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I believe that it is very much ok to compliment someone on doing a good job on their school work that they actually did a good job on and wanted to do. I understand the reasoning behind the strategy, however, children are impressionable. People should be able to feel good about what they do, and others appreciating the work put in, is the main reason for performing the work; for self, but also for others. There's no reason to do things that people don't want, need, or appreciate. I understand much more fully now, after years have elapsed that has indirectly tried to take success away from me, how important internal motivation is towards personal success in the face of a defensive generation.
@Richie Propster I think the issue that the previous person was trying to make is that this presenter said that it is about positive reinforcement not negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is typically misunderstood. Negative reinforcement involves removing an aversive stimulus (e.g., homework) in order to reward a desired behavior (e.g., excellent behavior). This video should say that PBIS focuses on reinforcement of desired behaviors instead of punishing for undesired behaviors. Otherwise this is a great video.
If we reward students who are more or less doing what they should have been doing anyways we could be sending the wrong message so I'd say a lot of this is contextual. The biggest problem I see here is that students could expect rewards for doing simple things therefore lessening learner autonomy.
Has the vocab changed or is it wrong? I've been teaching for 18 years and positive reinforcement used to mean "giving" (compliments, tokens, prizes, etc.) and negative reinforcement meant "taking away" (loss of recess, loss of privilege, pay a token, demerits, etc.)
Hello, negative reinforcement would be the removal of an aversive stimulus, such as taking away a detention because the student had shown up many times and behaved.
Our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents didn't have anything like this, and they turned out much better developed than the over-medicated walking mental disorders you call students these days.
A combination of PBSI with punishment would be the best approach. If students are not punished early on they will grow up to become a part of our criminal justice system. Today, students have too many rights.
Where is your data? I’ve never seen research that suggests behavior strategies that don’t implement punishment correlate with an increase in student-to-prison rates.
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I believe that it is very much ok to compliment someone on doing a good job on their school work that they actually did a good job on and wanted to do. I understand the reasoning behind the strategy, however, children are impressionable. People should be able to feel good about what they do, and others appreciating the work put in, is the main reason for performing the work; for self, but also for others. There's no reason to do things that people don't want, need, or appreciate. I understand much more fully now, after years have elapsed that has indirectly tried to take success away from me, how important internal motivation is towards personal success in the face of a defensive generation.
Thank you for providing this explanation of PBIS
I think what they meant to say was, "This process is (positive) reinforcement, it is NOT punishment."
@Richie Propster I think the issue that the previous person was trying to make is that this presenter said that it is about positive reinforcement not negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is typically misunderstood. Negative reinforcement involves removing an aversive stimulus (e.g., homework) in order to reward a desired behavior (e.g., excellent behavior). This video should say that PBIS focuses on reinforcement of desired behaviors instead of punishing for undesired behaviors.
Otherwise this is a great video.
Thank you!
If we reward students who are more or less doing what they should have been doing anyways we could be sending the wrong message so I'd say a lot of this is contextual. The biggest problem I see here is that students could expect rewards for doing simple things therefore lessening learner autonomy.
EXACTLY.
For most boys and some girls 🙄
Has the vocab changed or is it wrong? I've been teaching for 18 years and positive reinforcement used to mean "giving" (compliments, tokens, prizes, etc.) and negative reinforcement meant "taking away" (loss of recess, loss of privilege, pay a token, demerits, etc.)
Hello, negative reinforcement would be the removal of an aversive stimulus, such as taking away a detention because the student had shown up many times and behaved.
watched on 06/04/2020
Our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents didn't have anything like this, and they turned out much better developed than the over-medicated walking mental disorders you call students these days.
EXACTLY! It's all a bunch of horseshit when what IS required is a return to traditional, tried-and-true methodology!
@@ems3832 Not all old methods work. We forget how many power hungry teachers we have dealt with during our time.
I have tier 2
A combination of PBSI with punishment would be the best approach. If students are not punished early on they will grow up to become a part of our criminal justice system. Today, students have too many rights.
Where is your data?
I’ve never seen research that suggests behavior strategies that don’t implement punishment correlate with an increase in student-to-prison rates.
genuine question as we are trying to work on some things.
What should punishment look like in an elementary setting K-6
Correct. They no longer have a healthy fear of consequences and authority.
How is responsive intervention different from pbis
RA Daniel Harrell watched 6/4/2020
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does anyone watch this for fun? or is everyone here because of college
For fun
My kid's school is implementing PBIS this year so I'm watching it to understand what to expect. Not for college but not for fun either!
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