Vet tech here. Munchkins suffer from a lot of health problems with arthritis being the big thing. They are not ethical and it's sad seeing 2 year old cats in so much pain from deformed joints and spine. Bambinos even worse because you mix skin issues into the whole genetic mess. These guys come from unethical breeders that prioritize looks over health.
@@akirakato1293 I've seen Oriental Shorthairs fit the bill. As long as you are buying from a breeder that has proof of OFAs (or whatever that country's version of OFAs are) and genetic health tests. It's important to do research before hand. Reputable breeders will have a wait list. They will pick kittens that seem they would best suit you. They show their cat and have won shows showing proof of conformation. Please note I've only met like 5 total so this may not fully fit. As the catteries tend to produce Muchkins, Bambinos, Ragdolls, and British Shorthairs. So those are the breeds I see the most. I always advocate adoption too, but you will never know what health issues are in the genetics. Adopt responsibly or shop responsibly! Going to cat shows in your area and talking to breeders can also be very helpful on finding a breed for you!
Exactly. It's so cruel to breed an animal deliberately with deformities that cause health and survival issues just because you think they look cute like that. Just get a stuffed animal toy.
Imagine breeding human with cute feature, but they will have health problem, that will probably be illegal. But its animal, who are they gonna sue? THEIR BREEDER? ;D Haha, what I mean is most people don't care, hence we still see this mutated kitty being bred for profits.
@@HC-qe8ii If you breed animals for a specific trait that has a known side effect of an uncomfortable life, yes breeders should be arrested. Designer humans are illegal in most places because it's unethical.
I mean munchkins can still function as cats if maybe to a slightly lower quality of life, meanwhile pugs have their eyes popping out, their lungs failing and just overall looking and sounding disgusting because selective breeding made them permanently undercooked no matter how long they're in the primordial oven that is the vagina so comparing munchkins to pugs is just unfair
@@parham1023 That's...not the point? These cats suffer from a ridiculous number of health problems. They're saying that if you don't care about the health issues because the cats are cute, you shouldn't be owning pets. Not that you won't own pets, not that you won't be allowed to own pets, that you shouldn't. Words mean things.
Breeding any animal with the express purpose of giving it a genetic mutation that will make their lives harder just for aesthetic reasons is a level of evil that I don’t think I could put into words
I’ve had cats in my life for over 50 years now! A cat chooses you, you do not choose it! They are family members! Not decorations! My current friend was at a Shoney’s parking lot! All the servers told me he was mean, and did not like people! Haha! That was 5 years ago! And here he is in my home! Sassy little male, all dressed up in his cute tuxedo! 😘
Its so cruel to do this to animals. Whether its cats or dogs. It's sad these poor little babies have to suffer the consequences of what ignorant people do.
I can't imagine being so cruel and greedy that I would rationalise purposely sacrificing health and quality of life for appearances when breeding animals.
Intentionally breeding for a medical issue is cruel. And that said, we shouldn’t force all these cats to die or go extinct either, but rather let the ones remaining exist and stop attempting for this trait so heavily.
My stance on it is the same as my stance on pugs. Breeders should breed responsibly and owners should do research before buying a particular breed so they know what to expect in terms of potential health issues as the cat gets older.
what's "responsibly" when it comes to breeding pugs or these? they know they're creating more animals that are inherently prone to severe health issues that make them suffer with age.
@@calisong6554 for one, breeders usually have records of the breeding history of any animals they sell and as such have a record of any health conditions that the bloodline specifically may be predisposed to and also any conditions the breed as a whole is predisposed to. The responsibility angle comes from providing those records to any prospective owners so they know what they’re getting into and those prospective owners knowing the potential health risks they’ll have to manage throughout the animal’s life. In a perfect world we wouldn’t have to worry about issues like this, but we don’t live in a perfect word and instead should deal with the issues responsibly
@@calisong6554 Think of the spiderman quote, "With great power comes great responsibility." I'd say being able to create a whole new breed of animal is qualifies as a greatpower. Responsibility isn't about knowing the consequences of your bad actions, it's about not making bad actions in the first place.
@@calisong6554 to not make animals that can't live a comfortable life and are in constant pain. Knowing that what you're doing is wrong and not doing anything about it isn't responsibility.
@@satan3862every gene mutation has to have inbreeding to start it. I used to breed chinchillas and that is how certain colors get started. You have one that has the mutation, then inbreed until you have more. Then you can generally branch out from there once you get it started. This is a common practice. Btw, animals don't have as severe of issues with inbreeding as humans do. They are more hearty genetically. Animals in the wild inbreed all the time.
@@Karamarika what makes you think i care? All that doesn't change the fact we are literally making animals that can't even fucking breath because 'oh my god its so cute~' there is a difference between breeding and straight up making animal disabled
My dad told me when I was younger the only situation in which it’s okay to adopt a munchkin cat, is if they are being abused, or are going to be bred. He always taught me to think of how genetically cruel breeding animals like these can be 💔
May I say...username checks out? (Taylor Swift owns Scottish Fold cats, who suffer from a disease called osteochondrodysplasia.) I mean, it's great that you care about animal welfare so much, just keep in mind Munchkins are not the only breed with a deformity.
@Lydster05 Oh don’t worry I know! I did reaserch and am gonna avoid any cats that have some sort of genetic condition that causes pain, so pedigrees, scottish folds, munchkins… the reason I only mention munchkins in my comments is because that was the breed they talked about in the vid lol. (TBH never really approved of taylor having scottish folds but hey, she can probably afford to keep ‘em comfortable)
@@That_randomSwiftie That's great! I got 3 out of my 4 via the cat distribution system anyway, and the 4th one I adopted from a relative. Also yes, she is probably rich enough to pay for all these vet visits her cats are in need of...
@@Lydster05I had a Scottish fold who had a lot of joint problems. I think the breeder I got her from (she was a retired queen - i couldn't afford a kitten at the time) was possibly breeding fold to fold, at least some of the time. She lived to be 16 before we had to put her down due to major organ issues, not because of her joints. She would cry out periodically and would limp and favor one paw. It didn't cost us a lot in vet bills because there isn't really anything they can do. They wouldn't give her pain meds. I tried to give her joint supplements but she wouldn't eat them no matter what I did. In the last couple years she just spent most of her time on her cookie (her cookie shaped bed). Other than that she was a happy enough cat the rest of the time.
@@Karamarika I think it's kinda funny that you don't even seem to know yourself what you actually want to tell me. Just get a kitten from a shelter next time.
"Their short legs come from a mutation in their genes. This genetic mutation is what makes their legs so short." Hmm, the floor here appears to be made of floor.
@@ryannovel8892 i don't think repeating the same sentence twice necessarily means it's A.I. generated content... i don't think repeating the same sentence twice necessarily means it's A.I. generated content...
My cousin wanted one, I was completely against it and showed all the health problems they have and how important that is to understand and create a routine with the right exercises and food to try and make them more comfortable towards the years. She understood and no longer wishes to have a cute cat in detriment of their health.
Theyre absolutely SWEETHEARTS! but i still think the breeding of munchkin cats should be stopped, every cat is adorable and a little baby in their own ways, i cant ever handle to see such a cutie in constant pain.
@@Professionalexister Breeding is illegal everywhere, owning depens on the state. Some allow it, some only when adopted from shelter and some ban them entirely. It´s not uniform sadly, same with dogs and the breed lists change, too between the states, cuz why would you want it to be easy or logical. 🙄
Both sides are in the wrong breeders constantly be breeding things that have health problems and will probably die due to certain changes and mutations however the buyers are also a problem because these type of animals are in high demand even though they constantly have to suffer from just existing
@@scourgatorythe only problem is people also hate increasing the stray cat population so if we stop breeding cats and also prevent stray cats from mating we will lose the cat population so it is a really tough question
Scottish Folds are another breed of cat that suffers due to selective breeding. The reason their ears fold is due to osteochondrodysplasia, as it affects the cartilage in the ears, but it also affects the cartilage throughout the rest of their body (like between the joints) and causes side effects like early arthritis.
"look at this cute cat type!" Awwwww c: "its every last breath is a reminder that nothing in its life will ever be happy, it is a life of pain and immense discomfort." Awwww :c
They are very happy cats. I have two of them, and they are no different than my other, long-legged cats. They play, they cuddle, they purr, they climb on stuff - they do everything any other cat does. They don't realize they are any different.
@@Karamarikaand they are very prone to arthritis and deformities to their joints which can cause incredible amounts of pain. So no, they're not "no different than other cats"
@@Wombattuus It's okay to take your cats outside for walks with you, maybe even let them socialize with other cats from a safe distance. Just be there with them in case you need to prevent something.
You people do realize they are ANIMALS, right? How can you think that kind of behaviour is any different from munchkin breeders? You are intentionally making your pets weaker, trying to breed the wildness out of them. It's down right sick! Let cats be cats.
I understand they have health problems, but they still deserve a home like every other cat. Edit: I don’t agree with the breeding of these kinds of animals that hurt them for aesthetics, I just think they should still be loved and cared for
They will still be loved and cared for this is about the health problems she is saying that buying one because of its looks is wrong You can rescue one you can adopt one from another owner you can do many things that don't make breeders and pet shops think that they need to sell more of that breed because you bought from them
Insert any short legged dog and flatfaced. Hell pugs cannot give natural birth, they have to be c-sectioned. Promote mix breeding, bring glory to mutts
Master Mold: "Retrieve the mutants." Sentinels: "Affirmative." Sentinels: (*arrive later with several hundred munchkin cats*) Master Mold: "This is what I get for expecting anything of AI."
They're cats and deserve love, but i would never breed one. I like my cat to be healthy, long lengs, sportive, playful, I'm happy to say that my baby boys are healthier than me at this point 😂❤
If you're planning on getting a cat, please don't get genetically modified cats, most of them suffer health problems because of things like short legs or small noses. Instead, get a normal cat, it can be long-haired, short-haired, doesn't matter.
@@whitich8759 Short answer, yes. But adopt from a shelter, and don't buy from a breeder. Buying a munchkin from a breeder supports these unethical breeding practices.
The way i see it it is unethically to breed specific traits for pets. Imagine if we did that for people? The latest fashion is to have a child that's 10ft 3 with a curved spine and tiny little t-rex arms. Life for them would be short and hellish but who am i kidding. There are some people with some screws loose who would follow such a disturbing trend because it's popular
You do realize that people with dwarfism have babies, right? They will often even prefer that they have dwarfism. Also, if two people with dwarfism procreate, there is a 25% chance that their child will be double dominant, meaning they got 2 copies of the dwarfism gene. It's lethal. Every time.
Cat breeding and dog breeding for cuteness gets me sick sometimes. Not even just the smushed in face, either. Some breeds have the heightened risk of a brain too big for the skull (Cavalier King Charles Spaniels), some are known for the likelihood of not being able to eat protein (Dalmations). For English bulldogs, they full-out have to be bred via IVF because they're so heavy that they can break the dam's back. Then on top of that, they have through a c-section for birth because their heads are too large. (The enlarged head is also a risk on Boston Terriers and c-sections are not at all rare for them) Bassett hounds and dachunds are known for back and joint issues. Curled tails like you find on pugs is a risk for being paralyzed. Elbow and hip dysplasia for many breeds, (especially German shepherds, but *far* from the only one). Irish wolfhounds and greyhounds are known for heart issues. Then there's something called spaniel fever. Then we have pulis.. whether you have time for caring for that coat or not, that coat does nothing for them. People are so caught up in how a pet looks instead of the welfare of that animal. Shows in the behavior of the pet, too. There so many horrible videos of pets online; it's shameful. There are so many of dogs "being cute" by attacking their owners (unsociallized and untrained Chihuahuas with "small dog syndrome"), chasing around/attacking other pets, then you have videos like that guy in a batman mask demanding "where's the catnip" when that cat is full out cowering and *terrified* of him. . Went on a tangent, but breeding for certain characteristics instead of for their health is getting horrific. So many people do not care about their pets' welfare, only their wish to have a pet for company and possibly just that and just for videos and pictures to share online. Not every owner, of course, but there are thousands.
i'm really glad this video covered the health problems associated with munchkins first thing and ended off on the query tons of people are going to see this tons of people see and love munchkin content, like Ringo Danyan it's important that this information is spread as far as the breed's name has
If you're buying them from a breeder rather than adopting (or are the breeder), yeah. Or really any breed of any animal known for having health issues. Super sad that people bring animals into this world just for them to suffer cuz they "look cute" and make money. It's so selfish
Learn to fact check. short legged cats do not have the same health issues as their dog counterparts, this is because cats have more flexible spines and different muscle structures. they are built to twist while they climb while dogs are built to run long distances. breeding munchkins with other munchkins can result in stillbirths however the breed is as healthy as any other cat breed source: Veterinary medical guide to dog and cat breeds, 2012, p.550
Yes please I'm ready for this! 100% 💯🫠 So many people choose to ignore the GUARANTEED health issues in favour of "cuteness", it's horrific and drives me absolutely mental with anger when I hear them trying to justify owning one. There's so many channels on tiktok that promote this unhealthy, poor life expectancy kitty. It's like climbing an uphill staircase/ladder that's been greased right now with how popular they've become and how selfish people have grown towards animal welfare
@@VanoBlox one good thing the Tory government had done in the last decade and I hate the Tories with a passion so to give them a compliment is HUGE for me ahaha
I really liked this, actually bringing attention to the ethical problems with munchkins unlike so many other videos I've seen. Thank you ❤️ years ago it was being said that munchkins don't have health issues and I immediately thought "that we know of" and "it's just a question of when not if that the breed will have issues specifically due to the characteristic", you just have to look at corgis and dachshunds to see what the long spine short legs combo does to an animal... And how breeders keep denying the problems and thus you shouldn't trust breeders for factual information on the health and well being/quality of life of the breed. I've seen people who breed *British bulldogs* act as if they have any right to speak on the ethics of snake breeding for example, claiming the spider morph in ball pythons with its neurological issues is fine.
My neighbour's cat had kittens with a feral cat (both domestic short hairs) and one of the kittens ended up having short legs and a short tail. Is that still considered a munchkin cat, or just a genetic mutation? (Kitten is fine and happy)
I stick with rescues but I stand by the same ful with breeding as I do eith pugs it's a defident no it skes cause them problems I'll rescue any cat but i would never get one from a breeder
It's okay to adopt one of these pets, it's not okay to breed one. Ones that already exist need to be given to good homes, but more of them shouldn't be made.
We're here to stop it this time. We must not make another pug species. Please. Stop. Cats are adorable without going overboard like this. No more cuteness required.
Personally, I think that the cats shouldn't be bread seen as there's already enough homeless cats in the world and you can see that by just going to any shelter also, we don't want to repeat of the pug
This happens a lot with doxens (also know as weiner dogs or Daschunds). There backs are arched weirdly because they were bred to hunt burrowing small animals like rabbits and there legs are also much shorter to help them fit. While this does help people hunt it also causes really bad back problems for them as they get older
My cat was bred to be a mouser and he's unusually intelligent and coyote resistant. I'm pretty sure the breeder did some unethical practices though as she was known to starve her rabbits to make them drought resistant.
@@hearala He's my dream cat in terms of fur too. Flame point is my favorite flavor, I can't believe I got one as a birthday present out of the blue from my dad's crazy sister.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 heh! i can keep dreaming about getting a cat sadly. ;-; my mother hates cats and we live in an apartment. Maybe if it was a cat that didn't require as much exercise, but either way literally my whole family would disagree.
Munchkin cats standing up on their tiny hind legs is a sight I'll never get over. It's just so adorable, they could ask for my credit card information and I would give them 😭
Don’t breed munchkin cats!! And don’t adopt them, either, because that will make people keep breeding them. 💔 If you already have one, give it a good life, and make sure it knows it’s appreciated and loved. 💕
i have a cat who we think is a mixed breed, munchkin and American short hair, she looks jst like an American short hair, but has very short and stubby legs.
This cats is really popular in Korea and china, cause they looks like a toy, but I'm agree with the health problems, if you looking at their life you can see they are really trying so hard just to get active like normal cats.
I know someone who breeds small cats (idk what type - they have shorter backs but only slightly smaller legs, more small overall) and she had to put fencing over her garden to stop them from jumping onto the roof! You would NOT think it was possible if you saw these cute little cats
Vet tech here. Munchkins suffer from a lot of health problems with arthritis being the big thing. They are not ethical and it's sad seeing 2 year old cats in so much pain from deformed joints and spine. Bambinos even worse because you mix skin issues into the whole genetic mess. These guys come from unethical breeders that prioritize looks over health.
This needs more attention. Prioritize your pet's health, over looks!
Bro there so cute
What is the cat breed that is healthiest naturally, good balance of active and chill, and low maintenance? I’m looking to get a pet myself.
@@akirakato1293 I've seen Oriental Shorthairs fit the bill. As long as you are buying from a breeder that has proof of OFAs (or whatever that country's version of OFAs are) and genetic health tests. It's important to do research before hand. Reputable breeders will have a wait list. They will pick kittens that seem they would best suit you. They show their cat and have won shows showing proof of conformation. Please note I've only met like 5 total so this may not fully fit. As the catteries tend to produce Muchkins, Bambinos, Ragdolls, and British Shorthairs. So those are the breeds I see the most. I always advocate adoption too, but you will never know what health issues are in the genetics. Adopt responsibly or shop responsibly! Going to cat shows in your area and talking to breeders can also be very helpful on finding a breed for you!
Exactly. It's so cruel to breed an animal deliberately with deformities that cause health and survival issues just because you think they look cute like that. Just get a stuffed animal toy.
If a mutation like short legs or short snout can hurt a creature, intentionally breeding any animals with these mutation should be outlawed.
Anyone who disagrees with that, should not have animal companionship.
Very right
I cant even think about the pain they are having
Imagine breeding human with cute feature, but they will have health problem, that will probably be illegal.
But its animal, who are they gonna sue? THEIR BREEDER? ;D Haha, what I mean is most people don't care, hence we still see this mutated kitty being bred for profits.
@@HC-qe8ii If you breed animals for a specific trait that has a known side effect of an uncomfortable life, yes breeders should be arrested. Designer humans are illegal in most places because it's unethical.
Munchkins are the cat version of pugs...
Thought they were the cat version of Corgis
@@AnastasiaSaenzTheyre saying pugs because pugs have medical issues and people breed them because of how they look
Just seemingly a lot less severe…yet
I mean munchkins can still function as cats if maybe to a slightly lower quality of life, meanwhile pugs have their eyes popping out, their lungs failing and just overall looking and sounding disgusting because selective breeding made them permanently undercooked no matter how long they're in the primordial oven that is the vagina so comparing munchkins to pugs is just unfair
I think that’s also the Scottish fold. They have massive arthritis issues 😢
if you want your pet to be cuter to the detriment of its health, you shouldn’t own a pet
Breaking news: You can't control people and their actions
@@parham1023 That's...not the point? These cats suffer from a ridiculous number of health problems. They're saying that if you don't care about the health issues because the cats are cute, you shouldn't be owning pets. Not that you won't own pets, not that you won't be allowed to own pets, that you shouldn't. Words mean things.
@@parham1023 Oh, okay! So that makes ALL laws useless! Let's ban all laws! What are they even used for?
@@TessdaWater and what I said was clear: people will own cats. They will keep breeding them like this. Most humans do not care.
@valentinhalau3396 it's not related to law? Plus, it's an animal. You want to create a cort for that furbal? XD
Breeding any animal with the express purpose of giving it a genetic mutation that will make their lives harder just for aesthetic reasons is a level of evil that I don’t think I could put into words
I’ve had cats in my life for over 50 years now! A cat chooses you, you do not choose it! They are family members! Not decorations! My current friend was at a Shoney’s parking lot! All the servers told me he was mean, and did not like people! Haha! That was 5 years ago! And here he is in my home! Sassy little male, all dressed up in his cute tuxedo! 😘
The bad people are not the breeders, the bad people are all those mf d*mbass who actually BUY those cats
No customer, no supplier...
I think it reckless n cruel to create a breed of cat that's generically flawed simply bc it looks cute. Breeders should breed responsibly.
You’re a vegan right
So how do smaller legs make the cat live in constant pain?
buyers should be responsible as well. there wouldn't be much breeders if the demand wasn't there in the first place
@@augustwest8863 and? is that supposed to be a bad thing lol
@@augustwest8863idk bro it sounds like an actual concern.
Its so cruel to do this to animals. Whether its cats or dogs. It's sad these poor little babies have to suffer the consequences of what ignorant people do.
human meta? jokes aside, i agree
Right?
And OMG have you seen the abomination they are making of the muzzle of Arabian horses!
If we start talking about breeding, most dog species suffer a lot from it.
Stop breeding!
I know right. I almost never hear someone talking about the effects dogs get when bred but they talk about the cats, especially munchkin cats
@@EmilyJohannessen Pugs are literally THE breed used when people talk about over breeding.
Most dogs suffers from inbreeding. I think that is correct word.
I'm sure other channels cover it but this is specifically a cat channel
I'd much rather have a happy healthy cat that can move well than just a cat that is cute.
I can't imagine being so cruel and greedy that I would rationalise purposely sacrificing health and quality of life for appearances when breeding animals.
I was thinking just that, and the same goes for hairless cats, which don't even look cute.
D*gs caught this really bad.
Yeah this kinda thing is pretty screwed up
@@LaJokanan I thought sphyx were an existing breed of cat. Is it human made?
@@BangchanBestLeader. Yes, they're made for owners that are allergic to cat fur.
There needs to be a discussion on the ethics of intentionally breeding any creature with health issues in exchange for visual appeal.
Intentionally breeding for a medical issue is cruel. And that said, we shouldn’t force all these cats to die or go extinct either, but rather let the ones remaining exist and stop attempting for this trait so heavily.
so what about you?
My stance on it is the same as my stance on pugs. Breeders should breed responsibly and owners should do research before buying a particular breed so they know what to expect in terms of potential health issues as the cat gets older.
what's "responsibly" when it comes to breeding pugs or these? they know they're creating more animals that are inherently prone to severe health issues that make them suffer with age.
@@calisong6554 for one, breeders usually have records of the breeding history of any animals they sell and as such have a record of any health conditions that the bloodline specifically may be predisposed to and also any conditions the breed as a whole is predisposed to. The responsibility angle comes from providing those records to any prospective owners so they know what they’re getting into and those prospective owners knowing the potential health risks they’ll have to manage throughout the animal’s life. In a perfect world we wouldn’t have to worry about issues like this, but we don’t live in a perfect word and instead should deal with the issues responsibly
@@calisong6554 Think of the spiderman quote, "With great power comes great responsibility." I'd say being able to create a whole new breed of animal is qualifies as a greatpower. Responsibility isn't about knowing the consequences of your bad actions, it's about not making bad actions in the first place.
@@calisong6554 yeah pugs genuinely seem like creatures forsaken by god
@@calisong6554 to not make animals that can't live a comfortable life and are in constant pain. Knowing that what you're doing is wrong and not doing anything about it isn't responsibility.
That's sad like really sad, Breed them to have longer legs so their descendants don't have to suffer like they did
Or worse look at pugs. They were decently healthy dogs before they got imbreed so much their lungs barely work anymore wich is why they sound so weird
@@satan3862every gene mutation has to have inbreeding to start it. I used to breed chinchillas and that is how certain colors get started. You have one that has the mutation, then inbreed until you have more. Then you can generally branch out from there once you get it started. This is a common practice.
Btw, animals don't have as severe of issues with inbreeding as humans do. They are more hearty genetically. Animals in the wild inbreed all the time.
@@Karamarika what makes you think i care? All that doesn't change the fact we are literally making animals that can't even fucking breath because 'oh my god its so cute~' there is a difference between breeding and straight up making animal disabled
My dad told me when I was younger the only situation in which it’s okay to adopt a munchkin cat, is if they are being abused, or are going to be bred. He always taught me to think of how genetically cruel breeding animals like these can be 💔
May I say...username checks out? (Taylor Swift owns Scottish Fold cats, who suffer from a disease called osteochondrodysplasia.) I mean, it's great that you care about animal welfare so much, just keep in mind Munchkins are not the only breed with a deformity.
@Lydster05 Oh don’t worry I know! I did reaserch and am gonna avoid any cats that have some sort of genetic condition that causes pain, so pedigrees, scottish folds, munchkins… the reason I only mention munchkins in my comments is because that was the breed they talked about in the vid lol. (TBH never really approved of taylor having scottish folds but hey, she can probably afford to keep ‘em comfortable)
@@That_randomSwiftie That's great! I got 3 out of my 4 via the cat distribution system anyway, and the 4th one I adopted from a relative.
Also yes, she is probably rich enough to pay for all these vet visits her cats are in need of...
@@Lydster05I had a Scottish fold who had a lot of joint problems. I think the breeder I got her from (she was a retired queen - i couldn't afford a kitten at the time) was possibly breeding fold to fold, at least some of the time. She lived to be 16 before we had to put her down due to major organ issues, not because of her joints. She would cry out periodically and would limp and favor one paw. It didn't cost us a lot in vet bills because there isn't really anything they can do. They wouldn't give her pain meds. I tried to give her joint supplements but she wouldn't eat them no matter what I did. In the last couple years she just spent most of her time on her cookie (her cookie shaped bed). Other than that she was a happy enough cat the rest of the time.
@@Karamarika I think it's kinda funny that you don't even seem to know yourself what you actually want to tell me. Just get a kitten from a shelter next time.
breeding those cats is cruel.
"Their short legs come from a mutation in their genes. This genetic mutation is what makes their legs so short."
Hmm, the floor here appears to be made of floor.
I thought EXACTLY the same thing with the picture in my head.
😂 Didn't notice till I read your comment
For real.
I am getting sick of these AI automated contents. They were here just for the money. Sigh....
@@ryannovel8892 i don't think repeating the same sentence twice necessarily means it's A.I. generated content...
i don't think repeating the same sentence twice necessarily means it's A.I. generated content...
Tell that to pug owners...
I don't really know if I'm right but I think it's healthy for them to have short legs
@@TT-sj9ni… did you watch the video
Dude please you want pugs to live in shelters there whole life rather then have a good life even if they have health problems
@@Chickennuggets8282-h4l itd be better if said pug was a different breed… breeders went too far with pugs
Both things can be bad.
Honestly, it's mean that people breed these cats. Selfish capitalism taking advangate of peoples inherent affinity to cuteness.
elegant wording
My cousin wanted one, I was completely against it and showed all the health problems they have and how important that is to understand and create a routine with the right exercises and food to try and make them more comfortable towards the years. She understood and no longer wishes to have a cute cat in detriment of their health.
Love how passionate you are about cats
Of course! We don’t deserve them 🥺
Theyre absolutely SWEETHEARTS! but i still think the breeding of munchkin cats should be stopped, every cat is adorable and a little baby in their own ways, i cant ever handle to see such a cutie in constant pain.
Me sending this to my short friend saying I found their twin-
oh hn jigsaw
Tell them you didn't know they come in cat form
They are not short, only have lowered gravitation center
As a member of the short community, there will be retaliation for this 😂😭
lmao
It´s literally illegal to get them where I live, due to animal protection laws. Maybe that´s something you guys wanna adopt, too.
Illegal to breed or illegal to own?
W laws
@@Professionalexister Breeding is illegal everywhere, owning depens on the state. Some allow it, some only when adopted from shelter and some ban them entirely.
It´s not uniform sadly, same with dogs and the breed lists change, too between the states, cuz why would you want it to be easy or logical. 🙄
a good step. what about pugs?
What is this place? Also, I think they should still be allowed to get them from shelters, since, yk, better life for them and stuff?
Both sides are in the wrong breeders constantly be breeding things that have health problems and will probably die due to certain changes and mutations however the buyers are also a problem because these type of animals are in high demand even though they constantly have to suffer from just existing
i wish people would stop buying from breeders completely. there are so many cats that need rescued
@@scourgatory Agreed it sucks that sometimes the breeders only have that option to keep themselves sustained on money
@@scourgatorythe only problem is people also hate increasing the stray cat population so if we stop breeding cats and also prevent stray cats from mating we will lose the cat population so it is a really tough question
@@SuperFusbass cats are not going fecking extinct.
Scottish Folds are another breed of cat that suffers due to selective breeding. The reason their ears fold is due to osteochondrodysplasia, as it affects the cartilage in the ears, but it also affects the cartilage throughout the rest of their body (like between the joints) and causes side effects like early arthritis.
"look at this cute cat type!"
Awwwww c:
"its every last breath is a reminder that nothing in its life will ever be happy, it is a life of pain and immense discomfort."
Awwww :c
They are very happy cats. I have two of them, and they are no different than my other, long-legged cats. They play, they cuddle, they purr, they climb on stuff - they do everything any other cat does. They don't realize they are any different.
@@Karamarikaand they are very prone to arthritis and deformities to their joints which can cause incredible amounts of pain. So no, they're not "no different than other cats"
It makes them unable to defend them self from other cats
Don't take your cats outside. (yes I don't support the breeding of these cats but this should be the least of your concerns)
@@Wombattuus It's okay to take your cats outside for walks with you, maybe even let them socialize with other cats from a safe distance. Just be there with them in case you need to prevent something.
@@Hmm-p9t Yeah, don't let your cats wander without supervision
You people do realize they are ANIMALS, right? How can you think that kind of behaviour is any different from munchkin breeders? You are intentionally making your pets weaker, trying to breed the wildness out of them. It's down right sick! Let cats be cats.
I understand they have health problems, but they still deserve a home like every other cat.
Edit: I don’t agree with the breeding of these kinds of animals that hurt them for aesthetics, I just think they should still be loved and cared for
They will still be loved and cared for this is about the health problems she is saying that buying one because of its looks is wrong
You can rescue one you can adopt one from another owner you can do many things that don't make breeders and pet shops think that they need to sell more of that breed because you bought from them
oh my god this baby cat and cat is so cute i want tho ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ they look cute❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Cat version of corgis with issues like pugs
Humanity often tries to disappoint one, doesn't it?
These cats should not be promoted, it's horrible
Sausage dog ❌ Sausage cat ☑️
They are the Welsh Corgis of the cat world.
Or pugs
Insert any short legged dog and flatfaced.
Hell pugs cannot give natural birth, they have to be c-sectioned.
Promote mix breeding, bring glory to mutts
@@Real_British Himalayan cat are the pugs of the cat world
woah a mutation? somebody tell the X-Men they got some new recruits
Fr
Master Mold: "Retrieve the mutants."
Sentinels: "Affirmative."
Sentinels: (*arrive later with several hundred munchkin cats*)
Master Mold: "This is what I get for expecting anything of AI."
They're cats and deserve love, but i would never breed one.
I like my cat to be healthy, long lengs, sportive, playful, I'm happy to say that my baby boys are healthier than me at this point 😂❤
If you're planning on getting a cat, please don't get genetically modified cats, most of them suffer health problems because of things like short legs or small noses. Instead, get a normal cat, it can be long-haired, short-haired, doesn't matter.
can i not care for them?
@@whitich8759 Short answer, yes. But adopt from a shelter, and don't buy from a breeder. Buying a munchkin from a breeder supports these unethical breeding practices.
@zikitty1713 you really just shouldn't be buying from breeders most the time anyways.
@@zikitty1713 ehm, i think no? Because if you don't care it is like adopting a child and don't care for it. What does it even mean not care for it?
If you can adopt one from an adoption you can do that you can give them a good like (the best you can do)
The way i see it it is unethically to breed specific traits for pets. Imagine if we did that for people? The latest fashion is to have a child that's 10ft 3 with a curved spine and tiny little t-rex arms. Life for them would be short and hellish but who am i kidding. There are some people with some screws loose who would follow such a disturbing trend because it's popular
You do realize that people with dwarfism have babies, right? They will often even prefer that they have dwarfism. Also, if two people with dwarfism procreate, there is a 25% chance that their child will be double dominant, meaning they got 2 copies of the dwarfism gene. It's lethal. Every time.
Cat breeding and dog breeding for cuteness gets me sick sometimes.
Not even just the smushed in face, either. Some breeds have the heightened risk of a brain too big for the skull (Cavalier King Charles Spaniels), some are known for the likelihood of not being able to eat protein (Dalmations). For English bulldogs, they full-out have to be bred via IVF because they're so heavy that they can break the dam's back. Then on top of that, they have through a c-section for birth because their heads are too large. (The enlarged head is also a risk on Boston Terriers and c-sections are not at all rare for them) Bassett hounds and dachunds are known for back and joint issues. Curled tails like you find on pugs is a risk for being paralyzed. Elbow and hip dysplasia for many breeds, (especially German shepherds, but *far* from the only one). Irish wolfhounds and greyhounds are known for heart issues. Then there's something called spaniel fever. Then we have pulis.. whether you have time for caring for that coat or not, that coat does nothing for them.
People are so caught up in how a pet looks instead of the welfare of that animal. Shows in the behavior of the pet, too. There so many horrible videos of pets online; it's shameful. There are so many of dogs "being cute" by attacking their owners (unsociallized and untrained Chihuahuas with "small dog syndrome"), chasing around/attacking other pets, then you have videos like that guy in a batman mask demanding "where's the catnip" when that cat is full out cowering and *terrified* of him.
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Went on a tangent, but breeding for certain characteristics instead of for their health is getting horrific. So many people do not care about their pets' welfare, only their wish to have a pet for company and possibly just that and just for videos and pictures to share online. Not every owner, of course, but there are thousands.
They're just like me fr 😩
i'm really glad this video covered the health problems associated with munchkins first thing and ended off on the query
tons of people are going to see this
tons of people see and love munchkin content, like Ringo Danyan
it's important that this information is spread as far as the breed's name has
It is concerning regarding their health 😢
If you really get this cat breed purposely and you know all those conditions youre a cruel person
If you're buying them from a breeder rather than adopting (or are the breeder), yeah. Or really any breed of any animal known for having health issues. Super sad that people bring animals into this world just for them to suffer cuz they "look cute" and make money. It's so selfish
@@null.6669 imo if you adopt them and they are still able to make children you're not a bit better than a breeder lol
Poor cats but at least they get to live with pain than never existed
@@masonutb5bg606 ? They have a genetic mutation that is linked to spinal pain and other deformations/health problems
Learn to fact check. short legged cats do not have the same health issues as their dog counterparts, this is because cats have more flexible spines and different muscle structures. they are built to twist while they climb while dogs are built to run long distances. breeding munchkins with other munchkins can result in stillbirths however the breed is as healthy as any other cat breed
source: Veterinary medical guide to dog and cat breeds, 2012, p.550
Imagine breeding dwarfs just for keeping them as "cute" humanoid pets, for their disability O.o
a thing that's happened. royalty is weird.
Now talk about scottish folds
And destroy so many dreams
Yes please I'm ready for this! 100% 💯🫠
So many people choose to ignore the GUARANTEED health issues in favour of "cuteness", it's horrific and drives me absolutely mental with anger when I hear them trying to justify owning one. There's so many channels on tiktok that promote this unhealthy, poor life expectancy kitty. It's like climbing an uphill staircase/ladder that's been greased right now with how popular they've become and how selfish people have grown towards animal welfare
@EarlGreyLattex yeah.. they're actually illegal in the uk
they are cute but that don't justify the breeding of those poor, poor things
@@VanoBlox one good thing the Tory government had done in the last decade and I hate the Tories with a passion so to give them a compliment is HUGE for me ahaha
I really liked this, actually bringing attention to the ethical problems with munchkins unlike so many other videos I've seen. Thank you ❤️ years ago it was being said that munchkins don't have health issues and I immediately thought "that we know of" and "it's just a question of when not if that the breed will have issues specifically due to the characteristic", you just have to look at corgis and dachshunds to see what the long spine short legs combo does to an animal... And how breeders keep denying the problems and thus you shouldn't trust breeders for factual information on the health and well being/quality of life of the breed. I've seen people who breed *British bulldogs* act as if they have any right to speak on the ethics of snake breeding for example, claiming the spider morph in ball pythons with its neurological issues is fine.
thank you for actually being reasonable and encouraging people to have research and an actual discussion about these things.
Was there a spider in that bowl? My heart felt a bit scared. 😂
Remember you don't have to worry about if getting this bread is moral if you adopt
My neighbour's cat had kittens with a feral cat (both domestic short hairs) and one of the kittens ended up having short legs and a short tail. Is that still considered a munchkin cat, or just a genetic mutation? (Kitten is fine and happy)
I love cats❤❤❤
Hehehe
They're so cute, I love how they sit up to see up high, but I bet that's why their backs hurt
Just like pugs: Adopt, don't shop!
I stick with rescues but I stand by the same ful with breeding as I do eith pugs it's a defident no it skes cause them problems I'll rescue any cat but i would never get one from a breeder
Take a shot every time she says “short legs”. Youll be in the hospital pretty quick.
"Their short legs come from a mutation in their genes, this mutation is what makes their legs so short." Yeah no shit
Finally decided to sub,like and share ☺
So, DON'T GET ONE!
awwwww😍😍😍😍 I want one so bad it's so adorable
So they are pugs but cats instead
It's okay to adopt one of these pets, it's not okay to breed one. Ones that already exist need to be given to good homes, but more of them shouldn't be made.
My classmates legs:
So adorable 🐈❤
Fr❤
Adorable little guy. :3
Oh I thought they didn't get the back and joint problems bc their spines are more flexible! Good to know, thanks!
We're here to stop it this time. We must not make another pug species. Please. Stop. Cats are adorable without going overboard like this. No more cuteness required.
So cute... look at those beady eyes!
Personally, I think that the cats shouldn't be bread seen as there's already enough homeless cats in the world and you can see that by just going to any shelter also, we don't want to repeat of the pug
Basically just a guinea pig that can meow at this point
mom "we got a corgi at home"
me huh?
Short is cute 😊❤️
This happens a lot with doxens (also know as weiner dogs or Daschunds). There backs are arched weirdly because they were bred to hunt burrowing small animals like rabbits and there legs are also much shorter to help them fit. While this does help people hunt it also causes really bad back problems for them as they get older
They are so freaking cute tho
Ikr❤
So Cute cats
this also applies to people under 5’6 btw (reliable source)
ill still breed them
This chanel has probably saved hundreds of cats
Most cat breeds have health problems though, even African wild cats, so I’m not sure if there is an answer to if you should or shouldn’t breed them.
My cat was bred to be a mouser and he's unusually intelligent and coyote resistant. I'm pretty sure the breeder did some unethical practices though as she was known to starve her rabbits to make them drought resistant.
Well anything living can have health problems, but we shouldn't be breeding IN health problems. Responsible breeders breed bad genes out.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 your cat is like my dream cat in terms of fur
@@hearala He's my dream cat in terms of fur too. Flame point is my favorite flavor, I can't believe I got one as a birthday present out of the blue from my dad's crazy sister.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 heh! i can keep dreaming about getting a cat sadly. ;-; my mother hates cats and we live in an apartment. Maybe if it was a cat that didn't require as much exercise, but either way literally my whole family would disagree.
They are so cute 🥰 ❤❤❤❤❤
Munchkin cats standing up on their tiny hind legs is a sight I'll never get over. It's just so adorable, they could ask for my credit card information and I would give them 😭
Don’t breed munchkin cats!! And don’t adopt them, either, because that will make people keep breeding them. 💔
If you already have one, give it a good life, and make sure it knows it’s appreciated and loved. 💕
I'm the first to comment on this video
They are all the same to me! 🇨🇳😋🇹🇼
I’m not even a cat person and still Love these videos
its also important to know that 2 munchkin cats cannot be bred together. The babies will not survive.
Munchkin cats❌
Low rider cats✅
Side effects of buying a munchkin cat: the goober counter in your house WILL go up
i have a cat who we think is a mixed breed, munchkin and American short hair, she looks jst like an American short hair, but has very short and stubby legs.
they should really stop puttin jeans on cats smh
This cats is really popular in Korea and china, cause they looks like a toy, but I'm agree with the health problems, if you looking at their life you can see they are really trying so hard just to get active like normal cats.
I'm about to die of cuteness
Munchkin cats sounding kinda relatable
I know someone who breeds small cats (idk what type - they have shorter backs but only slightly smaller legs, more small overall) and she had to put fencing over her garden to stop them from jumping onto the roof! You would NOT think it was possible if you saw these cute little cats
they seem like they are the pugs of the cat world
People owning mutations are the same ones saying “dont get you cat declawed”
Sooooooo cute❤❤❤😊😊
If i ever get a cat, they better have Munchkins.
ofc it's not okay, same for many dog breeds.
Hello, i'm the mister munchkins man, - said the mr munchkins man
Breeders: "Screw the cats. I WANT MONEY! 💰 🤑 "
And that's why there's a place in hell for those people
One of my favorite breed of cats