Dude you are an audio production life saver! Musician here that has a small at home studio and writes instrumentals. I just binge watched most of your videos and am gonna be applying all of this stuff. Thanks so much.
I'm going to have to watch this one a few times lol still have a LOT to learn. I've always used folders since I first got into mixing and am just now learning about buses and stuff
Bit confused with routing. Do you mute the original Rythm guitars to only hear the submix. Or do you hear all tracks. how do you set your fader levels?
Cool video which helps a lot on how to organize guitar tracks. Personally I proces left and guitar separately because Im using differrent amp sims and cabs to create my own tone combining the sound of the two. Then I send them to guitar rhythm bus just to control loudness and maybe just add some subtle eq which is send to master bus. For leads its usually just one track, nothing fancy. I never thought about stem track, interesting idea!
Cool video! I almost use the same technique as you do. I like to have it clear and simple, so all of my guitars and other instruments go into a group channel (Cubase). For effects I also use the Sends. The only thing I didn't use until now is that stem-cannel-thing, but maybe I should try that because you gain the benefit of using an additional EQ for the whole guitar section at once. I am working on a very complex metal song with a lot of orchestration which you can see on my channel. So, I really have to be careful with all the frequencies. And I think in that case it could be a good approach to find the final mix for the whole song. I will try that!
If quad tracking, I like to send L and R of one sound to a buss and then L and R of the other sound to their own buss and both of those to the rhythm mix. Complex, I know but you will need that control sooner later. Leads of course to their own buss because the fx are almost always different. Probably putting any cleans on their own buss as well and finally all guitar busses off to the main guitar mix. I'm in Reaper so its actually just folders all nice and neat.
5:04 I've never used a send once while making a track. So I don't even know what it does. I've always applied effects directly on tracks. Guess It's time to get educated on that.
One thing I was waiting to hear from this video is if there was any processing on the master guitar bus... you mentioned having your Rhythm guitars on a bus, and then possibly even your lead tracks on a separate bus, and then all of these guitars going into a master guitar bus. If you are to have all of these guitars together on one bus, are you doing any level of processing over all of the guitars? I am still learning mixing so I am curious as to the benefit of combining all the guitars onto one master guitar bus. Thank you.
These are the videos that I love! Diggin into the mix! Did you use Rear Buss compression on this mix? Just curious. And im dying to see a video on how to properly edit!! Keep em coming Bobby!!
Great info, thanks man! As a rough guide in a mix with 2 rhythm guitars, 2 lead guitars, 2 bass (1 distorted, 1 clean), and drums. How should the panning work in a hard rock / metal mix? Example, rhythm guitars 100% left and right, lead guitars 66% left and right, bass 30% left and right with the drums in the centre. Thoughts please?
No panning bass And if you have to do this, beware of the Dorian Gray/Dennis Walters effect as photosynthesis decays the intergity of the sphicters natural duvet, (eg that being the arse cheeks). The intentuon of the cheeks is only championed by the inertia created from the sub frequencies that are NOT met by the rectal phasing of the rooms natural noise rwduction. Try to use Pro Tools remote to control the intensity setting that has your rectum (and yes, unruly processes WILL rectum causing prolapses that will result in system shutdowns as your mix collapses. P.S dont use an SSL comp on the mix buss for glue. Simply apply a generous slather of supa glue directly to the anus ((ANcillary USage)) as the tract will produce total harmonic distortion as well as utter phase cancellation exposing the shaft that and expanding its rate of pulsation ((Check out Gio from Silent Scream Studios who procedures of bask masking are second to none. Try not to eat cabbage or drink cauliflower shakes when making important mix decision as the internal processing can be compromised suddenly exposing the balls in your mix. These settings must be shaved back a tad even before ones mix commences. Squeezed dates ruin mixes and spikes rudely infiltrate the harmony of the rear eye. ((Check out Gios video on this. Despite the graphic nature, Gio leaves no if or butts. This is why he is widely known as Colonel Clink.
I usually setup 2 diff amp sims, 1-Lt, 1Rt. Do you think I’d be better off using 1 amp sim for clarity? Routing them both to an aux track how you did here? I usually try to have slightly different sounds on left than the right, one usually less dirty or more lower mids than the other. But I’m finding some sections don’t mash well than others. Hope this makes sense. One more question: how much compression/release do you recommend on distorted guitars? Seems like a good idea to use multi band compression for palm mutes, I need to look into that, I can’t never get a good chug sound in my mixes.
I only use compression on rhythm guitars to control palm mutes (100-250Hz). Gain reduction only kicks in on the palm muting and only by a few dB. I usually use the same or very similar tones on each side. I find the simpler, the better...no reason to make stuff complicated. That being said, if you like the sound you're achieving..stick with it!
I'm getting more into mixing lately, or attempting anyway. I'm trying to send my Rhythm L & R tracks through a Bus, with my Amp Sim on that bus. Since they are basically the same sound, seems like easier on my PC processing to have one instance instead of 2. As this goes down the board, the numbers increase but using the bus with the amp sim really cuts down on the overall number/processing. Is this correct thinking? Also I'm having hell with that bus track screwing up the pans. I seem to have pans set right in the send, and also on fader....but I'm using Presonus. Any tips on setting up a bus with Amp sim? I'm backtracking your videos and really appreciate your wisdom, thank you!
Loving the videos man. When you record and mix a song do you edit your audio, comp the tracks down and import those into a new project to start mixing? Just curious if you separate the two. Thanks!
After I record drums, I edit them before I start tracking guitars. After drums are edited, I record/edit/comp all other instruments on the fly during the tracking sessions. When the band leaves, the song is ready to be mixed. I do it all within the same Pro Tools session. I just make sure I "save as" at each stage of the production.
@@FrightboxRecording this is interesting. So you have a few different levels of the song saved separately? Like for instance, pre edit, post edit and final version?
I do the submix but not the stem. I got trouble with a project that have 4 guitar rhytm tracks , how to pan it ? or maybe eq ? And also if the music/piece had an orchestra in it , how to manage it all ? I wonder to know Good content anyway sorry if I say something wrong , my english is not too good XOXO
I usually only do 2 rhythm guitars. If I were to do 4 tracks, I'd send them all to a guitar submix. I'd pan the first pair 100% left and right and the second pair around 75% left and right.
I usually have my kick peaking at around -18dB and build my mix around that. With that being said, as long as you're not clipping...it doesn't matter where your levels are.
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I put my Rhythm Guitars in a Submix and Eq and Compress them as one also.
Dude you are an audio production life saver! Musician here that has a small at home studio and writes instrumentals. I just binge watched most of your videos and am gonna be applying all of this stuff. Thanks so much.
My pleasure!
I'm going to have to watch this one a few times lol still have a LOT to learn. I've always used folders since I first got into mixing and am just now learning about buses and stuff
Nice mug ! The song sounds amazing ! Having a guitar submix is really useful for automation !
Bit confused with routing. Do you mute the original Rythm guitars to only hear the submix.
Or do you hear all tracks. how do you set your fader levels?
For real Bobby. You are the best and you taught me more than anybody. Keep making great content.
So happy to hear that, Erick!
@@FrightboxRecording Thank you! My mixes sounded "thin" till i watched you
Cool video which helps a lot on how to organize guitar tracks. Personally I proces left and guitar separately because Im using differrent amp sims and cabs to create my own tone combining the sound of the two. Then I send them to guitar rhythm bus just to control loudness and maybe just add some subtle eq which is send to master bus. For leads its usually just one track, nothing fancy. I never thought about stem track, interesting idea!
Awesome stuff as always bro !
Cool video! I almost use the same technique as you do. I like to have it clear and simple, so all of my guitars and other instruments go into a group channel (Cubase). For effects I also use the Sends. The only thing I didn't use until now is that stem-cannel-thing, but maybe I should try that because you gain the benefit of using an additional EQ for the whole guitar section at once. I am working on a very complex metal song with a lot of orchestration which you can see on my channel. So, I really have to be careful with all the frequencies. And I think in that case it could be a good approach to find the final mix for the whole song. I will try that!
Hey - I just discovered your channel. This is right up my alley. Thanks.
If quad tracking, I like to send L and R of one sound to a buss and then L and R of the other sound to their own buss and both of those to the rhythm mix. Complex, I know but you will need that control sooner later. Leads of course to their own buss because the fx are almost always different. Probably putting any cleans on their own buss as well and finally all guitar busses off to the main guitar mix. I'm in Reaper so its actually just folders all nice and neat.
Awesome tricks and tips Bobby thank you so much :)
Thanks for watching Alexey!
5:04 I've never used a send once while making a track. So I don't even know what it does. I've always applied effects directly on tracks. Guess It's time to get educated on that.
Powerful mixing tip.It's a hierarchy mixing mode.
One thing I was waiting to hear from this video is if there was any processing on the master guitar bus... you mentioned having your Rhythm guitars on a bus, and then possibly even your lead tracks on a separate bus, and then all of these guitars going into a master guitar bus. If you are to have all of these guitars together on one bus, are you doing any level of processing over all of the guitars? I am still learning mixing so I am curious as to the benefit of combining all the guitars onto one master guitar bus. Thank you.
Thank you. Great video.
Great video, I process my lead guitars separately as well. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I actually run my rhythm guitars to a master bus and run em through JST Bus glue. It makes the dookie twinkle
These are the videos that I love! Diggin into the mix! Did you use Rear Buss compression on this mix? Just curious. And im dying to see a video on how to properly edit!! Keep em coming Bobby!!
Great info, thanks man!
As a rough guide in a mix with 2 rhythm guitars, 2 lead guitars, 2 bass (1 distorted, 1 clean), and drums. How should the panning work in a hard rock / metal mix? Example, rhythm guitars 100% left and right, lead guitars 66% left and right, bass 30% left and right with the drums in the centre. Thoughts please?
No panning bass And if you have to do this, beware of the Dorian Gray/Dennis Walters effect as photosynthesis decays the intergity of the sphicters natural duvet, (eg that being the arse cheeks). The intentuon of the cheeks is only championed by the inertia created from the sub frequencies that are NOT met by the rectal phasing of the rooms natural noise rwduction. Try to use Pro Tools remote to control the intensity setting that has your rectum (and yes, unruly processes WILL rectum causing prolapses that will result in system shutdowns as your mix collapses. P.S dont use an SSL comp on the mix buss for glue. Simply apply a generous slather of supa glue directly to the anus ((ANcillary USage)) as the tract will produce total harmonic distortion as well as utter phase cancellation exposing the shaft that and expanding its rate of pulsation ((Check out Gio from Silent Scream Studios who procedures of bask masking are second to none. Try not to eat cabbage or drink cauliflower shakes when making important mix decision as the internal processing can be compromised suddenly exposing the balls in your mix. These settings must be shaved back a tad even before ones mix commences. Squeezed dates ruin mixes and spikes rudely infiltrate the harmony of the rear eye. ((Check out Gios video on this. Despite the graphic nature, Gio leaves no if or butts. This is why he is widely known as Colonel Clink.
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Thank you again!!!
I usually setup 2 diff amp sims, 1-Lt, 1Rt. Do you think I’d be better off using 1 amp sim for clarity? Routing them both to an aux track how you did here? I usually try to have slightly different sounds on left than the right, one usually less dirty or more lower mids than the other. But I’m finding some sections don’t mash well than others. Hope this makes sense.
One more question: how much compression/release do you recommend on distorted guitars? Seems like a good idea to use multi band compression for palm mutes, I need to look into that, I can’t never get a good chug sound in my mixes.
I only use compression on rhythm guitars to control palm mutes (100-250Hz). Gain reduction only kicks in on the palm muting and only by a few dB. I usually use the same or very similar tones on each side. I find the simpler, the better...no reason to make stuff complicated. That being said, if you like the sound you're achieving..stick with it!
Frightbox Recording awesome. Thanks for your help man! Love the channel and respect your teachings.
I'm getting more into mixing lately, or attempting anyway. I'm trying to send my Rhythm L & R tracks through a Bus, with my Amp Sim on that bus. Since they are basically the same sound, seems like easier on my PC processing to have one instance instead of 2. As this goes down the board, the numbers increase but using the bus with the amp sim really cuts down on the overall number/processing. Is this correct thinking? Also I'm having hell with that bus track screwing up the pans. I seem to have pans set right in the send, and also on fader....but I'm using Presonus. Any tips on setting up a bus with Amp sim? I'm backtracking your videos and really appreciate your wisdom, thank you!
Loving the videos man. When you record and mix a song do you edit your audio, comp the tracks down and import those into a new project to start mixing? Just curious if you separate the two. Thanks!
After I record drums, I edit them before I start tracking guitars. After drums are edited, I record/edit/comp all other instruments on the fly during the tracking sessions. When the band leaves, the song is ready to be mixed. I do it all within the same Pro Tools session. I just make sure I "save as" at each stage of the production.
@@FrightboxRecording this is interesting. So you have a few different levels of the song saved separately? Like for instance, pre edit, post edit and final version?
I do the submix but not the stem.
I got trouble with a project that have 4 guitar rhytm tracks , how to pan it ? or maybe eq ?
And also if the music/piece had an orchestra in it , how to manage it all ? I wonder to know
Good content anyway
sorry if I say something wrong , my english is not too good
XOXO
I usually only do 2 rhythm guitars. If I were to do 4 tracks, I'd send them all to a guitar submix. I'd pan the first pair 100% left and right and the second pair around 75% left and right.
Awsome tutorials
Just to clarify, is the guitar submix the same as a guitar bus? I work in logic & I’ll bus my rhythm guitars out
Yes sir, same thing.
couldn't help but see that you work at very low volume levels. Is it due to something specific? I'm just starting to mix
I usually have my kick peaking at around -18dB and build my mix around that. With that being said, as long as you're not clipping...it doesn't matter where your levels are.
@@FrightboxRecording thanks!! let's keep mixing then
How do you keep your levels so low
See man. I want to do this. Im burying my head into routing and get stuck. Im so frustrated man. Why. I just want to make music man
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