I've done that a bunch of times over the years. Only tell the new company why you want the delay if it sounds good. For example, "I'd like to delay my start a couple of weeks because I'd like to leave things tidy at my current employer, rather than abandoning them." Another time I had planned to visit my elderly mother for her 85th birthday just three weeks after my start date. If someone has a problem with you wanting to visit an elderly relative, you don't want to work fro them, anyway. The one time I didn't say what I was doing was when I was planning on taking a medical leave of absence from the current job to give myself a month of recovery time before I started the new job.
I applaud you for getting rid of the multiple "likes" in the more professional responses. The peppering of the word "like" in random places is a good thing to avoid. I was just on a search committee, and one person didn't get the job because of overuse of the word "like." It's unprofessional and no one wants to listen to it. It also hurts your credibility.
Oh god I had such bad luck, I had two training shift at a new job then my grandfather passed away then I got sick the I went away for a 3 week trip that I had booked months in advance, I was so lucky that my work was understanding
Personally, I don't use the word "trip" because I feel it still gives a lot of information that I dont really want to disclose. I use the phrase "prior commitment" to avoid any questioning. Great tips though ❤
The questioning you'll receive. At least in Europe. Oeh where are you going on vacation? Not questioning. Just interest. And then if theyve also gone there, "oeh. What part. Yeah I loved x. You must try y!" It's kind of seen as a positive. Shows you plan shit, take initiatieve to do shit, are curious, contact with other cultures. Etc etc.
@@dutchik5107 In the U.S. we try to give our employers as little information about ourselves and our lives as possible. You never know who your boss is going to be, and if they are mentally sound or not. You would be surprised how many people twist things into a problem when there wasn’t one there originally, it’s almost as if they are on a very large power trip and are bored. I’ve had four bosses in total that fit that description and a lot of things became an issue or at least a potential one when it shouldn’t of been.
@@helsola123because in the us jobs are whack as hell and in europe working is like a dream (honestly thats probably not 100% sure for europe but they get lots of pto, infinite sick days bc you cant control your sickness, you get reimbursed for doctors notes if they ask you for one, you get paid maternity leave and i think paid paternity as well)
@@venusinariessame. Just got a new job today and the manager asked if friday (tomorrow) was good and I’m like uHhhm I’m actually going to the beach Saturday with my friends, would Sunday work better? Thankfully he said that was fine😂
I did this with my recently new job It is very effective. Makes you look like a team player while being honest. The time i got was so valuable and important to me. I highly recommend it
In all honesty, my last time interviewing for jobs, I brought it up DURING the interview process. Whoops! During the second/last interview, I mentioned I needed to take a couple days for my brother’s wedding, and that was a non-negotiable condition to me being hired. Still got the job, though!
Honestly. If you got refused. Would you ever want to work for a company that would "not allow" you to go to something planned like that. A family wedding.... I wouldn't. Even if I wanted off cause I had like concert tickets that were like 20 euros. I still wouldn't want to work for a place that doesn't let you take any time off for any reason
Same! I'm a PhD student and had a trip planned for a conference, I applied for a job and they knew I was studying, during the interview process I said that my week for the conference was non negotiable and I got the job! I was terrified to bring it up because it's my first interview and first job that I get!
Surprisingly perfect timing. My uncle was just having a similar problem and he was using it as an excuse to not look for a new job like he promised a month ago. Let's see what he has to say about this, Lol. Thanks a lot for your advice, Erin!
He wont get a job unless he has specialised training, her advices dont work for most people and if the noss is rhat stock up why would you want anyone you love to work there ?
@@draalttom844 I can't assume the boss is that stuck up if my uncle hasn't even started looking for a job. Of course, if the boss were to be like that, then I suppose he can just leave if he feels the need to. Regardless, whether Erin's advice is effective or not, it may be useful for him to get a hang of/test the environment he'll be working on (AKA: Testing the management).
I had to bring up my honeymoon during a job interview recently it is for almost 5 weeks right when they wanted me to start. I had seen this short before and tried to handle it as diplomatically as possible. I ended up getting the job and I'm doing training for two weeks before my honeymoon then hitting the ground running when I get back.
🇺🇸/🇪🇺 Manager: You can start on 1st July. 🇺🇸: Employee: I‘m so grateful that I can dedicate my life to the company. However, I already booked my non-refundable annual 3-day unpaid leave. But I would be more than happy to cancel that! 🇺🇸Manager: So you take leaves… not a good start. 🇪🇺 Employee: Yeah.. that’s not possible. I’m on a 3-week road trip on the US east coast. 🇪🇺 Manager: No worries. We will of course pay you there. BTW: I’ve been there last year for four weeks. I have some great restaurant tips for you….
@@GioBorselthat’s because it is 😂 I’m very lucky to have a boss that is willing to listen and doesn’t require me to use “business language” around her, but most managers are not nearly so kind, and will take any weaknesses they see as a reason to fire you
Could you talk a little bit more about thinking you were ghosted by your new company? I’m starting a new position at the end of the month and it’s been over a week since I spoke with the hiring manager and still haven’t received any paperwork or follow up. I sent an email a few days ago just as a gentle reminder asking if everything is still good to go and still have yet to receive a response and am starting to panic a bit 😓
For people in the UK - it's fairly common now for interviewers to ask if you have any planned time off/prior commitments/etc. This is purely to help schedule the best start date for both parties. It's not a trick question!
Greatest country in the world but, You don’t get…. 28 days holidays a year Free health care Free education Free prescription But you’ve got free speech 👍🏻
Please do getting a job while pregnant sonin essence you're only gonna work there a cpuple months before maternity leave In California too if that helps haha
Great advice. Most jobs I have gotten offers for in the situation would prefer delaying the start date. One time: I gave a three-week later start date, once offered, just to breathe for a week between the two-week notice period of toxic work environment and the start of the new role. It was unpaid, though much needed to unwind before diving into new everything. I didn't even mention it, I just mentioned that as my start date as soon as that conversation started.
Not sure if it's a US thing, but being in HR in the EU I can tell the company will wait for u if there is no option B, if you gel really well with interviwers during recruiting and if your skills are worth it. Bringing up unavailibility on the last minute of negotiations is from my perspective a bad move. If you tell out of the gate your starting point it will say a lot about honesty and liability. you don't need to go into details. That's why most of job sites over here will put in "please state your starting date", so this whole debacle is avoided. If the company is scrambling to fill the gap of the position and are at urgency they will most likely tell you thanx, but no thanx and go with the next best person.
❤ I had a similar situation. I kept quiet about it being to go see Beyonce. At least until it was time for me to go on the trip 😂, lol I regretted that eventually.
In the UK it's pretty standard for the new employer to honour pre existing holiday bookings, and will ask about them. My daughter's graduation day was literally on the third day after starting her new job so she flagged that up too, the instant response was "Of course we'll give you that day off, it's important!"
I had this exact issue with my current job. I did second option and they were so respectful in the reply. They also ensured I had a break from my old job on top of it and asked if I had any other holidays planned that I’d want.
When I started my current job I also had a holiday planned. I told them I had a holiday planned and told them that I could start the first, but needed time off after a week or that I could start the 15th, after I returned from my trip and that starting the 15th was my preferred option.
I’ve done this before too. It was super easy and they were very understanding. They even negotiated vacation hours into my sign on bonus since I needed surgery two weeks after starting.
“Hi, I have a trip in the next 6 month. I just wanted to let you know.” 🇺🇸: “…really? You are taking a vacation at the time where we need you the most (literally the lowest season). It’s not gonna look good during promotion opportunities. Well whatever, find someone to cover your shift and/or work 3 month without days off” 🇪🇺: “That’s awesome. I’m also taking a vacation during that month. I’ve actually been there last year, I know some good hotel and restaurants”
How do I tell my job that I have over 100 hours of PTO and I’m so burnt out that if they don’t give my my vacation for a week that I asked for six months from now that I’m legitimately going to consider working for a different hospital?! I’m giving 6 months notice and have WELL over the PTO hours I’m requesting? I’m so burnt out that I need this vacation for my mental health!
I’m expecting a decision regarding a job that I applied for within this week. So far, it’s promising. I did three rounds of interviews, the last one being a “working interview”. I did tell the manager during the first round that I have a pre-planned commitment for August to September for 4 weeks (my sister’s international wedding which involves me helping her prep plus the actual 1 wk of festivities) and she said we’ll talk about it more. How should i bring this up when they do actually present me with an offer?
Whoops. This is exactly why I didn’t take my job hunting seriously, because I was worried with the trip I got back from I wouldn’t be hired for taking off a full week of March. Now that the vacation is over, I need to seriously start applying.
Honestly that is SUPER FAIR. If the date gets pushed back- it is possible the PTO will still pay you from recent job. If you start immediately you may not get PTO but it also is less convenient for the employers possibly so more likely to go with pushing back. But you let them make the decision which is also super cool and fair
Anyone have any advice for me? I’m a religious Jew meaning I can’t work on any of the major Jewish holidays (which sometimes last over a week), at what point of the process do I bring that up?
I had that happen with one of the jobs that I started with. I started the beginning of July and told them that I had a pre-scheduled vacation where all the expenses had been paid for that was scheduled for the end of July and they understood. They said this happens all the time that they were very understanding
I started a new job on monday. During my second interview, after they ofered the position to me, I just told them I have to take the third week of april off due to a preexisting obligation. Nobody cared. Employers know that people plan vacations long in advance. Also I am european.
But then if you are joining a week before and then going on that vacation then aren't you taking your leave days from the new company. That doesn't seem to be favourable option?
Quick help: im looking for jobs rn but my grandpa who lives across the world just got cancer and if its malignant imma have to go at the drop of a hat and say bye- how do i communicate that?
Great advice, but I'd be concerned that the new employer would think I'm being pushy since I'm basically telling them that the only options they have are the two options I've given them, both of which suit me 😬
This is quite sensible. I'm on stage 2 of my interview, and I didn't know how to bring up me going for national service to them without them removing me from their consideration
Maybe it’s where I’m from but I’m almost all the interviews I’ve ever had they ask if you have any upcoming trips they should be aware of beforehand and I’ve never had it be an issue.
Every single time i hire a new person, they alway always have a "vacation scheduled" on the start date i provide... I find that rather annoying because if I want to hire somebody I don't care if you're going on a vacation and pushing off the date a week is really no big deal and makes no difference to me just tell me before I write the offer letter it's very annoying I have to flip flop and change everything as i start scheduling everything and now I have to redo all that work people that have never been a manager don't understand how much work it goes into creating a very good onboarding just be honest from the beginning if somebody really wants to hire you they're not going to care if you're going to start a little bit later... companies want people employed for the long run so whether you're going to start one week or two weeks is not going to make a difference you're not going to lose that job clearly you were selected because you are the best candidate just be honest it kind of starts off with the wrong foot if you don't do that
How did you become so well versed in 'business lingo'? Did you go to college for a certain degree? I've been self building my business lingo and you've helped a lot, but im curious how you got to the point that it's second nature I know these are scripted but I'm sure you could do this in a real life scenario too
I'm always just honest. Last 2 jobs I've gotten I've had a family trip planned in the middle of orientation and I just say I got a family trip planned and both times it's been no issue
This is so sad.. I am Italian and in the UK they ask you if you have got any holidays planned when they hire you so they know if they need to give you any days off work. I don't know if this is the same in Italy as I've never worked under a contract there - unfortunately 😢 - so in that case you don't even have the right to take holidays. As in you can ask for it, but there is no guarantee that the employee will allow any at all.
What do I do if they ask me during the interview if I have any trips planned for the next 3 months? Do I just take the L and tell them or say no and then lie that "something came up" when they offer me the job?
God, I'm in that boat. I have a trip planned in a month, but I'm also going from interview to interview. I'm worried on how to bring that up if I get an offer before that.
Is that what you really have to do in the US, do they not just ask you if you have any holidays booked? every job ive started here in the UK literally just ask you after they offer you the job or they ask you fill out a form.
Lack of labour rights in the US is still so wild to me. In most European countries, holiday is accumulated based on employment in general and the fact that you have to have holiday during a certain period of employment and unused holiday just transfers over. If you've worked for the past 6 months full-time, you do still need time off and rest from work in general, your new employment doesn't just re-start that clock. If you have time off booked and then end up switching jobs before it comes up, the new place of employment legally has to accommodate your pre-planned holiday and you don't have to mention it at all beyond just booking it off once you're hired. The only thing it does is that your probation gets extended by the amount time you're off work.
Ahhh this was scary! I watched this video a while back and just got a new job offer for a company that has put me in the exact position this video mentions. I'm thankful I remembered this so I could search for it again and use it to help me inform my new employer about it! It's really hard for me to be direct and to the point about stuff like this so I'm thankful I had an outline of what to say. Glad I subscribed!!
If you can't talk to your new employer like a normal human being instead of ChatGPT, they're a pain anyways. Any normal employer will understand if you say "Btw, I planned a vacation before I knew about this job"
Honestly right now I'd throw any vacation to get a job. I'm in the second semester of my bachelors and want a job at an actual company and not just work as a cashier (it's called a Werkstudent) and I continuously keep getting rejected :(
I usually say it during my first job interview that I have some previous commitments I can't postpone. I also say I'm going to need a month off every 15/18 months to visit my family in another country. Luckily it's not the US so I generally get 4 weeks of paid time off
My current job called with an offer when I was on my way to Scotland for 3 weeks. I was so frazzled and didn't respond well. Luckily, they were willing to wait for me.
I literally lost my job yesterday, but I knew I was gonna have to find a new job about a week ago. I have a few interviews lined up for jobs that I really want but the problem is is I have a vacation for seven days in early June and then I have accelerated college courses in the month of July which I think I’ll still be able to work full-time. I just am going to have to work my butt off and then I also have another five day vacation at the end of August. I had this all figured out with my other job and of course right before summer comes I lose my job, so I don’t know how I’m gonna bring this up to any of these possible places that might hire me. It’s not like I can wait a month to start this job but what am I gonna do? start the job, do the training, work for like a week or two and then go on vacation? UGHHH
I’m literally going through this right now except my vacation is in a month so I can’t wait a month to start my job but the problem is I have another vacation in three months. These vacations are only like five days long but it still sucks and I don’t know how to bring it up to whatever job I’m gonna take. I already had this figured out with my last job but that job just wasn’t working out so now I’m quickly looking for another one but it’s so hard to bring up that I already have two vacations in the next like 3 to 4 months.
I've been in this situation and handled it much like Erin's second version. I spoke as if there was no changing or canceling the trip. Instead of asking permission, I confidently gave them two choices, and they chose. If I had asked permission or hedged, they would have probably said no.
I've never negotiating a starting day with someone without allowing for these little bumps (trips or even children's school start date). A new person isn't going to land running so it's easy to flexible with the start date. (It gives me time to arrange training, do the intake paperwork, choose who they'll shadow with when they start.)
I am the queen of giving v specific advice lol ❤
And this is why we love you
That very specific advice gives skills and attitudes that promote general success ❤
Don’t “lol” that
You got this 👏👏 you slayed Erin
Please don’t use the AI text to speech. For the love of God. You have a nice voice.
You truly are, thank you so much for all your helpful tips❤
I've done that a bunch of times over the years. Only tell the new company why you want the delay if it sounds good. For example, "I'd like to delay my start a couple of weeks because I'd like to leave things tidy at my current employer, rather than abandoning them." Another time I had planned to visit my elderly mother for her 85th birthday just three weeks after my start date. If someone has a problem with you wanting to visit an elderly relative, you don't want to work fro them, anyway.
The one time I didn't say what I was doing was when I was planning on taking a medical leave of absence from the current job to give myself a month of recovery time before I started the new job.
Kinda fucked they wouldn't consider medical leave as a good enough reason. Health is wealth
@@dylann6800 It's a medical reason, yes, but... It's better not to talk about your previous job that led to burnout.
@@johabermuor makes sense
I applaud you for getting rid of the multiple "likes" in the more professional responses. The peppering of the word "like" in random places is a good thing to avoid. I was just on a search committee, and one person didn't get the job because of overuse of the word "like." It's unprofessional and no one wants to listen to it. It also hurts your credibility.
Oh god I had such bad luck, I had two training shift at a new job then my grandfather passed away then I got sick the I went away for a 3 week trip that I had booked months in advance, I was so lucky that my work was understanding
Desperately trying to get a new job and escape by toxic workplace but also getting married in a month and have 20 day vacation.
Personally, I don't use the word "trip" because I feel it still gives a lot of information that I dont really want to disclose. I use the phrase "prior commitment" to avoid any questioning. Great tips though ❤
The questioning you'll receive. At least in Europe.
Oeh where are you going on vacation?
Not questioning. Just interest. And then if theyve also gone there, "oeh. What part. Yeah I loved x. You must try y!"
It's kind of seen as a positive.
Shows you plan shit, take initiatieve to do shit, are curious, contact with other cultures. Etc etc.
@@dutchik5107ja precies, je blijft altijd meer vragen krijgen hoe dan ook
@@dutchik5107 In the U.S. we try to give our employers as little information about ourselves and our lives as possible. You never know who your boss is going to be, and if they are mentally sound or not. You would be surprised how many people twist things into a problem when there wasn’t one there originally, it’s almost as if they are on a very large power trip and are bored. I’ve had four bosses in total that fit that description and a lot of things became an issue or at least a potential one when it shouldn’t of been.
@@helsola123because in the us jobs are whack as hell and in europe working is like a dream (honestly thats probably not 100% sure for europe but they get lots of pto, infinite sick days bc you cant control your sickness, you get reimbursed for doctors notes if they ask you for one, you get paid maternity leave and i think paid paternity as well)
@@helsola123 Why would you want to work for such people then?
Dude, I swear there is always magically a damn trip planned around the time you need to start a job LOL
Every single job I’ve ever had! Even in high school!
Just reviewed my last two jobs changes...this!!!! Both onboardings had to ti delayed because of a preplanned trip. 100% recommend this approach!!!
@@venusinariessame. Just got a new job today and the manager asked if friday (tomorrow) was good and I’m like uHhhm I’m actually going to the beach Saturday with my friends, would Sunday work better? Thankfully he said that was fine😂
Happens more often than you think
I did this with my recently new job
It is very effective. Makes you look like a team player while being honest.
The time i got was so valuable and important to me. I highly recommend it
In all honesty, my last time interviewing for jobs, I brought it up DURING the interview process. Whoops! During the second/last interview, I mentioned I needed to take a couple days for my brother’s wedding, and that was a non-negotiable condition to me being hired. Still got the job, though!
Honestly. If you got refused. Would you ever want to work for a company that would "not allow" you to go to something planned like that. A family wedding....
I wouldn't.
Even if I wanted off cause I had like concert tickets that were like 20 euros. I still wouldn't want to work for a place that doesn't let you take any time off for any reason
Same! I'm a PhD student and had a trip planned for a conference, I applied for a job and they knew I was studying, during the interview process I said that my week for the conference was non negotiable and I got the job! I was terrified to bring it up because it's my first interview and first job that I get!
Surprisingly perfect timing. My uncle was just having a similar problem and he was using it as an excuse to not look for a new job like he promised a month ago. Let's see what he has to say about this, Lol. Thanks a lot for your advice, Erin!
He wont get a job unless he has specialised training, her advices dont work for most people and if the noss is rhat stock up why would you want anyone you love to work there ?
@@draalttom844 I can't assume the boss is that stuck up if my uncle hasn't even started looking for a job. Of course, if the boss were to be like that, then I suppose he can just leave if he feels the need to. Regardless, whether Erin's advice is effective or not, it may be useful for him to get a hang of/test the environment he'll be working on (AKA: Testing the management).
I had to bring up my honeymoon during a job interview recently it is for almost 5 weeks right when they wanted me to start. I had seen this short before and tried to handle it as diplomatically as possible. I ended up getting the job and I'm doing training for two weeks before my honeymoon then hitting the ground running when I get back.
Wooo! Congratulations on both the honeymoon and new job! 🎉🎉
That's awesome!! Congrats!
Even though I won’t need job advice for a few years, you saying “you got this” at the always just makes me feel better ☺️
🇺🇸/🇪🇺 Manager: You can start on 1st July.
🇺🇸: Employee: I‘m so grateful that I can dedicate my life to the company. However, I already booked my non-refundable annual 3-day unpaid leave. But I would be more than happy to cancel that!
🇺🇸Manager: So you take leaves… not a good start.
🇪🇺 Employee: Yeah.. that’s not possible. I’m on a 3-week road trip on the US east coast.
🇪🇺 Manager: No worries. We will of course pay you there. BTW: I’ve been there last year for four weeks. I have some great restaurant tips for you….
For real.
Honestly the US business world sounds like a nightmare.
@@GioBorselthat’s because it is 😂 I’m very lucky to have a boss that is willing to listen and doesn’t require me to use “business language” around her, but most managers are not nearly so kind, and will take any weaknesses they see as a reason to fire you
Yeah. Here if you say you love travelling it's seen as like a positive thing.
You have to take your vacations anyways!
In the UK we literally just need to let them know when we need to be off within the first 2 months of starting
This, everything about this. The U.S. is a shithole and I want to leave.
Could you talk a little bit more about thinking you were ghosted by your new company? I’m starting a new position at the end of the month and it’s been over a week since I spoke with the hiring manager and still haven’t received any paperwork or follow up. I sent an email a few days ago just as a gentle reminder asking if everything is still good to go and still have yet to receive a response and am starting to panic a bit 😓
Be wary of a company that takes a long time to decide. It may be that the position is non-essential, and you could be the first layoff down the road.
For people in the UK - it's fairly common now for interviewers to ask if you have any planned time off/prior commitments/etc. This is purely to help schedule the best start date for both parties. It's not a trick question!
I did this for my current job and they were so understanding. Thanks so much for the advice
Greatest country in the world but,
You don’t get….
28 days holidays a year
Free health care
Free education
Free prescription
But you’ve got free speech 👍🏻
The tap at the end always makes me feel warm inside. Like she reached through my phone and patted my back 😊
"Something something our processes aren't as flexible. It is now or never, take it or leave it something something..."
So American
In the UK you just let them know like it's completely normal.
No begging here.
I work with only men, so i just tell them and write it down. Then i get compensated for the week im gone. Simple.
Fantastic advice! 🤩👏🏼
I'm so proud of myself that this is practically exactly how I handled this situation.
Please do getting a job while pregnant sonin essence you're only gonna work there a cpuple months before maternity leave
In California too if that helps haha
Could also use the term ‘prior commitment’, that’s what I do. They don’t need to know what you’re doing lol.
Should I do this same thing if the "trip" is my wedding day?
Lol I have the same question
Great advice. Most jobs I have gotten offers for in the situation would prefer delaying the start date. One time: I gave a three-week later start date, once offered, just to breathe for a week between the two-week notice period of toxic work environment and the start of the new role. It was unpaid, though much needed to unwind before diving into new everything. I didn't even mention it, I just mentioned that as my start date as soon as that conversation started.
Not sure if it's a US thing, but being in HR in the EU I can tell the company will wait for u if there is no option B, if you gel really well with interviwers during recruiting and if your skills are worth it.
Bringing up unavailibility on the last minute of negotiations is from my perspective a bad move. If you tell out of the gate your starting point it will say a lot about honesty and liability. you don't need to go into details. That's why most of job sites over here will put in "please state your starting date", so this whole debacle is avoided.
If the company is scrambling to fill the gap of the position and are at urgency they will most likely tell you thanx, but no thanx and go with the next best person.
How about upcoming scheduled surgery?
❤ I had a similar situation. I kept quiet about it being to go see Beyonce. At least until it was time for me to go on the trip 😂, lol I regretted that eventually.
Why did you regret it
Option 3:
We're gonna go with our second option
In the UK it's pretty standard for the new employer to honour pre existing holiday bookings, and will ask about them. My daughter's graduation day was literally on the third day after starting her new job so she flagged that up too, the instant response was "Of course we'll give you that day off, it's important!"
I had this exact issue with my current job. I did second option and they were so respectful in the reply. They also ensured I had a break from my old job on top of it and asked if I had any other holidays planned that I’d want.
Then they reply saying No
Took so long you thought they ghosted you 😂
This couldn’t have come at a better time, thanks!!
Amen to this! I’m going thru the same!
I tried to anticipate the Erin tap, and ended up liking the video. 😂 Nice one! But seriously, wonderful advice!
When I started my current job I also had a holiday planned. I told them I had a holiday planned and told them that I could start the first, but needed time off after a week or that I could start the 15th, after I returned from my trip and that starting the 15th was my preferred option.
Bro like the amount of useful information you give me? They knowledge you know should be put in a curriculum and taught as a job readiness course.
I’ve done this before too. It was super easy and they were very understanding. They even negotiated vacation hours into my sign on bonus since I needed surgery two weeks after starting.
I don't know when I will need this information, but I just felt my future self give a sigh of relief, so thank you😂😊
Aka don’t over explain, give minimal information, get to the point, and tell them after you get hired.
“Hi, I have a trip in the next 6 month. I just wanted to let you know.”
🇺🇸: “…really? You are taking a vacation at the time where we need you the most (literally the lowest season). It’s not gonna look good during promotion opportunities. Well whatever, find someone to cover your shift and/or work 3 month without days off”
🇪🇺: “That’s awesome. I’m also taking a vacation during that month. I’ve actually been there last year, I know some good hotel and restaurants”
How do I tell my job that I have over 100 hours of PTO and I’m so burnt out that if they don’t give my my vacation for a week that I asked for six months from now that I’m legitimately going to consider working for a different hospital?! I’m giving 6 months notice and have WELL over the PTO hours I’m requesting? I’m so burnt out that I need this vacation for my mental health!
I’m expecting a decision regarding a job that I applied for within this week. So far, it’s promising. I did three rounds of interviews, the last one being a “working interview”. I did tell the manager during the first round that I have a pre-planned commitment for August to September for 4 weeks (my sister’s international wedding which involves me helping her prep plus the actual 1 wk of festivities) and she said we’ll talk about it more. How should i bring this up when they do actually present me with an offer?
Whoops. This is exactly why I didn’t take my job hunting seriously, because I was worried with the trip I got back from I wouldn’t be hired for taking off a full week of March. Now that the vacation is over, I need to seriously start applying.
Honestly that is SUPER FAIR. If the date gets pushed back- it is possible the PTO will still pay you from recent job. If you start immediately you may not get PTO but it also is less convenient for the employers possibly so more likely to go with pushing back. But you let them make the decision which is also super cool and fair
I had a potential job ask me during the interview if I had any trips planned within the next six months. Was that a red flag? It sure felt like one.
Anyone have any advice for me? I’m a religious Jew meaning I can’t work on any of the major Jewish holidays (which sometimes last over a week), at what point of the process do I bring that up?
I had that happen with one of the jobs that I started with. I started the beginning of July and told them that I had a pre-scheduled vacation where all the expenses had been paid for that was scheduled for the end of July and they understood. They said this happens all the time that they were very understanding
I started a new job on monday. During my second interview, after they ofered the position to me, I just told them I have to take the third week of april off due to a preexisting obligation.
Nobody cared. Employers know that people plan vacations long in advance.
Also I am european.
But then if you are joining a week before and then going on that vacation then aren't you taking your leave days from the new company. That doesn't seem to be favourable option?
just came back from my vacation and I start my new job after 7 weeks of job hunting 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻…on april 8th ;)
Quick help: im looking for jobs rn but my grandpa who lives across the world just got cancer and if its malignant imma have to go at the drop of a hat and say bye- how do i communicate that?
Great advice, but I'd be concerned that the new employer would think I'm being pushy since I'm basically telling them that the only options they have are the two options I've given them, both of which suit me 😬
Would you say it's suggested as well when your moving within same employer but different job position
I would say yes if your line manager is changing.
Don’t assume they’ll be checking your PTO requests proactively.
This is quite sensible. I'm on stage 2 of my interview, and I didn't know how to bring up me going for national service to them without them removing me from their consideration
Maybe it’s where I’m from but I’m almost all the interviews I’ve ever had they ask if you have any upcoming trips they should be aware of beforehand and I’ve never had it be an issue.
Every single time i hire a new person, they alway always have a "vacation scheduled" on the start date i provide... I find that rather annoying because if I want to hire somebody I don't care if you're going on a vacation and pushing off the date a week is really no big deal and makes no difference to me just tell me before I write the offer letter it's very annoying I have to flip flop and change everything as i start scheduling everything and now I have to redo all that work people that have never been a manager don't understand how much work it goes into creating a very good onboarding just be honest from the beginning if somebody really wants to hire you they're not going to care if you're going to start a little bit later... companies want people employed for the long run so whether you're going to start one week or two weeks is not going to make a difference you're not going to lose that job clearly you were selected because you are the best candidate just be honest it kind of starts off with the wrong foot if you don't do that
How did you become so well versed in 'business lingo'? Did you go to college for a certain degree?
I've been self building my business lingo and you've helped a lot, but im curious how you got to the point that it's second nature
I know these are scripted but I'm sure you could do this in a real life scenario too
I'm always just honest. Last 2 jobs I've gotten I've had a family trip planned in the middle of orientation and I just say I got a family trip planned and both times it's been no issue
This is so sad.. I am Italian and in the UK they ask you if you have got any holidays planned when they hire you so they know if they need to give you any days off work. I don't know if this is the same in Italy as I've never worked under a contract there - unfortunately 😢 - so in that case you don't even have the right to take holidays. As in you can ask for it, but there is no guarantee that the employee will allow any at all.
What do I do if they ask me during the interview if I have any trips planned for the next 3 months? Do I just take the L and tell them or say no and then lie that "something came up" when they offer me the job?
Yeeeeaaaaah I am firing someone right now for taking a vacation during their 90 day probation. This may not work for all lol
God, I'm in that boat. I have a trip planned in a month, but I'm also going from interview to interview. I'm worried on how to bring that up if I get an offer before that.
Is that what you really have to do in the US, do they not just ask you if you have any holidays booked? every job ive started here in the UK literally just ask you after they offer you the job or they ask you fill out a form.
Honestly I just tell them straight up that I have a trip like the first example. Why beat around the bush, we all know the truth of it
Hi Erin! How can I tell a new company that I'm getting married in a few months? Thanks! ❤
Me trying to look for a new job a month before a seven week vacation to visit my spouse...
I’m still looking for a new job and I have a Disney trip in June.
Europe: i have a vacation
.. : Job: ok have fun. See you in a couple of weeks
If you really want the job, change your vacation plans.
And then you wake up and realize that real employers don't act like this
I had to do something like this for my current job, it went well.
Lol! I am still gonna pick the first option 😂😂😂
I mean they usually ask during your interview
If they're not ok with you going on a vacation and wording it as such, gtfo
Every time I got a job offer and told them that they never called me back
That’s great cause I had a trip planned in the finger lakes
They in general here in fort collins do not hire offer letter or not
Noooo April 8th is the eclipse and you can see a meteorrrrr
What do you do when they do not give you a written offer?
Reality; You tell them professionally and they rescind the offer.
Why?
@@Koolkole27I’ve had new hires who had this happen to them. Idk why. Businesses suck.
I could’ve used those two weeks ago
Thank you !! Will be needing this soon lol
I had to do this but with a surgery
Thank you for sharing this
Not the hair twirl 😂 cute
Exactly what I did
Lack of labour rights in the US is still so wild to me. In most European countries, holiday is accumulated based on employment in general and the fact that you have to have holiday during a certain period of employment and unused holiday just transfers over. If you've worked for the past 6 months full-time, you do still need time off and rest from work in general, your new employment doesn't just re-start that clock. If you have time off booked and then end up switching jobs before it comes up, the new place of employment legally has to accommodate your pre-planned holiday and you don't have to mention it at all beyond just booking it off once you're hired. The only thing it does is that your probation gets extended by the amount time you're off work.
Ahhh this was scary! I watched this video a while back and just got a new job offer for a company that has put me in the exact position this video mentions. I'm thankful I remembered this so I could search for it again and use it to help me inform my new employer about it! It's really hard for me to be direct and to the point about stuff like this so I'm thankful I had an outline of what to say. Glad I subscribed!!
If you can't talk to your new employer like a normal human being instead of ChatGPT, they're a pain anyways. Any normal employer will understand if you say "Btw, I planned a vacation before I knew about this job"
Honestly right now I'd throw any vacation to get a job. I'm in the second semester of my bachelors and want a job at an actual company and not just work as a cashier (it's called a Werkstudent) and I continuously keep getting rejected :(
I usually say it during my first job interview that I have some previous commitments I can't postpone. I also say I'm going to need a month off every 15/18 months to visit my family in another country. Luckily it's not the US so I generally get 4 weeks of paid time off
My current job called with an offer when I was on my way to Scotland for 3 weeks. I was so frazzled and didn't respond well. Luckily, they were willing to wait for me.
I literally lost my job yesterday, but I knew I was gonna have to find a new job about a week ago. I have a few interviews lined up for jobs that I really want but the problem is is I have a vacation for seven days in early June and then I have accelerated college courses in the month of July which I think I’ll still be able to work full-time. I just am going to have to work my butt off and then I also have another five day vacation at the end of August. I had this all figured out with my other job and of course right before summer comes I lose my job, so I don’t know how I’m gonna bring this up to any of these possible places that might hire me. It’s not like I can wait a month to start this job but what am I gonna do? start the job, do the training, work for like a week or two and then go on vacation? UGHHH
I’m literally going through this right now except my vacation is in a month so I can’t wait a month to start my job but the problem is I have another vacation in three months. These vacations are only like five days long but it still sucks and I don’t know how to bring it up to whatever job I’m gonna take. I already had this figured out with my last job but that job just wasn’t working out so now I’m quickly looking for another one but it’s so hard to bring up that I already have two vacations in the next like 3 to 4 months.
I've been in this situation and handled it much like Erin's second version. I spoke as if there was no changing or canceling the trip. Instead of asking permission, I confidently gave them two choices, and they chose. If I had asked permission or hedged, they would have probably said no.
I've never negotiating a starting day with someone without allowing for these little bumps (trips or even children's school start date). A new person isn't going to land running so it's easy to flexible with the start date. (It gives me time to arrange training, do the intake paperwork, choose who they'll shadow with when they start.)
I'm literally watching this from a wedding that pushed back my start date to April 15