Ever since I'd left the cult, the former anxieties and worries about congregation and, convention assignments have all gone. Happier with peace of mind and even richer materially. Able to even help real needy ones unlike sending my hard-earned money to watchtower.
The pettiest thing I saw in Bethel was this guy sent home, stripped from all "privileges" (titles), and marked because he "stole" a comb. In reality, he didn't steal anything. He found the comb, and on his way to turn the stupid comb to lost and found, the owner saw him with it, and used his influence to get the kid kicked out of Bethel.
I left around the same time as you, took me a good decade to make up my mind but I’m so happy I did and I’m really happy I get to hear from people who can relate to my experience without any expectations or judgment. Best of luck in your healing journey ! ✨
So glad that you are out! I have a 15 yr. nephew who is third generation JW, and I know he's gay. I hurt for him. He's got nowhere to go, no support. Now that I've been shunned, because of my book and my RUclips channel, I hope he knows that he can turn to me. I have no contact with him. My sister and brother-in-law control his phone and social media accounts.
I was raised in the CULT. As a gay man it was always torture and stressful growing up. I absolutely wouldn't want to live forever with these people. 🤣 The lies and control are beyond imagination.
@@BenFoard Ive been rid of that JWCult for 5 or 6 years now. But, it still creeps up in the back of your mind. Its definitely a healing process that takes time. I just subscribed to your channel and i look forward to watching more content. From Southern Oregon, i got your back!! :)
Much love! And, while not gay, I can relate to growing up hearing that you're just "wrong" for being the way you are in the borg, so no wonder your feelings are all over the place on the matter. :/
Wilf Gooch caught three or four of the lads (one was called Russell) going to support England, at Wembley Stadium, for a midweek game; carrying Flags, etc., and gave them a dressing down!
What great questions (and articulate, fair answers!) but I'm sitting here and can't get past those videos. WHAT THE HECK ARE THOSE?! Holy hell, I'm so glad I missed out on THAT particular experience, I don't think I would have been able to swallow the sheer volume of mansplaining.
I am happy for you! That you are out (in both senses) through with therapy and pursuing your dreams! Even if I will miss your friendly face and kind way to express things, I want you to prioritize Uni first! Always! All the best!!
I'm a 68 year old gay ex-JW and am celebrating my 30 year anniversary of being out, out JW, out gay man. I also felt like the most homophobic gay man when I came out. I was more afraid of drag queens 30 years ago than I was afraid of demons when I was a child. People were dying of AIDS. My masculinity was being questioned (by me of course). But I found wonderful older gay role models, friends and lovers along the way, who all helped me grow. I still never quite feel I fit in in some gay events or clubs. Never really comfortable with the more sex positive people I know. But I am totally comfortable with my life and the freedom to be me and not cover it up. Hang in there!
What does how you screw in bed have anything to do with you not being a JW? Like you don’t see straight JW say “I am a straight JW out of a cult”. It is like gays put how they screw in everyone’s face not realizing it only matters to their sex partner. And of course feel free to say this is homophobic and paint me a villain while ignoring the valid point I made. 😆
people still die from aids?? cov 19 didnt make it go Away i was told by a priest who is not a Jehovah witness that Jehovah created aids jehovah wins!! chimps and MEN 1800s and a man named Gaetan Dagas who was Canadian flight attendant who infected 250 MEN john 8:44 i wonder if anyone in the org has aids you would never know who is hiding in the Dark spooky scary world,keep it in your pants and stay safe!!
Your responses come across as very honest and genuine. Some ex JW's have an axe to grind and only look to find faults and report it. You are calling it as you saw and interpreted it. A BIG thank-you from Australia.
I haven't watched ex-jw videos for a few months. I watched yours and another today. Then I go to work at my restaurant job. I live in the midst of Patterson and Walkill Bethel sites. I wait on a group of 7. I ask what brought them all out together. 'We were having a family reunion one woman said. This couple is visiting from Taiwan.' The visiting couple appeared to be from the US. I ask where they are from in this area. They said they grew up around Pine Bush and Walkill. I can usually spot JWs in my restaurant immediately. Over the years we have gotten many. Bus groups, jws coming in to eat on their way to the Newburgh Assembly Hall. One time there were even two Governing Body members, Samuel Herd and Mark Sanderson, and perhaps their wives, dining at my restaurant! It was QUITE triggering at times. But since the pandemic, thankfully there haven't been many jws in my restaurant. But as soon as this woman said Pine Bush/Walkill, I thought hmmm, wait a minute. The couple were perhaps missionaries or someone who was part of the Taiwan Branch Committee. They were having a 'family reunion' because they are all 'brothers and sisters' Why couldn't they just say they were jws! Thankfully they didn't attempt to witness to me or leave literature. In that setting I don't usually tell them that I am an ex-jw.
How dare you focus on university instead of making videos! 😃 You're naturally photogenic and love your voice... do them when you can. I always learn something when I watch them.
I’m so glad to hear Bethel stories! Great idea doing it like this! Another idea I just thought of, is having a zoom interview with another Bethelite and maybe different branches, and then answering questions like this...That would even be cool but this one is really great! If you cannot because I heard right now you’re doing University, well that’s fine. Just putting it out there for a future idea 😃So, what are you studying? I majored in Archeology/linguistics. Later I can mention what happened after my JW mother kept guilt tripping me, egging my Ministerial Servant twin brother on, to get to me! Anyway am sorry they made you all have to live in authentic life there! Am so glad you’re out, LOVE HOW YOU TACKLE THE JW EXPERIENCE!
Hey! Great video, thank you for the insight into the closed world of Bethel, very enlightening. I was a regular pioneer and ministerial servant in a French congregation in the midlands. I've been out of the organisation and out as gay for about 6 years now but I've never reached out to ex JWs with similar experiences. If anyone knows of any meetups in London for queer ex JWs I would be very interested in building friendships with people that know where I am coming from. I've managed to build a chosen family of my own outside of the organisation but I think that exchanging stories with other ex JWs would be a very healing experience.
I know Paul Gillies well. We had special meal together, Bethel meetings and I was mildly involved with one of his video projects. The stories...oh the stories!
Your answer to that last question of how is it to be a gay man out of the organisation made me laugh. When you said,"On the whole it feels great to be out". I started laughing and I was like,"Yah I bet it does feel better, "On the Hole" 🤣 I'm sorry... It just reminded me of the Austin Powers scene where Dr. Evil talks about his evil plan. His plan that he entitled,"Preparation H". Then he says that,"On the whole it feels great". 😂🤣
In regards to the reimburstment that the GB would get for any expenditures they might make, I wonder how Tony Morris would explain spending 800.00 dollars US for 8 bottles or so of McCllenan whiskey which he purchased on a Sunday morning during meeting hours alllegedly. The video might prove more convincing it's available on youtube.
I was raised as a Christian so when an online friend asked me if I wanted to do some Bible study, I said sure. He's a very sharp guy and knows The Bible like the back of his hand. Then one day he asked if I knew the name of God. I said sure, it's Jehovah. He slowly tried to ease me into his thinking. I did some research on these guys and saw a ton of "I escaped JW" Nothing positive. These guys are after me big time now. I was invited over to my local JW hall to learn more about "What I'm getting into". Huge red flag that statement. They asked for my phone number...sadly I gave it to them. Now they call all the time, ask to come over to my home to give out their study book. I actually went over and picked up a New world translation. When I started doing study with these guys we only read from the watch tower. Very nice people and inviting people of course...I'm supposed to have another study with them this evening...However I'm about to break all ties before I get too deep in this. Good luck to everybody that made it out. It seems to me like a water downed version of Jim Jones.
When a cult claims that the nameless God's name is Jehovah, and Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel and makes up its own translation as it suits them, "NWT" Take heed because only Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
When visited at my door by JW's , I used to mention my disapproval of the multiple false predictions, shunning, CSA , mistakes covered up by "new light", etc. It got too extensive. I now shut the conversation down by only saying I don't believe that "Jehovah" is God's actual proper name then let them figure it out, while pushing aside their scripted topic. Where , when , by who & what language did the name "Jehovah" come into existence?
I think you are lovely and your videos are awesome. I wish you the best for your transitioning. You are deserving of the greatest gift... freedom and authentic love.
Anytime a JW comes to my door, I always ask them "How many false prophies has your organization had? And what does the bible say about how you should treat a false prophet"? They don't like those questions and always quickly leave.
I have a question for you. Any JW who went to Bethel must have thought that Armageddon was less than five years away. You wouldn't go to Bethel if you honestly believed that Armageddon was ten, twenty, or thirty years away. Is that correct? After all, JWs have been saying that Armageddon is just around the corner for decades.
Just in case by telling you that your beard looked bad, that you might have believed that man who said it...Not true! It looks perfectly fine and it makes me think that guy was just jealous or maybe even mad HE didn’t get to go on vacation! lol
Beards alone prove the hypocrisy of the organisation The Bible says Jehovah doesn’t change, his thinking has always and will always remain the same, yet everyone in the Bible has a beard and it was also forbidden under the Mosaic Law to shave one’s Beard, fast forward to modern day and brothers are told and highly discouraged from having a beard it is also widely known that a brother with a beard cannot have any part at any assembly whether a public part or behind the scenes if he has a beard. So the question is if Jehovah doesn’t change then you can’t escape the fact that they have brought man’s teaching into the supposed Godly Inspired Truth, and they obey Men rather than God.
Phil Rees had to leave the London Bethel and return to Australia after serving as the Branch Servant for years, replacing the anointed Pryce Hughes. Phil was very helpful to me; and I will not say anything bad about him. Ron Drage said-allegedly-it was the saddest day of his life driving Phil and his wife to the airport in order to return to Australia.
Alcoholism is a illness and individual should be helped and not be DF by elders who do not understand the illness but are always quick to condemn. When they should find out more admit they do not understand. But that's the way they are judgmental and cruel.
Felt like watching drag queen content with all the bleeping. That cracked me up. Would love for someone to cut together an episode of Unhhhh and the pillowgate content. (Wrote that before hearing your continued struggle with internalized homophobia. But maybe it would even be a helpful exercise.)
If I had been at any bethel head quarters I would have worn some sort of queer garb some how lol. Not sure what it would have been but would have looked long and hard for something. Just my luck some higher up would have recognized it lol. Hopefully they would have just winked at me rather then call me out on it. :p
I believe that I know the most closet h(Beep!)phobic J-Dub member. He climbed the theocratic ladder and became a Circuit Overseer. He is still inside the cult. I wonder how he felt after Lett's talk about being given 100 years to abandon your inclinations in paradise.
Aww I love lloyd evens I will watch his videos forever he is thebest youtuber for information about the JW organization...! People need to get over that and get on with their lives way to much hate !....great channel wishing you all thebest in your future...
@@portiasnyder1812 lol I like him too. I just wondered what was going on with Ben as I seem to remember seeing a comment somewhere that there had been a falling out
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
When you are born again something spectacular happens but you need to turn away completely from sin to experience this 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 John 14:21, 23 (KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 1st corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Even though I'm on my way out............the Bible, all translations are correct............ homosexuality is ungodly. Aside from that, freedom is a beautiful thing.
Ever since I'd left the cult, the former anxieties and worries about congregation and, convention assignments have all gone. Happier with peace of mind and even richer materially. Able to even help real needy ones unlike sending my hard-earned money to watchtower.
Vaughn Woss? Yes! That is YAHbsolutely YAHsome 🔥🎶💐🕊️🎶♥️!
happy gay to you!!
The pettiest thing I saw in Bethel was this guy sent home, stripped from all "privileges" (titles), and marked because he "stole" a comb. In reality, he didn't steal anything. He found the comb, and on his way to turn the stupid comb to lost and found, the owner saw him with it, and used his influence to get the kid kicked out of Bethel.
Oh, for crying out loud. It was just a comb ...and a used comb at that! They are diabolical when it comes to getting what they want.
Well if you think about it, this is soooo petty that it might of saved the lad from continuing with the cult! Hope he woke up!!
@@Valutions - He didn't. He is very much still in.
@@EfrainRiveraJunior Poor soul! 😢
I hope that that kid finally realised how blessed he was for getting kicked out.
I left around the same time as you, took me a good decade to make up my mind but I’m so happy I did and I’m really happy I get to hear from people who can relate to my experience without any expectations or judgment. Best of luck in your healing journey ! ✨
so now your in more crap buckle up its not over!! next few years will blow your mind!!
Loving your beard Ben.
Thank youuuuuu
I was going to say the same thing. The facial hit really suits you!
So glad that you are out! I have a 15 yr. nephew who is third generation JW, and I know he's gay. I hurt for him. He's got nowhere to go, no support. Now that I've been shunned, because of my book and my RUclips channel, I hope he knows that he can turn to me. I have no contact with him. My sister and brother-in-law control his phone and social media accounts.
I was raised in the CULT. As a gay man it was always torture and stressful growing up. I absolutely wouldn't want to live forever with these people. 🤣 The lies and control are beyond imagination.
Good job we don't have to ;P
@@BenFoard Ive been rid of that JWCult for 5 or 6 years now. But, it still creeps up in the back of your mind. Its definitely a healing process that takes time. I just subscribed to your channel and i look forward to watching more content. From Southern Oregon, i got your back!! :)
Much love! And, while not gay, I can relate to growing up hearing that you're just "wrong" for being the way you are in the borg, so no wonder your feelings are all over the place on the matter. :/
Good for you getting out! I was in for 23-24 years. Managed to get out w no DF but was difficult.
Nothing but love Ben😊
Fabulous Vid, TY! So happy for you!
💜 from the Midwest, USA.
Freedom looks good on you! Enjoy Uni and your new life! Love hearing your experiences while at Bethel, but glad to hear your focusing on Uni.
Just found your channel and subbed. Love from Kentucky 💙
Fascinating take on the GB and GB helpers . Wonderful video 🤗
Wilf Gooch caught three or four of the lads (one was called Russell) going to support England, at Wembley Stadium, for a midweek game; carrying Flags, etc., and gave them a dressing down!
I agree it is the internal struggle that remains, no matter how irrational it may be.
What great questions (and articulate, fair answers!) but I'm sitting here and can't get past those videos. WHAT THE HECK ARE THOSE?! Holy hell, I'm so glad I missed out on THAT particular experience, I don't think I would have been able to swallow the sheer volume of mansplaining.
Well done Big Ben! Appreciate you sharing "The Inside Story".
I’m so glad I never went to bethel when I was in the cult. Definitely dodged a bullet there.
Thank you for your honestly. We all wanted to go to Bethel and love to hear all about it from peeps like yourself :)
Great to see you again
Great video Ben! So happy for you to be living the best life!!!
I am happy for you! That you are out (in both senses) through with therapy and pursuing your dreams! Even if I will miss your friendly face and kind way to express things, I want you to prioritize Uni first! Always! All the best!!
I'm a 68 year old gay ex-JW and am celebrating my 30 year anniversary of being out, out JW, out gay man. I also felt like the most homophobic gay man when I came out. I was more afraid of drag queens 30 years ago than I was afraid of demons when I was a child. People were dying of AIDS. My masculinity was being questioned (by me of course). But I found wonderful older gay role models, friends and lovers along the way, who all helped me grow. I still never quite feel I fit in in some gay events or clubs. Never really comfortable with the more sex positive people I know. But I am totally comfortable with my life and the freedom to be me and not cover it up. Hang in there!
What does how you screw in bed have anything to do with you not being a JW? Like you don’t see straight JW say “I am a straight JW out of a cult”. It is like gays put how they screw in everyone’s face not realizing it only matters to their sex partner. And of course feel free to say this is homophobic and paint me a villain while ignoring the valid point I made. 😆
Who all different churches including exjws are serving according to the Bible??????
people still die from aids?? cov 19 didnt make it go Away i was told by a priest who is not a Jehovah witness that Jehovah created aids jehovah wins!! chimps and MEN 1800s and a man named Gaetan Dagas who was Canadian flight attendant who infected 250 MEN john 8:44 i wonder if anyone in the org has aids you would never know who is hiding in the Dark spooky scary world,keep it in your pants and stay safe!!
Wow Ben, you wear a beard very well!
Your responses come across as very honest and genuine. Some ex JW's have an axe to grind and only look to find faults and report it. You are calling it as you saw and interpreted it. A BIG thank-you from Australia.
The pillow gate “brother” reminds me of the evil priest in the Disney movie The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
I haven't watched ex-jw videos for a few months. I watched yours and another today. Then I go to work at my restaurant job. I live in the midst of Patterson and Walkill Bethel sites. I wait on a group of 7. I ask what brought them all out together. 'We were having a family reunion one woman said. This couple is visiting from Taiwan.' The visiting couple appeared to be from the US. I ask where they are from in this area. They said they grew up around Pine Bush and Walkill. I can usually spot JWs in my restaurant immediately. Over the years we have gotten many. Bus groups, jws coming in to eat on their way to the Newburgh Assembly Hall. One time there were even two Governing Body members, Samuel Herd and Mark Sanderson, and perhaps their wives, dining at my restaurant! It was QUITE triggering at times. But since the pandemic, thankfully there haven't been many jws in my restaurant. But as soon as this woman said Pine Bush/Walkill, I thought hmmm, wait a minute. The couple were perhaps missionaries or someone who was part of the Taiwan Branch Committee. They were having a 'family reunion' because they are all 'brothers and sisters' Why couldn't they just say they were jws! Thankfully they didn't attempt to witness to me or leave literature. In that setting I don't usually tell them that I am an ex-jw.
How dare you focus on university instead of making videos! 😃
You're naturally photogenic and love your voice... do them when you can. I always learn something when I watch them.
creepy as!!
I’m so glad to hear Bethel stories! Great idea doing it like this! Another idea I just thought of, is having a zoom interview with another Bethelite and maybe different branches, and then answering questions like this...That would even be cool but this one is really great! If you cannot because I heard right now you’re doing University, well that’s fine. Just putting it out there for a future idea 😃So, what are you studying? I majored in Archeology/linguistics. Later I can mention what happened after my JW mother kept guilt tripping me, egging my Ministerial Servant twin brother on, to get to me!
Anyway am sorry they made you all have to live in authentic life there!
Am so glad you’re out, LOVE HOW YOU TACKLE THE JW EXPERIENCE!
Ben ...welcome back. Been wondering how you have been ? Hope you are happy and healthy. Hello from Australia
Hey! Great video, thank you for the insight into the closed world of Bethel, very enlightening. I was a regular pioneer and ministerial servant in a French congregation in the midlands. I've been out of the organisation and out as gay for about 6 years now but I've never reached out to ex JWs with similar experiences. If anyone knows of any meetups in London for queer ex JWs I would be very interested in building friendships with people that know where I am coming from. I've managed to build a chosen family of my own outside of the organisation but I think that exchanging stories with other ex JWs would be a very healing experience.
Hit me up dude, let’s get something going. 💪🏻🏳️🌈 youtube@benfoard.com
@@BenFoard EWWW!
You look so good with a beard.
🥺🥺 Dankeschön 🧔🏻♂️
Thanks so much for your shared information..things I’ve always wondered about..I enjoy your videos so much
Love this ❤️❤️ I had only wanted to go to Bethel because I was conditioned to think it’d make me happier. Glad to see you thriving. ❤️
leaving some love. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
nice job dude
The beeping makes it 10 times funnier.
Amazing video !!!
Glad you liked it!
Who all different churches including exjws are serving according to the Bible?????
@@BenFoard Who all different churches including exjws are serving according to the Bible????????
Ben you are my second favorite rabid apostate, may the algo bless you ❤
Love the beeps bro. 😂
You're the best BEN! I want to know more about your exit plan. I have none, I just want to be honest and go no strings attached!
Definitely on the agenda to go over that :)
great video Ben!! It's impressive how you keep pumping out those videos 💪😊
Fun fact Paul Gillis (Bethel bigwig) was assigned to my congregation back when I was a JW.
I know Paul Gillies well. We had special meal together, Bethel meetings and I was mildly involved with one of his video projects. The stories...oh the stories!
@@BenFoard spill
Paul was the Overseer when I was there in the 1970s.
Paul Gillies must be almost fifty years in the London Bethel.
Your answer to that last question of how is it to be a gay man out of the organisation made me laugh. When you said,"On the whole it feels great to be out".
I started laughing and I was like,"Yah I bet it does feel better, "On the Hole" 🤣
I'm sorry... It just reminded me of the Austin Powers scene where Dr. Evil talks about his evil plan. His plan that he entitled,"Preparation H". Then he says that,"On the whole it feels great". 😂🤣
Good for you. Live your life and make new friends
Love the beard
I am an Puerto Rico Ex-Bethelite. There was no drinking whatsoever (that I knew of). It was very strict.
In Puerto Rico? The land of Baracardi!?? No way! U know they snuck in alcohol! I know I wld of. Lol!! Yea! I’m Rican!
@@Valutions - While I was there I never heard of alcohol snuck it, but it doesn't surprise me 🤣
The Mailing Department was-allegedly-toxic in the 1970s when a Scot, from Edinburgh, was in charge of it.
In regards to the reimburstment that the GB would get for any expenditures they might make, I wonder how Tony Morris would explain spending 800.00 dollars US for 8 bottles or so of McCllenan whiskey which he purchased on a Sunday morning during meeting hours alllegedly. The video might prove more convincing it's available on youtube.
Again, financial gifts happen all the time when you’re well known.
I was raised as a Christian so when an online friend asked me if I wanted to do some Bible study, I said sure. He's a very sharp guy and knows The Bible like the back of his hand. Then one day he asked if I knew the name of God. I said sure, it's Jehovah. He slowly tried to ease me into his thinking. I did some research on these guys and saw a ton of "I escaped JW" Nothing positive. These guys are after me big time now. I was invited over to my local JW hall to learn more about "What I'm getting into". Huge red flag that statement. They asked for my phone number...sadly I gave it to them. Now they call all the time, ask to come over to my home to give out their study book. I actually went over and picked up a New world translation. When I started doing study with these guys we only read from the watch tower. Very nice people and inviting people of course...I'm supposed to have another study with them this evening...However I'm about to break all ties before I get too deep in this. Good luck to everybody that made it out. It seems to me like a water downed version of Jim Jones.
When a cult claims that the nameless God's name is Jehovah, and Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel and makes up its own translation as it suits them, "NWT" Take heed because only Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
When visited at my door by JW's , I used to mention my disapproval of the multiple false predictions, shunning, CSA , mistakes covered up by "new light", etc. It got too extensive. I now shut the conversation down by only saying I don't believe that "Jehovah" is God's actual proper name then let them figure it out, while pushing aside their scripted topic. Where , when , by who & what language did the name "Jehovah" come into existence?
I find the easiest yet polite way is asking them when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians then asking them to google it in front of you.
yo nice beard ben
Ah, the WEL man again! The beard suits you well. Greetings from Germany!
I think you are lovely and your videos are awesome. I wish you the best for your transitioning. You are deserving of the greatest gift... freedom and authentic love.
Beard looks good on you.
Thank youuuuu
Anytime a JW comes to my door, I always ask them "How many false prophies has your organization had? And what does the bible say about how you should treat a false prophet"? They don't like those questions and always quickly leave.
Good stuff, glad you got out.
Your beard looks much better than the beard of Charles Taze Russel, the founder of the JW cult.
What is going on holiday? Is that code for vacation?
I’m British. Sorry 😂
The apology was en pointe. Thanks for the laugh
I have a question for you. Any JW who went to Bethel must have thought that Armageddon was less than five years away. You wouldn't go to Bethel if you honestly believed that Armageddon was ten, twenty, or thirty years away. Is that correct? After all, JWs have been saying that Armageddon is just around the corner for decades.
Who all different churches including exjws are serving according to the Bible??????
I was counseled for wearing blue eye shadow. They said that’s the color prostitutes wear.
Flipping heck
QUESTION: To your knowledge, is Pillowgate still used in Bethel, after it was leaked?
All new Bethellites must watch the appropriate video yep.
@@BenFoard - I was a Bethelite before that video existed. I wonder what my reaction would've been. 🤪😜
Just in case by telling you that your beard looked bad, that you might have believed that man who said it...Not true! It looks perfectly fine and it makes me think that guy was just jealous or maybe even mad HE didn’t get to go on vacation! lol
Beards alone prove the hypocrisy of the organisation The Bible says Jehovah doesn’t change, his thinking has always and will always remain the same, yet everyone in the Bible has a beard and it was also forbidden under the Mosaic Law to shave one’s Beard, fast forward to modern day and brothers are told and highly discouraged from having a beard it is also widely known that a brother with a beard cannot have any part at any assembly whether a public part or behind the scenes if he has a beard. So the question is if Jehovah doesn’t change then you can’t escape the fact that they have brought man’s teaching into the supposed Godly Inspired Truth, and they obey Men rather than God.
I knew a London Bethelite who was kicked out for his alcoholism. He was such a sweet lad.
Phil Rees had to leave the London Bethel and return to Australia after serving as the Branch Servant for years, replacing the anointed Pryce
Hughes.
Phil was very helpful to me; and I will not say anything bad about him.
Ron Drage said-allegedly-it was the saddest day of his life driving Phil and his wife to the airport in order to return to Australia.
Alcoholism is a illness and individual should be helped and not be DF by elders who do not understand the illness but are always quick to condemn.
When they should find out more admit they do not understand. But that's the way they are judgmental and cruel.
3:37 that is such a detailed question hahhaha
12:50 🤮 well, of course they're also sexist
love your bravado ...My Question ....Do you still believe in the Creator ....?.......I do ....just to be upfront 🤔
Tony Morris should be dissfellowshipped for being a Lush.
How were you a "Elder".... so young..... isn't that totally opposite of the meaning elders and older men
@John S. 约翰·萨拉 ຈອນ ສາລາ comparing one cult to another....is not a comparison
Don’t stop “preaching”!
What region were you raised in? Your "TH"S sound like "F"s & "V"s, and your "R"s more like "W"s.
@22:21 Alt-worldly is a quantifiable behind 🕳, delusional, idiotic, sexually perverted, weird and bizarre. I cut that off my videos-list. 😆
Do you still have faith in God ? Did you think u had a personal relationship with him when you were a jw?
Felt like watching drag queen content with all the bleeping. That cracked me up. Would love for someone to cut together an episode of Unhhhh and the pillowgate content.
(Wrote that before hearing your continued struggle with internalized homophobia. But maybe it would even be a helpful exercise.)
I don't recall any pranks played... ever. We all felt superior to others.
If I had been at any bethel head quarters I would have worn some sort of queer garb some how lol.
Not sure what it would have been but would have looked long and hard for something. Just my luck some higher up would have recognized it lol.
Hopefully they would have just winked at me rather then call me out on it. :p
Jake, from Alt...whatever is either by or closet gay. I pity the Wifey a bit; then again, She may like it so...
I believe that I know the most closet h(Beep!)phobic J-Dub member. He climbed the theocratic ladder and became a Circuit Overseer. He is still inside the cult. I wonder how he felt after Lett's talk about being given 100 years to abandon your inclinations in paradise.
Was he interviewed recently for the Gilead graduation?
@@MM-lk1cz - No; he was later stripped of his titles.
@@EfrainRiveraJunior oh got it.
And now that you're out of the cult you know men can get pregnant
Galatians 5:17-21 selfish desires!!
Ur exbethelitelder?
Not the mysterious Reddit person, no. Just another ex-Bethel Elder 👌🏻
What's your relationship now with he who shall not be named.....err......LE?
Great question. Look out for my answer in part two… 😜
Aww I love lloyd evens I will watch his videos forever he is thebest youtuber for information about the JW organization...! People need to get over that and get on with their lives way to much hate !....great channel wishing you all thebest in your future...
@@portiasnyder1812 lol I like him too. I just wondered what was going on with Ben as I seem to remember seeing a comment somewhere that there had been a falling out
this feels like more of a Gay dating site god help you!! i bet you dont sleep at night!!
It makes sense that you would know what gay dating sites are like. I hope you let go of your internalized hatred one day.
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( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
Quran 5 48
''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
Islam mean "submission" to God
( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )
God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
Question to Muslim and Christian:
Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
When you are born again something spectacular happens but you need to turn away completely from sin to experience this
👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
John 14:21, 23 (KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
1st corinthians 6:9-10
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Are you still a disciple of Jesus?
Jake & I discuss this theme on the next episode of our Second School podcast :)
@@BenFoard 👍
Even though I'm on my way out............the Bible, all translations are correct............ homosexuality is ungodly.
Aside from that, freedom is a beautiful thing.