They honestly massacred the katana, although i dont blame rolve for nerfing it, i remember seeing people getting massive killstreaks with this weapon left and right, so it was probably best it got nerfed. Still would be nice to see them maybe revamp the katana in a later update tho
@@Grimmmmy-boy quite literally the only kills you'll get with the katana is on clueless players, or if you manage to ambush your opponent also, i'm still wondering why the fuck trooper still gets 100 health back on kill with katana, like...why???
@@NEOTENACITY9trooper didn’t have any balance issues with the katana so it would just be making the outclassed weapon worse, like seriously when do you see a trooper running the katana instead of the escape plan or market gardener?
I'm a fairly newbish player and I managed to get 5 kills in a streak thanks to raging bull + boots with this weapon Just need to play a sort of roamer playstyle while occasionally going back for medic, and make sure not to target more than two players at once lol
something that isn't mentioned about the battle axe is that it can one shot light classes if you're using a shield. combined with the 50 damage from an unboosted shield bash, the 78 damage adds up to do 128 damage. this alone makes it one of the better melee picks for anni, it is nowhere near the worst of his choices. I love the video though, the edits and comparisons are great but the battle axe was the only one I really heavily disagreed with.
oh yeah forgot to mention this in the original comment but since the initial hit does 128 damage with a shield bash you can also 2 shot troopers, pretty useful but a little situational
The battle axe is the worst for actual demo knight but it’s really good for hybrid knights who mainly use there grenade launcher because it has no downsides when it’s unequipped
idk if they have this in tc2, but in tf2 the battle axe had one thing all the other swordsndidnt have. "random crits" the more damage done with the axe, the better the chance of crits. so it would be op af in tf2.
Furious flagxe. It got me my first 25 killstreak. And no I don’t use the bloody bracer for the bullet damage resistance, I prefer the chargin’ bull. It’s too op imo.
I’ve learned to love the breakpoints in damage with the Battle Axe. I pair it with the Ragin’ Bull. I can get devastating crit damage while still retaining the ability to trimp. The slower movement speed can be played around by good map positioning and knowledge. Spartan Savior + Tide Turner still best hybridknight loadout.
Just use flag axe with basher shield, it removes the bullet damage debuff and gives u 5% bullet resistance. Pair it with squire boots and ur fast AF and can catch up to anyone that isn't a flanker
Me realizing that I’ve been using the best Annihilator melee this entire time: 😧 (Makes sense because I ended up being the MVP of RED in one Badwater match because of it)
Battle axe + Tide turner + Squire boots = -5% movement speed, +25 max hp, +50% charge refill on kill Stats: Flanker, Mechanic, Marksman, Agent: 1 Shield Impact, 1 Swing (or just 2 Swings) Doctor, Arsonist, Annihilator, Trooper: 1 Shield Bash, 2 Swings (or just 3 Swings) Brute: 1 Shield Bash, 4 Swings (or just 4 Swings) Battle axe + Galdiators guard + Squire boots = -5% movement speed, +25 max hp, +25% charge refill on kill, +25% charge recharge rate, +70% shield charge impact dmg Stats: Flanker, Mechanic, Marksman, Agent, Doctor: 1 Shield Bash, 1 Swing Arsonist, Annihilator, Trooper: 1 Shield Bash, 2 Swings Brute: 1 Shield Bash, 3 Swings Damage needed is based off of base hp and this is assuming you shield bash (makes a difference with gladiators guard when changing the first swing with a shield bash) so Battle Axe by itself isnt so great but it can do so much better. I have nothing better to do at 2:30 A.M.
finally, a video NOT sleeping on spartan savior. ive been using it for so long and ive only seen like 4 other demoknights using it. ITS LITERALLY THE BEST THING EVER.
Katana would have been A tier if they didn't nerf it (It was a good idea they did nerf it) Black Death (Formerly called Soulsucker/Called "Eyelander" in Pre-Haul) would have been a S tier for me if it was pre 2019 TC2, where it would shred people like it was nothing. Overall, I gotta say that this tier is like 9.7/10, it could be better but, I respect the effort that was put in this video and the time it took -Yours truly (A Former memeber)
I am demokight tc2 and the elegant blade is for me the best because you can fly whit it (if you know the right place and practice) and flank the red team and my favorite map for that is harvest have literally 8 ramps , you can fly
I agree that the battle axe base damage(78) is actually pretty bad but it's crits are devastating so you can pair this with the raging bull and one shot troopers increasing your chance of survival after killing a trooper without being blasted with 112 damage in the face. I like to use this weapon in vsbosses because of the same reason.
@@typicaldumbism6653 true, shields are usually more fun but that's the meta and i hate the meta and using stickies automatically removes like half the anni melees from your choices so some melees become better
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They honestly massacred the katana, although i dont blame rolve for nerfing it, i remember seeing people getting massive killstreaks with this weapon left and right, so it was probably best it got nerfed. Still would be nice to see them maybe revamp the katana in a later update tho
The damage vulnerability is already bad, and then you get almost no health on kill. It’s unusable right now
@@Grimmmmy-boy quite literally the only kills you'll get with the katana is on clueless players, or if you manage to ambush your opponent
also, i'm still wondering why the fuck trooper still gets 100 health back on kill with katana, like...why???
@@NEOTENACITY9trooper didn’t have any balance issues with the katana so it would just be making the outclassed weapon worse, like seriously when do you see a trooper running the katana instead of the escape plan or market gardener?
@@AnAlrightPlayerIt was meh.
Katana is funny with troopah
I'm a fairly newbish player and I managed to get 5 kills in a streak thanks to raging bull + boots with this weapon
Just need to play a sort of roamer playstyle while occasionally going back for medic, and make sure not to target more than two players at once lol
something that isn't mentioned about the battle axe is that it can one shot light classes if you're using a shield. combined with the 50 damage from an unboosted shield bash, the 78 damage adds up to do 128 damage. this alone makes it one of the better melee picks for anni, it is nowhere near the worst of his choices.
I love the video though, the edits and comparisons are great but the battle axe was the only one I really heavily disagreed with.
oh yeah forgot to mention this in the original comment but since the initial hit does 128 damage with a shield bash you can also 2 shot troopers, pretty useful but a little situational
The battle axe is the worst for actual demo knight but it’s really good for hybrid knights who mainly use there grenade launcher because it has no downsides when it’s unequipped
0:33 "the battle b- axe"
idk if they have this in tc2, but in tf2 the battle axe had one thing all the other swordsndidnt have. "random crits" the more damage done with the axe, the better the chance of crits. so it would be op af in tf2.
Furious flagxe. It got me my first 25 killstreak. And no I don’t use the bloody bracer for the bullet damage resistance, I prefer the chargin’ bull. It’s too op imo.
I’ve learned to love the breakpoints in damage with the Battle Axe. I pair it with the Ragin’ Bull. I can get devastating crit damage while still retaining the ability to trimp. The slower movement speed can be played around by good map positioning and knowledge.
Spartan Savior + Tide Turner still best hybridknight loadout.
Just use flag axe with basher shield, it removes the bullet damage debuff and gives u 5% bullet resistance. Pair it with squire boots and ur fast AF and can catch up to anyone that isn't a flanker
Me, the low tier hero using the katana every single day with 10k kills
👍respect
22K here brotha!
Me realizing that I’ve been using the best Annihilator melee this entire time: 😧
(Makes sense because I ended up being the MVP of RED in one Badwater match because of it)
😱
bro I love the katana
Battle axe + Tide turner + Squire boots = -5% movement speed, +25 max hp, +50% charge refill on kill
Stats:
Flanker, Mechanic, Marksman, Agent: 1 Shield Impact, 1 Swing (or just 2 Swings)
Doctor, Arsonist, Annihilator, Trooper: 1 Shield Bash, 2 Swings (or just 3 Swings)
Brute: 1 Shield Bash, 4 Swings (or just 4 Swings)
Battle axe + Galdiators guard + Squire boots = -5% movement speed, +25 max hp, +25% charge refill on kill, +25% charge recharge rate, +70% shield charge impact dmg
Stats:
Flanker, Mechanic, Marksman, Agent, Doctor: 1 Shield Bash, 1 Swing
Arsonist, Annihilator, Trooper: 1 Shield Bash, 2 Swings
Brute: 1 Shield Bash, 3 Swings
Damage needed is based off of base hp and this is assuming you shield bash (makes a difference with gladiators guard when changing the first swing with a shield bash) so Battle Axe by itself isnt so great but it can do so much better.
I have nothing better to do at 2:30 A.M.
katana in my opinion is A tier since if you use chargin' targe with it it basically negates the effect
depends on preference ig
finally, a video NOT sleeping on spartan savior. ive been using it for so long and ive only seen like 4 other demoknights using it. ITS LITERALLY THE BEST THING EVER.
As one of 4 spartan saviour mains, i appreciate that people finally recognise the beaty of this weapon, because it has no downsides on demoknight
Katana would have been A tier if they didn't nerf it (It was a good idea they did nerf it)
Black Death (Formerly called Soulsucker/Called "Eyelander" in Pre-Haul) would have been a S tier for me if it was pre 2019 TC2, where it would shred people like it was nothing.
Overall, I gotta say that this tier is like 9.7/10, it could be better but, I respect the effort that was put in this video and the time it took
-Yours truly (A Former memeber)
lemme help next time with footage and shit
“What did they do to my beloved Caber”
-Elmaxo-
Honestly, i prefer the katana than the spartan saviour because i found a really good build with it
Squire Boots
Ragin bull
Katana
well, battle axe is good when you pair it with the boots its 20 + damage with no down side
I am demokight tc2 and the elegant blade is for me the best because you can fly whit it (if you know the right place and practice) and flank the red team and my favorite map for that is harvest have literally 8 ramps , you can fly
3:24 favorite part!!!!
I agree that the battle axe base damage(78) is actually pretty bad but it's crits are devastating so you can pair this with the raging bull and one shot troopers increasing your chance of survival after killing a trooper without being blasted with 112 damage in the face. I like to use this weapon in vsbosses because of the same reason.
Side note a crit hit+ normal hit can kill 300 health brutes so that's something I guess
I can understand the Spartan Savior, but in my opinion it’s kind of hard to use because it takes up the whole bottom part of the screen.
you can minimize the models
Finally somebody said this wonderful words btw i main this weapon and can easily kill bosses or farm damage on them lol
Man i use katan for my mian melee and i kill 500 ppls with katan
shields SUCK use stickies and the shock & awe will instantly become better
I used to use stickies but got bored of them and used shields
@@typicaldumbism6653 true, shields are usually more fun but that's the meta and i hate the meta and using stickies automatically removes like half the anni melees from your choices so some melees become better
hey also what are the best boots to use?
I’m just getting back into watching TC2 Videos, and this is what I see.
“Battle Axe is F tier”
I’m gonna lose it.
If youre not hybrid knight katana is A tier, and Spartain savior is overpowered. (Straight upgrade from stock)
where the golden sun rise katana man :(
its just a reskin of katana, nothing special other than its color
I really miss the no self damage on hit stat on the shock and awe, and I have no idea why did they removed, it wasn't even that strong
😟
yea pretty sad it felt way more fun than the tf2 version since you couldnt take damage
How can this video get only 500 views in 4 days?😔
The battle axe is really good on dmg but it need some charge
I agree with all the rankings
truest information!
how do you get your hats and weareable of tc2 for your animations?
I do not agree with this tierlist you cant give a caber a D and the axe an F, that makes no sense
WOAH
chunchunmaru (broken sword) best melee
hm, i think shock and awe should stay with katana in C cause it + ragin bull = KABLOEEEEEEEEEE
thats true but thats only with the raging bull so thats why I put it in D tier with anything else its not that useful
I thought you were done with this game?
randomly got back into it ig idk
7:29 balls lightning, I see you
battle axe slaps in vsb
Im still not dropping my black death and katana
oh hell yeah
Spartan shield with black death💀
RSK best sword fr fr.
crazy how 2 years ago you left me for your fans now I got way more subs then you. its me officialsumit btw
i didnt u just make it out like that😭
About to start hate!!
just play tf2
Just watch TF2 if you don’t like this
Let us be.
No
Yall just need to play tf2. Embarrassing as hell
Shut up