Just the perfection of Flash's game is incredible. He starts by seeing that the probe came from the right side, so he scouted to the right. Then he saw the Nexus without the toss seeing his scv. Then he bunker rushes while still taking his own expansion. Then he blocks the reaver with minimal loss. Then does a timing push with 5 factories. And within all that, has nearly perfect control and still scouts for any hidden toss expansions. Just perfect. That's why he's 8-0.
@junonfraserst What u mean? he did 15 nexus which is a fairly common greedy protoss opening. If toss gets away with it, toss will have an econ edge. Vs flash everybody has to play cut corners and play greedy (except dear didn't get away with it.) No need to freak out, just because you've never seen one of the most common PvT openings doesn't mean other people haven't.
@junonfraserst because he knew flash was ahead after the bunker rush and would try to overpower him in the macro game. he made a calculated risk that the 3rd would kick in before flash's attack came.. it almost worked too.
@junonfraserst having his 12 nex taken down, it was pretty much the only way for him to come out with an advantage (or at least even) against flash... assuming flash played passively
@junonfraserst from dear's perspective, standard build has no chance--if flash didn't scout it fast enough, dear would start out with huge advantage obviously. It's just a gamble really, and I don't think he was wrong to do so.
@Dreamer066680 Being the best player of all time, he is supposed to be very dedicated and talanted. Its his duty to make the game more entertaining and better in every way, than just beat opponents, especially knowing that we are in the end of the broodwar scene. This is how u show u put your heart in the things u do. I cant show brighter example of that kind of player than the Emperor - Slayers_Boxer. Never been his fan but i admire how much he's done about the Esports about Broodwar.
@Andrewsafb71 Doesn't matter, if he ends up 2base off 1raxCC vs a failed 12nex into delayed 1base reavers, a 7 SCV loss or so can easily be regained. Not that he lost all the SCVs...
@junonfraserst Play bw more and you will see what I am talking about. Also do you think pros will use a build that loses to almost every build? Double nexus is a greedy build that can work if terran doesn't scout it early. Did you hear the commentators shouting when flash's scout scv heads toward south? They were shouting because if flash went all the way south and then to toss' base, it was too late to do a bunker rush.
@junonfraserst This is the problem with the youtube. You guys go on to criticize the player while you really have no idea what is going on. If my memory is correct Dear's proleague record was perfect this season(3 straight wins against terran, FBH, Sea, Light) before losing to Flash. Do you really think you know more bw than him?
@junonfraserst name a professional match in which terran bunker rushed after building a defensive bunker. You can't. (Although Ruby did a late crazy scv all in bunker rush once when he was in Airforce Ace, he is the probably the only one who did in recent bw scene because it has low probability of success and very risky)
@junonfraserst With normal way, there is rare chance to win against Flash, that's why everyone tries to do something radical to take advantages. And, Flash knows that everyone thinks that when they play against Flash. So, Flash uses the mind of thinking.
@Dreamer066680 Seeing pure perfection in play is entertainment in itself. I empathise with your feelings of boredom, however, I think it is just because other players have not been able to meet the same standard as Flash and thus all we get to see are seemingly "boring" games where Flash rolls over people. Of course, Flash is only perfect in a frame of imperfection, and I anxiously await someone to step up to the plate and offer us a nail biting and epic game.
@ppshchik lol, dude BW is well balanced not 100% but I'm sure it's 98% balanced. Jangbi just recently won an OSL vs the two best Terrans in the World Flash and Fantasy. It's just that Flash knows the game so well with his timings, reads, micro etc. You play to win right? Pro players will do anything to win in any game. Terran isn't OP, it's just Flash is IMBA.
@jinhk93 Think of it like football or basketball. People come to see their team WIN and their favorite players WIN. Esports is a profeesional sport. If you want just pure entertainment, you would watch the Harlem Globe Trotters or something.
Protoss is such an underpowered race. I love how BW fanboys kept saying how fucking balanced BW is yet a Protoss has yet to win a golden mouse or be crowned Bonjwa. Glad I switched to SC2. SC2 Terran is also fucking OP but not as OP as 70 damage siege tanks that rewards turtling whores like Flash.
@junonfraserst because it is a good strategy if it doesn't get scouted early... seriously you youtube noobs shouldn't talk about stuff if you don't know about it. If double nexus doesn't get scouted early, 1-barrack-expo terran is forced to build bunker early in his base to prevent any dragoon harassment. If he builds defensive bunkers, it is already too late for terran to do any bunker rush (double nexus holds quite well against two fac rush too in fact)
@Dreamer066680 Ok, so you don't call being a professional basketball player a job? Or being any kind of professional athlete? They all "perform on the stage in front of big audeince," but their main concern isn't just to be creative and entertain. Their job is to WIN, and fans love to see them WIN. Korean progamers have made Starcraft into a SCIENCE. They calculate everything down to near perfection, and it's tough to see creative plays. But you still see nukes, BM cc, pylon drawings, etc.
Recently its really boring to watch Flash games, its not what the game should be, this is killing broodwar! Here is why: Being on the stage, progamers should make show to entertain people, especialy when flash so high above other players, he should do creative and entertaining stuff to help broodwar survive longer time! Dont tell me he is not supposed to do that, because its not true. Continue -->
Just the perfection of Flash's game is incredible. He starts by seeing that the probe came from the right side, so he scouted to the right. Then he saw the Nexus without the toss seeing his scv. Then he bunker rushes while still taking his own expansion. Then he blocks the reaver with minimal loss. Then does a timing push with 5 factories. And within all that, has nearly perfect control and still scouts for any hidden toss expansions. Just perfect. That's why he's 8-0.
This is pure perfection. It's insane how far ahead of everyone else his gamesense and timing is.
Just let you know, from his Interview after game, he said toss should not try double nexus unless they are located diagonally.
Love this guy's play
how could the terran be in a decent position early game after committing so much??
@junonfraserst
What u mean? he did 15 nexus which is a fairly common greedy protoss opening. If toss gets away with it, toss will have an econ edge. Vs flash everybody has to play cut corners and play greedy (except dear didn't get away with it.) No need to freak out, just because you've never seen one of the most common PvT openings doesn't mean other people haven't.
@okay21088 Lolz. Terran is not powered, Flash is.
@junonfraserst because he knew flash was ahead after the bunker rush and would try to overpower him in the macro game. he made a calculated risk that the 3rd would kick in before flash's attack came.. it almost worked too.
@Andrewsafb71 because he set up his natural expo while destroying dear's?
@junonfraserst having his 12 nex taken down, it was pretty much the only way for him to come out with an advantage (or at least even) against flash... assuming flash played passively
@junonfraserst from dear's perspective, standard build has no chance--if flash didn't scout it fast enough, dear would start out with huge advantage obviously. It's just a gamble really, and I don't think he was wrong to do so.
This man...
I don't know whether to root for him or against him.
@Dreamer066680 Being the best player of all time, he is supposed to be very dedicated and talanted. Its his duty to make the game more entertaining and better in every way, than just beat opponents, especially knowing that we are in the end of the broodwar scene. This is how u show u put your heart in the things u do.
I cant show brighter example of that kind of player than the Emperor - Slayers_Boxer. Never been his fan but i admire how much he's done about the Esports about Broodwar.
@DemandTheMan
I think you forgot to add the part that he plays the perfect race. Terran mastered is the most overpowered race of all.
excellent game from flash. the only flaw in his play was at 11:41 =O
Flawless
with this tech at the beggining I think the protoss must make the vs zerg opening ( pilon,nexus,forge)
Dear's face at 5:36 is priceless. "FU-- ME"
awesome!!
@Andrewsafb71 Doesn't matter, if he ends up 2base off 1raxCC vs a failed 12nex into delayed 1base reavers, a 7 SCV loss or so can easily be regained. Not that he lost all the SCVs...
@Mashiki
He committed so many scv's though, don't know how he wasn't behind.
@junonfraserst Play bw more and you will see what I am talking about. Also do you think pros will use a build that loses to almost every build? Double nexus is a greedy build that can work if terran doesn't scout it early. Did you hear the commentators shouting when flash's scout scv heads toward south? They were shouting because if flash went all the way south and then to toss' base, it was too late to do a bunker rush.
@junonfraserst This is the problem with the youtube. You guys go on to criticize the player while you really have no idea what is going on. If my memory is correct Dear's proleague record was perfect this season(3 straight wins against terran, FBH, Sea, Light) before losing to Flash. Do you really think you know more bw than him?
I remember when the Dong was as confident as flash seems all the time.... GO JD! (on a flash vid hah)
@junonfraserst name a professional match in which terran bunker rushed after building a defensive bunker. You can't. (Although Ruby did a late crazy scv all in bunker rush once when he was in Airforce Ace, he is the probably the only one who did in recent bw scene because it has low probability of success and very risky)
이걸 무슨수로 이겨 갓영호 개오지네 ㄷㄷ
@junonfraserst With normal way, there is rare chance to win against Flash, that's why everyone tries to do something radical to take advantages. And, Flash knows that everyone thinks that when they play against Flash. So, Flash uses the mind of thinking.
@Dreamer066680 Seeing pure perfection in play is entertainment in itself. I empathise with your feelings of boredom, however, I think it is just because other players have not been able to meet the same standard as Flash and thus all we get to see are seemingly "boring" games where Flash rolls over people. Of course, Flash is only perfect in a frame of imperfection, and I anxiously await someone to step up to the plate and offer us a nail biting and epic game.
@junonfraserst honestly he responded perfectly... double nexus reaver zealot harass is the right response after being 1 base behind.
@ppshchik lol, dude BW is well balanced not 100% but I'm sure it's 98% balanced. Jangbi just recently won an OSL vs the two best Terrans in the World Flash and Fantasy. It's just that Flash knows the game so well with his timings, reads, micro etc. You play to win right? Pro players will do anything to win in any game. Terran isn't OP, it's just Flash is IMBA.
Flash = GOD OF STARCRAFT
boxer did bunker rushes but flash make expo bunker rushes :D
just listen to that music while looking at his face.
It's pretty depressing to watch the futile attempts of the humans against the terminator.
@Andrewsafb71 Because the normal laws of Starcraft do not apply to Flash.
教主威武!
15:23
그리고 얼마뒤 그라운드제로에서 시원하게 복수하는 무사....
@jinhk93 Think of it like football or basketball. People come to see their team WIN and their favorite players WIN. Esports is a profeesional sport. If you want just pure entertainment, you would watch the Harlem Globe Trotters or something.
A four zealot drop would be better :P
lmao @14.44 revaaaa, go reva go reva go reva go reva
so clinical. it's almost unfair.
flash played perfect but he was definitely beatable this game
dear used zealots terribly
freshman vs veteran
reaver bomb, for people with far too much resources :)
Protoss is such an underpowered race. I love how BW fanboys kept saying how fucking balanced BW is yet a Protoss has yet to win a golden mouse or be crowned Bonjwa. Glad I switched to SC2. SC2 Terran is also fucking OP but not as OP as 70 damage siege tanks that rewards turtling whores like Flash.
@junonfraserst because it is a good strategy if it doesn't get scouted early...
seriously you youtube noobs shouldn't talk about stuff if you don't know about it.
If double nexus doesn't get scouted early, 1-barrack-expo terran is forced to build bunker early in his base to prevent any dragoon harassment. If he builds defensive bunkers, it is already too late for terran to do any bunker rush (double nexus holds quite well against two fac rush too in fact)
why he drinks so much water? STIM PACK WATER ? LOL
1:57
@junonfraserst
Okay wow wow, sorry I got your point wrong, calm down a bit maybe?
@yurinoiado 教主的秘密!
Such a disgusting one-sided rape can usually only be witnessed by watching the filthiest of snuff porn.
GG
@Dreamer066680 Ok, so you don't call being a professional basketball player a job? Or being any kind of professional athlete? They all "perform on the stage in front of big audeince," but their main concern isn't just to be creative and entertain. Their job is to WIN, and fans love to see them WIN. Korean progamers have made Starcraft into a SCIENCE. They calculate everything down to near perfection, and it's tough to see creative plays. But you still see nukes, BM cc, pylon drawings, etc.
such a broken player, that Flash haha
@ymir233 for him. because if you cant beat him, join him.
Recently its really boring to watch Flash games, its not what the game should be, this is killing broodwar!
Here is why:
Being on the stage, progamers should make show to entertain people, especialy when flash so high above other players, he should do creative and entertaining stuff to help broodwar survive longer time!
Dont tell me he is not supposed to do that, because its not true.
Continue -->
@TheBlvision freshman vs god
U please take some english classes
out played, out smarted, out classed.
IN YOUR FACE!!!!!!! HA HA, hope you liked the game as much as i did, noob protoss.
LOL
I dont even have to look at the game to determine whos gunna win. If game is not over 20 mins most likely most likely terran wins. Protoss sucks
lol
@junonfraserst He's desperate anyway ,,,,
imba
boring..
@junonfraserst He was so behind when his nexus @ his nat died, he really needed to get lucky. ... Doesn't happen too much it was GG anyways