I believe the answer is probably fairly simple: intelligent life is incredibly rare, spatial and temporal distances are vast. That's it. We are likely not alone in the observable universe, but the chances of us observing another civilization are unfathomably small. Contact is even less likely. The EM / radio bubble that would allow any alien civilization to detect us is about 100 light years in radius. This is nothing. If we do end up wiping ourselfs out in the next couple of centuries (high likelyhood), then this bubble will become a shell, and only civilizations that happen to search for radio signals when this incredibly thin shell intersects their observational equipment will know of our existence. The same is true for us. There might be a few bubbles and shells like this, slowly expending and fading into the cosmos, but the chances of any one of them intersecting another civilization seem incredibly remote, even if both originate from within the same galaxy. If the speed of light really is a hard limit (which it certainly appears to be), then even a civilization high up in the Kardashev scale would need millions of years to travel beyond their own galaxy. I'm not at all surprised that we haven't seen anyone, and I'm not holding my breath, even though I'm sure there's something out there. They are simply too far away. I also believe that we are lucky that this is the way things are. If we did encounter another civilization, then they would almost certainly be far beyond our capability, and we would be completely at their mercy. At least now we can be the gods or destroyers of our own little pocket of space.
Your analysis and comments about this subject pretty much mirror my beliefs and opinions. Plus I found the statement from (Phil Morrison via Jill T) that looking at communicating/reaching other civilizations in terms of "colonization" somewhat disturbing. The "colonization" of the Americas by Europeans may be a good example of this. While North America is a technological, economic and democracy marvel, the impact on indigenous people has not been.
If they exist, my guess is they are a billion or two years more advanced. If they are a billion or two years more advanced, they might know everything they could ever possibly know about us and fundamentally have no reason or desire to interact with us. It's like asking why a scientist has never bothered to visit the algae at the bottom of the lake down the road from my house. (Because there isn't anything remarkable about that lake, and scientists already know everything interesting about algae generally--they don't need to visit that particular lake for any particular reason.)
It would be impossible. The two first generation of stars didn't have elements for life. And among planets orbiting stars with those elements; earth is between the 10% oldest.
MINEIRO - I am afraid your "10% oldest" data must be wrong. For one thing, new planets are being discovered every now and then and also, how could one possibly calculate the age of a distant planet? Bare in mind that a year ago it was discovered that almost everything we "thought we knew" about our neighbor Pluto proved to be shamefully wrong. Furthermore, the first few generations of stars occurred quite rapidly due to the density of matter in a much smaller space.
greyeyed123 - I quite agree with you. I frequently find the same careless precision even among renown "scientists". Notice that even Kuhn, whom I respect for his honesty and hard work, talks only about hundreds or even thousands of years in most of his interesting videos. A plus or minus billion year difference, would make an unimaginable and unpredictable difference, which these people seem not to notice. To tell you the truth, I regard their arguments remarkably childish and naïve. Lol
I dont accept the argument regarding advanced aliens not wanting to visit or contact us because they are bored of us etc. Life may be ubiquitous but sentience may be rare. The vast distances in the galaxy are just a huge barrier to communication. The earliest terrestrial transmissions are less than 100 years old, that's 100 light years of distance covered. The inverse square law also makes these transmissions extremely faint. Let's keep transmitting and searching and see what happens.
Agree with you that there's every possibility that there's intelligent life out there, but that the vastness of the universe prevents us from ever meeting each other. These people definitely sound a bit nutty.
Just imagine that another civilization similar to ours is flourishing on the other side of the milky way galaxy. This similar civilization would be over 100,000 light years away. Accordingly, a message from that civilization would take 100,000 years to reach earth. A howdy do reply and response would take 200,000 years. Does anyone think that we'll still be here in 1,000 years much less 1 or 200,000 years. What would be the purpose of contacting these other people? Communication would be nearly impossible due to the vast distances. We're all alone in reality whether or not there are other civilizations out there.
We only discovered radio waves a couple of hundred year ago, and now we think the whole universe use that for communication? Its like a primitive tribe discovering fire, and thinking all universe is communicating with smoke signals.
Not really. Radiowaves are still light waves and they are the fastest means of communication for that reason. So aliens would no doubt use some sort of electromagnetic communication if they exist.
Got to love it how people think there's some sort of 'sub space' transmission system to make FTL communication many times quicker or near instantaneous. And everyone else in the Galaxy \ Universe has discovered it except us.
rodovre you’re correct. The aliens don’t use radio waves to communicate. We know this already and SETI is a front for black op govt. spending. You should read “The Allies if humanity” it explains in detail what’s really going behind the vail of secrecy. If the sheeple don’t wake up very soon we’re all in for a real sh*t storm.
Superb point . It's quite possible that humankind has always been interested in making contact with the extraterrestrial world using the latest technology of the day , such as smoke signals, as you put it 😀
I think that once a civilisation is sufficiently advanced, they wont be interested in physical resources at all, only in knowledge. And the laws of physics being the same all over the observable universe, there is just no point in traveling, it will just be more of the same stuff that they already have at home. Also, if very long distance communication is possible at all, surely it will have to involve something else than radio waves.
Specifically thirst for knowledge would push them to explore the universe. The laws of physics might be the same, but using them may differ greatly. We can't create gravity, for example, while others might. Also, there may be laws that we still have to discover.
Fake_Blood you should read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings from an outsider perspective that is extremely interesting reading. Or you can pull it up on RUclips and listen to it. (I prefer the read over the AI voice)...
I used to think there must be many intelligent life forms in our galaxy but what’s confusing is we aren’t seeing them. Maybe we are the first or what may be more terrifying is we may be the last.
some thoughts of mine 1) everything that we know leads towards the fact that we can not travel faster than the speed of light. the amount of time that it would take for most of the universe to reach us is prohibitive, if not impossible 2) real wormholes seem very unlikely 3) if beings were out there, might they be so advanced that we could not discover them ? 4) if beings were out there that could travel vast distances to reach us, would they have any interest in us ? we might be so much less evolved, that we would bore them to tears
Jimmy Brice you sound just like the people in this video. Their still pondering something that millions of us already know for a fact. Do some research before you spout off at the mouth with nothing to say. If you still choose to be ignorant like these scientists than that’s your choice.
number 3 assumes that advanced beings want to hide. and number 4 talks to the idea of physical visits, not about transmissions. In the good old days of ham radio many people who did not buy a ticket to visit another nation loved to send messages essentially saying "I'm here".
@@kevindolan6697 It is because of the laws of physics, not because "some scientists" say so, that we can't travel faster than the speed of light. And it is true. We CAN'T travel faster than the speed of light.
@@donwheeler1208 Why do people like you think you are so much smarter than the scientists? Where is your degree in astrophysics? Did you spend years studying and researching the subject? I'm betting you are just spouting off your opinions without really knowing what you are talking about.
I think that the views of Nick Bostrom, Ray Kurzweil and Jared Diamond are more persuasive; That simple life is widespread throughout the galaxy, but that intelligent life (with the motor skills to create technology) is vanishingly rare and that we just might be the only technological civilization in the Milky Way- or perhaps the only one that has not yet destroyed itself
Opinion : We don't loose much by continuing our search. But at the rate we are advancing in all areas , theoretical and technologically, we should discover the answer within .....how long? ........maybe next 100 years. Until then Fermi's paradox is intriguing.
You’re going to find out shortly that she has been totally wrong for all her SETI career. The ‘Marco Rubio report’ coming out in June 2021. Hope she will have the good grace to admit it.
The assumption that galactic colonization would happen exponentially is a pretty big assumption, since we know nothing about the process. We don't know how expensive it is for advanced civilizations or how hard it is. It is possible some stars are totally unfit for colonization, and in that case you can end up surrounded by close-by stars that are not up for colonization putting a dent in the exponential model.
People often forget that there’s no guarantee that technology will continue advancing at an exponential rate. At some point, and we don’t yet know what that may be, we, or anyone, will run up against limits that simply can’t be exceeded. If that limit is reached below the threshold that would allow the scenarios that we see put forward, then it may never happen.
I would wonder if almost all civilizations would use avatars. It's how the universe, a hostile place for organisms, will meet each other. Great manifestations of life in durable avatar form..
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Had an experience about 4 years ago and trying to find out the logic of what I saw ever since. It was 4:30am I was walking the dogs and this light caught my eye. I was not looking up at the sky just simply walking and the thing (UFO) caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. The point is that the craft was so low in the sky, about 500 feet up. When I looked up for the first fraction of a second I thought it was a helicopter, it was coming down. The next fraction of the first second I thought it was a Jumbo Jet. I had no fear I think that because it was silent I had nothing to be frightened about. Then I saw a perfect round shiny craft. This is what was coming down on me. I watched then it stopped and moved away towards the north of me. I could no longer see it as trees were blocking my view. I cannot get it out of my head to this day. It is the worst thing to happen to anyone as I don't know how much time I have wasted looking for answers. I have this thought that these craft do not fly into our world. They come from another dimension. If you can see it but can't hear it, does it exist? If you can see it so low in the sky but don't hear a whoosh of the air being blown when it fly’s away then does it exist? I guess the craft has to come from a different dimension as it has properties that do not make sense in this world. At least I know these craft exist and suppose will take that to my grave.
What makes you think that wasn't a manmade craft? Stealth tech hides the engine exhaust and I believe noise. UAV can operate pretty darn quiet. What was it that we couldn't achieve?
It is possible that they have a prime directive to not interfere with emerging civilizations. Perhaps they've seen the 3 Stooges episodes in the historical documents, and have decided humans need more time to develop.
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Come on folks, Aliens probably zoom pass Earth all the time. First they roll-up their windows, then lock the docks, and finally get the hell away as fast as they can!
The argument from the bigness of space is pretty convincing. They're not here because the whole joint is so big that no matter where they started from, it's pretty unlikely they'd end up *here*. The big problem with all these arguments, though, is what makes anybody think they're not here? At Los Alamos, when this Fermi version of it came up, the ready answer was "It's the Hungarians." I.e. of course they're here. Wey-yull. Yes and no. The logic is sound, but it's the Welsh and the Dinka. -dlj.
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If we assume that we are the first life to reach this level of technological advancement then there is nothing to be confused about, we're simply alone - for now. Most planets and moons are extremely hostile to any sort of life, so the set of planets and moons that could host life is actually very tiny. It's not a number in the 100s of billions or trillions at all. And of those that could host life, few have evolved multicellular life. There's so many ways to make a life form but so few ways to make an intelligent one. And this is why we are probably the first of our kind.
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The aliens have been, and left. They didn't like the joint! What kind of intergalactic tourist attraction amidst the marvels of the universe is a polluted planet with inhabitants who can't get along with each other. If anything, the aliens have quarantined earth just in case what we have is catching.
in my cattle post here in Africa in Botswana i sometimes see huge bright light in a circular form above the sky blinking...i always ignore it thinking that may it could an alien …..so it could be...?
@@ononofilebafisi9031 the best you can do to solve this is to alert as many people as possible, and the authorities. They have the resources to investigate... if they aren't the ones causing it for military or espionage purposes lol.
When did we venture into space ? 60 years ago. When did we start sending radio signals ? 150 years ago. When did we start to even fly ? 1903.....we're not that advanced and have barely a century of worthwhile technology to show for it. We can't even get man to Mars yet -yet alone have the slightest clue how to travel through space safely for any amount of time. Does the word "Arrogant" mean anything to anyone ? If we can't talk to Dolphins, how can we hope to chat to ET ?
There are so many good arguments for and against intelligent life beyond earth. I find myself agreeing with both sides at times. I think life is everywhere but I do think intelligent life is rare. WTF do I know ?
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As far as I know radio transmissions become so faint after a few light years they are practically undetectable, unless the source is an event of colosal magnitude.
While it's true that an alien civilization wouldn't necessarily have the same motivations we have at some point we do have to try to make some good educated guesses. One thing we know from the study of the evolution of life on our planet is that a self preservation instinct is a good thing to have. Imagine a species that doesn't care if it lives or dies. Does it seem likely that such a species would last long enough to develope a technologically advanced civilization? I would think such a species would go extinct long before they even develop language. So if we assume that any technologically advanced civilization out there would have a self preservation instinct and we can also assume that a technologically advanced civilization would also be aware that all stars have finite life spans then we can also assume they would realize that colonizing other worlds is necessary if they want their species to outlive their own sun.
I'm with you, lets say we come to be a human species that is able to view progress of hundreds, thousands, or even millions of developing species. I think one criteria for making contact with others would be to wait until they progressed into a species that at least took the step to colonize some of their extended solar system thereby displaying they were likely to be in the game for longer than the next space rock or nuclear war ended them. Why waste all the work we put into the welcome wagon packet on a bunch of losers.
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an argument i have against the "stay at home" idea is that its ethically questionable. its like living in a 1st world country and not helping the rest of the world. if a civilization reaches a point where they have such advancement, they would know we're over here destroying the environment, committing genocides, etc. an additional supposition is that they'd likely be ethical to have cooperated to reach their advancement. and like 1st world countries, would visit and help us.
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SETI is a waste of time and money.. but it has to be shown that we are searching for ETs that we are doing something...and in actual fact they are already here and have been here for long time.
I agree......SETI amounts to a disinformation project. Myself and some co-workers had a very close-up encounter with a large craft, in 1994. If this old man, sitting in my den in Michigan, knows we're being visited so does the Untied States government. I have wondered, at times, if aliens have threatened governments not to release this info......who knows...???
If they are here they would have had to figure out how to travel more than 10 times the speed of light which I think is impossible no matter how highly advanced they are.
@@ponytrekker9315 Right......because a race of beings couldn't exist which could do things which modern, human beings view as impossible. You know this, correct? Okay. Thanks for your input, Einstein.
It makes sense what they are saying, that advanced ET civilizations haven't colonized other planets because they are wise enough to know that such colonization by a replicating species is ultimately bad for that species by destroying the diversity or potential diversity that exists on other planets, and maybe all such advanced civilizations coordinate with each other and have agreed to bound by some kind of "prime directive" that prohibits making contact with less advanced civilizations like those on Earth.
I suspect it's a whole lot harder to travel through interstellar space than sci-fi authors have given us to believe. It may well be that there simply are no extraterrestrial intelligences out there at all.
Maybe other life is living among us now. We only take up a miniscule amount of space and understand hardly any of the environment we live in. Our brains may not be as intelligent as we assume.
I think an actual intelligent species simply has different ideas about what is important and what is not from our ideas. They might be focused on supporting every living being, sharing wealth, healthcare, making education free, perhaps evolving systems in which financial concerns are not considered of prime importance. They might not even have such a thing as finance.
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Ariel School 1994, very, very, close encounter. This entire conversation is absurd based on what happened that day in 1994 at Ariel. Wake up and open your mind, "they" are here!
Exactly. Absolute waste of time. They are here. Nordics, grey, etc There is evidence. And at Ariel all those children are not lying. It just seems v hard for people to accept.
Who's out there among the billions of planets? We are. What's on the "other" side of a black hole? We are. We are them. We are the alien. I think it's neat, don't you?
Other more advanced civilizations would not waste time with us. To them, we would be a bleak reminder of a not-so-similar past. If one wanted to visit or learn from our planet, they would do it without anybody knowing or do so from a distance as to either avoid disruption or to avoid potential contamination. And if a civilization were advanced enough to find us in the first place, it could also be capable of traversing reality as we know it through the likes of interdimensional travel and may have transcended long ago. We may also be one of many civilizations that are on a similar time scale with whom are also premature in space exploration.
Laced Mindu stop speculating and learn what’s really going on. Read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings explaining what we’re really up against as a species. If the sheeple don’t wake up soon we’re all in for a real sh*t storm. I’ve been researching this for 7 years ever since my first sighting and I had all the pieces to the puzzle but was lacking the big picture. Now that I’ve read this info I finally have it. It would be in your interest to take this information seriously or face the alternative. And the alternative is unthinkable.
I wouldn't even bother to search for extraterrestrial life. More importantly, I would concentrate on reducing suffering on our own planet. Technology is likely to continue to advance and some kind of super AI will make a decision to search or not, or even whether humans are relevant.
It's possible humans are the only sentient beings in the entire universe. Considering the number of stars and planets it seems highly unlikely but you could be correct. We may be totally alone.
It could be that human type life is so common not only throughout the milky way, but throughout the entire universe that we are nothing special. Like grass on Earth. You could travel down the highway and see grass everywhere but why would you stop to examine one particular patch?
How strong should an (original) extra galactic signal be for us to to be able to detect it? That is a key question that we may not even know the answer yet. I certainly don't but don't expect to ever know (even though I would like to know). And even if we do know, how is anyone going to find out? Asking SETI would probably be the dest way. Maybe I could arrange an interview with a SETI person. It's an important question (even if we don't have the answer) cos it seems that if intelligent life is out there why isn't there any signals? Why aren't there a lot of alien like signals? Maybe it's cos the signal strength that we have is NOT detectable from other galaxies. And maybe the alien signals aren't strong enough for us to detect them. And maybe there is not signal producing aliens in every galaxy (and maybe only one in our's). That is one explanation we don't get signals form aliens in our galaxy. The second thing goes back to my original question. I suppose it depends on how strong the original signal is. Even one single galaxy is huge. If Pluto's ORBIT was scaled down to 1 mm, our galaxy would be 100 km diam (on the same scale).
The key is always to keep an open mind, to not shove your belief into view as the only view. The truth is we have absolutely no idea what's going on out there. And again people always forget how vast space time is. Average human life of 70 years....earths age - 70 billions years. First human civilizations around 5-10,000 years ago, that leaves a whole lot of time with out us knowing a thing.
simon page you should read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings that describes in detail what’s happening to our world and why from an outsider perspective.
Don Wheeler I do tell everyone I know that ufos are real. I’m not scared to do that, but it is too much for people to accept. I fully understand that. I mean, it is unbelievable, even though it’s true. There is no footage of ufos of aliens that you could show someone to make them believe. Just how it is.
simon page this is one of the vids that confirmed their presence in space. (for me anyway). Don’t know how to post a link with my phone but search RUclips:) “NEW SHOCKING NASA UOF FOOTAGE” and the channel name “Autograghhere” the footage speaks for itself! Others will pick it to death but I know you”ll appreciate it.
It does seem absurd until you realise how quickly the big numbers reduce when the constraint filters are applied because they're big numbers too. Life evolving is one thing. Intelligent life is a big leap from that, and intelligent life that can traverse the galaxy is a few more big leaps. We may be the only intelligent life we ever discover, the others simply too distant to ever enable observation or communication.
@@dplouro dolphins are intelligent, but they cannot build spacecraft. Or you could have a plant that does produce intelligent life capable of some technology, but never enough to leave the surface of their planet. Not enough mineable ores is one possibility. Even we wouldn't be here except for an asteroid impact 65 million years ago. Those big numbers get small quickly; it's exponential growth in reverse.
There are a lot of variables in the Drake equation which are unknown. Recent observations regarding exoplanets indicate that most stars have planets. The next step is to do spectroscopic analysis of exoplanets to seek evidence of biospheres. Then we scan these planets more intensely for communication signals and send probes. In all likelihood, primitive life akin to bacteria is common, life akin to early multicellular organisms uncommon and advanced technological civilisations extremely rare.
John Geier you couldn’t be more wrong. The universe is teeming with intelligent life. I’ve personally seen over twenty five of these things and captured a handful on video. Click on me to see! Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time” They are here and their watching us.
It wouldn't be the first time that humans have overestimated their intelligence. I am sure that far more advanced life will have ways of communicating and/or existing that we cannot conceive of yet. I don't think we are that rare. We don't even know a lot about what happens at the bottom of our own oceans or if other forms of existence are possible in seemingly uninhabitable places. It is exciting to think about.
Humans are the first species out of 10,000,000 to have ever existed on this planet to be potentially capable of interstellar travel or communication. So wouldn’t it reason that of every 10,000,000 planets with life, only 1 has the means to communicate through the stars?
It could be we are completely alone in our galaxy. Life if it exists on other worlds may only be microscopic bacteria. Intelligence could be so rare that we could be the first in the universe. Imagine the notion that we are the only life that can behold the enormity of the cosmos. Food for thought.
How long would it take an intelligent alien civilization disposed to explore galaxy to come to the earth from 10 light years away, 100 light years away, 1000 light years away and so on?
Surely the sheer distances make it less likely that we have physical visitors as the energy needed is too high for them to spend on just meeting the neigbours. What would be the incentive to coming here? Only curiosity, if they are more advanced than us. If we ever get to interstellar exploration we'll choose the nearest likely habitable places first, so maybe we are too far away for the present. They may of course be communicating with us but we don't understand the message.
@@donwheeler1208 What evidence? If it was "overwhelming" then we would be overwhelmed but I feel distinctly underwhelmed at present. I don't count you tube videos as research either.
Brian Morton stay closed minded if you wish! But your children and their children will pay for your ignorance. I had my first encounter about 7 years ago. And since then I look up a lot more and I have seen over twenty five of these things and captured a handful on video. Click on me to see! Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time” Please let me know what you think! Once you can know for a fact that their here the next question is why? And that rabbit hole goes miles deep. There is a publication that describes in great detail what’s going on in our world with the ET presence on earth. But unfortunately for people like you who don’t have a clue it will just seem like fiction. For those in the know (like me) this information resonates very deeply. I just came across this set of briefings aimed at the people of earth a couple of days ago and I could not stop reading it. Not knowing your background I don’t know how you’ll react to this information but I will give the name anyway. It’s called “The Allies of Humanity” you can pull it up on RUclips and listen to it but the read is better than the AI voice in my opinion. Since you asked me “what evidence”? I sense you are new and uneducated about this subject. So I’ll stop here because this is most likely a waste of time for me. Good luck take care.
@@donwheeler1208 You didn't read what I said. Perhaps they are talking to us but in a lnaguage we don't understand. I don't think that's being closed minded at all, but I still don't value you tube videos as evidence. As an amateur astronomer I have seen plenty of UFOs but never any proved to be alien intelligences. Some accounts are also almost convincing but and it's a large but, not quite sufficient. Unfortunately people get too excited to properly evaluate evidence and it comes down to a belief, then the evidence gets skewed to bolster that belief, but that's human nature. By the way it's not nice to open with threatening comments, don't do it, it doesn'e enhance your argument one iota and simply demeans you.
Brian Morton sorry I didn’t mean to be condescending but for someone to ask what evidence? Just means to me that they have done no research but still ask stupid questions like that. I see evidence everywhere. Like Roswell, project bluebook, the show Ancient Aliens, WWII pilots called them foo fighters, thousands of Mufon cases, the Bob Lazar story, the battle of Los Angeles, the visits to the capital in 1954 lasted two week-ends, hundreds if not thousands of military encounters, the movie documentary unacknowledged by Dr. Steven Greer, thousands of abduction cases, millions of sightings around the world, Crop circles, and that’s the short list! So honestly with just that, for someone to ask “what evidence”? is just insulting....! If you want to know that’s great but do some real research before you ask dumb questions. And it’s a shame you reject anything on RUclips but If you want more detailed descriptions of some of what I mentioned then seek out Richard Dolan (top investigative journalist). And he’s just one of many. After all that, if you still want to deny that’s both your prerogative and your mistake!
If there were civilizations like the Inca's or Roman Empire on a nearby planet, they would never know we were trying to communicate with them. Many high level civilizations never were able to develop technology. Our own civilization didn't develop it until the last few hundred years.
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Dr. Robert Lawrence Kuhn, I want to thank you for these mind-openings videos. I have viewed many oh God, non-God, on physics, on consciousness, on the brain... but now I am following a few of this videos on Alien existence. What surprises me is that NONE of the persons interviewed speaks of this Existence as being true. Now, what boggles my mind is that though there are thousands and thousands of pages on such Alien existence, not one of your guests believes in Aliens. There are others professionals who analyze Abductions. There are implants. But not one of your guests cannot consider ridiculous such things. All the countries (or most) have made public documentation on such Alien existence. So why is it that NONE of your guests mentions or takes seriously this Situation? On the one hand, there has been contact; and on the other, there is NO Alien existence. I find, both as a scholar and as an uneducated person, this incongruity troubling. Why not interview some Doctors who have info on such experiences? They won't sound more foolish than we believers of God.
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Aliens could be within 50 light years of us and we wouldn’t be able to detect them - aliens could be within 6 light years of us, and we wouldn’t be able to them. All we could ‘hear’ would be the radiation from their sun, but there are, like, 10 good reasons conjured as to why we see no aliens. Of all the reasons listed, the most likely reason we haven’t detected aliens is that something has killed them.
Well laughing is a human reaction. Don't expect them to be like us. Remember they've grown up in a different world and are therefore biologically different from us.
A quarter of a millennia ago, we had no idea that electromagnetic radiation existed, or how to manipulate it. Though we could see it all around us, and it existed long before our species, or even life itself, existed. Now, we are convinced, that the EM band is the lingua franca of all communications in the cosmos. I suggest that mature extraterrestrial civilizations may well use some form of communication, to which we are completely oblivious. It certainly would be convenient to communicate without having to deal with speed of light limitations, or that pesky inverse square law. Such seemingly magical technologies may exist, perhaps we will simply not discover them for another 500 years. At which time, the blaring cacophony of galactic communications will suddenly become apparent to solve the mystery of our previous isolation.
Given the fact that very basic, primitive life existed upon Earth for some 3,000,000,000 years before complexity arose only some 535.000,000 years ago (this being the Cambrian Explosion), I am inclined to believe that the biggest filter to intelligent life evolving is that a Cambrian Explosion event is very rare in the Cosmos. We still don't know why it happened here, nor why it took so long to happen. I am inclined to believe that we are alone, in the Milky Way galaxy, because nowhere else in our home galaxy did complex life ever happen at all. Or maybe something similar to the following suggestion commonly happens instead. Let's say an Alien civilization, consisting of Vorlons perhaps, creates robots whose first three laws are... 1) *_A robot may not injure a Vorlon or, through inaction, allow a Vorlon to come to harm._* 2) *_A robot must obey orders given it by Vorlons except where such orders would conflict with the First Law._* 3) *_A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law._* These robots then go out and explore the Galaxy before the Vorlons leave their home world. In accordance with the first law, whenever the robots encounter non-Vorlon sentient life (such as us humans),... they exterminate it as it's not Vorlon and *_it may represent a threat to the Vorlons._* This is why there are no sentient aliens ever encountered in Isaac Asimov's Galaxy. The robots, dutifully obeying the first law, have exterminated all non-native sentient life they have ever encountered because such life may represent a possible threat to the only form of sentient life they have ever known and have loyalty towards!! Basically, the three laws of robotics *MANDATES* that any sentient's robots act as Berserkers with regard to every other form of non-native sentient life!?!? How's that for unintended consequences?!?! But, really, how viable would a first rule of robotics be if it say instead *_A robot may not injure a sentient entity or, through inaction, allow a sentient entity to come to harm._* Would it allow us to eat animals then? What about eating octopuses? Dolphins? What happens if an Orca is attacking a human? or a Gorilla? or another sentient machine? I am only being somewhat facetious with these examples,.. but we could extend this reasoning forever,... couldn't we?
@@vspock4251 Consider how common the unquestioned assumption is that a sentient species will always want to colonize new worlds as fast as possible,.. and yet we see absolutely no evidence of this?!? Maybe instead newly arising sentient species invent very satisfying virtual environments to explore which takes the place of any wish to actually go on through with the blood & turmoil of actually going out into space itself. Maybe everyone finds it's simply easier to masturbate than to actually propagate?
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We can't rule out...okay, but the universe is estimated to be 13.8 billion years old. Earth is only 4.6 billion years old and we have only had a technologically advanced civilization for less than 100 years. The early universe and Earth were not hospitable to life. Let's give this another 100,000 years for really advanced civilizations to cover the immense distances.
It could be as how the quantum particles behave - every situation is possible - so maybe we live in a world where we are the only ones & in other universes there are quite a lot of species
Interesting but still speculation upon speculation. It is difficult to think like an alien, who may or may not have totally different motivation for colonising the Universe.
My feeling is that the reality of this topic is probably jaw dropping. I think we would find that it’s not only vastly more profound, with celestial beings interacting with humans as well as higher density ET beings, but that we are a part of it. We are participants.
after listening more to Jill - I take back my comment - she is spot on - we think we know more than we really do
2030matrix I get them on video here in Virginia. Click on me to see. Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time”.
This is by far the most informative and educational channel on RUclips...... In my humble opinion.
Completely agree. An open-minded attempt at understanding. Also in my humble opinion. :)
I believe the answer is probably fairly simple: intelligent life is incredibly rare, spatial and temporal distances are vast. That's it.
We are likely not alone in the observable universe, but the chances of us observing another civilization are unfathomably small. Contact is even less likely.
The EM / radio bubble that would allow any alien civilization to detect us is about 100 light years in radius. This is nothing. If we do end up wiping ourselfs out in the next couple of centuries (high likelyhood), then this bubble will become a shell, and only civilizations that happen to search for radio signals when this incredibly thin shell intersects their observational equipment will know of our existence. The same is true for us. There might be a few bubbles and shells like this, slowly expending and fading into the cosmos, but the chances of any one of them intersecting another civilization seem incredibly remote, even if both originate from within the same galaxy.
If the speed of light really is a hard limit (which it certainly appears to be), then even a civilization high up in the Kardashev scale would need millions of years to travel beyond their own galaxy.
I'm not at all surprised that we haven't seen anyone, and I'm not holding my breath, even though I'm sure there's something out there.
They are simply too far away.
I also believe that we are lucky that this is the way things are.
If we did encounter another civilization, then they would almost certainly be far beyond our capability, and we would be completely at their mercy.
At least now we can be the gods or destroyers of our own little pocket of space.
Well said.
Best comment I've read regarding ET in years
Your analysis and comments about this subject pretty much mirror my beliefs and opinions.
Plus I found the statement from (Phil Morrison via Jill T) that looking at communicating/reaching other civilizations in terms of "colonization" somewhat disturbing.
The "colonization" of the Americas by Europeans may be a good example of this. While North America is a technological, economic and democracy marvel, the impact on indigenous people has not been.
If they exist, my guess is they are a billion or two years more advanced. If they are a billion or two years more advanced, they might know everything they could ever possibly know about us and fundamentally have no reason or desire to interact with us. It's like asking why a scientist has never bothered to visit the algae at the bottom of the lake down the road from my house. (Because there isn't anything remarkable about that lake, and scientists already know everything interesting about algae generally--they don't need to visit that particular lake for any particular reason.)
It would be impossible. The two first generation of stars didn't have elements for life. And among planets orbiting stars with those elements; earth is between the 10% oldest.
MINEIRO - I am afraid your "10% oldest" data must be wrong. For one thing, new planets are being discovered every now and then and also, how could one possibly calculate the age of a distant planet? Bare in mind that a year ago it was discovered that almost everything we "thought we knew" about our neighbor Pluto proved to be shamefully wrong. Furthermore, the first few generations of stars occurred quite rapidly due to the density of matter in a much smaller space.
greyeyed123 - I quite agree with you. I frequently find the same careless precision even among renown "scientists". Notice that even Kuhn, whom I respect for his honesty and hard work, talks only about hundreds or even thousands of years in most of his interesting videos. A plus or minus billion year difference, would make an unimaginable and unpredictable difference, which these people seem not to notice. To tell you the truth, I regard their arguments remarkably childish and naïve. Lol
I dont accept the argument regarding advanced aliens not wanting to visit or contact us because they are bored of us etc. Life may be ubiquitous but sentience may be rare. The vast distances in the galaxy are just a huge barrier to communication. The earliest terrestrial transmissions are less than 100 years old, that's 100 light years of distance covered. The inverse square law also makes these transmissions extremely faint. Let's keep transmitting and searching and see what happens.
They may like to spread knowledge or their star is dying
the universe is just too big. there maybe dozens of civilizations out there, each looking for other life, but we each are too far away from each other
Agree with you that there's every possibility that there's intelligent life out there, but that the vastness of the universe prevents us from ever meeting each other. These people definitely sound a bit nutty.
Just imagine that another civilization similar to ours is flourishing on the other side of the milky way galaxy. This similar civilization would be over 100,000 light years away. Accordingly, a message from that civilization would take 100,000 years to reach earth. A howdy do reply and response would take 200,000 years. Does anyone think that we'll still be here in 1,000 years much less 1 or 200,000 years. What would be the purpose of contacting these other people? Communication would be nearly impossible due to the vast distances. We're all alone in reality whether or not there are other civilizations out there.
Probably way more than a dozen... more like quadrillions of advanced civilizations in the Universe.
@@brudno1333 Well then how the hell did Mork call Orson if it takes that long.
Jesse G wrong wrong wrong! You don’t have a clue! Their here and have been for quite some time. The evidence is so overwhelming it’s silly.
We only discovered radio waves a couple of hundred year ago, and now we think the whole universe use that for communication? Its like a primitive tribe discovering fire, and thinking all universe is communicating with smoke signals.
Not really. Radiowaves are still light waves and they are the fastest means of communication for that reason. So aliens would no doubt use some sort of electromagnetic communication if they exist.
Got to love it how people think there's some sort of 'sub space' transmission system to make FTL communication many times quicker or near instantaneous. And everyone else in the Galaxy \ Universe has discovered it except us.
If they have discovered a faster means of communication than light, it only makes the fermi paradox worse anyhow.
rodovre you’re correct. The aliens don’t use radio waves to communicate. We know this already and SETI is a front for black op govt. spending.
You should read “The Allies if humanity” it explains in detail what’s really going behind the vail of secrecy.
If the sheeple don’t wake up very soon we’re all in for a real sh*t storm.
Superb point . It's quite possible that humankind has always been interested in making contact with the extraterrestrial world using the latest technology of the day , such as smoke signals, as you put it 😀
Have you ever noticed that you never see Jill Tarter and David Icke in the same place at the same time?
@Superior No1 They kind of look like the same person. (I was joking)
ZnenTitan you read my mind 😂
Yes, she is a younger version of David Icke!
I'm betting within the vastness of the universe most intelligent civilizations are entirely happy staying at home.
Human beings all did the opposite. Why would other intelligent civilizations stay at home?
@@TheBushdoctor68 because they are as you stated intelligent civilizations.
@@jmazz1127 That just doesn't make any sense. Intelligence isn't obtained by sitting on your butt. It's gathered by exploration.
they stay at home because they know how to communicate and experience things using paranormal devices
Or they have replaced themselves with their own inorganic machines and lack the curiosity to explore.
I think that once a civilisation is sufficiently advanced, they wont be interested in physical resources at all, only in knowledge. And the laws of physics being the same all over the observable universe, there is just no point in traveling, it will just be more of the same stuff that they already have at home. Also, if very long distance communication is possible at all, surely it will have to involve something else than radio waves.
Specifically thirst for knowledge would push them to explore the universe. The laws of physics might be the same, but using them may differ greatly. We can't create gravity, for example, while others might. Also, there may be laws that we still have to discover.
Fake_Blood you should read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings from an outsider perspective that is extremely interesting reading.
Or you can pull it up on RUclips and listen to it. (I prefer the read over the AI voice)...
Love her argument, One of the best I've heard on this subject yet...
I used to think there must be many intelligent life forms in our galaxy but what’s confusing is we aren’t seeing them. Maybe we are the first or what may be more terrifying is we may be the last.
some thoughts of mine
1) everything that we know leads towards the fact that we can not travel faster than the speed of light. the amount of time that it would take for most of the universe to reach us is prohibitive, if not impossible
2) real wormholes seem very unlikely
3) if beings were out there, might they be so advanced that we could not discover them ?
4) if beings were out there that could travel vast distances to reach us, would they have any interest in us ? we might be so much less evolved, that we would bore them to tears
Just because some scientists said we can't travel faster then the speed of light,you believe it.
Jimmy Brice you sound just like the people in this video. Their still pondering something that millions of us already know for a fact. Do some research before you spout off at the mouth with nothing to say. If you still choose to be ignorant like these scientists than that’s your choice.
number 3 assumes that advanced beings want to hide. and number 4 talks to the idea of physical visits, not about transmissions. In the good old days of ham radio many people who did not buy a ticket to visit another nation loved to send messages essentially saying "I'm here".
@@kevindolan6697 It is because of the laws of physics, not because "some scientists" say so, that we can't travel faster than the speed of light. And it is true. We CAN'T travel faster than the speed of light.
@@donwheeler1208 Why do people like you think you are so much smarter than the scientists? Where is your degree in astrophysics? Did you spend years studying and researching the subject? I'm betting you are just spouting off your opinions without really knowing what you are talking about.
I think that the views of Nick Bostrom, Ray Kurzweil and Jared Diamond are more persuasive; That simple life is widespread throughout the galaxy, but that intelligent life (with the motor skills to create technology) is vanishingly rare and that we just might be the only technological civilization in the Milky Way- or perhaps the only one that has not yet destroyed itself
Opinion : We don't loose much by continuing our search. But at the rate we are advancing in all areas , theoretical and technologically, we should discover the answer within .....how long? ........maybe next 100 years. Until then Fermi's paradox is intriguing.
This lady really thinks out of the box, love it.
You’re going to find out shortly that she has been totally wrong for all her SETI career. The ‘Marco Rubio report’ coming out in June 2021. Hope she will have the good grace to admit it.
No, she doesn't. She is actually VERY close minded, a denialist, even.
The assumption that galactic colonization would happen exponentially is a pretty big assumption, since we know nothing about the process. We don't know how expensive it is for advanced civilizations or how hard it is. It is possible some stars are totally unfit for colonization, and in that case you can end up surrounded by close-by stars that are not up for colonization putting a dent in the exponential model.
I am completely in awe of Jill Tarter.
You are a fucking moron and can't think beyond what you are told to think.
Julia Read ....disclosure of alien visitations starts to roll out through Tom DeLonge and the ‘to the stars academy’ ...still in awe?
Me too.
@@cody6469 You know your rude comment was a personal message to yourself from your subconscious, don't you?
@@cody6469 And your degree is in....?
People often forget that there’s no guarantee that technology will continue advancing at an exponential rate. At some point, and we don’t yet know what that may be, we, or anyone, will run up against limits that simply can’t be exceeded. If that limit is reached below the threshold that would allow the scenarios that we see put forward, then it may never happen.
Another brill video from this channel.
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I would wonder if almost all civilizations would use avatars. It's how the universe, a hostile place for organisms, will meet each other. Great manifestations of life in durable avatar form..
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
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Had an experience about 4 years ago and trying to find out the logic of what I saw ever since.
It was 4:30am I was walking the dogs and this light caught my eye. I was not looking up at the sky just simply walking and the thing (UFO) caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. The point is that the craft was so low in the sky, about 500 feet up. When I looked up for the first fraction of a second I thought it was a helicopter, it was coming down. The next fraction of the first second I thought it was a Jumbo Jet. I had no fear I think that because it was silent I had nothing to be frightened about. Then I saw a perfect round shiny craft. This is what was coming down on me. I watched then it stopped and moved away towards the north of me. I could no longer see it as trees were blocking my view. I cannot get it out of my head to this day. It is the worst thing to happen to anyone as I don't know how much time I have wasted looking for answers. I have this thought that these craft do not fly into our world. They come from another dimension. If you can see it but can't hear it, does it exist? If you can see it so low in the sky but don't hear a whoosh of the air being blown when it fly’s away then does it exist? I guess the craft has to come from a different dimension as it has properties that do not make sense in this world. At least I know these craft exist and suppose will take that to my grave.
Another dimension probably makes more sense.
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What makes you think that wasn't a manmade craft? Stealth tech hides the engine exhaust and I believe noise. UAV can operate pretty darn quiet. What was it that we couldn't achieve?
Thank you for your channel. Very edifying.
It is possible that they have a prime directive to not interfere with emerging civilizations. Perhaps they've seen the 3 Stooges episodes in the historical documents, and have decided humans need more time to develop.
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
they probably seen ,,the governor'' with lenny mclean and decide to not contact with us .this is just my theory
Come on folks, Aliens probably zoom pass Earth all the time. First they roll-up their windows, then lock the docks, and finally get the hell away as fast as they can!
The argument from the bigness of space is pretty convincing. They're not here because the whole joint is so big that no matter where they started from, it's pretty unlikely they'd end up *here*.
The big problem with all these arguments, though, is what makes anybody think they're not here?
At Los Alamos, when this Fermi version of it came up, the ready answer was "It's the Hungarians." I.e. of course they're here.
Wey-yull. Yes and no. The logic is sound, but it's the Welsh and the Dinka.
-dlj.
I actually giggled internally when i read this ;)
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
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The aliens are already here. They cross over the border from Mexico. Lol
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If we assume that we are the first life to reach this level of technological advancement then there is nothing to be confused about, we're simply alone - for now. Most planets and moons are extremely hostile to any sort of life, so the set of planets and moons that could host life is actually very tiny. It's not a number in the 100s of billions or trillions at all. And of those that could host life, few have evolved multicellular life. There's so many ways to make a life form but so few ways to make an intelligent one. And this is why we are probably the first of our kind.
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
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The aliens have been, and left. They didn't like the joint! What kind of intergalactic tourist attraction amidst the marvels of the universe is a polluted planet with inhabitants who can't get along with each other. If anything, the aliens have quarantined earth just in case what we have is catching.
Lol, in case greediness and thirst for power is contagious..
in my cattle post here in Africa in Botswana i sometimes see huge bright light in a circular form above the sky blinking...i always ignore it thinking that may it could an alien …..so it could be...?
@@ononofilebafisi9031 the best you can do to solve this is to alert as many people as possible, and the authorities. They have the resources to investigate... if they aren't the ones causing it for military or espionage purposes lol.
Maybe aliens view us the same way we view microscopic bacteria. Hopefully they will not show up with a giant bottle of pine sol.
When did we venture into space ? 60 years ago. When did we start sending radio signals ? 150 years ago. When did we start to even fly ? 1903.....we're not that advanced and have barely a century of worthwhile technology to show for it. We can't even get man to Mars yet -yet alone have the slightest clue how to travel through space safely for any amount of time. Does the word "Arrogant" mean anything to anyone ? If we can't talk to Dolphins, how can we hope to chat to ET ?
Sure we can talk to dolphins, it's kind of a one way conversation but nothing is stopping us from doing it.
I wonder How long will it take before we give up trying to find other life within our universe.?
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There are so many good arguments for and against intelligent life beyond earth. I find myself agreeing with both sides at times. I think life is everywhere but I do think intelligent life is rare. WTF do I know ?
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
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I thot that was David icke for a split second
Frankie McConalogue i clicked this video because I that she was David Icke!
As far as I know radio transmissions become so faint after a few light years they are practically undetectable, unless the source is an event of colosal magnitude.
the inverse square law... and given the signal strength that is petty weak once the radio waves get out there.
Yes. Radio SETI is only capable of looking for gigantic "hello" beacons.
We have barely even looked around.
And what's the point of 'Looking Around'? Life is going on just fine without Looking to invite INTERGALACTIC GATE-CRASHERS to the Party.
While it's true that an alien civilization wouldn't necessarily have the same motivations we have at some point we do have to try to make some good educated guesses.
One thing we know from the study of the evolution of life on our planet is that a self preservation instinct is a good thing to have. Imagine a species that doesn't care if it lives or dies. Does it seem likely that such a species would last long enough to develope a technologically advanced civilization? I would think such a species would go extinct long before they even develop language.
So if we assume that any technologically advanced civilization out there would have a self preservation instinct and we can also assume that a technologically advanced civilization would also be aware that all stars have finite life spans then we can also assume they would realize that colonizing other worlds is necessary if they want their species to outlive their own sun.
I'm with you, lets say we come to be a human species that is able to view progress of hundreds, thousands, or even millions of developing species. I think one criteria for making contact with others would be to wait until they progressed into a species that at least took the step to colonize some of their extended solar system thereby displaying they were likely to be in the game for longer than the next space rock or nuclear war ended them. Why waste all the work we put into the welcome wagon packet on a bunch of losers.
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3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
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an argument i have against the "stay at home" idea is that its ethically questionable. its like living in a 1st world country and not helping the rest of the world. if a civilization reaches a point where they have such advancement, they would know we're over here destroying the environment, committing genocides, etc. an additional supposition is that they'd likely be ethical to have cooperated to reach their advancement. and like 1st world countries, would visit and help us.
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2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions.
3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
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SETI is a waste of time and money.. but it has to be shown that we are searching for ETs that we are doing something...and in actual fact they are already here and have been here for long time.
I agree......SETI amounts to a disinformation project. Myself and some co-workers had a very close-up encounter with a large craft, in 1994. If this old man, sitting in my den in Michigan, knows we're being visited so does the Untied States government. I have wondered, at times, if aliens have threatened governments not to release this info......who knows...???
If they are here they would have had to figure out how to travel more than 10 times the speed of light which I think is impossible no matter how highly advanced they are.
@@ponytrekker9315 the word impossible only exists in dictionary for fools..😁😁
@@ponytrekker9315 Right......because a race of beings couldn't exist which could do things which modern, human beings view as impossible. You know this, correct? Okay. Thanks for your input, Einstein.
Guy Merritt Obviously I don’t know that as a fact it’s just my opinion.. Einstein.
It makes sense what they are saying, that advanced ET civilizations haven't colonized other planets because they are wise enough to know that such colonization by a replicating species is ultimately bad for that species by destroying the diversity or potential diversity that exists on other planets, and maybe all such advanced civilizations coordinate with each other and have agreed to bound by some kind of "prime directive" that prohibits making contact with less advanced civilizations like those on Earth.
There's A Star man waiting in the sky, he'd like to come and see us, but he'd probably blow our minds
David. Bowie/Icke
I wonder if aliens use or know what money is. Maybe instead they use brainwaves.
I suspect it's a whole lot harder to travel through interstellar space than sci-fi authors have given us to believe. It may well be that there simply are no extraterrestrial intelligences out there at all.
Maybe other life is living among us now. We only take up a miniscule amount of space and understand hardly any of the environment we live in. Our brains may not be as intelligent as we assume.
They are already here in our deepest oceans,they have been witnessed going into and out of the ocean.
I think an actual intelligent species simply has different ideas about what is important and what is not from our ideas. They might be focused on supporting every living being, sharing wealth, healthcare, making education free, perhaps evolving systems in which financial concerns are not considered of prime importance. They might not even have such a thing as finance.
Check out these channels thoroughly
1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ...
2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions.
3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
Ariel School 1994, very, very, close encounter. This entire conversation is absurd based on what happened that day in 1994 at Ariel. Wake up and open your mind, "they" are here!
Exactly. Absolute waste of time. They are here. Nordics, grey, etc There is evidence. And at Ariel all those children are not lying. It just seems v hard for people to accept.
"put that on your plaque" lol
When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought it was David Icke.
David Icke's twin
ZnenTitan great minds think alike I commented the same then saw yours 😂😂😂
@@frankiemcconalogue192 Yes, I saw where you did. Thanks. (In a related matter. Is Steph Young, Nick Redfern's long lost sister?)
Same!😭
i knew it,david icke is a shapeshifter😂😂😂😂
You want the truth? You can't handle the truth?
You're god dam right I ordered the code red
We want Jill Tarter on that wall, we need Jill Tarter on that wall.
...and the Universe sits back and tenderly laughs at our baby steps. Moving!
Who's out there among the billions of planets? We are. What's on the "other" side of a black hole? We are. We are them. We are the alien. I think it's neat, don't you?
OMG I thought it was David Icke when the thumbnail for this video showed up in my feed!
Other more advanced civilizations would not waste time with us. To them, we would be a bleak reminder of a not-so-similar past. If one wanted to visit or learn from our planet, they would do it without anybody knowing or do so from a distance as to either avoid disruption or to avoid potential contamination. And if a civilization were advanced enough to find us in the first place, it could also be capable of traversing reality as we know it through the likes of interdimensional travel and may have transcended long ago.
We may also be one of many civilizations that are on a similar time scale with whom are also premature in space exploration.
Laced Mindu stop speculating and learn what’s really going on. Read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings explaining what we’re really up against as a species.
If the sheeple don’t wake up soon we’re all in for a real sh*t storm.
I’ve been researching this for 7 years ever since my first sighting and I had all the pieces to the puzzle but was lacking the big picture. Now that I’ve read this info I finally have it. It would be in your interest to take this information seriously or face the alternative. And the alternative is unthinkable.
"NSF begins planning for decommissioning of Arecibo Observatory’s 305-meter telescope due to safety concerns"
I wouldn't even bother to search for extraterrestrial life. More importantly, I would concentrate on reducing suffering on our own planet. Technology is likely to continue to advance and some kind of super AI will make a decision to search or not, or even whether humans are relevant.
well that's a good point.
There’s a very good reason why the aliens aren’t here already--there are no aliens
It's possible humans are the only sentient beings in the entire universe. Considering the number of stars and planets it seems highly unlikely but you could be correct. We may be totally alone.
That's crazy-they are here all the time
Any aliens seeing the state of this planet and the trouble here, would shoot away at high speed never to return !🤣🤣🤣
Omg - it's David Icke's feminine doppelgänger!
That’s what I came here to say lo
That’s what I came here to say lo
His Soul Mate?
It could be that human type life is so common not only throughout the milky way, but throughout the entire universe that we are nothing special. Like grass on Earth. You could travel down the highway and see grass everywhere but why would you stop to examine one particular patch?
If you put green makeup on her face she’d look like a Romulan from star Trek
How strong should an (original) extra galactic signal be for us to to be able to detect it? That is a key question that we may not even know the answer yet. I certainly don't but don't expect to ever know (even though I would like to know). And even if we do know, how is anyone going to find out? Asking SETI would probably be the dest way. Maybe I could arrange an interview with a SETI person. It's an important question (even if we don't have the answer) cos it seems that if intelligent life is out there why isn't there any signals? Why aren't there a lot of alien like signals? Maybe it's cos the signal strength that we have is NOT detectable from other galaxies. And maybe the alien signals aren't strong enough for us to detect them. And maybe there is not signal producing aliens in every galaxy (and maybe only one in our's). That is one explanation we don't get signals form aliens in our galaxy. The second thing goes back to my original question. I suppose it depends on how strong the original signal is. Even one single galaxy is huge. If Pluto's ORBIT was scaled down to 1 mm, our galaxy would be 100 km diam (on the same scale).
The key is always to keep an open mind, to not shove your belief into view as the only view. The truth is we have absolutely no idea what's going on out there. And again people always forget how vast space time is. Average human life of 70 years....earths age - 70 billions years. First human civilizations around 5-10,000 years ago, that leaves a whole lot of time with out us knowing a thing.
nice to see david icke on closer to truth
I always find these people hilarious. Are they blind or just scared? There are UFOs flying about everywhere! Ha Ha
simon page you should read “The Allies of Humanity” it’s a set of briefings that describes in detail what’s happening to our world and why from an outsider perspective.
Thank you, I have learned quite a lot on the subject.
simon page your welcome. Please share this with as many as possible. Time is short
Don Wheeler I do tell everyone I know that ufos are real. I’m not scared to do that, but it is too much for people to accept. I fully understand that. I mean, it is unbelievable, even though it’s true. There is no footage of ufos of aliens that you could show someone to make them believe. Just how it is.
simon page this is one of the vids that confirmed their presence in space. (for me anyway). Don’t know how to post a link with my phone but search RUclips:) “NEW SHOCKING NASA UOF FOOTAGE” and the channel name “Autograghhere” the footage speaks for itself! Others will pick it to death but I know you”ll appreciate it.
It does seem absurd until you realise how quickly the big numbers reduce when the constraint filters are applied because they're big numbers too. Life evolving is one thing. Intelligent life is a big leap from that, and intelligent life that can traverse the galaxy is a few more big leaps. We may be the only intelligent life we ever discover, the others simply too distant to ever enable observation or communication.
All life in our planet is intelligent. It’s not a big leap, simply because that leap doesn’t exist. The only big leap is life evolving.
@@dplouro dolphins are intelligent, but they cannot build spacecraft. Or you could have a plant that does produce intelligent life capable of some technology, but never enough to leave the surface of their planet. Not enough mineable ores is one possibility. Even we wouldn't be here except for an asteroid impact 65 million years ago. Those big numbers get small quickly; it's exponential growth in reverse.
They probably dont want to get involved in the BS on earth.
There are a lot of variables in the Drake equation which are unknown. Recent observations regarding exoplanets indicate that most stars have planets. The next step is to do spectroscopic analysis of exoplanets to seek evidence of biospheres.
Then we scan these planets more intensely for communication signals and send probes. In all likelihood, primitive life akin to bacteria is common, life akin to early multicellular organisms uncommon and advanced technological civilisations extremely rare.
John Geier you couldn’t be more wrong. The universe is teeming with intelligent life. I’ve personally seen over twenty five of these things and captured a handful on video. Click on me to see! Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time”
They are here and their watching us.
They are here, it’s just that the science community is ignorant.
It wouldn't be the first time that humans have overestimated their intelligence. I am sure that far more advanced life will have ways of communicating and/or existing that we cannot conceive of yet. I don't think we are that rare. We don't even know a lot about what happens at the bottom of our own oceans or if other forms of existence are possible in seemingly uninhabitable places. It is exciting to think about.
I'm with this lady. I welcome our gray skin masters.
Humans are the first species out of 10,000,000 to have ever existed on this planet to be potentially capable of interstellar travel or communication. So wouldn’t it reason that of every 10,000,000 planets with life, only 1 has the means to communicate through the stars?
You cant rule out Tic-tac UFO's seen by US Navy crew.
Thank you! What great outside the box thinkers.
They ARE already here!
We are them
It could be we are completely alone in our galaxy. Life if it exists on other worlds may only be microscopic bacteria. Intelligence could be so rare that we could be the first in the universe. Imagine the notion that we are the only life that can behold the enormity of the cosmos. Food for thought.
How long would it take an intelligent alien civilization disposed to explore galaxy to come to the earth from 10 light years away, 100 light years away, 1000 light years away and so on?
2:05 Aliens screaming for help!
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Is there a way to look for buildings, transportation, infrastructure or other signs of civilization on planets in the galaxy?
Surely the sheer distances make it less likely that we have physical visitors as the energy needed is too high for them to spend on just meeting the neigbours. What would be the incentive to coming here? Only curiosity, if they are more advanced than us.
If we ever get to interstellar exploration we'll choose the nearest likely habitable places first, so maybe we are too far away for the present. They may of course be communicating with us but we don't understand the message.
Brian Morton wake up man! The evidence of their presence is overwhelming. Do even a little research and you’ll begin to see it.
@@donwheeler1208 What evidence? If it was "overwhelming" then we would be overwhelmed but I feel distinctly underwhelmed at present. I don't count you tube videos as research either.
Brian Morton stay closed minded if you wish! But your children and their children will pay for your ignorance.
I had my first encounter about 7 years ago. And since then I look up a lot more and I have seen over twenty five of these things and captured a handful on video. Click on me to see! Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time” Please let me know what you think!
Once you can know for a fact that their here the next question is why? And that rabbit hole goes miles deep.
There is a publication that describes in great detail what’s going on in our world with the ET presence on earth. But unfortunately for people like you who don’t have a clue it will just seem like fiction. For those in the know (like me) this information resonates very deeply. I just came across this set of briefings aimed at the people of earth a couple of days ago and I could not stop reading it.
Not knowing your background I don’t know how you’ll react to this information but I will give the name anyway. It’s called “The Allies of Humanity” you can pull it up on RUclips and listen to it but the read is better than the AI voice in my opinion.
Since you asked me “what evidence”? I sense you are new and uneducated about this subject. So I’ll stop here because this is most likely a waste of time for me. Good luck take care.
@@donwheeler1208 You didn't read what I said. Perhaps they are talking to us but in a lnaguage we don't understand. I don't think that's being closed minded at all, but I still don't value you tube videos as evidence. As an amateur astronomer I have seen plenty of UFOs but never any proved to be alien intelligences. Some accounts are also almost convincing but and it's a large but, not quite sufficient. Unfortunately people get too excited to properly evaluate evidence and it comes down to a belief, then the evidence gets skewed to bolster that belief, but that's human nature. By the way it's not nice to open with threatening comments, don't do it, it doesn'e enhance your argument one iota and simply demeans you.
Brian Morton sorry I didn’t mean to be condescending but for someone to ask what evidence? Just means to me that they have done no research but still ask stupid questions like that.
I see evidence everywhere. Like Roswell, project bluebook, the show Ancient Aliens, WWII pilots called them foo fighters, thousands of Mufon cases, the Bob Lazar story, the battle of Los Angeles, the visits to the capital in 1954 lasted two week-ends, hundreds if not thousands of military encounters, the movie documentary unacknowledged by Dr. Steven Greer, thousands of abduction cases, millions of sightings around the world, Crop circles, and that’s the short list!
So honestly with just that, for someone to ask “what evidence”? is just insulting....! If you want to know that’s great but do some real research before you ask dumb questions. And it’s a shame you reject anything on RUclips but If you want more detailed descriptions of some of what I mentioned then seek out Richard Dolan (top investigative journalist). And he’s just one of many. After all that, if you still want to deny that’s both your prerogative and your mistake!
If there were civilizations like the Inca's or Roman Empire on a nearby planet, they would never know we were trying to communicate with them. Many high level civilizations never were able to develop technology. Our own civilization didn't develop it until the last few hundred years.
Check out these channels thoroughly
1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ...
2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions.
3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
Because all the aliens got laid off by their intelligent automation!
Dr. Robert Lawrence Kuhn, I want to thank you for these mind-openings videos. I have viewed many oh God, non-God, on physics, on consciousness, on the brain... but now I am following a few of this videos on Alien existence. What surprises me is that NONE of the persons interviewed speaks of this Existence as being true. Now, what boggles my mind is that though there are thousands and thousands of pages on such Alien existence, not one of your guests believes in Aliens. There are others professionals who analyze Abductions. There are implants. But not one of your guests cannot consider ridiculous such things. All the countries (or most) have made public documentation on such Alien existence. So why is it that NONE of your guests mentions or takes seriously this Situation? On the one hand, there has been contact; and on the other, there is NO Alien existence. I find, both as a scholar and as an uneducated person, this incongruity troubling. Why not interview some Doctors who have info on such experiences? They won't sound more foolish than we believers of God.
Check out these channels thoroughly
1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ...
2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions.
3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
The search should focus on stars which are similar distance as us from the galactic core
Aliens could be within 50 light years of us and we wouldn’t be able to detect them - aliens could be within 6 light years of us, and we wouldn’t be able to them. All we could ‘hear’ would be the radiation from their sun, but there are, like, 10 good reasons conjured as to why we see no aliens. Of all the reasons listed, the most likely reason we haven’t detected aliens is that something has killed them.
Ever notice that in all the abduction cases the aliens never laugh?
Well laughing is a human reaction. Don't expect them to be like us. Remember they've grown up in a different world and are therefore biologically different from us.
A quarter of a millennia ago, we had no idea that electromagnetic radiation existed, or how to manipulate it.
Though we could see it all around us, and it existed long before our species, or even life itself, existed.
Now, we are convinced, that the EM band is the lingua franca of all communications in the cosmos.
I suggest that mature extraterrestrial civilizations may well use some form of communication,
to which we are completely oblivious.
It certainly would be convenient to communicate without having to deal with speed of light limitations,
or that pesky inverse square law. Such seemingly magical technologies may exist,
perhaps we will simply not discover them for another 500 years. At which time, the blaring cacophony
of galactic communications will suddenly become apparent to solve the mystery of our previous isolation.
Spirit travel is well known to many of us who have done it. Spacecraft isnt needed for observation and we may not be as interesting as our egos wish.
Given the fact that very basic, primitive life existed upon Earth for some 3,000,000,000 years before complexity arose only some 535.000,000 years ago (this being the Cambrian Explosion), I am inclined to believe that the biggest filter to intelligent life evolving is that a Cambrian Explosion event is very rare in the Cosmos. We still don't know why it happened here, nor why it took so long to happen. I am inclined to believe that we are alone, in the Milky Way galaxy, because nowhere else in our home galaxy did complex life ever happen at all.
Or maybe something similar to the following suggestion commonly happens instead. Let's say an Alien civilization, consisting of Vorlons perhaps, creates robots whose first three laws are...
1) *_A robot may not injure a Vorlon or, through inaction, allow a Vorlon to come to harm._*
2) *_A robot must obey orders given it by Vorlons except where such orders would conflict with the First Law._*
3) *_A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law._*
These robots then go out and explore the Galaxy before the Vorlons leave their home world. In accordance with the first law, whenever the robots encounter non-Vorlon sentient life (such as us humans),... they exterminate it as it's not Vorlon and *_it may represent a threat to the Vorlons._* This is why there are no sentient aliens ever encountered in Isaac Asimov's Galaxy. The robots, dutifully obeying the first law, have exterminated all non-native sentient life they have ever encountered because such life may represent a possible threat to the only form of sentient life they have ever known and have loyalty towards!! Basically, the three laws of robotics *MANDATES* that any sentient's robots act as Berserkers with regard to every other form of non-native sentient life!?!?
How's that for unintended consequences?!?! But, really, how viable would a first rule of robotics be if it say instead *_A robot may not injure a sentient entity or, through inaction, allow a sentient entity to come to harm._* Would it allow us to eat animals then? What about eating octopuses? Dolphins? What happens if an Orca is attacking a human? or a Gorilla? or another sentient machine? I am only being somewhat facetious with these examples,.. but we could extend this reasoning forever,... couldn't we?
This is a very facinating agrguement, I didn't know about Cambrian explosion thanks for mentioning that.
@@vspock4251 Consider how common the unquestioned assumption is that a sentient species will always want to colonize new worlds as fast as possible,.. and yet we see absolutely no evidence of this?!? Maybe instead newly arising sentient species invent very satisfying virtual environments to explore which takes the place of any wish to actually go on through with the blood & turmoil of actually going out into space itself. Maybe everyone finds it's simply easier to masturbate than to actually propagate?
Check out these channels thoroughly
1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ...
2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions.
3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions..
I'll refer more once you've seen all these..
I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
Maybe, just maybe, aliens are already here and we don’t know it.
See the interview of David Grush an intelligence officer by Ross Colthart. The game’s up.
From the thumbnail I thought this was going to be David Icke. I was relieved to find that was not the case, but also slightly disappointed to.
They are super cool. I like her .
We can't rule out...okay, but the universe is estimated to be 13.8 billion years old. Earth is only 4.6 billion years old and we have only had a technologically advanced civilization for less than 100 years. The early universe and Earth were not hospitable to life.
Let's give this another 100,000 years for really advanced civilizations to cover the immense distances.
I read a good book abut the biocosm, by James N. Gardner. He has something called "the selfish biocosm hypothesis."
It could be as how the quantum particles behave - every situation is possible - so maybe we live in a world where we are the only ones & in other universes there are quite a lot of species
Interesting but still speculation upon speculation. It is difficult to think like an alien, who may or may not have totally different motivation for colonising the Universe.
My feeling is that the reality of this topic is probably jaw dropping. I think we would find that it’s not only vastly more profound, with celestial beings interacting with humans as well as higher density ET beings, but that we are a part of it. We are participants.