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I’ve been using 5212 but differently and now match about 95% of your instructions and it so good. Personally I like the aesthetic of 3 in back and wing back bombing forward into open space. I can’t explain it other than it scratches a certain part of my brain
Starting using this formation with the depth on 70, really suits my playing style. The wide long/through balls for the RWB and LWB are always there, Cross into the box and you’ve usually got 4/5 players waiting in the area. Gone 8 wins with 0 draws and defeats since using it.
Honestly I was a bit skeptical at first, but this formation is the best one that I have used so far, the wingbacks are insane they are probably the most important thing in this formation they are always unmarked and they helped me score so many goals
I'm not even an average Fifa player but I play my best football using the 5-2-1-2, I also find it helps having the 3rd CB on the defensive. The main thing in this formation is your WBs must have very high stamina or you need 2 subs for those positions for the last 15-20 mins of the game
Maybe it was a good time of the day but I have been struggling for more than 1 month to get into division 5 and with this formation I had 4 wins in a row... I never had 4 wins in a row, so thanks for sharing.
Why is it everytime I change formation for fut champs it immediately is released in a video ffs. It was 3 at the back last year and then everyone went on it and now 5212
I'm not a world class player at fifa by a long shot, im was in div 4 so thought I would give these tactics a go, play 6 squad battles in world class and won 5 and drew 1, got confident/familiar with the way the tactics played so went a played fuf champs, played 5 and won 4 ,drew 1 and am now in div 3 half way to div 2, whilst in the process I qualified for this week's fuf champs, I must say these tactics are very good and have improved my game play alot, ive put it under attack custom formation as i didnt know if it was defence or ultra def but definitely will be sticking with these as its working for me and keep up the amazing content 👍
Literally tried this tactic for 3 games and was utterly annoying to play with. Not going with these tactics fam, I personally feel like 41212(2) is the best tactics atm
hey, you often say when you put the CB on Overlap, that they won't actually make an overlapping run. from my experience they actually do make overlapping runs while I am using the 3-5-2. and it wasn't an L1 or L1 pass that triggered it. it was basically when the opponent is siting deep and I am recycling the possession trying to find some space to get in. but so far this hasn't bitten me in the ass yet. as I easily notice it and they haven't countered me yet whilst this happens. and it's not that often that this happens.
Very effective if you run 3 cms normally as you can put the one who suits the cb role the most into the middle cb and let full backs get up and down. Preferably someone 6ft+ with good pace and defence
Don’t know about this formation cuz I use 5221 which is just pure meta for the last 4 FIFA’s I’ve used this and got to div 1 so might vid it a try , you should check out 352
Stumbled upon 3421 in drafts recently, think it’s right up your street Neal, insane overloads. Would love your thoughts or better still a vid with best tactics
been using that since november, it's good enough for elite rivals and 12-16 wins in WL depending on how hard you try. Some formations mess it up but I just forfeit out of those games, cba to play other formations.
Whats the difference between 5212 and 3412? I'm using 3412, wingers still come back to defend but they get forward faster and winger instructions seem better than wingbacks. No CDMs either, just 1 CM on stay back but he still comes forward from time to time. Only weird thing is that sometimes my RM comes to the middle when defending, no clue why he does that, no matter if it's Cuadrado or Vinicius.
@@MrMas383 Tried that, as well as the hug sidelines ig option. I dont have a problem with him during the attack, only when defending, probably those instructions are only for attack or idk.
First 3 games conceded 4 goals, 4 goals and then 6 goals. Full backs high leave you wide open at the back, wanted this to work but definitely not for me!
Changed from 433 standard to 4-2-2-2 but i’ve been wrongfully transfer banned so i defo need this formation with the fucking players im coming up against😂
It’s so annoying cause u give of the illusion that you know what ur talking about with ur pen thing but u actually know nothing. LWB and RWB just sat back the whole time and my CAM played CDM most of the game.
Modify the 4312 into 42112. 1. Pull your two CBs back to create a space for two DMs. 2. Pull your two CMs to the position of DMs. 3. Let all midfielders cover ONLY the center. 4. Let the CAM stay forward. 5. Let your two fast strikers stay central and get behind the defenders. 7. Play balanced/ possession/ fast 8. Keep every other level at 50%. You'll kill even the pros of the game with this 😃. The key is to overload the middle of the pitch and play simple short passes. Your through balls from the cam and cm is going to be devasting. THANK ME LATER 50%
I fucking love you Neal, came back from fifa 15 to this and I ran 5-4-1 back then and I was spanking the life out of everyone. This is such a throwback formation for me just slightly different and I am so hype to try this. Love your vids keep up the fantastic teaching
I’m gonna be honest. I use your 4231 tactics but adapted them myself win like most my game’s but this 5212 is crazy good when used correctly. My backUp when I’m struggling and just need a swap of style
After all these issues formations how to attack and defend I have just given up. Deleted. I cant stomach having my whole team stagnant for no apparent reason apart from the fact they have gold neymar and puyol in their team. Best wishes on your journey. Also I apologise now your tactics are pretty shit to be fair. Once in division 3 players and playstyle matter... not formations.
I'm sick of coming across this Anti football formation, not fun at all and that is the point of the game yeah to have fun??? People seem to have lost sight of that small little fact and ps if you learn how to actually defend you wouldn't need 5 at the back to begin with
Ggs for finding sick tactics and what works and you've helped me with fundamentals but in the same vain Fuck you for showing mandem a competitive 5 back 😅😂 all jokes love ya vids
@@NoGameNoLifeBlank it’s September mate. No one actually plays fifa anymore and if they do it’s not for playing games it for the packs. FIFA 24 comes out in like 2 weeks
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I’ve been using 5212 but differently and now match about 95% of your instructions and it so good. Personally I like the aesthetic of 3 in back and wing back bombing forward into open space. I can’t explain it other than it scratches a certain part of my brain
Have used this since the beginning. It gives you everything. The triangles of a 41212 along with great width from the wing backs.
Bro its so true it gives u everything
Wide or narrow?
@@jangeyapesunday57 the triangles of 41212 narrow. I personally use the 5212 on about 75 width.
Starting using this formation with the depth on 70, really suits my playing style. The wide long/through balls for the RWB and LWB are always there, Cross into the box and you’ve usually got 4/5 players waiting in the area. Gone 8 wins with 0 draws and defeats since using it.
Honestly I was a bit skeptical at first, but this formation is the best one that I have used so far, the wingbacks are insane they are probably the most important thing in this formation they are always unmarked and they helped me score so many goals
Be good to see another custom tactic update. I prefer using your 442 because I’m not the best at pressing manually
I'm not even an average Fifa player but I play my best football using the 5-2-1-2, I also find it helps having the 3rd CB on the defensive. The main thing in this formation is your WBs must have very high stamina or you need 2 subs for those positions for the last 15-20 mins of the game
Yeah for sure, I've been using Vasquez and Baku as wing backs, both got about 97 stam.
@@tl8601 mine were Spinnazola and Lazarri, changed right side to Cuadrado and he is great until 60 mins then can't run
@@robertpetch5182 i switch spinazzola with barella after 70 and bring a new blood to cm. barella really great at rb and he has 99 stamina
I got WW Trippier and HL Acuna starting with Cannon and Davies coming off the bench between the 60th and 70th minute.
I went back to your videos and copy this customs tactics a month ago and it’s booming for me . Great video champ
Just running a basic 4231 with very little instructions on works better than any "pro" tactics I've tried
Maybe it was a good time of the day but I have been struggling for more than 1 month to get into division 5 and with this formation I had 4 wins in a row... I never had 4 wins in a row, so thanks for sharing.
Struggling to get in div 5 😂😂
Why is it everytime I change formation for fut champs it immediately is released in a video ffs. It was 3 at the back last year and then everyone went on it and now 5212
It's still good after the patch?
this has somehow taken me down 250 skill points i was at 2000 idk why my players cant defend at all using this formation
I'm not a world class player at fifa by a long shot, im was in div 4 so thought I would give these tactics a go, play 6 squad battles in world class and won 5 and drew 1, got confident/familiar with the way the tactics played so went a played fuf champs, played 5 and won 4 ,drew 1 and am now in div 3 half way to div 2, whilst in the process I qualified for this week's fuf champs, I must say these tactics are very good and have improved my game play alot, ive put it under attack custom formation as i didnt know if it was defence or ultra def but definitely will be sticking with these as its working for me and keep up the amazing content 👍
Bro this change everything! Tank you
Used this formation in the draft the other day, absolutely loved the formation just like last year
Fantastic video - been using 5212 for last three weeks and loving it.
Bro.. thanks a lot.. best formation + tactics.. massively improved my wins
Literally tried this tactic for 3 games and was utterly annoying to play with. Not going with these tactics fam, I personally feel like 41212(2) is the best tactics atm
have been playing it myself 4 over a thousand games just have some backup formations
hey, you often say when you put the CB on Overlap, that they won't actually make an overlapping run.
from my experience they actually do make overlapping runs while I am using the 3-5-2. and it wasn't an L1 or L1 pass that triggered it. it was basically when the opponent is siting deep and I am recycling the possession trying to find some space to get in.
but so far this hasn't bitten me in the ass yet. as I easily notice it and they haven't countered me yet whilst this happens. and it's not that often that this happens.
Could be work rates, happened to me then I found out pique had High attacking work rates
@@uamdz680 both high def. Med att work rate.
Still they occasionally puah up
Very effective if you run 3 cms normally as you can put the one who suits the cb role the most into the middle cb and let full backs get up and down. Preferably someone 6ft+ with good pace and defence
Don’t know about this formation cuz I use 5221 which is just pure meta for the last 4 FIFA’s I’ve used this and got to div 1 so might vid it a try , you should check out 352
would you replace the 352 by this formation in a 4312/4231/352/442 set up
Clauss and Davies as the widemen works?
This tactics got me to ELITE!! Thanks Neal!
Stumbled upon 3421 in drafts recently, think it’s right up your street Neal, insane overloads. Would love your thoughts or better still a vid with best tactics
I agree when I used it in drafts I loved it the triangles were amazing and it wasn’t bad defensively
been using that since november, it's good enough for elite rivals and 12-16 wins in WL depending on how hard you try. Some formations mess it up but I just forfeit out of those games, cba to play other formations.
Whats the difference between 5212 and 3412? I'm using 3412, wingers still come back to defend but they get forward faster and winger instructions seem better than wingbacks. No CDMs either, just 1 CM on stay back but he still comes forward from time to time. Only weird thing is that sometimes my RM comes to the middle when defending, no clue why he does that, no matter if it's Cuadrado or Vinicius.
Try Stay Wide instruction on your RM
@@MrMas383 Tried that, as well as the hug sidelines ig option. I dont have a problem with him during the attack, only when defending, probably those instructions are only for attack or idk.
Rulebreaker kessie or if kante at cb in this formation ? Who is better do you think
Kante for me. How interceptions are top
@@RomanEmptage he is two feet though...
Such a fun formation! Tearing defences apart for fun w/ clauss and acuna… still conceding quite a few though
Would these tactics work with the 5221 as well? I got messi in an untradable pack, he's by far my best player so built my squad around him.
Such a coincidence. Just when I thought I need to use 5 back, this video comes out lol. Thanks...
Is this replacing the 352 in your current custom tactics for your team?
would roberto carlos work well in the LB spot? feel like his weak foot and passing might not be ideal when circling the ball to the CMs
First 3 games conceded 4 goals, 4 goals and then 6 goals. Full backs high leave you wide open at the back, wanted this to work but definitely not for me!
But where is the gameplay ?
Just tried this formation its absolutely fire 🔥
This formation has given me an absolute headache trying to use it. Impossible to defend while using it more like.
Fun to use but so so wide open at the back. You definitely score alot of goals but concede a shit load aswell
I can defend way better with this then with the 352 for some reason
What if I change my cms to cdms for this formation?
Clauss and Theo have more assists than anyone in my team using this formation.
What is your recommendation for bad ping?
Yes nealll keep up the grind loving it💪🏼💪🏼
You should really add some gameplay examples
best formation this year🐐
@@lucasw2578 not really, 5212 is better
This the formation I’ve been playing all this fifa lol
You forgot show strikers instructions
So every formation is ‘meta’ in your eyes?
every formation I make is meta, lmao you think im making non-meta videos? do you see some 3421? 4411?
Changed from 433 standard to 4-2-2-2 but i’ve been wrongfully transfer banned so i defo need this formation with the fucking players im coming up against😂
Im getting my ass handed by 4222. Im playing 433(4) everything balanced. With get behind,cut inside.
only thing missing from your vids is gameplay
Brilliant formation 5-2 against someone already first time using it. Keep the tactics videos coming neal your the man 👊🏻
Miles better than the 442 imo
It’s so annoying cause u give of the illusion that you know what ur talking about with ur pen thing but u actually know nothing. LWB and RWB just sat back the whole time and my CAM played CDM most of the game.
Get a life dude
42112 against any five back formation.
Thank me later
42112? You mean 41212 right?
@@mdasilva5599
No.
I meant 42112.
Modify the 4312 into 42112.
1. Pull your two CBs back to create a space for two DMs.
2. Pull your two CMs to the position of DMs.
3. Let all midfielders cover ONLY the center.
4. Let the CAM stay forward.
5. Let your two fast strikers stay central and get behind the defenders.
7. Play balanced/ possession/ fast
8. Keep every other level at 50%.
You'll kill even the pros of the game with this 😃.
The key is to overload the middle of the pitch and play simple short passes.
Your through balls from the cam and cm is going to be devasting.
THANK ME LATER
50%
@@stephenspionyarko5324 thank you very much for your reply and the information bro 🙏🏻 sounds absolutely great, I will try this tonight. 💪🏼
@@stephenspionyarko5324 one more question bro...
Let the LB and RB stay back?
Greetings
your 3-5-2 or this ?
I fucking love you Neal, came back from fifa 15 to this and I ran 5-4-1 back then and I was spanking the life out of everyone. This is such a throwback formation for me just slightly different and I am so hype to try this. Love your vids keep up the fantastic teaching
You went undefeated in fifa 15? 👍🏼
these are fucking dreadful tactics do not dare to even look at them
a lot of players are so bad, LMAO cant believe people saying dreaful tactics when its the best tactics rn omdd hahaha
I’m gonna be honest. I use your 4231 tactics but adapted them myself win like most my game’s but this 5212 is crazy good when used correctly. My backUp when I’m struggling and just need a swap of style
After all these issues formations how to attack and defend I have just given up. Deleted. I cant stomach having my whole team stagnant for no apparent reason apart from the fact they have gold neymar and puyol in their team. Best wishes on your journey. Also I apologise now your tactics are pretty shit to be fair. Once in division 3 players and playstyle matter... not formations.
Atal has low stamina
I'm sick of coming across this Anti football formation, not fun at all and that is the point of the game yeah to have fun??? People seem to have lost sight of that small little fact and ps if you learn how to actually defend you wouldn't need 5 at the back to begin with
Ggs for finding sick tactics and what works and you've helped me with fundamentals but in the same vain Fuck you for showing mandem a competitive 5 back 😅😂 all jokes love ya vids
L Video
First one here
Third💯
Second
Worst formation ever
No
@@NoGameNoLifeBlank I sent a year ago mate
@@ciarandonnelly4802 has your mind changed or explain why?
@@NoGameNoLifeBlank it’s September mate. No one actually plays fifa anymore and if they do it’s not for playing games it for the packs. FIFA 24 comes out in like 2 weeks
@@NoGameNoLifeBlank but my mind never changed with it. Might of been my play style I’m quite attacking but I hated this formation
Full backs at centre back is becoming mainstream once again 😂 it was only a matter of time.