Unless something changed between the years, "B" is purely for engine braking which is actually the opposite of what you would want to do for an uphill climb.
@@aluisious If you want the Prius to be more responsive, choose Power Mode, not B mode. Using B mode going up hill is only to wear your engine faster. Unnecessary.
Not sure if this works on the 4th generation prius. But on previous cars if you want to manually charge the battery all the way up. The procedure is put it in drive press the brake pedal hard and floor the gas pedal the engine will rev up and charge the Hybrid battery until it reaches full capacity. As the battery increases in charge the engine speed will reduce and eventually go back to idle. This can be handy if you need to do some testing for acceleration. the car is really not designed to do continuous high power output it's designed as a temporary container for energy in stop and go traffic. So if you want to do a zero to 60 run several times in a row for testing purposes or a lap at a racetrack or something like that. It gives you a way to charge the battery all the way up or at least get it back to a level that's more normal. The car behaves radically different with a full or normal charge versus completely empty as Kyle found out climbing the mountain once that battery is depleted it's pretty slow.
I believe B mode was made for long downhills to try to maintain speeds without killing your brakes. Too much unnecessary use stresses out the hybrid system.
Kyle, FWIW, I've put my Gen4 2017 Prius on the dyno and unsurprisingly had little to no drive-train losses! Got about 110hp and 221ft-lbs of torque! The dyno's power curve for the torque pretty much shot straight up from nearly 0 RPM lol.
So it is. My Toyota hybrid has a pretty small traction battery, and it’s easily charged up on longish downhill stretches of road, so no regen braking left further downhill. Thus there are places where I do use B mode to avoid this - or one is back to friction brakes only, on the way down, with the extra wear and tear and the classic ‘hot brakes’ issue on certain roads. Just like using low gears on manual gearbox cars.
7 HP is the power of the electric motor, the important part is ; it produces 43 Lb/ft torque, u can get different torque from the same motor by adding or re designing the gear system, so, basically 43 lb/ft torque is plenty torque to get u out of snow, I’ve driven 2nd gen and also 4th gen which was 2018, finally I got the 2022 awd, tested in Chicago snow, amazing performance, never got stuck in snow, no problem taking off when it’s green light at the intersection, unplowed parking lot, untouched local streets, I’d definitely recommend it , I wish Toyota makes every hybrid car awd-e as a standard, and remote start as a standard.
Lost the audio on your first dedicated pedal up regen attempt on the straight away but it did pick up after about 30 seconds. I think this would qualify possibly for those that have to be limited because of driving offenses. You know like three speeding tickets we take your license unless you’re drive a Prius for a year.😏 Like the liquor sickles.😁
Good fun to watch. Not clear what the altitude is on that journey, but if the Prius has a naturally aspirated engine (like the baby Yaris which I have), that will have had a significant effect on it’s power. Reminded me of climbing up a road in the Savoie mountains in South East France a few years ago, in an old lowish power diesel car, at around 6000 feet or so; not nice.
I test drove two of them in 2019. Very tempting to buy. I would go for the white base model. It was a 100 degrees when I test drove both colors and for some reason the solid white Prius was much much colder. It felt like the way your weather is now!! My glasses fogged up too. The new design isn’t all that bad either. The Prius prime is hideous looking. I always went for the more expensive models of cars but this time I would go for the cheapest base model. I was seriously considering a Chevy bolt as well. It would be nice to rid of gasoline and oil 100% though. But I also want a car to last a long time. Prius has proven that. For now I’m just watching videos like yours lol. Starting over on a new car loan isn’t appealing at all right now.
As a former 2nd gen and plug in prius owner, I have to disagree. Terrible ride. I'm sure this newer generation is better, but since I have been averaging 42mpg in a RAV4 hybrid for a year and a half in New England, I would highly recommend that as a commuter over a Prius.
That's because it's up higher and closer to the windshield more in your field of view. Particularly the second generation Prius it's almost directly in front of you just below the bottom of the glass of the windshield. The model 3 is to the right of your steering wheel and the number is significantly smaller.
That is why the digital speed control is so great. Just feather it up or down a few mph plus with a Gen 4 it falls i line with the vehicle or Amish Buggy ahead of me.
toyota says in the owners book . don't floor the gas pedal . He doesn't know anything about toyota hybrids . he is an EV guy . he is destroying this Prius
You are in B mode which is a "downshift" and meant for downhill engine breaking- so of course it seems "gutless". You misunderstand what B mode is for. Out of B mode, it will accelerate more normally. It's not meant to be driven this way. You are overstressing the gas engine. Foolishness and not proving anything. Poor assessment.
Toyota just can't let go of ICE. They better get some new product managers installed fast if they want to survive into the next decade. GM and Ford will continue to have the income stream from heavy trucks but Toyota better fix their crystal ball. And WOW, that droning engine is soooooo annoying! People complain about long range EV's stopping to charge but can you imagine driving this car across the country???
Toyota builds what people actually want to buy in enough quantity that it's profitable to do so. Toyota sells 10.6 million cars per year.. I would not worry about them going out of business. The engine is droning at high RPM because he's climbing a mountain.. seems pretty obvious. At steady state 85 miles per hour on a straight flat highway you cannot hear the engine. The engine will rev up if you put your foot in it and have to pass somebody. Then slows down back to quiet. I have an old 2ng gen prius.. I can drive 340 miles nonstop at 85 mph before I even hit the reserve of my 12 gallon gas tank. Which leaves me with 3 gallons that I could theoretically drive another 115 miles. Full tank to absolutely empty is 456 mi. At 85 mph. Driving mixed speeds of city and highway (48mpg) I have a full range of 560 miles. It then takes 3 minutes to fill the tank back up. For fast road tripping it's one of the best cars out there. Has enough room to do car camping in it at least for one person..You can easily sleep in the back woth the seats folded. My personal total cost is $0.07 per mile. That's fuel , all maintenance fluids done by me, and tires. Oh yeah and I bought the car for $2,000 with 200,000 miles on it, and in the last 3 years I've put 150,000 miles MORE on it. Now have 355,000 miles total. EVS are great they're fun and they are certainly the future eventually. Until then I'll be financially smart and continue to buy Toyota products. and Toyota is going to be smart and continue to sell vehicles that people actually want to buy.
2017 Prius with 190,000 miles. As far NW as Prince Rupert BC, 1800 miles in Mexico to Durango. (It hated low octane gas and high elevation) 2022 I hope to finally make Yellowknife with it. Cabin noise is about the same as a Corolla.(Not good) My complaint: low profile the plastic belly plates just takes a beating. I vote grill guard and metal front bumper skin and metal skid plates. Engine noise goes away when a Harley Davidson passes you. Plus I would love to find a upper Midwest Toyota dealer that will work on one. Just a joke.
Not really. Kyle seems to be having fun even though it's slow doesn't he? and for a daily driver going to and from work or using for rideshare it's probably the best car out there. Small enough to be easy to drive has a great turning radius tons of cargo and decent back seat room. Almost as efficient cost-wise as an EV. Especially when you factor the purchase price. Go and drive one for a week use it as your daily vehicle and see what you think. Powerful enough under normal driving conditions, quiet, maneuverable, practical, reliable. Kind of seems like a perfect daily driver to me. I've got a 2008 myself. 355,000 miles on it. Car cost me 7 cents per mile. That's fuel all maintenance and tires.
@@hockeyno93 Model Y is nice.. for sure. But I'm not spending $50k to save gas money. The math does NOT work.. When I compare a new Model 3 LR $48k vs a new loaded Prius $30k Driving 50,000 miles per year the break even point is 10+ years. Before I save the $18k difference in price. I don't care about performance... Just comfortable, reliable, practical. Just a tool for a job for me.
Unless something changed between the years, "B" is purely for engine braking which is actually the opposite of what you would want to do for an uphill climb.
It could help keep the revs up for more responsiveness when getting on the gas going uphill, but it’s going to burn more gas doing so.
@@aluisious If you want the Prius to be more responsive, choose Power Mode, not B mode. Using B mode going up hill is only to wear your engine faster. Unnecessary.
I think using B mode going up hill full throttle was a mistake
Not sure if this works on the 4th generation prius. But on previous cars if you want to manually charge the battery all the way up. The procedure is put it in drive press the brake pedal hard and floor the gas pedal the engine will rev up and charge the Hybrid battery until it reaches full capacity. As the battery increases in charge the engine speed will reduce and eventually go back to idle.
This can be handy if you need to do some testing for acceleration. the car is really not designed to do continuous high power output it's designed as a temporary container for energy in stop and go traffic. So if you want to do a zero to 60 run several times in a row for testing purposes or a lap at a racetrack or something like that. It gives you a way to charge the battery all the way up or at least get it back to a level that's more normal. The car behaves radically different with a full or normal charge versus completely empty as Kyle found out climbing the mountain once that battery is depleted it's pretty slow.
I believe B mode was made for long downhills to try to maintain speeds without killing your brakes. Too much unnecessary use stresses out the hybrid system.
It will not stress the hybrid system. It will use more gas.
When you're in B mode you don't maximize regen.
if you haven't understood to set Power mode to recharge the battery, instead of B mode it means you don't know enough the Toyota hybrid...
Not the best car out there for all people, but man as a commuter car that you do not care that much about, perfect!
Kyle, FWIW, I've put my Gen4 2017 Prius on the dyno and unsurprisingly had little to no drive-train losses! Got about 110hp and 221ft-lbs of torque! The dyno's power curve for the torque pretty much shot straight up from nearly 0 RPM lol.
The B gear is traditionally used for downhill or assisted braking when required. Perhaps you should have done the uphill portion in normal D ✌🏽
So it is. My Toyota hybrid has a pretty small traction battery, and it’s easily charged up on longish downhill stretches of road, so no regen braking left further downhill. Thus there are places where I do use B mode to avoid this - or one is back to friction brakes only, on the way down, with the extra wear and tear and the classic ‘hot brakes’ issue on certain roads. Just like using low gears on manual gearbox cars.
The XLE "advanced technology" awd Prius in Canada gets the bigger touch screen. I chose the LE because I don't need all the extra gadgets and expense.
The Prius is good for getting rid of depression. Kyle couldn't stop laughing.
Pushing the limits of slow cars is fun.
Driving uphill with engine braking on is fun? I'm going to try that.
Doesn't it have charge mode? Where it constantly tops up battery?
7 HP is the power of the electric motor, the important part is ; it produces 43 Lb/ft torque, u can get different torque from the same motor by adding or re designing the gear system, so, basically 43 lb/ft torque is plenty torque to get u out of snow, I’ve driven 2nd gen and also 4th gen which was 2018, finally I got the 2022 awd, tested in Chicago snow, amazing performance, never got stuck in snow, no problem taking off when it’s green light at the intersection, unplowed parking lot, untouched local streets, I’d definitely recommend it , I wish Toyota makes every hybrid car awd-e as a standard, and remote start as a standard.
Lost the audio on your first dedicated pedal up regen attempt on the straight away but it did pick up after about 30 seconds. I think this would qualify possibly for those that have to be limited because of driving offenses. You know like three speeding tickets we take your license unless you’re drive a Prius for a year.😏 Like the liquor sickles.😁
Where is the test of rear wheels helping in snow?
great, so where is this filmed!?
Colorado
Good fun to watch. Not clear what the altitude is on that journey, but if the Prius has a naturally aspirated engine (like the baby Yaris which I have), that will have had a significant effect on it’s power. Reminded me of climbing up a road in the Savoie mountains in South East France a few years ago, in an old lowish power diesel car, at around 6000 feet or so; not nice.
I test drove two of them in 2019. Very tempting to buy. I would go for the white base model. It was a 100 degrees when I test drove both colors and for some reason the solid white Prius was much much colder. It felt like the way your weather is now!! My glasses fogged up too. The new design isn’t all that bad either. The Prius prime is hideous looking. I always went for the more expensive models of cars but this time I would go for the cheapest base model. I was seriously considering a Chevy bolt as well. It would be nice to rid of gasoline and oil 100% though. But I also want a car to last a long time. Prius has proven that. For now I’m just watching videos like yours lol. Starting over on a new car loan isn’t appealing at all right now.
Not a fan of the Prius but it’s a good commuter car for someone just looking for A to B trip and nothing else as that’s where it excels.
As a former 2nd gen and plug in prius owner, I have to disagree. Terrible ride. I'm sure this newer generation is better, but since I have been averaging 42mpg in a RAV4 hybrid for a year and a half in New England, I would highly recommend that as a commuter over a Prius.
When you need to repeat the same things over and over again it’s better to make a shorter video.
2 horses can split your body apart. How much more for 7 horses.
In my day Prius was front wheel drive 🤣
Nice!!
No one ever complains about not having a speedometer in front of them in a Prius. Maybe it’s because they never have to look at it?
That's because it's up higher and closer to the windshield more in your field of view. Particularly the second generation Prius it's almost directly in front of you just below the bottom of the glass of the windshield.
The model 3 is to the right of your steering wheel and the number is significantly smaller.
That is why the digital speed control is so great. Just feather it up or down a few mph plus with a Gen 4 it falls i line with the vehicle or Amish Buggy ahead of me.
I hated driving up mountains Toyota Prius: it is revving the engine to the max giving a feeling that something is wrong with car.
Just a "cvt" dude. Rev the bollocks out of it. It's max operating rpm under high load uphill is like 4500-5600 rpm
12:00 😏
toyota says in the owners book . don't floor the gas pedal . He doesn't know anything about toyota hybrids . he is an EV guy . he is destroying this Prius
You are in B mode which is a "downshift" and meant for downhill engine breaking- so of course it seems "gutless". You misunderstand what B mode is for. Out of B mode, it will accelerate more normally. It's not meant to be driven this way. You are overstressing the gas engine. Foolishness and not proving anything. Poor assessment.
Nice try. You drove uphill it B mode. Clueless AF.
Toyota just can't let go of ICE. They better get some new product managers installed fast if they want to survive into the next decade. GM and Ford will continue to have the income stream from heavy trucks but Toyota better fix their crystal ball. And WOW, that droning engine is soooooo annoying! People complain about long range EV's stopping to charge but can you imagine driving this car across the country???
Toyota builds what people actually want to buy in enough quantity that it's profitable to do so. Toyota sells 10.6 million cars per year.. I would not worry about them going out of business.
The engine is droning at high RPM because he's climbing a mountain.. seems pretty obvious.
At steady state 85 miles per hour on a straight flat highway you cannot hear the engine.
The engine will rev up if you put your foot in it and have to pass somebody. Then slows down back to quiet.
I have an old 2ng gen prius..
I can drive 340 miles nonstop at 85 mph before I even hit the reserve of my 12 gallon gas tank.
Which leaves me with 3 gallons that I could theoretically drive another 115 miles.
Full tank to absolutely empty is 456 mi. At 85 mph.
Driving mixed speeds of city and highway (48mpg) I have a full range of 560 miles.
It then takes 3 minutes to fill the tank back up. For fast road tripping it's one of the best cars out there.
Has enough room to do car camping in it at least for one person..You can easily sleep in the back woth the seats folded.
My personal total cost is $0.07 per mile. That's fuel , all maintenance fluids done by me, and tires.
Oh yeah and I bought the car for $2,000 with 200,000 miles on it, and in the last 3 years I've put 150,000 miles MORE on it. Now have 355,000 miles total.
EVS are great they're fun and they are certainly the future eventually.
Until then I'll be financially smart and continue to buy Toyota products.
and Toyota is going to be smart and continue to sell vehicles that people actually want to buy.
2017 Prius with 190,000 miles. As far NW as Prince Rupert BC, 1800 miles in Mexico to Durango. (It hated low octane gas and high elevation) 2022 I hope to finally make Yellowknife with it. Cabin noise is about the same as a Corolla.(Not good) My complaint: low profile the plastic belly plates just takes a beating. I vote grill guard and metal front bumper skin and metal skid plates. Engine noise goes away when a Harley Davidson passes you. Plus I would love to find a upper Midwest Toyota dealer that will work on one. Just a joke.
Slow the fuck down!
Such a miserable car.
Not really. Kyle seems to be having fun even though it's slow doesn't he?
and for a daily driver going to and from work or using for rideshare it's probably the best car out there.
Small enough to be easy to drive has a great turning radius tons of cargo and decent back seat room.
Almost as efficient cost-wise as an EV.
Especially when you factor the purchase price.
Go and drive one for a week use it as your daily vehicle and see what you think.
Powerful enough under normal driving conditions, quiet, maneuverable, practical, reliable. Kind of seems like a perfect daily driver to me.
I've got a 2008 myself. 355,000 miles on it. Car cost me 7 cents per mile. That's fuel all maintenance and tires.
@@kens97sto171 I’ll take your word for it and hold on to my Model Y.
@@hockeyno93
Model Y is nice.. for sure. But I'm not spending $50k to save gas money.
The math does NOT work..
When I compare a new Model 3 LR $48k vs a new loaded Prius $30k
Driving 50,000 miles per year the break even point is 10+ years. Before I save the $18k difference in price.
I don't care about performance... Just comfortable, reliable, practical. Just a tool for a job for me.