@@MRVJ8 yo soy Hendrix Maloney barbecusa la porta. La biennale and FINALLY the best part is that thing to be friends okay so bring me back in November and then pull it out and it would have been better.
I had a collection of small motors, mostly from fans and compressors. One day I was going through them all to determine which ones worked and which ones didn’t. I made a pigtail adapter and plugged each one into 110. Mostly they worked; some didn’t, but I got to the very last one, plugged it in, and it went full Tasmanian Devil in my hand. Turns out it was 6v automotive
This is the way to fix memory effected, but not burnt out motors. If you don’t have the device, by cleaning the collectors, having some patience, you can still fix it at 220 V, and works like a brand new one.
Place this in transformer oil for extra cooling and see how long it runs. Don't forget to pull a vacuum from the container to totally soak this in oil and remove all air.
It's not overheating that's the problem, is it? It's sparking which is caused by the high voltage, that leads to the fire. Immersion in oil may help reduce the sparking.
It would been really cool to see how such electric motor would run in a sealed container filled with inert gas like Nitrogen or carbon dioxide if that would minimize the arching caused by ionized air around the rotor and brushes. if there would be less arcing and probably burning around this the motor should spin faster if the arc would not short out the rotor and it should also last longer. interesting to see that
The current from microwave would still overheat it... I doubt the sparks played a vital roll in its death... that little motor wasn't meant to see 2000v 30amp
@@codyramos3200 A fair point but I am pretty sure it would take more abuse if the arcs was not forming so much around the rotor, Ionized air and plasma formed by arcs make a very low resistance connection which in practice shorts out the two poles. Also the high temperature will make the material burn. So a low oxygen gas should really make it hold out longer in the end. I think I could even try this out sometime using the Argon mix from my welder as the other gentleman mentioned in this thread :)
Зачем так над двигателем издеваться? Если через тебя пропустить 220 Вольт , тебе хорошо будет?Лучше бы в дело куда-то такой мотор приспособить, чем так портить. Тем более что моторы сейчас не Я хотел для мини наждака самодельного подобный мотор купить, обожаю подобные моторы коллекторные, так как они более универсальные, легко поддаются реверсированию, регулированию оборотов и мощности, да и по частоте вращения они высокооборотистые. Мне пришлось блендер ручной купить и разобрать, чтобы подобный мотор добыть. Но у моего блендера мотор без статорной обмотки, с постоянными магнитами, то есть при вращении его вала вырабатывает ток как генератор.
Sometimes you just gotta "let the smoke out of it". I used to do this a lot when I was a kid with the HO scale slot car motors. The sound they made was as interesting as the fireworks.
Yes, like my overclocked and overvoltaged Ninebot ES4, the leading shaft just blown in the smoke screen. Even ScooterHacking app shown me E18 (Engine fail) and then E32 (Leading Current blown).
Looks like the brushes were getting disintegrated by the commutator and it was performing worse and worse so the power had to be upped to compensate but without the brushes being in tip-top shape it was very easy to overheat it because it wasn't spinning as fast. I'd like to juice a motor just until the sparks are flying around the commutator like that and inspect the brushes, before the coils burn up, to see if a better brush situation would've helped it to survive longer. It really seems like the brushes breaking down is ultimately what did the motor in.
@@14types В описании написано, что двигатель подключен к трансформатору от микроволновки. Трансформатор от микроволновки даёт до 4 кВ, немного оговорился. А ранее сказанное напряжение можно судить по плазме на коллекторе (хоть и не объективно).
@@raspian1019 hmm, that's interesting, so in other words it just prolongs the inevitable lol. Any idea what kind of RPM increase it would provide? I imagine that no matter what you do you'll end up cooking the windings whether the brushes are arcing or not...
@@TheExplosiveGuy Arcing will happen as long as there's enough voltage drop to overcome the work function of electrons in copper (only 4.7V). The only way to prevent it is to go brushless.
I think it's Soviet motor, very stable, strong and good quality! Maybe not Soviet, because in Soviet Union, plastic was not often used in motors, mainly aluminum and fiberglass/textolite.
The coils burn out at about 150 °C (~300 °F). My vacuum cleaner (cheap shop vac) did the same. It ran fine, then a sudden huge speed drop happened, causing it to enter the last stage; burning coils. I did an autopsy on the motor, and mine didn't fail from overvoltage, but from a crappy soldering job that couldn't withstand 30,000 RPM. The rotor coils started shorting out, causing a drop in speed, that caused severe overheating. All the magic black smoke was released indoors. Damn.
That's how my Ninebot ES4 electric scooter blows while their motors overclocked and overvoltaged - the leading shaft breaks free and the motor current smokes and then dies. Like this motor.
It reminded me of when I plugged in a motor with a piece that made it vibrator and connected it to a bike battery, it jumped, but fortunately Jane turned it around and pulled the wires.
Con lo que me cuesta bobinarlo 🤦♂️ yo siempre cuando los pruebo en vacío sin turbina nunca le doy tanta tensión ya que andan a muchas más RPM, para poder probarlo uso una serie hecha con resistencias de la estufa de esa forma lo alimento con menos tensión
@@Sdrdrax-p try to run it really low for a few seconds and then spike it up,otherwise the motor will just blow from over voltage Also be freaking careful gosh darn it
Actually it's a continuous arc between carbon brush and commutator. If you stop running motor and clean the arc carbon in time, it can restore to good condition. It's not overvoltage problem
Why do these engines break down quickly? The problem is that they heat up quickly, but I don't know why after that the spark starts to come out from the edges of the lead material and it reconciles and burns
They breakdown quickly because you're exceeding the operating requirements. Everything breaks down if you use it in a way which it is not designed for.
No. The light is caused by the excitation of the air molecules. High voltages are involved which is causing an avalanche breakdown of the air, and light is emitted as the electrons smash into the atoms in the air. So the colour you are seeing is caused by particular elements in air. Oxygen molecules create green light.
@@cranfillnathan7411 if you increase the voltage to a motor you will increase the current too, and it's the current that creates a magnetic field in the coil inside the motor, causing it to rotate more quickly. But the green sparking is caused by what is probably the contacts on a split ring commutator. The sparking is an arc, a corona discharge caused by an avalanche breakdown of the air when the contacts touch and break. There will be two causes of this. Firstly the applied voltage, but also the back EMF which is produced by the changing magnetic field which is cutting across the coil windings, and the magnitude of that back EMF will depend on a number of things including the rotational speed of the motor. The atoms in the air are being excited, electrons being stripped away by the high voltage, those electrons slam into other atoms, causing more electrons to be excited, and light is emitted when those electrons fall back down to a lower energy level. That coloured light is coming from an excited gas, a plasma, and is at a very high voltage, and a very high temperature. It's this which caused the motor to catch fire, rather than than the coil overheating.
Did you just raised the voltage and left it all time on maximum to the end of video or you raised and lowered it over time? scientific question to understand motor reaction completely. thanks for answering o7
This is What my brain's been feeling like lately. Overclocked to the the point of my neurons inducing hot plasma For context, high school graduation is in March
Yo the plasma at the contacts look like a fancy sci-fi fusion reactor!
U can actually generate electricity from that spark due to the spinning of electromagnetic fields .
Guy
Yeah bro and that became green in colour also
@@MRVJ8 yo soy Hendrix Maloney barbecusa la porta. La biennale and FINALLY the best part is that thing to be friends okay so bring me back in November and then pull it out and it would have been better.
Yeah, bro.
I had a collection of small motors, mostly from fans and compressors. One day I was going through them all to determine which ones worked and which ones didn’t. I made a pigtail adapter and plugged each one into 110. Mostly they worked; some didn’t, but I got to the very last one, plugged it in, and it went full Tasmanian Devil in my hand. Turns out it was 6v automotive
Care to explain bro?
I accidentally applied 110 volts to a vintage 6 volt motor. It became a tornado in my hand 😂
@@caryd67 🤣🤣
damn u were lucky it didnt heat up in ur hands
@@CheekiScrubb or a blast
That is a very durable motor. if it was some other, it would've taken it 20 seconds to de-solder coils from contacts.
Na the microwave transformer can only deliver between 2-3 Amps.
@@Flofy387 the heat from the arcs due to high voltage is what's causing the heat.
Contacts are never soldered they are crimped onto the commutator
@@Tiyagi99 you overestimate chinese manufacturing
I once put 24v through a 5v motor and it took it great
A very well made device. Took a lot of abuse before it gave.
Wow,how accurate and precisely balanced armature of this universal motor ! ! !almost 0% vibration.
I think the motor is glued to the table
@@merdanchee yeah
Rotors in motors have center of mass in the center of the shaft so there shouldn't be any vibration
@@Jeremy_Moro in theory lol. There's tolerances for everything
@@merdanchee Yes the motor was glued to the table
Photonicinduction Vibes, YEAH! Lots of AMPS!!!!!
And wow, this little motor was _REALLY_ strong!
You want also show voltage and ampere reading on screen 👍
This is the way to fix memory effected, but not burnt out motors. If you don’t have the device, by cleaning the collectors, having some patience, you can still fix it at 220 V, and works like a brand new one.
Place this in transformer oil for extra cooling and see how long it runs. Don't forget to pull a vacuum from the container to totally soak this in oil and remove all air.
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
Isn't it mineral oil?
Doesn’t matter really
@@Jeremy_Moro Yeah Parrafin oil to be precise.
It's not overheating that's the problem, is it?
It's sparking which is caused by the high voltage, that leads to the fire.
Immersion in oil may help reduce the sparking.
Хорошо было бы показать диаграмму скорости вращения ротора двигателя.
POV : My computer trying to run Microsoft Flight Simulator.
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Overclocked videocard GT 540M to power RTX 3090ti
@@BatonGameGD and then it become a microwave
It would been really cool to see how such electric motor would run in a sealed container filled with inert gas like Nitrogen or carbon dioxide if that would minimize the arching caused by ionized air around the rotor and brushes. if there would be less arcing and probably burning around this the motor should spin faster if the arc would not short out the rotor and it should also last longer. interesting to see that
Excellent idea I would like to try this
@@ShroomJGV let me know if you try it!
Argon.
The current from microwave would still overheat it... I doubt the sparks played a vital roll in its death... that little motor wasn't meant to see 2000v 30amp
@@codyramos3200 A fair point but I am pretty sure it would take more abuse if the arcs was not forming so much around the rotor, Ionized air and plasma formed by arcs make a very low resistance connection which in practice shorts out the two poles. Also the high temperature will make the material burn. So a low oxygen gas should really make it hold out longer in the end. I think I could even try this out sometime using the Argon mix from my welder as the other gentleman mentioned in this thread :)
The plasma at the contact is just so cooooool
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
Its like from a movie ngl
@@ЛеонідБородай-ж6х Yes but *1000000 faster 😂😂
Я такие эксперименты до 10 лет проводил! Спасибо, детство вспомнил 🤣👍!
Я тоже. Только с низковольтными моторами постоянного тока. И не только с движками.
Зачем так над двигателем издеваться? Если через тебя пропустить 220 Вольт , тебе хорошо будет?Лучше бы в дело куда-то такой мотор приспособить, чем так портить. Тем более что моторы сейчас не Я хотел для мини наждака самодельного подобный мотор купить, обожаю подобные моторы коллекторные, так как они более универсальные, легко поддаются реверсированию, регулированию оборотов и мощности, да и по частоте вращения они высокооборотистые. Мне пришлось блендер ручной купить и разобрать, чтобы подобный мотор добыть. Но у моего блендера мотор без статорной обмотки, с постоянными магнитами, то есть при вращении его вала вырабатывает ток как генератор.
Изверг. В моем детстве, в середине 80 х годов моторчики были дефицитом.
@@ЭдуардСамойлов-б9т странные у вас фантазии, через ребëнка 220 вольт пропускать! Из вас садист вырос! 🤬
@@ЭдуардСамойлов-б9т капец, он через десятилетнего ребëнка хочет 220 В пропустить, а я изверг! 🤣🤣🤣
That little motor held together well!
Sometimes you just gotta "let the smoke out of it". I used to do this a lot when I was a kid with the HO scale slot car motors. The sound they made was as interesting as the fireworks.
Hah! I do trains too! Not in that way though..😅
0:14
That overloaded motor sounded like an air-raid siren.
Old air raid sirens make sound by spinning fast. The motor does a similar thing
F1 engine
V10, or V12 engine right there.
Lol
the 50hz humming makes it so good
Хороший моторчик, долго не сдавался)
Si
Работа без нагрузки 🥱
😅😅😅😅пивет.да
Yes, like my overclocked and overvoltaged Ninebot ES4, the leading shaft just blown in the smoke screen. Even ScooterHacking app shown me E18 (Engine fail) and then E32 (Leading Current blown).
Looks like the brushes were getting disintegrated by the commutator and it was performing worse and worse so the power had to be upped to compensate but without the brushes being in tip-top shape it was very easy to overheat it because it wasn't spinning as fast. I'd like to juice a motor just until the sparks are flying around the commutator like that and inspect the brushes, before the coils burn up, to see if a better brush situation would've helped it to survive longer. It really seems like the brushes breaking down is ultimately what did the motor in.
Why not try with brushless motor then?
That would be so cool to show in super slow motion. Se how the spark kind of short out the communator on the rotor.
i agree
2:35
Most Dramatic End Ever!
Надёжный моторчик! Долго держал 2 кВ.
откуда 2кв взял инфу?
@@14types В описании написано, что двигатель подключен к трансформатору от микроволновки. Трансформатор от микроволновки даёт до 4 кВ, немного оговорился. А ранее сказанное напряжение можно судить по плазме на коллекторе (хоть и не объективно).
Там и 1000 Вольт небыло.
@@DeNzIlDDA Скорее всего, может трансформатор через ЛАТР подключали.
Я заметил что что при повышении напряжения, несколько раз щётки меньше искрили. Обороты двигателя как бы входили в резонанс с подаваемым напряжением.
Those lighting effects coming from the motor is awesome 🔥
Yoo 😍❤️
Lol
Would running a brushed motor in compressed sulfur hexaflouride stop the arcing issues that normally limits the speed?
Yes it will. But arcing will be seen if voltage is turned too high
@@raspian1019 hmm, that's interesting, so in other words it just prolongs the inevitable lol. Any idea what kind of RPM increase it would provide? I imagine that no matter what you do you'll end up cooking the windings whether the brushes are arcing or not...
put it in a vacuum
@@theplayer12312 SF6 is better than vacuum.
@@TheExplosiveGuy Arcing will happen as long as there's enough voltage drop to overcome the work function of electrons in copper (only 4.7V). The only way to prevent it is to go brushless.
I think it's Soviet motor, very stable, strong and good quality!
Maybe not Soviet, because in Soviet Union, plastic was not often used in motors, mainly aluminum and fiberglass/textolite.
Made in Italy :)
@@neolbuc*Italian* motor.
The coils burn out at about 150 °C (~300 °F).
My vacuum cleaner (cheap shop vac) did the same. It ran fine, then a sudden huge speed drop happened, causing it to enter the last stage; burning coils. I did an autopsy on the motor, and mine didn't fail from overvoltage, but from a crappy soldering job that couldn't withstand 30,000 RPM. The rotor coils started shorting out, causing a drop in speed, that caused severe overheating. All the magic black smoke was released indoors. Damn.
Rip
Bro You Told All Of ur story
The wire arcing in that curved way to the magnet looks so cool 👀
The toasting part was awesome. Its look likr from a sci-fi movie where a crashinh engine.
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
Trágico fim para o valente motor elétrico... RIP
sim mano, que motor é esse?
F
Rip for the brave motor he fights to the end😞
Aquentou até o fim depois pediu arrego
I love how the motor glowed a ring color mix between cyan and green on the inside.
Burning copper color.
this motor was made by the good guys, not sure how many people will get this but i hope its a lot
That's how my Ninebot ES4 electric scooter blows while their motors overclocked and overvoltaged - the leading shaft breaks free and the motor current smokes and then dies. Like this motor.
No caso, a bobina na sob-tensãoa criou uma resistência que se dissipou em calor que esquentou
A ponto de derrete o verniz da mesma !
sim, e ela aguentou bastante pela indução do rotor
Energia rodando junto com o motor qie incrível
@@saasmuitobr1732
Então se coloca o moto no óleo pra resfriar ele aguentaria mais??????
@@3389-ØØ Só se fosse o óleo mineral
Judging by the spark when the motor was slow i think the armature developed a short circuit somewhere in its operating life
Cuanto voltaje se le aplicó al ese motor ?
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
Di più
Примерно 400 вольт , триста выдерживает я лично проверял ))
It reminded me of when I plugged in a motor with a piece that made it vibrator and connected it to a bike battery, it jumped, but fortunately Jane turned it around and pulled the wires.
i liked the part where the sparks were greenish as the copper from the commutator got really hot.
Why do you think the colour of the sparks are caused by the copper?
@@deang5622 because copper burns green.
No motor was harmed in the making of this film.
Extra camera angles would have been greatly appreciated
The first 30 seconds sounded like an aircraft taking off.
It's pulling 1.21 giggawatts!
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
Now send it over to a repair channel!
back to future: The engine
Wow this Engine almost caught fire
Can smell the burning through the screen
You're right.
this person: lets overvolt this motor
me: "Some people just wanna watch things burn"
0:21 pov: you cut a 143 ceramic in 3 minutes
Mesmerizing, looked like It had a Plasma Reactor in it.
1:03 bro has a nuclear fusion reactor
that plasma look's like scene from SCI-FI movies👏🏻
Con lo que me cuesta bobinarlo 🤦♂️ yo siempre cuando los pruebo en vacío sin turbina nunca le doy tanta tensión ya que andan a muchas más RPM, para poder probarlo uso una serie hecha con resistencias de la estufa de esa forma lo alimento con menos tensión
Thanks. I never knew in my life that I needed to see that.
What is the highest voltage?
Any really until they break,tho they are 4 to 5 volt motors so dont too overclock them
@@furry-b5h hmmm...need to test tem at 4kv
@@Sdrdrax-p try to run it really low for a few seconds and then spike it up,otherwise the motor will just blow from over voltage
Also be freaking careful gosh darn it
@@furry-b5h it can't run at 5v dc
2000v from micro oven transformer
Actually it's a continuous arc between carbon brush and commutator. If you stop running motor and clean the arc carbon in time, it can restore to good condition.
It's not overvoltage problem
Why do these engines break down quickly? The problem is that they heat up quickly, but I don't know why after that the spark starts to come out from the edges of the lead material and it reconciles and burns
They breakdown quickly because you're exceeding the operating requirements.
Everything breaks down if you use it in a way which it is not designed for.
Me trying to run minecraft on an overpowered potato
Interesting to see the green light. Must have been the color of copper oxide, since wire is copper.
No.
The light is caused by the excitation of the air molecules. High voltages are involved which is causing an avalanche breakdown of the air, and light is emitted as the electrons smash into the atoms in the air.
So the colour you are seeing is caused by particular elements in air. Oxygen molecules create green light.
Reducing the duty cycle should allow for larger voltages with reduced heat. If the duty cycle is to low, the motor won’t turn over.
Those rotor brushes:
"Please, let me die already." 💀🙏
Okay, the coils over heated, what about not letting that happen while keeping voltage up?
No they didn't. The commutator contacts produced arcing caused by the high voltages at play, the arcing led to the fire.
@@deang5622 Oh.
I was under the impression that the Amperage wasn't altered for the voltage and that caused the damage.
@@cranfillnathan7411 if you increase the voltage to a motor you will increase the current too, and it's the current that creates a magnetic field in the coil inside the motor, causing it to rotate more quickly.
But the green sparking is caused by what is probably the contacts on a split ring commutator. The sparking is an arc, a corona discharge caused by an avalanche breakdown of the air when the contacts touch and break.
There will be two causes of this. Firstly the applied voltage, but also the back EMF which is produced by the changing magnetic field which is cutting across the coil windings, and the magnitude of that back EMF will depend on a number of things including the rotational speed of the motor.
The atoms in the air are being excited, electrons being stripped away by the high voltage, those electrons slam into other atoms, causing more electrons to be excited, and light is emitted when those electrons fall back down to a lower energy level.
That coloured light is coming from an excited gas, a plasma, and is at a very high voltage, and a very high temperature.
It's this which caused the motor to catch fire, rather than than the coil overheating.
Did you just raised the voltage and left it all time on maximum to the end of video or you raised and lowered it over time? scientific question to understand motor reaction completely. thanks for answering o7
1:58 POV: Mi PC con gráfica integrada tratando de correr la 1.18.2
man the blue ring looked so sick
0:44 ARC reactor
Bro almost opened a portal to another dimension 💀
Thx youtube
🤔 It would be interesting to see these footage taken by a thermal camera...
Action starts from 2:17 🔥🔥
The arcing looks like it would send a person someone on the other timeline and won't get back
man turned into turbo🤣
Where's Photoninduction when you need him.
Finally someone made an real arc reactor smaller than tony stark's😅
Very cool to explode electrical stuff actually
Must be a high quality motor
Alternatif title : most top speed rc cars at all time
This is brushed AC/DC Universal Motor! if you wondering what type of Motor is that. Most commonly used in
Mixers/Grinders.
And vacuum cleaners?
@@eswnl1 vacuum cleaners doesn't need high torque motor that's why vacuum cleaners use single phase induction motor.
@@dkboss5668 no, they use brushed motors.
I can feel the vibrations with my phone
ruclips.net/video/8eGehI8ep0s/видео.html
It's a flux capacitor and if it endures another minute, it would just vanish into thin space leaving the 2 wires behind
выглядит ужасно красиво!)
Overvoltage means overcurrent means overpower. This couldn't end different way, but still being entertaining.
2:30 sound Mazda rx7
We need more power, just a little more power!
Captain I don't think it can take it much longer!
2:25 He fucked up
Very nice bro keep it up ❤️👍🙏🙏 friends 🤝
Everybody's fan motors when you play Minecraft but ultra realistic
lo freno la temperatura no el voltaje en si .. derrite el esmaltado no soporta las vueltas y bueno! me encanta ver esto }
The motor was actually burning and its still going😂
I don't know why, but i really liked it
I would be interested how fast the motor has spun @ what value of amps and volts.
That 2 1/2 minutes pretty much illustrates me on some days and the end result.
Oh no, now you'll have to reverse polarity of the current to undo the damage.
This is What my brain's been feeling like lately. Overclocked to the the point of my neurons inducing hot plasma
For context, high school graduation is in March
i'm with you man
It's sooooo satisfying to watch 🤗
That was a super high quality motor 👌
De qualidade e pouco merecida um prêmio....... geralmente eles não duram nem 10 segundos na alta voltagem
Wow cool Please provide back EMF constant , voltage reading and shaft rpm in the side bar !
wow
the comutator contacts survived after a lot of sparking
i have a small hobby of making motors to overvolt i call them "overclockies"
Loved those last few spits of spark
Gordon don't need to hear it, he is highly trained professional
The motor is already working hard. Sincerely for him