I saw a story of a teacher who was suspended for a Halloween costume for which she darkened her face. The thing is, her costume was the Scooby-Doo Mystery Mobile with a moon hanging above her head. So I get while that’s not good judgement and it earned a conversation, potentially losing her job seems overboard. She very clearly wasn’t referencing Black people in any way. (I know that’s not totally related to the subject here, but you made me think of it because of how easily teachers can get fired.
That's correct. Administrators and counselors say they are "impartial" but the reality is they will take the student's word as equal or better than the teacher's. They don't want an angry parent going to the superintendent or school board or God forbid, hire a litigation attorney, so they tell the teacher too bad, just deal with it. I taught for 37 years in public school. I didn’t roll over for anyone. Fortunately, I had A Teacher's UNION backing me up, which allowed me to speak up for myself and maintain reasonable standards. That's right, a union is the only thing permitting teachers to stand up for what's right. Take that all you anti-union ignoramuses.
@@macgp44no teachers union is what allows fat disgruntled middle aged women who drink a bottle or 3 of wine every night to stay in their jobs being absolutely miserable and crappy to the students back so its double the reason our education system has been circling the toilet bowl for decade + now..... not to mention the teachers union was reason kids couldnt go back to school well after we knew Covid wasnt what thsy said it was in beginning and now these kids are gna be stupid and behind for rest of their "schooling" years
I was a history teacher for almost 30 years here in the Netherlands. I experienced the change with the parents. In the beginning parents respected the authority of the teacher. The last 10 years of teaching the parents became more and more crazy. They came to school complaining about the teachers. Teachers who were not nice to their little princes and princesses who were always right, according to the parents. When you told a child no, parents came to school and demanded an apology from the teacher. I did not do this, so on the end I stopped teaching
It's the same here in the UK. Parents defend the horrendous behaviour of their children because their child has the "Right". But no one ever teaches them about their responsibilities.
I was asked to look out for a student, and to notify parents if there were any sub par work output. 2 weeks later, they complain that im picking on their kid? All I did was email the parents pictures of assignments that were lackluster. I did extra diligence for these parents, and it somehow makes it worse? I would have been better off doing nothing....
My dear wife taught school for 25 years. The past 14 have been in in the public schools. The past 7 of those was in a district in a "good" area. The behavior, attitudes, defiance, lack of support from parents/administration/district drove her out. She retired 3 years early from the profession she loved and was excellent at. She is now substitute teaching at a local private school. The pay is reduced, but the atmosphere is amazing. Small classes. Motivated kids. Well behaved kids. Parental support. No phones........etc. She's a new woman. It's sad.
My grandpa drove a school bus in the 1960s, had someone causing trouble and he kicked the kid out and made him walk home. The parent drove the kid to apologize to my grandpa that evening.
Having your child apologize to an adult they've disrespected is one of the greatest lessons you can ever teach them. Modeling the exchange of respectful apology and forgiveness is the number one thing lacking in today's children. They must be shown. And being in a broken home utterly disintegrates the entire concept for them. Conflict resolution is a lost art... more than an art... it's like we've lost our soul.
Any and ultimately those rebellious Punk asses end up as Sovereign citizens who love only themselves and their imaginary freedom to do as they please. I guess that's what tasers are for.
@@BellezaLatina511 you talk as if respect is a bad thing. It means listening earnestly to your parents and teachers, following the rules, not making excuses for misbehavior and expressing gratitude to them once in a while.
Bill is 100% Correct. Students used to FEAR Teachers because they would tell parents and you would get in Trouble at home. Now the Teacher is cussed out by the Parent because the Childs Behavior is Never the Problem and the Parents feel their Childs Bad Grades are the result of Poor Teaching rather than their Child didnt do any homework.
On the plus side, we're part of the LAST intelligent generation of people in this country. There is nobody coming up behind us that can do what we can do, so you have nothing to fear in terms of job loss or anything else. We're the last generation of people capable of doing grown-up work. Gen Z is going to be cleaning toilets and sweeping floors for life.
I never feared my teacher...you don't really learn much that way. A environment of intellectual curiosity and mutual respect for learning and teaching is the best environment.
@@Bradgilliswhammymanif you're parents are beating each other. Or mum is passed out on the couch. How do you think children will learn respect? If you're teacher says do your homework but parents are to busy to go to the shopping mall where does the child learns to respect the teacher. A teachers doesn't have to learn the kids yo have respect. They have to teach mathematics. Respect you learn at home. And to many homes are broken.
There's still the lingering problem that some parents who didn't learn anything in school are passing on their vapidity to their little darlings and see teachers as simply glorified baby sitters. You know which kids do better? The ones whose parents show and take interest in their kids' education.
Progressives are responsible for this. They killed parental rights and are raising these kids this way. Parents are no longer allowed to have any meaningful input.
Blame your predecessors. Most of my teachers hated children, did a piss-poor job, and were obnoxiously certain that they would never face any repercussions. The kids of that generation grew up, had kids of their own, and have zero sympathy for educators. Most of school is just a pointless daycare for people nearing adulthood that does not provide any useful knowledge.
The problem is parents are t parents anymore. They are their kids “friends”. My wife teaches high school English and her school banned cell phones during the day. She said it has made an amazingly positive difference in the kids. They are more attentive, more interactive and actually learning to engage socially with other students and the faculty.
My state implemented a no phones in classroom policy across all its public school. Hasn’t fixed the issue completely but it’s helped give more support to teachers
As of now we need a solution not support. I think one solution is if a kid disturbed a class with a phone you are suspended and when the parent see that they need figure out what to do with their kids at home cause they are suspended for a phone they are going to start been tougher parents because it’s messing with their regular life
True, but you do realize the regulations that give the students all the power. I work at schools where the dangerous kids attend after getting kicked out of regular school. The kids at this point shape up because the next step is incarceration. Consequences improve outcomes.
I work at a school and the root of it does feel like the parents. Zero discipline. Getting a call home from your teacher uses to mean that the student is then disciplined at home. Now it often means that the teacher is berated by the parent. It’s merely anecdotal but yeah I’ve seen teachers get in trouble for disciplining their classes after VERY poor behavior.
Well, there are several factors here. Yes, parents are a problem and specifically my fellow Gen-X'ers with their, "My kid is my friend" parenting. But, at the same time if you actually do parent your children they can go to school and tell the administrators they aren't happy with their mom or dad and then mom and dad have to spend 2 months with Social Services coming to the house 3 times a week to do interviews. It's not all cut and dry. The bottom line is we've now raised 2 generations of kids to basically respect absolutely nothing and demand that they get everything handed to them in life for nothing. It's really sad, and the biggest sadness is that we graduate well over half of them with little or no intelligence whatsoever. I'd be shocked if 15% of today's High School graduates could have graduated with me in the 80's. Don't even get me started on college.
My dad taught high school English. If I had even threatened a teacher, there would be no need for the school to discipline me because my dad would have already beaten me into a coma.
Thank you, Bill! Most people blame teachers unions, but honestly, we have our hands tied. Some students have catcalled and have said sexual comments about me and other females in the school. Consequences? “A talk.” They don’t want suspensions or detention because they’re racist. So who in their right mind would want to do this job? I am contemplating switching careers. I just love working with kids and educating them, when they let me!
Teachers unions absolutely are the problem. You wanna know why kids have no discipline anymore? Because of woke liberal ideology that the school system has pushed for decades often at the behest of teachers unions. Teaching kids that gender is made up and math is racist and that oppression is everywhere tends to create a bunch of worthless, sensitive, authority ignoring nitwits.
Thanks Bill. I am a veteran teacher. Thirty-one years in the education profession. In a sense, I was fortunate to teach in my hometown, a small town in south central Oklahoma. During those years I had to squelch the two most violent incidents to take place in my hometown school. I won't go through all of the details but the first took place while I was doing my student teaching. A student in the far left hand corner of the the classroom went berserk and started throwing desk at another student diagonally across the classroom from him. In the other incident a boy whipped out a knife and stabbed another boy standing in front of me. Fortunately, I was able to get control of both situations without anyone getting seriously injured. You ask, "How did someone get stabbed without getting seriously injured?" Without going into all of the details, the knife hit one of the boy's ribs and did not puncture his lung. Again, without going through all of the details, the "boy" who did the stabbing spent two weeks in jail before going before a judge and he was sentenced to school with the judge wagging his finger at him telling him, "No knifes. No guns." Both were interesting incidents but both were simply bullshit on the part of the authorities. Thanks again for calling attention to violence in our schools.
And I'll add my two cents from years ago, when I took a part-time restaurant job so I could afford an entry level newspaper job for $120 a week. One of the waitresses had six kids and the oldest girl told me excitedly that she was going to National Louis University in Chicago upon graduation from the local high school, which I had also attended years earlier. I thought to myself that the girl would be weeded out in the first few weeks, because her English was atrocious. This was also a commentary on how bad our La Grange, Il. high school, once one of the best in the country, had become. When I went we learned the language, spelling, grammar and sentence construction and 97 percent of us went on to the best universities in the country and most graduated. This bright girl then attended Louis and graduated and seeing her again at a family picnic, she told me about her first student teaching job. And her grammar was still atrocious. The school, like many others across the country, simply sold her a degree. Evidently, mastering the curriculum was optional.
No it reflects the fallout from massive inequality and a society that encourages and rewards it. Also doesn't help that we don't have nationalized healthcare including comprehensive mental health treatment.
I teach at a university and even there it's a shadow of what it was. The students barely care anymore, expecting to pass no matter what. And the terrible thing is, the management wants this ....they want it to be a degree mill. Money in, degrees out. Lecturers are dragged over the hot coals and punished if they dare fail too many bad students. And there are a lot. It's utterly unsustainable.
I went to military school, and none of this shiite went on at all. They simply won't allow negatively charged individuals, to remain in the school. They were escorted off the campus. Some of those kids came from other countries, so they had a heck of a trip home. Another excellent show, Bill. Thanks!
I went back to college in my 50s, and had many classmates straight out of high school. I could not believe, how uneducated they were...and these were kids who WANTED to learn.
It's so very sad what education is now. I'm in my 50's. My best friend passed away months ago, and her adult kids couldn't read the card. Yeah, so very sad!
I started trying for my Psych degree about 10 years ago in my early 30's... and I had a similar experience. I can only imagine how much worse it is now.
Did they want to learn though? If you went to a very selective college, probably. If it was a less selective school, it's likely that at least half of your classmates only went to college because it was what was expected of them after high school. I attended both types of schools so I know the difference
@@6Lyra Been to six different colleges over the last 35 years (State Universities and Tech colleges), this last time had the least educated students straight out of high school.
As a teacher, I've embraced an old school approach: less multimedia, more writing and it has worked wonders. Parents please! don't let your children behind screens all day. Kids now can't focus, can't retain info and are super lazy.
My best friend teaches and has taken a similar approach. Old school projector with clear plastic dry erase slides, written work only, no laptops in the classroom, and cell phones go in a lockbox. Her fourth grade class is the best performing in that school and she’s been named teacher of the year twice in a row. Very sad to see the lack of basic skills in this generation. I’m a millennial-and people always said we were bad-but at least we grew up in the time before smart phones and social media, we can hold conversations, played with toys as children, and knew how to write with a pen and pencil. My friend had students this September who are so used to typing everything, she had to help show them how to use a pencil.
I watched 2 of my best friend, teachers, get physically assaulted by a 2nd grader and 10th grader. And then they laughed about it. As did the parents. Gave up teaching because I will absolutely not allow that shit in my classroom. I can lead with kindness but still be firm. And that’s something the schools think is a big problem.
This is unbelievable. I went to school from 1958 to 1971 in Los Angeles public schools. Never once in all those years did I see anything close to what were in these videos. I grew up in White Middle Class Suburbia in the late 50’s through the early 70’s. I had to work hard to get good enough grades to go to a University of California school. I am so glad there was no social media back then. Life was so innocent compared to what is going on today.
Don't blame social media for capturing the bad behavior of students - it's the way kids are raised today - they are the most coddled and spoiled kids ever - the parents are not allowed to give a whipping or they can go to jail and the schools are not allowed to suspend them for being bad
I graduated high school in 2009. I went to a Jesuit high school which is basically a catholic high school. I was an atheist then, and my counselors who I told that to supported me. Just to say it wasn't a place of pure indoctrination into the faith. When I went to college I was shocked at how far behind my peers were in writing and science courses. It was like being put into classes with middle schoolers.
Same experience all my life I was in private school or home school with private tutoring & my mother teaching and when I went to college it was shocking how far behind everyone was.
@@PuzzlingChap I'm trying to think how many times I've seen people abuse the directive "help yourself". They think to themselves, "Oh? Help myself? I was only going to take one, but, hearing that, I guess I'll take several more." I don't know how many times, but it's quite a few. And I don't know if any of them are theists or atheists.
I went to Catholic Grammar school, in our town, every student who came from St Thomas was put into Advanced Placement classes in the public high school.
24-year LAUSD High School teacher here: The blame is on ADMINISTRATION. The students can do no wrong; ZERO consequences. It's always the teacher's fault.
I agree with that. School boards and administrations, especially, have been coached by attorneys to avoid lawsuits at all costs. Good basic principle, but not considering the results we've heard from Bill's excellent New Rules.
With all respect, isn't it largely the legal structure under which the administration works? The administration didn't dream up "least restrictive environment" or "mainstreaming" or categorize behavior problems as a "disability" that must be "accommodated." The administration didn't dream up the legal environment in which the school can be sued for damn near anything.
There’s plenty of blame to go around. It’s starts with the parents. Admin is scared of losing their jobs to a law suit if it backs up the teacher. We treat education like it’s a business and they’re customers we don’t want to upset (lest they go elsewhere and out BSA goes down) so everyone placates the kids and they have the power. I’m all for kids owning their power, but their prefrontal cortex is still developing and that’s why adults are in charge. It’s the BIGGER picture that kids can’t see. But if parents don’t instill respect- it all goes to shit.
As someone who works with kids, Bill hits this one out of the park. Of course, there are exceptions (and I do continue to see a lot of good in kids), but these issues are real.
I can tell you as a Catholic School alum who sent his kids to public schools there's no comparison. The teachers in Catholic schools put up with zero nonsense. For what it costs to send their kids to those schools they get a call from the principal those kids are in big trouble when they get home. The teachers are usually better as many are more knowlegable in the subject they teach than public school teachers. And the Catholic High School I attended was not hyper conservative. I had a history teacher who taught us about some Native American tribes had openly gay communities, and in lit. class we read books like 1984, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird and Grapes of Wrath, all favorites of the Book Burning Clubs. A passing grade was 70%. 69 was an "F", so even our letter grades were higher than public school standards.
I’d rather send my kid to public school than send them to catholic school that forces prayers on you and teaches creationist hilarious bullshit and forces right wing conservatives racist views down your throats….. Sorry but you can’t ever argue to ever send kids to a Christian school
I taught Catholic school for two years after getting out of the navy back in the early 1980s and my seventh graders especially weren’t really the best behaved so I would holler at them frequently not wanting to be a pushover. But the head nun could really scream at them and would sometimes even ring a bell in their ears while really letting them have it verbally. Then also she could really give the parents an extremely hard time occasionally which to me was hysterical. But then she finally went nuts when I told my class they could bring their sleds in for the last snowfall of the season. When she saw those sleds lined up outside of my class she really let me have it in front of the kids. So I walked off the job and got a job teaching in the Cleveland ghetto through the Cleveland public schools. The ghetto kids being older were better behaved in class but far worse in the hallways when changing classes. They finally had to set up a mobile police command center in a trailer out in the parking lot just to ride herd on all the wild kids there. Then they shut down the building and converted it into a storage facility.
What "book burning clubs"? Conservatives don't ban those books. The ones that FL and other states removed from elementary schools were grossly inappropriate for young (K-3 grade) children. Overtly, graphically sexually oriented. Let kids be kids!
@@lesliemooney9305 A. I looked at your page and to no surprise, you're a troll, so, B, I'll play along with your nonsense by saying name the books deemed inappropriate, C. cite the passages in the books that are inappropriate for those age groups and how you know as fact they were in child sections of libraries for kids K-3 rather then teenage or adult. D. name the many states and school districts which banned them since you said "other states", finally E. of these school districts which banned books, how many of these school boards are controlled by Trump supporting nut jobs? And last but not least, in 2021 two members of the Spotsylvania Va school board advocated burning books. In 2022, conservative ministers outside Nashville burned Harry Potter books for being "Wtichcraft". Do you want me to go on? It is also hyperbole to mention book burning clubs but I don't assume you know what hyperbole is. Just know that this is fascism and it's on full display and In don't know if it was your idea to respond or if you are paid to do it but just know I'm more than happy to expose you and your ideology.
None of this is surprising. We only have to look at how adults behave in this country. You don’t have to look harder than at a school board meeting, a political rallye or speech, a House of representative session… We see it everyday. Kids do, too.
kids saw their parents act the saem way at their sportsball games, I was in three leagues 2 of them were run into the ground by parents who acted like the MOdern GOP, all trying to shank each other because they wanted their kid to be the SUPER STAR, eventhough they were never going to be. Of course 65% of these kids burn out at 12.
I teach at a community college and am in my 20th year here. I also have seen the shift in students. They don't want to accept responsibility for their actions at all. They look for someone to blame, usually the teacher. Thankfully, we don't have to deal with the violence that elementary and high school teachers deal with. However, the lack of educational training these students receive in grades K-12 is astonishing. We have to offer remedial or developmental classes because these high school graduates (some of them with GPAs above 3.0) cannot read, write, or do math at grade level. We are expected to take a student and bring them from elementary to college reading level in one semester (15 weeks). How in the world can be do something in 15 weeks that the schools have not been able to accomplish in 13 years?? And with much less funding, no less.
Diploma mills like current high schools and colleges need to fail kids who cant do the work at level. Kids dont have a right to a diploma, and if they dont earn the grade teachers need to stop giving the grade. I understand that nowadays teachers are held responsible for lazy failing entitled brats not passing, that also needs to change. These schools, including yours, have lowered their standards in the name of profit. I've been in the room when a JC student reads a paper in an English class and this student shouldn't have passed 5th grade English, but this JC gave him a B on a paper undeserving of a D in elementary school. Diploma mills, nobody is learning anything because you have demonstrated they dont have to in order to pass, they just have to sign a check. Failing work should equate to failing grades. Period.
It's funny..I was told that I was wrong for being strict on my kids. Not getting them phones till they reached 10th grade. But looking back, now that all three of them have master degrees I don't think I was wrong for how they grew up.
@morbidmanmusic Thank you, but perfection is not possible in humans. I just taught my kids that there are always consequences to there actions and if someone starts something we finish it. Enjoy life.
All this crapola starts and ends in the home...PERIOD! Shitty parenting is at the root of most of this abominable behavior. Your parents either instill in you a sense of respect for yourself and others or they don't. Throwing teachers under the bus when they do discipline your brat does nothing but undermine the entire education system.
It's not that simple. Parents can lay the law down at home, but what happens when their kids come home with UNDESERVED straight A's. That institutionalized corruption undermines the parents' roles completely. American kids are morons compared to kids from China, India and much of Europe. (I don't know as much about European schools, anymore).
In the 90’s I had so many disobedience referrals that I spent half my time at school in detention, ISS, on actual suspension, and almost wound up in a school exclusively for juvenile delinquency. Because I was punk ass bad kid. If I had hit a teacher though, I would have been instantly expelled and sent to Juvie Jail for at least 6 months.
Long time fan and high school English teacher from Scranton. You nailed it precisely with your take on public schools. That’s the problem! I started teaching in 1995 and have lived through everything from the strict parents had our backs part through to today . Thanks for your attention! I’m not sure anything will change but thanks for the spotlight on the problem!👏🏼💪🏼💃🏽
Graduated in 2013-14, hated high school acted out in my freshman & the first half of my sophomore got sent to the principal and counselors office multiple times and was punished by parents by having electronics taken away (including my phone). I graduated from an alternative school where they took our phones at the start of the day and didn't talk to anyone other than teachers until the last day of school the year I arrived (students were surprised I could talk) because I learned to STFU and do my work (although we did have access to mp3s and radio sites at school as long as we got our work done). Teachers have been protesting across the country for better pay and working conditions (which they deserve) they should be demanding that something should be done to the students for being with their devices. The young people who are being a distraction and committing crimes should know that those actions have consequences. Being young and dumb is one thing (we all know that) but it seems like it has reached a new level of: WTF IS GOING ON?
Thank you from a veteran teacher. Get the phones out! Teachers too. Phone addiction among our children is a national emergency that needs to be fixed now.
I put my oldest in virtual school and think everyone should because my kid isn't distracted by all the BS that is in public high schools. Last time I went to a high school there were kids shooting tiktok videos, kids walking out the front door to leave, and another kid cursing out the counselors in the front office. It was like a prison. I think everyone knows the root cause but can't say anything. My guess is it won't get better in my lifetime.
I could never imagine anyone doing this when I was going to school in the '90s and early 2000s. I remember I had a teacher who would get upset if some students weren't listening and would yell at the class to shut up. It was very unusual back then to hear a teacher tell students to shut up so that made everyone quiet and pay attention to the teacher very quickly. My mom works in a school and she sometimes says some of the students she deals with makes her feel like she's teaching prison 101.
My high school (I was class of 06) was just like this. 3000+ kids crammed into a small set of buildings smaller than a half city block. Multiple fights every day, stabbings. It was more about surviving than it was learning. I used to get ridiculed for being able to read above a 3rd grade level, when we would have to take turns reading from our text books aloud. It's clearly getting worse, but it was already like this in places back then. I can remember when I was in middle school, our district scored so badly on the state standard tests that the government pulled our funding. Learning from 30 year old text books in high school. Cutting edge education...
I started school in this country in 2000 in middle school and this was the problem already. I was amazed because where I came from we were still respecting and be scared of teacher and then come to this first world country and see a bunch of wild kids treating teachers like shit and teacher looking depressed and crazy it was sad and mind blowing.
Really? You couldn't imagine this in the 90s and 2000s? You must be sheltered. Don't you remember that it was such a problem in inner city schools that it became a huge Hollywood trope. Remember the movie The Substitute (became a series) or Dangerous Minds (out Coolio on the map with his hit single Gangsta's Paradise) or the parody of these High School High? Just to name a few... There were major problems with gangs and gun violence and disrespecting teachers in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, it's not new.
My sister quit teaching after 18 years. Last year at Christmas break she told them she wont be coming back. Its gotten so bad. She said she was told not to correct certain students, it might set them off.
That’s just so corrupt. All of the good teachers are quitting because of how things are being run now and all we’re left with are temps and weirdos and a few brave souls who actually care about children and are trying to make things work in an impossible environment. People are quitting teaching at lightning speed. It’s wild how fast things eroded.
Before I retired I was a Trainer in the States Fire Service Academy - I was constantly amazed by the number of trained teachers who entered the Fire Service in spite of their teaching qualifications. When I asked ( many of them) why they had switched professions, the basic answer I got was that it was far more desirable to face down a raging fire than face down a class room full of adolescent High School students. I received a taste of this a few years later when I returned to active front line firefighting and had attended a school fire. After the fire was out I was walking across the grounds talking to the school Principal when he accidently bumped into a 15 year old student who ran by us. Before the Principal could react, the young student said " watch where you are f***ing going you old c**t. The Principal apologised !! I could never be a teacher....I'm sure I would be up on a murder charge on my first day.
I was a teacher for 5 years, and left. It was horrible. I absolutely love my new career and am so happy I left education. I may consider going back if I could work at Bill's school.
So sad! Teachers deserve better! More respect for them. Let’s start giving a raise for all and protect teachers against violence in their workplace. Period!
Those who pay attention to the real problems of society, have been discussing this issue for years. But, I am glad you have, informed others. Unfortunately you have to describe the problem in Joke form, for them to see the problem.
I happily worked in a federal academic program for 36 years that forbade cell phones when they came on the scene, until the pandemic hit and the kids were allowed to use their cell phones "for research", a toxic combination, so I retired.
I can’t imagine what public school is like now. So glad I’m the age I am. Certain things simply weren’t tolerated. A student wouldn’t dream of hitting a teacher. That was unheard of. Nowadays there’s a total disregard of authority. When I was in school if you were acting a fool (and your parents found out) you got dealt with when you got home.
I minored in education during undergraduate and for a while entertained the idea of becoming a teacher. Didn’t end up going that route, so can’t really comment on the current state of the profession. One thing I do know, however, is that learning manners and good behavior starts at home. Obviously, there is special etiquette that kids need to learn in a classroom, but it’s not the teachers job to instill basic respect and civility. While that task may fall to the teachers in some cases, it really shouldn't. Teachers may succeed where parents have failed, but the real question is why the parents failed in the first place.
I live in Newport News, VA, where the six-year-old shot his teacher with his mother’s gun. Sure, the school officials were delinquent in not searching the backpack of the known trouble-maker. Sure, they were idiots for not using the metal detectors because “they didn’t want the kids to feel like they were entering prison.” (Ever try to get to the gate in an airport nowadays? Ever try to enter a museum?) The fault lies with the parent - a mother on drugs who just didn’t care. I think that a prospective parent should be forced to go through classes and get a license - or else they lose their kid to adoption.
@@birbluv9595 Adoption by whom? You think taxpayers are going to pay much heavier property tax bills to support the progeny of rotten parents? Not in most states they won't.
You’re absolutely right Bill. Far too many people have kids as a prize as opposed to dedicating themselves to and raising good human beings the world can benefit from. Discipline? Forget about it. My kids know better, I don’t play that sh* but I’m up against my kids dealing with those who know no better along with having little to no decency.
I’m 22 years old, and my high school did allow the use of phones, did introductions with pronouns and so on but there was no beating the shit out of teachers. I can’t speak for everyone else’s parents back in high school, but my parents wouldn’t have killed me if I had did something like that, they would have flayed me alive.
I'm only 7 years older than you and it's still baffling to hear that they even let you use phones and that pronouns were/are a thing. In high school if we got caught with our phone we got detention immediately and had to turn our phone in to the teacher until the end of the day.
@@lolaloliepop No, how old are you NOW...really? Are you in grade school, high school, or two years away from cashing in your 401(k)? I'm guessing near 35, because you can't construct a comprehensive sentence.
I taught at a junior high where there was a strict ''no phones'' rule. So what the students did was keep the phone just on the edge inside their desk, and could slide it out far enough to read it. If I came near, they simply slid it back. I could tell they were reading them when they looked down at their laps. There was absolutely no way to catch them. I really began to hate them for their brazen disobedience.
Teachers are afraid of their Administration - Administrations fear retrobution from their Districts - Districts live in complete angst of their School Boards - the School Boards kowtow to the parents - and parents have little to no control over their children. There is no discipline - no accountability - no consequences - 28 year teacher retiring this year.
They should give teachers the right to who they want to teach. If you have a student that is unruly and is not listening, goodbye. Those students are taking time away from the ones who actually want to learn and realize that in the coming economy knowledge and the ability to use either computers or tools will be the best way to secure work in the future economy.
But it won't solve the problem that you cannot re-educated millions of American teachers who are not themselves, that well educated. We have decades of rot every since universities, especially, began operating as profit centers. In Illinois, the University of Illinois once had the third largest corporate budget in the state. I don't know what it is now.
I could never imagine this happening when I was in school - because it never did! My parents were on my side absolutely! But they were also very much on the side of the teachers. So I certainly didn’t get away with anything. Then again, I would never thought, and I mean never, to take a swing at a teacher. Smh. I think it’s insane and goes to show that some kids think it’s ok for them to lose their shit and put a teacher in the ICU. Well, it’s not ok. Never has been. The only way I would ever see it as ok, is if a teacher grabs and punches the student first or tries to molest the kid. And that my parents would agree with me on that.
I think the most trouble I ever got in during my time in school was getting caught not doing hw, and my parents were on the teacher’s side. They would not have permitted physical assault of a teacher. And my parents were very much on my side- they sued the school district in my hometown when I was little so I could get the accommodations and help I needed for my autism.
I don't know how old you are but this is nothing new. The difference is we now have video of it happening. Just like all other crime. It's actually down in the big scheme of things. The student who hit the teacher was in the right over the cell phone by the way. You can't just take someone's phone.
I got a teaching license over 16 years ago, but I never actually became a teacher because I hated being a substitute teacher so much that I decided that I would rather work in fast food, retail, and amazon than be a teacher! And you know why I hated being a substitute? THE KIDS! I could NOT get them to shut the fuck up 90% of the time. Fortunately, I was never attacked or anything serious, but I stopped subbing over a decade ago.
I'm 73 and I don't know why you're so effin' surprised. You're probably one of those people who think that someone my age, who was a professional computer programmer since 1983, doesn't know how to use a smart phone or a Roku. Dayum, sunshine, I can make this freaking phone dance an Irish jig if I want to. @@nickbarcheck1019
@@nickbarcheck1019 I'm 73 and I don't know why you're so effin' surprised. You're probably one of those people who think that someone my age, who was a professional computer programmer since 1983, doesn't know how to use a smart phone or a Roku. Dayum, sunshine, I can make this freaking phone dance an Irish jig if I want to.
Unbelievable behavior, and if a teacher tries to defend himself he somehow is to blame. Unreal.
Impeach mayorkis
Memories, a reminder of the time when the telephone hung on the wall...? We had a life at that time and the good intention to “Live” Thank you!!!😮
It used to be if a student hit the teacher 25 -30 years ago they were probably expelled.
I saw a story of a teacher who was suspended for a Halloween costume for which she darkened her face. The thing is, her costume was the Scooby-Doo Mystery Mobile with a moon hanging above her head. So I get while that’s not good judgement and it earned a conversation, potentially losing her job seems overboard. She very clearly wasn’t referencing Black people in any way. (I know that’s not totally related to the subject here, but you made me think of it because of how easily teachers can get fired.
@davidlandrigan7067
Still better than letting your kids do whatever they want with no consequences.
My sister is a high school teacher and said the biggest problem is, they get no support from the folks above, they're terrified.
That's correct. Administrators and counselors say they are "impartial" but the reality is they will take the student's word as equal or better than the teacher's. They don't want an angry parent going to the superintendent or school board or God forbid, hire a litigation attorney, so they tell the teacher too bad, just deal with it. I taught for 37 years in public school. I didn’t roll over for anyone. Fortunately, I had A Teacher's UNION backing me up, which allowed me to speak up for myself and maintain reasonable standards. That's right, a union is the only thing permitting teachers to stand up for what's right. Take that all you anti-union ignoramuses.
@@macgp44no teachers union is what allows fat disgruntled middle aged women who drink a bottle or 3 of wine every night to stay in their jobs being absolutely miserable and crappy to the students back so its double the reason our education system has been circling the toilet bowl for decade + now.....
not to mention the teachers union was reason kids couldnt go back to school well after we knew Covid wasnt what thsy said it was in beginning and now these kids are gna be stupid and behind for rest of their "schooling" years
Well, Mac, I am a counselor & the teachers are my guide to their students. My teachers come first...bc I am a teacher too.
"the teachers are my guide to their students". What exactly are you trying to say with that phrase? Please be specific. @@ddduhawk3111
And now Mom's For "Liberty" is telling them what they have to teach for reading material.
I was a history teacher for almost 30 years here in the Netherlands. I experienced the change with the parents. In the beginning parents respected the authority of the teacher. The last 10 years of teaching the parents became more and more crazy. They came to school complaining about the teachers. Teachers who were not nice to their little princes and princesses who were always right, according to the parents. When you told a child no, parents came to school and demanded an apology from the teacher. I did not do this, so on the end I stopped teaching
Me too… only took 7 years for me to quit… should have quit after 1.
@@Buttercup697 I quit after 8. I wanted to quit after 1.
Me after 2 lol
It's the same here in the UK. Parents defend the horrendous behaviour of their children because their child has the "Right". But no one ever teaches them about their responsibilities.
I was asked to look out for a student, and to notify parents if there were any sub par work output. 2 weeks later, they complain that im picking on their kid? All I did was email the parents pictures of assignments that were lackluster. I did extra diligence for these parents, and it somehow makes it worse? I would have been better off doing nothing....
My dear wife taught school for 25 years. The past 14 have been in in the public schools. The past 7 of those was in a district in a "good" area. The behavior, attitudes, defiance, lack of support from parents/administration/district drove her out. She retired 3 years early from the profession she loved and was excellent at. She is now substitute teaching at a local private school. The pay is reduced, but the atmosphere is amazing. Small classes. Motivated kids. Well behaved kids. Parental support. No phones........etc. She's a new woman. It's sad.
My grandpa drove a school bus in the 1960s, had someone causing trouble and he kicked the kid out and made him walk home. The parent drove the kid to apologize to my grandpa that evening.
Having your child apologize to an adult they've disrespected is one of the greatest lessons you can ever teach them. Modeling the exchange of respectful apology and forgiveness is the number one thing lacking in today's children. They must be shown. And being in a broken home utterly disintegrates the entire concept for them.
Conflict resolution is a lost art... more than an art... it's like we've lost our soul.
Yep, Mr Menard glared at us like Jabba and would order you off the bus in a heartbeat if you caused any trouble.
The Godless don't do that, though.
This has more to do with how they are raised. It starts at the home, You raise rotten kids that don't respect authority and this is what You get.
Exactly. It all starts at home.
Any and ultimately those rebellious Punk asses end up as Sovereign citizens who love only themselves and their imaginary freedom to do as they please. I guess that's what tasers are for.
@@BellezaLatina511 you talk as if respect is a bad thing. It means listening earnestly to your parents and teachers, following the rules, not making excuses for misbehavior and expressing gratitude to them once in a while.
Bill is 100% Correct. Students used to FEAR Teachers because they would tell parents and you would get in Trouble at home. Now the Teacher is cussed out by the Parent because the Childs Behavior is Never the Problem and the Parents feel their Childs Bad Grades are the result of Poor Teaching rather than their Child didnt do any homework.
On the plus side, we're part of the LAST intelligent generation of people in this country. There is nobody coming up behind us that can do what we can do, so you have nothing to fear in terms of job loss or anything else. We're the last generation of people capable of doing grown-up work. Gen Z is going to be cleaning toilets and sweeping floors for life.
I never feared my teacher...you don't really learn much that way. A environment of intellectual curiosity and mutual respect for learning and teaching is the best environment.
Not 100%, cause he seriously fucked up that Oklahoma bus driver story.
@@ConstantineFurman
What exactly happened with that bus driver, I googled it and I found multiple results?
@@Bradgilliswhammymanif you're parents are beating each other. Or mum is passed out on the couch. How do you think children will learn respect?
If you're teacher says do your homework but parents are to busy to go to the shopping mall where does the child learns to respect the teacher.
A teachers doesn't have to learn the kids yo have respect. They have to teach mathematics. Respect you learn at home. And to many homes are broken.
There's still the lingering problem that some parents who didn't learn anything in school are passing on their vapidity to their little darlings and see teachers as simply glorified baby sitters. You know which kids do better? The ones whose parents show and take interest in their kids' education.
Progressives are responsible for this. They killed parental rights and are raising these kids this way. Parents are no longer allowed to have any meaningful input.
👏👏Exactly! I work in a school, and it's very clear what some students hear and see at home, and it's not good.
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They’re all black
Your pfp is hilarious to see in this video.
As a teacher we get no support from anyone. They treat us as the enemy
Blame your predecessors. Most of my teachers hated children, did a piss-poor job, and were obnoxiously certain that they would never face any repercussions. The kids of that generation grew up, had kids of their own, and have zero sympathy for educators. Most of school is just a pointless daycare for people nearing adulthood that does not provide any useful knowledge.
Don’t you dare pay attention to what almost all of these students have in common. A truly inconvenient truth…
The problem is parents are t parents anymore. They are their kids “friends”. My wife teaches high school English and her school banned cell phones during the day. She said it has made an amazingly positive difference in the kids. They are more attentive, more interactive and actually learning to engage socially with other students and the faculty.
My state implemented a no phones in classroom policy across all its public school. Hasn’t fixed the issue completely but it’s helped give more support to teachers
My province in Canada too. They don't know how they'll go about it though.
What state?
Where?
I didn’t have a cell phone until after high school and in college I only ever took it out to check the time while in class if there wasn’t a clock.
As of now we need a solution not support. I think one solution is if a kid disturbed a class with a phone you are suspended and when the parent see that they need figure out what to do with their kids at home cause they are suspended for a phone they are going to start been tougher parents because it’s messing with their regular life
Its the parents... 100% the parents fault for not raising these little demons properly
True, but you do realize the regulations that give the students all the power. I work at schools where the dangerous kids attend after getting kicked out of regular school. The kids at this point shape up because the next step is incarceration. Consequences improve outcomes.
I work at a school and the root of it does feel like the parents. Zero discipline. Getting a call home from your teacher uses to mean that the student is then disciplined at home. Now it often means that the teacher is berated by the parent. It’s merely anecdotal but yeah I’ve seen teachers get in trouble for disciplining their classes after VERY poor behavior.
Government told parents how to raise their kids. Here’s the results
Well, there are several factors here. Yes, parents are a problem and specifically my fellow Gen-X'ers with their, "My kid is my friend" parenting. But, at the same time if you actually do parent your children they can go to school and tell the administrators they aren't happy with their mom or dad and then mom and dad have to spend 2 months with Social Services coming to the house 3 times a week to do interviews. It's not all cut and dry. The bottom line is we've now raised 2 generations of kids to basically respect absolutely nothing and demand that they get everything handed to them in life for nothing.
It's really sad, and the biggest sadness is that we graduate well over half of them with little or no intelligence whatsoever. I'd be shocked if 15% of today's High School graduates could have graduated with me in the 80's. Don't even get me started on college.
@@stevenmack669what a stupid comment how does the government dictate how parents “parent” their kids ?
My dad taught high school English. If I had even threatened a teacher, there would be no need for the school to discipline me because my dad would have already beaten me into a coma.
Thank you, Bill! Most people blame teachers unions, but honestly, we have our hands tied. Some students have catcalled and have said sexual comments about me and other females in the school. Consequences? “A talk.” They don’t want suspensions or detention because they’re racist. So who in their right mind would want to do this job? I am contemplating switching careers. I just love working with kids and educating them, when they let me!
There’s many roots of this problem. I do think teachers unions do not help reform efforts, but really this issue is an problem of societal rot.
Well if that all happens that shows how worthless the unions are too.
@@JRRob3wn without teachers unions we would be beaten up even more.
Teachers unions absolutely are the problem. You wanna know why kids have no discipline anymore? Because of woke liberal ideology that the school system has pushed for decades often at the behest of teachers unions. Teaching kids that gender is made up and math is racist and that oppression is everywhere tends to create a bunch of worthless, sensitive, authority ignoring nitwits.
Thanks Bill. I am a veteran teacher. Thirty-one years in the education profession. In a sense, I was fortunate to teach in my hometown, a small town in south central Oklahoma. During those years I had to squelch the two most violent incidents to take place in my hometown school. I won't go through all of the details but the first took place while I was doing my student teaching. A student in the far left hand corner of the the classroom went berserk and started throwing desk at another student diagonally across the classroom from him. In the other incident a boy whipped out a knife and stabbed another boy standing in front of me. Fortunately, I was able to get control of both situations without anyone getting seriously injured. You ask, "How did someone get stabbed without getting seriously injured?" Without going into all of the details, the knife hit one of the boy's ribs and did not puncture his lung. Again, without going through all of the details, the "boy" who did the stabbing spent two weeks in jail before going before a judge and he was sentenced to school with the judge wagging his finger at him telling him, "No knifes. No guns." Both were interesting incidents but both were simply bullshit on the part of the authorities. Thanks again for calling attention to violence in our schools.
The judge said "No KNIFES..."?
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Holy shid!😮
if it look and is built like a jail maby its jail
No offense but...knives.
What's happening in public schools reflects the breakdown in values- based parenting in homes across America.
And I'll add my two cents from years ago, when I took a part-time restaurant job so I could afford an entry level newspaper job for $120 a week. One of the waitresses had six kids and the oldest girl told me excitedly that she was going to National Louis University in Chicago upon graduation from the local high school, which I had also attended years earlier. I thought to myself that the girl would be weeded out in the first few weeks, because her English was atrocious. This was also a commentary on how bad our La Grange, Il. high school, once one of the best in the country, had become. When I went we learned the language, spelling, grammar and sentence construction and 97 percent of us went on to the best universities in the country and most graduated. This bright girl then attended Louis and graduated and seeing her again at a family picnic, she told me about her first student teaching job. And her grammar was still atrocious. The school, like many others across the country, simply sold her a degree. Evidently, mastering the curriculum was optional.
*This is all due to Systemic UngaBungaism*
No it reflects the fallout from massive inequality and a society that encourages and rewards it. Also doesn't help that we don't have nationalized healthcare including comprehensive mental health treatment.
How many kids live in poverty???
It's just plain bad parenting. So many people have no business having kids.
Im a teacher and I can tell you, this is 100 percent right
"Your pronouns are 'shut up' and 'sit down'"
Fucking brilliant 😂
I teach at a university and even there it's a shadow of what it was. The students barely care anymore, expecting to pass no matter what. And the terrible thing is, the management wants this ....they want it to be a degree mill. Money in, degrees out. Lecturers are dragged over the hot coals and punished if they dare fail too many bad students. And there are a lot. It's utterly unsustainable.
I went to military school, and none of this shiite went on at all. They simply won't allow negatively charged individuals, to remain in the school. They were escorted off the campus. Some of those kids came from other countries, so they had a heck of a trip home.
Another excellent show, Bill. Thanks!
All public schools were like that when I attended in the 1970’s. The principal would hand out school drop out papers to the trouble makers.
Didn't Trump go to a military schoold. He hmay be been spewing bile because he was repressed in school.
I went back to college in my 50s, and had many classmates straight out of high school.
I could not believe, how uneducated they were...and these were kids who WANTED to learn.
It's so very sad what education is now. I'm in my 50's. My best friend passed away months ago, and her adult kids couldn't read the card. Yeah, so very sad!
I started trying for my Psych degree about 10 years ago in my early 30's... and I had a similar experience. I can only imagine how much worse it is now.
Did they want to learn though? If you went to a very selective college, probably. If it was a less selective school, it's likely that at least half of your classmates only went to college because it was what was expected of them after high school. I attended both types of schools so I know the difference
I had the same experience going back to school. I was never a competent writer but I was astonished how many recent HS grads couldn't write an essay.
@@6Lyra Been to six different colleges over the last 35 years (State Universities and Tech colleges), this last time had the least educated students straight out of high school.
As a teacher, I've embraced an old school approach: less multimedia, more writing and it has worked wonders. Parents please! don't let your children behind screens all day. Kids now can't focus, can't retain info and are super lazy.
You might want to reedit your statement again teacher. "Kids (k)now can't focus...."
lol
Teacher here. I’ve done the same. It’s a game changer.
What does this look like practically? Not using laptops and iPads in classes? Not using projectors and using more paper printout worksheets?
My best friend teaches and has taken a similar approach. Old school projector with clear plastic dry erase slides, written work only, no laptops in the classroom, and cell phones go in a lockbox. Her fourth grade class is the best performing in that school and she’s been named teacher of the year twice in a row. Very sad to see the lack of basic skills in this generation. I’m a millennial-and people always said we were bad-but at least we grew up in the time before smart phones and social media, we can hold conversations, played with toys as children, and knew how to write with a pen and pencil. My friend had students this September who are so used to typing everything, she had to help show them how to use a pencil.
I’m sure that easier for the teacher, but the students will fail a post-ChatGPT (LLM) world
There's a trend with most of these attacks, one we're supposed to ignore.
I watched 2 of my best friend, teachers, get physically assaulted by a 2nd grader and 10th grader. And then they laughed about it. As did the parents. Gave up teaching because I will absolutely not allow that shit in my classroom. I can lead with kindness but still be firm. And that’s something the schools think is a big problem.
This is unbelievable.
I went to school from 1958 to 1971 in Los Angeles public schools. Never once in all those years did I see anything close to what were in these videos.
I grew up in White Middle Class Suburbia in the late 50’s through the early 70’s. I had to work hard to get good enough grades to go to a University of California school.
I am so glad there was no social media back then. Life was so innocent compared to what is going on today.
Social media is not good.
Don't blame social media for capturing the bad behavior of students - it's the way kids are raised today - they are the most coddled and spoiled kids ever - the parents are not allowed to give a whipping or they can go to jail and the schools are not allowed to suspend them for being bad
It is not just technology, it is parents. Awful people make awful parents.
@@Annapurna818you're forgetting their parents were raised in social media too.
Yeah it’s just social media that makes LA so bad now.
I graduated high school in 2009. I went to a Jesuit high school which is basically a catholic high school. I was an atheist then, and my counselors who I told that to supported me. Just to say it wasn't a place of pure indoctrination into the faith. When I went to college I was shocked at how far behind my peers were in writing and science courses. It was like being put into classes with middle schoolers.
"God works in mysterious ways".
"god helps those who help themselves" - myself, an atheist
Same experience all my life I was in private school or home school with private tutoring & my mother teaching and when I went to college it was shocking how far behind everyone was.
@@PuzzlingChap I'm trying to think how many times I've seen people abuse the directive "help yourself". They think to themselves, "Oh? Help myself? I was only going to take one, but, hearing that, I guess I'll take several more." I don't know how many times, but it's quite a few. And I don't know if any of them are theists or atheists.
I went to Catholic Grammar school, in our town, every student who came from St Thomas was put into Advanced Placement classes in the public high school.
24-year LAUSD High School teacher here: The blame is on ADMINISTRATION.
The students can do no wrong; ZERO consequences. It's always the teacher's fault.
I agree with that. School boards and administrations, especially, have been coached by attorneys to avoid lawsuits at all costs. Good basic principle, but not considering the results we've heard from Bill's excellent New Rules.
20 year LAUSD here. 100% agree.
With all respect, isn't it largely the legal structure under which the administration works? The administration didn't dream up "least restrictive environment" or "mainstreaming" or categorize behavior problems as a "disability" that must be "accommodated." The administration didn't dream up the legal environment in which the school can be sued for damn near anything.
There’s plenty of blame to go around. It’s starts with the parents. Admin is scared of losing their jobs to a law suit if it backs up the teacher. We treat education like it’s a business and they’re customers we don’t want to upset (lest they go elsewhere and out BSA goes down) so everyone placates the kids and they have the power. I’m all for kids owning their power, but their prefrontal cortex is still developing and that’s why adults are in charge. It’s the BIGGER picture that kids can’t see. But if parents don’t instill respect- it all goes to shit.
If only there was a common trait about all these attackers....hmmm if only.
As someone who works with kids, Bill hits this one out of the park. Of course, there are exceptions (and I do continue to see a lot of good in kids), but these issues are real.
I can tell you as a Catholic School alum who sent his kids to public schools there's no comparison. The teachers in Catholic schools put up with zero nonsense. For what it costs to send their kids to those schools they get a call from the principal those kids are in big trouble when they get home. The teachers are usually better as many are more knowlegable in the subject they teach than public school teachers. And the Catholic High School I attended was not hyper conservative. I had a history teacher who taught us about some Native American tribes had openly gay communities, and in lit. class we read books like 1984, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird and Grapes of Wrath, all favorites of the Book Burning Clubs. A passing grade was 70%. 69 was an "F", so even our letter grades were higher than public school standards.
69 was an F - nice
I’d rather send my kid to public school than send them to catholic school that forces prayers on you and teaches creationist hilarious bullshit and forces right wing conservatives racist views down your throats…..
Sorry but you can’t ever argue to ever send kids to a Christian school
I taught Catholic school for two years after getting out of the navy back in the early 1980s and my seventh graders especially weren’t really the best behaved so I would holler at them frequently not wanting to be a pushover. But the head nun could really scream at them and would sometimes even ring a bell in their ears while really letting them have it verbally. Then also she could really give the parents an extremely hard time occasionally which to me was hysterical. But then she finally went nuts when I told my class they could bring their sleds in for the last snowfall of the season. When she saw those sleds lined up outside of my class she really let me have it in front of the kids. So I walked off the job and got a job teaching in the Cleveland ghetto through the Cleveland public schools. The ghetto kids being older were better behaved in class but far worse in the hallways when changing classes. They finally had to set up a mobile police command center in a trailer out in the parking lot just to ride herd on all the wild kids there. Then they shut down the building and converted it into a storage facility.
What "book burning clubs"? Conservatives don't ban those books. The ones that FL and other states removed from elementary schools were grossly inappropriate for young (K-3 grade) children. Overtly, graphically sexually oriented. Let kids be kids!
@@lesliemooney9305 A. I looked at your page and to no surprise, you're a troll, so, B, I'll play along with your nonsense by saying name the books deemed inappropriate, C. cite the passages in the books that are inappropriate for those age groups and how you know as fact they were in child sections of libraries for kids K-3 rather then teenage or adult. D. name the many states and school districts which banned them since you said "other states", finally E. of these school districts which banned books, how many of these school boards are controlled by Trump supporting nut jobs? And last but not least, in 2021 two members of the Spotsylvania Va school board advocated burning books. In 2022, conservative ministers outside Nashville burned Harry Potter books for being "Wtichcraft". Do you want me to go on? It is also hyperbole to mention book burning clubs but I don't assume you know what hyperbole is. Just know that this is fascism and it's on full display and In don't know if it was your idea to respond or if you are paid to do it but just know I'm more than happy to expose you and your ideology.
None of this is surprising. We only have to look at how adults behave in this country. You don’t have to look harder than at a school board meeting, a political rallye or speech, a House of representative session… We see it everyday. Kids do, too.
kids saw their parents act the saem way at their sportsball games, I was in three leagues 2 of them were run into the ground by parents who acted like the MOdern GOP, all trying to shank each other because they wanted their kid to be the SUPER STAR, eventhough they were never going to be. Of course 65% of these kids burn out at 12.
Good point.
Nothing to do with low expectations from people of Color, bc the truth might slap you in thr face.
My daughter is in her last year in college to become a teacher. I’m terrified for her future.
I teach at a community college and am in my 20th year here. I also have seen the shift in students. They don't want to accept responsibility for their actions at all. They look for someone to blame, usually the teacher. Thankfully, we don't have to deal with the violence that elementary and high school teachers deal with. However, the lack of educational training these students receive in grades K-12 is astonishing. We have to offer remedial or developmental classes because these high school graduates (some of them with GPAs above 3.0) cannot read, write, or do math at grade level. We are expected to take a student and bring them from elementary to college reading level in one semester (15 weeks). How in the world can be do something in 15 weeks that the schools have not been able to accomplish in 13 years?? And with much less funding, no less.
Because all of generation Z view themselves as victims
Diploma mills like current high schools and colleges need to fail kids who cant do the work at level. Kids dont have a right to a diploma, and if they dont earn the grade teachers need to stop giving the grade. I understand that nowadays teachers are held responsible for lazy failing entitled brats not passing, that also needs to change. These schools, including yours, have lowered their standards in the name of profit. I've been in the room when a JC student reads a paper in an English class and this student shouldn't have passed 5th grade English, but this JC gave him a B on a paper undeserving of a D in elementary school. Diploma mills, nobody is learning anything because you have demonstrated they dont have to in order to pass, they just have to sign a check.
Failing work should equate to failing grades. Period.
There are no consequences for these little animals
It's funny..I was told that I was wrong for being strict on my kids. Not getting them phones till they reached 10th grade. But looking back, now that all three of them have master degrees I don't think I was wrong for how they grew up.
Yes, you're perfect.. and no phones made the difference.. 🤡
@morbidmanmusic Thank you, but perfection is not possible in humans. I just taught my kids that there are always consequences to there actions and if someone starts something we finish it. Enjoy life.
All this crapola starts and ends in the home...PERIOD! Shitty parenting is at the root of most of this abominable behavior. Your parents either instill in you a sense of respect for yourself and others or they don't. Throwing teachers under the bus when they do discipline your brat does nothing but undermine the entire education system.
It's not that simple. Parents can lay the law down at home, but what happens when their kids come home with UNDESERVED straight A's. That institutionalized corruption undermines the parents' roles completely. American kids are morons compared to kids from China, India and much of Europe. (I don't know as much about European schools, anymore).
In the 90’s I had so many disobedience referrals that I spent half my time at school in detention, ISS, on actual suspension, and almost wound up in a school exclusively for juvenile delinquency. Because I was punk ass bad kid. If I had hit a teacher though, I would have been instantly expelled and sent to Juvie Jail for at least 6 months.
Parents are to blame.
Long time fan and high school English teacher from Scranton. You nailed it precisely with your take on public schools. That’s the problem! I started teaching in 1995 and have lived through everything from the strict parents had our backs part through to today . Thanks for your attention! I’m not sure anything will change but thanks for the spotlight on the problem!👏🏼💪🏼💃🏽
Graduated in 2013-14, hated high school acted out in my freshman & the first half of my sophomore got sent to the principal and counselors office multiple times and was punished by parents by having electronics taken away (including my phone). I graduated from an alternative school where they took our phones at the start of the day and didn't talk to anyone other than teachers until the last day of school the year I arrived (students were surprised I could talk) because I learned to STFU and do my work (although we did have access to mp3s and radio sites at school as long as we got our work done).
Teachers have been protesting across the country for better pay and working conditions (which they deserve) they should be demanding that something should be done to the students for being with their devices. The young people who are being a distraction and committing crimes should know that those actions have consequences. Being young and dumb is one thing (we all know that) but it seems like it has reached a new level of: WTF IS GOING ON?
Great bit on the state of teaching in this country!
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Yeah I'm dead.
That's was a great line!!
I won't have kids either
Thank you from a veteran teacher. Get the phones out! Teachers too. Phone addiction among our children is a national emergency that needs to be fixed now.
I put my oldest in virtual school and think everyone should because my kid isn't distracted by all the BS that is in public high schools. Last time I went to a high school there were kids shooting tiktok videos, kids walking out the front door to leave, and another kid cursing out the counselors in the front office. It was like a prison. I think everyone knows the root cause but can't say anything. My guess is it won't get better in my lifetime.
I could never imagine anyone doing this when I was going to school in the '90s and early 2000s. I remember I had a teacher who would get upset if some students weren't listening and would yell at the class to shut up. It was very unusual back then to hear a teacher tell students to shut up so that made everyone quiet and pay attention to the teacher very quickly. My mom works in a school and she sometimes says some of the students she deals with makes her feel like she's teaching prison 101.
My high school (I was class of 06) was just like this. 3000+ kids crammed into a small set of buildings smaller than a half city block.
Multiple fights every day, stabbings. It was more about surviving than it was learning. I used to get ridiculed for being able to read above a 3rd grade level, when we would have to take turns reading from our text books aloud.
It's clearly getting worse, but it was already like this in places back then. I can remember when I was in middle school, our district scored so badly on the state standard tests that the government pulled our funding. Learning from 30 year old text books in high school. Cutting edge education...
I started school in this country in 2000 in middle school and this was the problem already. I was amazed because where I came from we were still respecting and be scared of teacher and then come to this first world country and see a bunch of wild kids treating teachers like shit and teacher looking depressed and crazy it was sad and mind blowing.
Really? You couldn't imagine this in the 90s and 2000s? You must be sheltered. Don't you remember that it was such a problem in inner city schools that it became a huge Hollywood trope. Remember the movie The Substitute (became a series) or Dangerous Minds (out Coolio on the map with his hit single Gangsta's Paradise) or the parody of these High School High? Just to name a few... There were major problems with gangs and gun violence and disrespecting teachers in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, it's not new.
@@RyneLanders I grew up in small town Canada. We didn't have guns. I was too busy doing homework to be out doing anything else.
@@HaleyMary ah, so sheltered as I suspected. Thanks for clarifying.
My sister quit teaching after 18 years. Last year at Christmas break she told them she wont be coming back. Its gotten so bad. She said she was told not to correct certain students, it might set them off.
That’s just so corrupt. All of the good teachers are quitting because of how things are being run now and all we’re left with are temps and weirdos and a few brave souls who actually care about children and are trying to make things work in an impossible environment. People are quitting teaching at lightning speed. It’s wild how fast things eroded.
Your sister is better off. It’s almost impossible to reach in situations like that. She’s also safer.
She quit in the middle of the school year? Wow. Must have been so bad.
Before I retired I was a Trainer in the States Fire Service Academy - I was constantly amazed by the number of trained teachers who entered the Fire Service in spite of their teaching qualifications.
When I asked ( many of them) why they had switched professions, the basic answer I got was that it was far more desirable to face down a raging fire than face down a class room full of adolescent High School students.
I received a taste of this a few years later when I returned to active front line firefighting and had attended a school fire.
After the fire was out I was walking across the grounds talking to the school Principal when he accidently bumped into a 15 year old student who ran by us.
Before the Principal could react, the young student said " watch where you are f***ing going you old c**t.
The Principal apologised !!
I could never be a teacher....I'm sure I would be up on a murder charge on my first day.
We're not dealing with the elephant in the room and you know it.
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I was a teacher for 5 years, and left. It was horrible. I absolutely love my new career and am so happy I left education. I may consider going back if I could work at Bill's school.
What do you do now?
Not the schools.. it's the parents..
Black ppl dont have dads that stick around
Parents and the spineless Boards of Education that would rather fire the teacher than try to reason with over-entitled parents!
They deserve more money!!! You couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher these days 😢
BILL, YOU GOT AN A+ ON THIS HIGH SCHOOL REVIEW !!!
So sad! Teachers deserve better! More respect for them. Let’s start giving a raise for all and protect teachers against violence in their workplace. Period!
Those who pay attention to the real problems of society, have been discussing this issue for years. But, I am glad you have, informed others. Unfortunately you have to describe the problem in Joke form, for them to see the problem.
I happily worked in a federal academic program for 36 years that forbade cell phones when they came on the scene, until the pandemic hit and the kids were allowed to use their cell phones "for research", a toxic combination, so I retired.
I can’t imagine what public school is like now. So glad I’m the age I am. Certain things simply weren’t tolerated. A student wouldn’t dream of hitting a teacher. That was unheard of. Nowadays there’s a total disregard of authority. When I was in school if you were acting a fool (and your parents found out) you got dealt with when you got home.
Bull. I'm 62 and this happened in my days too. Yeah, not over Nintendo.. but, still.
I minored in education during undergraduate and for a while entertained the idea of becoming a teacher. Didn’t end up going that route, so can’t really comment on the current state of the profession. One thing I do know, however, is that learning manners and good behavior starts at home. Obviously, there is special etiquette that kids need to learn in a classroom, but it’s not the teachers job to instill basic respect and civility. While that task may fall to the teachers in some cases, it really shouldn't. Teachers may succeed where parents have failed, but the real question is why the parents failed in the first place.
This. If the parents are garbage the kids are too.
I live in Newport News, VA, where the six-year-old shot his teacher with his mother’s gun. Sure, the school officials were delinquent in not searching the backpack of the known trouble-maker. Sure, they were idiots for not using the metal detectors because “they didn’t want the kids to feel like they were entering prison.” (Ever try to get to the gate in an airport nowadays? Ever try to enter a museum?) The fault lies with the parent - a mother on drugs who just didn’t care. I think that a prospective parent should be forced to go through classes and get a license - or else they lose their kid to adoption.
@@birbluv9595 Adoption by whom? You think taxpayers are going to pay much heavier property tax bills to support the progeny of rotten parents? Not in most states they won't.
We need school choice! Stop blindly voting for Democrats who oppose it!
Terrible. This week in Florida a student attacked another student. He was airlifted to hospitsl WTF
I agree 100%. I’m from the totally respectful, ever fearful, generation. What, Bill, is the solution? I’m worried for my great-grand children
You’re absolutely right Bill. Far too many people have kids as a prize as opposed to dedicating themselves to and raising good human beings the world can benefit from. Discipline? Forget about it. My kids know better, I don’t play that sh* but I’m up against my kids dealing with those who know no better along with having little to no decency.
I’m 22 years old, and my high school did allow the use of phones, did introductions with pronouns and so on but there was no beating the shit out of teachers. I can’t speak for everyone else’s parents back in high school, but my parents wouldn’t have killed me if I had did something like that, they would have flayed me alive.
I'm only 7 years older than you and it's still baffling to hear that they even let you use phones and that pronouns were/are a thing. In high school if we got caught with our phone we got detention immediately and had to turn our phone in to the teacher until the end of the day.
This only happens when there's a lot of black kids
Teachers used to be your other parents.
@lolaloliepop - I'm only 11 years older and it was pagers mightiest days, then phones came in and and threw pagers into the junk drawer.
@@lolaloliepop No, how old are you NOW...really? Are you in grade school, high school, or two years away from cashing in your 401(k)? I'm guessing near 35, because you can't construct a comprehensive sentence.
My state, Missouri, has a safe school act which prohibits the student from attending school if he/she strikes a teacher.
I taught at a junior high where there was a strict ''no phones'' rule. So what the students did was keep the phone just on the edge inside their desk, and could slide it out far enough to read it. If I came near, they simply slid it back. I could tell they were reading them when they looked down at their laps. There was absolutely no way to catch them. I really began to hate them for their brazen disobedience.
Absolutely hilarious, sane, rational, logical, & correct. Thanks, Richard 👌👍
Teachers can't even say "shut up and sit down" anymore, actually. Saying shut up is apparently akin to cussing them out
They should apply at a Catholic school, they are very busy so they must be hiring.
Teachers are afraid of their Administration - Administrations fear retrobution from their Districts - Districts live in complete angst of their School Boards - the School Boards kowtow to the parents - and parents have little to no control over their children. There is no discipline - no accountability - no consequences - 28 year teacher retiring this year.
Thank you. 💙
They should give teachers the right to who they want to teach. If you have a student that is unruly and is not listening, goodbye. Those students are taking time away from the ones who actually want to learn and realize that in the coming economy knowledge and the ability to use either computers or tools will be the best way to secure work in the future economy.
Thanks for talking about this. It’s important and needs to change.
"No, you can't be on your phone here, and your pronouns are 'shut up' and 'sit down.'"
We need to let teachers say this on the daily again.
Not much of a grammar lesson though. Shut up and sit down are verbs not pronouns.
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But it won't solve the problem that you cannot re-educated millions of American teachers who are not themselves, that well educated. We have decades of rot every since universities, especially, began operating as profit centers. In Illinois, the University of Illinois once had the third largest corporate budget in the state. I don't know what it is now.
Absolutely not. People like you are the problem
When I was little.. they could
I could never imagine this happening when I was in school - because it never did! My parents were on my side absolutely! But they were also very much on the side of the teachers. So I certainly didn’t get away with anything. Then again, I would never thought, and I mean never, to take a swing at a teacher. Smh. I think it’s insane and goes to show that some kids think it’s ok for them to lose their shit and put a teacher in the ICU. Well, it’s not ok. Never has been. The only way I would ever see it as ok, is if a teacher grabs and punches the student first or tries to molest the kid. And that my parents would agree with me on that.
Went to Catholic School and when that eraser was coming at your friend you knew you couldn't misbehave
I think the most trouble I ever got in during my time in school was getting caught not doing hw, and my parents were on the teacher’s side. They would not have permitted physical assault of a teacher. And my parents were very much on my side- they sued the school district in my hometown when I was little so I could get the accommodations and help I needed for my autism.
*This is all due to Systemic UngaBungaism*
I don't know how old you are but this is nothing new. The difference is we now have video of it happening. Just like all other crime. It's actually down in the big scheme of things. The student who hit the teacher was in the right over the cell phone by the way. You can't just take someone's phone.
In these videos, there's one consistent thing I see in each, I just can't name it...
Stop it!! It's 2023. You aren't allowed to recognize patterns anymore!
Yeah, I noticed a certain commonality, as well
Absolutely, truthful! Loved it!
Thank you for telling the truth. This country is in big trouble.
I went to Catholic schools and I realized I was ahead of public school kids when they transferred in and were playing catch up in all subjects.
Excellent report - terrifying.
It’s insane how far the schools have fallen in just 10 years. Even in 2010, it was nowhere near this bad. What will 2030 look like? What hell.
More peace, love and good times from the 13%
Cell phones should not be allowed tp be used during school hours... PERIOD!!!!
Well said and spot on Bill, what’s happening in schools is ridiculous.
The issue within the schools is with the privilege blacks have now. We are allowed to do whatever we want without fear of repercussion.
I feel so lucky to have gone to Catholic school. The teachers are actually allowed to discipline students.
You make it sound like the start of a lovely BDSM career :D
Have to agree with this. This amount of students who can’t do basic math coming out of high school is frightening.
basic math, basic reading comprehension, naming a country or a continent, they really come out knowing nothing
Math? Hell they can't even skrēēk Îngritsch.
Bill, I so admire your courage in commenting on controversial issues like this one !!
Accountability! The school system needs to take some, parents needs to take some and the students need to take some too.
It starts at home. If the parents raise a bunch of wild heathens with no discipline, there's not much that the teachers can do.
I got a teaching license over 16 years ago, but I never actually became a teacher because I hated being a substitute teacher so much that I decided that I would rather work in fast food, retail, and amazon than be a teacher! And you know why I hated being a substitute? THE KIDS! I could NOT get them to shut the fuck up 90% of the time. Fortunately, I was never attacked or anything serious, but I stopped subbing over a decade ago.
They're animals. They were raised by Godless, atheist Democrat animals, so they turned out as animals too.
The mid/late 20th century was full of tearing down old ideas. Now we are seeing that those old idea were developed by our ancestors for a reason.
You've got it EXACTLY right!!! We have to bring respect for your elders back
I'm 60. When I went to school, if I told my dad a teacher hit me, HE would have hit me, too, and said, "WTF did you do!?"
My Mom was my teacher for grades 2 & 3, and did she ever hit! Scary...
I'm amused someone I'm their 60s is using "WTF" in their sentences. What a country.
I'm 73 and I don't know why you're so effin' surprised. You're probably one of those people who think that someone my age, who was a professional computer programmer since 1983, doesn't know how to use a smart phone or a Roku. Dayum, sunshine, I can make this freaking phone dance an Irish jig if I want to. @@nickbarcheck1019
@@nickbarcheck1019 I'm 73 and I don't know why you're so effin' surprised. You're probably one of those people who think that someone my age, who was a professional computer programmer since 1983, doesn't know how to use a smart phone or a Roku. Dayum, sunshine, I can make this freaking phone dance an Irish jig if I want to.
All those students have something in common….
And I would say what it is, but I want to keep my YT account.
@@matt_milack POC?
@@JJ-wh3rh yup
Parents are the most important teacher a child has.
Solid piece, well done Bill. Probably one of your best opinion pieces lately.
We have the exact same problem here in Brazil and for quite some time. Here, they even set the teacher's car on fire just for receiving bad grades.
I know he had help from the writers, but this is why I love Bill Maher.
And they wonder why no one wants to do this job for shit pay.
I blame the parents for not teaching respect for authority.
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Exaaaactly!!!!! It’s starts with the parents….
the truth hurts doesn't it. thanks Bill for discussing this domestic issue.
I'm never more depressed about the future of our country than after Bill's New Rule segments.
What kind of sick **** pummels someone who's unconscious? That was really gross to watch. Jfc, what the hell even was that?
Typical behavior for his kind.
notice a common denominator with teacher beatings?