What do you want, Ports, or a long wait?? ALSO, the Kiwi Talkz RUclips channel is GREAT if you're looking to learn more about the development of Metroid games. Definitely recommend you check it out :)
Id rather be a long wait. Seeing is that metroid prime 4 is going to be awhile, i think it will be plenty of time for those twl to be polished and remastered
I would have preferred they just upscaled the visuals and given us all three games instead of the hi def remaster route they took. Don't get me wrong, the remastered Prime 1 looks amazing, but honestly I don't think it needed it. Besides, now people are wanting these hi def remasters of 2&3 wich is either going to be a long way off, or it's going to need to steal personnel and resources from Prime 4, further delaying it again.
This is why I don’t think they’re going to release 2 and 3 as full remasters. With Metroid prime remastered sales off the charts, it’s a perfect time to release Metroid prime 4 to follow the hype (assuming they don’t already have prime 2 & 3 done as this report suggests). It may also be too much content too fast or slow leading too lower Prime 4 sales. I bet they wait till after Prime 4 to release 2 & 3
I think they should delay P4 for two more years and focus this year on P2 and next year on P3. That way we get them done with the same quality as P1, but also we get them before P4. Win:Win, I can see no downside to my plan.
@@Verboten_Joey yes but the main demographic for Prime 4 (younger gamers that never experienced the OG’s) may not have the same patience, thus the business reason to launch Prime 4 asap. Just another scenario to consider
I also don’t completely commit to the idea that just because this specific contractor didn’t get selected to work on a Remaster for 2 and/or 3, doesn’t mean they aren’t already in the works. I find it hard to believe that Retro wouldn’t agree to a remaster of this magnitude without agreeing to do all three.
I'm gonna have to look for where I saw it, but I heard that Retro initially signed on to remaster all three, but they mutually agreed with Nintendo to give the other 2 remasters to another studio so Retro can focus everything they have on Metroid Prime 4. Take all this with a grain of salt unless I can get back to you with sources on that though.
An easy sentiment to have, but consider... Metroid prime 2 was created in part to the unprecedented success of prime 1, but failed to perform as well. Same for 3.
@@TheAcadianGuy the wii controls are actually quite liked by those who actually played prime 3. The main criticism of prime 3 was how linear it was, and how the presence of hyper mode made the game too easy.
Imagine the dark world in MP2 with the remastered graphics, the lighting and coloring would be amazing. Also, faster loading times between the dark and light world would make it so much better to play.
Yes! I'm expecting Echoes to be a huge upgrade in quality of life as a full remaster. It's already my favorite of the trilogy as a more hardcore Metroid gamer.
@@blackpow3r The 2nd game is definitely the harder of the trilogy. Especially on hard mode and I love the challenge. Plus, the soundtrack is awesome. Do you have a favorite track from the 2nd game?
A proper Prime 2 remaster like they did with the first, and more of a quicker touch up with Prime 3 would make me happy enough. Prime 3 looked quite good as it was and Prime 2 could look gorgeous.
With MPR being as successful as it apparently has been, and MP4 in development, it is only logical to assume that there will continue to be a rollout leading up to its release. Not to mention Dread’s success. Nothing is for certain, but it would make sense.
It seems like 1 of 2 scenarios are most likely; the previous report that 2 and 3 are just getting hd upscales with the dual stick controls rather than a full remaster, or no prime 2 and 3 before we get 4. Leaving key entries in a series out is not unusual for Nintendo. They have been in no rush to get Pikmins 1 and 2 out ahead Pikmin 4. And Mario galaxy 2 is still mia
@@Zultzify DITTO! I’m a Metroid fangirl, but I’d love a remastered Pikmin 2. But Pikmin 1, notsomuch. I didn’t like the time limit = death in the first Pikmin game.
To be fair, MPR definitely exceeded my expectations regarding ports of Nintendo games. Usually, Nintendo is pretty lazy regarding re-releases, as they usually port the original game without any changes whatsoever and expecting their customers to pay full price, like the 3D Mario collection, the 25th anniversary Mario Collection, the 20th anniversary Kirby collection, etc. So regarding Metroid Prime's remaster, I was genuinely surprised how good they made it.
While I will probably get it eventually, I haven’t rushed out to get the prime 1 remaster since I have the perfectly functional trilogy version on Wii. I definitely would not buy a straight up port of 2 and 3
Porting them to switch wouldn't make sense to me seeing how they took the time to not only update the graphics but also give us control options, a casual difficulty, and extras in the menu
@@Deathworg1 The biggest thing is not knowing when the next system or Prime 4 will release. They might just avoid doing the Prime 1 full remaster in order to get 2 and 3 out relatively quick if the Switch is set to discontinue within the next year or two. And, with no news on Prime 4 yet, we don't know if Nintendo will use it as the last hurrah on the Switch or as a premier on the next console.
@@lo4tr Nintendo's had a noticeable track record of doing both with Zelda in recent years, with Twilight Princess on both GC and Wii then Breath of the Wild on both Wii U and Switch. It's not totally inconceivable to think they'd do this for Metroid considering how much love Nintendo's been suddenly showing the series. But as is often the case with Nintendo, anything could happen
@@Redeadhunter Considering Nintendo's track record... it wouldn't surprise me that Metroid Prime 4 will release for the Wii U and the Prime 2-3 are 'remastered' for the 3DS.
I can be patient for the remastering of those games. I've played them a lot when I was younger and nostalgia glasses are getting kinda thick. Give the same love and care as the first Prime game and I'll be more than happy to buy it again cause the second game is one of my favorites of all time.
Supposedly, word from an industry insider, Jeff Grubb, was that we're more likely to get ports of Prime 2 and 3 rather than full on HD remasters if/when Nintendo decides to release them, so this supports the word that Nintendo already has 2 and 3 made for the Switch AND Garcelano's tweet of hoping for the other two, as he wouldn't know that the other two are already made.
Depends on how far along Prime 4 is. If Prime 4 is near completion than just ports. If Prime 4 is still a few years out than remasters of Prime 2 and 3
I recently bought prime 2 on GameCube , and I love it so much . Hope they also release them later on switch cuz the remaster was great . And damn the soundtracks on prime 2 are my fav of all time .
Prime 2 soundtrack is also great but Prime 1 soundtrack is my favorite of all time! The atmosphere of each area is so different and the music just immerses you fully in each unique world
If you enjoy these prime games you should look into randomizers (it basically puts all the power ups in random places among other things) Edit: For instance: Jump Guardian could have Screw Attack and Bomb Guardian has Dark Beam (or you could be unlucky and they have expansions but you find Annhilator Beam in the missile locked room in Temple Grounds its really fun.
Contractors are only given the information they need to do their job. I’m an electrical contractor. Clients don’t tell me about other jobs unless it’s relevant to what I’m being hired for.
I hear people talking about it being hard to find copies of Prime 1 Remastered, ya'll are crazy. All stores in my city still have plenty of copies lol.
We've waited this long, I don't see any harm in waiting another year or two for the other remasters. Metroid Prime 4 will probably take another 3 years anyways
I really think it depends on the planned timing of Prime 4. While hardcore Metroid fans may be excited to play every release they can get their hands on, the more casually interested Switch owners who would make up the bulk of the consumer base for Prime 4, may get a little tired of the franchise if they release too many of them too quickly. If I were Nintendo and I had plans for Prime 4 to come out in 2023 or 2024, I'd want that game to be the next Metroid product that capitalizes on the excitement generated by Prime Remastered. Drop the number and give it a subtitle (something in the vein of Fusion, Echos, Corruption, and Dread) so that newcomers don't feel like they absolutely need to play 2 and 3 first. Then I'd later put out remasters of 2 and 3 for Switch 2.
It might also be wierder than that. Given the information we have available, it's possible that multiple studios, or studio teams, were hired to handle the remakes. Meaning that there is still a universe that the insider leaks are accurate AND this artist didn't know about the other two games. Not exactly the most likely scenario, but it still is possible.
I'm hoping if Retro isn't working on Prime 2 and 3 themselves, maybe Iron Galaxy will. They worked on 1 Remastered, and showed they can do a great job continuing the work of other devs when they took over seasons 2 and 3 of Killer Instinct 2013 when Amazon vored Double Helix Personally, I want them to have the same quality remaster as 1. 2 was actually my first Metroid ever, and it'd be a shame if 2 and 3 get shafted
What makes you so sure Nintendo/Retro didn't have different contractors working with three separate teams, with each team working on one Prime in tandem with the others?
Obviously id love to have prime 2 and 3 done as well as the recent release, but I honestly dont think theyre gona remater the whole trilogy to that extent. There was no doubt a TON of work put into that game, and to do it 2 more times just seems unlikely if you ask me. Retro has been busy with prime 4 for the past four years now. Where would they have had the time or resources to basically completely remake 2 more games? I think what we'll be looking at for the next 2 games is a crisp HD re release, possibly some updated character models and the monderized controls from prime 1 remastered carried over. Bundle those 2 games together for 30-40 bucks and I believe most fans would be ok buying that, I certainly would. Key thing they have to do is just make it look nice and run smooth, and DONT overcharge for them. Its so important right now that NIntendo just makes metroid appeal to new and old fans as much as possible. This is their moment to take the series and make it huge.
While I agree with Prime 3 coming as an HD port, with Prime 2 I still believe in the remaster, most of Prime 2 are repurposed assets of Prime 1 and even when it originally released, it took only 2 years of development. Now they have much more than they would've back in the day, the Prime Remaster engine and assets; also art, story, powerups and map design from the original Echoes. Most if not all of the work needed for a Prime 2 remaster would be in remaking the textures and models that, while not light, it's much less conceptually than what they had to do between 2002-2004.
There was a post on reset era stating that the remastering the 3 prime games for separate instead of prime trilogy was always the original idea and retro started to work on prime 1, but then nintendo decided to give prime 4 to retro, apparently this was the reason why iron galaxy was brought on board, and it makes sense for them to do the prime 2 and 3 remasters while retro can fully focus on prime 4. Prime 2 and 3 remasters will come eventually.
I was so fast to pick up metroid prime remastered. My brother had waited over a decade for this game and prime 4 to be released and this was his favorite game series by far to play growing up. Sadly he passed dec 3rd this last year so i am beating the remaster myself as I've never played this specific brand of metroid personally. I only remember watching him play it endlessly. In his memory for my own sake i really hope they do prime 2, 3, & 4 justice
As a long time Zelda fan and a new Metroid fan I can wait as much time as I need to get a remasters for prime 2 and prime 3. I am currently waiting for ports of wind waker hd and twilight princess hd. So I can wait for a very very long time. All I can do now is hope.
I suspect Prime 2 Echo's Remastered being a surprise here you go announcement in the June Direct, if their is no June Direct again, then July announcement. Prime 3 being Holiday as in September-November and Prime 4 being March 2024.
Would rather wait longer. Give them the touch up they deserve. I couldn't enjoy the visuals of the original 2 & 3 knowing they could look like MP1 Remastered.
First update Metroid prime remastered via a patch to allow to switch between original GC textures and effects and the remastered textures and effects with the click of a button or an option to toggle on and off in the menu then apply those changes to a future Metroid prime 2,3, hunters, pinball, federation force remasters
If Anthony is a contractor, that doesn't necessarily mean he would of known about the other projects being developed as even normal employees are kept out of the loop of what other teams are developing, but I would happily wait for them to release a full remaster of the other two
I think I would be somewhat ok with ports, as I never beat Metroid Prime 2 and never played Prime 3. I'd LOVE remasters even if there is a wait, but I'd take what I can get.
I'd rather wait for them to be remastered honestly. Echoes especially needs it bad, I would love to see Echoes with the same updated graphics as the first remaster.
On the one hand, we have someone saying they’re already done. On the other hand we have a contractor who worked on art for one of them saying he hopes the other two are up next. It could very easily be a case of compartmentalization, where the contractor worked on one of the games while other teams were working on the others. Naturally, he wouldn’t be aware of the status of the other games, or that they were even being worked on, because he’s only doing art for one of them and isn’t involved at a higher level.
Honestly with how good the remaster is I'd rather them take more time on 4 and just expedite remasters of 2 and 3. I only say this cause I never beat prime on GameCube when I had it because the controls always frustrated me. I've been having a blast with prime remaster because the controls are how they should have been day 1. Now I want to play 2 & 3 more than ever before I even attempt 4. Because of this sales could possibly suffer for 4 if 2 & 3 aren't released prior if more feel the way I feel. Also there is probably a new generation of Metroid fans from this remaster that would benefit from getting 2 & 3 next.
Unpopular opinion: Metroid Prime 2 was imo the best Metroid game with both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime 1 very close on a 2nd and 3rd place respectively. Don't get me wrong, I love this franchise and especially these 3 games can be considered as some of the best games of all time. But MP2 did one thing the best of all the Metroid Games: ATMOSPHERE. I'm a huge fan of great atmosphere in games and MP2 absolutely nailed it. From the creepy "Aliens" like opening with all the dead space marines all the way to the climatic 3rd battle against Dark Samus while the dark dimension was about to collapse.. The atmosphere was of the charts. You absolutely dreaded to enter the dark dimension and not only because of the great and creepy atmosphere, but because said atmosphere could actually kill you! So it started to invoke the feeling of dread and MP2 at some points almost played and felt like a Sci Fi horror game. Truly a stroke of genius by the developers (although some critics and fans hated the dark dimension) But every part of it was done to perfection.. The eerie music, extremely though enemies at certain points and the constant danger adding to the horror feel of the game. And Light Aether wasn't devoid of great atmosphere either btw. Especially Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress were beautiful and extremely wel made designwise. Imo its one of the best games ever made and sadly criminally underrated.
It was a good assumption that the game is not coming out based off of the dev’s response. There is clearly a conflict and one of the two must not be telling the truth. Since the dev is a contractor, out of respect, he may not reveal so much info, so he is more bound to secrecy than the other source. Since he has more at risk for possible further contracts, I would assume he is the one that is incorrect and Metroid Prime 2 & 3 are already made.
Just finished the standard run (fprgot one, ONE scan, the ice shriekbat). Gonna do the new game + on hard difficulty (and scan the damn bat this time!!) so yeah... I think i can wait a little for 2 and 3 ahah
Game dev works In a way, specially AAA ot greater, in which many developers and Testers are not carried over into the development of the next game. Often not even informed about what the games even are. Contractors especially are treated as other in these environments.
I’d rather wait for completely remastered versions of both 2 and 3. And before we know it after those are all released they will have a nicely polished prime 4 ready to be played.
The thing about waiting is the Switch would be around for alot longer in that case, people don't want that lol. Switch will last this year and 2024, then the next system March 2025 is my guess. That leaves 2 years, not much time to "wait".
@@ItApproaches You are right, but another option is that they could come out on whatever new console does come out. It totally makes sense to me that people don't want to wait. But, just me personally, I'd rather wait for better looking remasters than get ports of games that I already own the originals.But again, I understand people wanting to have them on switch before prime 4 comes out. (I'm also kinda wondering if 4 is going to be released on whatever come after the Switch)
@@Frysbear I could see Prime 2 remastered shadow dropping in the summer and Prime 3 just getting a Skyward Sword HD version treatement coming in holiday this year then Prime 4 March next year. I don't think Prime 4 would be on the next system, if anything thenext system will be backwards compatable maing it redundant to port it over lol.
Personally I would want Nintendo to give Prime 2 and 3 the same amount of remastering that they gave Metroid Prime 1. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for those games if they did that.
Just in case any developer ever reads these comments: Take the time, do it right and you'll make sales. Prime Remastered is exactly what 2 and 3 - any kind of updated remaster - should be.
I’m guessing 2 and 3 will just get a resolution and texture boost with some better lighting. Basically a pretty port. Not a full remaster. But depending on how far out MP4 is we could get remakes like Prime. If it’s a couple years than likely. But if prime 4 is on the horizon within the next year and a half, than pretty ports.
They are already done, they've been done for years. The reason the physical copies were delayed is because Nintendo shipped many of their shipments out on the day of the release, the 22nd of February. I got mine March 1st.
I don't think Metroid prime 2 and 3 need as much work as 1 they were already leaps ahead of 1 in graphical design so minor touch ups and added control schemes are probably all that needed to be done.
I’d rather wait for a Remaster than just a port. I want more Metroid as much as anybody but I’d rather wait for something that feels like a celebration of the franchise. Dread and Re-Prime very much felt like a celebration of the franchise.
This just means HE wasn't brought on for Prime 2 Remastered. It makes no sense to go from Prime 1 to Prime 4. They will bring Prime 2 and 3 over. Prime 2 likely will be a remaster like Prime 1, as it was on GC to. Though I suspect Prime 3 will just be an HD upscaled port like Skyward Sword HD.
I think Prime Remaster solely acted as a refresher for Retro. They are behind it after all. I highly doubt they'll have time to work on the second and third installment while simultaneously working on Prime 4. So with that said I expect a bundle type treatment or maybe even a preorder bonus with bare minimum done. Remember, Prime Remaster is a Retro Studios project. Nintendo had nothing to do with it other than publishing it.
😂😂😂😂😂 What are you talking about “Retro Studios Project. Nintendo had nothing to do…”?? Kid, they own the game, the IP and the company, if they had not green lighted it, it won't exist.
A couple things to take into account here. First, just because one contractor doesn't have knowledge of Prime 2 and 3 doesn't mean anything at all. Remember, if Nintendo is sitting on the Remasters, it means they were all in development at relatively the same time, meaning that different teams were likely involved. It is pretty much a graphical overhaul, so it doesn't need to be the same team doing it. So long as the general art direction is kept consistent through a project manager, it it likely that many different individuals were contracted out per game. Now, that being said, it doesn't mean anything positive either. It is also entirely possible that Prime 2 and 3 are 'remastered' as slightly upscaled versions of the original games. It really depends on if Nintendo thinks the Prime games would have enough of an audience to put forth the needed effort. Considering the hype surrounding the Prime games for years now, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Nintendo has at least set the groundwork to get proper remasters of 2 and 3. My belief is that Nintendo has already put together a pseudo-remaster of 2 and 3 and have things waiting in the wings for proper remasters. They were waiting to see how well Prime 1 did and will base their next move off of it. Because it sold so well, I believe it likely that Nintendo may push for 2 and 3 to be done in a similar manner. What's more, because assets can be translated from the new Prime 1 and the basic art direction is already in place, remastering Prime 2 and 3 should be a less intensive endeavor. They could also decide that the hype for Prime 1 is enough to get 2 and 3 to sell even without giving them the full effort... so it's kind of a wash. Really, there are a lot of variables to take into consideration, especially without knowing when Prime 4 will release or the next system. Nintendo may scrap fully remastering 2 and 3 in order to get them out on the Switch for the end of its cycle and use Prime 4 as the major release for the next console.
Absolutely. I will wait as this is one of the best gaming trilogy out there. We want MP 2 and 3 remasters. I dont mind paying the full price for the games either.
Naah that'd be stupid. People wouldn't swallow a downgrade after being flashed by Prime 1 remaster. Also the place of straightforward ports is NSO, people would buy even less something that they otherwise would have gotten for "free" eventually. And I know that they released the Mario collection, but that was a limited time offering to get Sunshine and Galaxy way ahead of schedule. The N64 is almost finished considering Nintendo does not have the rights to most of their missing games from that era. So we can predict GameCube to be ahead, as these services always have to serve you something new to keep you subscribed. What sounds better: "Here have Gamecube emulator, but no Metroid Prime 2 because you can buy it for full prize in the store" vs "Here have GameCube emulator, but no Metroid Prime 2 yet because you can buy a shiny remaster for full prize in the store"
Metroid Prime Remastered ended it's development on 2021, so it's been a while since that contract dev knew something about the other games. Wouldn't be a surprise that Prime 2 is ready too and Prime 3 it's getting finished, as well as Prime 4.
Since Echoes is my favorite Metroid game, and easily in my top 5 ever, i'd rather wait for them to rework it properly and give it justice. It deserves it. Not a huge fan of Corruption personally, but it had its strengths as well, and i gotta admit that seeing Skytown fully remodeled and retextured seems pretty epic to me.
Personally, I don't mind waiting for them (up to a year between each new game), given that they put the same amount of TCL into these games. Metroid Prime Remastered is a masterpiece!
My theory is that Retro made the Metroid Prime remaster years ago and it’s the reason why the Namco version of Prime 4 was cancelled (because Retro’s remaster was better than Namco’s 4). They were probably planning on doing all three originally, but 2 and 3 were cancelled so they could focus on 4. I think it’s unlikely we’ll ever see remasters of 2 and 3 unless those are picked up after Prime 4 as a separate project. And honestly, the Metroid series is probably better off that way. Prime 1 has gotten a lot of positive buzz, why risk people getting bored of it with two more huge games before the big one drops?
Well it would be reasonable that Echoes especially, using much of the same engine as Prime, would be done more quickly than Prime took if done by the same people. However, Corruption might take longer.
1:02 Not necessarily the case. If they outsource the development of Metroid Prime 2 and 3 remastered, which seems to be the case, the choice of the development team would be on whichever company is doing it.
During the announcement of Metroid Prime Remastered, in the trailer at the beginning, its says: Countdown to reentry... They probably talk about the first game, but we can assume they talk about the countdown to reentry into the story of Metroid Prime, since the 4 is in dev. Each project is probably kept secret. Its safe to assume that if the guy is a contractor for Metroid Prime Remastered, Retro Studio and Nintendo have probably different teams to work for the second and the third and different contractor to be more efficient and quick.
What do you want, Ports, or a long wait??
ALSO, the Kiwi Talkz RUclips channel is GREAT if you're looking to learn more about the development of Metroid games. Definitely recommend you check it out :)
Im torn. I want the games soon, but it would be sad to not see 2 and 3 look as polished as they could be
Id rather be a long wait. Seeing is that metroid prime 4 is going to be awhile, i think it will be plenty of time for those twl to be polished and remastered
I’d rather have a long wait and get a full remaster of 2 and 3.
"The best things come to those who wait."
Unless it's Half-Life 3 or Duke Nukem Forever.
I would have preferred they just upscaled the visuals and given us all three games instead of the hi def remaster route they took.
Don't get me wrong, the remastered Prime 1 looks amazing, but honestly I don't think it needed it.
Besides, now people are wanting these hi def remasters of 2&3 wich is either going to be a long way off, or it's going to need to steal personnel and resources from Prime 4, further delaying it again.
I would rather wait for Metroid Prime 2 and 3 to be remastered then just play the port as long as it would be available before Metroid Prime 4.
This is why I don’t think they’re going to release 2 and 3 as full remasters.
With Metroid prime remastered sales off the charts, it’s a perfect time to release Metroid prime 4 to follow the hype (assuming they don’t already have prime 2 & 3 done as this report suggests). It may also be too much content too fast or slow leading too lower Prime 4 sales. I bet they wait till after Prime 4 to release 2 & 3
As long as they're quality remasters, I don't care if they release before or after Prime 4.
I think they should delay P4 for two more years and focus this year on P2 and next year on P3. That way we get them done with the same quality as P1, but also we get them before P4. Win:Win, I can see no downside to my plan.
Personally, that's what I'm hoping for too.
@@Verboten_Joey yes but the main demographic for Prime 4 (younger gamers that never experienced the OG’s) may not have the same patience, thus the business reason to launch Prime 4 asap. Just another scenario to consider
This happens all the time, voice actors are asked about roles for sequels and say they know nothing but turns out they already recorded for it. NDA.
Andrew Garfield
That guy isn't a voice actor
@@johndodo2062 I know but same thing could occur. Not saying it's definitely the case but it may be.
@@johndodo2062 If he worked on it he can't say it exists unless he wants to break NDA and never work for Nintendo again
@@ADreamingTraveler don't forget the 6 digit lawsuit.
I also don’t completely commit to the idea that just because this specific contractor didn’t get selected to work on a Remaster for 2 and/or 3, doesn’t mean they aren’t already in the works. I find it hard to believe that Retro wouldn’t agree to a remaster of this magnitude without agreeing to do all three.
Also why would this guy just admit they exist when he'd be under NDA if he knew? He wouldn't be allowed to say it
I'm gonna have to look for where I saw it, but I heard that Retro initially signed on to remaster all three, but they mutually agreed with Nintendo to give the other 2 remasters to another studio so Retro can focus everything they have on Metroid Prime 4. Take all this with a grain of salt unless I can get back to you with sources on that though.
@@InvictusByz hoping you’re wrong…no offense
@otownfirefighter I mean, as long as the other studios do bug fixes and a graphical/texture update like the current remaster, I'd be fine with that
the only one im interested in is prime3 if it doesnt get remastered thats fine too
Imagine Skytown with modern graphics 😩🤤
Imagine dark aether and the ings from prime 2 with modern graphics 😩
Sanctuary Fortress with modern graphics would be so fucking good too
I love that idea.
Bryyo with modern graphics 😍
Underwater Torvus, Sanctuary Fortress, U-Mos' fluffy body... 🥴
I know man that would be awesome.
Based on the sales for MPR, Nintendo would be foolish not to give 2 & 3 the same treatment
An easy sentiment to have, but consider...
Metroid prime 2 was created in part to the unprecedented success of prime 1, but failed to perform as well. Same for 3.
@@goergebobicles1351yep, I'd imagine the same would happen again. If not worse
@@goergebobicles1351 prime 3 failed because of the annoying Wii gimmick
@@TheAcadianGuy the wii controls are actually quite liked by those who actually played prime 3. The main criticism of prime 3 was how linear it was, and how the presence of hyper mode made the game too easy.
Imagine the dark world in MP2 with the remastered graphics, the lighting and coloring would be amazing.
Also, faster loading times between the dark and light world would make it so much better to play.
Yes! I'm expecting Echoes to be a huge upgrade in quality of life as a full remaster. It's already my favorite of the trilogy as a more hardcore Metroid gamer.
@@blackpow3r The 2nd game is definitely the harder of the trilogy. Especially on hard mode and I love the challenge. Plus, the soundtrack is awesome. Do you have a favorite track from the 2nd game?
I can only imagine how good dark samus gonna look in the game
Hope they nerve the game a bit too. The ending was too tough.
A proper Prime 2 remaster like they did with the first, and more of a quicker touch up with Prime 3 would make me happy enough. Prime 3 looked quite good as it was and Prime 2 could look gorgeous.
Doesn't mean they haven't already done them, could just be a smokescreen statement especially since he is probably under a non-disclosure agreement.
With MPR being as successful as it apparently has been, and MP4 in development, it is only logical to assume that there will continue to be a rollout leading up to its release. Not to mention Dread’s success. Nothing is for certain, but it would make sense.
I rather wait and have prime 2 and 3 remastered. That's best in the long run.
It seems like 1 of 2 scenarios are most likely; the previous report that 2 and 3 are just getting hd upscales with the dual stick controls rather than a full remaster, or no prime 2 and 3 before we get 4. Leaving key entries in a series out is not unusual for Nintendo. They have been in no rush to get Pikmins 1 and 2 out ahead Pikmin 4. And Mario galaxy 2 is still mia
i would pay top dollar for pikmin 1 and 2 remasters
@@Zultzify Pikmin is doper then people think. Very fun RTS/'Puzzle games
@@Zultzify DITTO! I’m a Metroid fangirl, but I’d love a remastered Pikmin 2. But Pikmin 1, notsomuch. I didn’t like the time limit = death in the first Pikmin game.
Maybe Prime 4 will be closer in feel/style to Prime 1, meaning that 2 and 3 won't be as necessary to play.
@@Umamis_Boy perhaps, that is a possibility. But that’s still a major unfounded assumption
To be fair, MPR definitely exceeded my expectations regarding ports of Nintendo games. Usually, Nintendo is pretty lazy regarding re-releases, as they usually port the original game without any changes whatsoever and expecting their customers to pay full price, like the 3D Mario collection, the 25th anniversary Mario Collection, the 20th anniversary Kirby collection, etc. So regarding Metroid Prime's remaster, I was genuinely surprised how good they made it.
While I will probably get it eventually, I haven’t rushed out to get the prime 1 remaster since I have the perfectly functional trilogy version on Wii. I definitely would not buy a straight up port of 2 and 3
I want remasters, I can wait if they are as awesome as this one.
Porting them to switch wouldn't make sense to me seeing how they took the time to not only update the graphics but also give us control options, a casual difficulty, and extras in the menu
But look at how good this is selling, if they know they'll get their money back they'll do it. Especially if they're gonna make even more obviously
@@Deathworg1 The biggest thing is not knowing when the next system or Prime 4 will release. They might just avoid doing the Prime 1 full remaster in order to get 2 and 3 out relatively quick if the Switch is set to discontinue within the next year or two. And, with no news on Prime 4 yet, we don't know if Nintendo will use it as the last hurrah on the Switch or as a premier on the next console.
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@@lo4tr Nintendo's had a noticeable track record of doing both with Zelda in recent years, with Twilight Princess on both GC and Wii then Breath of the Wild on both Wii U and Switch. It's not totally inconceivable to think they'd do this for Metroid considering how much love Nintendo's been suddenly showing the series. But as is often the case with Nintendo, anything could happen
@@Redeadhunter Considering Nintendo's track record... it wouldn't surprise me that Metroid Prime 4 will release for the Wii U and the Prime 2-3 are 'remastered' for the 3DS.
I can be patient for the remastering of those games. I've played them a lot when I was younger and nostalgia glasses are getting kinda thick. Give the same love and care as the first Prime game and I'll be more than happy to buy it again cause the second game is one of my favorites of all time.
Supposedly, word from an industry insider, Jeff Grubb, was that we're more likely to get ports of Prime 2 and 3 rather than full on HD remasters if/when Nintendo decides to release them, so this supports the word that Nintendo already has 2 and 3 made for the Switch AND Garcelano's tweet of hoping for the other two, as he wouldn't know that the other two are already made.
Depends on how far along Prime 4 is. If Prime 4 is near completion than just ports. If Prime 4 is still a few years out than remasters of Prime 2 and 3
I recently bought prime 2 on GameCube , and I love it so much . Hope they also release them later on switch cuz the remaster was great . And damn the soundtracks on prime 2 are my fav of all time .
I have had Prime 2 on the GC for a while and started but never finished it years ago. I hope I can play on the Switch someday.
Prime 2 soundtrack is also great but Prime 1 soundtrack is my favorite of all time! The atmosphere of each area is so different and the music just immerses you fully in each unique world
If you enjoy these prime games you should look into randomizers (it basically puts all the power ups in random places among other things) Edit: For instance: Jump Guardian could have Screw Attack and Bomb Guardian has Dark Beam (or you could be unlucky and they have expansions but you find Annhilator Beam in the missile locked room in Temple Grounds its really fun.
Yaas torvus bog for the win
"recently bought"? You can play them on emulation since 2009.
Contractors are only given the information they need to do their job. I’m an electrical contractor. Clients don’t tell me about other jobs unless it’s relevant to what I’m being hired for.
I hear people talking about it being hard to find copies of Prime 1 Remastered, ya'll are crazy. All stores in my city still have plenty of copies lol.
A remaster of 2/3 together would be the perfect. Id pay 100$ for that easily
We've waited this long, I don't see any harm in waiting another year or two for the other remasters. Metroid Prime 4 will probably take another 3 years anyways
I really think it depends on the planned timing of Prime 4. While hardcore Metroid fans may be excited to play every release they can get their hands on, the more casually interested Switch owners who would make up the bulk of the consumer base for Prime 4, may get a little tired of the franchise if they release too many of them too quickly. If I were Nintendo and I had plans for Prime 4 to come out in 2023 or 2024, I'd want that game to be the next Metroid product that capitalizes on the excitement generated by Prime Remastered. Drop the number and give it a subtitle (something in the vein of Fusion, Echos, Corruption, and Dread) so that newcomers don't feel like they absolutely need to play 2 and 3 first. Then I'd later put out remasters of 2 and 3 for Switch 2.
It might also be wierder than that. Given the information we have available, it's possible that multiple studios, or studio teams, were hired to handle the remakes. Meaning that there is still a universe that the insider leaks are accurate AND this artist didn't know about the other two games. Not exactly the most likely scenario, but it still is possible.
I’m open to remasters. However, if settling with ports could mean that metroid prime 4 gets more attention in development then I’m all for that.
I'm hoping if Retro isn't working on Prime 2 and 3 themselves, maybe Iron Galaxy will. They worked on 1 Remastered, and showed they can do a great job continuing the work of other devs when they took over seasons 2 and 3 of Killer Instinct 2013 when Amazon vored Double Helix
Personally, I want them to have the same quality remaster as 1. 2 was actually my first Metroid ever, and it'd be a shame if 2 and 3 get shafted
What makes you so sure Nintendo/Retro didn't have different contractors working with three separate teams, with each team working on one Prime in tandem with the others?
My only arguement for metroid prime 2 and 3 coming to the switch is... pikmin.
Obviously id love to have prime 2 and 3 done as well as the recent release, but I honestly dont think theyre gona remater the whole trilogy to that extent. There was no doubt a TON of work put into that game, and to do it 2 more times just seems unlikely if you ask me. Retro has been busy with prime 4 for the past four years now. Where would they have had the time or resources to basically completely remake 2 more games?
I think what we'll be looking at for the next 2 games is a crisp HD re release, possibly some updated character models and the monderized controls from prime 1 remastered carried over. Bundle those 2 games together for 30-40 bucks and I believe most fans would be ok buying that, I certainly would. Key thing they have to do is just make it look nice and run smooth, and DONT overcharge for them. Its so important right now that NIntendo just makes metroid appeal to new and old fans as much as possible. This is their moment to take the series and make it huge.
While I agree with Prime 3 coming as an HD port, with Prime 2 I still believe in the remaster, most of Prime 2 are repurposed assets of Prime 1 and even when it originally released, it took only 2 years of development. Now they have much more than they would've back in the day, the Prime Remaster engine and assets; also art, story, powerups and map design from the original Echoes. Most if not all of the work needed for a Prime 2 remaster would be in remaking the textures and models that, while not light, it's much less conceptually than what they had to do between 2002-2004.
There was a post on reset era stating that the remastering the 3 prime games for separate instead of prime trilogy was always the original idea and retro started to work on prime 1, but then nintendo decided to give prime 4 to retro, apparently this was the reason why iron galaxy was brought on board, and it makes sense for them to do the prime 2 and 3 remasters while retro can fully focus on prime 4.
Prime 2 and 3 remasters will come eventually.
I was so fast to pick up metroid prime remastered. My brother had waited over a decade for this game and prime 4 to be released and this was his favorite game series by far to play growing up. Sadly he passed dec 3rd this last year so i am beating the remaster myself as I've never played this specific brand of metroid personally. I only remember watching him play it endlessly. In his memory for my own sake i really hope they do prime 2, 3, & 4 justice
As a long time Zelda fan and a new Metroid fan I can wait as much time as I need to get a remasters for prime 2 and prime 3. I am currently waiting for ports of wind waker hd and twilight princess hd. So I can wait for a very very long time. All I can do now is hope.
I definitely don't mind waiting a year between Metroid Prime remasters.
I assumed Nintendo would remaster the trilogy before the Prime 4 release.
I am new to the series and am loving it. I would rather wait to have proper ports of Prime 2 and 3.
I suspect Prime 2 Echo's Remastered being a surprise here you go announcement in the June Direct, if their is no June Direct again, then July announcement. Prime 3 being Holiday as in September-November and Prime 4 being March 2024.
Well Prime 3 doesnt really need a remaster just a slighty updated port, Metroid Prime 2 Echoes on the other hand really needs a remaster.
Would rather wait longer.
Give them the touch up they deserve. I couldn't enjoy the visuals of the original 2 & 3 knowing they could look like MP1 Remastered.
They should take their time and do them right, but they should do both 2 and 3 at the same time for a combo package.
I'm completely fine with MP2 Echoes just being ported to the Switch.
First update Metroid prime remastered via a patch to allow to switch between original GC textures and effects and the remastered textures and effects with the click of a button or an option to toggle on and off in the menu then apply those changes to a future Metroid prime 2,3, hunters, pinball, federation force remasters
I hope Metroid prime 2 comes out in August so that would everyone enough time to play number one.
If Anthony is a contractor, that doesn't necessarily mean he would of known about the other projects being developed as even normal employees are kept out of the loop of what other teams are developing, but I would happily wait for them to release a full remaster of the other two
I think I would be somewhat ok with ports, as I never beat Metroid Prime 2 and never played Prime 3. I'd LOVE remasters even if there is a wait, but I'd take what I can get.
The Metroid games are proof that good things come to those who wait
I'd rather wait for them to be remastered honestly. Echoes especially needs it bad, I would love to see Echoes with the same updated graphics as the first remaster.
On the one hand, we have someone saying they’re already done. On the other hand we have a contractor who worked on art for one of them saying he hopes the other two are up next. It could very easily be a case of compartmentalization, where the contractor worked on one of the games while other teams were working on the others. Naturally, he wouldn’t be aware of the status of the other games, or that they were even being worked on, because he’s only doing art for one of them and isn’t involved at a higher level.
Honestly with how good the remaster is I'd rather them take more time on 4 and just expedite remasters of 2 and 3. I only say this cause I never beat prime on GameCube when I had it because the controls always frustrated me. I've been having a blast with prime remaster because the controls are how they should have been day 1. Now I want to play 2 & 3 more than ever before I even attempt 4. Because of this sales could possibly suffer for 4 if 2 & 3 aren't released prior if more feel the way I feel. Also there is probably a new generation of Metroid fans from this remaster that would benefit from getting 2 & 3 next.
Remasters! And while they’re at it, fix and finish Metroid prime 2.
Unpopular opinion:
Metroid Prime 2 was imo the best Metroid game with both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime 1 very close on a 2nd and 3rd place respectively.
Don't get me wrong, I love this franchise and especially these 3 games can be considered as some of the best games of all time.
But MP2 did one thing the best of all the Metroid Games: ATMOSPHERE.
I'm a huge fan of great atmosphere in games and MP2 absolutely nailed it.
From the creepy "Aliens" like opening with all the dead space marines all the way to the climatic 3rd battle against Dark Samus while the dark dimension was about to collapse.. The atmosphere was of the charts.
You absolutely dreaded to enter the dark dimension and not only because of the great and creepy atmosphere, but because said atmosphere could actually kill you!
So it started to invoke the feeling of dread and MP2 at some points almost played and felt like a Sci Fi horror game.
Truly a stroke of genius by the developers (although some critics and fans hated the dark dimension)
But every part of it was done to perfection.. The eerie music, extremely though enemies at certain points and the constant danger adding to the horror feel of the game.
And Light Aether wasn't devoid of great atmosphere either btw.
Especially Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress were beautiful and extremely wel made designwise.
Imo its one of the best games ever made and sadly criminally underrated.
Wait for proper remasters. I already have prime 2 and 3 on the Wii trilogy
i was never expecting to get the other 2 games this soon so i'm happy if they're coming at all.
It was a good assumption that the game is not coming out based off of the dev’s response. There is clearly a conflict and one of the two must not be telling the truth. Since the dev is a contractor, out of respect, he may not reveal so much info, so he is more bound to secrecy than the other source. Since he has more at risk for possible further contracts, I would assume he is the one that is incorrect and Metroid Prime 2 & 3 are already made.
Just finished the standard run (fprgot one, ONE scan, the ice shriekbat). Gonna do the new game + on hard difficulty (and scan the damn bat this time!!) so yeah... I think i can wait a little for 2 and 3 ahah
Game dev works In a way, specially AAA ot greater, in which many developers and Testers are not carried over into the development of the next game. Often not even informed about what the games even are. Contractors especially are treated as other in these environments.
I’d rather wait for completely remastered versions of both 2 and 3. And before we know it after those are all released they will have a nicely polished prime 4 ready to be played.
I'd wait for the remasters FOR SURE. Just imagining all the splaces in 2 and 3 looking as good as prime 1 remaster.
The thing about waiting is the Switch would be around for alot longer in that case, people don't want that lol. Switch will last this year and 2024, then the next system March 2025 is my guess. That leaves 2 years, not much time to "wait".
@@ItApproaches You are right, but another option is that they could come out on whatever new console does come out. It totally makes sense to me that people don't want to wait. But, just me personally, I'd rather wait for better looking remasters than get ports of games that I already own the originals.But again, I understand people wanting to have them on switch before prime 4 comes out. (I'm also kinda wondering if 4 is going to be released on whatever come after the Switch)
@@Frysbear I could see Prime 2 remastered shadow dropping in the summer and Prime 3 just getting a Skyward Sword HD version treatement coming in holiday this year then Prime 4 March next year. I don't think Prime 4 would be on the next system, if anything thenext system will be backwards compatable maing it redundant to port it over lol.
Personally I would want Nintendo to give Prime 2 and 3 the same amount of remastering that they gave Metroid Prime 1. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for those games if they did that.
Just in case any developer ever reads these comments: Take the time, do it right and you'll make sales. Prime Remastered is exactly what 2 and 3 - any kind of updated remaster - should be.
I’m guessing 2 and 3 will just get a resolution and texture boost with some better lighting. Basically a pretty port. Not a full remaster.
But depending on how far out MP4 is we could get remakes like Prime. If it’s a couple years than likely. But if prime 4 is on the horizon within the next year and a half, than pretty ports.
If this is true I would be extremely happy. I couldn't care less for a physical copy, I just want to replay my sequels
As long as there's dual stick controls, I'm fine either way.
I'd prefer to wait for the other two games to get the same remaster treatment as the first did.
They are already done, they've been done for years. The reason the physical copies were delayed is because Nintendo shipped many of their shipments out on the day of the release, the 22nd of February. I got mine March 1st.
They could just not be hiring Anthony for metroid prime 2 and 3 remastered.
I don't think Metroid prime 2 and 3 need as much work as 1 they were already leaps ahead of 1 in graphical design so minor touch ups and added control schemes are probably all that needed to be done.
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Yea, that's what I thought also.
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For the history, they better remaster both games with the same treatment.
I dont care about prime 3 but God I really wanto to play a remaster of prime 2.
They mentioned 2 and 3 won't be remastered when prime 1 released
Well to be fair Prime 4 doesn't need a remaster just a HD port, Prime 2 on the other hand.
They need to be remasterd. And that's final.
I’d rather wait for a Remaster than just a port. I want more Metroid as much as anybody but I’d rather wait for something that feels like a celebration of the franchise. Dread and Re-Prime very much felt like a celebration of the franchise.
They should just do a trilogy remastered 😅
Speculation at best. 2 things can be true. Mp2 and 3 could be remastered already but Nintendo is being hush hush about it
I'd wait for 2 and 3 remastered. We can't go back to a straight port with the older and clunkier control schemes.
I'd rather wait for a fully remastered 2 and 3 than them just porting the two over to the Switch as they are.
I mean it should come in August I hope number two so that way so everyone has enough time to play number one. I correct my words.
Will there be a remake of Metroid pinball off the DS .
This just means HE wasn't brought on for Prime 2 Remastered. It makes no sense to go from Prime 1 to Prime 4. They will bring Prime 2 and 3 over. Prime 2 likely will be a remaster like Prime 1, as it was on GC to. Though I suspect Prime 3 will just be an HD upscaled port like Skyward Sword HD.
They'd be foolish not to give those games the royal treatment also. It'd be worth the wait
It’s gonna happen, It’s a matter of time.
I haven't played 2 or 3 but is it possible they'll be able to reuse a lot of assets to develop them more quickly?
I don't think so. All three games had very distinct worlds that didn't resemble the other games.
I think Prime Remaster solely acted as a refresher for Retro. They are behind it after all. I highly doubt they'll have time to work on the second and third installment while simultaneously working on Prime 4. So with that said I expect a bundle type treatment or maybe even a preorder bonus with bare minimum done. Remember, Prime Remaster is a Retro Studios project. Nintendo had nothing to do with it other than publishing it.
I think we'll get the other 2 games especially now that they see how much demand there is for it it will let them drag out Prime 4 while making money
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What are you talking about “Retro Studios Project. Nintendo had nothing to do…”??
Kid, they own the game, the IP and the company, if they had not green lighted it, it won't exist.
Metroid prime 2 is my favourite metroid game so they best make it
I'd wait for the remasters..
A couple things to take into account here. First, just because one contractor doesn't have knowledge of Prime 2 and 3 doesn't mean anything at all. Remember, if Nintendo is sitting on the Remasters, it means they were all in development at relatively the same time, meaning that different teams were likely involved. It is pretty much a graphical overhaul, so it doesn't need to be the same team doing it. So long as the general art direction is kept consistent through a project manager, it it likely that many different individuals were contracted out per game.
Now, that being said, it doesn't mean anything positive either. It is also entirely possible that Prime 2 and 3 are 'remastered' as slightly upscaled versions of the original games. It really depends on if Nintendo thinks the Prime games would have enough of an audience to put forth the needed effort. Considering the hype surrounding the Prime games for years now, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Nintendo has at least set the groundwork to get proper remasters of 2 and 3.
My belief is that Nintendo has already put together a pseudo-remaster of 2 and 3 and have things waiting in the wings for proper remasters. They were waiting to see how well Prime 1 did and will base their next move off of it. Because it sold so well, I believe it likely that Nintendo may push for 2 and 3 to be done in a similar manner. What's more, because assets can be translated from the new Prime 1 and the basic art direction is already in place, remastering Prime 2 and 3 should be a less intensive endeavor. They could also decide that the hype for Prime 1 is enough to get 2 and 3 to sell even without giving them the full effort... so it's kind of a wash.
Really, there are a lot of variables to take into consideration, especially without knowing when Prime 4 will release or the next system. Nintendo may scrap fully remastering 2 and 3 in order to get them out on the Switch for the end of its cycle and use Prime 4 as the major release for the next console.
Absolutely. I will wait as this is one of the best gaming trilogy out there. We want MP 2 and 3 remasters. I dont mind paying the full price for the games either.
I believe MP2 and MP3 will receive more straightforward ports with updated controls.
Naah that'd be stupid. People wouldn't swallow a downgrade after being flashed by Prime 1 remaster. Also the place of straightforward ports is NSO, people would buy even less something that they otherwise would have gotten for "free" eventually.
And I know that they released the Mario collection, but that was a limited time offering to get Sunshine and Galaxy way ahead of schedule.
The N64 is almost finished considering Nintendo does not have the rights to most of their missing games from that era.
So we can predict GameCube to be ahead, as these services always have to serve you something new to keep you subscribed.
What sounds better:
"Here have Gamecube emulator, but no Metroid Prime 2 because you can buy it for full prize in the store"
vs
"Here have GameCube emulator, but no Metroid Prime 2 yet because you can buy a shiny remaster for full prize in the store"
Metroid Prime Remastered ended it's development on 2021, so it's been a while since that contract dev knew something about the other games. Wouldn't be a surprise that Prime 2 is ready too and Prime 3 it's getting finished, as well as Prime 4.
Since Echoes is my favorite Metroid game, and easily in my top 5 ever, i'd rather wait for them to rework it properly and give it justice. It deserves it.
Not a huge fan of Corruption personally, but it had its strengths as well, and i gotta admit that seeing Skytown fully remodeled and retextured seems pretty epic to me.
Personally, I don't mind waiting for them (up to a year between each new game), given that they put the same amount of TCL into these games. Metroid Prime Remastered is a masterpiece!
I really enjoyed MP2 and would love to see a remaster. MP3 was not as memorable but they aren’t redoing 2 and skipping 3. So, I’ll hope for both.
Imagine the light suit from MP2 with 2023 graphics and lighting… Trousers would be shat.
My theory is that Retro made the Metroid Prime remaster years ago and it’s the reason why the Namco version of Prime 4 was cancelled (because Retro’s remaster was better than Namco’s 4). They were probably planning on doing all three originally, but 2 and 3 were cancelled so they could focus on 4.
I think it’s unlikely we’ll ever see remasters of 2 and 3 unless those are picked up after Prime 4 as a separate project. And honestly, the Metroid series is probably better off that way. Prime 1 has gotten a lot of positive buzz, why risk people getting bored of it with two more huge games before the big one drops?
Yeah, I’ve been considering this too… It’s possible players might get Metroid Prime burnout after playing the HD trilogy. NOT.
Have to agree with your view, seems like the most reasonable scenario.
Well it would be reasonable that Echoes especially, using much of the same engine as Prime, would be done more quickly than Prime took if done by the same people. However, Corruption might take longer.
wait for a remaster
I want Metroid Prime 5 Remastered before Metroid Prime 4
1:02 Not necessarily the case. If they outsource the development of Metroid Prime 2 and 3 remastered, which seems to be the case, the choice of the development team would be on whichever company is doing it.
During the announcement of Metroid Prime Remastered, in the trailer at the beginning, its says: Countdown to reentry... They probably talk about the first game, but we can assume they talk about the countdown to reentry into the story of Metroid Prime, since the 4 is in dev. Each project is probably kept secret. Its safe to assume that if the guy is a contractor for Metroid Prime Remastered, Retro Studio and Nintendo have probably different teams to work for the second and the third and different contractor to be more efficient and quick.