The Sad Death of Physical Media
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@@colorlesswonderland clickbait title .... Physical Media isn't dead
Movies outlived Blockbuster, and I'm confidant they will outlive Netflix if we can keep physical media alive.
We are just a niche market like vinyl now. So many amazing labels releasing stuff we NEVER would have got in dvds heyday
Physical media will never die
I think for me, the problem is that I don't have any device to play discs on. Most people my age move from dorm to dorm or small apartments, and we don't have the money or space to invest into a TV+disc player. Laptops with disc drives (or even hdmi/vga ports) are also becoming rare. Books, on the other hand, can be engaged directly straight outta the shop, and I can carry them around anywhere.
If you have an Xbox or a PlayStation 5 you have a player.
Edit: assuming it has a disc drive. Those consoles are beginning to go disc less.
@@neondarling379 since the discless ps5 is cheaper and was easier to get at leat in my country, I think even that option is dying out. Also idk if a college student can afford a ps5. The older model works as well tho, PS4 can play bluray too. Bt you are right, I do use my consoles for blurays a lot
That is a great point that I hadn't even considered when I was thinking of this topic. It took me genuinely 2+ years to finally see a PS5 in stores so I can imagine it was just as hard for everyone else to have some access to platforms to watch physical media. I also was the exact same way in college, all of my blu rays stayed at home because I had no way of watching them
PlayStation 4 accepts discs
That's why a book is one of the best present options. However, Play Station does play discs.
I WILL NEVER STOP BUYING PHYSICAL MEDIA. You can't beat the video and audio quality rendered from a physical disc than what you get from streaming services Providers. The downside to streaming movies is the streaming Provider can stop streaming a movie/series before you can finish watching the whole series. Plus, if your internet should crap out or your WiFi signal is weak, your experience will be a bummer. With physical media, I can build my own library and watch any movie WHEN EVER I want. The way streaming services are constantly increasing their costs to stream a movie, I'm predicting we'll see the resurgence of physical media in the future.
oh shit it’s nice seeing another video from you it’s been a minute, glad to see you back
He is back 🎉🎉🎉
In interesting news Arcane season 1 recently got a bluray announced as season 2 is coming soon to Netflix. Riot Games used Netflix as the distributor for the show, but now season 1 is getting a physical release so I'm really curious about the details of their distribution agreement.
I wonder if it's because it's not wholly a netflix original?
@@colorlesswonderland I would assume that is the reason why. Riot only used Netflix as a worldwide streaming distributor, so even though it's a "Netflix Original", Netflix themselves should have had zero input in the series both in terms of money and direction.
Additionally, the Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray are being distributed by GKIDS, who are an independent film distributor based in New York City. You may know them for distrusting a lot of animated works from Studio Ghibli and works such as: The End of Evangelion, The First Slam Dunk, Promare, Tokyo Godfathers and more.
I recently got their "The First Slam Dunk" Blu-ray and it was a bit barebones, only including the english trailers, audio commentary from the english cast, and one interview with the creator/director. But that may be just what they were given. I hope the Arcane Blu-ray includes the entire behind the scenes series they posted to RUclips called "Bridging the Rift."
happening in Australia too. I can buy dvds and cds from a store called JBHIFI but every other store just replaced their dvd sections with random stuff.
I buy my dvds from thrift stores, buying a random dvd for a dollar and taking it home and watching it is a great experience, even if I didn't like the movie.
Disney has stopped their supply of dvds to Australia so Disney collectors here have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping (shipping to Australia prices are insane)
streaming services in australia have bad selections, HBO doesn't stream here so we have to go through another streaming platform to watch HBO shows
Long live physical media.
I think what will accelerate its demise is shipping costs. Most places are charging $6.99 for standard shipping which is just utterly ridiculous.
I was in my local record shop a few days ago. I actually had to join a long queue of people who were buying CD’s, DVD, Blu Ray, 4k, and vinyl. Doesn’t look to me like physical media is dying any time soon …. 😊
This is why you pirate and donate directly to the creators. Its the only way to "own" certain movies
Always remember, Piracy isn't theft if purchasing isn't owning.
Art is a distraction from all the bad things happening right now and that's why we have to protect art. I'm glad, you're back. I missed you on RUclips.
I bought a blu-ray player today so I can buy more physical media and actually have a way to watch them. I have lost all trust I once had on streaming services and have started to collect my favorite media in a physical form that I can own, which no company can take from me, nor do I have to continue paying for a subscription. Since everything is a lot more expensive right now I have to choose more carefully what I want to own. But I have definitely noticed that finding dvd and blu-ray's is so hard which is really a shame. I'm ordering stuff from online since there isn't really many stores around me that have them anymore at all.
You can borrow disks from the library as well!!! Watched Sprited Away for the first time through a blue-ray player
@napiltree5917 that won't help physical media.
@@tonymalagon9644 I disagree, the increase in borrowing and repurposing of physical media such as dvds would tell the government that there’s still avid interest in physical media. It also helps people who can’t afford constantly buying dvds all the time. Why can’t we be flexible with this issue?
Check out your local second hand donation stores if you have any? But the are a couple of sales still going on from a few labels.
*There is still a couple of sales happening right now from a few labels, Physical store sale right now would be Barnes and Noble 50% off of Criterion collection.
This has completely made my week going into the holiday weekend! Glad to see you back on here 😭
I missed your channel so much! Funnily enough I am a Film and Literature student so your videos are hitting the perfect point between my two biggest interests
The design of lampshade in the back looks like it has post-it notes all over it. I like it.
Love to see you back!!!
the sheer coincidence of you making this video right after i found out about criterion and the barnes and noble sale. very excited to get more into movies, and hope to see you uploading more. love your videos
My 600+ films and 30+ TV shows aren't going anywhere!
Most are DVDs and my favorites on blu ray. I'm happy to own what I love, and not rely on a streaming service to revisit my favorite films. Collect asap! Build your own collection as streaming will continue to rise in price.
the only thing missing from the existence of stores like this imo (and I'm mainly making a comparison to record shops, but maybe something like kim's in nyc) is passionate and knowledgeable employees who can guide you. Browsing to find media online, you're gonna get force fed the same stuff that has been deemed important enough to be remembered by online communities. Tons of great films/records have been forgotten with time because the same classics get pushed to the top of rec lists, and if you're being guided by algorithms you're gonna miss out on it. Of course I miss the aspect of handling the packaging, reading the liner notes etc, but now that stuff is only for collectors and people who want to support the artists. There's lots to hate about streaming services, but we're nearly 2 decades deep into the answer being to pirate everything you want, and buy the stuff that you loved.
That was actually a recurring point that I kept seeing when I would watch news clips of video store owners talking about their shops. They all mentioned how a unique experience is tailored just to browsing these stores is talking to people who can recommend stuff to you. I used to love doing that when I would shop at movie stores in LA, just chatting with the employees about movies on their shelves
No way you brought your videos back! I finished punpun a few months back and waited to watch your vid on it but I saw you had archived it. I’m glad you’re back and I’m looking forward to seeing your vid on it!
I love going DVD/blueray hunting at flea markets. You can get like 20 movies for $10. I don’t even watch them much, more like collectibles
it's great to see you again man!
Millennials and younger gen x ers are pretty much the only generations who grew up with an expectation of owning a movie. For the vast majority of the time when film has been considered an art form, the home video market was either non existent or priced for wholesalers. We were really spoiled in the 2000s. It really makes you appreciate the efforts of specialty theaters, programmers, curators, and writers who have kept the reputation of older films alive.
I view streaming services as the modern day equivalent to cable. There are thousands of made for tv movies that have been lost to time. The ones that are still preserved on RUclips and through secondary markets are because of older fans. The only reason why modern streaming originals can disappear in this day and age is because you have too many things competing for peoples attention.
What I've come to really dislike about streaming services is that they cater to audiences who are fans of IPs and not necessarily fans of film in general. I prefer owning because it gives me the freedom to choose what I want to watch going back decades insted of being limited to a studios catalogue. Yesterdays equivalent would be mindlessly switching the channels until you settle on something to watch.
I've been impressed by the number of titles that have been digitally restored in the last 10 years but there are still too many titles that are still exclusive to DVD and VHS. Part of the problem may not only be the decline of physical media, but consumers and studios not investing enough in VOD, which makes up only a small percentage of digital sales.
OMG. You don’t know how happy I to see you back on RUclips / Booktube. I will continue to fight for physical media until my dying day. (Even to my own detriment.)
So excited you’re back!!!🤎
Dead to the mainstream audience, thriving with the collector's/enthusist market. It's the golden age if you are a collector. Physical media will never die as long the collector and people passionate about it exist. It just won't be what the mainstream audience uses.
Really love this video. I've been wanting to make a video on this topic for a while actually
Yayay you’re back!!
Kino Lorber and Shout, along with other boutique companies are doing great work keeping stuff on physical media.
Kino has really been upping their game.
It sucks cuz a lot of older and obscure movies have been at risk of being lost for years now. Like you said it could be streaming, but if the movie is taken off… what then?
Def gonna share this in my monster movie group.
I love collecting physical media and I love that stores have stopped fooling themself into thinking any place other than a specific physical media collectible store should have. Only collectors buy physical shows or songs so Best Buy doesn’t need to offer physical media, and the demand for collectible stores is rising so fast as the supply of media dwindles
Back into the wonderland. Love the podcast.
YOU'RE BACKKKKKKK AND TOO WITH SUCH A BANG BRUH!🤩
I've thought about you few days ago. You haven't posted anything for such a long time... And here you post the new video
Welcome back!🎉
So glad you’re back! Your videos got me to read the count of Monte Cristo lol
Did you enjoy it? I wish I could experience going through it for the first time again
@@colorlesswonderland Yea! it was the longest book I read up to that point, and now im not so intimidated by a book's size
I always thought it was the Count of Monte Crisco.
Spotted After Hours in the thumbnail! Always cool to see another criterion/physical media collector. Nice to see you’re back! 💕
Thank you!!!
“I just wanted to go out, and meet a girl. And now I have to die for it!”
Seeing this in my feed was such a pleasant surprise! I missed your vids so much
You're back!!!!!
Interesting video, you made some good points. My thoughts on why the physical music market (including both vinyl AND CDs, by the way) is holding up quite well - someone's favourite music really becomes part of their identity, so they want to own the album and listen to it over and over again. I think for a lot of people, movies have a lower 'repeat value', and they're happy with viewing them only once or twice. Also owning physical music has been mainstream for over 100 years, whereas owning physical movies really only became common in the '90s.
Not only vinyl but cassettes are on the rise. It is such a surprise for me.
Love scarecrow video. I’m really hoping they pull through. We may not be strong in numbers, but we are a passionate bunch.
respect man I owe a dvd collection because i love cinema happy summer from Romania
There is only 1 mainstream store that sells dvds/blu-rays (and the selection is shrinking) in Australia. I find most of mine at op shops and garage sales because that's the only place.
Half Price Books and thrift stores is where I go typically for blu-ray. I haven't been to Scarecrow Video in a year or so and I live next to Seattle, I need to shop there more to give my support.
YOU ARE BACK!!!
With the return of vinyl, we just need to push for the return of VHS or LaserDisc 😉😉
I think it's fascinating to think about how recent of a concept owning and being able to rewatch a copy of a movie or tv show actually is - what like 30-40 years? and only much recently in qualities that are actually comparable to seeing something in a theatre. For most of film history it has existed as something temporary. Movies used to come out for a few weeks, you either saw it or you didn't, and then it was gone. Definitely wouldn't have sat well with my FOMO brain!
Damn!! He's back!
Holy shit its you. I was looking everywhere for your ppun pun video cause it got me to read it, and I just couldn't remember your channel name lol. Amazing video as always man👍
Glad to see you
The last physical media store in our town closed like years ago. Even before the pandemic.
I stopped using all streaming services, except for Night Flight (highly recommend!), and I’ve been relying on second hand blurays/dvds, and buying new remasters of old movies from the boutique labels like the glorious Vinegar Syndrome.
Streaming is censoring, removing episodes and altering previous content for modern taboos. No way I’m paying those maniacs to take old art and alter it at their whim.
welcome back!
It doesn't surprise me that books remain as popular as they are. Unlike with movies, with books you're constantly engaged with the object itself.
the comeback of the year!!!!!
Criterion got me interested in collecting all-around physical media, from movies to CDs to books (though I've always been collecting books because used books were and still are so darn cheap). I'm hoping we get a Criterion release of I'm Thinking of Ending Things in the near future, doesn't seem like an impossibility considering we have a Criterion Irishman release
i came to this realization as well when it came to watching movies. If i seen a trailer for a movie i liked i would rent or buy it digitally if i couldn't find it on a streaming service. Now i just buy the physical copy, and funny enough it's the same cost but now i actually own it.
Vinyl made a comeback. VHS is making a comeback. I think we will be fine as streaming prices go up and will continue to.
so glad you have summer wars on bluray now thats true taste
HE'S BACK!!!
THE KING IS BACK
I'm a lifelong physical media enjoyer and currently don't have any streaming services. I used to, but I realized could easily go a few months months without using any of them and I'd rather save my money. They never had what I was looking for anyway! Plus if they do have something exclusive (like The Bear), I can just get Disney for one month and then leave. I don't want to pay month after month in case I want to stream.
The annoying thing is that where I live there's still one store with more niche movies, but then they charge 53 dollars for like, Eraserhead and stuff like that.
Lately I've been buying a few cd's as well. I would do vinyl, but I know I won't be getting a vinyl player with all the gear that you need.
Also the library has movies! Use the library!
Also I didn't know they won't releasing Killers of the flower moon... yikes.
It’s the death of brick & mortar for physical media, but physical media will always exist
Return of the king!
Ive recently been getting into cd's, they are very fun to collect and I like using my cd player
When streaming got popular (in Germany) i was a huge Fan and never watched DVDs anymore (or listened to CDs). But a while ago i got myself a blu ray Player again and got my DVDs back out (which i thankfully did Not get rid of, only moved them into an Album instead of their cases). Cause I am so annoyed by the development of streaming Services. Cancelled them one by one when they increased prices or tried to get me into their plan with ads. I the future i will just get subscriptions month my month on one service that has what i want to watch an that time and keep my favorites as DVDs Plan ob getting my CDs out again as well, though i think i got rid of way more than my DVDs unfortunately.
Netflix already took away Mike Flanagan's Hush and you cannot watch it anywhere else :/
I know three guys with a Star subscription! They use it to watch sports matches live in HD. I could never but I think that's the point of the service
The best on-demand media services I have are the ones on my shelf.
My goat is back
Moving out of my parents home and then moving again from college dorm to the first house I bought was enough to get me to drop like 90% of my physical media, its insane how heavy a single bookshelf worth of books can be let alone how much space they take up, same for blurays/manga/video games largely
Wsp colorless wonderland it’s Jack Noah’s friend nice video man
bring back physical media! i want to start watching some of my favorite tv shows on dvds now 📀
HE'S BACKK
Film frauds should watch Wallace and Gromit curse of the wererabbit and howls moving castle and compare who ‘deserved’ the Oscar
Sad to hear scarecrow is going through some rough times. Rented the Higurashi box set there when I couldn't find it anywhere else. Is kind of scary to think that these stories that we care so much about could just disappear. Thanks for the upload!
Killers of the Flower Moon has a 4k Blu ray released in Italy. A lot of collector like myself import movies from other countries. I myself have imported over 50 movies from the U.K., and 2 from Italy because the rights around those movies are different in other countries. 4k is region pfee (for the most part) so if you get the 4k then you have nothing to worry about. For the movies that aren't import a region B (europe, U.K, & Australia) player on Amazon from England, France, or Italy and your able get around any region locked discs.
Glad to see you again on my youtube feed 🩷
Must of been a fake death? I’m having a ball this Criterion sale 🤷♂️😎
You're hereeee 🎉🎉🎉
I love collecting physical media. For things that are new and don’t get physical media, I watch on the streaming service (so support the creator) and then pirate that shit for when I wanna rewatch it. I love piracy, as much as I also love artists.
Aye glad you're back! what happened to the berserk video?
If I am being honest, I really just wasn't as happy with that video as I wanted to be nor do I feel like I properly did Berserk justice. I went into that video with way too many scattered notes/ideas/topics and I don't feel like it conveyed all that I wanted to. I took down a bunch of videos I made because I wasn't proud of them!
@@colorlesswonderland I understand, I respect it. If its any consolation I still enjoyed them, this is a very genuine channel and thats getting harder to find these days. Keep up the good work!
Return of the king
it's not dead as long as I'm still buying em 😤
Years ago I went towards streaming, and my purchasing rate of dvd Blu-ray’s dropped. I would only buy physical media when I really like the movie, the rest I buy digital download .
Last couple years of favorite movies releases I would purchase on 4k physical even though I didn’t have a player.
Then this year watching RUclipsrs speaking of higher quality over streaming, then I decided to get a 4k player. Oh my! They are not kidding. Evan my Blu-ray’s look better, and believe it or not, so do the regular dvd look better on this player. So anyways going to my thrift store now.
I would've never stumbled upon this topic. Great video!
Think about it, putting no effort into obtaining the product, having an abundance of them, for a cheap price makes it feel like some amazing gmaes are valueless.
Looks like you have Bull Moose in MA, which is not nothing. But I hear ya, the options are definitely dwindling, overall.
If a streaming service won't release on physical. Just get an empty disk box. Pirate it and print off a picture for it. Simple
Physical media is not dying but going into hibernation, because if the demand comes back like how LP is trending again, the sale of physical media will. What bothers me more is the archival preservation of physical media. I don't know if during your research you came across the articles regarding media archival tools that are becoming obsolete due to upgrades and/or technological advances that is making it difficult and costly to every time have to re-archive every media due to the lack of long term backward compatibility, So studio's start making cuts to which movies are being stored. Causing some movies to truly become obsolete. Truly gone forever.
i have soooo much to say about this subject - my dvd / blu ray / 4k library is the rival of no one lol
id love to talk cinema with you someday
Man this is a happy day
I had the original Mortal Kombat on vhs if there were streaming services in power back then soccer moms would have banished it to the shadow realm.
Weirdly enough, I’ve been seeing a lot of listings on eBay (granted, these might be scams) of complete series of shows meant to be exclusive on streaming services get physical Blu-Ray copies. Was hoping you’d might comment on that, but I understand the importance of local and small businesses going under, it’s horrible to see.
China, they are generally really well done, and region free.
Many of those are Chinese bootlegs. I bought one of "The Killer" from Netflix. It was actually really well done imo.
As long as you the younger generations… late millennials zoomers and beyond want physical media as in movies they will continue ..physical media like games the die has been cast because that physical media is still somewhat dependent on having internet access either way thus making people say screw it i like the convenience of digital..but movies and tv shows have hope of continuing as physical media