Colleges should be able to pay not only players but universities should collaborate with the students to sell any service they can, Promoting economical growth for every town that has a school.
This discussion shouldn't be focused on college football NOT basketball. In basketball, the season is literally from November to March which is only 5 months. Then, the top players are off to the NBA. College football brings in more money, players have to stay longer and have a much higher chance of getting injured. They are the ones who need the monetary compensation.
@@damianpresha5155 Most schools actually dont benefit from ncaa sports. Besides top programs, most dont get much revenue from their games b/c of Stadium/Staff cost. Plus Students pay little or go free, which are most of their fans. They fund their program off of tuition fees. So vast majority schools wouldnt be able to pay Salary to players.
They get a scholarship for a school. And they'll have the chance to make money.
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@@addisonhinson6290 I think a better solution would be lowering tuition for all students. Those kids tuition funds the athletic programs. The ncaa is profiting directly off them when theyre supposed to be an amateur league.
You CANNOT pay one sport without paying all the other sports. Problem is, basketball and football are the only sports that generate money. So, their revenue will be used to pay athletes in other sports. Not sure how well that will go over. It's far more complicated than talking heads make it out to be
Wtf? This is why players should skip college if optional, thats some pimp and hoe type shit, could you imagine generating millions but can't even get 1% of that, the players actually have the power if they ALL band together and refused to play the NCAA would pay them overnight and the "free education" bs is pure garbage majority go to school only because its required not for degrees that they'll never use going to the NBA
@@mrobert6446 im not saying the colleges have to pay them but they should be able to make money off their likeness they cant even monetize a youtube channel if they wanted to
Should do like European countries. Have different level of pros that kids can make money and develop at the same time. If colleges aren't willing to pay the athletes create ways for they can.
College players should get paid for their likeness: Jersey sales, endorsements , autograph signings , memorabilia
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Trey Bens: if they did that, then schools would hike up tuition prices. thats what funds college athletics. Minus the top programs, most dont profit that much frm NCAA sports. Some actually experience a loss. (little coverage, most if fans are students who barely pay).Im not disagreeing here, but just stating whats going on
New Profile bullshit these universities are making millions to hundreds of millions every year some have there own TV deals letting Players make money off autographs and mdmoribilla not gonna make a Dent on there profits
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@@Stonecoldalston Im not talking about the Dukes of the world making millions. I mean the Fiu, Chattanoogas, & Fresno St's etc. You know the many schools w/ half empty stadiums and their only fans being students attending game free or little. Stadium/coaches funded by Students tuition. Alot of these programs arent profitable. I think a good solution would be if NCAA profits are used on all students paying tuition. They Funded the programs off their own money, so it should go to making education affordable.
New Profile what do that have to Do with letting Players make money off there likeness that money won't be coming out of School budgets so it won't affect the smaller Schools when the Video games use these kids images they should have to pay the kids the same way they pay nba players players should also be able to be endorsements lit autographs hell how bout even letting them make money off RUclips there's plently ways players can profit without it coming out of The Programs budget
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@@Stonecoldalston simple. making it a pay system no longer makes it an amateur sport. and big name schools could essentially buy the recruits b/c he can earn more from a big name brand like duke, kentucky etc. but i agree its ridiculous some schools hoarde millions like that instead of making education affordable for those paying tuition. I think they should get rid of 1 and done rule, let players just go to D League & profit, have student athletes get scholarships, and college athletic revenue go back to ordinary Students who pay athletic fees even if theyre not in a team. that way guys like zion, get drafted/or earn money via D league, and an amateur league for ncaa that actually helps students afford their schooling.
nabil chowdhury fr fr they can get injured like look at Lebron and Kobe they made it out idk why ppl think they shouldn’t get paid they could play in the nba and compete if allowed
Its crazy how somehow the lakers getting someone gets brought up when talking about college basketball. The lebron/lakers love affair when it comes to the media is disgusting 🤦🏽♂️
They are not professionals until they go pro. Therefore, they have no reason to get paid. Get rid of the one and done and you won't even have to make the distinction anymore.
College players getting paid will not be fair to all schools. Schools like Texas Alabama Oregon Ohio state and Notre damn are wealthier and can afford to pay more unlike schools such as Texas tech, Virginia tech, or Wisconsin. The talent will all pool to the higher paying schools causing even more disparity
Talent is already pooled at the top schools, the reason it wouldn't get much worse if they get paid is that there could still be scholarship limits and walk-ons don't get paid. So a player might want to go to Ohio State, but if Ohio State doesn't want them there would be no change to the current recruiting system. The rarity that someone who is recruited by a bunch the top schools in the country then end up choosing a lower level school, is negligible at best. If there were no scholarship limits, then i can see what you said happening
It’s already not fair to all schools. Top talent already goes to the schools you mentioned. The big difference will be players will now get some of that money the schools get.
I never understood why Americans think college sports is important, isn't the point of university to get an education? Why even have sports to begin with? Makes no sense to me outside of generating money for the school, which could be done in other ways
yeah he prolly would fit with the bulls, i like kris dunn tho. i think for the bulls it's a draft best player available situation due to the young depth at each position. i would like to see them get Bol bol
It's not Zion that needs the money, he's gonna get like 12 mill his rookie year, it's the 3rd or 4th year guys who won't make the NBA who needs a little money
Soooooo the free scholarship to top notch universities is not payment enough??? Does anyone know how much a full ride scholarship to Duke goes for now??? Alot.......
Have these guys forgotten about the SMU Mustangs? Money is kept out of college players hands for competitive balance. If players want to be paid they can go pro, they understand the deal when they signed their college letter of intent.
JEFFREY and all those upsets we love in March would never happen anymore. Do you honestly think a 16 beating a 1 would have ever happened if players were getting paid? not a chance because the disparity in talent would be even greater because of the disparity in what these teams would be able to pay players. The argument to play players for college ball is pointless! If they want to be paid out of high school they can go to Europe. If they don't want to play in exchange for free school they don't have to.
Right bro.... to the NCAA, It’s not like we want you to make these players millionaires in college. That’s what the NBA is for. But at least 30,000-50,000 for scholarship athletes is feasible
Man social media is so revolutionary. As of April 2020 due the intense pressure from the media NCAA players are now able to make money off endorsements and their image
everyone in the media so quick to have the lakers move on from lonzo ball while at the same time lambaste the lakers front office for letting randle walk and trading russel they really cant make up their mind about what the lakers should do with their young talent. I agree that you should trade who you have to trade to get anthony davis but if its not for him or another top 7 player then what point is their in moving on from these young guys
There's only a couple of dozen or so big name players that draw in revenue each year. Most of the guys in the NCAA aren't going to the NBA. Getting a free education and housing at a D1 college is enough.
Ok don’t pay them, but why aren’t these players allowed to make money off of their name. Why aren’t they allowed to sell their autographs? Get endorsement or appearance fees?
The university shouldn’t pay them since they got scholarship free food free housing and the best tutors the university has to offer. But outside the university why not.
Ive said this for years. Like being a collegiate athlete, you dont have time to work and if you do your to tired too. NCAA be scheming these players fr
If the college players get paid, should then the ROTC and other players of other sports get paid as well? Is it safe to give young kids that much money, and in turn access at such a young age?
Actually it’s not about the star players who will make millions in the NBA it’s about the players that don’t make it and are part of the programs that make millions and end up without anything, yes the get scholarships but the schools make way more off them. They could defer payments till they leave the program or until the end of year, one way or another they will always be used by someone, but this way they monetise themselves at the first possible opportunity.
I think that College athletes should be paid because all these athletes put their bodies at risk and sometimes when they get injured they have to pay for it. Furthermore, these athletes work on their sport just like a job. It makes it hard for athletes to balance school and their sport. In addition, there are many students who have a scholarship at school like Duke. I actually did a podcast on this so please check it out. Apple: King Kumar’s Podcast: Why College Athletes should be paid on Apple Podcasts Anchor: Why College Athletes should be paid by King Kumar’s Podcast • A podcast on Anchor Spotify: King Kumar’s Podcast
this will step every kids game up in my opinion. money is the motivation and kids will probably stay in college longer too. like Ja from Murray State killin. that's easy money for 4 years and get your degree. cash rules
Only thing I can say as an athlete is you play the sport first and if the rest of your life is taken care of fine. And he is taken care of at that school. I know it.
This is absurd! College players aren't professionals! You don't pay amateurs! You don't go to college to get paid! You are there to learn! Teachers get paid! Last I checked, coaches are teachers! There isn't enough money out there to pay every college player in all college sports(including women players)! You will never completely stop corruption in college sports! You want a solution? Create minor leagues for players who don't want to go to college! At least they would have a means to be legitimately paid!
Players should be able to share in making money off their own name. NCAA doesn't even need to pay them. They can just charge for autographs, event appearances, memorabilia. Seems fair enough.
pay them for what? they get a free ride they get a chance to play for a professional team they get exposure they get placed in elite circles...any high paying job you get you have to build your resume and it usually takes 1-4 years SAME as them only they get it for free...usually you have to make others money before you reap the benefits thats how the worlds has worked since money was invented...look at is as an internship. and dont tell me that the free ride doesnt mean anything these are D-1 schools you can major in anything. Andrew Luck got an engineering degree from STANFORD playin qb if he can do it these kids can too
There is a huge difference though. At any other job, building your resume almost never means risking an injury that could destroy your entire professional career. A lot of these too prospects would not even play in college if the NBA allowed High Schoolers to go to the League straight away.
@@tobias960 thats true the only complaint i have is if an athlete is given a full scholarship it should be guaranteed regardless of how they perform on the field and I think all student athletes should have guaranteed 4 year offers thats my only complaint.and also maybe the league should stop the one and done rule but honestly goin to school gives them exposure and a fanbase they never would have had...NO one knew who Ja morsntwas until maybe a month ago and now he's about to be a 2nd ovr pick with...he wasnt even ranked coming out of highschool so theres no WAY he was going to the nba last year if ever
I'm advocating that NCAA Players should be paid openly...by Agents, by shoe companies, even by the Universities themselves...They can market themselves online and sell online jerseys if they want...there should be NO RULES against them being paid...OR NOT...it isn't MANDATORY...pay them million$ or NOTHING...let the MarketPlace decide...they are being paid now...let's just make it more honest and open...I invite dialogue but no personal attacks please...
Colleges will NEVER pay players a salary, the ncaa is not professional sports, y’all need to understand that theres a difference between school payinh players and players making money off of their own brand. Thats truly whats criminal about the ncaa
It would be fair, up until it ends up being a meritocracy. The majority of the money generated by the NCAA is made from the football and men's basketball program. That money is then distributed to other sports, especially the least lucrative sports like college soccer, baseball and women's programs.
Can schools afford to pay $7 million/year for athlete salaries? Example: Top Athletes earn flat wage, similar to other part-time college students. Let's say $20.00/hour X 15 hours week = $300/week for starters, $200/week other team members. Plus, they get free tuition, rent/utilities, food, books, uniforms/gear. At Ohio State/UCLA/Texas/Boston College, first team players would earn package worth $60-80,000/year total. Not bad for 18-22 year old college student-athlete. Do you think colleges/universities could juggle things, downgrade some sports from "team" to non-paid "club" status, make it work? If 500 players earn salaries, schools would spend $7m/year in salaries. Comments?
If this was the old draft lottery rules i would be feel so good as a Knicks fan with a top 3 pick, now knowing our luck we’ll pick 5th and end up with culver or cam 😭
So your going to pay Wrestlers, baseball players, basketball, football, hockey, volleyball, Lacross, swimming, Rugby. Etc...you think colleges can afford all that?...no. let them get paid for likeness and autograph...but to be straight paid is stupid.
Jerah Selig ok don’t pay them, but the NCAA doesn’t allow these kids to make money on their own. If someone wants to pay Zion for his autograph, what right does the NCAA have to not allow it?
Imran Ali why should he be paid for his autograph? He’s a 20 year old kid playing college basketball and he’s being asked for an autograph. That’s not special enough? That’s not big enough?
Jerah Selig because there are companies that will provide him money to sign memorabilia. The school doesn’t have to pay. He is making money for himself off of his talent and popularity. Age doesn’t matter. Does that mean if I get a scholarship and I’m a good dj, that I shouldn’t be allowed to go and DJ for money. Does that mean if someone is a famous actor and get a scholarship to go to school they can’t use their fame to make money on the side?
Someone smarter than I should approach the top 80 players in a high school class and pay them $100,000 dollars each to play in a separate development league against each other. some TV network would buy that.
If schools won't pay athletes, they should be allowed endorsements and sponsors. Either way, college sports as we know it will be gone by the end of the decade.
For the true amateur sports fan this would be the end of college sports, it would simply be glorified B+ league sports, displaying more greed and forcing price wars in the amateur games, raising ticket prices everywhere and in my opinion ruining the amateur sports world on the whole. I have lost all interest in professional sports due to Pro athletes greed and paying amateur athletes would only increase the issue and eventually negate the desire to watch, there is NO actual need for it as it is ONLY entertainment making athletes entertainers on the same level as actors meaning they are not actually necessary to sustain life. We would soon be seeing T-ball level kids being compensated for their play and refusing to play unless they got an I-phone, Play Station, that trip to Disney Land or some damb bling. Every sports announcer supporting paying amateur athletes simply vues it as an opportunity for them to also make more money. We grow up as children playing sports solely for the purpose of playing the game, the LOVE OF THE SPORT, it should still be about loving the game and ONLY the VERY BEST deserve to get paid for it and when they have proven they deserve it, with skill, ethical and moral values and continued respect for the game and above all respect and a sincere APPRECIATION for those that are willing to pay THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO WATCH ENTERTAINERS PLAY GAMES FOR A LIVING. If college athletes ever start getting paid the I walk away, and attend more high school or elementary school sporting events. Remember the real reason for playing in the first place, For love of the game.
Bruh they get paid under the table plus full scholarships. Lots of people schools don't make money off of sports and did yall forget the main purpose of a college is for education?
But yet they get a free education free housing best tutors the school has a meal plan for free. Modern day slavery are the ones that had to take out student loans and pay it for 40 years after graduation with a big interest rate. I am thank full for the us army everyday.
Peter Griffin the current system we live in unless you are above middle Class you are a debt slave it’s not a big mystery. But some of these players have only developed basketball and only have time to. They get left behind with no education or game . And a set of skills that doesn’t help you get a job
They are making the NCAA millions to billions. Some athletes can't even eat when there not playing during the seasons, but you want them to play for free.
@@Logical281 that housing and "education" is a fraction of what they would have to actually pay the athletes if they split the revenue. Half the kids leave with a liberal arts or criminal justice degree or basic 101 classes because the school tells them to take easier classes to have more time to play sports.
Alow players to get paid from oustide the NCAA, Booster, school, endorsements etc... Then they don't have to pay everybody and still benefit. They won't because it'll create an unfair competitive advantage for schools with more money and sources to pay players.
Zion should refuse to play. That would destroy these guys thinking they can profit off of them. When athletes like Zion take a stand they can make change happen. Also SAS must know something. He keeps throwing Lonzo name in trade talks. So that means something is gonna happen this summer with him
So the guy that averages 2ppg and is never going to be a pro should get payed as well, im personally for the one and done to be gone and let kids super talented go to the nba right away and the kids that arent as good go to college without a pay and let them develop, or let the kids who finish school go to europe and play pro ball for a year before the nba
Milan Jovanovic if you get rid of that rule. Guys who you think are not ready will want to go the nba cause of the money. And you won’t be able to stop them either
Samus Aran so if your employer said hey I will give you a place to stay and health insurance and that’s it. You can’t make money anywhere else or else you will not be able to work in your field. Would you be ok with that?
There’s a lot of work places that pay for you to get your masters. Does that mean since they are paying to get your masters, they shouldn’t pay you a salary since they are providing you to further your education?
@@ImranAli-er8nk I can think of 99 problems more pressing than this issue. A kid going to college for free, and playing a game he loves is the least of my concerns.. No one is forcing them to go to college and play basketball.
Samus Aran then don’t talk about it if it’s not your concern. This is a sports talk show so they will talk about it and people like me who care will talk about it. No one is saying pay the players, they are saying allow the players to make their own money. If a company wants to pay the players to endorse a product then they should be allowed to make that money. The schools don’t have to pay shit
Kids already on full ride scholarship, why not pay for school for kids who can't afford school, no need to make the more fortunate more fortunate and make the hard workers work harder, compensation sure, millions .....naaaaa
True. That just how it is in sports. If you’re young and you’re not immediately a star then you’re a bum and a bust. They need to let these young players develop.
Idk I would feel some type of way if I’m in school surviving off Financial Aid & working a part time jobs knowing their kids who already in school because they play Football or Basketball & now making more money not only as much as the students but even the professors 🤨🤔🧐
And I'm sure the professors are making more money than you. See how that goes, lol. Don't believe that all teachers are broke and I'm staying that as someone whose dad is a teacher.
Bruh they have a Zion Cam tonight lmao 😂 but he can’t sign a autograph for 20 dollars!? Shit crazy
Or make a lil money on RUclips or Instagram
He'll be a millionaire in like 3 months so I think he'll be fine.
why should he have to wait?@@criscurtean
@@criscurtean Thats besides the point. The point is why should everyone but him be able to profit off his fame whilst he's in college?
@@criscurtean Not if he gets injured and can't play ball ever again.
I don’t think they need to be paid a salary but I think they should be allowed to get money from outside arrangements/sponsorships.
Yes that’s it, sad that they can get kicked out for having a monetized RUclips channel
That’s what he just said u just repeated it lol
Exactly
Colleges should be able to pay not only players but universities should collaborate with the students to sell any service they can, Promoting economical growth for every town that has a school.
This discussion shouldn't be focused on college football NOT basketball. In basketball, the season is literally from November to March which is only 5 months. Then, the top players are off to the NBA. College football brings in more money, players have to stay longer and have a much higher chance of getting injured. They are the ones who need the monetary compensation.
Dickie V talks, that’s word yo.
Some things you don’t question.
Mans just knows 🤷🏼♂️
No he just caved to the pressure
Lol this man said the Knicks got a g league team 😂😂😂
Dick Vitale has finally come around.
Why the hell the Lakers still get brought up 😂😂
It's that damn lebron bullshit and I'm tired of it too like for me lebron is alright and it's alot more players besides lebron
The narrative .... so sick of it
Michael Jordan same
Lakers won't even have a high enough pick so I don't see their relevance unless he expects them to trade for a rookie?
Man just pay the college basketball and football players already, Next question please
I disagree
@@damianpresha5155 Most schools actually dont benefit from ncaa sports. Besides top programs, most dont get much revenue from their games b/c of Stadium/Staff cost. Plus Students pay little or go free, which are most of their fans. They fund their program off of tuition fees. So vast majority schools wouldnt be able to pay Salary to players.
They get a scholarship for a school. And they'll have the chance to make money.
@@addisonhinson6290 I think a better solution would be lowering tuition for all students. Those kids tuition funds the athletic programs. The ncaa is profiting directly off them when theyre supposed to be an amateur league.
You CANNOT pay one sport without paying all the other sports. Problem is, basketball and football are the only sports that generate money. So, their revenue will be used to pay athletes in other sports. Not sure how well that will go over. It's far more complicated than talking heads make it out to be
If Zion sold his autograph for $10 for a meal he'd be indicted by the FBI. Something wrong with that
Maxwell Hammond that shit is crazy
Wtf? This is why players should skip college if optional, thats some pimp and hoe type shit, could you imagine generating millions but can't even get 1% of that, the players actually have the power if they ALL band together and refused to play the NCAA would pay them overnight and the "free education" bs is pure garbage majority go to school only because its required not for degrees that they'll never use going to the NBA
I mean if the coaches get paid, why can't the players?
Cause its a profession
@@damianpresha5155 so is the players playing basketball
@@sikjoker3121 They playing basketball but is it proffesional basketball meaning are they independent?
@@mrobert6446 im not saying the colleges have to pay them but they should be able to make money off their likeness they cant even monetize a youtube channel if they wanted to
@@damianpresha5155 they are independent because they can choose what school they want to play for similar to that thing call free agency in the NBA
Should do like European countries. Have different level of pros that kids can make money and develop at the same time. If colleges aren't willing to pay the athletes create ways for they can.
that’s the G-League
While everybody talking about it. Lavar is DOING it. #JBA
College players should get paid for their likeness:
Jersey sales, endorsements , autograph signings , memorabilia
Trey Bens: if they did that, then schools would hike up tuition prices. thats what funds college athletics. Minus the top programs, most dont profit that much frm NCAA sports. Some actually experience a loss. (little coverage, most if fans are students who barely pay).Im not disagreeing here, but just stating whats going on
New Profile bullshit these universities are making millions to hundreds of millions every year some have there own TV deals letting Players make money off autographs and mdmoribilla not gonna make a Dent on there profits
@@Stonecoldalston Im not talking about the Dukes of the world making millions. I mean the Fiu, Chattanoogas, & Fresno St's etc. You know the many schools w/ half empty stadiums and their only fans being students attending game free or little. Stadium/coaches funded by Students tuition. Alot of these programs arent profitable. I think a good solution would be if NCAA profits are used on all students paying tuition. They Funded the programs off their own money, so it should go to making education affordable.
New Profile what do that have to Do with letting Players make money off there likeness that money won't be coming out of School budgets so it won't affect the smaller Schools when the Video games use these kids images they should have to pay the kids the same way they pay nba players players should also be able to be endorsements lit autographs hell how bout even letting them make money off RUclips there's plently ways players can profit without it coming out of The Programs budget
@@Stonecoldalston simple. making it a pay system no longer makes it an amateur sport. and big name schools could essentially buy the recruits b/c he can earn more from a big name brand like duke, kentucky etc. but i agree its ridiculous some schools hoarde millions like that instead of making education affordable for those paying tuition. I think they should get rid of 1 and done rule, let players just go to D League & profit, have student athletes get scholarships, and college athletic revenue go back to ordinary Students who pay athletic fees even if theyre not in a team. that way guys like zion, get drafted/or earn money via D league, and an amateur league for ncaa that actually helps students afford their schooling.
0:00 dang molly sounds sick
Round of applause please for Mr. Dick Vitale
-Josh Otusanya
What the heck! College basketball is one of the cleanest, keep the money out! It's amazing to see people play for the passion.
nabil chowdhury fr fr they can get injured like look at Lebron and Kobe they made it out idk why ppl think they shouldn’t get paid they could play in the nba and compete if allowed
Its crazy how somehow the lakers getting someone gets brought up when talking about college basketball. The lebron/lakers love affair when it comes to the media is disgusting 🤦🏽♂️
Comments like this are why they keep doing it, dumbass.
They are not professionals until they go pro. Therefore, they have no reason to get paid. Get rid of the one and done and you won't even have to make the distinction anymore.
Why the tf is Stephen a smith bringing up the lakers? Ja morant is a top 2 pick easily
College players getting paid will not be fair to all schools. Schools like Texas Alabama Oregon Ohio state and Notre damn are wealthier and can afford to pay more unlike schools such as Texas tech, Virginia tech, or Wisconsin. The talent will all pool to the higher paying schools causing even more disparity
But the big name schools already get the big name prospects
Talent is already pooled at the top schools, the reason it wouldn't get much worse if they get paid is that there could still be scholarship limits and walk-ons don't get paid. So a player might want to go to Ohio State, but if Ohio State doesn't want them there would be no change to the current recruiting system. The rarity that someone who is recruited by a bunch the top schools in the country then end up choosing a lower level school, is negligible at best. If there were no scholarship limits, then i can see what you said happening
It’s already not fair to all schools. Top talent already goes to the schools you mentioned.
The big difference will be players will now get some of that money the schools get.
Wouldn’t the problem be solved if they got salaries like regular workers instead of getting paid like independent contractors?
Doesnt matter. The top players go to the same schools anyway. Wouldnt change shit
They already get paid if their good. They get a full ride through college even if they havent earned it. Seems like they arent being ripped off
The problem is that US sports are tied to education in the first place
Just like every other major or occupation that you go to college for
Life exists just fine in universities outside the US guys, don't worry.
I never understood why Americans think college sports is important, isn't the point of university to get an education? Why even have sports to begin with? Makes no sense to me outside of generating money for the school, which could be done in other ways
Why do they only mention the Knicks and lakers convos like this? How about the bulls or suns? Ja morant would be an amazing fit on the bulls
yeah he prolly would fit with the bulls, i like kris dunn tho. i think for the bulls it's a draft best player available situation due to the young depth at each position. i would like to see them get Bol bol
It's not Zion that needs the money, he's gonna get like 12 mill his rookie year, it's the 3rd or 4th year guys who won't make the NBA who needs a little money
Soooooo the free scholarship to top notch universities is not payment enough??? Does anyone know how much a full ride scholarship to Duke goes for now??? Alot.......
Thank you, glad I’m not the only one who sees this. You get a chance at a free education people! That means zero college debt
Have these guys forgotten about the SMU Mustangs? Money is kept out of college players hands for competitive balance. If players want to be paid they can go pro, they understand the deal when they signed their college letter of intent.
What competitive balance?
The typical top schools are winning anyways.
JEFFREY you think it's bad now? Once players are paid and the boosters are allowed to buy players it would be ten times worse.
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10 times worse? how? teams like duke, north carolina, and kentucky will still be at the top.
JEFFREY and all those upsets we love in March would never happen anymore. Do you honestly think a 16 beating a 1 would have ever happened if players were getting paid? not a chance because the disparity in talent would be even greater because of the disparity in what these teams would be able to pay players.
The argument to play players for college ball is pointless! If they want to be paid out of high school they can go to Europe. If they don't want to play in exchange for free school they don't have to.
JEFFREY no one is forcing them to play for free, they have options.
Right bro.... to the NCAA, It’s not like we want you to make these players millionaires in college. That’s what the NBA is for. But at least 30,000-50,000 for scholarship athletes is feasible
They all laughed when SAS tried to day Max makes more than him hahahahaha We all know SAS makes bands
Man social media is so revolutionary. As of April 2020 due the intense pressure from the media NCAA players are now able to make money off endorsements and their image
everyone in the media so quick to have the lakers move on from lonzo ball while at the same time lambaste the lakers front office for letting randle walk and trading russel they really cant make up their mind about what the lakers should do with their young talent. I agree that you should trade who you have to trade to get anthony davis but if its not for him or another top 7 player then what point is their in moving on from these young guys
There's only a couple of dozen or so big name players that draw in revenue each year. Most of the guys in the NCAA aren't going to the NBA. Getting a free education and housing at a D1 college is enough.
Ok don’t pay them, but why aren’t these players allowed to make money off of their name. Why aren’t they allowed to sell their autographs? Get endorsement or appearance fees?
Dickie V was spot on with his predictions. I also 100% agree that the player should be able to make money off of their likeness while in college.
The university shouldn’t pay them since they got scholarship free food free housing and the best tutors the university has to offer. But outside the university why not.
Ive said this for years. Like being a collegiate athlete, you dont have time to work and if you do your to tired too. NCAA be scheming these players fr
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3:06 longest TV pause ever LMFAOOO
Dickie V!!!!! good to see ya!
If the college players get paid, should then the ROTC and other players of other sports get paid as well? Is it safe to give young kids that much money, and in turn access at such a young age?
Mr. RaidReady how much money does ROTC bring in?
Anybody else notice they put College Basketball Analyst instead of Dick Vitale😂😂
How do you figure who get paid what?? It’s insane to think about
Actually it’s not about the star players who will make millions in the NBA it’s about the players that don’t make it and are part of the programs that make millions and end up without anything, yes the get scholarships but the schools make way more off them. They could defer payments till they leave the program or until the end of year, one way or another they will always be used by someone, but this way they monetise themselves at the first possible opportunity.
I think that College athletes should be paid because all these athletes put their bodies at risk and sometimes when they get injured they have to pay for it. Furthermore, these athletes work on their sport just like a job. It makes it hard for athletes to balance school and their sport. In addition, there are many students who have a scholarship at school like Duke. I actually did a podcast on this so please check it out.
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Believe me them kids are getting paid under the table and always has been.
this will step every kids game up in my opinion. money is the motivation and kids will probably stay in college longer too. like Ja from Murray State killin. that's easy money for 4 years and get your degree. cash rules
At least give the college athletes some $$
This conversation taking away from the prestige of the tournament. Let the players play for a championship.
You can get a championship and money
Hahaha! I would love to be your boss if that's how you think.
$40,000 a year for each player then the top talents can get paid of there likeness. That way they still come out on top.
Lakers need to trade Ball, another young player and draft pick to move in the top 5
Only thing I can say as an athlete is you play the sport first and if the rest of your life is taken care of fine. And he is taken care of at that school. I know it.
Dick Vitale saying this is big because he works for the NCAA and is saying this that's some real G shit
If we being honest these popular athletes are already most likely getting payed
This is absurd! College players aren't professionals! You don't pay amateurs! You don't go to college to get paid! You are there to learn! Teachers get paid! Last I checked, coaches are teachers! There isn't enough money out there to pay every college player in all college sports(including women players)! You will never completely stop corruption in college sports! You want a solution? Create minor leagues for players who don't want to go to college! At least they would have a means to be legitimately paid!
I just want the player to get paid so we can get another ncaa game
Max says, "The NCAA needs the patina of amateurism." Proves fancy talk can be true!
I'd trade Ball for Ja Morant in the blink of a damn eye!
Damn fool smh i bet you not a lakers fan anyway
deon brinson life time Lakers fan that why I know talent when I see it! Obviously you don’t fool
Players should be able to share in making money off their own name. NCAA doesn't even need to pay them. They can just charge for autographs, event appearances, memorabilia. Seems fair enough.
pay them for what? they get a free ride they get a chance to play for a professional team they get exposure they get placed in elite circles...any high paying job you get you have to build your resume and it usually takes 1-4 years SAME as them only they get it for free...usually you have to make others money before you reap the benefits thats how the worlds has worked since money was invented...look at is as an internship. and dont tell me that the free ride doesnt mean anything these are D-1 schools you can major in anything. Andrew Luck got an engineering degree from STANFORD playin qb if he can do it these kids can too
There is a huge difference though. At any other job, building your resume almost never means risking an injury that could destroy your entire professional career. A lot of these too prospects would not even play in college if the NBA allowed High Schoolers to go to the League straight away.
@@tobias960 thats true the only complaint i have is if an athlete is given a full scholarship it should be guaranteed regardless of how they perform on the field and I think all student athletes should have guaranteed 4 year offers thats my only complaint.and also maybe the league should stop the one and done rule but honestly goin to school gives them exposure and a fanbase they never would have had...NO one knew who Ja morsntwas until maybe a month ago and now he's about to be a 2nd ovr pick with...he wasnt even ranked coming out of highschool so theres no WAY he was going to the nba last year if ever
I'm advocating that NCAA Players should be paid openly...by Agents, by shoe companies, even by the Universities themselves...They can market themselves online and sell online jerseys if they want...there should be NO RULES against them being paid...OR NOT...it isn't MANDATORY...pay them million$ or NOTHING...let the MarketPlace decide...they are being paid now...let's just make it more honest and open...I invite dialogue but no personal attacks please...
the lakers are doing to lonzo ball what 76ers did to ben and joel
Colleges will NEVER pay players a salary, the ncaa is not professional sports, y’all need to understand that theres a difference between school payinh players and players making money off of their own brand. Thats truly whats criminal about the ncaa
Its awesome baby!!!
Just give money prize for whoever makes the playoffs and big money for the championship.
It would be fair, up until it ends up being a meritocracy. The majority of the money generated by the NCAA is made from the football and men's basketball program. That money is then distributed to other sports, especially the least lucrative sports like college soccer, baseball and women's programs.
How funny would that be...... D’Lo gets shipped off so they can draft Lonzo. Than Lonzo gets shipped off for Morant lol.....
Can schools afford to pay $7 million/year for athlete salaries? Example: Top Athletes earn flat wage, similar to other part-time college students. Let's say $20.00/hour X 15 hours week = $300/week for starters, $200/week other team members. Plus, they get free tuition, rent/utilities, food, books, uniforms/gear. At Ohio State/UCLA/Texas/Boston College, first team players would earn package worth $60-80,000/year total. Not bad for 18-22 year old college student-athlete. Do you think colleges/universities could juggle things, downgrade some sports from "team" to non-paid "club" status, make it work? If 500 players earn salaries, schools would spend $7m/year in salaries. Comments?
If this was the old draft lottery rules i would be feel so good as a Knicks fan with a top 3 pick, now knowing our luck we’ll pick 5th and end up with culver or cam 😭
Cam is solid fam! signed, a Lakers' Fan lol
imagine if Stephen A had said that molly ? lol Max, Stephen A, and Will Cain is my all star line up
So your going to pay Wrestlers, baseball players, basketball, football, hockey, volleyball, Lacross, swimming, Rugby. Etc...you think colleges can afford all that?...no. let them get paid for likeness and autograph...but to be straight paid is stupid.
College athletes get paid. It’s called a scholarship. Want a bigger scholarship? Get better. Simple as that. 😊
Jerah Selig ok don’t pay them, but the NCAA doesn’t allow these kids to make money on their own. If someone wants to pay Zion for his autograph, what right does the NCAA have to not allow it?
Imran Ali why should he be paid for his autograph? He’s a 20 year old kid playing college basketball and he’s being asked for an autograph. That’s not special enough? That’s not big enough?
Jerah Selig because there are companies that will provide him money to sign memorabilia. The school doesn’t have to pay. He is making money for himself off of his talent and popularity. Age doesn’t matter. Does that mean if I get a scholarship and I’m a good dj, that I shouldn’t be allowed to go and DJ for money. Does that mean if someone is a famous actor and get a scholarship to go to school they can’t use their fame to make money on the side?
Lmao they bring up lonzo even tho hes not playing and the lakers are 6-19 without him
Someone smarter than I should approach the top 80 players in a high school class and pay them $100,000 dollars each to play in a separate development league against each other. some TV network would buy that.
If schools won't pay athletes, they should be allowed endorsements and sponsors. Either way, college sports as we know it will be gone by the end of the decade.
FREE LSU
They need profit sharing like the Big 3 get GM Chrysler Ford
They should go back to drafting straight from high school.
Im sure Dick Vitale at some point said Lonzo was gonna be great in the NBA
Max getting paiddddd espn and hbo?? 😂 Stephen a too
For the true amateur sports fan this would be the end of college sports, it would simply be glorified B+ league sports, displaying more greed and forcing price wars in the amateur games, raising ticket prices everywhere and in my opinion ruining the amateur sports world on the whole.
I have lost all interest in professional sports due to Pro athletes greed and paying amateur athletes would only increase the issue and eventually negate the desire to watch, there is NO actual need for it as it is ONLY entertainment making athletes entertainers on the same level as actors meaning they are not actually necessary to sustain life.
We would soon be seeing T-ball level kids being compensated for their play and refusing to play unless they got an I-phone, Play Station, that trip to Disney Land or some damb bling.
Every sports announcer supporting paying amateur athletes simply vues it as an opportunity for them to also make more money.
We grow up as children playing sports solely for the purpose of playing the game, the LOVE OF THE SPORT, it should still be about loving the game and ONLY the VERY BEST deserve to get paid for it and when they have proven they deserve it, with skill, ethical and moral values and continued respect for the game and above all respect and a sincere APPRECIATION for those that are willing to pay THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO WATCH ENTERTAINERS PLAY GAMES FOR A LIVING.
If college athletes ever start getting paid the I walk away, and attend more high school or elementary school sporting events.
Remember the real reason for playing in the first place, For love of the game.
Bruh they get paid under the table plus full scholarships. Lots of people schools don't make money off of sports and did yall forget the main purpose of a college is for education?
The main purpose for these elite college athletes isn’t education. Don’t kid yourself.
@@jeffdaman6969 I'm not talking about the athletes, I'm talking about the whole university they go to
Pay Taco Fall his money. He needs a deal with Taco Bell now! 🌮
Ben simmons was the #1 pick an his team didn't make the tournament so how many units does he get
Modern day slavery especially the ones who don’t go to the nba
Working for free.
What does college ball have to do with the situation in Libya
But yet they get a free education free housing best tutors the school has a meal plan for free. Modern day slavery are the ones that had to take out student loans and pay it for 40 years after graduation with a big interest rate. I am thank full for the us army everyday.
Peter Griffin the current system we live in unless you are above middle
Class you are a debt slave it’s not a big mystery. But some of these players have only developed basketball and only have time to. They get left behind with no education or game . And a set of skills that doesn’t help you get a job
Paying them would help them stay in school but them money hungry people at the top ain't gonna lose a dime believe that
Stephen A be loud af for no reason 😂😂😂😭😭
Naw they should wait.They already get paid millions in the NBA just to dribble a ball
It's not just dribbling a ball it's playing a sport at a high enough level that facilitates a multi billion dollar business.
Kalu Abay if the college player isn’t good enough for the NBA, where’s the risk? How are they slaving away with free housing and education ?
They are making the NCAA millions to billions. Some athletes can't even eat when there not playing during the seasons, but you want them to play for free.
@@Logical281 that housing and "education" is a fraction of what they would have to actually pay the athletes if they split the revenue. Half the kids leave with a liberal arts or criminal justice degree or basic 101 classes because the school tells them to take easier classes to have more time to play sports.
Alow players to get paid from oustide the NCAA, Booster, school, endorsements etc... Then they don't have to pay everybody and still benefit. They won't because it'll create an unfair competitive advantage for schools with more money and sources to pay players.
If they paid the players their would probably be less one and dones
Zion should refuse to play. That would destroy these guys thinking they can profit off of them. When athletes like Zion take a stand they can make change happen.
Also SAS must know something. He keeps throwing Lonzo name in trade talks. So that means something is gonna happen this summer with him
So the guy that averages 2ppg and is never going to be a pro should get payed as well, im personally for the one and done to be gone and let kids super talented go to the nba right away and the kids that arent as good go to college without a pay and let them develop, or let the kids who finish school go to europe and play pro ball for a year before the nba
Milan Jovanovic if you get rid of that rule. Guys who you think are not ready will want to go the nba cause of the money. And you won’t be able to stop them either
Kids will stay 2yrs in college if they get paid. You see how they all laughed.
It never happened and it will never happen
Spoiler alert: the Lakers are somehow brought up in this segment.
And they lost by a missed free throw
Now that the gleague is changing I think they should just be able to skip college all together
Giving D1 Athletes a full-ride scholarship with tuition + boards seems fair to me.
Samus Aran so if your employer said hey I will give you a place to stay and health insurance and that’s it. You can’t make money anywhere else or else you will not be able to work in your field. Would you be ok with that?
@@ImranAli-er8nk don't the athletes get an education as well?
There’s a lot of work places that pay for you to get your masters. Does that mean since they are paying to get your masters, they shouldn’t pay you a salary since they are providing you to further your education?
@@ImranAli-er8nk I can think of 99 problems more pressing than this issue. A kid going to college for free, and playing a game he loves is the least of my concerns.. No one is forcing them to go to college and play basketball.
Samus Aran then don’t talk about it if it’s not your concern. This is a sports talk show so they will talk about it and people like me who care will talk about it. No one is saying pay the players, they are saying allow the players to make their own money. If a company wants to pay the players to endorse a product then they should be allowed to make that money. The schools don’t have to pay shit
Give the kids all kids 100,000 a year
Kids already on full ride scholarship, why not pay for school for kids who can't afford school, no need to make the more fortunate more fortunate and make the hard workers work harder, compensation sure, millions .....naaaaa
All college sports are fair except College football
Lonzo hasn’t even turned 23 yet and they’re talking about how he hasn’t become a good player. There’s no patience to let these kids develop
Saint Aubyn it’s soo unfair. Put unrealistic expectations on this kids now. But at the time these kids expect make a instant impact straight away
True.
That just how it is in sports. If you’re young and you’re not immediately a star then you’re a bum and a bust.
They need to let these young players develop.
Magic throwing punches in the air
He's trash
Idk I would feel some type of way if I’m in school surviving off Financial Aid & working a part time jobs knowing their kids who already in school because they play Football or Basketball & now making more money not only as much as the students but even the professors 🤨🤔🧐
And I'm sure the professors are making more money than you. See how that goes, lol. Don't believe that all teachers are broke and I'm staying that as someone whose dad is a teacher.
At LEAST put the money in a trust fund till after graduation
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