00:00 - Teaser 01:30 - Introduction of guests 03:50 - Why they try to promote their culture on RUclips and Instagram? 06:40 - Did they have conversation with other Turks? 08:13 - Why nations with the same ethnonym have different languages? 09:45 - Which Turkic languages are close to each other? 10:15 - How Crimean Tatar language was built? 10:50 - Which Turkic language might be bridge for all Turks? 14:20 - What kind of factors divided Ancient Turks? 17:15 - Some Turkic nations don’t call themselves as Russian Gov. call! 18:40 - Do other nations (foreigners) recognize us as Turks? 21:50 - How Crimean Tatars lost their mother land? 24:10 - Comparing Kazakh - Tatar - Crimean Tatar languages
I've always been interested and curious about the Turkic people, their language and all the cultures. This video is very good and educational. Greetings from Indonesia. Long live Turkic people ❤️
As a Turk from Turkey that always had an interest in other Turkic peoples and cultures, 10 years ago if you were on youtube, on any forum the majority of people that were talking about Turkic people, issues, history were people from Turkey. Today if you go watch a video about Turkic people or history the comments are from all over the Turkic world and it really makes me proud to see that. Esp to see that the younger generation of some heavily assimilated groups are trying to rediscover their culture, their bonds to other Turkic people and history. Even people like the Gagauz are putting in a real effort to revive their language and customs that are slowly getting lost as they have been so assimilated by Russia. It's also kinda interesting to see. A Gagauz girl was asked where she wanted to study after highschool and she said her first choice was Turkey but that she was also ok with Russia. One guy was talking about how they had been assimilated a lot into Russian culture and that many people felt close to Russia, but added, but we've become so Russian we've lost who we are and I think it's important that we keep our culture and traditions alive and I'm glad we're doing that now.
Amazing amazing work you guys are all doing! I'm so proud and excited for the bright future for all the Turkic nations!! And as a Turkish person I could understand Crimean Tatar language the easiest but loved how you two spoke Tatar and Kazakh language :)
We are all Turks, but we are a very old nation spread over a very wide geography. As you go from one end to the other, the accent difference increases. In all Turkish countries, a common dialect should be taught in addition to our own regional dialects. The Germans did this in their tiny geography. We should too. A Kazakh Turk and a Turk of Türkiye should be able to get along perfectly.
Turkic people have the same origin country. it's the Altai Mountains in Sibiria. That is why Turkic languages belong to the altaic languages. So ... Turk people are spread all over the world and it is beautiful, it makes me very proud.
I am Albanian and we have so many old turkish loanwords,that actually come from persians and arabic, like: dushman(düşman=enemy) pishman(pişman) Turçe,Turçeli(Türkçe, Türkler) xhep(cep=pocket) shishe(şişe=bottle) der(old word for "kapı"=door) kapixhik(kapıcık=> büyük kapı) xhamí(cámi=mosque) xhamija(camiyi= the mosque) xham(cam=glass) xhámi(camı= the glass) bardak(mug/cup) insan(human) jorgan(yorgan) kallaballëk(kalabalık) çekiç(hammer) milet çekmexhe(çekmece=drawer) kaún(kavun= melon) karpúz(watermelon) perí(péri=fairy)
Love these discussions, keep it up! Also, did you ever discuss which one is the most beautiful sounding Turkic language? Like how people might usually say French or Italian is for the Indo-European languages. It would be very interesting!
Казахский звучит так же твёрдо, как и немецкий. А по поводу того, какой из тюрских языков мягок по звучанию могу сказать, что это узбекский и татарский, про остальных не в курсе.
Trying to speak in Kazakh with Turks - ruclips.net/video/642Wnpx-l_8/видео.html Trying to speak in Kazakh with Kyrgyz - ruclips.net/video/8NKnf7CP2ZM/видео.html
Lenur is absolutely right about Tercüman journal and how all Turks of Russian Empire could understand it. In Kazan, Orenburg and Ufa it was extremely popular, a lot of Kazan Tatars and Bashkirs grew up reading that journal, and then Rizaeddin Fakhreddin and Dardmand started their own journal in Orenburg called Şura. Modern Crimen Tatar is very close to old Kazan Tatar language. Also Bulgar poet Qul Ali wrote his famous poem Qissai Yusuf in Oghuz, and that poem is considered the first poem of Kazan Tatars and Bashkirs.
The Kazan Tatar guy looks absolutely like he’s from Turkey. Why people in Turkey thought he was Russian is probably he said he wasn’t Turkish, so people second guessed.
They are very similar on the whole, except for the highly divergent Chuvash language of the Volga region of Russia . I would say they differ less on the whole than say, the Germanic languages . They certainly aren’t all mutually intelligible, but it’s still quite easy for speakers of the different Turkic languages to learn one of those which are not immediately intelligible . For example, there’s probably less difference between the Uighur language and the Turkish of Turkey than between German and Danish despite the fact that German and Danish are geographically right next to each other and Turkish and Uighur are geographically very distant .
When we talk about modern standard German, aka Hochdeutsch, its geographical centre of origin is very southern, while Danish is, for obvious reasons, very northern. The stark contrast between them is the result of two different centres of gravity in the Germanic language speaking world spending centuries of effort to standardise, which only had the practical effect of erasing the natural continuum of dialects that previously bridged them together.
Kırım Tatar Dili 3 lehçesi ile Türki diller arası bir köprü. Kırımlı olup, atası dedesi nenesi, babası, annesi Bu dilin farklı lehçeleri konuşan bir çocuk ne şanslı. Rusça-Ukraynaca da öğrenmek durumunda kalacak. diğer slavic ve Turkic diller ile %40-60 anlaşıyor olsa bile Hırvatski'den Doğu Türkistan'a kadar ana dili bebekken öğrendiği diller ile konuşabileceği yüz ölçümü inanılmaz.
@@Bizmyurt Soviet invasion of Persia during the second world war. After the war was over Stalin wanted to keep the republics he created as part of the Soviet Union, but the UN forced him to pull his troops out, but he kept some territory and created a Soviet republic, that divided the people of that region.
@@danlee5138 the politics are a bit older than that. persians are enemies of Turks despite they have been ruled by Turks for thousand years and not being eliminated. Turks can be up to 40 million in iran some of them have been forcefully assimilated but still many left.
Today, they imagine that Russia divided them, but sometimes they were even more divided and they themselves demanded divisions, because they did not want to submit to another. The Russians allowed them to have their own leaders, which was not acceptable under the Turkic nations, that is why they are so different from each other, because they assimilated many other nations and most of the inhabitants were slaves.
Thank you for saying that at 6:30 Language purists don't understand that when a word enters a language, it becomes part of that language. It's not "foreign" anymore. If you removed every foreign word from say, Turkish, when does it end? Some words are so old and come from Mongolian or Chinese or Iranian. And likewise, many words are exchanged. Some words start in Iranian, then loaned into Arabic, then loaned into Turkic, then loaned into Slavic, then loaned into Greek, then loaned back into Arabic or Iranian and the cycle continues.
Kırım tatarı çocuk konuşunca hepsini anladım. Türkiye Türküyüm. Şimdi o da Tataristan tatarını anlıyor olduğuna göre demek ki ben de biraz şiveye kulak alışkanlığı edinsem onu da iyi anlarım.
Russians were screwed these Turkic nations by calling them they are different. British did the same to Arabs. Turkish languages should be cleaned up Arabic and Farsi words. First, we should agree on the alpabet. No more Kriyl and Arabic one. Atatürk did very good job to adopt the Latin alphabet to Turkish. Ben Türkiyedenim. Tutarları biraz daha iyi anlıyorum. Kazaklarını dili biraz zor geliyor. Ama bir 6 ay beraber olsak blrblrlmizi çok iyi anlayacağız.
@@danlee5138 because it will be diffıcult to be adopted to computers and modern world literature. Turkish being used in Turkey were very well adopted the Latin alphabet and it became phonetic. Azerbaycan did the same. We in Turkey travel around the world without any problem reading anything by Latin alphabet. We have problem with Arabic and Cyrill (was not so bad) as well as Chinese characters including Japan/Korea. Almost every Asian countries useing Chineese characters started to write English under their street signs and public transportations. Going back ancient Turkish script will not solve our communication today.
Today, they imagine that Russia divided them, but sometimes they were even more divided and they themselves demanded divisions, because they did not want to submit to another. The Russians allowed them to have their own leaders, which was not acceptable under the Turkic nations, that is why they are so different from each other, because they assimilated many other nations and most of the inhabitants were slaves.
Russians have done everything they could to prevent communication of turks in Russia especially introducing different alphabets to each group/republic/tribe of turks. Same letters were pronounced in a different way in each group, which caused diversion of the language.
Well the same alphabet with the same phonetics could have been created. Instead they introduce some letters that are written exactly the same in each alphabet but pronounced differently differently, which is a clear indication that it was intentional.
it’s probably because there’s a lot of sound shifts, for example: g- k ( göz - köz ) y - j ( yirmi -jıyırma ) ş - s ( iş - is ) c - j ( cevap- jauap ) ç- ş ( çay - şay ) plural form is made by large in turkish, whereas in kazakh there’s more forms, such as lar, dar, tar possessive case is made by nın/nun/nin/nün turkish, whereas in kazakh there’re many more forms - nıñ, dıñ, tıñ… and there’s still more!!
Regarding the note that girl said others though she was indonesian. I am kazakh girl with white skin, green eyes and light brown hair. I live in korea and they always ask me why i look like this. People in Kazakhstan look very differently. Variation is really broad.
В древности большинство людей, населявших современную территорию Казахстана имели голубые глаза, а это, так называемое, разнообразие - следствие нашествия монголов, и экспансия арабов.
We have some proverbs in western Balkan, Turkish of course. When a person is in a hurry when eating we say: Tatarlar toparlar/kovalar? = Are tatars chasing you? Arba idin? = Were you at war? (harb is arabic Turkish is Savaş) Arba gidecen? Will you go to war?
Bahar is from persian and the old form was like vahar. That form exists in other european languages like latin var for summer and surprisingly in swedish they say vår for spring/bahar. So maybe we can learn from Balnur. Kazaks in mongolia today supposedly speak purer Turkish/kazak than in today's Kazakiya. In western Balkan we probably said more ilkyaz than ilkbahar. Ilkyaz means first summer!
If you start from Turkish in this case it will then be Kırım Tatar, Tatar and Kazak. Even I understood caz as it is Yaz summer in Turkish. you kazaks say j for y and Kırgız c. Western Balkan. Sag olun/bolun
The topical treatment of West Asian languages remains interesting until religion introduces fortified walls to support iron roofing that leaks when it rains...."Anytime-anywhere" remains as the best joke understood in the segment of Turkish, Crimean, and Kazakh washrooms....I was good friends with Kazakhs in university, however age-gap relationships introduce journey that remain untravelled to the added effect of many transfers in the Terminal....Until next time Balnur.
I think there is something that has to be said about the law of the jungle. Golden horde came and conquered crymea and then Slavs did the same. The strongest cannot eternally say to the weakest, i am sorry i was stronger than you. Thats history and that has to be accepted. Its the weak that has to stand up and fight for himself or simply disappear.
In my opinion our „ortak“ language should be uzbek or Crimean Tatar…both languages do have oghuz and kipshak elements…They can talk like kipshaks but also like Oghuz. But bolat is right strangely some words and pronunciation in kazan Tatar is very close to Anatolian Turkish, but probably it goes much further back in history because of bolgar oghur mixing and contact who knows🤷🏻♂️.
What Turkic Russian can serve as a bridge between all Turks? The one which does already - Russian. Yeah it's not Turkic, but it fulfills the role and is not going anywhere. As for Yakut - it's the same word, Sakha, only pronounced by Evenks to Cossacks, and in the process turned from Sakha to Yakut.
Tüm Türkiye'ye den türk dünyasına selamlar maşallah azerbaycan Kırım Tataristan Türkmenistan Kırgızistan Özbekistan dogu Türkistan'd Kazakistan yakutistan Altay hakasya cuvaş nogay kıpcak başkurt tüm Türk dünyası selamlar allaha emanet olun❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Kırım Tatar dilinde “yani” kullanılması ilginç geldi. Yani arapça bir kelime ve arap dillerinde çok kullanılıyor. Sanırım osmanlıdan kırım tatarlara geçmiş
kirim tatar language is too similar to turkish to be a bridge i guess, as a turkish speaker i understand kazan tatars well enough to consider them as a bridge between, another one is the uygur dialect
Tatars in Crimea or Tatarstan are Turkic and should not use this exonym "Tatar". Tatar is was endonym of one of our antient Mongolic tribes, before the Great Mongol Empire was established. Tatars and Khiad Borjigin (the other name for Shiwei Mongols) were fighting at the time of Temujin's father, but both we Mongolian/Mongolic tribes intermarried, alongside the Merkid or Khongirids (It's mistaken to believe that they were Turkic, yes maybe Turkic subjects were among them, like in all Mongolic tribes). The problem was that all the Khiad/Shiwei (aka Mongol) tribes naturally had their own micro-names, even though all spoke the same language and of same origin from Xianbei/Shiwei. Khereid, Naiman, Jalair, Taichuud were all Mongols. The endonym "Tatar" was at some point even used for Mongols of Khiad in general. That deeply Mongolic roots in there. It's our endonym and for Tatars of Tatarstan it is their exonym. It's time for a new name, isn't it? Your own name. Volga Turks or something like that? Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against our Turkic brothers, co-warriors and neighbors. But better for both of us to have clarity.
it's correct, the ones that didn't convert to islam didn't have so many arabic or persian loanwords bur unfortunately they had even heavier language impact from russian through russian occupatian and a lot of those people tend to speak russian needlessly in their daily life which is embarrassing really. one more thing, kipchak and oguz division is a fake one really, it's just language evolving differently through environmental factors, if you analyse anatolian turkish language in remote parts of turkey, all kipchak elements (so called) survive in local dialects
19:00 I would refrain from using words like 'mongoloid' when it's synonymous with calling someone mentally retarded or describing a person with down syndrome in English. I know it's an anthropological term but it's origins are quiet racist. 😕
This is bullshit, it comes from tartmak(in kipchak tartuv) = to pull, a tartar/tatar is someone who pulls/wanders/moves around, in short a nomad. The Greek word goes back to the Latin word „tortus“(english: torture)
The Mongols used Tatar to refer to specific enemy clan. The Chinese used Tatar 韃靼 to refer to the Mongolic people after the Mongol Empire collapsed. The Slavic Rus used the word to refer to everyone East of them.
When the Crimean Tatars occupied the territory, they committed genocide over half of the Ukrainian population, and the Russian army had to stop the genocidal culture in such a way as to force them to be peaceful. Russia brought peace and ended slavery in these places, which improved the economy and the population could start to grow again. However, everyone would only see themselves as victims, and would not admit that they themselves are guilty of a certain reaction.
That’s why Ukrainians say real Ukrainians are Cossacks? Cossack is an other variant for kazakh,😂 common. Before Turkic and slavic tribes germanic gothic tribes lived there and tatars mixed with them. They didn’t tripped them out. Or does the Crimean Tatar girl in the video look like 100% kazakh for you?
@@yaxshibala The territory of half of Ukraine was almost uninhabited, because the inhabitants fled from the Tatars, who enslaved and persecuted them. The Cossacks were created from runaway slaves, robbers, and everyone who wanted to practice Russian Orthodoxy joined them. Therefore, they mixed different cultures. Other nomadic nations, Turkic nations, were also mixed in, but they had the majority of members who were captured slaves with almost no rights. In addition, the Ukrainian Cossacks were always with the Russians and are different from the western Ukrainians who were subjected to Polishization for centuries.
@@kosarkosar7683Cossack hairstyle, swords, bows, clothing, and culture appear heavily nomadic Turkic/Tatar. Turkic Avars and Bulgars have been in this region since 6th century. If you include the Huns it would be 4th century. So much of coastal Ukraine was actually Turkic/Tatar lands.
@@yo2trader539 Previously, various peoples lived there, including nomads, which were closer to Iranian peoples than to Turkish peoples. The Turkic peoples began to migrate from around Mongolia due to drought and wars only about 1000 years ago. The enslaved population assimilated, which is why the Turkic nations are so diverse, because more than half of the population were slaves. For the other tribes that came earlier, it is written that they were confederations of different nations, and their chiefs were mostly of Mongolian nationality.
The word "Tatar" (or tartar) was invented by Europeans and so called the Turks (and called the land as Tartaria). Kazakhs were Independent Tartars, Azerbaijanis were Transcaucasian Tartars, and present-day Tatars were Kazan Tartars.
The Tatar word was used by Mongols and Chinese too. The Mongols used it to refer to specific clans who they considered enemies. The Chinese used Tatar (韃靼人) as a derogatory word to refer to Mongolic people, especially after the collapse of the Mongol Empire. The Slavic/Rus people used the name Tatar/Tartar to refer to everybody East of them including Turkic and Mongolic people. The East Eurasian Turkic Avars were ruling modern-day Hungary and Romania by 6th century. (The Huns were there by 4th century.) While Turkic homeland is in Mongolian steppe and South Siberia, Turkic/Tatar history in Europe is quite old too.
I have a question from Japan. Which do Tuvan people have an affinity for Mongolic people or distant Turkic like Turkish? Tuva is Turkic, not Mongolic, but I feel that it is culturally close to Mongol. for example, race, nomadic life, throat singing, food, religion…
Given that most of Turkic tombs and inscriptions are located in Mongolia and Siberia, and that they ruled Mongolian steppe for most of history...it's difficult to say who influenced who. Xiongnu(匈奴), Gokturks(突厥), Uyghurs, Yenisei Kirghiz...all Turkic clans. Cultural influence is difficult to pinpoint the source. Take food for example. In Japan, it's called Gyoza (餃子) because it's a corruption of the Northern Chinese word Jiaozi. The Mongols call it Buuz (包子), which is a Chinese influence. Koreans call it Mandu (and they believe it's a Mongolian influence), and the Turkic countries mostly call it Manti/Mantu...or 饅頭 (which is something completely different in China and Japan). Er-hu (二胡) is a Turco-Mongolic instrument that became a Chinese instrument during Sui/Tang dynasties. The Chinese called nomadic/horse-riding clothing 胡服. Based on what's recorded in the Gokturk Orkhon Inscriptions, Turkic homeland is in the mountain forests from the Altai Mountains to the Lake Baikal region. Lake Baikal was where the last battle between Han China and Xiongnu (匈奴) took place. In other words, the Tuva people are living right in the middle of Turkic homeland. They just stayed when everybody else around them migrated. The Yakut/Sakha people are Turkic clans originally from the Lake Baikal region, and they still have festivals based on Tengrism.
I suggest the one-word reply system, e.g.: "which is the second biggest city of Russia?" or "I bought 50 onions but my restaurant needs 60, how many should I go get now?" ...and so on, it would give the perfect feeling of understanding each other
I thought kırım tatar is oğuz because ı clearly understand as a turkish. I see that you are interested in different turkic languages similarities. There isnt middle asia but you may be interested. ruclips.net/video/VmcnVqXz7tY/видео.html “Kalenin dibinde”
I feel like most of Crimean Tatar words are Oghuz, at least in literary language, and not just Oghuz but precisely very Turkish, they probably are loanwords from Ottoman. For example: nasıl, olmaq, olaraq, dağ, çoq, ad, ile, genç, daa, degil, dağ, ebet, şöyle, öyle, böyle, çalışmaq, beñzemek, begenmek, doğmaq, deñişmek, yapmaq (to do), beklemek (to wait), istemek (to want), zor (difficult), ağır, ağız, -daki, diger, Tañrı, biñ, ordu, bazı, sayılmaq, episi, aynı, şey, ğaliba, üzerinde, içeri, qaç, ev, sevmek, ağlmaq, ögrenmek, dönmek, yağmur, baar, meraq... and many more
@@bilgesez English is not a romance language, despite sharing more common words with French and Latin than with German, but nevertheless remains as Germanic language, same can be said about Crimean Tatar language.
@@NewJoodat my thoughts precisely. Some people have created a version of English that substitutes Old English words for their Romance counterparts in Modern English, search YT for Anglish to hear spoken examples.
Not turkic TURKISH. Enemies want to divide us! Kırım you said bahar for spring just like in Turkish but it might not be original Turkish so maybe we should learn from the girl. We aslo say ilkyaz for spring.
İngilizce yazarken anlama adına belirteyim, Türkish = Türkçe. Turkey, Türkiye'ye Haçlıların verdiği isimdir. Osmanlıya Turkey, Turk Emperor diyorlardı, barbar Türkler idi. Osmanlı kendini Türk imparatorluğu olarak adlandırıyordu. Osmanlı sonrasında Türki bir halk olmamızdan, Avrupalıların verdiği isimden dolayı yerli halk devlet seçimi ile de Türkiye adı verildi ülkeye. Turkic, Türki bir bilimsel isimdir ve bunu değiştiremezsin. Linguistik, tarihi, genetiki bir bilimsel terim. Ülkelere verilen ismi değiştirebilirsin ama. Sakha, Yakutya, SSCB, USSR, Rusya, Federal Almanya, Çekoslavakya - Çekya Slovakya. Ülke isimleri bilimsel değildir, ülkenin ve komşularının benimsediği şekilde bebeğe konulan isim gibidir. Bir ülke ölür, bölünür, yenisine yeni isim konur. Kazakistan, Tataristan, Başkurtistan, Türkiye gibi bağımsız ya da özerk devletlerin halkları Türki diller konuşan Türki halklardandır. Kazaklar, Kazak'tır Türkidir. Tatarlar, Tatar'dır, Türkidir. Türkmenler, Türkmen'dir, Türkidir. Türkler, Türk'tür, Türkidir. Kırgızlar, Kırgızdır, Türkidir. Azerbaycanlılar, Azerbaycandır, Türkidir. Proto Turkic dilde Türük sözcüğü kavim, kabile, aşiretlerin bütününe verilen isimmiş yani günümüzdeki Turkic ingilizce karşılığı.
@@KoraySeldumanSaçmalama. Gavurlar seni bölmekicin başka söz kulanmak isterler. Türkiye sözü tarihte yoktur. İtalyanlar em çok dillerde bir toplum adından ülke adi ia yada iya eklenerek türedilir! Dolaysile Türkiya deriz, Türkiye malesef feminin kaçar, yakışmaz.
00:00 - Teaser
01:30 - Introduction of guests
03:50 - Why they try to promote their culture on RUclips and Instagram?
06:40 - Did they have conversation with other Turks?
08:13 - Why nations with the same ethnonym have different languages?
09:45 - Which Turkic languages are close to each other?
10:15 - How Crimean Tatar language was built?
10:50 - Which Turkic language might be bridge for all Turks?
14:20 - What kind of factors divided Ancient Turks?
17:15 - Some Turkic nations don’t call themselves as Russian Gov. call!
18:40 - Do other nations (foreigners) recognize us as Turks?
21:50 - How Crimean Tatars lost their mother land?
24:10 - Comparing Kazakh - Tatar - Crimean Tatar languages
Teshekuur ederim ;)
(Don't hate me, my keyboard only speaks ASCII)
@@alexandrBinLov Evet
Actualy it means" I will make you tkanks" literally
I've always been interested and curious about the Turkic people, their language and all the cultures. This video is very good and educational. Greetings from Indonesia. Long live Turkic people ❤️
Iam nogai Turks we are muslim ELHAMDÜLİLLAH
Long live Turkic peoples and languages❤
Long live Humans
Olum hem myheritageda hem burda her yerde seni görüyorum
olum turkic diyon profil fotonda arap asfhasfhjasfhlas, ahmet hocaya benziyor oda arap
We Hun, Kazah, Tatar and all Turkic nations are brothers and sisters.
We are family.
Hun are not turkic tho, no?
As a Turk from Turkey that always had an interest in other Turkic peoples and cultures, 10 years ago if you were on youtube, on any forum the majority of people that were talking about Turkic people, issues, history were people from Turkey. Today if you go watch a video about Turkic people or history the comments are from all over the Turkic world and it really makes me proud to see that. Esp to see that the younger generation of some heavily assimilated groups are trying to rediscover their culture, their bonds to other Turkic people and history. Even people like the Gagauz are putting in a real effort to revive their language and customs that are slowly getting lost as they have been so assimilated by Russia. It's also kinda interesting to see. A Gagauz girl was asked where she wanted to study after highschool and she said her first choice was Turkey but that she was also ok with Russia. One guy was talking about how they had been assimilated a lot into Russian culture and that many people felt close to Russia, but added, but we've become so Russian we've lost who we are and I think it's important that we keep our culture and traditions alive and I'm glad we're doing that now.
Preach brother
Amazing amazing work you guys are all doing! I'm so proud and excited for the bright future for all the Turkic nations!! And as a Turkish person I could understand Crimean Tatar language the easiest but loved how you two spoke Tatar and Kazakh language :)
I really admire how much these people know about Turkic history and culture. Much respect from a Dutch Turk.
Balnur, thank you very much for such kind of interview. It's very useful to me to learn English and to know more about Turcik languages). Рақмет
I love your passion and engagement for our turkic people, cultur and roots.
We are all Turks, but we are a very old nation spread over a very wide geography. As you go from one end to the other, the accent difference increases. In all Turkish countries, a common dialect should be taught in addition to our own regional dialects. The Germans did this in their tiny geography. We should too. A Kazakh Turk and a Turk of Türkiye should be able to get along perfectly.
Many people from other Turkic speaking nations are learning Anatolian Turkish already because it's the most popular language.
@@astarcalledsun this is not true. Turkic nations are not learning turkish because it's not their language.
@@Raidon8537 Many are learning it because they watch Turkish drama TV shows or they want to visit Türkiye.. I did not say all of them speak Turkish.
@@astarcalledsun generally they don't watch lol. Dont spread false infotmation. They have nothing to do with Turkey.
@@Raidon8537 So? Again, I said *many* not all. I have talked to Uyghurs living in China in Turkish.
This is a good and timely topic. You are using your platform well. Kudos Balnur!
Kostenceden kop selam
Greatings from Constanta
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Turkic people have the same origin country. it's the Altai Mountains in Sibiria. That is why Turkic languages belong to the altaic languages.
So ... Turk people are spread all over the world and it is beautiful, it makes me very proud.
Oguz yöruk turkmenden kipcak turklere selam olsun. Turk birligi kuruldu! Kizil elma cihandir ☪️🐺
I am Albanian and we have so many old turkish loanwords,that actually come from persians and arabic, like:
dushman(düşman=enemy)
pishman(pişman)
Turçe,Turçeli(Türkçe, Türkler)
xhep(cep=pocket)
shishe(şişe=bottle)
der(old word for "kapı"=door)
kapixhik(kapıcık=> büyük kapı)
xhamí(cámi=mosque)
xhamija(camiyi= the mosque)
xham(cam=glass)
xhámi(camı= the glass)
bardak(mug/cup)
insan(human)
jorgan(yorgan)
kallaballëk(kalabalık)
çekiç(hammer)
milet
çekmexhe(çekmece=drawer)
kaún(kavun= melon)
karpúz(watermelon)
perí(péri=fairy)
Türk olsun taştan olsun. Dünyanın dört bir yanına dağılmış ırkımın her bir kişisine selam olsun
Selam bro
Love these discussions, keep it up! Also, did you ever discuss which one is the most beautiful sounding Turkic language? Like how people might usually say French or Italian is for the Indo-European languages. It would be very interesting!
Казахский звучит так же твёрдо, как и немецкий. А по поводу того, какой из тюрских языков мягок по звучанию могу сказать, что это узбекский и татарский, про остальных не в курсе.
Trying to speak in Kazakh with Turks - ruclips.net/video/642Wnpx-l_8/видео.html
Trying to speak in Kazakh with Kyrgyz - ruclips.net/video/8NKnf7CP2ZM/видео.html
Lenur is absolutely right about Tercüman journal and how all Turks of Russian Empire could understand it. In Kazan, Orenburg and Ufa it was extremely popular, a lot of Kazan Tatars and Bashkirs grew up reading that journal, and then Rizaeddin Fakhreddin and Dardmand started their own journal in Orenburg called Şura. Modern Crimen Tatar is very close to old Kazan Tatar language. Also Bulgar poet Qul Ali wrote his famous poem Qissai Yusuf in Oghuz, and that poem is considered the first poem of Kazan Tatars and Bashkirs.
The Kazan Tatar guy looks absolutely like he’s from Turkey. Why people in Turkey thought he was Russian is probably he said he wasn’t Turkish, so people second guessed.
They are very similar on the whole, except for the highly divergent Chuvash language of the Volga region of Russia . I would say they differ less on the whole than say, the Germanic languages . They certainly aren’t all mutually intelligible, but it’s still quite easy for speakers of the different Turkic languages to learn one of those which are not immediately intelligible .
For example, there’s probably less difference between the Uighur language and the Turkish of Turkey than between German and Danish despite the fact that German and Danish are geographically right next to each other and Turkish and Uighur are geographically very distant .
When we talk about modern standard German, aka Hochdeutsch, its geographical centre of origin is very southern, while Danish is, for obvious reasons, very northern.
The stark contrast between them is the result of two different centres of gravity in the Germanic language speaking world spending centuries of effort to standardise, which only had the practical effect of erasing the natural continuum of dialects that previously bridged them together.
Great video! Love Turkic languages.
Amazing!
Thanks you for this video! You do a big work !
Instead of “cevap”, we can also use “yanıt” in Turkish
sor= sual
Great work
Kırım Tatar Dili 3 lehçesi ile Türki diller arası bir köprü. Kırımlı olup, atası dedesi nenesi, babası, annesi Bu dilin farklı lehçeleri konuşan bir çocuk ne şanslı.
Rusça-Ukraynaca da öğrenmek durumunda kalacak.
diğer slavic ve Turkic diller ile %40-60 anlaşıyor olsa bile Hırvatski'den Doğu Türkistan'a kadar ana dili bebekken öğrendiği diller ile konuşabileceği yüz ölçümü inanılmaz.
Muhtaç olduğun kudret, damarlarındaki asil kanda, mevcuttur! MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK
Azerbaijani is a political thing like Qezellbash or etc.
We always considered ourselves turk,turkoman
There is no azerbaycanis they are Türks but persian and russian enemies forcefully made them call them selfes other which mainly started after ww2.
@@Bizmyurt Soviet invasion of Persia during the second world war. After the war was over Stalin wanted to keep the republics he created as part of the Soviet Union, but the UN forced him to pull his troops out, but he kept some territory and created a Soviet republic, that divided the people of that region.
@@danlee5138 the politics are a bit older than that. persians are enemies of Turks despite they have been ruled by Turks for thousand years and not being eliminated. Turks can be up to 40 million in iran some of them have been forcefully assimilated but still many left.
Today, they imagine that Russia divided them, but sometimes they were even more divided and they themselves demanded divisions, because they did not want to submit to another. The Russians allowed them to have their own leaders, which was not acceptable under the Turkic nations, that is why they are so different from each other, because they assimilated many other nations and most of the inhabitants were slaves.
Thank you for saying that at 6:30
Language purists don't understand that when a word enters a language, it becomes part of that language. It's not "foreign" anymore.
If you removed every foreign word from say, Turkish, when does it end? Some words are so old and come from Mongolian or Chinese or Iranian.
And likewise, many words are exchanged. Some words start in Iranian, then loaned into Arabic, then loaned into Turkic, then loaned into Slavic, then loaned into Greek, then loaned back into Arabic or Iranian and the cycle continues.
Thank you for very informative and interesting interviews.
Kırım tatarı çocuk konuşunca hepsini anladım. Türkiye Türküyüm. Şimdi o da Tataristan tatarını anlıyor olduğuna göre demek ki ben de biraz şiveye kulak alışkanlığı edinsem onu da iyi anlarım.
Russians were screwed these Turkic nations by calling them they are different. British did the same to Arabs. Turkish languages should be cleaned up Arabic and Farsi words. First, we should agree on the alpabet. No more Kriyl and Arabic one. Atatürk did very good job to adopt the Latin alphabet to Turkish. Ben Türkiyedenim. Tutarları biraz daha iyi anlıyorum. Kazaklarını dili biraz zor geliyor. Ama bir 6 ay beraber olsak blrblrlmizi çok iyi anlayacağız.
There are Turkic scripts that predate the use of Arabic, Cyrillic and Latin scripts, why can't they be revived?
@@danlee5138 because it will be diffıcult to be adopted to computers and modern world literature. Turkish being used in Turkey were very well adopted the Latin alphabet and it became phonetic. Azerbaycan did the same. We in Turkey travel around the world without any problem reading anything by Latin alphabet. We have problem with Arabic and Cyrill (was not so bad) as well as Chinese characters including Japan/Korea. Almost every Asian countries useing Chineese characters started to write English under their street signs and public transportations. Going back ancient Turkish script will not solve our communication today.
Today, they imagine that Russia divided them, but sometimes they were even more divided and they themselves demanded divisions, because they did not want to submit to another. The Russians allowed them to have their own leaders, which was not acceptable under the Turkic nations, that is why they are so different from each other, because they assimilated many other nations and most of the inhabitants were slaves.
@@cakgun11well just because Anatolia TURKS righting in Latin that doesn't mean all TURKIC PEOPLE must
Russians have done everything they could to prevent communication of turks in Russia especially introducing different alphabets to each group/republic/tribe of turks. Same letters were pronounced in a different way in each group, which caused diversion of the language.
Well the same alphabet with the same phonetics could have been created. Instead they introduce some letters that are written exactly the same in each alphabet but pronounced differently differently, which is a clear indication that it was intentional.
It’s weird, as a Turkish person I understood Kazan Tatar, but Kazakh amost sounds like Mongolian
it’s probably because there’s a lot of sound shifts, for example:
g- k ( göz - köz )
y - j ( yirmi -jıyırma )
ş - s ( iş - is )
c - j ( cevap- jauap )
ç- ş ( çay - şay )
plural form is made by
large in turkish, whereas in kazakh there’s more forms, such as lar, dar, tar
possessive case is made by
nın/nun/nin/nün turkish, whereas in kazakh there’re many more forms - nıñ, dıñ, tıñ…
and there’s still more!!
Türkiyeden bir kucak dolusu selam ve esen olsun
kırım tatar understands kazak as a turkish i cant but i understand kırım tatar very well so kırım tatar is a bridge for sure
Bizi nasıl bölmüşlerse,nasıl birbirimizden ayırmışlarsa, biz kardeşler aramızda ancak ingilizce ile anlaşabiliyoruz.
Balnur, can you make video about Oghuz languages comparasion?
Regarding the note that girl said others though she was indonesian. I am kazakh girl with white skin, green eyes and light brown hair. I live in korea and they always ask me why i look like this. People in Kazakhstan look very differently. Variation is really broad.
В древности большинство людей, населявших современную территорию Казахстана имели голубые глаза, а это, так называемое, разнообразие - следствие нашествия монголов, и экспансия арабов.
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Бик кызклы. Рәхмәт, Айнур
We have some proverbs in western Balkan, Turkish of course.
When a person is in a hurry when eating we say:
Tatarlar toparlar/kovalar? = Are tatars chasing you?
Arba idin? = Were you at war? (harb is arabic Turkish is Savaş)
Arba gidecen? Will you go to war?
Bahar is from persian and the old form was like vahar. That form exists in other european languages like latin var for summer and surprisingly in swedish they say vår for spring/bahar.
So maybe we can learn from Balnur. Kazaks in mongolia today supposedly speak purer Turkish/kazak than in today's Kazakiya.
In western Balkan we probably said more ilkyaz than ilkbahar. Ilkyaz means first summer!
Iam nogai Turk we are muslim ELHAMDÜLİLLAH
If you start from Turkish in this case it will then be Kırım Tatar, Tatar and Kazak. Even I understood caz as it is Yaz summer in Turkish. you kazaks say j for y and Kırgız c.
Western Balkan.
Sag olun/bolun
1:50 haha, imagine thinking that 24 years of age is somehow old.
*laughs in chronic back pain*
The topical treatment of West Asian languages remains interesting until religion introduces fortified walls to support iron roofing that leaks when it rains...."Anytime-anywhere" remains as the best joke understood in the segment of Turkish, Crimean, and Kazakh washrooms....I was good friends with Kazakhs in university, however age-gap relationships introduce journey that remain untravelled to the added effect of many transfers in the Terminal....Until next time Balnur.
I think there is something that has to be said about the law of the jungle. Golden horde came and conquered crymea and then Slavs did the same. The strongest cannot eternally say to the weakest, i am sorry i was stronger than you. Thats history and that has to be accepted. Its the weak that has to stand up and fight for himself or simply disappear.
Ben Türkiye'den yazıyorum
Kanalına hazır yazıldım
Sağol
Rahmet
In my opinion our „ortak“ language should be uzbek or Crimean Tatar…both languages do have oghuz and kipshak elements…They can talk like kipshaks but also like Oghuz. But bolat is right strangely some words and pronunciation in kazan Tatar is very close to Anatolian Turkish, but probably it goes much further back in history because of bolgar oghur mixing and contact who knows🤷🏻♂️.
What Turkic Russian can serve as a bridge between all Turks? The one which does already - Russian. Yeah it's not Turkic, but it fulfills the role and is not going anywhere.
As for Yakut - it's the same word, Sakha, only pronounced by Evenks to Cossacks, and in the process turned from Sakha to Yakut.
Tüm Türkiye'ye den türk dünyasına selamlar maşallah azerbaycan Kırım Tataristan Türkmenistan Kırgızistan Özbekistan dogu Türkistan'd Kazakistan yakutistan Altay hakasya cuvaş nogay kıpcak başkurt tüm Türk dünyası selamlar allaha emanet olun❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Kırım Tatar dilinde “yani” kullanılması ilginç geldi. Yani arapça bir kelime ve arap dillerinde çok kullanılıyor. Sanırım osmanlıdan kırım tatarlara geçmiş
Hello from Ukraine! We are supporting Qirym Tatar.
kirim tatar language is too similar to turkish to be a bridge i guess, as a turkish speaker i understand kazan tatars well enough to consider them as a bridge between, another one is the uygur dialect
Nurbey turkiye is homeland orher turks
So welcome to homeland OK
Tatars in Crimea or Tatarstan are Turkic and should not use this exonym "Tatar". Tatar is was endonym of one of our antient Mongolic tribes, before the Great Mongol Empire was established. Tatars and Khiad Borjigin (the other name for Shiwei Mongols) were fighting at the time of Temujin's father, but both we Mongolian/Mongolic tribes intermarried, alongside the Merkid or Khongirids (It's mistaken to believe that they were Turkic, yes maybe Turkic subjects were among them, like in all Mongolic tribes). The problem was that all the Khiad/Shiwei (aka Mongol) tribes naturally had their own micro-names, even though all spoke the same language and of same origin from Xianbei/Shiwei. Khereid, Naiman, Jalair, Taichuud were all Mongols. The endonym "Tatar" was at some point even used for Mongols of Khiad in general. That deeply Mongolic roots in there. It's our endonym and for Tatars of Tatarstan it is their exonym. It's time for a new name, isn't it? Your own name. Volga Turks or something like that? Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against our Turkic brothers, co-warriors and neighbors. But better for both of us to have clarity.
In mongol tradition it was also the youngest son who have to take care of his parents unlike Chinese where that duty falls on eldest.
That's interesting. I didn't understand why the youngest son inherited Mongolia and China.
@@yo2trader539 In China it is the eldest sons who get it.
it's correct, the ones that didn't convert to islam didn't have so many arabic or persian loanwords bur unfortunately they had even heavier language impact from russian through russian occupatian and a lot of those people tend to speak russian needlessly in their daily life which is embarrassing really.
one more thing, kipchak and oguz division is a fake one really, it's just language evolving differently through environmental factors, if you analyse anatolian turkish language in remote parts of turkey, all kipchak elements (so called) survive in local dialects
tatar came, conquered, raided, enslaved the slavs back in Crimea so honestly it's not tatar land..
Şu şekil anlayamadım Türkçe’nizi gençler
ruclips.net/user/shortsiu2MTPLAbWY?feature=share
350 million Turkic language family
19:00 I would refrain from using words like 'mongoloid' when it's synonymous with calling someone mentally retarded or describing a person with down syndrome in English. I know it's an anthropological term but it's origins are quiet racist. 😕
Meaning here was clear, but Wikipedia has word "mongolic".
Did you know the word Tartar comes from the Greek word Tartarus which means hell in Greek. :)
Wow, thanks for sharing this info
It's TATAR not taRtar, only europe have this confusion says Tartarus.
@@sTorMaDa Tatar, misspelled my bad.
This is bullshit, it comes from tartmak(in kipchak tartuv) = to pull, a tartar/tatar is someone who pulls/wanders/moves around, in short a nomad. The Greek word goes back to the Latin word „tortus“(english: torture)
The Mongols used Tatar to refer to specific enemy clan. The Chinese used Tatar 韃靼 to refer to the Mongolic people after the Mongol Empire collapsed. The Slavic Rus used the word to refer to everyone East of them.
be low and slow..........you talk too fast.....be a won man
Go to Ukraine
they are welcome in Türkiye
How come they are Tatar?????
Original Tatar was Mongolian
They were NOT Slav
Look this’s who pretend to be Tatar now
They are All slavs
When the Crimean Tatars occupied the territory, they committed genocide over half of the Ukrainian population, and the Russian army had to stop the genocidal culture in such a way as to force them to be peaceful. Russia brought peace and ended slavery in these places, which improved the economy and the population could start to grow again. However, everyone would only see themselves as victims, and would not admit that they themselves are guilty of a certain reaction.
That’s why Ukrainians say real Ukrainians are Cossacks? Cossack is an other variant for kazakh,😂 common. Before Turkic and slavic tribes germanic gothic tribes lived there and tatars mixed with them. They didn’t tripped them out. Or does the Crimean Tatar girl in the video look like 100% kazakh for you?
@@yaxshibala The territory of half of Ukraine was almost uninhabited, because the inhabitants fled from the Tatars, who enslaved and persecuted them. The Cossacks were created from runaway slaves, robbers, and everyone who wanted to practice Russian Orthodoxy joined them. Therefore, they mixed different cultures. Other nomadic nations, Turkic nations, were also mixed in, but they had the majority of members who were captured slaves with almost no rights. In addition, the Ukrainian Cossacks were always with the Russians and are different from the western Ukrainians who were subjected to Polishization for centuries.
@@kosarkosar7683Cossack hairstyle, swords, bows, clothing, and culture appear heavily nomadic Turkic/Tatar. Turkic Avars and Bulgars have been in this region since 6th century. If you include the Huns it would be 4th century. So much of coastal Ukraine was actually Turkic/Tatar lands.
@@yo2trader539 Previously, various peoples lived there, including nomads, which were closer to Iranian peoples than to Turkish peoples. The Turkic peoples began to migrate from around Mongolia due to drought and wars only about 1000 years ago. The enslaved population assimilated, which is why the Turkic nations are so diverse, because more than half of the population were slaves. For the other tribes that came earlier, it is written that they were confederations of different nations, and their chiefs were mostly of Mongolian nationality.
@@yo2trader539 As an interesting fact, Gothic Germans lived in Crimea in most of the territory.
Bulat sounds like he grew up in England
Wawaweewa!!!
İf u have short of time why speking 30 min about nothing?😅 Speak turkic already... examples
The word "Tatar" (or tartar) was invented by Europeans and so called the Turks (and called the land as Tartaria). Kazakhs were Independent Tartars, Azerbaijanis were Transcaucasian Tartars, and present-day Tatars were Kazan Tartars.
The Tatar word was used by Mongols and Chinese too. The Mongols used it to refer to specific clans who they considered enemies. The Chinese used Tatar (韃靼人) as a derogatory word to refer to Mongolic people, especially after the collapse of the Mongol Empire.
The Slavic/Rus people used the name Tatar/Tartar to refer to everybody East of them including Turkic and Mongolic people. The East Eurasian Turkic Avars were ruling modern-day Hungary and Romania by 6th century. (The Huns were there by 4th century.) While Turkic homeland is in Mongolian steppe and South Siberia, Turkic/Tatar history in Europe is quite old too.
“Tartar” is so cringe! Tatar is the correct word
BALNUR HANIM CALISMALARINIZDA BASARILAR DILIYORUM
I have a question from Japan.
Which do Tuvan people have an affinity for Mongolic people or distant Turkic like Turkish?
Tuva is Turkic, not Mongolic, but I feel that it is culturally close to Mongol.
for example, race, nomadic life, throat singing, food, religion…
Throat singing is originally Turkic culture that Mongolics adopted, even Mongols themselves are culturally Turco-Mongolic.
Given that most of Turkic tombs and inscriptions are located in Mongolia and Siberia, and that they ruled Mongolian steppe for most of history...it's difficult to say who influenced who. Xiongnu(匈奴), Gokturks(突厥), Uyghurs, Yenisei Kirghiz...all Turkic clans.
Cultural influence is difficult to pinpoint the source. Take food for example. In Japan, it's called Gyoza (餃子) because it's a corruption of the Northern Chinese word Jiaozi. The Mongols call it Buuz (包子), which is a Chinese influence. Koreans call it Mandu (and they believe it's a Mongolian influence), and the Turkic countries mostly call it Manti/Mantu...or 饅頭 (which is something completely different in China and Japan).
Er-hu (二胡) is a Turco-Mongolic instrument that became a Chinese instrument during Sui/Tang dynasties. The Chinese called nomadic/horse-riding clothing 胡服. Based on what's recorded in the Gokturk Orkhon Inscriptions, Turkic homeland is in the mountain forests from the Altai Mountains to the Lake Baikal region.
Lake Baikal was where the last battle between Han China and Xiongnu (匈奴) took place. In other words, the Tuva people are living right in the middle of Turkic homeland. They just stayed when everybody else around them migrated. The Yakut/Sakha people are Turkic clans originally from the Lake Baikal region, and they still have festivals based on Tengrism.
Why do I have such a feeling that Lenur is not a guy but a girl? I have nothing against that. That’s totally ok. Just wanted to express my opinion.
I suggest the one-word reply system, e.g.: "which is the second biggest city of Russia?" or "I bought 50 onions but my restaurant needs 60, how many should I go get now?" ...and so on, it would give the perfect feeling of understanding each other
Sahane
I thought kırım tatar is oğuz because ı clearly understand as a turkish. I see that you are interested in different turkic languages similarities. There isnt middle asia but you may be interested. ruclips.net/video/VmcnVqXz7tY/видео.html “Kalenin dibinde”
I feel like most of Crimean Tatar words are Oghuz, at least in literary language, and not just Oghuz but precisely very Turkish, they probably are loanwords from Ottoman. For example:
nasıl, olmaq, olaraq, dağ, çoq, ad, ile, genç, daa, degil, dağ, ebet, şöyle, öyle, böyle, çalışmaq, beñzemek, begenmek, doğmaq, deñişmek, yapmaq (to do), beklemek (to wait), istemek (to want), zor (difficult), ağır, ağız, -daki, diger, Tañrı, biñ, ordu, bazı, sayılmaq, episi, aynı, şey, ğaliba, üzerinde, içeri, qaç, ev, sevmek, ağlmaq, ögrenmek, dönmek, yağmur, baar, meraq...
and many more
@@bilgesez English is not a romance language, despite sharing more common words with French and Latin than with German, but nevertheless remains as Germanic language, same can be said about Crimean Tatar language.
@@NewJoodat I agree, the core is still Kypchak after all
@@NewJoodat my thoughts precisely. Some people have created a version of English that substitutes Old English words for their Romance counterparts in Modern English, search YT for Anglish to hear spoken examples.
Not turkic TURKISH. Enemies want to divide us!
Kırım you said bahar for spring just like in Turkish but it might not be original Turkish so maybe we should learn from the girl. We aslo say ilkyaz for spring.
TURKIC ☝🏻
İngilizce yazarken anlama adına belirteyim, Türkish = Türkçe. Turkey, Türkiye'ye Haçlıların verdiği isimdir. Osmanlıya Turkey, Turk Emperor diyorlardı, barbar Türkler idi.
Osmanlı kendini Türk imparatorluğu olarak adlandırıyordu. Osmanlı sonrasında Türki bir halk olmamızdan, Avrupalıların verdiği isimden dolayı yerli halk devlet seçimi ile de Türkiye adı verildi ülkeye.
Turkic, Türki bir bilimsel isimdir ve bunu değiştiremezsin. Linguistik, tarihi, genetiki bir bilimsel terim.
Ülkelere verilen ismi değiştirebilirsin ama. Sakha, Yakutya, SSCB, USSR, Rusya, Federal Almanya, Çekoslavakya - Çekya Slovakya. Ülke isimleri bilimsel değildir, ülkenin ve komşularının benimsediği şekilde bebeğe konulan isim gibidir. Bir ülke ölür, bölünür, yenisine yeni isim konur.
Kazakistan, Tataristan, Başkurtistan, Türkiye gibi bağımsız ya da özerk devletlerin halkları Türki diller konuşan Türki halklardandır.
Kazaklar, Kazak'tır Türkidir.
Tatarlar, Tatar'dır, Türkidir.
Türkmenler, Türkmen'dir, Türkidir.
Türkler, Türk'tür, Türkidir.
Kırgızlar, Kırgızdır, Türkidir.
Azerbaycanlılar, Azerbaycandır, Türkidir.
Proto Turkic dilde Türük sözcüğü kavim, kabile, aşiretlerin bütününe verilen isimmiş yani günümüzdeki Turkic ingilizce karşılığı.
@@islammehmeov2334 Turkish, go to your cave!
@@KoraySeldumanSaçmalama.
Gavurlar seni bölmekicin başka söz kulanmak isterler.
Türkiye sözü tarihte yoktur.
İtalyanlar em çok dillerde bir toplum adından ülke adi ia yada iya eklenerek türedilir! Dolaysile Türkiya deriz, Türkiye malesef feminin kaçar, yakışmaz.