A Virginia woman bought her dream car. Then the repo truck came - for someone else | NBC4 Washington

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2024
  • A Virginia woman says she found herself in a financial mess after discovering a private seller of a used car lied about the vehicle. Consumer Investigative Reporter Susan Hogan says what happened next left the unsuspecting buyer with the burden of an outstanding debt she didn’t even know she had until it was too late.
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  • @brianwong4458
    @brianwong4458 28 дней назад +2681

    this seller needs to be arrested for committing fraud.

    • @Hellcat71782
      @Hellcat71782 24 дня назад +37

      Ya think

    • @A-uf3so
      @A-uf3so 23 дня назад +40

      ​@@Hellcat71782Probably won't happen. He's a friend of a friend who pulls strings, most likely. Probably a very friendly/ fake soulless man!

    • @HardCold-Alquan
      @HardCold-Alquan 23 дня назад +6

      I guess no one really knows what to do on the matter.

    • @archie_bunker
      @archie_bunker 23 дня назад +14

      arrested? he would be out on the streets in an hour.

    • @GrowHighO
      @GrowHighO 23 дня назад +3

      Really Brian?

  • @mandelstamm
    @mandelstamm 27 дней назад +1808

    Navy Federal should have caught it. They're supposed to check the VIN to make sure there's not a lien on the vehicle with a different lender.

    • @CatharineCummings
      @CatharineCummings 24 дня назад +74

      💯💯💯💯

    • @mackcity74gdn89
      @mackcity74gdn89 24 дня назад +137

      If the dmv coutldnt catch wat make u think the bank would

    • @justhere4721
      @justhere4721 24 дня назад +128

      ​@@mackcity74gdn89If they don't check they won't know. A lot of people clearly didn't want to do their job. That's why it took the news to step in just for her to get answers. Everyone just kept ignoring her.

    • @rgodon7552
      @rgodon7552 23 дня назад +128

      Carvana isn’t exactly known For being on the up and up with their paperwork. My guess is that navy did their due diligence and carvana was just late filing the lien.

    • @RareJewel777
      @RareJewel777 23 дня назад +19

      Navy been fu(!^g up lately...

  • @jahoyhoy9097
    @jahoyhoy9097 22 дня назад +351

    Navy Federal should give her money back for failing to verify the VIN. Shame

    • @kevins9688
      @kevins9688 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@biggzacc2145 what process is this. I thought only the lien holder could do this.

    • @biggzacc2145
      @biggzacc2145 20 дней назад

      @@kevins9688 just like they steal homes.

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      ​@@biggzacc2145 speak proper english

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      ​@@biggzacc2145 degenerate

    • @saldiven2009
      @saldiven2009 6 дней назад

      It depends on the state.
      I work for a credit union in Georgia. Currently, I'm in mortgage underwriting, but I was in automobile financing for 10+ years previously.
      Georgia's DMV has an automated telephone service that you can call and enter in a VIN. The service will disclose the year, make, & model of the vehicle on record, as well as the owner of record, the mileage as of the last time the title was recorded, and any lienholders that appear in the DMV records.
      I do not know if any other states have a similar system. But, we were a small credit union, so we didn't want to handle financing out-of-state private party automobile purchases because it was so much more difficult to verify the status of the title in those cases.

  • @user9b2
    @user9b2 13 дней назад +147

    The seller should be charged with straight forward fraud.

  • @thinline8504
    @thinline8504 27 дней назад +1152

    WAITTT SO THIS MAN IS WALKING AWAY WITH 25k !?!?!?!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!

    • @SammyC-ro5jq
      @SammyC-ro5jq 24 дня назад +128

      Very disturbing. Might inspire copycats

    • @sblijheid
      @sblijheid 24 дня назад +59

      She should've filed a lolice report in PA. Minus Philly and Pittsburg, law enforcement in PA seem to enjoy throwing criminals in jail.

    • @IamDrDee
      @IamDrDee 24 дня назад +12

      Pittsburgh*

    • @Look_What_You_Did
      @Look_What_You_Did 23 дня назад

      Back the blue till it happens to you. Loser.

    • @speedfreak8200
      @speedfreak8200 23 дня назад +13

      Wait, so this guy is the all caps guy !?!?

  • @Dani-fc1hc
    @Dani-fc1hc 24 дня назад +1116

    He knew exactly what he was doing, he needs to be in jail for fraud.

    • @08baby25
      @08baby25 23 дня назад +13

      Yes, I know someone who was trying to low-key do this. Luckily, they repo the car before they could sell it.😏 Unfortunately, these scammers barely get caught.

    • @l.c.3150
      @l.c.3150 22 дня назад +12

      So many crimes occur and they have the victims face and name but often time they don’t publish the criminal’s name of picture. Shame.

    • @NeoFreshair
      @NeoFreshair 22 дня назад +11

      The lady could sue him for distress and she's got winnable case ........ But I have suspicion that the seller might be an enforcement agent and everything brushed under the carpet so quickly ..... ........ And what's disgusting is no one gave her answer nor helped her until news outlet intervened ....... The system work for the rich and the authorities but not working class ......

    • @neilcharles2520
      @neilcharles2520 20 дней назад

      What make him different than the people who run America?They steal by the billions.

    • @willysnowman
      @willysnowman 18 дней назад +5

      He was just acting like President Trump...

  • @NomadicCratic
    @NomadicCratic 13 дней назад +41

    Arrest the seller. I’m glad she got her car back.

  • @412yinzr
    @412yinzr 5 дней назад +15

    $25K for a Porsche should’ve been a red flag for a scam.

    • @firewater365
      @firewater365 4 дня назад +1

      You can get a used Porsche Macan for as low as $30,000…… what she paid isn’t that far off and it wasn’t from a dealership. 😊

    • @emiralbdyri9668
      @emiralbdyri9668 2 дня назад

      Not really. It’s a 2020 Macan

  • @StopCensoring-fq5fl
    @StopCensoring-fq5fl 27 дней назад +1115

    25k Porsche is a red flag

    • @peryole
      @peryole 27 дней назад +64

      Exactly! Many luxury brands do not depreciate a whole lot in value. I'd never recommend anyone buy a late model luxury car, it's likely to cost more than a well negotiated new car. I owned a 2010 TSX that was totaled 3 years later, it has 44k miles on it. The insurance company paid me almost 27k for it, I paid 29500 for the car, the original sticker price was 36k. I paid off the 5k i owed and bought another one and put down 15k.

    • @tylermallory2504
      @tylermallory2504 27 дней назад +120

      just a ceyanne and a few years old. 25k is about right... I'm currently shopping for a 2012 less than 30,000 mile panamera and they can be found for about 40k

    • @TheG60528XiJinPing
      @TheG60528XiJinPing 27 дней назад +1

      You are all handicapped and know nothing. It's a fckn 10 year old Porsche SUV.

    • @thinline8504
      @thinline8504 27 дней назад +166

      BRO ITS A 2015 LMAOOOO. and probably has like 60k miles on it... the price seems right. CHECK GOOGLE. they go for even less bro.

    • @humbleiamsmith4197
      @humbleiamsmith4197 26 дней назад +7

      That’s what I said I would’ve thought: A juicy Lemon😂😂😂😂😂

  • @cordelearts
    @cordelearts 28 дней назад +761

    Buying a used car from a dealer isn’t that much safer.

    • @dougfredricks2017
      @dougfredricks2017 27 дней назад +89

      Plus they rob you with hidden Fee$ 😂

    • @ryder4508
      @ryder4508 25 дней назад +54

      Especially Carvana. 😂

    • @temujinkhan6326
      @temujinkhan6326 24 дня назад +47

      well people are robbed more at car dealers than private sales

    • @EconomicWarfare
      @EconomicWarfare 23 дня назад +7

      💯

    • @KK-qv2df
      @KK-qv2df 23 дня назад +9

      Automation in Laurel Maryland is thee worst. They sold me an overpriced Certified used car which had a fire in the transmission. I gave them Hell but the still got away with fraud.

  • @SunshineCatwoman
    @SunshineCatwoman 19 дней назад +17

    It was my understanding that if you owe money on a car, you never even get to SEE the title until you have paid it off.

  • @rhondaburke2231
    @rhondaburke2231 22 дня назад +36

    My confusion is why Navy Federal didn't secure a clear title. As a former Bank Compliance Officer my lenders were not allowed to release the funds until we had a clear title. No duplicate titles were allowed. Also, how was the duplicate title obtained. It should have been mailed to the lien holder. I have so many questions. There were a LOT of chances for this to be caught before it got this far. However, the bottom line is that the seller needs to serve time.

  • @PhrontDoor
    @PhrontDoor 24 дня назад +361

    I'm astonished that her BANK would finance such a car, as they have an even HIGHER obligation to due-diligence that title.

    • @Cmdrjo
      @Cmdrjo 22 дня назад +28

      I think it is more of the DMV'S responsibility. They issued a title to Navy Fed showing they have security interest in the vehicle, and registered the car to the new owner.

    • @dougfisher1813
      @dougfisher1813 21 день назад +6

      That car is hideous.

    • @Phillipnoogen
      @Phillipnoogen 21 день назад +5

      ​@dougfisher1813 yeah Porsche are ugly for being a premium car brand. No way I would pay a lot of money for their style.

    • @PowerNGlory
      @PowerNGlory 21 день назад +2

      @@dougfisher1813 It's better than that furniture in her house.

    • @stanleydogood8874
      @stanleydogood8874 21 день назад +3

      😂 y’all some mean Vatos !!!

  • @dollyglowdoll2752
    @dollyglowdoll2752 25 дней назад +407

    She's sooooo lucky that she got her car back!

    • @Freedomcustom
      @Freedomcustom 22 дня назад +27

      By bad PR and by technicality in the long run it would of cost them more to NOT return it

    • @gammagogeta
      @gammagogeta 20 дней назад +33

      The dude was the lucky one, no arrest and pocket 25K and they even know who he is and said they will do nothing about it.

    • @salemsmith2878
      @salemsmith2878 10 дней назад +1

      Carvana can write off the loss, so ultimately we the tax payers pay. That said this is something worth paying for.

    • @RuyGedares_GuyRedares
      @RuyGedares_GuyRedares 9 дней назад +3

      Guy is probably on the run, or even left the country. ​@@gammagogeta

    • @axelfoley1406
      @axelfoley1406 5 дней назад +2

      @@gammagogeta Lucky? His info is probably plastered in every state govt database in the country, lol.
      He will eventually get his.

  • @cragre28
    @cragre28 21 день назад +31

    My aunt had bought a used car with cash with an actual clean title. It was back when Nissan Maximas were in the top 5 most stolen vehicles. She was working at Lowe's one day and someone said they saw her car being towed. She ran out there and a towing company said they were repossessing it. She told them she doesn't owe anything on the car but they wouldn't listen. She called the cops and they told her it was civil matter, even though you know if were of their or their relatives 's cars being towed they would step in, and they couldn't do anything. Finally the manger at Lowe's told the towing company if they did not leave without the car he would trespass them. She found that people were stealing cars by making up false repo letters and sending tow companies in to get the cars, then taking the cars to an empty lot in another state. The thieves would then come get the car strip it for parts and leave it somewhere. The cops could have ended a stolen car ring if they had just listened, but they are lazy and won't listen.

    • @RoommateWiLLE
      @RoommateWiLLE 5 дней назад

      Inside Job

    • @davea4245
      @davea4245 2 дня назад

      The Goons with Guns lazy and incompetent? 😲 Say it's not so...😳

  • @chrismanning1171
    @chrismanning1171 23 дня назад +43

    Years ago I found a NSX for sell my dream car. The price was too good to be true. I reached out to the seller and told him I wanted to do the transaction in front of a police station. I never heard back from him. I knew it was a scam.

    • @nwezetx1
      @nwezetx1 18 дней назад +1

      Awful grammar and incoherent.

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@nwezetx1 like u ?

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      ​@@nwezetx1 criminal lover

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@nwezetx1 you should follow your own advice on your youtube bio

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@nwezetx1 lurk much?

  • @certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224
    @certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224 28 дней назад +303

    Im glad she was able to get her property back.

    • @theshmalls
      @theshmalls 21 день назад +7

      It's a good ending for sure but legally carvana had every right to take that car back, she purchased it through a fraudulent transaction. Normally in these cases the original seller repo's the car and it's up to the person who got scammed to sue the fraudster for their money back.

    • @Pete391
      @Pete391 21 день назад +6

      It never was her property............Until they felt sorry andfgave the car to her...

    • @lefthanded5473
      @lefthanded5473 8 дней назад +1

      I wouldn’t even want the car honestly. If the seller had to fraudulently sell the car in the first place, you know damn well they skimped out on the maintenance.

    • @gabesmath105
      @gabesmath105 14 часов назад

      @theshmalls
      it makes me glad to be one of those "legal address i've never lived at" type of folks 😂😂

  • @SmokeyTreats
    @SmokeyTreats 27 дней назад +211

    Seller/defrauder should be in jail!

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 16 дней назад

      Innocent people in prison, criminals walking free on the streets. Innocent people without rights, criminals have all the rights. The biggest criminals run the country.

  • @mtmgrindd4966
    @mtmgrindd4966 21 день назад +10

    Crazy thing is i just looked these cars up and They are priced 25-30000 so i can understand how it wouldn't seem like a scam

  • @adriananoelle4699
    @adriananoelle4699 23 дня назад +25

    Poor lady! I’m glad it had a happy ending!

    • @phantommah8042
      @phantommah8042 20 дней назад +4

      Yup. Scammer won and she got her car everyone won

    • @gabesmath105
      @gabesmath105 14 часов назад

      it makes me glad to be one of those "legal address i've never lived at" type of folks🤣🤣

  • @MilePost106
    @MilePost106 27 дней назад +563

    The problem this country has, they are way to lenient on criminals! But tough on law abiding citizens!

    • @unclebrother6244
      @unclebrother6244 24 дня назад +30

      Brother, your comment should have a million thumbs up! You are 100% correct. If we had penalties similar to what you see in places like Singapore, people would think twice before committing crimes.

    • @btank2453
      @btank2453 23 дня назад +16

      😂😂😂 the US has the biggest per capita prison population on the globe.

    • @unclebrother6244
      @unclebrother6244 23 дня назад +11

      @@btank2453 while that's true, your comment is misleading. The overwhelming majority of American inmates are serving short sentences. In otherwords, we have more incarcerated ppl than any other nation, however the majority of them will be released in a short time (less than 5 years) and they'll be replaced right away with other lawbreakers, who will likely serve short sentences. Most inmates in America aren't serving long, harsh sentences for violent crimes. The ones serving long sentences are just a small fraction of the overall inmate population. With that being said, the comment at the top is correct. The American penal system is too lenient on criminals. It's a game of catch and release after a short stay in prison.

    • @rewing4880
      @rewing4880 23 дня назад +1

      Agree with the first half of what you said but they are too tough on law abiding citizen? I had a friend that used to say that. No big deal he had no insurance on his vehicle. Wasn't needed as he had no drivers license. Car was a rattle trap that would never pass smog and he drove it for years before some cop noticed the expired tags. Then it was "Hey man, can you come over and give me a ride?" We don't talk anymore.

    • @clementthurn1992
      @clementthurn1992 23 дня назад +1

      @@rewing4880 Good for you. what a miscreant. Shame on him.

  • @glbernini0
    @glbernini0 24 дня назад +208

    Got to publish the mans name & address, he needs to be made famous!

    • @BlindBiker3
      @BlindBiker3 23 дня назад +3

      We need to have mercy on him, but he should know that what he did was wrong.

    • @clarkwilson6340
      @clarkwilson6340 22 дня назад +24

      @@BlindBiker3 LOL no mercy and why did he repent or you a criminal too huh;

    • @shoechew
      @shoechew 21 день назад +19

      “We” need to have mercy?
      This is not my problem or yours.

    • @MM-jf1me
      @MM-jf1me 21 день назад

      ​@@BlindBiker3
      Stealing $25K from a stranger is a lot to forgive, especially when the thief has never shown remorse.

    • @refugiolopez3084
      @refugiolopez3084 21 день назад

      @@BlindBiker3 you suck

  • @mrnobody3161
    @mrnobody3161 21 день назад +8

    Good job 4 Responds for helping a victim with this problem.

  • @Thrawn90
    @Thrawn90 21 день назад +5

    Note to self. Don't by a Porsche at half price from some rando on the side of the road.

  • @Braider_on_the_run
    @Braider_on_the_run 26 дней назад +168

    He sold a stolen car, give her, her money back. Damn

    • @rewing4880
      @rewing4880 23 дня назад +29

      Dude. She got the car back and its hers with no more payments. She got a deal in the end and I am happy she did. But she went thru a lot of stress and she might have had a law suit for a lot of money. in her future. Carvana and the Credit Union saw a huge public relations storm coming and they did the cheapest solution possible. They gave her the car. Its a good story with an awesome ending.

    • @habibifather7681
      @habibifather7681 22 дня назад

      You fall for a scam you don't deserve your money back for being so stoopid.

    • @Freedomcustom
      @Freedomcustom 22 дня назад +3

      Car wasn't stolen he had purchased it but baled on the repayment plan and sold it on

    • @alextaylor8776
      @alextaylor8776 21 день назад +4

      @@rewing4880Hold up, who said she has no more payments. The bank loaned her $25k and she has the car back, the bank is still going to want their money. I think she has to keep paying her monthly payments.

    • @seganaleqa
      @seganaleqa 19 дней назад +2

      Did you even watch the video? 😅😅

  • @1bluensx
    @1bluensx 23 дня назад +163

    Why do we continue to allow this? The seller needs to be arrested and held accountable

    • @sootuckchoong7077
      @sootuckchoong7077 22 дня назад +1

      Scammers seems to be winning.

    • @superdave8248
      @superdave8248 21 день назад

      Although I agree, the fruad happened in one state and in one county. The victim lives in another state and another county. So you have two different counties and two different states that could ultimately file charges. And all four policing departments are likely wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. And even Carvana's lending partner doesn't want to take a civil lawsuit out because of the expense involved with little to no likelihood of receiving even their legal expenses back.
      Had the victim in this case lived in the same state as where the initial fraud occurred, I suspect charges would have been placed on the person who illegally sold the vehicle. But once you cross state lines, unless there was bodily injury to a party or you are dealing with a fraud case in the seven figures so it gets headlines, the banks are likely just going to write the loss off.
      And yes, a case could be argued for interstate fraud which would then make this a federal case. As Navy Federal Credit Union would have used a mail carrier or electronic transfer to send the money to the victim so she could give the fraudster a cashier's check.

    • @Epic_C
      @Epic_C 21 день назад +3

      Democrats allow it that's why

    • @sootuckchoong7077
      @sootuckchoong7077 21 день назад +1

      Funny USA is One Country yet America is like separate 50 different countries.

    • @phantommah8042
      @phantommah8042 20 дней назад

      ​@@sootuckchoong7077 scammers have always been winning. Only losers are those who play by the book

  • @19lol19
    @19lol19 23 дня назад +8

    Sad it took a news station to solve this issue

  • @josmith8233
    @josmith8233 22 дня назад +6

    Get that fraud in jail. She should also sue the seller. Someone needs to get justice

  • @wayne5855
    @wayne5855 27 дней назад +175

    How did the seller have possession of the title with a lien on the car.? The Finance Co. should have the title. Very Bizzare.

    • @DecrepitBiden
      @DecrepitBiden 27 дней назад +41

      Maybe he faked it, or know someone who works in DMV (friend/family) to create the title for him.

    •  24 дня назад +35

      Because in some states, you can keep the title but they list the lien holders (i.e.) the bank, name on the title, AS THEY SAID IN THIS STORY!

    • @Ddccpp2152
      @Ddccpp2152 24 дня назад +2

      Exactly!!

    • @michaelb.8953
      @michaelb.8953 23 дня назад +14

      Pennsylvania isn't one of those states. You don't get the title until the car is paid in full and the lending institution then and only then releases the title to you once the last payment clears.

    • @djdetermine2066
      @djdetermine2066 23 дня назад +3

      You can look up, and you will see there aren't any leins on anything only for 21 days so the companies can file it with the DMV, mortgage companies, etc... UCC 11 check with your secretary of state see what they say

  • @cedricjackson7521
    @cedricjackson7521 24 дня назад +94

    Never buy anything off Facebook market

    • @bjvu9460
      @bjvu9460 21 день назад +8

      That is an ignorant statement when there are thousands of sale happening daily with no issues. If she had driven past his car with a for sale sign on it, would that have been better . Orf, if he had put the ad in a news paper like it was done 20 years ago, would that have been better?

    • @cedricjackson7521
      @cedricjackson7521 21 день назад

      @@bjvu9460 Facebook market is where most people get scammers scam people out of their money. You’re right about one thing if it’s too good to be true it’s not true, but still Facebook market is with scammers scam people out of their money.

    • @aymaanrehman2598
      @aymaanrehman2598 10 дней назад +1

      Bought my 100k Porsche off Facebook. I've also seen $4 million cars sold on FB. You just sound closed minded. This persons story was a one off case

    • @alli3219
      @alli3219 8 дней назад +1

      My Mitsubishi van I bought off Facebook has absolutely no issues, and there's no chance anyone will want to repossess it, because it's an older model.

    • @alli3219
      @alli3219 8 дней назад

      ​@@bjvu9460 Yep, early Craigslist and before that newspaper ads in the "bargain hunter" section... 😂🇦🇺🙋🏼‍♀️

  • @79bigmacs
    @79bigmacs 21 день назад +2

    A coworker of mine went out to buy a an old Camry during his lunch and wanted me to tint it for him. He came back with it and I starting removing the old tint. Me and the other techs were looking at it and are like…wow what a shitty paint job. Like they spray painted it…and then it’s missing one number on the VIN…and it’s greasy all over the car? Even painted the wheels? We were all joking that this car he just bought was stolen.
    I was only removing the tint and it’s just things that I noticed😂 Later that same day, he went to the gym and cops surrounded him when he came out and guns drawn. Car was stolen. Painted black and the car turned out to be bright cherry red. Apparently the little voice in his head didn’t warn him that this car was most likely stolen because the alarm wire or something was cut (he told me this small detail after the cops took the car). He said he thought it was weird but the seller made himself seem trustworthy. I was like ain’t no waaayyy😂 Shitty paint, wire cut, and missing one number on VIN? No way dude. Dead giveaway. He only bought it because of the engine he said and it was selling for 3k. I told him yeah it was probably too good to be true 💀

  • @santo8389
    @santo8389 23 дня назад +6

    How did her bank and the DMV not catch this?....SMH

    • @jaggsta
      @jaggsta 21 день назад +2

      because she bought it from PA and she transferred it to VA clearly PA didn't check for the lien before allowing VA to issue new title.

    • @iamthestig1
      @iamthestig1 21 день назад

      Finance records don't show up on your logbook (V5), only your details as the keeper, and technical info about the car.

  • @user-zs7no2qt3d
    @user-zs7no2qt3d 27 дней назад +82

    What a blessing to be able to get her car back!!

    • @Pete391
      @Pete391 21 день назад +1

      Wasnt her car...She bought stolen property......

  • @dens3096
    @dens3096 26 дней назад +76

    1. The seller not supposed to have a paper title until he pays off Carvana, it should have an electronic lien.
    2. Her state not supposed to register the car without transferring it from Pennsylvania DMV records. That transfer wouldn’t work if it has an electronic lien on it.
    3. Her local DMV would verify the fraudulent paper title.
    So something was wrong. Could it be an employee at Carvana who removed the electronic lien from the title? Most likely. And they probably done it many times already using their friends.

    • @user-jk2zm7uq5s
      @user-jk2zm7uq5s 23 дня назад

      Carvana and their finance arm are out around tens of thousands of dollars. They aren't even trying to get those tens of thousands of dollars back from the fraudulent seller.
      Why?
      Probably because they want to sweep this under the rug.
      Why?
      Probably because it's their fault that the fraudulent seller could clean/wash the title so well that neither the DMV nor Barbara's bank noticed anything.
      Tl;dr: If it wasn't on at least partially on Carvana they'd at least pursue the fraudulent seller - which they don't. Mmh.

    • @carriebartkowiak
      @carriebartkowiak 21 день назад +3

      1. Each state has their own way of doing it. I'm in Virginia, and here you get a temporary title from the dealer the day you buy the car, and then you get the official one (that looks just like the one they were waving around in the video; green/white and fancy decorations at the top) in the mail from the DMV a few days later.
      If you bought it with financing, on the title it will CLEARLY say that the car is under a LIEN, and along with your name and address, it'll have the name and address of the finance company.
      It stays that way until you fully pay the loan off, at which point you get what's called a "pink slip" - it's an official receipt from the loan company saying the loan is paid in full (and yes, it's on pink paper). You can take the pink slip to the DMV, and they'll re-issue you a "clean" title showing that there's no longer a lien on the car and that you own it outright.
      I've lived in 6 different east coast states and it's been the same in all of them. Maybe it's different out west?
      2. and 3. - Yep. The DMV *is* the state though, so these two points are saying the same thing. A flag should have popped up while she was standing at the DMV counter, as it's tied to the VIN.

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor 19 дней назад +2

      Carvanna has alot of issues

  • @glamoroussunset5361
    @glamoroussunset5361 20 дней назад +1

    Wow! This is absolutely wild. Thank goodness the investigative team was able to look into this and help her. It seems that without this investigation this woman would have been completely at a loss, dream car gone and a loan she is still on the hook for. Great work ! If only the seller would be held responsible by someone. Hopefully in the future.

  • @ericterashima6329
    @ericterashima6329 19 дней назад

    Thank you for investigating this story.

  • @Scrunchie_777
    @Scrunchie_777 25 дней назад +116

    Is anything ever not a scam anymore.

    • @treverhackett
      @treverhackett 10 дней назад +1

      Nowadays it dont seem like it

  • @oliverfreeman416
    @oliverfreeman416 23 дня назад +50

    Never purchase a luxury vehicle from a “private” person.

    • @98f5
      @98f5 20 дней назад

      Or maybe run a title check? A corporation is also a "person" and much more likely to fuck your ass

    • @codegeek-il5fm
      @codegeek-il5fm 8 дней назад +9

      Keyword here was "Carvana". Shitty company at best and scam at worst.

    • @manuelpiston
      @manuelpiston 4 дня назад

      Why not?

    • @oliverfreeman416
      @oliverfreeman416 4 дня назад +1

      @@manuelpiston Just be careful. Do your homework before. I had a family member who was deceived by a “private “ seller before.

  • @maxwellmurdoc9256
    @maxwellmurdoc9256 20 дней назад +1

    I had a similar thing happen to me...I sold my car to a small used dealership. 2 years later I get a call (at work) from the Cleveland Police Department that asked me when I was going to pick up my car and pay the $1200 impound fee. I asked what car because my car was right here with me. They told me it was the 1986 Pontiac 6000 STE which I sold 2 years ago. Cleveland Police told me that it was my problem now and I had to get it cleared up because the impound fee was going up every day. I contacted the dealership I sold the car to and he said that he sold it to another dealership who then sold it to a private buyer. My name stayed on the title through 3 other owners. The original dealer I sold it to said that he would take care of it. I gave him all the phone numbers and people at the Cleveland Police. Two days later I got a call from Cleveland again and they said that it was all cleared up and to have a nice day.

  • @Native722
    @Native722 15 дней назад +2

    The seller is a liar and needs to be charged and arrested.

  • @thersanothersidetome
    @thersanothersidetome 24 дня назад +44

    A Porsche with Lionhart tires is also a red flag…

    • @samsung5181
      @samsung5181 21 день назад

      😂😂😂😂, really.

  • @ElDell
    @ElDell 24 дня назад +40

    Another reason to stay away from Carvana

  • @skylagram
    @skylagram 22 дня назад +3

    I feel so bad for the woman and I’m glad she was able to get her vehicle back but Carvana sell stolen cars on a daily basis 🙄 they need to investigate that also.

  • @storeypictures
    @storeypictures 20 дней назад

    Great journalism. Thanks for pursuing a story that helped someone.

  • @your_royal_highness
    @your_royal_highness 27 дней назад +60

    I used to sell my own cars until I started leasing for about 25 years straight. I would want to know where the buyer got the car as Carvana is notorious themselves.

  • @sonshinethomas7986
    @sonshinethomas7986 27 дней назад +34

    All the best cars I have bought was honest preowned private sellers.

    • @Manskilz
      @Manskilz 27 дней назад +12

      Bought a 2002 Lexus LS from a guy. He kept it in the garage and had all the maintenance records. It literally looks brand new. The leather seats don't have any cracks and the headliner and carpets are spotless. All for 8k.

    • @andrewsackey5728
      @andrewsackey5728 14 дней назад +1

      The odds don't favor some

  • @meghan7411
    @meghan7411 22 дня назад +2

    Love that she was able to get her vehicle back 👏🏼 good job nbc !

  • @cyclemadness
    @cyclemadness 27 дней назад +50

    I won’t even sell my car privately. I just trade in. You do t get as much, but I won’t have to hear about it later.

    • @johnkeithracho3944
      @johnkeithracho3944 27 дней назад +3

      Yeah it’s easy that way to get rid of it.

    • @WhiteWolfos
      @WhiteWolfos 22 дня назад +2

      Trade in is stupid, but ig if you have alot of money it's no problem.

    • @HudsonGTV
      @HudsonGTV 21 день назад +2

      ​@@WhiteWolfostrade-in can be useful for tax purposes

    • @user-mu8ty7vc3y
      @user-mu8ty7vc3y 21 день назад

      If you're not hiding, you needn't worry

    • @johnkeithracho3944
      @johnkeithracho3944 21 день назад +1

      @@HudsonGTV you can use it as a down payment also.

  • @greenwoodlakehana
    @greenwoodlakehana 23 дня назад +30

    at the end of the day, this lady got a decent deal and her dream car. im happy for her

  • @mikeg3439
    @mikeg3439 21 день назад +2

    It costs a few bucks to have a car ownership traced, takes a few minutes. Never just hand someone cash who says "yeah this is my car."

  • @personnesenki4521
    @personnesenki4521 15 дней назад +2

    Good on NBC 4 for shaming these parties and helping this woman get to the bottom of this.

  • @gecko-ko362
    @gecko-ko362 24 дня назад +38

    Not really a happy ending. The seller should have been sued or arrested. The DMV and insurance company failed to see if the owner did surrender the car and plates. Carvana and the financial loan company failed to tow the car when it was in possession of the delinquent seller. 🤦‍♂️

  • @justdoingitjim7095
    @justdoingitjim7095 27 дней назад +40

    No consequences! And our lawmakers can't understand why crime in the U.S. is totally RAMPANT!

    • @malewire1263
      @malewire1263 23 дня назад +4

      The lawmakers are too busy committing crimes themselves!

    • @dzrewn1
      @dzrewn1 22 дня назад

      @@malewire1263exactly

    • @gregorypaine513
      @gregorypaine513 21 день назад +1

      Mainly Democrats

    • @aaa-hs3it
      @aaa-hs3it 20 дней назад +2

      thanks to sleepy joe!!!!

    • @jmiller297
      @jmiller297 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@gregorypaine513 So, how's Trump's hoo-hah taste, bruh??

  • @TwilightMysts
    @TwilightMysts 19 дней назад +1

    The thing that blows my mind about this is that the new owner registered the vehicle under her address (else the repo company couldn't find it) so she almost certainly had to register it under her NAME as well, which would clearly indicate that the car in question was NOT owned by the scammer. Seeing as how the new owner had no financing agreement with the company filing for repo, and the car clearly belonged to someone else, repossessing a car owned by a third party should be considered theft. Instead of repoing a car owned by an innocent person, this should be felony finance fraud or grand theft or something, and the guy who sold the car should be headed to prison. But no, it is easier to go after an innocent person who won't fight, than to go after the actual guilty party.

  • @rwest1966
    @rwest1966 23 дня назад +4

    Then she took it for a service and immediately realized she couldn't afford it

  • @harshoperator416
    @harshoperator416 28 дней назад +85

    NBC just found out that water is wet.

  • @javaskull88
    @javaskull88 27 дней назад +19

    I would buy a used car from a local person, subject to a mechanic’s inspection. But sight unseen from FB marketplace? No way.

    • @iamthestig1
      @iamthestig1 21 день назад

      I'd only buy from a dealer, and I'd do a CarVertical check on it.

  • @ajspice
    @ajspice 9 дней назад +1

    Good for her! I'm thrilled to hear she got her car back! She did everything right. Navy Fed should have caught that before issuing a loan. Nice to see the good people getting treated right.

  • @jon9103
    @jon9103 4 дня назад +1

    What the lender did is illegal, once the vehicle was retitled, they no longer had a claim to the car. What they did was grand theft auto, not a repssesion. They can't claim they didn't know, since they got her location from her title information.
    Whether or not the state should of allowed it to be retitled is a separate issue.

  • @user-qb8mj3nd6x
    @user-qb8mj3nd6x 24 дня назад +22

    Kudos to the News Team, Great Ending!!!

  • @illogicallogic6001
    @illogicallogic6001 24 дня назад +10

    The fact that they know who he is and will not arrest him is sickening. Now he will just run off to do this to someone else who will not be as lucky. Crazy to think how bad our country sucks today.

    • @aaa-hs3it
      @aaa-hs3it 20 дней назад +1

      we can thank stupid joe!!!

  • @pep590
    @pep590 23 дня назад +4

    The lady has some cool looking furniture too.

  • @Gene4666
    @Gene4666 21 день назад +2

    DMV should be liable since they reregistered this car and not flag it

  • @Africancharm
    @Africancharm 23 дня назад +19

    She’s so adorable. Happy for her

  • @HornetVF103
    @HornetVF103 2 дня назад

    The fact is if NBC had not gotten involved, this case would not have a happy ending. I commend them for putting time into helping this person.

  • @badlyniceness2315
    @badlyniceness2315 22 дня назад +1

    Thanks for helping. I did not expect this outcome.

  • @tylermallory2504
    @tylermallory2504 27 дней назад +17

    for every private seller that's sketchy their is a dealership in comparison...

  • @johnkeithracho3944
    @johnkeithracho3944 27 дней назад +14

    This is why we need to be careful.

  • @seer1
    @seer1 21 день назад +3

    Such a High Dollar Purchase should Never be purchased from a online seller.

    • @silentnight9655
      @silentnight9655 21 день назад

      Zakly.

    • @aymaanrehman2598
      @aymaanrehman2598 10 дней назад

      Bought my 100k Porsche off Facebook. I've also seen $4 million cars sold on FB. You just sound closed minded. This persons story was a one off case

  • @PoeticTea_
    @PoeticTea_ 21 день назад +1

    Im glad she got her car in the end, heart breaking she went through all that but im glad she got help.

  • @arfriedman4577
    @arfriedman4577 24 дня назад +12

    Carfax does not always have proper car info if its not reported or entered.
    Someone that worked at an autobody shop said this.

    • @americanbadass88
      @americanbadass88 22 дня назад

      if you do the bulk of your work yourself it won't show up on carfax as being maintained either.

  • @thereallevi9543
    @thereallevi9543 23 дня назад +20

    Glad she got the car back you can tell she loves that car and will take good care of it

  • @Joe-ij7vi
    @Joe-ij7vi 20 дней назад

    So glad new owner was smart to get car back.Whit the help news company.Some honest news people out there. God bless.

  • @justineebourgeois3420
    @justineebourgeois3420 22 дня назад +4

    The seller is a genius 😅

  • @bellford7067
    @bellford7067 25 дней назад +52

    she need to sued everybody for 2 months of emotional stress

    • @habibifather7681
      @habibifather7681 22 дня назад +4

      Lmao 😂😂😂😂 legal fees would not be worth it.

    • @renes3360
      @renes3360 22 дня назад +2

      2 months? She had it over 19 months

  • @teresaoconnell4790
    @teresaoconnell4790 27 дней назад +9

    I don't understand why and how she was allowed to keep it. I suppose Carvana has written it off on their taxes as a loss or an uncollectable debt. Or perhaps made some kind of insurance claim.

    • @bamarealist
      @bamarealist 23 дня назад +1

      Yeah, luckily they were willing to take the loss rather than fork it over to her, especially seeing all she’d gone through already.👍

    • @user-jk2zm7uq5s
      @user-jk2zm7uq5s 23 дня назад +3

      Carvana/Bridgecrest are out tens of thousands of dollars (since they neither have the car nor the money) - yet they don't even pursue the fraudulent seller. (4:33)
      Which implies that those shenanigans with the washed title might only have been possible because they did sth in a way they weren't supposed to...so they want the attention to go away.
      And of course TV (attention).

    • @david672orford
      @david672orford 21 день назад +3

      Hard to say because this story is not clear about what the seller did to "wash" the title. Either he sold it with the lien somehow hidden, or he sold it after somehow tricking the DMV into dropping the lien from the title. In the first case Carvana gave the car back to avoid the bad publicity that would come from making an innocent woman pay for their customer's fraud. In the second case, Carvana gave the car back because, with the lien gone, they had no legal right to take it. I lien fraudulantly removed is still gone.

    • @jaggsta
      @jaggsta 21 день назад +1

      Because car is legally in her name in VA the PA title is void at that point.

  • @shahs3262
    @shahs3262 20 дней назад +1

    This happened to me as well. The only difference was that the car was stolen and the person who sold it to me, stole it from me as well

  • @shitsugane
    @shitsugane 4 дня назад

    Well done NBC! This is the way to help. Excellent.

  • @AlejandroArchila1
    @AlejandroArchila1 23 дня назад +7

    25k for a 2015 Porsche?? Something is wrong right away. 💀❌

    • @cassinihuygens
      @cassinihuygens 22 дня назад +4

      No that’s about right lmao

    • @MightMouse2174
      @MightMouse2174 22 дня назад +3

      Depends on where you go that's about right

    • @chrisg5101
      @chrisg5101 14 дней назад +2

      Values of these macans plummet after the 5 year 50k mile warranty expires. These cars are very expensive to fix which is the reason you can pick them up at a good price if they are older. Porsche 911s not so much.

    • @AlejandroArchila1
      @AlejandroArchila1 13 дней назад

      @@chrisg5101 you right I always checking on the Porsche 911 and prices are always high so wasn’t expecting this to be this cheap but they do take depreciation different than other Porches.

    • @chrisg5101
      @chrisg5101 13 дней назад

      @@AlejandroArchila1 There are several reasons why this is the case.
      1. Cars that people love will retain value much better because its an emotional purchase.
      2. Also supply and demand causes this.
      3. also 911 prices have continued to rise at a fast rate. 10-15 years ago you could get one for 94k base model. Today the base is 114k. This helps with depreciation of the used 911s.
      4. Practical people usually drive the macan which is why they're buying an SUV. Practical people are more cost conscious. 5. Also the Macan has not gone up in price very much over the last 10 years. Especially when compared to the 911 price swings.
      These are some reasons why you shouldn't expect 911s to go very low in price. THere is a floor of demand where if they drop to, they get bought up quick. IMagine a 911 with 40k miles on it for 50k... I know you have to imagine because you won't ever see it lol.

  • @peryole
    @peryole 27 дней назад +8

    I would never recommend anyone buy a used luxury vehicle, especially a very late model. I've owned luxury vehicles for 15 years, I'm on my 3rd Acura. Luxury vehicles like mine do not depreciate in value very quickly, so buying a used one is almost as expensive as buying a new vehicle, in fact, the one I just bought in December was negotiated below the price of a used car a dealer near my home tried to sell me, I thought they'd lost their minds, I flew to another state that gave me nearly 7k of MSRP and drove back home. Only ignorant people pay sticker price.

    • @JW95322
      @JW95322 27 дней назад +1

      Just curious does the funds spent to go to another state and paying to register an out of state car counteract the 7,000 of MSRP?

    • @peryole
      @peryole 27 дней назад

      ​@@JW95322​@JW95322 yes, it was well worth it. I bought my truck in Dallas, I live in Louisiana, registration/tax/title/license is the same whether I buy the car in Virginia, Dallas, or here in Louisiana because all of that is based on where you live. I paid 260 for a first class ticket to Dallas, it saved me thousands. The only fee that would be different is the dealer document fees, which is cheaper in Texas than Louisiana.

    • @peryole
      @peryole 27 дней назад +3

      ​@JW95322 yes, it was well worth it. I bought my truck in Dallas, I live in Louisiana, registration/tax/title/license is the same whether I buy the car in Virginia, Dallas, or here in Louisiana because all of that is based on where you live. I paid 260 for a first class ticket to Dallas, it saved me thousands. The only fee that would be different is the dealer document fees, which is cheaper in Texas than Louisiana.

    • @JW95322
      @JW95322 27 дней назад +2

      Appreciate you answering that with class. Thats informational

    • @peryole
      @peryole 27 дней назад

      @@JW95322 there's no competition in Louisiana, there aren't many dealers where I live so they have no incentive to discount a car, find the letter volume dealers and I'll guarantee they're not letting a sale walk away.

  • @maxheadroom8097
    @maxheadroom8097 21 день назад +2

    That is why you don’t buy from crap sites like both of them

  • @NYRM1974
    @NYRM1974 13 дней назад +2

    The fake seller is going to jail

  • @mnjlittle7547
    @mnjlittle7547 24 дня назад +6

    Wait. Did she get that car for $25,000 then?
    That’s fucking crazy.

  • @MsAchampion
    @MsAchampion 25 дней назад +4

    Omg! I don't know what I'd do if that ever happened to me. 🥺 I love my vehicle, though I purchased it from a dealership. They did a great job in assisting the lady with getting the vehicle back. 👍🏾 😊 ❤

  • @aydinvideo
    @aydinvideo 22 дня назад

    All you have to do when buying a pre-owned car,truck or motorcycle is phone the DMV in the state which the vehicle's license plate is issued to, and give them that + the vin number. The dmv will let you know if there are any liens. Also, make sure the vin plate hasn't been tampered with and everything matches when speaking to the dmv.

  • @joesprague1464
    @joesprague1464 21 день назад +2

    Many cars end up on Craigslist because they can’t sell them honestly any other way.Most Craigslist sellers lie about condition or other important details.CYA when buying an expensive car.This lady was just plain lucky.

  • @gman3000
    @gman3000 27 дней назад +4

    My father and uncle know what to look for when they inspect cars: when they know something is off about the car in question.

  • @AlphaandOmega-mb1wg
    @AlphaandOmega-mb1wg 24 дня назад +14

    You're gonna learn one day, to stop shopping Facebook, Instagram, and Craigslist, like you know these people 😂😂

    • @mackcity74gdn89
      @mackcity74gdn89 24 дня назад +2

      Shid it happens at dealerships especially carvana

    • @personalfreedom7843
      @personalfreedom7843 23 дня назад

      I had great experience

    • @cassinihuygens
      @cassinihuygens 22 дня назад

      And you’ll learn one day that you’re never completely safe buying a car with a loan…

  • @khmbodia1972
    @khmbodia1972 5 дней назад +1

    I have learned from my mistakes never to purchase a vehicle online again. I had a bad experience once.

  • @hunyesmith03
    @hunyesmith03 18 дней назад +1

    A company that did the right thing? Without having to be hounded? Honestly, I’m amazed, I don’t know if they would’ve done something if local news did not get involved but they did right by her and that’s great! But yes always do a car history report, best advice you can ever get, plus if the vehicle check is wrong and causes you a loss like this then they will take responsibility and make you whole (at least in the UK).

  • @colinchandler6516
    @colinchandler6516 24 дня назад +5

    she so lucky you'll helped her

  • @BREND0h
    @BREND0h 23 дня назад +4

    Imagine buying a Porsche SUV off of Facebook marketplace😂😂😂😂

    • @Abbyyena
      @Abbyyena 15 дней назад

      Right?! I was looking for this comment! I would never!

    • @aymaanrehman2598
      @aymaanrehman2598 10 дней назад

      Bought my 100k Porsche off Facebook. I've also seen $4 million cars sold on FB. You just sound closed minded. This persons story was a one off case

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      One comment lurk

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      You cant afford one

  • @mdw453
    @mdw453 14 дней назад +1

    always remember, when u pay the vehicle off, make sure u take the gps off

  • @cowboy.1
    @cowboy.1 22 дня назад

    Why does my heart and prayers go out to this woman….

  • @MannyPain
    @MannyPain 23 дня назад +3

    The old saying "If it's to good to be true, it probably is"

  • @joshjordan1486
    @joshjordan1486 27 дней назад +28

    A random person is still more trustful than any dealer.

    • @pasques
      @pasques 24 дня назад +3

      ok whatever you say

    • @user-mu8ty7vc3y
      @user-mu8ty7vc3y 21 день назад +1

      I wouldn't say so

    • @aaa-hs3it
      @aaa-hs3it 20 дней назад +1

      ur like 10 years old im sure

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      Degenerate

    • @alain2467
      @alain2467 8 дней назад

      One comment lurk

  • @karenrich9092
    @karenrich9092 20 дней назад

    I purchased a car once and the company where we got the loan said they would take care of registering the vehicle in my name. When I purchased a utility trailer to pull behind it, the DMV said the car was NOT registered in my name. So, I now take the time to handle the registration myself and do so the next business day after purchase. This was yet another untrustworthy entity. I also renew my driver's licence in person due to DMV losing my check and asking me to pay a second time! How can we trust anyone?

  • @9OClockRant
    @9OClockRant 20 дней назад +1

    The seller should be charged, and the buyer should file a lawsuit against the seller.

  • @danasmith858
    @danasmith858 27 дней назад +21

    Don't buy from the usual suspects, PA title transfers require a notary,

  • @hotttt28
    @hotttt28 27 дней назад +4

    And used car dealerships are so much better ! People do your homework !