my man I have to give you credit I've been trying to find a video that explains this and I go through so many people that just talk and talk and never get to the point or don't say what ISO they should rate the paper at. That's something I try to do religiously on my channel. And dude that drone follow was genius. Respect
Thanks a bunch! The drone follow was just a spur of the moment idea , but MAN it worked so well! Its hard to shoot that sorta stuff when you're a one man crew, but it worked out well as a second camera man!
@@GoEverywhere a few weeks ago I shot an extensive how to skate for adults tutorial and I really could have used something like that. I remember when drones came out they were such a huge thing and everybody wanted one but I think just like anything they are tools to be used at the right time.
Ohh yeah, drones and skating go together REALLY well. This was actually my first time trying the automated 'follow me' mode, and I wasn't actually convinced it would work out all that well, thats why you can see I'm constantly keeping an eye on the drone. But it worked flawlessly, I couldn't have done that better if there were two of me. I'm most certainly going to use it for tutorials like this a lot more, it made it so much easier to film myself, and much less static than a tripod shot.
You can actually use Ilford Multigrade Contrast Filters without an enlarger if you are using 4x5 paper negatives with the method you showed. Ilford makes those filters in a large 6x6 inch sheet size for insertion into the overhead enlargers that have trays above the lens but below the condenser head. Those filter kits actually start at 00 grade and go up to 5. You can lay one of those filters over the top of the contact print during exposure with the lights and that will give you a way to control the contrast without an enlarger in the mix. The 00 grade filter can also be used in front of the lens at the time you are exposing the paper negative in the studio or out in the field to control contrast in a subtle way. Those 6x6 filter kits are available on eBay used for less than a retail online shop. I hope that helps someone if they are struggling with contrast issues.
About to start cutting some paper in 4x5. But I'll be using HC-110 as the developer. Plus no tray devlop...don't have the room. Thanks for the tutorial!!
Hopefully they’ll design film holders that will make the process of shooting cut down film or paper negs in Lands more convenient. That would be cool. Give them new life.
I tried to use it my overhead lights to do a contact print with a normal negative once and I only did it for like a quarter of a second then it still completely blew out the entire print
I've done it in several different types of room light. In this tutorial it was 60W equivalent daylight balanced fluorescents. I've done it with tungsten balanced incandescents, and LEDs at various points as well.
Edward Weston used a hanging light bulb and made contact prints, he didn’t own an enlarger. He also adjusted contrast by using dodging and burning tools, no filters.
Weston would have used graded paper for overall contrast. That is, the paper is made to have a certain contrast grade, as oppose to the variable contrast paper, requiring filters, that most people use today. Overall contrast is like, if I have 2 different densities (“shades of gray”) in my negative, how different will they be in the print? Low contrast makes them more similar, high contrast pushes them apart. Dodging and burning is used for darkening and lightening areas of the print. I don’t mean to “well actually” the op, just wanted to clarify, since these ideas can be a little confusing for beginners.
Thanks for a great video. I'm very new to shooting paper neg and this was very instructional. Could you use your phone flashlight to expose the contact print instead of an overhead light? I'm presuming you'd need to expose for longer but maybe you'd be able to get more control over the exposure?
In theory yes, in practice it may be hard to keep the exposure even. Though if you had a tripod or something that could hold the phone steady throughout the exposure it'd probably work well.
Thanks, I've been wondering about contact printing paper negatives. Any advice about the overhead lights? LED, incandescent, fluorescent ... does anything work / do some work better than others?
I use incandescents just for convenience. LED works well too, and I had LED in my enlarger for a while. Fluorescent flicker at a very high rate which MIIIGGGHHTTT effect things, but probably not.
Yes, you can absolutely throw it in an enlarger and print larger sizes. Because the paper is more dense than regular film your printing times will be longer, but it works absolutely fine.
As far as contact printing them? Absolutely. The trick with regular negatives instead of paper is since they're transparent the exposure time is a LOT shorter than with paper. You basically flick the lights on and off as fast as you're able. Which means its hard to be consistent with your exposures. But it does work.
Now hold on a second, I used literally just a flash gun for my contact prints and it came out with far far better contrast than you have in yours there. Do you have any idea why that's happening? Cuz I think you can get a lot better out of your contact prints than you just did
The contrast is controlled by the color temperature of the bulb. Flashguns are usually more daylight balanced than overhead lights are resulting in more contrast.
It works with RA-4 color paper too, but it's a lot more complicated, and involves filters on your camera for color balance and IR filtration. I plan on doing a tutorial on that in the future too.
Would have been clearer to film the process with just plain paper so the steps could have been demonstrated in the light and just emphasize the need to do it in the dark when using photo paper.
That drone follow was so sick!
Thanks! I've been itching to try that, and it seemed like as good of a time as any!
my man I have to give you credit I've been trying to find a video that explains this and I go through so many people that just talk and talk and never get to the point or don't say what ISO they should rate the paper at. That's something I try to do religiously on my channel. And dude that drone follow was genius. Respect
Thanks a bunch! The drone follow was just a spur of the moment idea , but MAN it worked so well! Its hard to shoot that sorta stuff when you're a one man crew, but it worked out well as a second camera man!
@@GoEverywhere a few weeks ago I shot an extensive how to skate for adults tutorial and I really could have used something like that. I remember when drones came out they were such a huge thing and everybody wanted one but I think just like anything they are tools to be used at the right time.
Ohh yeah, drones and skating go together REALLY well. This was actually my first time trying the automated 'follow me' mode, and I wasn't actually convinced it would work out all that well, thats why you can see I'm constantly keeping an eye on the drone. But it worked flawlessly, I couldn't have done that better if there were two of me.
I'm most certainly going to use it for tutorials like this a lot more, it made it so much easier to film myself, and much less static than a tripod shot.
Wow I never knew this was even a thing. Definitely gonna try it sometime great video mate!
Well glad I could show you something new! :)
You can even buy contact print frames on eBay to help sandwich your negative and paper together.
Thank you for showing this method, i usual do some pinhole shooting with paper film, and this really helps me getting copys.
Great video! Love that you showed how to McGyver and your whole approach was REAL WORLD, not MATH in the DARKROOM world..thanks!
Thanks much! I always like to keep it real world, I figure its more useful than theory for most shooters.
You can actually use Ilford Multigrade Contrast Filters without an enlarger if you are using 4x5 paper negatives with the method you showed. Ilford makes those filters in a large 6x6 inch sheet size for insertion into the overhead enlargers that have trays above the lens but below the condenser head. Those filter kits actually start at 00 grade and go up to 5. You can lay one of those filters over the top of the contact print during exposure with the lights and that will give you a way to control the contrast without an enlarger in the mix. The 00 grade filter can also be used in front of the lens at the time you are exposing the paper negative in the studio or out in the field to control contrast in a subtle way. Those 6x6 filter kits are available on eBay used for less than a retail online shop. I hope that helps someone if they are struggling with contrast issues.
Ohh, good tip! I didn't realize they were still available that big!
Thanks for pointing that out!!
I have used paper of pinholes, but never for medium format, you sir are a genius!!!
Heh, I doubt I'm the first person to try this. But it is a lot of fun!
@@GoEverywhere You rock for doing it in medium format!!! i only did it in an oatmeal box!!!
About to start cutting some paper in 4x5. But I'll be using HC-110 as the developer. Plus no tray devlop...don't have the room. Thanks for the tutorial!!
Good luck!
I have design a way were you can use contrast filters and etc with a regular heat lamp with regular enlarger buble
This way really cool. Gotta give it a try.
You should, its a lot of fun!
This is really fascinating. How do a set my film cameras to 6 ISO? None have a setting that low.
Cool! I’ve been wanting to do this on my Land 195 (a Hassy is more trouble than I want, lol). Thanks, K-S!
Heh, its certainly easier to use as sheet film. And its PERFECT for old land cameras!
Hopefully they’ll design film holders that will make the process of shooting cut down film or paper negs in Lands more convenient. That would be cool. Give them new life.
Man, that'd be super cool. I know they get converted to 4x5's regularly but an insert for a smaller format would be really cool too!
Hmmm, I had not heard about the 4X5 conversion. That’s very cool. Time to Google!!
Great video! 👍👍👍
Thank you! 👍
Thanks for another informative vid! Stay safe
Thanks, you too!
I tried to use it my overhead lights to do a contact print with a normal negative once and I only did it for like a quarter of a second then it still completely blew out the entire print
this was awesome!
Thanks :) Glad you enjoyed it!
Super- if u get a chance- zoom in on the finished print🙏
Question, please tell us details about the room light.
I've done it in several different types of room light. In this tutorial it was 60W equivalent daylight balanced fluorescents. I've done it with tungsten balanced incandescents, and LEDs at various points as well.
That was nice. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Edward Weston used a hanging light bulb and made contact prints, he didn’t own an enlarger. He also adjusted contrast by using dodging and burning tools, no filters.
Thats super cool, I didn't know that! I'm gonna have to lookup what his setup was like!
Go Everywhere Kim Weston has a RUclips channel and he shows Edward Weston a darkroom, very minimal
Weston would have used graded paper for overall contrast. That is, the paper is made to have a certain contrast grade, as oppose to the variable contrast paper, requiring filters, that most people use today. Overall contrast is like, if I have 2 different densities (“shades of gray”) in my negative, how different will they be in the print? Low contrast makes them more similar, high contrast pushes them apart. Dodging and burning is used for darkening and lightening areas of the print. I don’t mean to “well actually” the op, just wanted to clarify, since these ideas can be a little confusing for beginners.
Thanks for a great video. I'm very new to shooting paper neg and this was very instructional. Could you use your phone flashlight to expose the contact print instead of an overhead light? I'm presuming you'd need to expose for longer but maybe you'd be able to get more control over the exposure?
In theory yes, in practice it may be hard to keep the exposure even. Though if you had a tripod or something that could hold the phone steady throughout the exposure it'd probably work well.
@@GoEverywhere thanks for getting back to me. I might give it a go one day just to compare with full light.
Great tutorial, thanks.
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, I've been wondering about contact printing paper negatives. Any advice about the overhead lights? LED, incandescent, fluorescent ... does anything work / do some work better than others?
I use incandescents just for convenience. LED works well too, and I had LED in my enlarger for a while. Fluorescent flicker at a very high rate which MIIIGGGHHTTT effect things, but probably not.
@@GoEverywhere Thanks!
thank you
You're welcome!
it cool ，but is it possible to enlarge the 35MM film ?or it's only printing the same size of the film?
Yes, you can absolutely throw it in an enlarger and print larger sizes. Because the paper is more dense than regular film your printing times will be longer, but it works absolutely fine.
Can a similar process be done with 4x5 film negatives?
As far as contact printing them? Absolutely. The trick with regular negatives instead of paper is since they're transparent the exposure time is a LOT shorter than with paper. You basically flick the lights on and off as fast as you're able. Which means its hard to be consistent with your exposures. But it does work.
Now hold on a second, I used literally just a flash gun for my contact prints and it came out with far far better contrast than you have in yours there. Do you have any idea why that's happening? Cuz I think you can get a lot better out of your contact prints than you just did
The contrast is controlled by the color temperature of the bulb. Flashguns are usually more daylight balanced than overhead lights are resulting in more contrast.
What ratio did you use for the hc110 ?
HC-110B, which a 1:31.
Go Everywhere ahhh so just like a negative with dilution b. Thanks
Yep exactly the same.
Did you try it with RA4 paper?
It works with RA-4 color paper too, but it's a lot more complicated, and involves filters on your camera for color balance and IR filtration. I plan on doing a tutorial on that in the future too.
my god watching this is a nirvana for me
Heh, glad you enjoyed it Don!
Would have been clearer to film the process with just plain paper so the steps could have been demonstrated in the light and just emphasize the need to do it in the dark when using photo paper.