HL15 by 45Drives Review and Setup: Extreme Edition
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2023
- Join Brian, Kevin and Jordan, the dynamic trio from StorageReview, as they dive into an unbridled tech adventure with the HL15 homelab server from 45HomeLab!
With our enterprise lab brimming with extra cutting-edge hardware, watch as our escapade escalates from clever customization to outright tech madness. In this whirlwind of technology and fun, we push the boundaries of what’s possible with the highly versatile HL15 case. Discover the insane configurations and over-the-top overclocking feats we achieve, all thanks to the flexibility of this remarkable case.
* A massive shoutout to 45Drives for providing us with this amazing sample - their support made this epic journey into the realms of lunacy and high-performance computing possible.
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*+1: Like, Share, and Comment to let us know what you think and what you’d like to see next, this is only part 1!
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This is quite literally "thinking outside the box" for a review video on a 45 drives build. Great job guys, and kudos for not giving us just another NAS review like other channels are providing on their 45 drives builds.
As an admin that touches servers, workstations, and other rack mount equipment, I greatly appreciate the fact that 45 Drives finished out the edges of the metal.
I am looking forward to part 2 to see how it was all configured for an "All in one" solution that would fit right in with a "homelab" build
I don't think you want to see part 2. Kevin was talking about Hyper-V and a TrueNAS VM earlier today.
@StorageReview give us PART 2! I know it's going to be worth it... you guys always come up with top tier stuff!
@@thebeardofknowledge now you're just being greedy - we have an unboxing video coming next week probably that will bridge the gap to a Part 2 ;)
I know some people are complaining about the cost but I'm probably going to grab one of the chassis for my NAS rebuild when I get around to it next year, it's nice to splurge on something nice every once in a while. Glad to see the reviews starting to drop, thanks for this one hilarious as it is. The frustration with the end result made this that much funnier.
We've seen the argument over parts cost in our Discord as well. But what most people don't get is this kind of stuff isn't easy and there's not exactly a pick up and go chassis like this. It's extremely well built. Thre premium you pay for a packaged NAS solution is extremely high by comparison. And heck, we made a Gaming NAS box. You can't do that elsewhere.
Same here. Probably going to buy the whole system though. Built my last NAS. I'm ready to just plug it in this time.
@@jeffself7981 As much as I love the whole building process I can also understand wanting things to 'just work' out of the box.
The chassis and backplane option came with the data cables as well. I'm building mine now
The exasperation from Brian trying to understand Kevin and Jordan’s choice use of add-ins lol
These chumps agreed to a plan then did their own thing. - Brian 😢😢😢
@@StorageReviewthe only plan is no plan!
@@JordansTechJunk but there was a very distinct plan.
@@StorageReview On the swing side.. it's for HomeLab which this is exactly the kinds of degenerate stuff that we'd do with it.. I bought one to throw in an epyc board, fill out the 15 bays with Enterprise SSD's i've got (all 2tb ish), then it'll manage a 90 bay Supermicro Chassis filled with 18tb SAS drives. Even i'm going to throw in an A5000 if it fits well. Definitely not going the windows route though. #powerbillssuck
@@ZVexxPlayer You're clearly as ill as my team is! That said, we have a different angle on the flash we're working on ;) - Brian
Did he actually say, 'All in Raid 0!' at the end?
Kevin is barely human, mostly a lab savage. Hopefully he doesn't review it that way and finds a more sane path.
Brian's face - priceless 😂
This is what happens when you trust goblins with executing a plan, and I love every part of it.😂
At least their "our" goblins...or something. Oy.
It is an expensive bit of kit, particularly for a home lab...
But I'd be happy to deploy one. Anyone that needed one would be pretty happy, I think.
Some people drive Caddies, some people drive 2002 Altimas.
Waiting for part 2, and some gaming benchmarks LOL
We have more cooking.
@@StorageReview I was wondering, is the Power Supply suitable to power 15 SSD's, taking into consideration the fact that SSD's run on 5v as compared to HDD that run on 12v... Does the backplane do any kind of voltage conversion?
@@visheshgupta9100 The SAS backplane has support for 3.3, 5 and 12V. SSDs are much easier to manage than the spin up current of a hard drive.
@@StorageReview I believe that the Corsair PSU included with the HL15 is rated at 5v 20A = 100w. Is it enough to power 15 SSDs at the same time? Say for instance we create 1 zPool with 2 vDevs of 7 SSDs each, and 1 SSD as boot drive. Can the PSU handle powering all at the same time? Sorry for the noob questions...
@@visheshgupta9100 we haven't done it yet - you'd ahve to ask 45D but it's unlikely they'd use a design where flash would destroy the system.
This seems like a great under desk archive system for offsite backups from the data center. Doesn't need GPUs as that CPU can keep up with software RAID. Maybe a small SSD as a write through cache and I'd be happy.
This can definitely do that. And we weren't supposed to have a GPU in this...our team is...special.
I send in a comment to 45 drives asking about GPU focused chassis and they say something roughly to the nature of 'that's not on the map I feel like our clients will use a separate system and not build hyper integrated systems...' Meanwhile... we are stuffing in Ampere quadros...
To be fair, I support this, we want to see ALL the use cases.
Our guys started out thinking this was a NAS then pretty quickly pivoted to treating it as a server. As you saw. 45D probably doesn’t want to support too many use cases.
@@greenprotagon it. Made a new Gaming NAS category. 🎉🎉🎉
@@StorageReview Oh that sounds amazing. *hides my 5GPU, dual Xeon, 512GB of memory, 10x 3.5" and 4x 2.5" Cloud gaming server behind my back* congratulations.
All jokes aside... Start buying licenses on G.O.G. and downloading offline copies of your favorite games now... I find they work excellent with Parsec and a front end... any launchbox fans out there?
That looks like a what 3u height maybe 4?
It would be really nice to have caddies that support u.3 drives like Micron 9400 or Kioxia CD-7/8... and 100 GbE ... is the backplane compatible with these?
It's a SATA/SAS backplane, no NVMe support outside of the PCIe slots, where we put teh 30.72TB SSDs.
@@StorageReview What about an HBA / Raid Controller connected to that backplane, wouldn't it work?
@@alinparcalab7269 you're trying too hard to jam what you want into a rig that's not that. You'd need to get an NVMe backplane. Maybe they'll offer NVMe as an option, with bays tuned for 2.5" 15mm. But 99% of HL15 buyers mostly want HDDs we're guessing.
@@StorageReview Thank you for answering! Last question please, will it support 15x Samsung PM1653 at full speed?
@@alinparcalab7269you know we have a Discord for chat? 🎉🎉🎉 you’d have to check for SAS4 support. This is SAS3 IIRC
Where is part two?
Under the now semi-aborted TrueNAS vision, would 2 of the 15 drives possibly have gotten a pair of smallish SSDs installed for a RAIDZ1 install just for the OS? (Assuming you were not going to waste the Optane on the OS install and on a single drive, or resort to the QLC NVME's...) That would leave 13 drive slots, perhaps 12 used and a hot spare...?
My initial vision would have been 14 matching HDDs for the main storage group, and spot 15 for a hot spare. All of our production storage arrays include something for a hot spare, and with HDDs go with 2 drive parity. OS would still be on the onboard m.2. Not worried that much about raid1 for the m.2 OS drive as those have become quite reliable for minimal usage. - Kevin
The bis question is ... How to connect 15 or 14 sata drives (hdd,ssd) if my main motherboard only have 4 sata slots?? I really want to build something like this but i dont know how to do it 😢
HBA
Okay, I heard Parsec mentioned. But Parsec has become a huge pain in the ass with constant reverification logins needed for a headless unit like I am running. Is there a workaround?
You only need to reverify to connect out from the headless, not to connect into it. Try a paid sub maybe? I use it daily. -J
@@StorageReview yea I am-I am paying for WARP. Maybe I have a setting wrong…
I don't think ill go this far on my build... 😂
The lunatics are already working thee more ideas and we’ve barely started the main review. 😢
@@StorageReview I can only imagine.. 😂😂
@@DPCTechnology Discord if you want to be on the insdie ;) discrod.gg/storagereview
@@StorageReview will do after I eat my weight in turkey and stuffing!
What about hard drive vibration ?
There’s a dampener in there too. ❤
Where's the HL60??
Give these guys a breather, they just got this one launched!
First!
you win!
double mic feed in the first 5 minutes. amazing video.
You get a nice server like that and install WINDOWS on it, bare-metal?? Dude would be FIRED if he worked for me!!
Hah, don't be so angry. Kevin will appease you by setting up Hyper-V and giving you a ZFS VM. Good?
I mean to be fair, it is a homelab, not just a NAS... I don't blame the guys for switching up.
Definitely true, it's just rigged for storage more than anything else. We get the sense that more are upset over the pivot to Windows than anything, lol.
Second!
It's a hassle, it's as hard to find as your cases, I hope cheaper cases without a motherboard.
We’re reviewing this. We don’t make it. You just want to buy bare chassis? Maybe Chenbro is a good fit for you. 🎉
HAHAHAH windows
Love it or hate it? 😂😂😂
"Let's do a sensible storage appliance"
"OK"
Comes back next day
"Let's install Windows and run CRYSIS on this server!"
Pure PCMR move from the team, love it!
Our lab is run by savages, results may be disasterous.