roberto5red5rocky it’s because u don’t really understand how important the right supporting cast and especially second star of any championship team is
Every genuine real hooper know how important Scottie was to Jordan and the Bulls. No Pip, no rings. It always starts with defense and to be a 2 way playmaking forward in the league is very tough, not to mention to be one of the best defenders in the league. Stats do play a part in how we view how great a player but I've always looked at the intangibles on why that makes the player great that never gets mentioned. Coach Nick mentioned about Scotties cutting within the game, like that's a skill, but small details like that is what can determine a bucket or not. I'm sure he is a not only a great on-ball defender but a team defender, defensive positioning and timing, active hands, communicating and calling out switches, being a leader, and being a straight dog on the court. You start to realize that not everyone does this or only does some things well. I think the docuseries portrayed him fine, that whole first episode was dedicated to him. There's so many different factors that play into winning. We all knew it was the documentary was going to surround MJ anyways, its the GOAT we talking about here. We don't ever hear him talk. Pippen is very underrated and very important to winning. General fans will shrug him off just simply looking at his stats.
Pippen made me love to play defense as a kid.I use to study his moves/choices on defense and then go outside ,guard the other team best player .High IQ and willing to help out whoever on his team was having trouble .He was clearly the best defender on the bulls,yes even better than MJ
@@antuanleach6762 Pippen guarded Magic for 1 game. I'm old enough to have watched the 91 finals. Jordan was the primary defender on Magic evey time they played each other.
I also studied him. He was a better overall defender since he was a master at team defence, but to me one-on-one Jordan was better. Spending most of his career on the Bulls made many people see him as just some other player but that is so far from the truth.
Stop it! MJ was DPOY right? Was pippen? Pippen avg 5.3 assist with the Bulls/Mj avg assist with the Bulls 5.4 /Scottie ppg avg with the Bulls 17.7 . So MJ avg 30.1 ppg to scotties 17.7/MJ 5.4 apg to scotties 5.3. And both had 9 all defensive first team selections, but MJ won DPOY, Scottie didn't. But you lebron a** kissers are now trying to say scottie was the reason MJ won.Oh yeah I goggled all these stats 3x. So I if these stats are wrong goggle them yourself championships. I would say it was Phil, and Tex Winter they're coaches
Batman and Robin? More like MJ was Superman and Scottie was Batman. He may not have the same "super powers" that Superman MJ was born with but he made up for it with his immense IQ and different skill set that made him just as important....
@@alliesstartedww1308 Okay that's going too far lol, the Justice League needed both Superman & Batman. They're both the leaders, if you said it was like King & Shadow/Dark King I'd agree. Why I say this is because there has been too many instances where true power instead of intelligence was needed or even preferred like Superman to save the Justice League in many occasions, you can't beat the real powerful villains by being weak yourself. That's just plot armor, which seems to be Batman's real superpower by the way.
I remember that series where Pippen guarded Mark Jackson, picking him up from half court almost every possession. Absolutely unbelievable. MJ got the MVP, but Pippen really deserved it. MJ gave him the car that came with the trophy.
furyofbongos There was no MVP for ECF which is when they played Mark Jackson and the Pacers. Guarding an old slow Mark Jackson wasnt exactly the greatest defensive performance ever
@@cowboys4ever348 I'm speaking on Scottie Pippen. I know how good Jordan was, and comparing Pippen to him only shows how good Pippen was. 8 consecutive 1st team defense for Pippen.
Their first full year without Jordan, they went 55-27 and Scottie was clearly the best player on that team. People forget about the value of Scottie on that team.
And what happened in the playoffs ??? 55-27 means little in the regular season if u bust in the playoffs. Scottie was a back-up player that cannot be compared to Jordan. Just look at Pippen's years after the Bulls...
@@mybrokipp its funny you mention Pippen’s years after MJ. Pippen went past the 1st round 6 times without MJ, failed 7 times. MJ only got 1 and 9 fails
@@duperfat5646 and how did Scottie perform in those playoffs and how did MJ perform in his runs ??? 63 pts against 5 hall of famers...what did Scottie do exactly ? Just drop it kid
@@mybrokipp scottie led the bulls in every single major stat category while taking them to the conference semi-finals, one bad ref call from making the conference finals. Mj took his bulls to 1st round exits 9 times without scottie, only past it once. I already told you this shit, how many times you gotta ignore the facts? 🤡
@@mybrokipp 63 pts then bounced in the 1st round. By your logic, TMac had an all time great career by putting up numbers in the 1st round but never leading a team past it
Scottie is one of the best players to ever dribble a ball. I really don't understand the hate this man gets. If he didn't have the back injuries he would have won outside of Chicago. His defense was beautiful to watch.
I don't see any hate towards him, even documentary had nothing against him, his own questionable actions attracted some bad image, but overall nobody questions his greatness on court.
His stats are mediocre at best.If MJ putting up 30.1 ppg to scotties mediocre 17.7, to me that's descent, but not great. Steals pg MJ led the league 3x,, pippen did it once when MJ was playing baseball.Pippen bad mouthing a man that did nothing but praise him because MJs son is sticking it to his ex- wife. Pippen is a ungrateful so called friend that needs therapy bad.
They should definitely have shown more of Scottie but the media acts as if he was portrayed as a villain which he was not. I think overall he even gained more repect and appreciation. I never viewed his game 6 performance like that until the "doc". But overall it was disappointing. So many wasted opportunities. 500 hours? Where?
I think The Last Dance portrayed him as a sympathetic figure that the Bulls as an organization took advantage of. I gained more respect for Scottie after the last dance. He was getting paid pennies for his value yet without him there are no championships.
@@MikeM-np4od Yeah I think the narrative that Scottie was "portrayed badly" is way overblown! It's not like the doc lied about Scottie in any way or misrepresented his character. Yes, I agree they should've shown more of his highlights than his lowlights, but the lowlights neither overshadow his importance to the team nor tarnish his legacy in ANY way, at least not to me. He still helped bring us 6 rings, which I think is damn impressive and deserving of respect!
@@TheUltimateRage I agree. I thought that maybe my bias as a Bulls fan made me see it like that. They didn't make Scottie look bad at all imo. Any mention of the team winning reflects well on Scottie. Not sure why ESPN has to blow it up like that.
@The Duke You must not know the Bulls to say Scottie was in any way portrayed negatively. Clearly it revealed (something we knew already) that Scottie was very valuable and underpaid and was fighting with administration. The documentary shows Jordan giving praise to Scottie so I don't get where your ideas come from.
@@MikeM-np4od without him Jordan would of still won championships he's the greatest player ever. It's just they wouldn't have won 6 maybe 3-4. Then again without him Jordan might of had a different number 2 that did the job just as well so Jordan could've won the same amount the narrative that Jordan would win 0 without pippen is ridiculous. Kareem won without magic, LeBron won without Wade etc all the goats would've won period
Love this video! Scottie has long been one of my all-time favorite players (and I picked his jersey number as my own). This is precisely why - he did everything really well, but not for himself. He played team basketball at the expense of his own stats, making the right plays and putting in the raw effort to win. He gets undervalued due to his stats not being as great as they could be, but the Bulls would not have won as much with a statistically better #2 player replacing Pippen. All time great that deserves more respect than he gets.
Facts! Not to make this about LeBron, but it's one of the reasons why we value Mike as THE GOAT and not LeBron, the fact that it's not all just about stats! Don't get me wrong, stats are definitely a big factor when we talk about greatness, but let's take someone like Robert Horry. He never put up great stats, never was an allstar, never was a scoring machine or defensive juggernaut, but he had intangibles like being arguably the most clutch role player of all time. WINNING should be the ultimate factor in determining greatness, which is why this whole IT vs Stockton on the Dream Team debacle has been ongoing. IT may not have had the most amazing stats in the world (Stockton holds all time record in assists and I think one of the most durable players ever), but IT won 2 chips and FMVP to Stockton's ZERO.
@@TheUltimateRage that just it though, the narrative of Pippen not being a clutch player is false. Pippen throughout his career made clutch shots, not just defensive as the media push on the masses. And the focus on his mistakes to try to prove his could be a main event player is crazy. Every superstar had missteps, but adds to the story of their to tell. We all have a story to tell, I refuse to let anyone diminish the story I'm meant to tell.
@@TheUltimateRage Ughhh no Winning should not be the only barometer. Just bc Derek fisher got 5 Rings don't mean he better than CP3 or Stockton on anyday
4browsing my fault I shoulda elaborated more, I was just impressed because usually the stars of the team sometimes tend to be not too involved if the ball’s not in their hands
@4browsing Pippen was a great second option but let's not pretend that he could be the best player in a championship team. Give MJ Barkley, Ewing, Drexler,Malone or any other superstar of the 90s and he wins multiple championships.
Don't forget one of his biggest contributions, a massively undersized contract that ensured the Bulls could stack their lineup with solid role players.
@@DesroQc Krause was literally stacking the Bulls, in 97 for example, with players that would have been signed by the Jazz. For of course way less money too.
The great wing defenders includes MJ, Payton, Kawhi, Paul George, Kobe, Artest, Michael Cooper, Robertson, Mo Cheeks, Derek Harper, Moncrief, Dumars, DJ Johnson, Baylocks, Bowen, Beverly, Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler and Igoudala. Pippen could do everything the guys above did above. That how good he was on D and here the many reasons why. - Physicality - Pippen was very physical, Artest is stronger but Pippen bodied the likes of Barkley, Magic, and Malone. - Motor and Energy - Pippen was a constant pest on D. He dove for loose balls and got charges from weak side. He was constantly chasing the ball. Some guys above guarded the man with the ball. Pippen did that around the court. He got from one the opposite side 3 pt line to contest shots. - Size. Pippen Kawhi has the same wingspan. That is freaky long arms because Kawhi has big hands anad wide shoudlers. - Athleticism. Only MJ and Kobe match Pippen. Pip could jump, was explosive, had underrated speed, and agility. Compared to Kawhi, Kawhi doesn't jump as high, is as quick or explosive. - Hands. All the guys above have good hands or a special steal technique like Kawhi, Payton, Igoudala, MJ, Robertson. Pippen didn't have one type of steal, he did them all. He had the poke at entry pass, pass deflects, lane jumps, ball handler pokes, layup strips, and jump shot strips. - IQ. This separates Pip from other guys because some shutdown guys just worry about their man.They aren't focused on Team D. Pippen was the shot caller just like Draymond. If you play basketball, you know who that guy is. Pippen knew all the player and team tendencies and how to help on D. - The eraser. This is LBJ block, the guy that takes the charge, the guy that helps from weak side D, and takes a away a sure fire bucket from the other team.
I’ve always loved pip. I have much more respect after the last dance. I too have been under appreciated and over shadowed at work. I still laced up my boots (in the morning)with something to prove. Jordan and Pippen were blueprints for the modern 🏀 player. He also had an amazing b-ball IQ..
I'm from the same County in Arkansas as Scottie Pippen Ashley County, He's from Hamburg, I'm from Crossett Arkansas, 15 miles up the road, Rural America. Scottie Pippens Defense alone was Impeccable, He may be the best 3 Small Forward Defender Ever, His offense was a Bonus, But His Long Arms and Big Hands✋🏽made for some of the Best Posterizing Dunks Ever, Underrated in my Book
How was Scottie portrayed poorly? The negative aspects of his career - the contract issues with the bulls and not getting his surgery right away, the trade demand, the migraine game, the Knicks Kukoc debacle - did happen and Scottie had a chance to speak his truth and he did. He even said he wouldn’t change a thing. The doc also portrayed pippen as an invaluable piece of the bulls dynasty - the video quoted MJ himself. They showed he toughed it out in game 6 of the 98 finals through the bad back. How was he portrayed soooo negatively as jay bilas and Horace grant were saying??
How did it do Scottie dirty? It really wasn't about emphasizing Scottie. It was mostly to talk about Jordan and the issues in the last year they played together. Scottie can make his own documentary.
@@soulsearch1234 Well they shouldn't have titled it "The Last Dance." It was supposed to be about the whole Bulls team last title run. I mean, they should have titled it Jordan dcoumentary or just simply MJ smh.
@@judahmourneth3211 see saying stupid shit like that is why casuals disrespect Pippen. Shaq, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Bird dont win shit w/out there number 2 guys stepping up, as well as an excellent coach.
@@corey2232 anyone can do it on some rare occasions. We are talking about consistently doing it and that's not what pippen was at all... Especially not in his playoff runs
Glad to see this about Scottie. For a while, I thought he compared well to Lebron James. It’s hard to make that comparison now with LBJ’s championships, but as a passer, defender, finisher, and in terms of IQ Scottie stacks up pretty well. But MJ said it himself-he wouldn’t have won without Pippen. Even Game 6 vs. Utah in ‘98 when Pippen was injured and MJ had 45, Pippen still made some key plays.
Pippen made key plays like how Kyrie/Wade made key plays. "Jordan wouldn't have won without Pippen" is redundant because nobody wins without help (ie. you can say that for anybody). Game 6 in '98 was MJ's game, he made *3 consecutive solo plays* to bring his team from down 3 (40secs) to win the chip on the road.
Lebron got lucky, GS lost draymond in that series. People dont understand how players like him have a great impact on a team and only see scorers as stars. I think Pip is actually the better player compared to lebron, its just that lebron gets the same media hype that jordon got. If you look at lebrons impact on a team, his passing is not as great as people make him out to be. Not to mention forcing the lebron system on his teamates and half the time the team dosent know wtf to do, cuz they got no real plays. Scottie did it inside the blend of offense system.
@@perryellis9645 You should never be allowed to comment about basketball again. I can tell you're not a hooper. You're regurgitating talking points from people that you watched who are smarter than you, without taking anything into context.
@@DsLmaNiaC Reggie ain't locking Magic down in the NBA finals.Reggie would've gotten cooked against elite competition.Scottie was the best wing defender ever period and averaged multiple 20ppg 6assist and rebounds while locking the primary wing threat on every team. Hakeem is arguably the best center ever so that's like asking LBJ could win swapping prime DWade for Prime Kobe.
I dont gotta explain shit. Yall the ones with the goofy ass story. MJ got all the MVPs. Scottie played 6 more yrs after MJ and didnt do shit. Why couldnt he save anybody else like he saved MJ?? STFU! Yall need to finish school. You dont have enough common sense to talk basketball with me.
Scottie Pippen was the only reason i watched NBA i was only 6-10 y/o at the time. hes soo underrated =( i even cheer for the Blazers till this day because he went to them after the bulls
Honestly Jordans retirement was the best thing for them to run away with another 3peat. The second 3 peat was nice because Scottie had the experience now also of being the leader. Scottie was an excellent defender and covered space, provided great help and transition steals and also man to man. Jordan was no sloutch in this department either.
We just have to remember that if it wasn't for Phil Jackson's change of strategy in having the team play as a whole and developing other players game to a better level, and I'm speaking of Scottie's game as the most crucial for this matter, they wouldn't be the two times three-peat team we all know and love.
Minister C. Politics Luc Langley the 7’2 centre for the Bulls. His ability to pass within the triangle offence made him very valuable in my opinion. A solid Aussie b baller.
As a die hard Bulls Jordan Pippen fan, I didnt see it that the Last Dance portrayed Scottie that bad, remember this documentary was supposed to impose to us the reality of the hardships and negativities to be where they are now, AL TIME GREATEST!
The 90s are full of back to the basket players and brute Centers & PFs. Plays are mostly 70% coming from the low post, 20% on pick n roll/ pick n pop and 10% are set plays for mid range, easy layups % 3pt shots. So yeah that is the lack of spacing because not much shooters and a lot of low post plays and its reason why it was more physical then.
Actually Pip would fit in with any superstars and offensive system. Not to mention he scores inside the system and he hardly ever holds the ball more then couple sec, so he never takes away from the flow. Alot of superstars cant get another superstar to do what scottie did and had the ability to do. Scottie was so rare, you could net positive 100%, while most other stuperstar duo would never be able to get that from each other and also force offensive stagnation.
Coach, as someone who has played basketball professionally overseas and also college ball in the US, I had my fair share of coaches. Most of them know one or two sets and understand a few concepts. Your understanding of the game and sheer curiosity about the players and their roles in their respective teams is impressive. I rarely miss your videos. Can’t say enough positives about it.
I’ve been saying this since the Last Dance. When Mike is telling you how Scottie played an EXISTENTIAL role in his success, LISTEN TO HIM! For without Scottie, there would be NO 6 rings. To prove how successful Mike was not without Scottie, just look at 3 key periods of MJs career: 1. Before Scottie, when Scottie was a Bull but was not playing due to injury/contractual disputes, and after separating from Scottie. You will see 1 common theme: Mike either wasn’t making the playoffs, getting bounced early from the playoffs, NEVER won a conference final and NEVER won a ring. This may explain why a prime Jordan never signed with ANYONE else but with Scottie even though he signed a bunch of 1 year contracts. And no wonder, MJ couldn’t go deep without Scottie. So really, Scottie is EQUALLY as important. Checks this: Scottie, without MJ, was able to take the Bulls just as far in the post season as MJ without Scottie. Said another way, MJ, without Scottie, was UNABLE to take the Bulls any farther than Scottie was able to take them without MJ. This has to be considered when speaking about the GOAT. Should the GOAT be one who was successful only under a very limited set of circumstances while proving not to be as successful while not playing under those circumstances and REFUSED to even challenge himself to win a ring outside of those circumstances.? Wouldn’t a better candidate be a player who isn’t similarly depended on any one player to win a ring and who is willing to take the risk to prove it is more about HIM than them? Wouldn’t that player edge Jordan? So ask yourself who is the only other player in the GOAT discussion that fits that description? It’s the guy that left a champion team to play for the 2nd worse team in the NBA (who had never won a ring) and beats the NBA’s winningest (and arguably the greatest) team of all time though being down 3/? Long live the King!!!
LMAO Jordan only played two seasons as Bull without Pippen, Pippen was riding the bench when he joined the Bulls, wasn't a top 5 player on the team. The Bulls had the best record in the East when Pippen was injured in 97-98. The Wizard were a 19 win team & were on a 50 win pace until Jordan tore his meniscus. LeBron left the aging Wade & Bosh to join young fresh stars in Kyrie & Love, that's not a challenge, that's an upgrade.
I thought Pippen was treated fairly in TLD. I mean, there was a whole episode devoted to him. They emphasized how underpaid he was, and one of the interviews called him a top 10 player in the league at the time.
I agree. But the thing is, it felt to me, as how I have watched it, that he was portrayed as a selfish guy. Don't get me wrong but yeah they appreciated his game as he was one of the main reason for the Bulls' success. But at some parts, specially that '98 season he was portrayed as if he only thinks about himself, as if he doesn't wanna play with the team anymore. But it was just him protesting that he was underpayed by the management. And also that migraine game. Why would they even put that game? As if he was superman that can play through that. So, yeah I get where he's coming from.
Coach Nick needs to appease the LeBron guzzlers, because that’s what makes up the majority of his audience. Nothing will help him get more views than slyly tilting the needle against Jordan ever so slightly.
Jan Errole Lol he was selfish in that 98 season... I 100% agree with Scotty but he chose to have his surgery later that season after winning the 97 championship. He did that cause he was underpaid you tell me if it’s selfish or not... mind you I would’ve done the same thing..
Without Scottie, Mike may have filled up a stat sheet but he wasn't going to win a ring. No matter how good you are, you are not handling a constant double or triple team in a 7 game series.
Not denying Scottie's incredible talent, but he had his chance when Jordan retired, but both times he has performed below average in the playoffs. Phil Jackson doesn't even trust him to take the last shot, that tells you what Phil thinks of him performing under pressure and spotlight. In a twisted way, Scottie is able to be Scottie because Jordan takes all the spotlights and pressure, allowing Scottie to be Scottie.
@@trevonwindley5664 Pippen without Jordan had a 3peat team with 6 new players, Hakeem & Barkley & a team that made the conference finals the year before without Pippen. Jordan without Pippen joined the 2nd worst team in the NBA in a stacked conf. In his 2nd season he lost his 3 best player from the yr before, making that team worse than the team he joined.
@@actionjacksonfive8775 Thank you. I'm tired of these bullshit narratives that take facts way out of context for the sake of, well, pushing a bullshit narrative. MJ took the Bulls to the Eastern Conference Finals and took two games against an all time great Pistons team (they literally didn't lose any games in the entire playoffs outside of the two to the Bulls) with his second best player being a 2nd year Pippen averaging 14 points a game in the regular season and like 10 points a game in that series. What MJ did that season is more impressive than what Pippen did in '94.
As strong as Michael was, he is a paranoic who lived just to get imaginary revenges on his mind, often against people who really didn't do nothing against him. And during all his career and later on, as paranoic as he was and is, he needed to tell his own story about himself, and his professional career; he never, never stand the possibility of someone criticize him. And in large part, he was so good in telling his own story, that even today everyone believe him. He was maybe the best player ever lived, but he convinced everybody that he had never lost; he convinced everybody that, he won the first 3 titles by himself; he convinced everybody that he never missed a clutch. In all his imagination and in the recent videos, all the people who can contradict those stories were his worst enemies: Isiah is clearly number one, being the one who bullied Michael for so many years, and refusing Michael being over him, when in the end, Isiah lost to him. Even Pip became an attempt to his stories... because very few champions had a second guy strong as Pip was, at least from the 80es moving forward.
He did...look at all the detractors! On this video alone. Most cats seem to think that he arrived in 90/91! Phil,Tex,and Pip are barely mentioned. I just read that the other players were journeymen and castoffs. Not rebounding champions,3pt champions,or all stars from other teams...IJS.
Great video. I grew up a Bulls fan and I tried to pattern my game after Scottie. To me he’s the ultimate do everything player. But, the Last dance documentary didn’t portray him wrong. That’s just who Pippen was for better or worse. Even as a fan I understood who he was. Look at his Houston Rocket year. It ended terrible because of how Scottie mishandled himself in the media. Scottie is he who is, we can’t cover up for him
Every winning team has a second best guy on the team, then the third and so on. Each of those guys sometimes until the 7th guy play vital roles in championship runs. Sometimes even other guys step up, like when Scottie had migraines or back issues. Even guys like Fisher for the lakers, vital to them winning, not just Shaw Kobe. Bird man that one year, vital to that ring!!
Thank you for putting Scottie as a top perimeter defensive player of all time. I remember that there were games where I watched Bulls games almost exclusively concentrating on what Scottie does in defense. It was incredible.
Pippen was NOT displayed in a bad way in the last dance. This is just Grant's sensibilities and media bs. You don't have to portray people as perfect in order to respect them. Pippen was not perfect, and we as fans absolutely love that. People make mistakes we don't blame him for those mistakes.
Scottie wasn’t robin he was tony stark/iron man. flawed but learned from his mistakes and brought the avengers together and was willing to take sacrifices for the better of the team. Iron man wasn’t the strongest, the fastest, or even the most popular but when all is said and done he was what made the avengers possible
I seen it myself that MJ won the chip when Pip wasnt even an all-star in 1991 and in game 6 of 98' finals Pippen did nothing and MJ won. Plus prime Grant Hill was better than Scottie. You think swap Hill for Scottie doesn't make Bulls even better?
@@meg-k-waldren You didn't see Scottie shutdown Magic in the 91 finals? Pippen was an all around player that consistently did anything the team needed. Grant Hill may have been a better scorer? Scottie Pippen 6 Grant Hill 0.
@@waynemazique6556 you didn’t see 91 finals, because after game 5 ends, Pippen is interviewed in locker room, saying that is why Phil decided to stick with Michael defending Magic. You dudes over hype 3 quarters of defense in 1 game, & turned it into 5 games. Smh. 31 years later, & you guys are still being disingenuous, exaggerating, & revising history.
@@waynemazique6556 who was Grant a #2 option too on the level of Jordan? No one. So why even say 6-0, when Pippen has 0 finals MVPs? Smh. Grant Hill was a franchise player since a rookie, Pippen in year 7, got 1st chance to lead a team, j he quit semi finals, game 2, with 1.9 seconds remaining. By 2nd year he’s begging for a trade, & wearing Jordan’s pointing at the cameras saying comeback.
I also feel like Horace Grant and Toni Kukoc are underrated. I can understand that The Last Dance did not focus on Grant, who left after the first threepeat. But they seriously neglected Kukoc, who was a huge part of the second threepeat, and a huge part of that final championship, arguably more important than Dennis Rodman.
People seem to not understand. Points doesnt make you a better teamate, its those robins who accept their role in the team and have their egos aside. If scottie was arrogant he would have left the bulls cause he was underpaid. Dont underrate but for sure dont overrate him too much
Jordan also had to set his ego aside to play in the triangle. It's not a coincidence Jordan stopped averaging 35+ppg when he played in the triangle. Jordan was also underpaid until the last 2 years and he didn't leave either. Pippen is a top 50 all-time great and one of the best robins in the history of the game, that's not underrating him.
Anyone who says Scottie was overrated either has no knowledge of basketball, or doesn't appreciate the game. Other than LeBron or Larry, he's the small forward you'd pick for any all -time team.
I think you made great points as always. Although what does hurt Pippen's legacy is that after 1993, he wasn't the best playoff performer. He did have an MVP caliber 1993-94 season, but he did fall flat on his face during the playoffs against the Knicks, particularly in games 5-7 although I'll at least give him a good games 1, 3 and 4 and it was thanks to Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong that the Bulls even took the Knicks to 7 games that year. During the second 3-peat, MJ did have to do more because Pippen wasn't as great he was during the first 3-peat. He also wasn't all that great in 95 against the Magic, but I'll blame that series more on the Bulls' lack of interior defense since MJ was averaging 31 ppg that series.
Yeah his offensive game took a hit in the playoffs after the first three peat, although he did have a great '97 finals. I think injuries played a big role, as he had serious injuries in '98 and he injured himself sometime in '96 and didn't shoot the same after that.
Well it was a Jordan documentary with a side of Bulls, not a Bulls documentary with a side of Jordan. Pippen and his team can make his own documentary if he’s really that worried about it
Lemme just say this. Michael Jordan would never be Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen. Idc what people say but he is the greatest perimeter defender you'll ever see.
MJ won MVP, Scoring title (35ppg), Steals title (3.2stl), Slam Dunk Champion, and DPOY(3.2stl/1.6blk) in the same season Pippen was a rookie bench warmer. Jordan was individually the best player in the league while Pippen was a bench warmer, pretty sure he was doing fine w/o Scottie.
Scottie glides around the court with proficiency like no other. He would WIN multiple Championships if he was paired up with any other one of the top ten players in the NBA from any era. Mr. Smooth Operator!
His biggest value to the team was as the glue guy, the do everything guy who was secure enough to let Jordan be himself without jostling him for the spotlight. He was a lesser version of LeBron James in that he was a Swiss army knife who could guard everyone from John Stockton to Clyde Drexler to Magic Johnson to Allen Iverson to Charles Barkley. Contrary to popular legend, he also showed up huge in a lot of the big games. Both the 1993 and 1997 Finals ended on great Pippen defensive plays. He was a legend in his own right.
MJ had double the win shares for both regular season and even more in the playoffs than Pippen. He also led in defensive win shares every year in the playoffs. They weren't equals on any level.
Pippen was an amazing player and one of my favorites ever. If I had to pick a team of 5 to play a game for my life I'm picking MJ and Pippen at shooting guard and small forward. The two of them together were just unstoppable.
He deserves more respect, Jordan wouldn't be the GOAT who went 6-0 in the finals without him, he is probably the second/ third best all around player behind Lebron and Magic. Jordan wouldn't be the GOAT without Scottie or all the other people who helped him from Jordan's Teammates, coach, mother, trainer and many more, all of them should be more well respected. I hope that thanks to the Last Dance maybe people will start to give Scottie and all the people who help Jordan the respect that they deserve. Scottie knew what he was doing, he knew he wasn't the star of the team and he knew his role, he was ok not being the star and played the role of the second option without complaining, he did a bit of everything and is the kind of player everyone needs, he played the role as the second option as if he was born to be Jordan's Robin. We might never see someone as good as Scottie who will play the role as Robin ever again.
How is Bron better than Pippen ? In what category ? They preety similar in gameplay , both great with out question , but i am wondering how you put Bron first...
@@JL-wh5xu i am not , Pippen is better for me with closed eyes . But it is stupid to compare in general . So i would say that i like more Pippen than James.
@@stekons so you like pippen more but lebron is better? Lebron is a better finisher, better 3 point shooter, better post game, post passing, overall speed, transition game, rebounding, passing, do i need to go on?
It's often the young jordan fans that dismiss pippen. Pip had such a great all around game, definitely a huge reason the Bulls propelled into the dynasty they became
Any documentary or special or bio can mention negativity about any athlete or celebrity or an event even. The majority of the time whenever a doc or bio or special is presented it’s existence is based on the positive impact he or she or it had on us. I’m 39 and I absolutely still love sports and music just like I did when I was a kid. Scottie Pippin was, is and always will be M.P.G. “My Personal Goat”. I don’t need a documentary or special or biography to inform me about anything positive or negative for that matter about Scottie. I love Mike just like anyone else but Scottie did everything and anything that you can do as a basketball player. When Mike was putting up points, Scottie was putting up numbers in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. This was something I noticed as a young kid and now I realize just how special he was and basketball fans today need to know what kind of player Pippen was and how the right needs the left, MIKE NEEDED SCOTTIE!!!!!
Hey Coach Nick can you do a video of the greatness of Moses Malone or Wes Unseld. I believe these 2 to be the most underrated MVPs of all time. Especially Moses cause he won the MVP twice and led a below .500 80-81 rockets to the NBA finals, beating Magic and Kareem on the way to the finals. Eventually losing to Bird.
Lakers had Kareem and Magic, won 3 titles, Bird and Mchale, won 3 titles, Jordan and Pippen won 6 titles, Kobe and Shaq 3 titles, Lebron with Bosh and Wade (in their prime) won 2 titles against young pup OKC and aging Spurs. Got trashed by Dallas and Spurs (duncan was 37, ginobili 36). LOL
the dallas team swept kobe's back to back championship lakers lol. spurs were #1 that season if I'm not wrong. wade wasn't healthy especially their second season together. his knees were giving up already.
@@jasons4045 Yeah from a typical Bron fan. Never ran out of excuses. Pippen returned from injury mid way through the season in 98. Was playing through injury against Jazz in 98. MJ led them to win. Kobe was swept by Dallas in 2011 that is why Kobe is not the GOAT. Kobe fans are better coz they never make excuses unlike Bron fans who always lower the rim for Bron. LOL.
@@isaiahprice36 Again excuses. LOL. Duncan and the Spurs were way past their primes in 2014. Lebron, the phony GOAT is in his prime. His support cast Wade and Bosh are way younger than Ginobili. Parker is just the same age as wade. Kawhi is just a pup at that time yet prime bron gave him FMVP.
🤣😂🤣😂 then you support migraine excuses, Future, bad surgery decisions, bad contract decisions, not being an all-star in 1991 while MJ won the chip, doing zero in gm 6 of 98' finals while MJ won the chip, being prejudice against Kukoc over skin color while refusing to enter a pivotal playoff game, missing 2 FTs in gm 3 of the Pacers series which resulted in series going 7, not scoring at all in 4th QTR of gm 6 vs Suns such that the Paxon game winner was the only 4th QTR Bulls basket not scored by MJ, and betraying MJ decades later in order to sell stupid bourbon.
All i can say is everyone has negative side but it doesn't mean that scottie is bad. This Chicago team is absolutely a great team with Jordan and Pippen.
Michael: basketball’s goat
Scottie: goat second fiddle
Coach nick: goat of ad transitions
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as important ? my god i cant even watch this BS
roberto5red5rocky it’s because u don’t really understand how important the right supporting cast and especially second star of any championship team is
The GOAT? Michael Jordan
The Second fiddle GOAT? Scottie Pippen
The GOAT of ad transitions? Coach Nick
Hotel? Trivago
Scottie voice should be part of the Avengers
Every genuine real hooper know how important Scottie was to Jordan and the Bulls. No Pip, no rings. It always starts with defense and to be a 2 way playmaking forward in the league is very tough, not to mention to be one of the best defenders in the league. Stats do play a part in how we view how great a player but I've always looked at the intangibles on why that makes the player great that never gets mentioned. Coach Nick mentioned about Scotties cutting within the game, like that's a skill, but small details like that is what can determine a bucket or not. I'm sure he is a not only a great on-ball defender but a team defender, defensive positioning and timing, active hands, communicating and calling out switches, being a leader, and being a straight dog on the court. You start to realize that not everyone does this or only does some things well. I think the docuseries portrayed him fine, that whole first episode was dedicated to him. There's so many different factors that play into winning. We all knew it was the documentary was going to surround MJ anyways, its the GOAT we talking about here. We don't ever hear him talk. Pippen is very underrated and very important to winning. General fans will shrug him off just simply looking at his stats.
Well said. Scottie knows real fans care about his legacy.
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No pip no 2nd round
Unfortunately there are faaaaar to many non hoopers who just don't get it🤷🏾♂️
@@catman63 yep, sure was pip 3 points against Cleveland that took them to Second round.
Watching Pip play defence is just beautiful. 10x All-Defence
He shoulda won DPOY in his career at some point frfr. Kinda reminds me of Klay Thompson's underrated defense but obviously better.
Kobe fans will tell you Kobe has more
@@TheUltimateRage Agreed. Two of my favourite players
@@DubCmusicTV yea Kobe has more that’s true but Pip was just different.
Pippen made me love to play defense as a kid.I use to study his moves/choices on defense and then go outside ,guard the other team best player .High IQ and willing to help out whoever on his team was having trouble .He was clearly the best defender on the bulls,yes even better than MJ
91 Finals proved that
@@antuanleach6762 Pippen guarded Magic for 1 game. I'm old enough to have watched the 91 finals. Jordan was the primary defender on Magic evey time they played each other.
I also studied him. He was a better overall defender since he was a master at team defence, but to me one-on-one Jordan was better. Spending most of his career on the Bulls made many people see him as just some other player but that is so far from the truth.
Stop it! MJ was DPOY right? Was pippen? Pippen avg 5.3 assist with the Bulls/Mj avg assist with the Bulls 5.4 /Scottie ppg avg with the Bulls 17.7 . So MJ avg 30.1 ppg to scotties 17.7/MJ 5.4 apg to scotties 5.3. And both had 9 all defensive first team selections, but MJ won DPOY, Scottie didn't. But you lebron a** kissers are now trying to say scottie was the reason MJ won.Oh yeah I goggled all these stats 3x. So I if these stats are wrong goggle them yourself championships. I would say it was Phil, and Tex Winter they're coaches
Batman and Robin?
More like MJ was Superman and Scottie was Batman.
He may not have the same "super powers" that Superman MJ was born with but he made up for it with his immense IQ and different skill set that made him just as important....
This. 100%. I always said the same thing. Glad to see other people also feel the same way. Thank you.
Yeah, I always disdained calling Pippen a little boy
batman was the leader of the JL like how pippen carries the defense and helps playmakes
Great comparison he def wasn't Robin
@@alliesstartedww1308 Okay that's going too far lol, the Justice League needed both Superman & Batman. They're both the leaders, if you said it was like King & Shadow/Dark King I'd agree. Why I say this is because there has been too many instances where true power instead of intelligence was needed or even preferred like Superman to save the Justice League in many occasions, you can't beat the real powerful villains by being weak yourself. That's just plot armor, which seems to be Batman's real superpower by the way.
I remember that series where Pippen guarded Mark Jackson, picking him up from half court almost every possession. Absolutely unbelievable. MJ got the MVP, but Pippen really deserved it. MJ gave him the car that came with the trophy.
furyofbongos There was no MVP for ECF which is when they played Mark Jackson and the Pacers. Guarding an old slow Mark Jackson wasnt exactly the greatest defensive performance ever
@@christiansoldier77 Excuses. Didn't matter how fast, slow, or strong they were, he was a hell of a defender.
@@hansmransm8835 So was Jordan. 9X 1st defensive team while leading the league in scoring 10 times
@@cowboys4ever348 I'm speaking on Scottie Pippen. I know how good Jordan was, and comparing Pippen to him only shows how good Pippen was. 8 consecutive 1st team defense for Pippen.
Their first full year without Jordan, they went 55-27 and Scottie was clearly the best player on that team. People forget about the value of Scottie on that team.
And what happened in the playoffs ??? 55-27 means little in the regular season if u bust in the playoffs. Scottie was a back-up player that cannot be compared to Jordan. Just look at Pippen's years after the Bulls...
@@mybrokipp its funny you mention Pippen’s years after MJ. Pippen went past the 1st round 6 times without MJ, failed 7 times. MJ only got 1 and 9 fails
@@duperfat5646 and how did Scottie perform in those playoffs and how did MJ perform in his runs ??? 63 pts against 5 hall of famers...what did Scottie do exactly ? Just drop it kid
@@mybrokipp scottie led the bulls in every single major stat category while taking them to the conference semi-finals, one bad ref call from making the conference finals. Mj took his bulls to 1st round exits 9 times without scottie, only past it once. I already told you this shit, how many times you gotta ignore the facts? 🤡
@@mybrokipp 63 pts then bounced in the 1st round. By your logic, TMac had an all time great career by putting up numbers in the 1st round but never leading a team past it
Scottie is one of the best players to ever dribble a ball. I really don't understand the hate this man gets. If he didn't have the back injuries he would have won outside of Chicago. His defense was beautiful to watch.
I don't see any hate towards him, even documentary had nothing against him, his own questionable actions attracted some bad image, but overall nobody questions his greatness on court.
His stats are mediocre at best.If MJ putting up 30.1 ppg to scotties mediocre 17.7, to me that's descent, but not great. Steals pg MJ led the league 3x,, pippen did it once when MJ was playing baseball.Pippen bad mouthing a man that did nothing but praise him because MJs son is sticking it to his ex- wife. Pippen is a ungrateful so called friend that needs therapy bad.
GOAT of sneaking those promotions in his vid 🤣
I laugh every time. I also click the links, solely because he catches me off guard with the ads lol. I'll support creativity
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They should definitely have shown more of Scottie but the media acts as if he was portrayed as a villain which he was not. I think overall he even gained more repect and appreciation. I never viewed his game 6 performance like that until the "doc".
But overall it was disappointing. So many wasted opportunities. 500 hours? Where?
I think The Last Dance portrayed him as a sympathetic figure that the Bulls as an organization took advantage of. I gained more respect for Scottie after the last dance. He was getting paid pennies for his value yet without him there are no championships.
@@MikeM-np4od Yeah I think the narrative that Scottie was "portrayed badly" is way overblown! It's not like the doc lied about Scottie in any way or misrepresented his character. Yes, I agree they should've shown more of his highlights than his lowlights, but the lowlights neither overshadow his importance to the team nor tarnish his legacy in ANY way, at least not to me. He still helped bring us 6 rings, which I think is damn impressive and deserving of respect!
@@TheUltimateRage I agree. I thought that maybe my bias as a Bulls fan made me see it like that. They didn't make Scottie look bad at all imo. Any mention of the team winning reflects well on Scottie. Not sure why ESPN has to blow it up like that.
@The Duke You must not know the Bulls to say Scottie was in any way portrayed negatively. Clearly it revealed (something we knew already) that Scottie was very valuable and underpaid and was fighting with administration. The documentary shows Jordan giving praise to Scottie so I don't get where your ideas come from.
@@MikeM-np4od without him Jordan would of still won championships he's the greatest player ever. It's just they wouldn't have won 6 maybe 3-4. Then again without him Jordan might of had a different number 2 that did the job just as well so Jordan could've won the same amount the narrative that Jordan would win 0 without pippen is ridiculous. Kareem won without magic, LeBron won without Wade etc all the goats would've won period
Love this video! Scottie has long been one of my all-time favorite players (and I picked his jersey number as my own). This is precisely why - he did everything really well, but not for himself. He played team basketball at the expense of his own stats, making the right plays and putting in the raw effort to win. He gets undervalued due to his stats not being as great as they could be, but the Bulls would not have won as much with a statistically better #2 player replacing Pippen. All time great that deserves more respect than he gets.
Facts! Not to make this about LeBron, but it's one of the reasons why we value Mike as THE GOAT and not LeBron, the fact that it's not all just about stats! Don't get me wrong, stats are definitely a big factor when we talk about greatness, but let's take someone like Robert Horry. He never put up great stats, never was an allstar, never was a scoring machine or defensive juggernaut, but he had intangibles like being arguably the most clutch role player of all time.
WINNING should be the ultimate factor in determining greatness, which is why this whole IT vs Stockton on the Dream Team debacle has been ongoing. IT may not have had the most amazing stats in the world (Stockton holds all time record in assists and I think one of the most durable players ever), but IT won 2 chips and FMVP to Stockton's ZERO.
@@TheUltimateRage that just it though, the narrative of Pippen not being a clutch player is false. Pippen throughout his career made clutch shots, not just defensive as the media push on the masses. And the focus on his mistakes to try to prove his could be a main event player is crazy. Every superstar had missteps, but adds to the story of their to tell. We all have a story to tell, I refuse to let anyone diminish the story I'm meant to tell.
@@TheUltimateRage Ughhh no Winning should not be the only barometer. Just bc Derek fisher got 5 Rings don't mean he better than CP3 or Stockton on anyday
Dang, Coach Nick really speedboosting irl 😂
Lmao that transition thooo😂😂💯💯
Today is full of Scottie stories, must be his birthday...
Or his wake. -_-
@Tony Montorner im an mj fan
It’s so interesting watching Bulls highlights that aren’t just MJ scoring, yet he’s always involved in some movement
4browsing mj made pippen. So it’s obvious he would be brought up.
Thad Jarvis stop taking Scottie shine
4browsing my fault I shoulda elaborated more, I was just impressed because usually the stars of the team sometimes tend to be not too involved if the ball’s not in their hands
Cole Clawson for sure coaching greatness, I just forget how ruthlessly efficient the whole team became in running the triangle.
@4browsing Pippen was a great second option but let's not pretend that he could be the best player in a championship team. Give MJ Barkley, Ewing, Drexler,Malone or any other superstar of the 90s and he wins multiple championships.
Don't forget one of his biggest contributions, a massively undersized contract that ensured the Bulls could stack their lineup with solid role players.
Imagine thinking the Bulls were "stacked"...lmao.
@@DesroQc Krause was literally stacking the Bulls, in 97 for example, with players that would have been signed by the Jazz. For of course way less money too.
The great wing defenders includes MJ, Payton, Kawhi, Paul George, Kobe, Artest, Michael Cooper, Robertson, Mo Cheeks, Derek Harper, Moncrief, Dumars, DJ Johnson, Baylocks, Bowen, Beverly, Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler and Igoudala. Pippen could do everything the guys above did above. That how good he was on D and here the many reasons why.
- Physicality - Pippen was very physical, Artest is stronger but Pippen bodied the likes of Barkley, Magic, and Malone.
- Motor and Energy - Pippen was a constant pest on D. He dove for loose balls and got charges from weak side. He was constantly chasing the ball. Some guys above guarded the man with the ball. Pippen did that around the court. He got from one the opposite side 3 pt line to contest shots.
- Size. Pippen Kawhi has the same wingspan. That is freaky long arms because Kawhi has big hands anad wide shoudlers.
- Athleticism. Only MJ and Kobe match Pippen. Pip could jump, was explosive, had underrated speed, and agility. Compared to Kawhi, Kawhi doesn't jump as high, is as quick or explosive.
- Hands. All the guys above have good hands or a special steal technique like Kawhi, Payton, Igoudala, MJ, Robertson. Pippen didn't have one type of steal, he did them all. He had the poke at entry pass, pass deflects, lane jumps, ball handler pokes, layup strips, and jump shot strips.
- IQ. This separates Pip from other guys because some shutdown guys just worry about their man.They aren't focused on Team D. Pippen was the shot caller just like Draymond. If you play basketball, you know who that guy is. Pippen knew all the player and team tendencies and how to help on D.
- The eraser. This is LBJ block, the guy that takes the charge, the guy that helps from weak side D, and takes a away a sure fire bucket from the other team.
That’s great but after this year your list of good defenders needs to chsnge
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I’ve always loved pip. I have much more respect after the last dance. I too have been under appreciated and over shadowed at work. I still laced up my boots (in the morning)with something to prove. Jordan and Pippen were blueprints for the modern 🏀 player. He also had an amazing b-ball IQ..
I'm from the same County in Arkansas as Scottie Pippen Ashley County, He's from Hamburg, I'm from Crossett Arkansas, 15 miles up the road, Rural America. Scottie Pippens Defense alone was Impeccable, He may be the best 3 Small Forward Defender Ever, His offense was a Bonus, But His Long Arms and Big Hands✋🏽made for some of the Best Posterizing Dunks Ever, Underrated in my Book
How was Scottie portrayed poorly?
The negative aspects of his career - the contract issues with the bulls and not getting his surgery right away, the trade demand, the migraine game, the Knicks Kukoc debacle - did happen and Scottie had a chance to speak his truth and he did. He even said he wouldn’t change a thing.
The doc also portrayed pippen as an invaluable piece of the bulls dynasty - the video quoted MJ himself. They showed he toughed it out in game 6 of the 98 finals through the bad back.
How was he portrayed soooo negatively as jay bilas and Horace grant were saying??
It is true. MJ and Pippen needed each other to win and both players pulled their weight.
Pippen is the greatest sidekick who helped MJ the GOAT win rings
The last Dance really did Scottie Pippen dirty and I am glad that you made a video to show us how great he actually was. So thank you coach
How did it do Scottie dirty? It really wasn't about emphasizing Scottie. It was mostly to talk about Jordan and the issues in the last year they played together. Scottie can make his own documentary.
@@soulsearch1234 Well they shouldn't have titled it "The Last Dance." It was supposed to be about the whole Bulls team last title run. I mean, they should have titled it Jordan dcoumentary or just simply MJ smh.
Dobz jordan is the bulls.
@@dobz746 whatever the title, it was meant to emphasize the greatness and issues surrounding Jordan.
@@judahmourneth3211 see saying stupid shit like that is why casuals disrespect Pippen. Shaq, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Bird dont win shit w/out there number 2 guys stepping up, as well as an excellent coach.
Pippen could also take over a game, let’s not forget this!!!
Stop
yes he could,in his dreams.
@@juventinos81 You know something about offense, playmaking on top of defense only in your dreams, casual.
@@shonensaiyan I mean, he's 100% right though. He did on many occasions.
@@corey2232 anyone can do it on some rare occasions. We are talking about consistently doing it and that's not what pippen was at all... Especially not in his playoff runs
Glad to see this about Scottie. For a while, I thought he compared well to Lebron James. It’s hard to make that comparison now with LBJ’s championships, but as a passer, defender, finisher, and in terms of IQ Scottie stacks up pretty well. But MJ said it himself-he wouldn’t have won without Pippen. Even Game 6 vs. Utah in ‘98 when Pippen was injured and MJ had 45, Pippen still made some key plays.
Pippen made key plays like how Kyrie/Wade made key plays. "Jordan wouldn't have won without Pippen" is redundant because nobody wins without help (ie. you can say that for anybody). Game 6 in '98 was MJ's game, he made *3 consecutive solo plays* to bring his team from down 3 (40secs) to win the chip on the road.
Lebron got lucky, GS lost draymond in that series. People dont understand how players like him have a great impact on a team and only see scorers as stars. I think Pip is actually the better player compared to lebron, its just that lebron gets the same media hype that jordon got. If you look at lebrons impact on a team, his passing is not as great as people make him out to be. Not to mention forcing the lebron system on his teamates and half the time the team dosent know wtf to do, cuz they got no real plays. Scottie did it inside the blend of offense system.
@@perryellis9645 You should never be allowed to comment about basketball again. I can tell you're not a hooper. You're regurgitating talking points from people that you watched who are smarter than you, without taking anything into context.
They’re both point forward, Lebron more physically dominate, but Pippen more skilled Pippen can play without the ball
@@perryellis9645 I agree from a more skilled point of view, while Lebron is more dominate
I fully agree, MJ without Scottie would not have been so successful.
For example swap Scottie for Hakeem or Reggie and they win less right? WRONG.
@@DsLmaNiaC Reggie ain't locking Magic down in the NBA finals.Reggie would've gotten cooked against elite competition.Scottie was the best wing defender ever period and averaged multiple 20ppg 6assist and rebounds while locking the primary wing threat on every team.
Hakeem is arguably the best center ever so that's like asking LBJ could win swapping prime DWade for Prime Kobe.
@@Tenz220 facts
yes
MJ could have got another Scottie. MJ is responsible for Scottie being who he was.
Great recognition of Scottie Pippens important role on the great bulls team !
Scottie was important but the notion that he was as important as MJ us just trash.
@@MrOunce3 No Scottie = No chips. MJ the GOAT but Scottie is #2 all time Bulls legend! If you were a Bulls fan you'd understand.
@@MrOunce3 Casual, stop spreading bs on the game and its legends.
I dont gotta explain shit. Yall the ones with the goofy ass story. MJ got all the MVPs. Scottie played 6 more yrs after MJ and didnt do shit. Why couldnt he save anybody else like he saved MJ?? STFU! Yall need to finish school. You dont have enough common sense to talk basketball with me.
He was a role player.
Scottie Pippen was the only reason i watched NBA i was only 6-10 y/o at the time. hes soo underrated =( i even cheer for the Blazers till this day because he went to them after the bulls
Me too homie
Honestly Jordans retirement was the best thing for them to run away with another 3peat. The second 3 peat was nice because Scottie had the experience now also of being the leader. Scottie was an excellent defender and covered space, provided great help and transition steals and also man to man. Jordan was no sloutch in this department either.
one of the smoothest transitions into an ad I've ever seen. good stuff.
6:03 helping your opponent off the floor. Hell yeah!
We just have to remember that if it wasn't for Phil Jackson's change of strategy in having the team play as a whole and developing other players game to a better level, and I'm speaking of Scottie's game as the most crucial for this matter, they wouldn't be the two times three-peat team we all know and love.
Don't know why people don't talk about Longley. He was very important for this team.
Absolutely true
Why? Who's that?
Minister C. Politics Luc Langley the 7’2 centre for the Bulls. His ability to pass within the triangle offence made him very valuable in my opinion.
A solid Aussie b baller.
@@lyalminchinton8825 hmm aight
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As a die hard Bulls Jordan Pippen fan, I didnt see it that the Last Dance portrayed Scottie that bad, remember this documentary was supposed to impose to us the reality of the hardships and negativities to be where they are now, AL TIME GREATEST!
The lack of spacing is hurting my eyes!
Well, the courts back then were in 4:3 not 16:9...
The lack of defense today hurts my eyes
@@CovfefeDotard teams play defense in the playoffs
The 90s are full of back to the basket players and brute Centers & PFs. Plays are mostly 70% coming from the low post, 20% on pick n roll/ pick n pop and 10% are set plays for mid range, easy layups % 3pt shots. So yeah that is the lack of spacing because not much shooters and a lot of low post plays and its reason why it was more physical then.
Exactly imagine having to score in the paint with 6 men in there smh
he had to be the most wanted partner that every stars want to play with
Actually Pip would fit in with any superstars and offensive system. Not to mention he scores inside the system and he hardly ever holds the ball more then couple sec, so he never takes away from the flow. Alot of superstars cant get another superstar to do what scottie did and had the ability to do. Scottie was so rare, you could net positive 100%, while most other stuperstar duo would never be able to get that from each other and also force offensive stagnation.
Coach, as someone who has played basketball professionally overseas and also college ball in the US, I had my fair share of coaches. Most of them know one or two sets and understand a few concepts. Your understanding of the game and sheer curiosity about the players and their roles in their respective teams is impressive. I rarely miss your videos. Can’t say enough positives about it.
If I can't be like Mike, at least I have Scottie to look up to... hardworking at both ends of the court and being a great teammate.
awesome... I love hearing ppl dissect Pippen’s game properly
I’ve been saying this since the Last Dance. When Mike is telling you how Scottie played an EXISTENTIAL role in his success, LISTEN TO HIM! For without Scottie, there would be NO 6 rings. To prove how successful Mike was not without Scottie, just look at 3 key periods of MJs career: 1. Before Scottie, when Scottie was a Bull but was not playing due to injury/contractual disputes, and after separating from Scottie. You will see 1 common theme: Mike either wasn’t making the playoffs, getting bounced early from the playoffs, NEVER won a conference final and NEVER won a ring. This may explain why a prime Jordan never signed with ANYONE else but with Scottie even though he signed a bunch of 1 year contracts. And no wonder, MJ couldn’t go deep without Scottie. So really, Scottie is EQUALLY as important. Checks this: Scottie, without MJ, was able to take the Bulls just as far in the post season as MJ without Scottie. Said another way, MJ, without Scottie, was UNABLE to take the Bulls any farther than Scottie was able to take them without MJ. This has to be considered when speaking about the GOAT. Should the GOAT be one who was successful only under a very limited set of circumstances while proving not to be as successful while not playing under those circumstances and REFUSED to even challenge himself to win a ring outside of those circumstances.? Wouldn’t a better candidate be a player who isn’t similarly depended on any one player to win a ring and who is willing to take the risk to prove it is more about HIM than them? Wouldn’t that player edge Jordan? So ask yourself who is the only other player in the GOAT discussion that fits that description? It’s the guy that left a champion team to play for the 2nd worse team in the NBA (who had never won a ring) and beats the NBA’s winningest (and arguably the greatest) team of all time though being down 3/? Long live the King!!!
LMAO Jordan only played two seasons as Bull without Pippen, Pippen was riding the bench when he joined the Bulls, wasn't a top 5 player on the team.
The Bulls had the best record in the East when Pippen was injured in 97-98. The Wizard were a 19 win team & were on a 50 win pace until Jordan tore his meniscus.
LeBron left the aging Wade & Bosh to join young fresh stars in Kyrie & Love, that's not a challenge, that's an upgrade.
I thought Pippen was treated fairly in TLD. I mean, there was a whole episode devoted to him. They emphasized how underpaid he was, and one of the interviews called him a top 10 player in the league at the time.
Thank You!!!
I agree. But the thing is, it felt to me, as how I have watched it, that he was portrayed as a selfish guy. Don't get me wrong but yeah they appreciated his game as he was one of the main reason for the Bulls' success. But at some parts, specially that '98 season he was portrayed as if he only thinks about himself, as if he doesn't wanna play with the team anymore. But it was just him protesting that he was underpayed by the management. And also that migraine game. Why would they even put that game? As if he was superman that can play through that. So, yeah I get where he's coming from.
@@Jan-lk3yw he refused to go into a damn playoff game because a play wasn't drawn up for him...it doesn't get more selfish than that
Coach Nick needs to appease the LeBron guzzlers, because that’s what makes up the majority of his audience. Nothing will help him get more views than slyly tilting the needle against Jordan ever so slightly.
Jan Errole Lol he was selfish in that 98 season... I 100% agree with Scotty but he chose to have his surgery later that season after winning the 97 championship. He did that cause he was underpaid you tell me if it’s selfish or not... mind you I would’ve done the same thing..
Without Scottie, Mike may have filled up a stat sheet but he wasn't going to win a ring. No matter how good you are, you are not handling a constant double or triple team in a 7 game series.
I agree with that no Scottie no rings
Hall of fame Advert transition. I’ve never seen such a smooth ad transition.
Thanks! And I guess u haven’t seen many of my other ones? 😇🏀
Not denying Scottie's incredible talent, but he had his chance when Jordan retired, but both times he has performed below average in the playoffs. Phil Jackson doesn't even trust him to take the last shot, that tells you what Phil thinks of him performing under pressure and spotlight. In a twisted way, Scottie is able to be Scottie because Jordan takes all the spotlights and pressure, allowing Scottie to be Scottie.
Scottie made it farther than jordan ever did when they didnt have eachother
@@rosselliswilkinson Portland was in the Western Conference the year before Scottie Pippen came. That wasn't Pippen's doing. Nice try though.
@@trevonwindley5664 Pippen without Jordan had a 3peat team with 6 new players, Hakeem & Barkley & a team that made the conference finals the year before without Pippen.
Jordan without Pippen joined the 2nd worst team in the NBA in a stacked conf. In his 2nd season he lost his 3 best player from the yr before, making that team worse than the team he joined.
@@actionjacksonfive8775 Thank you. I'm tired of these bullshit narratives that take facts way out of context for the sake of, well, pushing a bullshit narrative. MJ took the Bulls to the Eastern Conference Finals and took two games against an all time great Pistons team (they literally didn't lose any games in the entire playoffs outside of the two to the Bulls) with his second best player being a 2nd year Pippen averaging 14 points a game in the regular season and like 10 points a game in that series. What MJ did that season is more impressive than what Pippen did in '94.
This song gives me chills!
The smooth transition to the ad gave me chills!
Does someone know the name of the song? Shazam can't find it. 😱
As a Blazer fan watching him play in Portland, you could see that he was special, even past his prime.
As strong as Michael was, he is a paranoic who lived just to get imaginary revenges on his mind, often against people who really didn't do nothing against him. And during all his career and later on, as paranoic as he was and is, he needed to tell his own story about himself, and his professional career; he never, never stand the possibility of someone criticize him. And in large part, he was so good in telling his own story, that even today everyone believe him. He was maybe the best player ever lived, but he convinced everybody that he had never lost; he convinced everybody that, he won the first 3 titles by himself; he convinced everybody that he never missed a clutch. In all his imagination and in the recent videos, all the people who can contradict those stories were his worst enemies: Isiah is clearly number one, being the one who bullied Michael for so many years, and refusing Michael being over him, when in the end, Isiah lost to him. Even Pip became an attempt to his stories... because very few champions had a second guy strong as Pip was, at least from the 80es moving forward.
He never convinced anyone that he won alone.
He did...look at all the detractors! On this video alone. Most cats seem to think that he arrived in 90/91! Phil,Tex,and Pip are barely mentioned. I just read that the other players were journeymen and castoffs. Not rebounding champions,3pt champions,or all stars from other teams...IJS.
Great video. I grew up a Bulls fan and I tried to pattern my game after Scottie. To me he’s the ultimate do everything player. But, the Last dance documentary didn’t portray him wrong. That’s just who Pippen was for better or worse. Even as a fan I understood who he was. Look at his Houston Rocket year. It ended terrible because of how Scottie mishandled himself in the media. Scottie is he who is, we can’t cover up for him
transition to Ridge was so smooth that I wouldn’t even dare to skip it. You have to reward the creative effort.
Every winning team has a second best guy on the team, then the third and so on. Each of those guys sometimes until the 7th guy play vital roles in championship runs.
Sometimes even other guys step up, like when Scottie had migraines or back issues.
Even guys like Fisher for the lakers, vital to them winning, not just Shaw Kobe. Bird man that one year, vital to that ring!!
Pippen was the best teammate on that team and probably in the whole NBA, possibly ever
6:03 that was a nice gesture of getting pip up as well.
Thank you for putting Scottie as a top perimeter defensive player of all time. I remember that there were games where I watched Bulls games almost exclusively concentrating on what Scottie does in defense. It was incredible.
Pippen was never considered the second best in the League
Pippen was NOT displayed in a bad way in the last dance. This is just Grant's sensibilities and media bs.
You don't have to portray people as perfect in order to respect them. Pippen was not perfect, and we as fans absolutely love that.
People make mistakes we don't blame him for those mistakes.
Nicely done!
Scottie wasn’t robin he was tony stark/iron man. flawed but learned from his mistakes and brought the avengers together and was willing to take sacrifices for the better of the team. Iron man wasn’t the strongest, the fastest, or even the most popular but when all is said and done he was what made the avengers possible
Scottie was Everything to the Bulls Success. I Seant it Myself.
@Aaron9 OH yeah I did and I heard what Mike said in this video. WTF are you talking about? Nothing... I know!
I seen it myself that MJ won the chip when Pip wasnt even an all-star in 1991 and in game 6 of 98' finals Pippen did nothing and MJ won. Plus prime Grant Hill was better than Scottie. You think swap Hill for Scottie doesn't make Bulls even better?
@@meg-k-waldren You didn't see Scottie shutdown Magic in the 91 finals? Pippen was an all around player that consistently did anything the team needed. Grant Hill may have been a better scorer? Scottie Pippen 6 Grant Hill 0.
@@waynemazique6556 you didn’t see 91 finals, because after game 5 ends, Pippen is interviewed in locker room, saying that is why Phil decided to stick with Michael defending Magic. You dudes over hype 3 quarters of defense in 1 game, & turned it into 5 games. Smh. 31 years later, & you guys are still being disingenuous, exaggerating, & revising history.
@@waynemazique6556 who was Grant a #2 option too on the level of Jordan? No one. So why even say 6-0, when Pippen has 0 finals MVPs? Smh. Grant Hill was a franchise player since a rookie, Pippen in year 7, got 1st chance to lead a team, j he quit semi finals, game 2, with 1.9 seconds remaining. By 2nd year he’s begging for a trade, & wearing Jordan’s pointing at the cameras saying comeback.
Scottie literally has 6 rings if u didn't know that he was just important as Mike then u don't know basketball
Yep. And he wasn't Robin. He was Batman. Like with the belt, he has alot he can do
I also feel like Horace Grant and Toni Kukoc are underrated. I can understand that The Last Dance did not focus on Grant, who left after the first threepeat. But they seriously neglected Kukoc, who was a huge part of the second threepeat, and a huge part of that final championship, arguably more important than Dennis Rodman.
People seem to not understand. Points doesnt make you a better teamate, its those robins who accept their role in the team and have their egos aside. If scottie was arrogant he would have left the bulls cause he was underpaid. Dont underrate but for sure dont overrate him too much
Jordan also had to set his ego aside to play in the triangle. It's not a coincidence Jordan stopped averaging 35+ppg when he played in the triangle. Jordan was also underpaid until the last 2 years and he didn't leave either. Pippen is a top 50 all-time great and one of the best robins in the history of the game, that's not underrating him.
I like how the music starts off sad but gradually intensifies as he talks about how awesome Scottie really was.
Anyone who says Scottie was overrated either has no knowledge of basketball, or doesn't appreciate the game. Other than LeBron or Larry, he's the small forward you'd pick for any all -time team.
Mj even acknowledged that pippen deserved consideration for finals mvp in i believe 97.
Coach is undefeated with the ads
I think you made great points as always. Although what does hurt Pippen's legacy is that after 1993, he wasn't the best playoff performer. He did have an MVP caliber 1993-94 season, but he did fall flat on his face during the playoffs against the Knicks, particularly in games 5-7 although I'll at least give him a good games 1, 3 and 4 and it was thanks to Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong that the Bulls even took the Knicks to 7 games that year. During the second 3-peat, MJ did have to do more because Pippen wasn't as great he was during the first 3-peat. He also wasn't all that great in 95 against the Magic, but I'll blame that series more on the Bulls' lack of interior defense since MJ was averaging 31 ppg that series.
Yeah his offensive game took a hit in the playoffs after the first three peat, although he did have a great '97 finals. I think injuries played a big role, as he had serious injuries in '98 and he injured himself sometime in '96 and didn't shoot the same after that.
Your videos are so amazing.
Your one of the best at this.
GREAT JOB, BEAUTIFUL VID.
Keep it up coach, you got the touch!
Well it was a Jordan documentary with a side of Bulls, not a Bulls documentary with a side of Jordan. Pippen and his team can make his own documentary if he’s really that worried about it
Simple math : MJ - Pippen = No Contender.
Lemme just say this. Michael Jordan would never be Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen. Idc what people say but he is the greatest perimeter defender you'll ever see.
MJ won MVP, Scoring title (35ppg), Steals title (3.2stl), Slam Dunk Champion, and DPOY(3.2stl/1.6blk) in the same season Pippen was a rookie bench warmer. Jordan was individually the best player in the league while Pippen was a bench warmer, pretty sure he was doing fine w/o Scottie.
How many did he win w/o Pip tho? Or Tex and Phil? He was there before all of them.
He slid that promo in there so slick! lmao
Scottie glides around the court with proficiency like no other. He would WIN multiple Championships if he was paired up with any other one of the top ten players in the NBA from any era.
Mr. Smooth Operator!
He was captain on offense and defense. He always new what was happening out there. His Awareness was off the charts.
Do a video about Pippen's lone season with the Bulls where he ran the Triangle to perfection!
It’s on the list!!!
Pip dunks were savage
His biggest value to the team was as the glue guy, the do everything guy who was secure enough to let Jordan be himself without jostling him for the spotlight. He was a lesser version of LeBron James in that he was a Swiss army knife who could guard everyone from John Stockton to Clyde Drexler to Magic Johnson to Allen Iverson to Charles Barkley. Contrary to popular legend, he also showed up huge in a lot of the big games. Both the 1993 and 1997 Finals ended on great Pippen defensive plays. He was a legend in his own right.
Scotty Pippen was very important to the bulls and Dennis but obviously someone has to get the most shine.
The fact that so many people act as if Jordan, LeBron, etc. did/do it by themselves is ridiculous. GOAT or not, you can't do it alone
MJ had double the win shares for both regular season and even more in the playoffs than Pippen. He also led in defensive win shares every year in the playoffs. They weren't equals on any level.
Pippen was an amazing player and one of my favorites ever. If I had to pick a team of 5 to play a game for my life I'm picking MJ and Pippen at shooting guard and small forward. The two of them together were just unstoppable.
A fantasic video coach, love seeing people/players getting credit for the little things or the effort that are not in Highlight vids. Well done
Thx so much!! 🏀🙏
He deserves more respect, Jordan wouldn't be the GOAT who went 6-0 in the finals without him, he is probably the second/ third best all around player behind Lebron and Magic. Jordan wouldn't be the GOAT without Scottie or all the other people who helped him from Jordan's Teammates, coach, mother, trainer and many more, all of them should be more well respected. I hope that thanks to the Last Dance maybe people will start to give Scottie and all the people who help Jordan the respect that they deserve. Scottie knew what he was doing, he knew he wasn't the star of the team and he knew his role, he was ok not being the star and played the role of the second option without complaining, he did a bit of everything and is the kind of player everyone needs, he played the role as the second option as if he was born to be Jordan's Robin. We might never see someone as good as Scottie who will play the role as Robin ever again.
How is Bron better than Pippen ? In what category ? They preety similar in gameplay , both great with out question , but i am wondering how you put Bron first...
@@stekons you're comparing lebron to pippen? really dude?
@@JL-wh5xu i am not , Pippen is better for me with closed eyes . But it is stupid to compare in general . So i would say that i like more Pippen than James.
@@stekons so you like pippen more but lebron is better? Lebron is a better finisher, better 3 point shooter, better post game, post passing, overall speed, transition game, rebounding, passing, do i need to go on?
@@stekons basically pippen is better at defense and the midrange and less strong but obviously still hell of a player, probably like 85% lebron
The Bulls were an absolute machine.
Pippen May have been the “number 2” offensively but was the “number 1” on defense.
MJ and Pippen were 1a and 1b defensively, don't get it twisted
Thank you for giving Pippin his due props. lol wish I could of played with that team.
It's often the young jordan fans that dismiss pippen. Pip had such a great all around game, definitely a huge reason the Bulls propelled into the dynasty they became
Skip would disagree
@@antuanleach6762 Skip is Jordan worshiping fan boy
Any documentary or special or bio can mention negativity about any athlete or celebrity or an event even. The majority of the time whenever a doc or bio or special is presented it’s existence is based on the positive impact he or she or it had on us. I’m 39 and I absolutely still love sports and music just like I did when I was a kid. Scottie Pippin was, is and always will be M.P.G. “My Personal Goat”.
I don’t need a documentary or special or biography to inform me about anything positive or negative for that matter about Scottie. I love Mike just like anyone else but Scottie did everything and anything that you can do as a basketball player. When Mike was putting up points, Scottie was putting up numbers in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. This was something I noticed as a young kid and now I realize just how special he was and basketball fans today need to know what kind of player Pippen was and how the right needs the left, MIKE NEEDED SCOTTIE!!!!!
Mike didn't "need" Scottie
Hey Coach Nick can you do a video of the greatness of Moses Malone or Wes Unseld. I believe these 2 to be the most underrated MVPs of all time. Especially Moses cause he won the MVP twice and led a below .500 80-81 rockets to the NBA finals, beating Magic and Kareem on the way to the finals. Eventually losing to Bird.
Lakers had Kareem and Magic, won 3 titles, Bird and Mchale, won 3 titles, Jordan and Pippen won 6 titles, Kobe and Shaq 3 titles, Lebron with Bosh and Wade (in their prime) won 2 titles against young pup OKC and aging Spurs. Got trashed by Dallas and Spurs (duncan was 37, ginobili 36). LOL
the dallas team swept kobe's back to back championship lakers lol. spurs were #1 that season if I'm not wrong. wade wasn't healthy especially their second season together. his knees were giving up already.
Makoy Makoy if you look Kobe and shaq finales In their 3peat competition they played were worse than who Lebron and wade played.
@@jasons4045 Yeah from a typical Bron fan. Never ran out of excuses. Pippen returned from injury mid way through the season in 98. Was playing through injury against Jazz in 98. MJ led them to win.
Kobe was swept by Dallas in 2011 that is why Kobe is not the GOAT. Kobe fans are better coz they never make excuses unlike Bron fans who always lower the rim for Bron. LOL.
@@isaiahprice36 Again excuses. LOL. Duncan and the Spurs were way past their primes in 2014. Lebron, the phony GOAT is in his prime. His support cast Wade and Bosh are way younger than Ginobili. Parker is just the same age as wade. Kawhi is just a pup at that time yet prime bron gave him FMVP.
Hey coach! Just seen you’re in 2k! Nice job
I watch these videos for both the bball content and the smooth AF ads
There's no other duos would ever come close to Mike and Scottie. What they accomplished back then was untouchable!
Well played on the Ridge Wallet ad.
Literally the FIRST POINT FORWARD.
He was the perfect player for a contender team, dominant defense, finishing and passing.
He was my favorite player and after Last Dance I kinda love him even more
🤣😂🤣😂 then you support migraine excuses, Future, bad surgery decisions, bad contract decisions, not being an all-star in 1991 while MJ won the chip, doing zero in gm 6 of 98' finals while MJ won the chip, being prejudice against Kukoc over skin color while refusing to enter a pivotal playoff game, missing 2 FTs in gm 3 of the Pacers series which resulted in series going 7, not scoring at all in 4th QTR of gm 6 vs Suns such that the Paxon game winner was the only 4th QTR Bulls basket not scored by MJ, and betraying MJ decades later in order to sell stupid bourbon.
Scottie Files! I want to see a Scottie Pippen 30 for 30!
All i can say is everyone has negative side but it doesn't mean that scottie is bad. This Chicago team is absolutely a great team with Jordan and Pippen.
Most true basketball video ever posted on youtube.
All great player need a backup,
Jordan, pippen
Lebron,Wade, bosh
Too Manny drama...
The Goat MJ.
Too much*
The GOAT LeBron*
Lechoke is a joke
Don’t forget LeBron/kyrie/love