't want to be on their meds. There's certain things you can't do if you live in a real home. Like sneak up and club someone for their money.
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send over seas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
48 hours to move when you have no job and zero responsibilities is very doable.
And tell that 300 pounder to donate some of her meals instead of blaming the public.
Who would've thought that the movie "They Live" would mirror our reality so closely... It makes you wonder...
How can it possibly be acceptable to have people living in homeless encampments? I don't recall homelessness like this years ago. Lefty tolerance for drug, alcohol addiction and mental illness encourages this but I do not see how we as a society can tolerate this.
Happy new year bud
There’s shelters, there’s support systems, rehabilitation, etc.. these people don’t want to get off the streets because they don’t want to get clean.
Exactly
This is not true for a lot of people. Shelters are not well funded and can’t support all the people in need, rehab isn’t easy to access, there’s actually very little support for people. And many of them have mental health issues that create and continue their situations. It’s not as simple as they just don’t want to. Not at all
@@foxxycleopatra615 you are bang on with your well informed opinion. Thank you for sharing it.
Have you ever stayed in a shelter!!? I bet you haven't. They are not fun!!
We can’t let them live like that . The people dismantling the camp were wearing full PPE from top to bottom
Many many people that are homeless have slipped through the cracks of Alberta Health Services. Many have mental health conditions, stop taking their meds. Many others have substance issues. These encampments are so dangerous for the homeless. They are abused by their own people they live with.
They need to dissect this problem and figure it out.
We have brilliant minds in Canada, I’m hoping it’s figured out soon.
Also I’d like to just say, I feel sorry for the innocent property owners and businesses and their employees and patrons as well, it’s a volatile scenario.
Canada is simply not as prosperous as it once was, due to neoliberalism and decades of dystopian "progressive" policies. You will have to get used to cities having shanty towns or favelas. Canada is not a 1st world country.
Same problems extensively throughout Germany. It's not just North America. Progressive policies just make everything worse.
These people never brought all the garbage with them educate yourself. people were dropping their garbage of.i watched a homeless man doing a interview that lived under a bridge. He was asked about all the garbage. Washers old dryers oldjunked cars you name it it was there and he said people drive in there through the night and dump the junk. And garbage bags of trash. It was a very good interview. This man was and electrician by trade lost his job and family andcarand house. so do not paint everyone with the same brush. No homeless people would carry old appliances and car bodies under a bridge.people needs to come up with a solution to get these homeless people help for a better life.
Electricians are have more work than they ever have..... Lol let me tell you about this bridge I've got for sale...... 😂
homeless electrician...how they get paid huge...they cant find enough of them....and they get paid huge. @@calenphillips2631
@@calenphillips2631 you can't sell it, some "electrician" is living under it 😆
@@spacewolfjr 😂😂 lol oh....right
We don’t need to help the homeless. Period. They help themselves to our stuff all the time
Post covid the situation in downtown is very distressing especially for the university students and LRT commuters. Streets are not for living. The government should find a better place for the people living in these “ shelters” and rehab them. Our tax dollars should go towards welfare of the less fortunate and not for funding wars across the globe
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drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and blaming the effects of the problem and not the 70-year government policy of drug prohibition that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send overseas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
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It's because it is an embarrassment to the mayor not because they are high risk. So sad...
You been down by Roger’s place lately? Take your kids down for a stroll and tell me how safe you felt afterwards.
Friend was chased with knife passing a tented community... let's be real
@nickacorn I agree but what's the solution Shelters are Temp and they have no income to do better I'm not sure what the solution is ....
if their shelters arent safe and its just made of pickup and go materials why not just build them tiny, livable shacks where they can at the very least sleep
we need a LOT more social workers to go and help rehabilitate the homeless
Good luck rehabilitating the drug addicts anywhere. That, what we saw was a junk yard, piles of junk. Nadine is blowing smoke .....
@@lynnnelson6689 You know theres a whole profession whose sole job is to rehabilitate drug addicts, i mean you might feel like youre better than them but you surely arent smarter than them.
Mr Trudeau, before helping the Ukrainians, please help your people.
We can do both, and must do both. But premiers need to lead. They have more direct control over municipal governments, zoning, and housing regulations. The failure is at all levels of government, not just federal. Sure, call out Trudeau, but call out Premiers, mayors, and councilors. It is a tragic lack of political leadership for decades that has caused this.
@@snaggy13 Canadian first! isn't it so hard?
@yohanchoi595 Not hard at all. Do you think it is in our interest to let Russia run all over Ukraine? I would rather pay the Ukrainians so they fight them there, rather than us having to fight them in our Arctic territory in 10 or 20 years (people forget we have a huge border with Russia.) Canada first, but let's play the long game. Supporting Ukraine is definitely Canada First.
@@snaggy13maybe the Ukrainians shouldn't have given up their nukes in exchange for a piece of paper and not be so corrupt
@@sandystanley1237 That has nothing to do with my argument.
Maybe Nadine should offer her back yard to them.
Shamu needs her space..
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Give them a bus ticket to New York.
The homeless make their choices to keep feeding their addictions instead of seeking help. Accountability is needed not excuses.
What about the homeless people that dont use drugs
@@bjeffrey1863Not our problem.
Also addiction is harder then you think there's lots of people who are addicts and live normal lives but are addicted to drugs and alcohol without there friends and family knowing so it's more to that then you think
Also are country needs to really address are rehabilitation centers and fix them if we want change are whole way of fixing the crisis is really outdated and needs lots of work done to better are community or its only going to get worse I recommend everyone watching wear to invade next it's a great documentary that talks about other countries that have changed dramatically in other ways and we can learn lots of benifits from them but still choose to fall behind
@@bjeffrey1863very few arent on drugs. There is plenty of help for those who actually go out and look for it.
@@B.A.S.S_B.U.N.N.Yyou dont have to tell me about how hard addiction is and like you said many work and function in society. Its when you allow it to completely destroy everything in your life that it becomes a excuse. Everyone has the freedom to make their own choices we need to stop supporting people who continually make bad choices. Everyone looks for something or someone else to blame and thats why we live in a backwards shithole society. No accountability for anything.
man thats a lot of bike parts and bike frames... HMMM I'm guessing none of them are stolen?
Downtown Edmonton to 109 st is over. I used to loved going downtown, even for a coffee.
If you think my city is the only city with homeless, your really narrow minded. Go to cow town, bc, red dear, nova scotia.itd all over
Don't be such a blind person.
You should see downtown Vancouver east side. It's a war zone.
mommyisssuesasmr8040 Not all homeless are dangerous I agree there are some also they are not all drug addicts either .Many are homeless that are immigrants that our so called Priminister brought into our country in every province they are living now I live in a small town and we have 57 homeless and there is a family that live in there car because they can't afford to pay first,last and damage deposit for a two bedroom apartment costing 18 hundred dollars a month making it 54 hundred to move into making minimum wage along with having to pay 150 to get lights hooked up and if the place has oil it's more money. Trudeau made promises that he hasn't kept and continues to bring in more with housing issues in every province . It's no wonder people are living on the streets ,parks and where ever they can find a dry place . It's sad that Canada has become this thanks to this Liberal goverment and there corruption.
And they should be made to clean up their mess! It is not for the taxpayers to sweep up after them!
Since the Covid lock downs in 2020 there are a lot more homeless on the streets of Edmonton. There are have been people camping, out of sight, in the River valley for decades but now there are tents appearing in new places. For example, for the first time there are tents clearly visible in the meagre strip of bushes along Calgary trail north bound and on the slopes of the Groat road.
Ask them where theyre from..youll realize they came here trought the open borders in the same time..
@@freddykruger1086 Are you serious man ? Most of homeless in Edmonton are indigenous , this a matter of fact
@@ZekeHair ye not in nova scotia..most of them new "tents" folks were sent straight up from new york trought roxhams and the other open points.
I do not understand why Edmonton is not housing these "individuals" in the empty previous remand center (they will have a hard time burning that down ) or the empty coliseum. Shelter for them. Peace for the community. WHY do we have to put up with this????
@hildaharkin writes: "As an outreach worker I can tell you that indoor living accommodations have been offered and strongly recommended but many refuse because it would require them to hand over their government cheques and pensions to cover their bills. My sympathy is waning. Accommodations are available to those who will accept."
@@earlgreystoke3324 They can spend the money on drugs & alcohol instead? It's abuse of taxpayers' money. They should be forced to go to proper shelters at least in winter. Sorry but not sorry.
And what will those empty buildings look like in a month or two? Who cleans them? Who provides security for the staff working there? Are volunteers/staff insured? Who is responsible if a worker is r*ped, beaten, robbed, injected by a dirty needle or killed in an altercation in a huge building of homeless mentally ill people high on drugs?!?
The same thing that happens in East Hastings Vancouver. There’s plenty of vacancies however, nobody wants to follow their rules ie mandatory urine drug tests, no alcohol, curfew etc.
I used to feel the same way as a lot of this comment section bc it’s easy to judge from a place of privilege. I grew up in upper middle class white suburbia Sherwood Park and never saw a homeless person in my youth. It wasn’t until I started working for an agency that assisted under privileged people that I realized it’s just not as easy as “get off the drugs and get a job”. These agencies are horribly under funded so can’t help all the people that need it, there is a ton of racism and/or various trauma that leads to addiction, depression, undiagnosed as well as untreated mental health issues. Many homeless don’t have education or any skills. Educated people WITH skills find getting jobs difficult so how do you think someone who has none of that can just go get a job? Who will hire them? Moreover, w the cost of living, who can support themselves on $15/hr anyway? It’s easy to be judgy when you have options but most of these people have very few and the govt, nor general society, doesn’t care enough to truly offer any to them which is why this problem persists.
It's not the rest of society's responsibility to sacrifice for the individual decision of others. Canada has free education from K-12 and offers loans and grants (literally free money) for post secondary education. Healthcare is free, and social support programs are numerous. If they don't want to sacrifice to make up for their past mistakes why should the rest of Canada?
@@weouthere6902 hmmm there is a line call it arbitrary; consider thinking
of the struggle to stay above the water (line) having fallen :-:
all those 'available' you suggested aren't so easily accessed a n d
willing to wager you never spent a week under th bridge in the cold
whilst waiting an appointment health care free ? try waiting?? a year
to get kidney stone smashed consider your recent 2018 ne subs
no followers hmmm little compassion, understanding reality !! e'h OuT?
so stop giving free drugs and tents. if you want drugs and tents you need to do your 4 hour shift of community service at least.
i mean start anywhere....just saying you didnt see homelessness cause you were isolated and white is kind of pathetic. maybe someone should have opened your eyes earlier. dont be in shock now. this has been happening forever.
I grew up poor and learned what a job and rent was, just like everyone else has to, no privilege in condoneing drug addiction, open drug use, crime rates increasing, rapes, overdoses, murders etc. And these encampments are just breeding grounds for it.
I'm guessing your epiphany started with school indoctrination rewiring your brain with every neural pathway heading straight to the victimisation room. None of this is the fault of anyone except the individuals who have made a series of choices to be homeless.
CBC Maybe post something supporting the people protecting us 👮♂️ and not the people abusing and selling drugs to our children 😅
Selling drugs to our children 😂
They should do what Kitchener ONTARIO did. With tiny little home. Very smart and its working
If the goal is to put people in tiny little homes, then yes, otherwise it really is a bandaid solution and not something that should ever become a permanent fixture of any society.
Again these addicts do as they please with no repercussions. Anywhere they camp they just totally destroy the area...when do business owners get taken care of i have absolutely no empathy for these addicts ...they have absolutely no respect for the neighborhoods they set up camps..i would never donate to help .
The City knew this was coming. But did nothing to stop it. It's sad that these encampments are the only options.
The old jail is still vacant. There are commercial buildings vacant. There is plenty of space, but our fearless leader Sohi can't see the camps 10 blocks away from City Hall? Can't find the funding? Especially will the millions saved this year on snow removal.
Even out LRT washrooms have become basically safe injection sites with Hiregood manning them.
I've seen up to 6 people employed to "Guard" an LRT platform and washroom from people who need shelter.
Do the math. The people who run the show are morons. Completely.
why put them in vacant buildings? they'll just wreck them.
Why don't the families of the homeless help them? likely because the families are sick and tired of dealing with them.
@@davemack6384 Families either dont exist, are too screwed up, or cannot deal with them. Either way, if they are not taken care of we will all suffer the effects of their misfortune. Desparate people do desparate things, and most likely not to each other. Working people will pay one way or another.
Should all be forced into rehab and not allowed fo leave till they get off drugs
Being homeless does not make you, a drug addict. Wow😢
How's that sanctuary city working out for yall now?
You get what you vote for.
YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT
Didn't Vagrancy used to be a crime? Since when do you have to give notice to someone trespassing?
let me get this straight, welfare rates have been stagnant for decades because nobody wants to pay for increases, but you'll happily jail the homeless for $60k a year?
It’s unbelievable that we can’t do better for the homeless than forcing them into tents… and then back out into the cold. Self-righteousness by those who are still lucky enough not to be taken down by mental health issues does nothing to move us closer to a solution. Take the time to listen to a homeless person, and you might understand how they got to where they are, and why they desperately hold on to what we “upstanding citizens” consider garbage. How many individual items does an average household possess? Compare that to the few belongings in a homeless person’s shopping cart!
You are on point and thank you for your insightful and empathetic comment. Solutions are found by discovering the root cause not by creating solutions to address the comfort level of those better off at the expense and possible survival of others. Taking away what little resources and options the homeless have puts them in a worse situation that will probably escalate the problem. Desperate people are forced to desperate measures, add in resentment and we'll end up in a society that will repeat the consequences that resulted in the French revolution or the Czars of Russia. Each of us should participate in helping those less privileged then ourselves instead of passing judgement from our comfortable positions or worse taking advantage of the less privileged for personal gain.
This is news head lines after 8 years of Trudeau. This country is broken.
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drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the 70-year government policy of drug prohibition that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send overseas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
The false compassion of the previous government has created this mess. I’m very happy this is finally getting done.
This life we are living in Canada right now is the reasonability of one gov. and those that disagree are the ones living off taxpayers.
We can not knock on ears of the government, but still hope people who think of migrating to Canada think twice or thousands times before heading to the land of cold-hearted, with fragile employment stability.
Cold cold hearts is true. It been bad for awhile.
I don’t think I’ve ever looked at a ‘homeless’ encampment and said , ‘yeah, that’s ok . I’m glad those homeless people are now living in a park I take my kids to enjoy’.
Let's shed light on the critical issue of hoarding among the homeless population, recognizing it as a mental health challenge that demands compassion. Cities face the complex task of addressing both the immediate needs of those experiencing homelessness and the management of clutter and junk resulting from hoarding behavior. Empathy should guide our approach, understanding that these individuals are grappling with mental health conditions. Balancing the necessity to clear public spaces with sensitivity is crucial. Collaborative efforts between communities, social services, and local governments can pave the way for solutions that prioritize both mental health support and urban cleanliness. Let's advocate for comprehensive strategies that address the root causes while maintaining dignity and understanding.
Thank you!
Well put
That's not an encampment, it's a landfill with people on the pile. They will not be able to remain anywhere with that level of incompetence. Disruption of these "rats nests " is one way to help keep these people alive longer. Amazing to see how Edmonton can't install proper camp setups given the availability of industrial camps and open parks in Edmonton.
This is inhumane to Canadians. This was a poor decision on our government. We can give millions to Ukraine but zero for homeless Canadians.
Our politicians are creating this problem. As Canadians, we need to take a firm stance against this.
2000 rent is not affordable housing.This is disgusting in Canada and very inhumane to Canadians.
Actually there are tonnes of supports available to them. They won't accept housing (because they have to turn over their gov't cheque and be clean). They're addicted and they don't want help. It's not an issue of resources.
They had 48 hours to carry many baskets…..
The “last minute scramble” was avoidable.
I’m so glad the police won this case. The language used by Nadine, is used to make the situation look worse and take away responsibility from the people themselves. If you got 48 hours notice, there is no reason to scramble unless you were negligent with the information. If you can’t include your family possessions with you, you must have packed the first things you valued.
These encampments are not because of a housing crisis. These are people who are either addicted to drugs or have mental health issues in some form. There are places and groups all over Edmonton who are designated to helping people get off the streets for free. Not to mention shelters, public housing, and addictions treatment. This is not population that can make good decisions in their own best interest and they are not entitled to cause destruction and havoc to themselves and the rest of Edmonton because they don’t want to follow rules or feel like victims.
Why aren’t you homeless?? Why are there homeless all over the world? Think a bit deeper people. Most people have had bad childhoods, or some sort of traumatic incident, or a job loss, or health issue. What separates people from being homeless or not?
The city is protecting all of our best interests. They can’t force people to stay in treatment or rehabilitation, but they can make being homeless less appealing and there’s nothing wrong with that when there are multiple resources in place to support people through hard times if they choose it.
Send them to Toronto. We have lots of unused bike lanes where they can do their winter camping. It'll be fun!
All are high risk except those who have liscensed vehicles they sleep in.
Criminalizing the poor,This is how you judge a society,How you treat the most vulnerable.Not a police issue
You are 100 percent correct, This is what happens when liberals are in charge
You can sign up and take in a homeless person. I could give you the link if you're interested in helping.
Helping the homeless and less fortunate starts with economic steps to protect everyday citizens from ending up in those scenarios. When you cut all the funding to public outreach programs, drug rehab clinics, welfare, food banks, and replace jobs with ai, and automation... it tends to impact things int he economy. What these people need is the proper services to get themselves back into a condition society deems employable. You can't just bully, and harass people for being less fortunate... you will alienate them and, anger them. They need compassion, but society as of late is pretty short of humanity.... the more we become Auto-matized by technology.
Most of these people want to be where they are, it's drugs and addictions, they don't want to change. These "camps" cannot continue. @@kyloren3693
@kyloren3693 hows your neighborhood?
They are not evictions . They are trespassing
Imagine being homeless for whatever reasons just to have the police steal what little belongings you have and force you to move, Just to be homeless still with less belongings. Especially in a cold climate. That is cruel.
You should accept a few into your home this winter, it would really help!
@@punkiinn139they’ll always say it’s someone else’s job.
Evil 😈 government
That is what it boils down to….. evil government
Nadine certainly looks well fed and well housed.
Well Nadine is a not a homeless person.
She likely sought out some kind of employment to trade her services for some kind of payment in order to pay for rent and food, maybe even some transportation.
MAKE NO MISTAKE.
This is a direct result of 10 years of Just Trudeau ineptitude and failed policies. It is widespread, and needs to be addressed in this way nationwide. Time to clean house...starting in Ottawa.
I'm all for relocation with services at the new destination.
But no defined destination means they'll congregate in another random location.
This is just moving the problem down the street instead of the cities edge in a controlled encampment with services.
In a controlled encampment you can sort out and segregate those with drug and mental issues from those down on their luck but able to work.
That workforce can be paid to build their own tiny accommodations in another location conducive to getting back in the game.
The plan needs multiple prongs of attack, one size does not fit all.
drug prohibition is the causation of the problem and you are ignorant for blaming the effects of the problem and not the government policy that creates drug-addicted homeless people. Printing money to send over seas and to the military is a way of controlling inflation, So much printing they have to give it to the poor to keep inflation under control.
You can judge a society by how it judges their poor. Need i say more. Be thankful and generous because everyone is just one wrong step from poverty.
As some social workers here have pointed out, there are accommodations for all. They just had to turn over their gov't cheques and they're taken care of. Homelessness is 100% optional in Alberta. It's almost always addiction that causes that "choice". Some people may be close to poverty but not homelessness. You have to work at being homeless in Alberta and the root is always mental health or drug addiction or both.
To the indigenous people in these encampments, please know that many in this country feel immense sorrow about your situation. The federal Trudeau Liberals and the Singh NDP could have build great homes for all of you, but they REFUSED, because they are paying $Billions housing hundreds of thousands of non-working and feint working immigrants and “asylum seekers” from all over the world in expensive hotel rooms throughout Canada: paying for their meals, transportation, entertainment, total health care - at Cdn taxpayer expense - ever though they and their ancestors have no history here, have done SFA for this country.
YOU ARE 1 MILLION PERCENT CORRECT! EVERY WORD OF IT!!!
You’re both absolutely 1000% wrong. Do you actually think that there hasn’t already been billions of dollars provided to the Indigenous? It’s done NOTHING to help. This has very little to do with money when you consider the Indigenous folk. The problem is so much more complicated than that. Sheesh🙄
.....billions pumped into indigenous programs threw out Canadian history....how's that working in 2023 now? No drinking water but we're supplying needles and narcan. You can't use people as voting blocks if you make them solve thier problems ......
Blame the liberals for that
Keep voting NDP😂😂😂😂😂