@ his damage is fine maybe a slight base increase to his enraged swipes after the dash but he’s a tank buster. His time to kill is almost the same no matter who you’re fighting, he just doesn’t have the hp to survive brawls because he’s pretty big for a dps. Should’ve been a self sustaining tank but that’s my bias bc I play vanguard
Ye the idea of his kit is fantastic, I love it. Seems like a recipe for a really fun character to play. He just doesn’t feel as strong as I feel he should.
@@Dephor0 easily the toughest duellist tho, 300hp (600 with his dmg resistance buff) and can fully restore 300 health on death gives him effectively 900hp in a short burst. also his dmg is heavily percentage based so with full rage and his attack speed buff he shreds tanks like nobody else
As a hulk main I agree. He needs something. Higher dmg, faster movement, and even self healing would make sense. Also his jump should do dmg on impact imo
I think tying hulks super jump to a meter was a mistake. I think he should have just gotten it as an extremely low cooldown ability. That charge meter is holding him back. If thor can have 1 second cooldowna on all his abilities. Hulk can have a 1 second cooldown on his super jump.
@@AkilTheAwesomeagreed. the way his jump works is just so weird and it takes too long it’s just not efficient in a fast paced game trying to jump on someone in the air
Agreed, and also with the jump meter thing mentioned by AkilTheAwsome. I think it'd be nice if he had a dash or something in banner form as well to help get out of sticky situations after just turning back, or maybe a second or two of a smaller shield. And maybe making it so whatever the jump will hit will have some kind of marker on it, like a target.
As a person who has never read or watched anything Marvel, it is SO funny to me when people try to shotcall with the characters 'human names'. Mid fight they start shouting "Eric can die, eric can die!" Bro who tf is Eric and why are we killing him 😅
I hate to agree with where Storm is. She is my main, I love her but she needs some kind of buff. Maybe mov speed in the air, maybe a little extra damage. Just something.
Storm should have different primary and secondary fires depending on which stance she's in. In wind stance her primary should be long horizontal blades of air that deal less damage and have shorter damage drop off, but hit wider areas. Her secondary fire in this stance is a large cone of wind that deals minor damage, but knocks enemies back. In her lightning stance she should have lightning bolts that require better accuracy, but deal considerably more damage with less damage drop off and her secondary fire should be a chain lightning that can bounce between targets.
Imo the biggest problem is her movement. Iron man has a 0 cooldown flight that makes it alot harder to hit his head. If you manage the flight meter well you can always have it up. Storm her movement speed buff isn't good enough unpowered. Even when using cover properly it's way to easy to catch a storm.
@@noverriusI feel like this is a really good idea, but at this point i kinda think they should just lean into her support stuff and make her a full on strategist. Add some kind of healing rain ability. The game needs more strategists anyways, she fits that role in my eyes more
Iron man main, his problem isn’t his damage or his kit, it’s how much he is targeted, when your in the sky, or anywhere, not only do you stick out like a sore thumb, but you also are a very slow flier, meaning you can’t escape.
my brother is adamant that iron man and his infinite flight is broken, refuses to listen to reason but as an iron man main, we're squishy and were out in the open, plus in order to use the beam you gotta be within danger range.
@@Voidmire626 fr, the beam needs longer range, I need to be in a range where I basically die to everyone due to the fact that I can’t move fast enough to dodge while using the beam.
Honestly that's completely fair. As a C&D main I go up against a lot of Iron Man players and at first they were like mosquitoes to me and were really annoying when I didn't know how to deal with them. But I learned I could just wall as cloak and kill with my beam. Even if I didn't hit the wall, I would be able to do enough damage to where they would either just keep shooting till they died or they try to fly away and still die. I think he should just be a bit more faster since his damage and ult are pretty damn good.
Good call on peni, I’ve been “maining” her as much as possible in competitive. She can really anchor choke points extremely hard and can make life absolute hell if her nest is able to stay active. Extremely underrated mobility and only tank with actual cc that doesn’t break instantly *LOOKING AT YOU HULK*
Tried Peni and was surprised how much pressure she exerts. Back line gets hard to flank because of spider mines and she has a lot of mobility because of her web pulling herself along with it and wall running, and her 4 second cooldown stun has so much utility. She also doesn’t need to reload and can even toss her mines pretty far into the middle of enemy groups. People cant peek around corners because can just toss mines to pressure.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Not just her nest, fly into chest beam range, overcharge it, melts tanks so fast and she has no shield or anything to stop you unlike Dr Strange etc. and you can do that from the ground so you have zero risk from hela/hawkeyes. Just push with your tank and that's the true iron man playstyle.
It's insane how many people don't destroy her spider nest. Unfortunately for me I play mostly grounded melee characters, and trying to dive her nest to allow my team to get on the point sees me dying more often than not. The mines do way too much damage in my opinion. Some of them have one shot my Magik
I feel like Wolverine has 1 very easy buff, and that buff will make him from F to ATLEAST B tier. And that buff is, make him a Vanguard. Because a Wolverine with 300HP is a threat yes, but a Wolverine with even just 600 HP could pose a threat for the whole enemy team, lower everyone's health, kill the supports, get assists, he would have it all. Cause for a tank, his mobility would be great. For a Duelist, his mobility sucks. Either give him a 2nd dash, lower his cooldowns, or make him a tank. Those are the best ways to buff him
I agree completely. I also think they could adjust the way his healing works. His current regeneration is weird, maybe they can simplify and just give him flat healing per second to artificially inflate his HP. Maybe 500 HP with 10 health regen/second. Make him someone the enemies have to focus down.
I’d make his undying animal special regen health instead of reducing damage and also give him the ability to scramble up walls like rocket & black panther its so annoying have to use the leap to gain high ground
As a cloak and dagger main, I legit didn’t expect them to be this high! Definitely not as flashy as some of the other supports, but crazy consistent, I’m glad they’re getting respect
Me too! As a C&D main myself, I expected A since Daggers healing isn't as strong as some other supports. It makes sense the more I think about it though. Cloaks utility is CRAZY and being able to deny a Jeff ult with Rmb is WILD!
@@gabrielgoncalves2763I will say that I do wish they had a little more movement speed, even if only dagger got it or something, but that’s neither here nor there. Largely I agree with you for sure!
@@dariuswilliams2879absolutely agree - it feels like they just take such a long time (especially with Dagger out) to either disengage or reset into a fight. They just need a bit of a movement boost to put them in line with some of the other characters
I had to pause the video to comment because you just said something about people learning to destroy equipment in relation to your commentary on Moon Knight. Oh. My. God. It's crazy how in almost every single game I play, I am the only person who goes for gear. The ankhs, Loki's clones/runes, Namor's Monstros, Rocket's ult/revive, like there's so much random shit that just gets left sitting out and then people wonder why they're getting overwhelmed.
i think its really hard to do a tier list of this game cause most of the characters are so deadly in the right hands and they are all crap in someone else's
Yeah, Squirrel Girl’s shots do so much damage that I honestly thought it was a mistake. Once you get used to the arc over long distances, you’re a serious threat.
@@dankerbell you ain't wrong, I'm trash with spider man so I thought he was bad but I've played with some cracked Spidermans, straight carrying the team
EXACTLY. I've seen EVERY character from C Tier down do some serious damage in competitive play. Wolverine is one of the last people I'd want to be caught alone with if im using anyone who ain't a tank or flying. Even Hela lol I'll bail out with the bird and Wolverine will just keep closing in and then slice and dice me😂😂😂 then proceed to do the same to some poor soul I couldn't heal bc I was running from him 😂😂😂😂
I dont think Wolverine has an issue with kit cohesion. Everything flows well together and he feels super fun. His main issue is literally time. His big leap has way too long of a cooldown so you spend half the game waiting for it and his damage resist just doesnt last as long as you want it to. He feels really solid but has too much downtime. Really hope they dont buff him with a damage buff and go for a buff to his cooldowns.
problem is is cooldowns, with his abillities up hes tankier than some vanguards, but then he has to withdraw for way too long before he can fight again
@ And his passive, what lets him stay in the fight just long enough to get the cooldowns again, is 90 SECONDS! So good luck surviving for the next couple fights.
I main Cap and I think a B tier is correct. His main problem is his cooldowns are unnecessarily long. His ult is arguably the strongest in the game but the long charge time limits it.
8:00 iron fist can wall run, range is no issue it’s getting in and out. Utilize his block to absorb damage and charge chi then combo off. He gets 3 jumps which have a VERY short cool down. The cooldown does not start until he touches any surface he can walk on. Juggle your damage with your maneuverability and he’s a really good character just don’t over estimate how “tanky” you can be because he is actually very squishy.
The editing in this alone deserves a sub and like. I barely even play this game enough to have an opinion on the rankings, but the editing looks like it’s literally in-game. Great video
I tried playing Adam and I think the only thing keeping him from being really good is his inability to heal with basic attacks. Those abilities go on cooldown and you definitely need a second strategist with him and it's very hard to get in a quick play
Thats why i love playing off healer ....you play from the back and get protected just like a support , but dish crazy damage like a dps while healing for alot ...not as much as a dedicated main healer but still alot , adam warlock is exactly that ......hes the best off support really ...esp if you land your headshots , a headshot right click headshot combo kills just about any other support and alot of dps heroes , his ult is a massive fuck you to the enemy team , his soul bind needs a teeny tiny cooldown buff... Like a 0.5-1 secs cooldown buff.
I love Magik’s Kit. I started with venom then chose Magik as my DPS and she absolutely shreds bro. I engage supports when they’re alone and the portal minion rips through most tanks if they are near it. Love how I can use her to escape or engage, but she is deff squishy, little room for errors.
@@claritycontrol108the whole point of her character is that you can extend your life by playing aggro and smart. If you aren’t able to survive situations then you either need to play more patient, or hit more abilities to get more shield
Loki may have needed a tiny bit more love. This is just because as a Loki main I think I can say myself, that his clones just extremely boost his healing to his teammates, but besides that, good tier list man. 👍
Have yet to see a tier list that understands Loki lmao. I think a lot of people don’t realize how his clones work: they only shoot when you shoot, where you shoot. I thought they were just ai controlled bots for the longest time but they literally triple your damage/healing. Not even to mention his healing runes which also spawn on his clones and effectively make you and your teammates invincible.
As a Peni Parker main, I think she’s an A tier, I think a lot of players don’t understand how to use her, and right now people don’t know how to get to her, she can seriously lock down an area and keep it that way.
@@Revenant530 A is an overstatement, what happens if they actually knows to destroy your nest? What happens when you're not on control on the point? Penny lack defense to help the team imo. In cases where you need to hold choke Magneto got you covered with way more ability to deny value
I fell like Magic in C is harsh. She is a solid B with WAAAY better duelling potential than any of the other melees (as long as you hit the combos). Thing is, her combos aren’t even particularly hard. They are decided merely by wether you hit dash or not.
Great take on Mantis. She’s an absolute sniper and is so unbelievably fun. Amazing hero with a lot of potential but a lot of need for good aim to work well!
I am Maining Squirrel Girl and im am pretty good, i love her but it is true that the ultimate could do something else, maybe leave enemies trapped or something like that, because otherwise you must use it very well and at an ideal angle or to execute an enemy team with low HP The last thing is what I apply often, also what I do is throw it inside closed places if I notice that the rival team is planning an ambush somewhere of that type, also another way to use it is to give an enter to the tank or the dualite
she's good tho deserves tier a (low a) she can just cc lock you to death and that's pretty strong but yeah her ult could be more useful also she has good survivability
I just got into this game and man your videos are awesome. Straight to the point, no BS, clear concise explanations and examples. Could not ask for a better guide at a better time for someone starting out!
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I couldn't be happier with where you put psylocke. As a die hard burst assassin fan in every game where that term is relevant (Diana in League of Legends, Genji in Overwatch, Valeera in Heroes of the Storm), I can see how Psylocke will end up being a menace with a huge skill ceiling
Can someone here explain to me why thor is high up on this tier list? I love playing him, but to me, while his damage is good on awakening mode, his normal mode is sad. He is slow as heck and people can just walk away if he doesn’t have his charge, All of his abilities go on cooldown if he uses one, which makes throwing the hammer useless, and his ult is just terrible. Sure, he can be bulky but with no retreat he just dies if grouped up, and while awakening is nice, he doesn’t really help his team at all and at best he is a big guy that the team has to jump around, which they can due to his speed. This is not to spread hate but I am just wondering since I have seen people say he is both the best and worst and I am wondering how people are saying he is good.
TBH I think he's just good as an objective holder, because he has a constant "heal". If you just dip in and out of cover and throw his hammer, you essentially get a 100 point heal, over and over. You can also push people out of the objectives, which can win games and not many characters have that ability. As an Iron Man main, Thor is a joke to me, I pop my charged chest beam on him, hover above his range and he's dead in seconds even with a healer sat on him. He is by far the easiest tank for me to melt.
You don’t normally play tanks or bruisers it seems. Everything you mentioned is a skill issue. He has an escape that is an attack. High damage for a tank. He is easy for healers to heal. His ult is good enough so the idea that it is terrible means you don’t understand the role of tank. A tanks job is controlling the battle and he is best at it thus far for a dive tank. If you feel like he is slow or dies when grouped then whoever is using him is bad at the basic skill of a tank (positioning).
I feel like the one aspect that was neglected for Rocket is he's by far the hardest support to kill. He has 2 dashes with a short cooldown and omnidirectional movement, a wall crawl, and his own primary can heal him. Luna, Mantis, and Cloak only have 1 ability to duck out of a fight, and Mantis and Luna have to hit them to get it off. Rocket will persist and resist way longer, which means he's around to keep healing the team where someone else would have likely gotten picked off and left the team vulnerable
I’ve played so many games as Iron Fist where I’ve tried to kill that trash panda and he just scurries up a wall and around a pole and into a window 😂 HE IS SO ELUSIVE
@@shoganai2545 She has a stun and an AOE that does more damage the closer you are while also having an escape and she shits on Penni's camping as well.
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Magik main here. She definitely needs more damage. I love her playstyle and as darkchild she's a monster, but her regular form needs to do some more damage for her to go from C to B
Jeff is S tier for being great, and Jeff is S tier in game. For all the reasons you said, plus he’s able to both get close range characters off of him by spitting a bubble and diving (he gets a stacking movement buff, healing, damage res, and bounces the opponent away). His ultimate is even better than we give it credit for, as you can also pick up slower teammates like Groot and carry them to the point while forcing them to play obj because you can spit out enemies and teammates separately.
I thank you for giving Penni Parker her flowers cause she is massively underrated. She is my favorite Vanguard to use. Jeff not in S tier almost subjecates the whole list to be thrown away 😂
I'm a filthy support main in most games I play, and I think the support ranks are fair. The thing I'd say about the two supports in S tier though, Mantis is way easier to play. You do have to aim well to get her damage off, but most of Daggers healing you also have to aim well, and your team isn't going to sit still in a fight. The heal over time buff Mantis can just throw out is strong, and you can basically spam click while your camera is near your party member. Her damage buff also just can't be ignored. Throw it on your dive tank, throw it on whoever is about to ult, and your team just wins the exchange. It does take some knowledge on who you want to buff, and when you want to save the damage buff for yourself, but Mantis is really good and fairly easy to play. Cloak and Dagger have some crazy abilities, but they can be hard to pull off. I can't remember the name, but Cloaks ability where he shrouds up your team is insane. It doesn't last long so the stealth aspect isn't super great, but turning everyone intangible for the duration can save lives. If you're good enough, you can use it to just dodge team killing ultimates. It can be hard to time though. Dagger has good healing output, but the aoe field she puts down can be hard for your team to stay in, and her wall thing is a bit slow so it can miss. Played well, I think they may be better than Mantis, but I honestly feel it comes down to ease of use.
Honestly the best tier list I’ve seen so far, except id move Luna into S and cloak and dagger to A. In every comp game above gold, 90% of the time it’s Luna and Mantis on both teams.
I do think you're bonkers for putting Squirrel Girl in D because she can so easily delete almost any other DPS/Support character, but otherwise our lists are basically identical :) good video!
sad that his ult is very mid and that he will lose 100 hp next season, if his ult was better and he had 600 hp always he would actually be A tier, rn he is overhyped, he is at the top of B tier maybe
There's nothing more satisfying than the enemy team diving the point during overtime right into a fully stocked spider-nest and ult. Feels like I used domain expansion everytime.
Wow the squirrel girl disrespects, doesn't even mention how the projectiles can ricochet off the walls, got so many kills that way, and one of the few characters that can do that. Bro probably played like two matches with her.
As a mantis main, I played Squirrel girl on my first day playing and got like a 16 ko streak. She definitely has high dps. I also love jumping whenever jeff ults, someone dashing at me or something. Though, Haven't tried her in ranks yet and if there was a good dps player she can get eliminated pretty quickly.
Squirrel Girl being more eh for now isn't actually that bad because it means she's very likely to get buffs, and she's only a few damage buffs away from her thresholds allowing her to two shot squishies with direct hits Getting better at her now is a good investment because when those buffs hit good Squirrel Girl players are gonna start terrorizing games
I think if Squirrel Girl gets a damage buff, her ammo needs to be nerf down to 8 shots or get a reload speed nerf because she’s such a spamable character who feels like she never runs out of ammo thanks to her refresher move
Love Loki’s kit, its full on troll. Can pretend to be a clone and be surprised how often you get ignored. Invisibility is unlimited you can walk around all day if you wanted to (dont forget to be a healer though). Rune healing is a surprising hard counter to burst ults because it makes you invincible in an area and ult gives you choice of best ults in current match.
@@PK-Sparrow The two replies here also show how no one can be bothered to kill the clones... which are literally more players for your team. I think he's one of the best in the game😛
Your comment contradicts itself. You said he's unstoppable "with enough skill", and then proceeded to say "no matter how good you are". Which one is it lol
Trying out characters and I think Mantis surprised me the most. The amount of output she has, how active she is and just how FAST she is even with just a basic walk and no dashes or anything, she just feels amazing to play. Reminds me of raid healing in MMOs, always watching everyone, popping heals, giving buffs, stun here, move here, keeps me awake instead of when I turn off my brain to play Venom or similar.
Just because you can make plays with a character doesn’t make them S or A tier. Sure damage or healing can be cracked, but the some of the characters just cannot survive if it’s just a 1v1. They just don’t have survivability or get away tools Squirrel Girl is probably the only character I can team wipe with just her normal abilities. Magik takes a while to reach her because of her jump, Tanks hitboxes are easier to hit from a distance and from the air, and being able to evade an iron fist with her acorn and jump are always satisfying. She has simple abilities but hell no she’s not easy to play
I’m honestly impressed. No offense but knowing nothing about your overwatch experience I expected this to be wildly inaccurate and noob-y but it’s more or less spot on Sincerely, a grandmaster overwatch player
personally as an iron man main i find it weird how people rank him so low, in a lot of tier lists he’s always in D or F tier, i guess it makes sense considering if they have a hela, winter soldier, punisher, and sometimes scarlet witch (scarlet players tend to target me a lot for some reason) then yeah, i understand. other than him being targeted sometimes, he’s great for chip damage and with his unibeam while using armor overdrive is unstoppable. just play around your supports and pick off somebody if possible and he preforms just fine. of course this could just mean he’s good in low elo because people don’t really shoot at me. this will definitely change when i get to the higher ranks lol.
He’s just easy to hit off the air and he doesn’t do that much damage if he’s not in unbeam range. I play rocket and cloak and dagger and I rub my hands whenever I see an iron man
If they made Wanda’s ult a little faster that would make her viable in higher ranks. She literally can’t ult in anything gold or higher. But her phase makes her safe….her primary is automatic…..and secondary dmg hits hard af. She has no range and no ult in higher ranks but she’s still solid
Her Ult needs a rework. It doesn't work and can't work unless you are literally a brain dead player. Even Captain America can stop her before it goes off
Adam, Black Panther, and Iron fist in B is wild. They are all so clearly A characters atm. A good BP or IF are the bane of any character that isnt a vanguard, and Adam can literally revive the whole team on a temporary loop and his damage for a healer is CRACKED
As someone who mains Hawkeye, I have to say that he is one of if not the most BRAINDEAD character to play. You just need semi good aim to get a kd of 20:1
I've tried to find a main for each class and currently I'm Luna, Thor, and Hawkeye. This video convinced me I definitely need to try Mantis but also I'm on the right track. I'm pretty shocked at your thoughts on Starlord. The most I've ever been dominated is by a Starlord.
Wolverine needs some sort of healing vamp or life leach on his attacks. His mutant power is a healing factor and they don’t really use it. Life leach would also make him more tanky. His ultimate doesn’t really make sense either. The jumping and diving down just doesn’t make sense. A berserker rage that gives him speed, healing, and faster attacks would be more fitting imo.
Funny that you said the Groot walls take forever to die because I main Squirrel Girl and she takes those down so fast. My issue with Groot is when he's on my team the walls just get in the way. Naturally since I main her, I do think she should be higher than D (I'd argue B would be more fitting). I think she's better than Namor or Punisher (who could both probably drop down a tier). Her kit is simple, and her ult isn't great, but she packs a punch and I have carried so many games with her. I think her shift is one of the best mobility abilities in the game, and she also has some good crowd control. She's the kind of hero who can work well with almost any composition. She may be one of the easier heroes to pick up, but unlike Scarlet Witch, she doesn't age poorly. Her only real downsides are her ult (which you just have to understand isn't a win condition but rather something to save for the right moment), and she's not great at attacking flyers. Also I think she's the most capable back line hero when it comes to dealing with divers. Edit: I had an idea for a new SG ult if they ever wanted to rework it. Early in the Ryan North run, Doreen got a bunch of squirrels to cover her to conceal her identity, it would be sick if her ult just covered her in squirrels, maybe making her a temporary tank with the option to send the suit off on its own similar to her current ult.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 That one is mostly just because I have killed far more Punishers as Squirrel Girl than them me. He's just one of those heroes that's not hard to deal with as SG so he doesn't feel that threatening
@@Joenah5 sure but at higher level of plays things change. The question is also how is your team play with squirrel? can you burst when needed? Again though I get saying namor being the same level as her.
@@Joenah5 in casual but in competitive it changes. she seems good but against a competent team she isn't good. namor has more direct damage and team comp than her. You could trade the two and i wouldn't care but they are both low tier. Both d or lower so trade the 2 it doesn't really matter.
I think Iron Man is C tier. You're jsut kinda judging him from what lowskill people do (fly 5000 miles away and plink until he gets ult) but he can flank and fly behind the enemy team and get healers down really quickly. He's still squishy and doesn't have a great escape since his dash has such a windup, and hitscan heroes still destroy him, but D feels a bit too harsh.
I'd put him higher, I am only playing him and I am at Gold 1 solo and rising. His ability to melt tanks with a charged chest beam is insane as long as you can track aim, which I learnt from 15 years of quake 3 arena lightning gun usage lol. And like you said, flanking in and taking out both healers in seconds is insane. People have way underrated him, just because bad players sit 10miles up in the sky and get 1 shot by hela. That just isn't how you play him, you gotta be smart and he even plays great on the ground or just a few feet up, dipping up and down above and below your tanks shields and back etc.
Yea I main iron man and I'm really good with him. I won every game with him in competitive. He is great if you don't have trash teammates. Trust me he is one of the needed dualists in the team to win
I drop 35-55 frag matches consistently with Hela, Star and Moon Knight annnnnd surprisingly…Venom is up there. Venom is so good for a tank, it just isn’t as viable as Groot or Magneto. Venom is a solo survival tank which I feel isn’t great for team besides holding point and catching aggro from people who aren’t as focused on team firing.
10:04 don’t swallow your teammates ok yeah so this guy I’m sorry this list is so bad it hurts, Jeff heals his teammates by eating them and your timer is not reduced by spitting them out
I just started Marvek Rivals today and picked up Bucky, and my God is he fun. I think A tier is very solid for him because if he wants you in his corner, you aren't getting out of it and you're in for a world of hurt, but he really doesn't have a lot of mobility outside of his ult. But my God, the recharging ult every time you kill with it brings him from a high be to the King of A tier. Jumping around and Doomfist slamming people will never get old
Magik in C feels like a Crime that would put one directly on death row without trial. Her only weakness is stunning. But once You’re in someones face you might as well be currently attending their funeral. Even with the nerfs I think shes still in the middle of A (high B if you really wanna put her low).
Hulk is a great control and disrupter tank. You gotta use him to jump back line healers and use his stun to stop other tanks from pushing. Shield gives charge to his ultimate so if you use if while jumping in you'll get a good boost. The ultimate is just Winston's Primal Rage but people sleep on the instant recharge power clap and stun ability. The grab is somewhat useful as a lock down on healers too. I feel like most people just aren't using the jump enough. Being Bruce isn't too bad either. Just focus the placed abilities for quick charge back into hulk. The grenade can get you out of some bad situations too. Also if you super jump while dying you can launch yourself back into your healers before the invisibility from the transformation back into Bruce ends.
Completely agree with Hawkeye. I main him and his DPS is crazy. Also with Cloak & Dagger. Love to play them cuz you can dish out damage w cloak, and if you’re low on health, switch to Dagger, use the globe, switch back and boom. Instant turret 😂
I like how you formatted the list lol looks like it’s entirely in game
Cozzi always puts so much effort into his videos. The viewers truly appreciate it.
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Wolverine either needs a buff to his survivability or his cooldowns. His kit is ok but the numbers are not there for him.
His damage def needs a beef , I feel like I’m doing no damage when I main him. He’s more of a distraction than an actual threat
@ his damage is fine maybe a slight base increase to his enraged swipes after the dash but he’s a tank buster. His time to kill is almost the same no matter who you’re fighting, he just doesn’t have the hp to survive brawls because he’s pretty big for a dps. Should’ve been a self sustaining tank but that’s my bias bc I play vanguard
@@imbroke6195 yk that would be cool and funny cause of how small he is compared to the tanks
Should've made wolverine a tank tbh
Why are you surprised, it's a shooter and he's all melee, it's like bringing a Knife to a GUNFIGHT.
People will say Wolverine is bad, but if they tell you he isn’t fun as hell, they’re lying. Great design overall
I'm still new to the game but he's my favorite so far. Hulk is also very fun.
Ye the idea of his kit is fantastic, I love it. Seems like a recipe for a really fun character to play. He just doesn’t feel as strong as I feel he should.
@@jdawg86he feels like he doesn’t do enough dmg
@@Dephor0 easily the toughest duellist tho, 300hp (600 with his dmg resistance buff) and can fully restore 300 health on death gives him effectively 900hp in a short burst. also his dmg is heavily percentage based so with full rage and his attack speed buff he shreds tanks like nobody else
@@glassofwater281 Yeah but hulk feels so weak, his punches barely do any damage compared to other characters.
Peni feels unkillable sometimes. She is public enemy number 2 behind Iron fist
Jeff?
@@leddinashed7552maybe if Jeff wasn’t adorable
a lone Squirrel Girls shits on Penny
Did a peni cancel your ult with a random alt fire?
You can be honest here, this is a safe space.
@@charlesjackson2368being adorable doesn’t save him from having the single most obnoxious ultimate in the game.
As a hulk main I agree. He needs something. Higher dmg, faster movement, and even self healing would make sense. Also his jump should do dmg on impact imo
IMO, Hulk should get CC reduction or Immunity as a passive.
@@pallygoat7150 Nah, save that passive for if they add Juggernaut to the game
I think tying hulks super jump to a meter was a mistake. I think he should have just gotten it as an extremely low cooldown ability. That charge meter is holding him back. If thor can have 1 second cooldowna on all his abilities. Hulk can have a 1 second cooldown on his super jump.
@@AkilTheAwesomeagreed. the way his jump works is just so weird and it takes too long it’s just not efficient in a fast paced game trying to jump on someone in the air
Agreed, and also with the jump meter thing mentioned by AkilTheAwsome. I think it'd be nice if he had a dash or something in banner form as well to help get out of sticky situations after just turning back, or maybe a second or two of a smaller shield. And maybe making it so whatever the jump will hit will have some kind of marker on it, like a target.
As a person who has never read or watched anything Marvel, it is SO funny to me when people try to shotcall with the characters 'human names'.
Mid fight they start shouting "Eric can die, eric can die!" Bro who tf is Eric and why are we killing him 😅
Lmaooooooooo, it’s magneto if you still didn’t know btw
I'm eric why am I dying
Same! I know nothing of the mcu, lol
@@PK-SparrowAlso Peter Parker can be confused with Peter Quill if you just say Peter
@@bfocoman marvel is a lot, lot more than just the mcu. half the characters in this game have never appeared in the mcu
I hate to agree with where Storm is. She is my main, I love her but she needs some kind of buff. Maybe mov speed in the air, maybe a little extra damage. Just something.
Storm should have different primary and secondary fires depending on which stance she's in. In wind stance her primary should be long horizontal blades of air that deal less damage and have shorter damage drop off, but hit wider areas. Her secondary fire in this stance is a large cone of wind that deals minor damage, but knocks enemies back. In her lightning stance she should have lightning bolts that require better accuracy, but deal considerably more damage with less damage drop off and her secondary fire should be a chain lightning that can bounce between targets.
Imo the biggest problem is her movement. Iron man has a 0 cooldown flight that makes it alot harder to hit his head. If you manage the flight meter well you can always have it up. Storm her movement speed buff isn't good enough unpowered. Even when using cover properly it's way to easy to catch a storm.
Her movement and dmg boost is awful
@@noverriusI feel like this is a really good idea, but at this point i kinda think they should just lean into her support stuff and make her a full on strategist. Add some kind of healing rain ability. The game needs more strategists anyways, she fits that role in my eyes more
@@noverrius i love that
Iron man main, his problem isn’t his damage or his kit, it’s how much he is targeted, when your in the sky, or anywhere, not only do you stick out like a sore thumb, but you also are a very slow flier, meaning you can’t escape.
True
my brother is adamant that iron man and his infinite flight is broken, refuses to listen to reason but as an iron man main, we're squishy and were out in the open, plus in order to use the beam you gotta be within danger range.
@@Voidmire626 fr, the beam needs longer range, I need to be in a range where I basically die to everyone due to the fact that I can’t move fast enough to dodge while using the beam.
Honestly that's completely fair. As a C&D main I go up against a lot of Iron Man players and at first they were like mosquitoes to me and were really annoying when I didn't know how to deal with them. But I learned I could just wall as cloak and kill with my beam. Even if I didn't hit the wall, I would be able to do enough damage to where they would either just keep shooting till they died or they try to fly away and still die. I think he should just be a bit more faster since his damage and ult are pretty damn good.
So.. he's right?
Good call on peni, I’ve been “maining” her as much as possible in competitive. She can really anchor choke points extremely hard and can make life absolute hell if her nest is able to stay active.
Extremely underrated mobility and only tank with actual cc that doesn’t break instantly *LOOKING AT YOU HULK*
I find Iron Man to be really good at killing her nest though.
Because, you know, flying.
Tried Peni and was surprised how much pressure she exerts. Back line gets hard to flank because of spider mines and she has a lot of mobility because of her web pulling herself along with it and wall running, and her 4 second cooldown stun has so much utility. She also doesn’t need to reload and can even toss her mines pretty far into the middle of enemy groups. People cant peek around corners because can just toss mines to pressure.
Hulks CC does not break instantly you just can’t swing on the immobilized target it tells you this in the abilities…
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Not just her nest, fly into chest beam range, overcharge it, melts tanks so fast and she has no shield or anything to stop you unlike Dr Strange etc. and you can do that from the ground so you have zero risk from hela/hawkeyes. Just push with your tank and that's the true iron man playstyle.
It's insane how many people don't destroy her spider nest. Unfortunately for me I play mostly grounded melee characters, and trying to dive her nest to allow my team to get on the point sees me dying more often than not.
The mines do way too much damage in my opinion. Some of them have one shot my Magik
I feel like Wolverine has 1 very easy buff, and that buff will make him from F to ATLEAST B tier. And that buff is, make him a Vanguard. Because a Wolverine with 300HP is a threat yes, but a Wolverine with even just 600 HP could pose a threat for the whole enemy team, lower everyone's health, kill the supports, get assists, he would have it all. Cause for a tank, his mobility would be great. For a Duelist, his mobility sucks. Either give him a 2nd dash, lower his cooldowns, or make him a tank. Those are the best ways to buff him
I agree completely. I also think they could adjust the way his healing works. His current regeneration is weird, maybe they can simplify and just give him flat healing per second to artificially inflate his HP. Maybe 500 HP with 10 health regen/second. Make him someone the enemies have to focus down.
They could also just give him about 10% more damage and give him a passive health regen that’s always active but ramps up out of combat.
Give him more health and a second dash on his M2. And he would be amazing.
Also maybe lifesteal?! :O
@johnx140 Or a regen that heals like 10HP per second, but doubles when his rage is maxed to 20HP
I’d make his undying animal special regen health instead of reducing damage and also give him the ability to scramble up walls like rocket & black panther its so annoying have to use the leap to gain high ground
As a cloak and dagger main, I legit didn’t expect them to be this high! Definitely not as flashy as some of the other supports, but crazy consistent, I’m glad they’re getting respect
Me too! As a C&D main myself, I expected A since Daggers healing isn't as strong as some other supports. It makes sense the more I think about it though. Cloaks utility is CRAZY and being able to deny a Jeff ult with Rmb is WILD!
She has the best kit, hard to counter. Once you learn her escape/engage, unkillable.
Its a very complete hero, dagger heals and cloaks damage is very solid, and good mobility.
@@gabrielgoncalves2763I will say that I do wish they had a little more movement speed, even if only dagger got it or something, but that’s neither here nor there. Largely I agree with you for sure!
@@dariuswilliams2879absolutely agree - it feels like they just take such a long time (especially with Dagger out) to either disengage or reset into a fight. They just need a bit of a movement boost to put them in line with some of the other characters
I had to pause the video to comment because you just said something about people learning to destroy equipment in relation to your commentary on Moon Knight.
Oh. My. God. It's crazy how in almost every single game I play, I am the only person who goes for gear. The ankhs, Loki's clones/runes, Namor's Monstros, Rocket's ult/revive, like there's so much random shit that just gets left sitting out and then people wonder why they're getting overwhelmed.
Groot and Cap in the same tier might be a war crime
Why?
@@thefullmetaltitan9732cap is legit trash
@@thefullmetaltitan9732groot is better than cap
Its like groot = A, cap = C
Cap is the GOAT
i think its really hard to do a tier list of this game cause most of the characters are so deadly in the right hands and they are all crap in someone else's
COMPLETELY TRUE
Yeah, Squirrel Girl’s shots do so much damage that I honestly thought it was a mistake. Once you get used to the arc over long distances, you’re a serious threat.
fr lol everyone says cap, wolverine, spider-man, etc. are complete doggy doodoo but if someone plays them just right they will tear you apart
@@dankerbell you ain't wrong, I'm trash with spider man so I thought he was bad but I've played with some cracked Spidermans, straight carrying the team
EXACTLY. I've seen EVERY character from C Tier down do some serious damage in competitive play. Wolverine is one of the last people I'd want to be caught alone with if im using anyone who ain't a tank or flying. Even Hela lol I'll bail out with the bird and Wolverine will just keep closing in and then slice and dice me😂😂😂 then proceed to do the same to some poor soul I couldn't heal bc I was running from him 😂😂😂😂
I dont think Wolverine has an issue with kit cohesion. Everything flows well together and he feels super fun. His main issue is literally time. His big leap has way too long of a cooldown so you spend half the game waiting for it and his damage resist just doesnt last as long as you want it to. He feels really solid but has too much downtime. Really hope they dont buff him with a damage buff and go for a buff to his cooldowns.
Also his damage without max rage and the attack speed buff from said leap is pitiful
I do agree that Wolverine could use a buff, but I’ve gone against a few absolute menace Wolverine players that just refuse to die
problem is is cooldowns, with his abillities up hes tankier than some vanguards, but then he has to withdraw for way too long before he can fight again
@ And his passive, what lets him stay in the fight just long enough to get the cooldowns again, is 90 SECONDS! So good luck surviving for the next couple fights.
Me too. I completely agree.
fr sometimes his rage thing feels like it lasts forever and he just shreds you down
I main Cap and I think a B tier is correct. His main problem is his cooldowns are unnecessarily long. His ult is arguably the strongest in the game but the long charge time limits it.
As a fellow lover of democracy and spreader of freedom, i completely agree
Strongest in the game? You joking right ?
@@WpMeOskar9000that would be Jeff or Adam warlock for sure not sure what this dude on about dr strange and hulk ult really strong too
nah, i give him a A or S. he's very op imo
cap's ult is a joke 😂
worst in the game besides cloak
8:00 iron fist can wall run, range is no issue it’s getting in and out. Utilize his block to absorb damage and charge chi then combo off. He gets 3 jumps which have a VERY short cool down. The cooldown does not start until he touches any surface he can walk on. Juggle your damage with your maneuverability and he’s a really good character just don’t over estimate how “tanky” you can be because he is actually very squishy.
He’s S tier this guys tripping
Yea, iron fist is S tier, I just killed a venom, and peni parker alone with no help, he's too good bro @@clay6394
I have a 90% chance of becoming a MVP with Cloak and Dagger. I love them so much.
Healing and damage just play a bigger role in that title when you get both
Healing+damage+aimbot lol
“US AGAINST THE WORLD!”
cant wait for them to get nerfed
Me having 10+ game in à row MVP on tank 😂
The editing in this alone deserves a sub and like. I barely even play this game enough to have an opinion on the rankings, but the editing looks like it’s literally in-game. Great video
I tried playing Adam and I think the only thing keeping him from being really good is his inability to heal with basic attacks. Those abilities go on cooldown and you definitely need a second strategist with him and it's very hard to get in a quick play
Yeah but a great b is you need an off healer who can do burst heal and damage.
He gets so many assists lol .. I average 12 a game
Thats why i love playing off healer ....you play from the back and get protected just like a support , but dish crazy damage like a dps while healing for alot ...not as much as a dedicated main healer but still alot , adam warlock is exactly that ......hes the best off support really ...esp if you land your headshots , a headshot right click headshot combo kills just about any other support and alot of dps heroes , his ult is a massive fuck you to the enemy team , his soul bind needs a teeny tiny cooldown buff... Like a 0.5-1 secs cooldown buff.
I deadass had 16 assists one game lol
not putting jeff in s tier is a war crime
Facts literally the most broken character
Jeff is a warcrime
Jeff is all head lol. So easy to serve jeff sushi with hela or punisher.
Jeff is squishy. But if your playing a map with ledges that are easy to get to, he is literally a cute little Satan lol
Jeff is S tier forever
I love Magik’s Kit. I started with venom then chose Magik as my DPS and she absolutely shreds bro. I engage supports when they’re alone and the portal minion rips through most tanks if they are near it. Love how I can use her to escape or engage, but she is deff squishy, little room for errors.
Eh, she’s poop in any rank above gold. If there’s a Magik on the enemy team, I see it as a free win.
250 hp for mele character with slowest animations in game? She just punch bag.
@@claritycontrol108the whole point of her character is that you can extend your life by playing aggro and smart. If you aren’t able to survive situations then you either need to play more patient, or hit more abilities to get more shield
@joshuabussey7854 but if she gets hit by any amount of cc she just immediately dies
@ I hear you but I also think that people underrate the skill ceiling with her tp, you can bait out a ton of high value abilities
23:59 HOW DID HE KNOW!!?!?!?
Loki may have needed a tiny bit more love. This is just because as a Loki main I think I can say myself, that his clones just extremely boost his healing to his teammates, but besides that, good tier list man. 👍
His clones deal damage too
Have yet to see a tier list that understands Loki lmao. I think a lot of people don’t realize how his clones work: they only shoot when you shoot, where you shoot. I thought they were just ai controlled bots for the longest time but they literally triple your damage/healing. Not even to mention his healing runes which also spawn on his clones and effectively make you and your teammates invincible.
@@mattslatt3 this might be incorrect but don’t his clones give enemy proc to their ultra?
@@dmwanderer9454 I know, I just thought it slightly more important to mention his healing than damage based on what he said in the video.
they've never experienced being jumped by a melee character then just snapping your fingers to teleport across the map
As a Peni Parker main, I think she’s an A tier, I think a lot of players don’t understand how to use her, and right now people don’t know how to get to her, she can seriously lock down an area and keep it that way.
@@Revenant530 A is an overstatement, what happens if they actually knows to destroy your nest? What happens when you're not on control on the point? Penny lack defense to help the team imo. In cases where you need to hold choke Magneto got you covered with way more ability to deny value
I reckon Peni is S tier on certain map/sections and C/D tier in other areas. Quite like the specialisation she has on locking shit down.
@@neganlucille9302then you move away she has pretty mobility and cc.
@@xDJxChowwy yeah but we have groot already
@@DTDMGOSTBUSTER so your answer if the enemy is on control of the point is to move away, there by reducing your value even further? Great answer ngl
I agree with S rank Dr.Strange. I won 7 competitive silver matches in a row with him. He's my main now lol.
Bro I’ve followed you since marvel snap launch and I’m glad you have another marvel game to share coverage on bro your awesome good luck!!
I fell like Magic in C is harsh. She is a solid B with WAAAY better duelling potential than any of the other melees (as long as you hit the combos).
Thing is, her combos aren’t even particularly hard. They are decided merely by wether you hit dash or not.
And her animation cancel combos aren't too hard either.
@
Her animations cancel combos are all literally just “use dash” lmao.
She's not as easy to use as Iron Fist, but she can phase out to dodge attacks unlike him, so is more durable in a sense.
she got pretty long cooldown though
Wolverine definitely matches her dmg if not more
Yeah this is all cool and stuff, but when they release my boy DOOM there will need to be an SS Tier for his power
'DOOM' tier fr
Correct.
Ah yes
I'm going to main the hell out of Doom
Really love the way you did the layout, looks great
Great take on Mantis. She’s an absolute sniper and is so unbelievably fun. Amazing hero with a lot of potential but a lot of need for good aim to work well!
RELATABLEEEE!!!
I am Maining Squirrel Girl and im am pretty good, i love her but it is true that the ultimate could do something else, maybe leave enemies trapped or something like that, because otherwise you must use it very well and at an ideal angle or to execute an enemy team with low HP
The last thing is what I apply often, also what I do is throw it inside closed places if I notice that the rival team is planning an ambush somewhere of that type, also another way to use it is to give an enter to the tank or the dualite
she's good tho deserves tier a (low a) she can just cc lock you to death and that's pretty strong but yeah her ult could be more useful also she has good survivability
@@WHOAMI-v yeah the cc is heavy and if you use the team up ability with spiderman she becomes a cc monster
@@WHOAMI-v Only what you need to play her well is a nice aim and know how to bounce the nuts
That's what her acorn is for trapping and stunning enemies.
I just got into this game and man your videos are awesome. Straight to the point, no BS, clear concise explanations and examples. Could not ask for a better guide at a better time for someone starting out!
Great commentary throughout the entire video man. Hats off to you, hope more people see your content and channel.
I just wanna say that your one of the most interesting RUclipsrs I have ever listened to. You make all the boring shit like tier lists funny and entertaining. I don't subscribe or use notifications for anybody, but you have absolutely earned it. Keep up the good work!
Well said
Cleanest tier list for format I’ve seen. Glad to see Mantis and Cloak being rated higher now
I couldn't be happier with where you put psylocke. As a die hard burst assassin fan in every game where that term is relevant (Diana in League of Legends, Genji in Overwatch, Valeera in Heroes of the Storm), I can see how Psylocke will end up being a menace with a huge skill ceiling
5:26 Groots facial response when you put him at B tier
Lol
Cozy!!! So glad to see you’re back. Makes me reminisce about the early DSA days. I used to love your videos! Excited to see what you bring to Rivals
Can someone here explain to me why thor is high up on this tier list? I love playing him, but to me, while his damage is good on awakening mode, his normal mode is sad. He is slow as heck and people can just walk away if he doesn’t have his charge, All of his abilities go on cooldown if he uses one, which makes throwing the hammer useless, and his ult is just terrible. Sure, he can be bulky but with no retreat he just dies if grouped up, and while awakening is nice, he doesn’t really help his team at all and at best he is a big guy that the team has to jump around, which they can due to his speed. This is not to spread hate but I am just wondering since I have seen people say he is both the best and worst and I am wondering how people are saying he is good.
TBH I think he's just good as an objective holder, because he has a constant "heal". If you just dip in and out of cover and throw his hammer, you essentially get a 100 point heal, over and over. You can also push people out of the objectives, which can win games and not many characters have that ability. As an Iron Man main, Thor is a joke to me, I pop my charged chest beam on him, hover above his range and he's dead in seconds even with a healer sat on him. He is by far the easiest tank for me to melt.
You don’t normally play tanks or bruisers it seems. Everything you mentioned is a skill issue. He has an escape that is an attack. High damage for a tank. He is easy for healers to heal. His ult is good enough so the idea that it is terrible means you don’t understand the role of tank. A tanks job is controlling the battle and he is best at it thus far for a dive tank. If you feel like he is slow or dies when grouped then whoever is using him is bad at the basic skill of a tank (positioning).
Dude is C on a good day, I dunno what he is smoking to think he is A.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 "he is best at it thus far for a dive tank." You need to stop taking drugs, Venom Shits all over Thor.
@@pegetavenom is ass😂
I feel like the one aspect that was neglected for Rocket is he's by far the hardest support to kill. He has 2 dashes with a short cooldown and omnidirectional movement, a wall crawl, and his own primary can heal him. Luna, Mantis, and Cloak only have 1 ability to duck out of a fight, and Mantis and Luna have to hit them to get it off. Rocket will persist and resist way longer, which means he's around to keep healing the team where someone else would have likely gotten picked off and left the team vulnerable
I’ve played so many games as Iron Fist where I’ve tried to kill that trash panda and he just scurries up a wall and around a pole and into a window 😂 HE IS SO ELUSIVE
Squirrel girl in D is WILD.
D is correct, if you think otherwise you have to be silver or lower
@@shoganai2545 Blood the game came out like 2 days ago, everyone is silver or lower (unless u have no life and have 50 hours in the game already)
@@shoganai2545she has almost same dmg when head shot as Hella so bro?
@@shoganai2545 u obv are playing against bots xd
@@shoganai2545 She has a stun and an AOE that does more damage the closer you are while also having an escape and she shits on Penni's camping as well.
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Magik main here. She definitely needs more damage. I love her playstyle and as darkchild she's a monster, but her regular form needs to do some more damage for her to go from C to B
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Jeff is S tier for being great, and Jeff is S tier in game. For all the reasons you said, plus he’s able to both get close range characters off of him by spitting a bubble and diving (he gets a stacking movement buff, healing, damage res, and bounces the opponent away). His ultimate is even better than we give it credit for, as you can also pick up slower teammates like Groot and carry them to the point while forcing them to play obj because you can spit out enemies and teammates separately.
I thank you for giving Penni Parker her flowers cause she is massively underrated. She is my favorite Vanguard to use. Jeff not in S tier almost subjecates the whole list to be thrown away 😂
Doesnt he have the best healing?
@@YaySyu That, and he is virtually unkillable if played right.
I've loved playing penni definitely my main. And my wife is now obsessed with Jeff. Not for playing just because he's so fucking adorable lmao
@@YaySyu not best healing, far better healers id say. HIs survivability and ult are just so good
@@sir_gorthow so?
You can hit him when he is burrowing harder to hit but its pretty easy for him to pop all of his cooldowns.
Fellow star lord mains out there ?
My man.
Pushing 160k on a video in under 24 hrs?? As a long time Cozy enjoyer this makes me so proud! Congrats homie, you've earned it.
Groot is the biggest miss I think you have. If you play against a good one it’s really game changing and hard to deal with. Should at least be A tier.
Most groots i play against are trash tbh I main peni and I single him constantly with very little dmg taken
I'm a filthy support main in most games I play, and I think the support ranks are fair. The thing I'd say about the two supports in S tier though, Mantis is way easier to play. You do have to aim well to get her damage off, but most of Daggers healing you also have to aim well, and your team isn't going to sit still in a fight. The heal over time buff Mantis can just throw out is strong, and you can basically spam click while your camera is near your party member. Her damage buff also just can't be ignored. Throw it on your dive tank, throw it on whoever is about to ult, and your team just wins the exchange. It does take some knowledge on who you want to buff, and when you want to save the damage buff for yourself, but Mantis is really good and fairly easy to play. Cloak and Dagger have some crazy abilities, but they can be hard to pull off. I can't remember the name, but Cloaks ability where he shrouds up your team is insane. It doesn't last long so the stealth aspect isn't super great, but turning everyone intangible for the duration can save lives. If you're good enough, you can use it to just dodge team killing ultimates. It can be hard to time though. Dagger has good healing output, but the aoe field she puts down can be hard for your team to stay in, and her wall thing is a bit slow so it can miss. Played well, I think they may be better than Mantis, but I honestly feel it comes down to ease of use.
I enjoy Groot. He's just a chill guy that makes people annoyed because he cuts line of sight and creates chokepoints out of thin air.
Including his teammates
Honestly the best tier list I’ve seen so far, except id move Luna into S and cloak and dagger to A. In every comp game above gold, 90% of the time it’s Luna and Mantis on both teams.
Luna was a far better ult but C&D is way more consistent mid fight
I do think you're bonkers for putting Squirrel Girl in D because she can so easily delete almost any other DPS/Support character, but otherwise our lists are basically identical :) good video!
Once you get the hang of Thor, look out OMG
I’ve gotten a shitload of kills with Thor
@@anthonyallmond3682 I've killed shitloads of Thors as well
Hello fellow thor enjoyr
sad that his ult is very mid and that he will lose 100 hp next season, if his ult was better and he had 600 hp always he would actually be A tier, rn he is overhyped, he is at the top of B tier maybe
Wait Thor is going down to 500 health WHY
Excellent video! best tier list I've seen so far, and most visually appealing as well. well done.
This game is so fun!! Can’t wait for season 1!!
There's nothing more satisfying than the enemy team diving the point during overtime right into a fully stocked spider-nest and ult. Feels like I used domain expansion everytime.
Missing Alex for this tier list. Can we get a Rivals podcast with the two of you???
Bro no way Cozy is covering this game. Loved your content on snap and can’t wait to follow you on Rivals
Wow the squirrel girl disrespects, doesn't even mention how the projectiles can ricochet off the walls, got so many kills that way, and one of the few characters that can do that. Bro probably played like two matches with her.
High ranks always under estimate the grenade spam character,happened with junkrat and is happening again with squirrel girl
As a mantis main, I played Squirrel girl on my first day playing and got like a 16 ko streak. She definitely has high dps. I also love jumping whenever jeff ults, someone dashing at me or something.
Though, Haven't tried her in ranks yet and if there was a good dps player she can get eliminated pretty quickly.
Got bored with Snap and so god you have a Rivals channel. One of my favorite content creators! Keep up awesome work
Squirrel Girl being more eh for now isn't actually that bad because it means she's very likely to get buffs, and she's only a few damage buffs away from her thresholds allowing her to two shot squishies with direct hits
Getting better at her now is a good investment because when those buffs hit good Squirrel Girl players are gonna start terrorizing games
I think if Squirrel Girl gets a damage buff, her ammo needs to be nerf down to 8 shots or get a reload speed nerf because she’s such a spamable character who feels like she never runs out of ammo thanks to her refresher move
Almost 5 million views on the channel Cozy! You are the reason I started playing this game.
Loki in the right hands with enough skill is unstoppable and an S tier no matter how good you are.😂
Love Loki’s kit, its full on troll. Can pretend to be a clone and be surprised how often you get ignored. Invisibility is unlimited you can walk around all day if you wanted to (dont forget to be a healer though). Rune healing is a surprising hard counter to burst ults because it makes you invincible in an area and ult gives you choice of best ults in current match.
@@PK-Sparrow The two replies here also show how no one can be bothered to kill the clones... which are literally more players for your team. I think he's one of the best in the game😛
Your comment contradicts itself. You said he's unstoppable "with enough skill", and then proceeded to say "no matter how good you are". Which one is it lol
@dudder6633I meant he is an S tier no matter who you are but if put in the right hands unstoppable so both but I did use weird wording😃
@@ChampRH aight thx for the clarification
Trying out characters and I think Mantis surprised me the most. The amount of output she has, how active she is and just how FAST she is even with just a basic walk and no dashes or anything, she just feels amazing to play.
Reminds me of raid healing in MMOs, always watching everyone, popping heals, giving buffs, stun here, move here, keeps me awake instead of when I turn off my brain to play Venom or similar.
6:00 the song that comes on just SLAPS.
Specialist is a certified banger for sure 😎
exactly what I said
I love these tier list I’ve watched so many and everyone’s list is so different 😊shows how balanced this game is
Just because you can make plays with a character doesn’t make them S or A tier. Sure damage or healing can be cracked, but the some of the characters just cannot survive if it’s just a 1v1. They just don’t have survivability or get away tools
Squirrel Girl is probably the only character I can team wipe with just her normal abilities. Magik takes a while to reach her because of her jump, Tanks hitboxes are easier to hit from a distance and from the air, and being able to evade an iron fist with her acorn and jump are always satisfying. She has simple abilities but hell no she’s not easy to play
Easy to get into due to just being plain simple but once you actually get good you are a menace,squirrel girl is at least A tier
Squirrel Girl is low S or high A because she has a complete kit.
Thank you for the list.. one question however...When I was in school, C was average. Why are so few rated C?
I’m honestly impressed. No offense but knowing nothing about your overwatch experience I expected this to be wildly inaccurate and noob-y but it’s more or less spot on
Sincerely, a grandmaster overwatch player
He's wrong though.
No one considers Pharah bottom tier.
@@kamikeserpentail3778how tf is Pharah
Best video quality out of all of the marvel rivals content creators
Stopped watching after he put my boy iron fist in b tier 😂
Finally a good list. A lot of people make a list after barely playing the game
As Strange I can't count how many times my squad wiped from pushing too far and I managed to hold out until they get back.
Character's busted
lol what elo u in? 1 v 5 shows ur enemies arent good. No disrespect to u
@jareddavulture58 I do quickplay, I find that playing ranked often makes me enjoy the game less
personally as an iron man main i find it weird how people rank him so low, in a lot of tier lists he’s always in D or F tier, i guess it makes sense considering if they have a hela, winter soldier, punisher, and sometimes scarlet witch (scarlet players tend to target me a lot for some reason) then yeah, i understand. other than him being targeted sometimes, he’s great for chip damage and with his unibeam while using armor overdrive is unstoppable. just play around your supports and pick off somebody if possible and he preforms just fine. of course this could just mean he’s good in low elo because people don’t really shoot at me. this will definitely change when i get to the higher ranks lol.
He’s just easy to hit off the air and he doesn’t do that much damage if he’s not in unbeam range. I play rocket and cloak and dagger and I rub my hands whenever I see an iron man
@ fair enough lmao
If they made Wanda’s ult a little faster that would make her viable in higher ranks. She literally can’t ult in anything gold or higher. But her phase makes her safe….her primary is automatic…..and secondary dmg hits hard af. She has no range and no ult in higher ranks but she’s still solid
She totally can if she is protected
Her Ult needs a rework. It doesn't work and can't work unless you are literally a brain dead player. Even Captain America can stop her before it goes off
Adam, Black Panther, and Iron fist in B is wild. They are all so clearly A characters atm. A good BP or IF are the bane of any character that isnt a vanguard, and Adam can literally revive the whole team on a temporary loop and his damage for a healer is CRACKED
As someone who mains Hawkeye, I have to say that he is one of if not the most BRAINDEAD character to play. You just need semi good aim to get a kd of 20:1
I can imagine that on PC he is cracked. Press lmb to instakill.
I've tried to find a main for each class and currently I'm Luna, Thor, and Hawkeye. This video convinced me I definitely need to try Mantis but also I'm on the right track. I'm pretty shocked at your thoughts on Starlord. The most I've ever been dominated is by a Starlord.
Jeff! Top tier adorable guy
Wolverine needs some sort of healing vamp or life leach on his attacks. His mutant power is a healing factor and they don’t really use it. Life leach would also make him more tanky.
His ultimate doesn’t really make sense either. The jumping and diving down just doesn’t make sense. A berserker rage that gives him speed, healing, and faster attacks would be more fitting imo.
Funny that you said the Groot walls take forever to die because I main Squirrel Girl and she takes those down so fast. My issue with Groot is when he's on my team the walls just get in the way. Naturally since I main her, I do think she should be higher than D (I'd argue B would be more fitting). I think she's better than Namor or Punisher (who could both probably drop down a tier). Her kit is simple, and her ult isn't great, but she packs a punch and I have carried so many games with her. I think her shift is one of the best mobility abilities in the game, and she also has some good crowd control. She's the kind of hero who can work well with almost any composition. She may be one of the easier heroes to pick up, but unlike Scarlet Witch, she doesn't age poorly. Her only real downsides are her ult (which you just have to understand isn't a win condition but rather something to save for the right moment), and she's not great at attacking flyers. Also I think she's the most capable back line hero when it comes to dealing with divers.
Edit: I had an idea for a new SG ult if they ever wanted to rework it. Early in the Ryan North run, Doreen got a bunch of squirrels to cover her to conceal her identity, it would be sick if her ult just covered her in squirrels, maybe making her a temporary tank with the option to send the suit off on its own similar to her current ult.
I can see Namor but she is no where as good as punisher. Punshier’s damage can get to hella levels and his ult is crazy good.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 That one is mostly just because I have killed far more Punishers as Squirrel Girl than them me. He's just one of those heroes that's not hard to deal with as SG so he doesn't feel that threatening
@@Joenah5 sure but at higher level of plays things change. The question is also how is your team play with squirrel? can you burst when needed?
Again though I get saying namor being the same level as her.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 I'm not saying Namor is the same level as her, I think she's better. Even when I see a good Namor it isn't hard to outdo them
@@Joenah5 in casual but in competitive it changes. she seems good but against a competent team she isn't good. namor has more direct damage and team comp than her.
You could trade the two and i wouldn't care but they are both low tier. Both d or lower so trade the 2 it doesn't really matter.
When I quit Snap, I missed your content. So glad i have an excuse to subscribe to you again!
First tier list ive seen where someone hasnt put jeff, luna and black panther in top teir lol
great vid. praying storm and magik get buffs. i’m ride or die with them 😂
I think Iron Man is C tier. You're jsut kinda judging him from what lowskill people do (fly 5000 miles away and plink until he gets ult) but he can flank and fly behind the enemy team and get healers down really quickly. He's still squishy and doesn't have a great escape since his dash has such a windup, and hitscan heroes still destroy him, but D feels a bit too harsh.
I'd put him higher, I am only playing him and I am at Gold 1 solo and rising. His ability to melt tanks with a charged chest beam is insane as long as you can track aim, which I learnt from 15 years of quake 3 arena lightning gun usage lol. And like you said, flanking in and taking out both healers in seconds is insane. People have way underrated him, just because bad players sit 10miles up in the sky and get 1 shot by hela. That just isn't how you play him, you gotta be smart and he even plays great on the ground or just a few feet up, dipping up and down above and below your tanks shields and back etc.
I think its because its pretty easy to counter him by matchup and certain maps dont favor flyers with tight corridors and cramped spaces.
Yea I main iron man and I'm really good with him. I won every game with him in competitive. He is great if you don't have trash teammates. Trust me he is one of the needed dualists in the team to win
I drop 35-55 frag matches consistently with Hela, Star and Moon Knight annnnnd surprisingly…Venom is up there. Venom is so good for a tank, it just isn’t as viable as Groot or Magneto. Venom is a solo survival tank which I feel isn’t great for team besides holding point and catching aggro from people who aren’t as focused on team firing.
10:04 don’t swallow your teammates ok yeah so this guy I’m sorry this list is so bad it hurts, Jeff heals his teammates by eating them and your timer is not reduced by spitting them out
I just started Marvek Rivals today and picked up Bucky, and my God is he fun. I think A tier is very solid for him because if he wants you in his corner, you aren't getting out of it and you're in for a world of hurt, but he really doesn't have a lot of mobility outside of his ult. But my God, the recharging ult every time you kill with it brings him from a high be to the King of A tier. Jumping around and Doomfist slamming people will never get old
Magik in C feels like a Crime that would put one directly on death row without trial. Her only weakness is stunning. But once You’re in someones face you might as well be currently attending their funeral. Even with the nerfs I think shes still in the middle of A (high B if you really wanna put her low).
She is the best Duelist, should be above or the the same as BP
i always get shredded by scarlet witch or cloak and dagger as magik 😔
Magik is absolutely not the best duelist, literally any of the duelists with a gun outperform her especially at a high level.
@@heist2556 Didn’t say she was the best but C is a shockingly low Placement.
What makes a good team lineup....2 heals, tank, 2 DPS?? Would love a video about team management and working together.
The reason Scarlet is low on your list is because people don’t utilize her ranged bomb enough
Shes the biggest threat if the player has a brain
Scarlet witch is a killer. You don’t have to aim and when you do it takes like a quarter health bar off tanks
@ anyone below 300hp gets vaporized if they are to close to her im general. As long as that witch is smart.
@@ronnieenriquez3890only for low ranks. Once you get out of Bronze, she starts slowly falling off.
@@houstonturner5683 i dont use her personally so sounds like a skill issue for the players that main her lol
Hulk is a great control and disrupter tank. You gotta use him to jump back line healers and use his stun to stop other tanks from pushing. Shield gives charge to his ultimate so if you use if while jumping in you'll get a good boost. The ultimate is just Winston's Primal Rage but people sleep on the instant recharge power clap and stun ability. The grab is somewhat useful as a lock down on healers too. I feel like most people just aren't using the jump enough. Being Bruce isn't too bad either. Just focus the placed abilities for quick charge back into hulk. The grenade can get you out of some bad situations too. Also if you super jump while dying you can launch yourself back into your healers before the invisibility from the transformation back into Bruce ends.
Today just got a lot better ☺️
Its not a tier list without some D's and F's. Great ranking brother. Love to hear your experience with these characters
I keep thinking Iron Fist is Shang Chi 😭
Should’ve keep the blond hair
Completely agree with Hawkeye. I main him and his DPS is crazy. Also with Cloak & Dagger. Love to play them cuz you can dish out damage w cloak, and if you’re low on health, switch to Dagger, use the globe, switch back and boom. Instant turret 😂