Absolutely beautiful car. I was confused by your rating system at the end. The cars looks, runs, and sounds amazing, what’s with the 6.5 and 7 ratings? The category of “Daily Driver” should be more about how well COULD you daily drive the car, not SHOULD you daily drive it. And the “Fun Factor” for that location looked like a perfect 10. Even in your own words, the power, weight, and handling were perfect for those canyon roads. Maybe I’m a bit partial, the 993 is my dream car. I’ll trade the owner straight up for my 997 C2S manual. I’d give it 10’s in every category. Love the channel.
Good points! When I was reviewing a draft of the video, I also questioned my ratings, mainly could the fun factor have been a little higher?... Perhaps an 8.25 or 8.5... But in the moment that day, an 8 is what I felt the car deserved. For the record, the car handled beautifully, and it was more confidence-inspiring than I thought it would be.
Thanks for another cool review of an interesting Porsche. It’s a shame so many people out there are constantly criticizing the content you guys are producing. Not really productive in any way and always comes off like a lot of complaining. Keep up the good work and don’t let the whiners get you down!
Do you track the 993/did you track the 981? I would like to eventually track my car (when I buy one), but worried an air-cooled wouldn't be the best for it. Would rather have modern tech as I'd be a novice. My worries justified or just go for it?
I think 1MR needs to return to this topic of 993... a modified '96 C2 isn't the real 'original' USA DOT 993 experience, but it is closer to the Zuffenhausen intended experience out of Werks 1, albeit this car looks fun, too! I've driven every 993, owned my '96 4S for 25-years and can tell you it's a different car with the aftermarket improvements. Mine has dramatically changed for the better since updating the US DOT stuff we had to import into a true Euro-spec 4S. There is also dynamically a different feel to the 2WD, AWD, and AWD Turbo, and a totally different feel in coupe, targa and cabriolet. I think a revisit with some 993 Rennlister's brining their full range of 993's out for a 1MR is a great editorial project! And we can even do some in different locations, come to SF Bay Area and I'll happily bring out my 4S for a ride review with some friends and their 993's! Cheers, -M@
I've had my 97 for 20 years. It now has a total engine rebuild and almost all the mods of this one except the Numeric short shifter. I have the same wheels and personally I like the way they look on the 993. The Fister Stage 2s sound amazing. I have PSS10s which do run a bit stiffer especially with the 18" wheels. Slower speeds on bumpy roads can be harsh but smooth tight and twisties and the odd track day are a dream. My seats are the rare sport hardbacks so there is no way I'm swapping those. This car will go to my son some day. Just a fantastic car that brings a smile to my face every time I see it in the garage or take her out for a Drive. To quote my friend Ferris "If you have the means I highly recommend you picking one up"
I owned a '95 Cab and loved it except for the headlights. The stock halogen lamps were just too weak for spirited nighttime driving on rural backroads (like in a night rally). There's also no practical way to add auxiliary lighting. Could have upgraded to the Litronics but at the time that was very expensive addition.
FYI. Very easy to upgrade to inexpensive HID’s. Same stock projector and easily reversible. I did it literally day 1 on my 993. There are more modern options as well if you want to go that route. I like the stock look.
Very good review Damon. 993 is by far my favourite 911 edition. Have to say though that in my opinion putting 996.1 or 996.2 alloy wheels just doesn't look right but I'm assuming with Turbo brakes required larger wheelset. Period correct 993 alloy look just fine. This is just my opinion and no offence to owner who has a fantastic car. 🎯☘️
Thanks for watching! I think @user-ux1yi2ho4i is spot on. The wheels on this 993 are some of the lightest Porsche has offered from the factory in the past 20 years.
I’m not sure there’s any fitment issue with the turbo twist factory wheels + turbo brakes but there is a massive weight savings with the MY02 BBS wheels (more if you’re comparing these BBSs to standard TT wheel variant and not the more rare, lighter and more pricey hollow spoke version). Unsprung weight reduction = less rotating mass allowing for improved acceleration and handling (albeit probably not discernible to most people). Style is of course subjective. I really like the design of the TT wheels but also think the MY02 BBS look great. For me, the weight savings tips the scale for the MY02s literally and figuratively which is why I run them on my own 993.
It's a pedal set made by Ultimate Pedals, who don't appear to offer them anymore. They're similar to the ones sold by Rennline/Ruf/etc, aluminum, textured with rubber inserts for grip. I'd found my feet slipping off the stock plastic/rubber pedals and figured something with more grip would be safer.
We're not going to speculate on this particular car, but 993s in decent condition start in the $40,000 range at the moment, though it's rare to find one that sells for anything below $50K.
@@travis3810 Yes, Cabriolets are what we've seen in the $40/$50k range. Coupes tend to go for a bit more. And yes, the 993 Carrera S is pretty rare and commands a big premium.
There's absolutely no way this thing drives nicely on those 18s. Why do people buy these cars supposedly for feel and feedback etc and then bolt on these silly fashion spec wheels that remove so much of that. It's so sad!
Not the best 993 choice, Damon and PCA, to generalize re: 993's. By your own admission you are also not very familiar with these cars and their iterations; the example chosen is far from stock: drive train, shift mechanism, seats, steering wheel, brakes, exhaust, wheels, etc. It's also higher mileage. I have had a '97 C4S for 10-years that is closer to the way the cars originally came from Zuffenhausen. Your conclusions are generally correct. But, to do such a review, I suggest driving a 993 example absent the LWFW, Big Red brakes, one with the factory shift mechanism(or with the Rothsport's or FD's kits), stock exhausts , stock steering wheel, and stock or factory option seats, before positing conclusions. Better yet, also drive a wide body with and w/o awd, as some owners note differences in handling. I'd include driving a Tiptronic to get the full flavor before such a review. Driving autocross and on a track would be productive in drawing conclusions, despite the fun twisties of Angeles Crest. I used to live there.
Frederick, I think you are missing the point. These reviews are about taking an example of whatever Porsche they get the opportunity to share and that may generate some interest. While much older cars than the 993 may be of interest in unmolested stock configuration, many viewers appreciate the fact that many of the cars being reviewed are modified in some way. It makes for more interesting content and I for one wouldn’t have it any other way. Nothing wrong that you prefer to see unmolested cars in the reviews but I suspect most viewers would agree with me. What would the fun be of going to a cars and coffee event only to see bone stick versions of every car there? There are plenty of reviews of unmodified 993s on the web so if this PCA one didn’t do it for you I’m sure you can find others. And if those don’t quite do it for you I suppose you could find the perfect low mile, bone stock example out there and do your own review. Give these guys at PCA some credit for producing this content that is interesting (to most of us who view it) and doesn’t cost you or anyone a dime to consume. Cheers and keep the shiny side up!
Thanks for watching! Frederick, as @user-ux1yi2ho4i pointed out, we drive stock and modified examples of Porsches for our One-Mile Reviews, and this was an example of a modified car. The modifications overall are not large ones, just a bunch of small-to-medium mods. When Damon says in the video the car is close to stock, he means that it does not have any mods that drastically change the character of the car, such as a turbocharger, or a high-compression hot-rod engine, just a bunch of small and medium mods, like short shifter, lightweight flywheel, exhaust work, etc. His comment could be taken to be a bit misleading, but that's why we list all modifications in the description, so viewers can make their own decisions about it. Hopefully we find an unmodified 993 to review, but the closest we've come is this one: ruclips.net/video/sIXm5cuG0ws/видео.html Perhaps if we're in your neck of the woods, we can collaborate on a video!
I've owned my C2 since I bought it new in 1996, stick shift. Have put 111K miles on it but don't drive it much any more. Functional? Heck yeah. It does everything I want it to, including carrying my golf bag and cart in the back. It was my daily driver for 20 years. Done several long trips in it and it still looks like new in my eyes. Brings a smile every time I see it parked in my garage. Plan to hand it down to my grand kids.
+1. Ordered a 1998 Carrera S after months of optioning the coupe just right ,,, Took delivery in October of '97 and never turned back.. Vail, Colorado
Absolutely beautiful car. I was confused by your rating system at the end. The cars looks, runs, and sounds amazing, what’s with the 6.5 and 7 ratings? The category of “Daily Driver” should be more about how well COULD you daily drive the car, not SHOULD you daily drive it. And the “Fun Factor” for that location looked like a perfect 10. Even in your own words, the power, weight, and handling were perfect for those canyon roads. Maybe I’m a bit partial, the 993 is my dream car. I’ll trade the owner straight up for my 997 C2S manual. I’d give it 10’s in every category. Love the channel.
Good points! When I was reviewing a draft of the video, I also questioned my ratings, mainly could the fun factor have been a little higher?... Perhaps an 8.25 or 8.5... But in the moment that day, an 8 is what I felt the car deserved. For the record, the car handled beautifully, and it was more confidence-inspiring than I thought it would be.
Thanks for another cool review of an interesting Porsche. It’s a shame so many people out there are constantly criticizing the content you guys are producing. Not really productive in any way and always comes off like a lot of complaining. Keep up the good work and don’t let the whiners get you down!
Thanks for watching!
Love my 993 it’s an amazing car, sold a 981 Cayman GTS to get it and never looked back
Do you track the 993/did you track the 981? I would like to eventually track my car (when I buy one), but worried an air-cooled wouldn't be the best for it. Would rather have modern tech as I'd be a novice. My worries justified or just go for it?
I think 1MR needs to return to this topic of 993... a modified '96 C2 isn't the real 'original' USA DOT 993 experience, but it is closer to the Zuffenhausen intended experience out of Werks 1, albeit this car looks fun, too! I've driven every 993, owned my '96 4S for 25-years and can tell you it's a different car with the aftermarket improvements. Mine has dramatically changed for the better since updating the US DOT stuff we had to import into a true Euro-spec 4S. There is also dynamically a different feel to the 2WD, AWD, and AWD Turbo, and a totally different feel in coupe, targa and cabriolet. I think a revisit with some 993 Rennlister's brining their full range of 993's out for a 1MR is a great editorial project! And we can even do some in different locations, come to SF Bay Area and I'll happily bring out my 4S for a ride review with some friends and their 993's! Cheers, -M@
We appreciate the feedback and the info. Cheers.
I've had my 97 for 20 years. It now has a total engine rebuild and almost all the mods of this one except the Numeric short shifter. I have the same wheels and personally I like the way they look on the 993. The Fister Stage 2s sound amazing. I have PSS10s which do run a bit stiffer especially with the 18" wheels. Slower speeds on bumpy roads can be harsh but smooth tight and twisties and the odd track day are a dream. My seats are the rare sport hardbacks so there is no way I'm swapping those. This car will go to my son some day. Just a fantastic car that brings a smile to my face every time I see it in the garage or take her out for a Drive. To quote my friend Ferris "If you have the means I highly recommend you picking one up"
Thanks for sharing!
@@PorscheClubofAmerica thanks for posting all the vids!
Probably the closest I'll get to a 993 is living vicariously through the PCA crew's one-mile reviews!
Happy to help :)
I owned a '95 Cab and loved it except for the headlights. The stock halogen lamps were just too weak for spirited nighttime driving on rural backroads (like in a night rally). There's also no practical way to add auxiliary lighting. Could have upgraded to the Litronics but at the time that was very expensive addition.
Thanks for sharing and watching.
FYI. Very easy to upgrade to inexpensive HID’s. Same stock projector and easily reversible. I did it literally day 1 on my 993. There are more modern options as well if you want to go that route. I like the stock look.
Very good review Damon.
993 is by far my favourite 911 edition. Have to say though that in my opinion putting 996.1 or 996.2 alloy wheels just doesn't look right but I'm assuming with Turbo brakes required larger wheelset. Period correct 993 alloy look just fine. This is just my opinion and no offence to owner who has a fantastic car. 🎯☘️
Thanks for watching! I think @user-ux1yi2ho4i is spot on. The wheels on this 993 are some of the lightest Porsche has offered from the factory in the past 20 years.
I’m not sure there’s any fitment issue with the turbo twist factory wheels + turbo brakes but there is a massive weight savings with the MY02 BBS wheels (more if you’re comparing these BBSs to standard TT wheel variant and not the more rare, lighter and more pricey hollow spoke version). Unsprung weight reduction = less rotating mass allowing for improved acceleration and handling (albeit probably not discernible to most people). Style is of course subjective. I really like the design of the TT wheels but also think the MY02 BBS look great. For me, the weight savings tips the scale for the MY02s literally and figuratively which is why I run them on my own 993.
Aw Man!
Now I want a 993! Is that the highest total rating ever earned?
Along with a 356, 914-6, 928 GTS, G-series Targa, 944, 964, 991.2 GT3…. 😳
Never ending list, lol
Another great review!
Glad you liked it!
I love the 18" Carrera wheel on 993s (and 968s)! I would daily drive that for sure (as long as it's not snowing...)
MY02 wheels are one of our favorites too!
Cool car
Beautiful car!
It sure is!
After complimenting the pedal set several times could you tell us what the owner did to modify?
See the description for a full list of mods. Lots of little, detail modifications on this car.
It's a pedal set made by Ultimate Pedals, who don't appear to offer them anymore. They're similar to the ones sold by Rennline/Ruf/etc, aluminum, textured with rubber inserts for grip. I'd found my feet slipping off the stock plastic/rubber pedals and figured something with more grip would be safer.
Thanks - that will help. The US set up for the pedal height and lack of a dead pedal foot rest in the 80's 911 needs improvement. Great suggestions.
I just smoked one in my 08 STI, lovely car tho jolly good show
What would something like this 993 go for in the current marketplace?
We're not going to speculate on this particular car, but 993s in decent condition start in the $40,000 range at the moment, though it's rare to find one that sells for anything below $50K.
@@PorscheClubofAmerica I'm assuming that is for a Cab. I have seen Carrera S Coupe's go for $100k+
@@travis3810 Yes, Cabriolets are what we've seen in the $40/$50k range. Coupes tend to go for a bit more. And yes, the 993 Carrera S is pretty rare and commands a big premium.
I paid $39,000 for the one in this video in 2006, including shipping from Kauai to LA!
What’s going on with the front license plate?
It looks like it fell off and Ray Charles refitted it.
There's absolutely no way this thing drives nicely on those 18s. Why do people buy these cars supposedly for feel and feedback etc and then bolt on these silly fashion spec wheels that remove so much of that. It's so sad!
Not the best 993 choice, Damon and PCA, to generalize re: 993's. By your own admission you are also not very familiar with these cars and their iterations; the example chosen is far from stock: drive train, shift mechanism, seats, steering wheel, brakes, exhaust, wheels, etc. It's also higher mileage.
I have had a '97 C4S for 10-years that is closer to the way the cars originally came from Zuffenhausen.
Your conclusions are generally correct. But, to do such a review, I suggest driving a 993 example absent the LWFW, Big Red brakes, one with the factory shift mechanism(or with the Rothsport's or FD's kits), stock exhausts , stock steering wheel, and stock or factory option seats, before positing conclusions. Better yet, also drive a wide body with and w/o awd, as some owners note differences in handling. I'd include driving a Tiptronic to get the full flavor before such a review. Driving autocross and on a track would be productive in drawing conclusions, despite the fun twisties of Angeles Crest. I used to live there.
Frederick, I think you are missing the point. These reviews are about taking an example of whatever Porsche they get the opportunity to share and that may generate some interest. While much older cars than the 993 may be of interest in unmolested stock configuration, many viewers appreciate the fact that many of the cars being reviewed are modified in some way. It makes for more interesting content and I for one wouldn’t have it any other way. Nothing wrong that you prefer to see unmolested cars in the reviews but I suspect most viewers would agree with me. What would the fun be of going to a cars and coffee event only to see bone stick versions of every car there? There are plenty of reviews of unmodified 993s on the web so if this PCA one didn’t do it for you I’m sure you can find others. And if those don’t quite do it for you I suppose you could find the perfect low mile, bone stock example out there and do your own review. Give these guys at PCA some credit for producing this content that is interesting (to most of us who view it) and doesn’t cost you or anyone a dime to consume. Cheers and keep the shiny side up!
Thanks for watching! Frederick, as @user-ux1yi2ho4i pointed out, we drive stock and modified examples of Porsches for our One-Mile Reviews, and this was an example of a modified car. The modifications overall are not large ones, just a bunch of small-to-medium mods. When Damon says in the video the car is close to stock, he means that it does not have any mods that drastically change the character of the car, such as a turbocharger, or a high-compression hot-rod engine, just a bunch of small and medium mods, like short shifter, lightweight flywheel, exhaust work, etc. His comment could be taken to be a bit misleading, but that's why we list all modifications in the description, so viewers can make their own decisions about it. Hopefully we find an unmodified 993 to review, but the closest we've come is this one: ruclips.net/video/sIXm5cuG0ws/видео.html Perhaps if we're in your neck of the woods, we can collaborate on a video!
Not a fan of the seats or wheels. 996 wheels just don’t look right on a 993.
ray charles?
Extremely not functional car. Once owned one of these.
I've owned my C2 since I bought it new in 1996, stick shift. Have put 111K miles on it but don't drive it much any more. Functional? Heck yeah. It does everything I want it to, including carrying my golf bag and cart in the back. It was my daily driver for 20 years. Done several long trips in it and it still looks like new in my eyes. Brings a smile every time I see it parked in my garage. Plan to hand it down to my grand kids.